Shannara
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Mon 30 Oct 2017
at 22:07
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Warrax:
Thanks to the efforts of several volunteers and continued support from the moderators and jase, we are happy to announce that RPOL prtrait submissions are resuming!

The Portrait team will be taking submissions over the first two weeks of each month. If your submission comes in after that, we'll get to it in the next month's update. We will be accepting one portrait per user each update at this time.

Things to Think About When Submitting

  • Send your image to
  • When all is said and done in the editing department, submissions are reduced to 100 pixels high by 100 pixels wide (100x100) and less than 5 kilobytes in size.  However, in the game threads, portraits in use are shrunk to 50x50 for space considerations.  To view the portrait in its full size, click on it.  (RPOL keeps no larger images.)
  • Submissions must be 100x100 pixels or greater (bigger than approximately 1 inch/3 cm square on your computer screen).  Smaller sizes usually produce poor quality, and will almost certainly be rejected.  The larger the original you submit (within reason), the better.
  • Jpg's are preferred, but .bmp, .gif, .img, .kdc, .mac, .msp, .pcd, .pct, .pcx, .psd, .psp, & .tif   formats are acceptable.
  • Please send the image file by itself, without inserting it into a .pdf (Acrobat) or other unnecessary format (Word documents, etc.).  Zipped files are acceptable provided they're in a standard format that our software can un-compress.
  • Sending the file as an attachment is preferred, but links and zips are acceptable.
  • No names on the image unless it's the artist's mark.  Copyrighted photos will not be accepted, so if you see © on a photo, or the word copyright, do not, I repeat, do not send it in.  Nothing Copyrighted/Registered/Trademarked will be accepted without the artist's express permission, and we must have a copy of the permission emailed along with the submission.</ul>
  • Likewise, if it comes to our attention that the portrait is the work of an artist that has specifically asked that their works not be used on other sites (Disney, for example), it will be removed from the gallery.
  • If we are contacted by the artist or their authorized representative regarding removal of an image, the portrait will be removed immediately.
  • Images may be rejected if they are too small, too blurry to make out the details, poor quality, have words on the image, are deemed a duplicate or extremely similar to an existing portrait, or are just plain bad.  "Duplicate" is a judgment call - there is not enough room for every actor with every mood in every costume for every role they ever played, nor every model in existence.  All things equal, pictures with "character" will be given consideration over "just another face".


Quality and the 'Final Product:'

  • The final image will be cropped square - tall or wide portraits may not work well when cropped.  If your image is not square, the larger the original (within reason), the better chance the image can be used upon alteration.
  • If you submit a full-body shot, it will be cropped more tightly.  Faces tend to be preferred over full body as they hold up to 50x50 viewing resolution better.
  • If the file is less than 5k, it may not retain the quality needed once sized and cropped.
  • Images must be clear - contrast, detail, quality, color, focus, artistic ability, and overall final product all will be taken into consideration for acceptance.
  • Look through the recent submissions (later pages in any category) for examples of what quality is generally accepted.


Please contact Warrax via rmail for any questions/concerns regarding portraits and/or portrait submissions.

This message was last updated by the user at 19:04, Wed 07 Nov 2018.

Gaffer
 member, 1503 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Mon 30 Oct 2017
at 23:48
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Good news! Thanks, everyone.
Visceri22
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Tue 31 Oct 2017
at 00:08
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It's a Halloween miracle! :D
Rockwolf66
 member, 32 posts
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 03:45
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So how long till we can see and use the new portraits?
The Stray
 member, 103 posts
 When the Cat's a Stray
 the Mice will Pray
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 04:09
Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
With submissions resuming, will the Portrait Posse board be renamed?
Warrax
 member, 179 posts
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 14:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Rockwolf66:
So how long till we can see and use the new portraits?


There are over 120 new portraits already posted from our backlog. We'll be taking in new submissions until and including the 14th of the month, then we'll focus on those and you'll see them no later than the end of the month. That's going to be our standard cycle going forward.

The Stray:
With submissions resuming, will the Portrait Posse board be renamed?


Haven't really talked about it yet, to be honest.
Mrs.Coe
 member, 59 posts
 Imaginative Writer
 Wife
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 14:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax,

Thank you for taking over what is bound to be a huge job. It is greatly appreciated.
Warrax
 member, 180 posts
Thu 2 Nov 2017
at 15:02
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Mrs.Coe:
Warrax,

Thank you for taking over what is bound to be a huge job. It is greatly appreciated.


