General Out-of-Character.   Posted by GM.Group: 0
GM
 GM, 230 posts
Wed 19 Jul 2017
at 18:10
Re: General Out-of-Character
Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh):
I don't know why but the idea of this is really fun to me :) it's probably the same reason I really liked bouncing about with my halfling rogue in your other game :)
I'm right there with you. I had been thinking for a while about ways in which the players might have to put themselves at the mercy of the winds and heights of Sharn and to face the risk of falling (even if that just shows up as a penalty, and not an actual risk of a fall). I might start a thread about it.

Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh):
My thought is that Tham has or wants to have a stash of these featherfall coins. Flight is something he aspires to both on board an airship and in real life. This is about as close as he can get until he picks up true flight or when he rolls a natural 20 on his powers :)
Because of the daily risks people would face in Sharn, it would make sense for these coins to be common and for people in risky occupations to have them (or some other safety option) available at all times, just as someone always on a ship would always have a life vest on or close to hand.

That said, part of what makes adventure stories fun is that people often operate without regard for sensible safety practices. We've all yelled at characters in movies who are doing stupid stuff that without which would result in a basically pointless movie. Or, even if the characters are smart and careful, events conspire to make a riskier course the only option.

So, this will be straightforward, but at times the tokens won't always be available.

Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh):
I was thinking that as a back up plan, as in, Tham's about to hit a bridge, he might activate his robe of contingency to bypass that. Hell that might even be worth the use of the daily item power just to do it :)
Sounds good.
GM
 GM, 233 posts
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 15:18
Re: General Out-of-Character
Tham and Albers: bear in mind that you are under the "death penalty" following your encounter with the sharks. That means a -1 to most d20 rolls, including skill checks.

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:19, Thu 20 July 2017.

Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh)
 player, 143 posts
 Half-elf
 Dragonmarked sorcerer.
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 19:37
Re: General Out-of-Character
Ah yes, and how long does that last?
GM
 GM, 234 posts
Thu 20 Jul 2017
at 20:01
Re: General Out-of-Character
In reply to Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh) (msg # 285):

The usual: three milestones. Typically that's six encounters, but I can grant milestones more often if you're really working hard or taking risks, or just doing cool stuff, like jumping off bridges.

Edit: Oops, the real answer is "as long as makes sense to you." I imposed it out of nowhere, to reflect your escape from "death" with the sharks, because I thought that made sense. Add to the details of the situation as you see fit. It's plausible that this shaman could be able to help you, or the Jorasco people (if they're friendly), though it's also plausible that they would exact a stiff price for such a service.

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:03, Thu 20 July 2017.

GM
 GM, 235 posts
Fri 21 Jul 2017
at 14:37
Re: General Out-of-Character
Erix and Albers, please take an action related to the skill challenge. If you're short on time, let me know what you plan to do, and I can roll it and write it up.
Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh)
 player, 144 posts
 Half-elf
 Dragonmarked sorcerer.
Fri 21 Jul 2017
at 17:27
Re: General Out-of-Character
Erix, Albers, you still there? I know I was the quiet one for a little while there, so if somethings up, no worries, just want to make sure everyone's in it to win it :)

Now I'm all insecure that my attempt at jumping off a skybridge wasn't the way to go.

I've been reading the original Eberron Novel and am loving all the "Lift Encounters"
GM
 GM, 236 posts
Fri 21 Jul 2017
at 17:31
Re: General Out-of-Character
In reply to Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh) (msg # 288):

It think it's a very Eberron/Sharn thing to do. It's what Indiana Jones would do. Now that I think about it, it's almost exactly like his idea of jumping out of a plane using an inflatable raft to slow the fall of three people. It's actually a better idea than that.

I just picked up the first Eberron novel, but I haven't had a chance to read much of it yet. So far, Sharn seems more crowded there than in this game, but that's okay.
Erix Helmworth (Godzfirefly)
 player, 12 posts
Tue 25 Jul 2017
at 03:26
Re: General Out-of-Character
In reply to Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh) (msg # 288):

I am still here.  I had a massively busy weekend, and this game was the unfortunate victim of that weekend.  Mostly because (though my character is technically built) I still needed to get my character info onto a character sheet that I can use for gameplay reference.  XD

I'll be fixing that issue tonight and hopefully get a post up in the next hour or so.

