tibiotarsus
 member, 15 posts
Wed 14 Nov 2018
at 22:52
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Ahoy glorious leaders!

Thank you for keeping us updated, even if I only just found this thread (I'm smart, hdurr).

Some related questions: where will it be announced or obvious when portraits are going again, and/or if the Gallery Updates thread over at Portrait Posse is defunct, is there a way to tell whether a portrait has been rejected or simply put in an unexpected place?

Thank you!
Netta
 member, 34 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 00:03
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May we have an update? :)
Shannara
 moderator, 3808 posts
 Keep calm, drink more
 COFFEE!!!!
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 00:29
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The issue is one that will need to be addressed by jase.

I'm sure he'll let us know when things are working again.
ladysharlyne
 member, 2413 posts
 you have to risk the
 dark to see the light
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 19:03
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Just want to thank you all behind the gallery and am sure it will be fixed in good time but just to say that you all are appreciated xx
LordAshes
 member, 20 posts
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 18:45
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Why not provide an option to use third party links hosted on third party sites for portraits. That way there is no need to maintain a gallery but users can still get the benefit of custom portraits.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15695 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 19:09
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Because we have, on numerous occasions, alreay ruled out such an option.

Having a gallery provides us with control over the quality and content of the portraits, to name just two reasons.

The FAQS:
Why can't I link to an image elsewhere?

Five reasons;

    Quality control, we make sure the size is the same, the image is as small (in size) as possible without compromising quality, the photo/drawing area are as similar as possible.

    Avoiding error/cross boxes (when an image no longer exists), la .

    Avoiding inline linking (a.k.a hotlinking, direct linking, offsite image grabs) issues.

    Avoiding "bandwidth exceeded" errors/images.

    Completely eliminates the possibility of a member using an inappropriate image.
        /help/?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq

This message was last edited by the user at 19:12, Sun 10 Feb.

evileeyore
 member, 156 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Sat 9 Mar 2019
at 23:00
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Not sure it really matters but portrait mms244 is not in fact a male soldier... it's Christina Cox from the tv show Combat Hospital.
callen
 member, 45 posts
Mon 11 Mar 2019
at 21:20
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In reply to evileeyore (msg # 143):

It's happened before. I believe the policy is to just leave them because dealing with the gap is more troublesome than having a misplace picture.
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1454 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 08:13
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Wouldn't it be easier to simply have tags and thus each page list by tag rather than manually organizing them? That way you could easily fix an issue like this as well as making the search mechanisms more flexible and expandable.
tibiotarsus
 member, 34 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 08:55
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They're trying to implement tags, but since the system wasn't set up like that it's just a few volunteers tagging a handful of portraits whenever and the search function is still pretty useless as yet. If you want to find portraits it's best to trawl everything that might possibly be related - and some that aren't! By the 'we put it where users suggest' thing I now understand how one of the images I submitted got incredibly misplaced (should have been mh19##, wound up in fmc##), since I'd been considering sending one for another game and must have forgotten to change the header.

I suspect that's what's happened when you get obviously female people in the male galleries and vice versa. Things would go faster with more volunteers, but vetting them for that level of power takes time...time that could be spent improving the tag system...so...
callen
 member, 46 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 14:03
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, they're hosted in different places. So it's not quite so simple as that since a search of such tags would stay within a single site.
praguepride
 member, 1374 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 23:28
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As someone who has tagged literally hundreds of portraits I'd say try the tags first. Don't get too specific but gender + race is a good start, or gender + hair color.

There are a LOT of portraits scattered around so you'll probably get a couple of pages to work with at least.

I've found that it's about a 40/60 spread about whether the tags have what I'm looking for.

The key is gender + one other item and go from there.
tibiotarsus
 member, 47 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 09:11
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Any updates on this issue? A background character in my long game has become something of an icon, but there isn't anything close to a reindeer to illustrate him. Nor any old Japanese ladies to sort-of pass off as native Siberian...
praguepride
 member, 1435 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 18:51
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Honestly at this point I often don't even bother with portraits for NPCs and just use their descriptions to post cool images found across the web.
tibiotarsus
 member, 48 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 20:40
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Cool if that works for you! Someone might want to have an older Asiatic/Native lady (or reindeer) PC someday, though, and the present crop of portraits is rather scanty in several demographics. It would be nice to have an idea when it might be fixed, or what could be done to help it be fixed, so I thought I'd mention it while this thread was still on the first page.
RosstoFalstaff
 member, 168 posts
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 23:17
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In reply to tibiotarsus (msg # 151):

Well as has been said before by the mods and the people who maintained the galleries, if you see a lack of diversity it's partially because people weren't adding those to the gallery. At this point we can only hope to remedy that once someone takes the project on again
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 89 posts
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 23:43
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We've made a few 100x100 portraits for NPCs that needed things that weren't available in the current gallery, and just right-align them into every post those characters make. It's almost as good as having an actual portrait, as long as you have somewhere to host the image.

I know it's not ideal, tibiotarsus, but it might work for what you need in the time being.
tibiotarsus
 member, 49 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 08:33
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That is a very good stopgap, though unfortunately not one that works with my brain (I view the site with portraits off because a static best-fit image doesn't fit with my highly visual imagination and is irritating to me, but I have a player with hypophantasia - where you don't really "see" pictures when you read, making a lack of portraits a hindrance to distinguishing NPCs if anyone shares a voice colour). Also, as RosstoFalstaff mentions, if we can't upload new persons or creatures then it discourages diversity through difficulty of access, which lowers the quality of the gaming environment in general. I'm not going to make a profile for my half-Evenki PC's mother until there's a prospect of her getting her own picture, but it makes me sad that his father's had one for a long time now, as though he's less of a background NPC/more important.

In short: I really was posting in hopes of an update on what steps are being taken to fix this when, e.g. "we need to get the servers stable and will look at this after that in a few months, maybe remind us", rather than advice - even good advice - on what to do while it's not fixed.
jase
 admin, 3623 posts
 Cogito, ergo procuro.
 Carpe stultus!
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 09:42
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The uploading and tagging operations should now be operational for the portrait team so I believe they can resume operations.  Give them a little while to get back into the swing of things but hopefully we can resume some semblance of normalcy.

FYI we've currently got about 5,410 portraits tagged out of the 13,950.
callen
 member, 47 posts
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 14:53
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In reply to jase (msg # 155):

Thank you all so much for your efforts. You're all awesome!
tibiotarsus
 member, 50 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 21:29
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Awesome! Thank you so much, that's great!
Warrax
 subscriber, 222 posts
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 19:43
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Further to jase's remarks, yes, the portrait team is now back in business thanks to jase's efforts. We're working to deal with some backlog and in the (hopefully) reasonably near future, portrait submissions should be open once again.
Ymdar
 member, 2 posts
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 19:51
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I still don't know how to submit pictures and the wiki isn't really clear on naming convention in my opinion.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15748 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 19:57
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In reply to Ymdar (msg # 159):

Instructions for submitting portraits can be found here: /help/?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq

As for naming conventions... that is something only the portrait editors need to be concerned with, as they are the ones who attach names to the images.
Visceri22
 member, 470 posts
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 22:58
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In reply to Warrax (msg # 158):

I know that you and the rest of the team had a lot to see to when you first took on the job before things broke down a bit, and likely were more focused on getting the work done above all else, but I was curious if you had any plans on announcing portrait updates this time around at some point? Maybe not as in-depth as Shannara used to with breakdowns of each category, but even something akin to "# of portraits uploaded to gallery" in this thread or some other notification that would give us cause to check if ours had been added.