Thanks, but it's not just me! Grimmond and Morgan Coldsoul need some love too! That's our team. And like I said in the announcement, we got some big help from Shannara and jase in order to make this possible.

Anyway, thanks!
Grimmond
 member, 467 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Fri 3 Nov 2017
at 06:45
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax got the major players, but there actually are ten players in the Posse, though the three of us stuck it out and did the lions share of the work. Some members were just there for moral support or to participate in the months long debate. As was said, it was a total group effort.
Mrs.Coe
 member, 60 posts
 Imaginative Writer
 Wife
Sat 4 Nov 2017
at 04:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I certainly didn't mean to slight anyone. Many thanks to the whole team that are making it possible. :)
Warrax
 member, 181 posts
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 12:40
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Mrs.Coe:
I certainly didn't mean to slight anyone. Many thanks to the whole team that are making it possible. :)


Rock on.

Hopefully, everyone is cool with bearing with us for a bit while we get ourselves underway. We got our first batch out and now have a couple dozen more to work with already. It's November 8th, so there's about a week left before we stop taking submissions this month, so we'll see what comes in then and how we handle everything! Been going well so far, and we're glad to have the tool back up and running.
Visceri22
 member, 452 posts
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 18:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax & Team,

Do you have plans to include breakdowns of how many are added to what categories as Shannara used to, or did you have other thoughts in mind on how to handle things?
Warrax
 member, 182 posts
Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 21:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It's not on the list yet, because we're just trying to make sure we can get the basic job done, but it's something we will be discussing down the line, yes. Information is good :D
Visceri22
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Wed 8 Nov 2017
at 22:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Good to know! Looking forward to getting to submit again!
evileeyore
 member, 46 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 06:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
To whom do we report when we find some that seem to be broken?

ffw191
ffr246
fmc1065
Warrax
 member, 187 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 11:23
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Here. I will look into those. Do they preview fine in the gallery and then not work in game somehow?
IkeEsq
 member, 13 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 12:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
They are broken in the gallery.
Warrax
 member, 188 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 12:30
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Well, that's not ideal. I'll look into it, thanks for letting me know.
Warrax
 member, 189 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Have a look now, I believe the problem has been solved.
IkeEsq
 member, 14 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:36
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
They look good now!

Is there going to be a posting listing new portraits when they come out?  I seem to recall that happening in the past but it has been a while since I submitted a portrait.  Also, when submitting, should we put our RPoL ID in the message?  There was talk of one submission per UserID but I did not identify myself in my own submission.

Thanks again!
Warrax
 member, 190 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 15:42
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Glad they are working again!

Right at the moment, we aren't planning to put out a list of posted portraits, no. We may, down the line, but we're doing barebones atm to just roll everything out and get it back up and running.

You can put your RPOL ID in the message. We're also tracking e-mail addresses.
evileeyore
 member, 47 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:00
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
You can put your RPOL ID in the message. We're also tracking e-mail addresses.

oh good to know.  I forgot my ID with the submission I just made.
Warrax
 member, 191 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Good that you made it; today is the last day for November submissions :D
evileeyore
 member, 48 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
Good that you made it; today is the last day for November submissions :D

Which is why I spent several hours last night with paint editing the damn thing to get it "just right".  Pixel by bloody pixel.

"MS Paint?" you ask incredulously.  Why yes, I'm a masochist.  And broke.  And the more complicated photo editing software confuses my simple caveman brain.
Warrax
 member, 192 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 17:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So, just to reiterate, we edit the images. We downsize them to 100x100 and shrink the file size ourselves. You need to provide an image 100x100, or ideally larger, to preserve the image. I hope that wasn't what you were doing.

:)
evileeyore
 member, 49 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 18:14
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Warrax:
So, just to reiterate, we edit the images. We downsize them to 100x100 and shrink the file size ourselves. You need to provide an image 100x100, or ideally larger, to preserve the image. I hope that wasn't what you were doing.

:)

No.  Color changes and such.

It was a bout 187x187 pixels originally and I left it at that (I couldn't find a bigger/better version or I'd have used it).
Warrax
 member, 193 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 19:05
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
evileeyore:
No.  Color changes and such.

It was a bout 187x187 pixels originally and I left it at that (I couldn't find a bigger/better version or I'd have used it).


Oh good! I was worried :)
Visceri22
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Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Two questions:

1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?

2. You may not be mentioning which portraits you update, but will you be announcing when a month's chunk of portraits has finished being rolled out so we know when to look for them?
Warrax
 member, 194 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:45
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
Two questions:

1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?