This message was last edited by the player at 03:27, Tue 25 July 2017.

GM
 GM, 237 posts
Fri 28 Jul 2017
at 05:54
Re: General Out-of-Character
We'll proceed without Albers for now. The player, as I understand it, is very busy at the moment.
Albers Josef (jacktannery)
 player, 91 posts
 Tiefling
 Paladin, revolutionary.
Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 17:32
Re: General Out-of-Character
Yes I am. Frustratingly, I wouldn't be if the other people in my life were a bit less random. The latest issues are to do with funerals and complicated family stuff (boyfriend's daughter from prior relationship) and how to deal with it. You'd think in 2017 people would just deal with it in a simple way. But in the end it turned into a total clusterfcku.

I will try and continue this game as best I can. I would quit if I thought I was slowing you guys down, but since we only have 3 players, me quitting won't help so I'll keep going. It's going to be like this from me end for a while longer I fear, until I can get things to settle down a bit.

Basically, what I'm starting to realise, is that RPOL and D&D are much easier when you're single.
Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh)
 player, 146 posts
 Half-elf
 Dragonmarked sorcerer.
Mon 31 Jul 2017
at 18:12
Re: General Out-of-Character
Hahaha! That's a very true statement.

I don't want to see you quit, but I do selfishly hope your frustrations come to an end soon.

Nice correction to my botched roll :)
Erix Helmworth (Godzfirefly)
 player, 15 posts
Thu 3 Aug 2017
at 06:06
Re: General Out-of-Character
Perception or Acrobatics.  Ouch.  I don't suppose you'd let me Streetwise to ask people on the bridge for help as I fall?  lol
GM
 GM, 240 posts
Thu 3 Aug 2017
at 06:12
Re: General Out-of-Character
In reply to Erix Helmworth (Godzfirefly) (msg # 294):

If that works for you, it's fine for me. The area you're in is not one of the well-traveled "points of light" in Sharn and so you see few people other than yourselves, and the Jorasco checkpoints. But you never know where someone might be sleeping and sure enough there's a crouched form in the shadow of a burned out light pole. Maybe they'll lend a hand or equivalent limb.

But I'd like to suggest that it's okay to lose here. There's not much riding on your roll, so it's safe to try it and see what happens.
Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh)
 player, 148 posts
 Half-elf
 Dragonmarked sorcerer.
Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 03:11
Re: General Out-of-Character
What is the DC for the Perception/Athletics check?
GM
 GM, 242 posts
Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 11:52
Re: General Out-of-Character
In reply to Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh) (msg # 296):

14 is the standard DC, which I could have been more clear about.

The challenge is complete and I'll move us along shortly.
Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh)
 player, 149 posts
 Half-elf
 Dragonmarked sorcerer.
Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 12:31
Re: General Out-of-Character
No problem! So I don't need to roll?
Erix Helmworth (Godzfirefly)
 player, 17 posts
Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 13:44
Re: General Out-of-Character
Weird thing I just learned about my own psychology...in my irl games in the past, I've never had an issue with pitching alternative skills that I might use during skill challenges.  But, the second the GM suggested two per round, my brain shut down to even the possibility of using others...until the exact moment the skill challenge was declared ended.  After that, I was like...Oh! So many options!

Like, I could have tried using Diplomacy to call for help during that tumble and get one of my allies to come to my aid.  I could have using Insight to predict my allies' paths and try to direct myself to them.  I could have tried using Streetwise to reflect my inherent familiarity with the streets of Sharn and instinctively reacted rather than trying to 'think' it through.

Even if those uses had triggered a higher DC, the GM would probably have accepted at least one of those options that better fit Erix's personality than the options I actually tried!  Failure may even have still been assured, but at least Erix would have acted more in character.  I need to prod myself harder to think up appropriate skill alternatives, next time...I'm a better player than I just let myself be.
GM
 GM, 243 posts
Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 14:07
Re: General Out-of-Character
In reply to Erix Helmworth (Godzfirefly) (msg # 299):

Yes, you can use whatever skill you like. You can even pick your own DCs. My preference would be that you add something to the situation rather than revising it, or the rules, but I'm not going to argue (and will make every effort to support you). I want people to have fun and move the game along. I'm not really watching for things to be done "in character." Pretty much anything can be justified as in character, at least when it comes to skill checks.

