Pathfinder Rules Discussion.   Posted by League Historian.Group: 0
Celice
 Pathfinder, 40 posts
Wed 11 Jul 2018
at 02:08
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
I have a couple pms that haven't been replied to if I could get those covered?
League Historian
 GM, 102 posts
 Chronicler of the
 League Of Pathfinders
Wed 11 Jul 2018
at 02:15
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
One of the c0-GM's will jump on that for you as soon as they get a chance, as I have handed over all mechanics rulings to them.
Tora
 Pathfinder, 43 posts
 Artificial Half-Elf
 Magitechnician
Wed 11 Jul 2018
at 12:34
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Esoteric question. Can light (the cantrip) provide light in different colors?
League Justicar
 GM, 28 posts
Wed 11 Jul 2018
at 12:52
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
RAW: No
RAI: Still probably no
You are the first person who has ever asked that question in all my 28+ years of gaming. I vote yes! It makes it a much cooler cantrip and really doesn't effect anything mechanically.
Wyrzard
 Pathfinder, 1 post
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 00:21
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
If the GM is feeling generous, he could simply dust up the rules on creating original spells and award a colored light cantrip (which being unique would be much more valuable than simply upgrading light) :) .



Two questions of my own:
1) I can find nothing that forbids applying a familiar archetype to an improved familiar. However, since improved familiar don't get the 'speak with animals of their kind' ability, any archetype that tries to replace it would be immediately disqualified. Am I correct ? (I so want to apply Valet Familiar to a clockwork familiar, but it looks like it will not be...)

2) Speaking off clockwork familiars, the entry on PFSRD says they can be pretty much any shape the creator wish, so if I take the Improved Familiar feat and select a clockwork familiar I get to choose what it looks like ? Even though I can't have actually created it since I can't possibly meet the requirements for that.
Valonia
 Pathfinder, 5 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 03:54
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
5e Light Cantrip does any color you want, not sure why the PF or 3.5 version couldn't!
League Historian
 GM, 160 posts
 Chronicler of the
 League Of Pathfinders
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 07:26
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Colored lights is perfectly okay!

Wyrzard, I have not looked into this yet, as I have limited time and a lot to go over sheet wise etc (not complaining in the least bit!), so I am going to tentatively say you can to both of your questions. Please be willing to work with me if in the future it becomes an issue and I have to go back on my ruling.

If anyone else has any thoughts or input, go ahead and chip in.

For our new players knowledge, my experience with pathfinder is limited. I understand the mechanics and how the game works, I'm mostly comfortable GMing, but Pathfinder is a vast and complex system without gestalt "everything allowed", so there is a lot for me to still learn and study up on. I am doing my best to keep things balanced while allowing you guys to play the characters you don't normally get to play, and compromising when I have to say no.
Ghenyfhar
 Pathfinder, 4 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 13:30
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
How does gestalt and prestige classes go together?

Does it take up one of the two class slots, so instead of being Class A 10 / Class B 10, it would then go to Class A 11 / Class B 10 Prestige 1?

It isn't something that will come up during creation, and may never happen for me, but it's more for a long term possibility?
Celice
 Pathfinder, 58 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 15:04
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Yes that is how it works from what I understand.
Jeren
 Pathfinder, 3 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 15:09
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Officially (in 3.5) it was that you were only allowed to progress one prestige class at a time.  I've seen people run games with a few different options:

1) No prestige classes at all (ie. you're already gestalt, no further specialization allowed)

2) Only one prestige class advanced per level (ie. at least one side must always be a basic class)

3) Both sides can advance a prestige class, but no dual advance prestige classes.

4) Both sides can do prestige classes at the same time, but dual advancing prestige classes take up both sides and have lost progression filled in (ie. the 3.5 ultimate magus would go Sorcerer 3/nada 10| Wizard 3/Ultimate magus 10, but would advance each class's spellcasting at every level)
Celice
 Pathfinder, 59 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 15:39
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
I personally don't see the point in restricting them.  Gestalt is already pretty powerful.  Prestiege classes in pf aren't all that powerful.
Valonia
 Pathfinder, 6 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 15:49
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
In reply to Celice (msg # 248):

So long as you're not doing a dual-progression spellcasting PrC, probably true.

With Gestalt the issues don't come from doing 2 PrC's at a time... it usually comes when you're doing some combinations of PrC's at the same time. I've seen gestalt games with two PrC progression be ok, and some where it's proved problematic for the GMs. Though I guess that may be more of an issue with 3.5 than PF now that I think about it.

Still, I wouldn't bend on the dual-caster progression PrC's as a DM! No and No! :)
Lialda Nomake
 Pathfinder, 47 posts
 Sexy Arcane Caster
 5'1" 99lbs
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 16:19
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
I prestige classed sorcerer/dragon disciple and my second class is Magus. But if I was cleric/wizard prestiging into Mystic Theurge, my second class would have to be something that doesn't effect my prestige. You can't stack abilities, so if your prestige gives you spells +1 level, you can't continue your other class on the opposite side. Did that convoluted mess make sense?
Celice
 Pathfinder, 60 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 16:28
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Kinda.

After looking through all the PF accepted PrCs I only found one that I even find vaguely interesting.  Which lead me to a question.

If I have a class ability that acts as dodge (but is actually better than the feat) does that count as having the feat for the purposes of a PrC?
Lialda Nomake
 Pathfinder, 48 posts
 Sexy Arcane Caster
 5'1" 99lbs
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 16:36
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
In reply to Celice (msg # 251):

Not unless it specifically says (Though LU could rule differently). Usually it will say "this counts as xxc for purposes of frats and class abilities."
Celice
 Pathfinder, 61 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 17:13
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
There should be a juggling thrown weapon prestige class....:)
Wyrzard
 Pathfinder, 3 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 17:16
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
There's a juggler bard archetype :)
Kass
 Pathfinder, 50 posts
 Silver Leaf HP 70/70
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 19:42
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
I find that Horizon Walker as PrC for rogue is awfully easy to abuse. Imagine having Terrain Mastery of Planar terrains. Void creatures whose habitat is another plane might have someone doing +10 hit and damage no matter their particular subtype.
Celice
 Pathfinder, 62 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 20:17
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Have to be 10th level horizon walker for that though.  Which means 16th level in total, they are supposed to be tough....lol

What plane are the Void Spawned from anyway?

This message was last edited by the player at 21:49, Thu 28 Mar 2019.

Neva Trevail
 Pathfinder, 58 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 21:47
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
That's probably for us to find out. :)
Celice
 Pathfinder, 64 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 21:59
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
So another question (man this is an exciting game so far).

Can we make up a pathfinder badge for the survivors of the Void War?
Neva Trevail
 Pathfinder, 59 posts
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 22:18
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Suggesting the war is over... ^^
League Historian
 GM, 161 posts
 Chronicler of the
 League Of Pathfinders
Thu 28 Mar 2019
at 22:29
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
That is to be discovered!

I actually plan to work on the badges, and maybe incorporate medals as well. But I will keep this in mind.

And the game will stay exciting, rpol has way to much attrition for us to get caught up in bland gameplay, even if it means I have to railroad you guys occasionally.
Celice
 Pathfinder, 70 posts
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 19:15
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
How many points are cohorts built with?
Neva Trevail
 Pathfinder, 65 posts
Fri 29 Mar 2019
at 23:52
Re: Pathfinder Rules Discussion
Normally, NPC stats.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/class...on-player-characters