It's ideal if they're included.

quote:
2. You may not be mentioning which portraits you update, but will you be announcing when a month's chunk of portraits has finished being rolled out so we know when to look for them?


We're always aiming for the first of the month. Naturally, we'll post something if we're going to be delayed, but 2 weeks ought to be enough for us to get everything done up most of the time.

That said, this is our first official month. We will be evaluating our process and taking feedback through it, and the subsequent cycle periods. We can make choices about what we are going to do from that going forward. Right now, we're just focused on getting it up and running, and then we'll be looking for how much work it actually gives us, and what we can add on thereafter, you know?
IkeEsq
 member, 15 posts
Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 22:58
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Would it make your lives easier if submissions included relevant category, features, and keywords?  E.g. name of subject, hair color, gender, period, class, etc.
Visceri22
 member, 458 posts
 This is a rather amusing
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Tue 14 Nov 2017
at 23:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Warrax (msg # 29):

Sorry to bombard you with questions about it heh. Just glad it's up and running again. I'm sure whatever the circumstances it will be great.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 244 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:10
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
1. I know you said you're tracking emails for submissions, but are RPOL IDs mandatory as well, or just an optional tidbit if we feel like it?

RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected. This is to make sure that no one submits more than one portrait per cycle, since the one-per-person rule is still in effect (in case that wasn't clearly stated earlier in this thread).
evileeyore
 member, 51 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:28
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected.

OH NO!

I thought the "no names except artist name"  was...  oh no.


Yeah, now I see that that's on "the image".
Visceri22
 member, 459 posts
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Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
RPoL usernames in your submission email are mandatory; submissions without a username will be rejected.


Considering that this is the first time we've heard anything of this new requirement, will that be going in to effect in an official capacity for the December submissions then? I know that for my own I hadn't known that this was a thing we were being asked to do now until long after I made my submission.
Warrax
 member, 195 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:47
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We arent gonna hardline it for stuff already in but come December, tis the policy.
Visceri22
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Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 01:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Warrax (msg # 35):

Sounds good to me!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 245 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 02:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It isn't a new requirement; including a username has always been the rule. You can find the portrait policies under FAQs/General RPoL Information/Portraits FAQ (/help/content.cgi?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq). In case the link doesn't work, it's in the top right corner of every screen, for those who might not know.

We're not really changing anything significant about those rules and guidelines, so just about everything there should be as reliable now as it ever was. Warrax and Grimmond can correct me if I'm mistaken, but overall I believe the only noteworthy alteration we're making is that we're only accepting submissions for the first two weeks of every month, rather than all month long. So, weeks 1 and 2 are for submissions, and weeks 3/4 will be us processing them in order to have them uploaded by the 1st of the next month.

I think everything else is pretty much the same, so new and veteran users can look to the FAQ as a solid path to follow. My opinion is, if it's been good enough for Shannara, then who are we to complain?

IkeEsq:
Would it make your lives easier if submissions included relevant category, features, and keywords?  E.g. name of subject, hair color, gender, period, class, etc.

You can include suggestions for those things if you'd like to, but as it's been in the past, we can't guarantee they'll get followed/used exactly. However, I personally think they can be helpful and I've sometimes done it myself, with my submissions, so go for it!

This message was last edited by the user at 02:12, Wed 15 Nov 2017.

Gaffer
 member, 1508 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 12:20
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
So, weeks 1 and 2 are for submissions, and weeks 3/4 will be us processing them in order to have them uploaded by the 1st of the next month.

What will happen to submissions made during weeks 3 and 4? I'm certain you will get them. Will they carry forward to weeks 1 and 2 or be discarded?
Warrax
 member, 196 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 12:25
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Gaffer:
What will happen to submissions made during weeks 3 and 4? I'm certain you will get them. Will they carry forward to weeks 1 and 2 or be discarded?


Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.
evileeyore
 member, 53 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 14:59
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
It isn't a new requirement; including a username has always been the rule. You can find the portrait policies under FAQs/General RPoL Information/Portraits FAQ (/help/content.cgi?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq).

So... if your email addy and your user name are the same... does that count?

If not you might want to clarify where the user name must be in the submission (subject or body).


Warrax:
Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.

That should definitely be added to the FAQ.  Or at least be included in the update post.

This message was last edited by the user at 15:02, Wed 15 Nov 2017.

Warrax
 member, 197 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:16
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
As far as submissions are concerned, your RPOL user ID is the name on the top left corner of the screen when you log in. We're looking for that, because we'll already have your email address anyway.