I'm afraid I don't see what's "out of character" about a Perception check. Anyone falling might grab for a handhold they see (or think they see). The Perception check could also represent calling out to someone you see who (looks like they) could help, or to act on what (it looks like) one's or one's allies trajectory is. I mention this because the way you're using those other skills is already something of a reinterpretation of their uses, so one could also reinterpet Perception to a similar degree.

This situation, and in fact this whole game, is not intended to be about rules mastery and I really, really don't want anyone to feel the least bit bad about the failure of this skill challenge. It really, really, doesn't matter, it just let us hand over the resolution of a daring action to the dice. It ended in a cool way, and gives us a lot to work with.

Also, I wanted to mention/remind that skill checks (especially those in skill challenges) should, whenever possible, be framed in terms of taking an action that changes the situation. I can do a better job of thinking in those terms too. So, a Perception check, for instance, wouldn't be just about looking around and either seeing or not seeing something, it would be about acting on something one thinks they perceive, and then rolling to determine whether the action was appropriate and successful and either inappropriate or appropriate but unsuccessful. Otherwise, (like standing around and thinking, when making a knowledge check) no action is really being taken, and it's tricky to see how a skill challenge improves or gets worse without action being taken.
GM
 GM, 245 posts
Thu 10 Aug 2017
at 22:00
Re: General Out-of-Character
Nothing specific called for yet. The naga isn't attacking you. It seems curious.
GM
 GM, 247 posts
Fri 11 Aug 2017
at 17:37
Re: General Out-of-Character
Say and do what you like here. Indicate whether it comes after she queries you, or after the door opens. There shouldn't be any need to make skill checks. This is a good opportunity for players to establish things directly, if they feel no inclined, but there's no pressure. You can also offer to do something other than deal with the Jorascos.
GM
 GM, 248 posts
Tue 15 Aug 2017
at 15:30
Re: General Out-of-Character
I've just been accepted to a graduate certificate program, which is going to eat up a lot of my time, starting in September.

Given that and the fact that this game has slowed considerably, I am going to put it on indefinite hold. If we want to make one last push, I'd be interested in running one final encounter of some kind, whether it has bearing on the current situation or not. Please let me know what you think.
Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh)
 player, 150 posts
 Half-elf
 Dragonmarked sorcerer.
Tue 15 Aug 2017
at 16:10
Re: General Out-of-Character
Sorry, work has been a real challenge for me lately, I'd love to keep going, even if it's just for one final encounter!
GM
 GM, 249 posts
Tue 15 Aug 2017
at 16:43
Re: General Out-of-Character
In reply to Tham d'Lyrandar (jkeogh) (msg # 304):

No, problem. My work is about to change too. I just hope it allows me time for classes.
Albers Josef (jacktannery)
 player, 94 posts
 Tiefling
 Paladin, revolutionary.
Mon 21 Aug 2017
at 14:50
Re: General Out-of-Character
Hey GM - I know the feeling! Congratulations on your place!

I've really enjoyed your GMing style and your approach to running this game. I thought it was really interesting, and fun. It's a real shame I've been too busy to engage as much as I would have liked, but I still got a lot out of it. I'd love to keep in contact with you and hopefully we could play together in the future when time is more available.

Also a pleasure playing with you jkeogh and Godfirefly.
GM
 GM, 250 posts
Mon 21 Aug 2017
at 16:35
Re: General Out-of-Character
Albers Josef (jacktannery):
Hey GM - I know the feeling! Congratulations on your place!

I've really enjoyed your GMing style and your approach to running this game. I thought it was really interesting, and fun. It's a real shame I've been too busy to engage as much as I would have liked, but I still got a lot out of it. I'd love to keep in contact with you and hopefully we could play together in the future when time is more available.

Also a pleasure playing with you jkeogh and Godfirefly.
Thanks and seconded. I'm unlikely to completely lose the roleplaying bug anytime soon, and I plan to stay on as a player in some currently running games. Feel free to drop me a message whenever.

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