Meantime, subject or body is immaterial to us. As long as the username is there somewhere in the email, we're good. We don't need to be super particular about it.

evileeyore:
Warrax:
Right now, the plan is to discard them like anything else which doesn't follow the appropriate guidelines.

That should definitely be added to the FAQ.  Or at least be included in the update post.


This is generally in keeping with the posted policy already. There is already documentation regarding us dropping images we deem unacceptable. We specifically list stuff like blurred or inappropriate images and such, but it's still pretty much "if it doesn't meet the standards, we drop it," and the submission window is the standard.

Cleaning up the FAQ is on the to-do list as well, of course, because it's got a mix of edits and updates from back when Shannara was doing them, and then strikethroughs from when policies changed, etc, etc. So that's definitely on the radar, but like with much else we've discussed, it's on the backburner until we can get a couple of cycles under our belts to make sure this isn't just a temporary fix. Naturally, we do appreciate this kind of feedback.
Locke1221
 member, 30 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:27
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
That's not really keeping with the older policy though, because if you got you submission in after the deadline for whatever reason, it would just roll over to the next month. If you guys are going to just outright toss a submission because it came in late, it really does need to be explicitly noted.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 246 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Like Warrax said, we'll be taking feedback and working to get the policies updated where appropriate; but yes, this is a change that absolutely does need to be clear, so we'll try to keep reminding people big and loud. As soon as we can get around to altering the official documentation, we'll put any updates in there, but that's an admin thing. Once it happens, I'm sure there'll be another announcement to let everyone know, so keep an eye out for that.
Warrax
 member, 198 posts
Wed 15 Nov 2017
at 15:38
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
This is literally the first submission cycle, so as I've noted already, we're trying stuff out and will sharpen things as we go forward. Very much on our list is an updated FAQ once we have everything pinned down, but to be frank, the refinements and particulars are not priority for us in this phase because we're just making sure we can actually sustain doing the basic job. Once we're sure that's good, then we'll start with stuff like full clarification and precision, which we do recognize is important.

Does that help some? I know it isn't a direct answer to the question, but that's mostly on account of the fact that we aren't going to have direct answers to a lot of the granular stuff just yet. This is the first cycle. We'll get it done roughly, then we'll tighten things up moving forward, because that surely needs to happen so that everything is clear and consistent.

And as Morgan just noted, we will very much make sure that our policies are clear and easily available going forward once we pin it all down.
Grimmond
 member, 469 posts
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Sat 2 Dec 2017
at 18:40
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan is correct ... although, you MAY submit entries ALL month long, I scoop them up on a certain date then leave the bin once more and allow it to accumulate entries. So there is a date that your new entries have to be submitted if you want them "THIS MONTH".
Grimmond
 member, 470 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Sat 2 Dec 2017
at 18:46
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Locke1221 (msg # 42):

Locke1221 ... I handle the first intake of submissions. Emails come to us and are left in a "bin" no matter what day of the month they arrive. I don't check the bin the day before or the day after a cycle, or any other day of the month. So emails just "accumulate".

There is an "intake day" that I cycle through hem each month. I grab all of the submissions on that day and move them to a working directory. I strip the images out of the emails, check them for approval, and pass them on to a working directory.

This procedure is effectively the doorway to the cycle. So everything on the doorstep at that time comes in, and everything left on the stoop after gets looked at next month.
Gaffer
 member, 1510 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Sun 3 Dec 2017
at 14:21
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Grimmond (msg # 46):

That makes a lot more sense. Thanks, Grim.
Flarelord
 member, 379 posts
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 01:21
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Does the next update run toward the end of jan?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 249 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 05:06
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Flarelord (msg # 48):

Yes! One of our team had to take some time away over the holidays, so we're working on both December's and January's upload right now. We'll make our first post about uploads at the end of this month.
Flarelord
 member, 380 posts
Wed 17 Jan 2018
at 06:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
awesome, good to know you plan to announce when :)
treatedshammy
 member, 3 posts
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 16:22
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Morgan Coldsoul:
In reply to Flarelord (msg # 48):

Yes! One of our team had to take some time away over the holidays, so we're working on both December's and January's upload right now. We'll make our first post about uploads at the end of this month.


What was the latest with this then?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 251 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 5 Feb 2018
at 18:16
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We are waiting from some data from one of our members to make that post. Uploads have already been done; we're just dealing with the actual announcement.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 252 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 09:51
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We're still getting some data together to format a proper announcement post, but y'all can go ahead and find plenty of new portraits uploaded to the galleries from December and January! Please remember to try and have any submissions for this month in by Valentine's Day.
Flarelord
 member, 382 posts
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 12:57
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I... can't really see anything new in most of the female galleries?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 253 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 12 Feb 2018
at 19:03
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Hmm, I can see some of them but you're right, a few submissions I know we've gotten definitely aren't where I can find them. Warrax will have to take a look and see what's up. In the meantime, please go ahead and avail yourselves of the other uploads.
Flarelord
 member, 383 posts
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 02:33
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Curious if there's any word on the previous batch?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 254 posts
 25+ years experience
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 03:46
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We did have an error with the most recent upload that we are working to fix; specifically, a number of the December/January portraits seem not to have made it correctly into the gallery. Warrax is looking into it and we'll make an announcement once we've gotten it hammered out.

If that's not what you mean, then you'll have to be more specific. D:
Flarelord
 member, 384 posts
Sat 17 Feb 2018
at 04:23
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
No worries. I was just wanting to resubmit if needed. That was what I was asking about.

Good luck with the glitch :)
Rockwolf66
 member, 34 posts
Mon 19 Feb 2018
at 00:10
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Hopefully we will hear something soon.

I submitted an image of a character and with any luck I can use an Exact image of my character that was commissioned a couple of years back for a non-Rpol game.
lensman
 member, 186 posts
 Crestline, CA, -8 GMT
Fri 2 Mar 2018
at 03:25
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I submitted a portrait in Feb., have looked through a number of most likely Category, not seeing it.

ETA?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 256 posts
 25+ years experience
Sun 4 Mar 2018
at 21:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We have received the February submissions, which are edited and ready for upload. We will also be continuing to accept submissions for March. However, one of our team members appears to have gone unexpectedly MIA while investigating some problems with the January upload, so we are somewhat behind schedule.

If anyone is interested in helping to do the upload step, please let the mods know! We would welcome additional team members to further streamline our process.
mexal
 member, 172 posts
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 15:27
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
What does the process involve?
Shannara
 moderator, 3780 posts
 Keep calm, drink more
 COFFEE!!!!
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 17:41
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Actually, please let jase know rather than the mods, or simply discuss it with those now doing the portraits.

The moderators aren't really involved in this process now.  :-)
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 257 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 5 Mar 2018
at 18:36
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thank you! As always, our veteran Shannara is more an expert about it than me. So, please let jase know if you want to join the team.

We've broken the process into three steps. The final step is simply uploading sorted and edited commissions to the gallery, which requires access to FTP software. A knowledge of PHP and similar is useful in case there's a minor hangup and you need to figure out the glitch, apparently, but I don't know that it's required. The FTP part is the critical one.
mexal
 member, 173 posts
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 16:24
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Is that the bit you need a hand with? 'Cos I have FTP software and know my way around PHP.
Flarelord
 member, 386 posts
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 16:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Would that I could, but I lack the skills. Here's hoping mexal can help!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 258 posts
 25+ years experience
Wed 7 Mar 2018
at 17:13
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to mexal (msg # 65):

Yes, that's the part where we're currently missing hands. If you'd like to help us out, please let jase know, as Shannara said. We thank everyone for all their offers of assistance!
mexal
 member, 174 posts
Thu 8 Mar 2018
at 10:48
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
OK, I have sent Jase an rMail.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 259 posts
 25+ years experience
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 15:41
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The submissions for February should be available in the gallery, now. Apologies for the delay; if you notice any errors, please report them as usual! We're doing spot checks as we go into preparing March's submissions for upload by the end of the month.
Flarelord
 member, 391 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 17:12
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Yay, my old upload was there this time :D
\o/ Thanks, all :D
treatedshammy
 member, 4 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 17:47
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
If a submitted one (from around Jan I submitted) isn't up, I assume that means it wasn't approved then for some reason or another? If so, as far as I saw I had followed the criteria in terms of size and such so what other reason could it have been denied?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 260 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:05
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I really couldn't say. It might have been a duplicate, or it could be in a gallery different from the one you'd expect. There have been several times in the past when I submitted a portrait, and it was placed into a gallery other than the one I had kind of assumed from the outset. I'd recommend checking all the galleries, in case it's not in the one you were thinking of at the time of submission.
PaulK
 member, 219 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:18
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Iím in a similar situation with a February submission.  Iíve tried all the gallerys I consider at all likely.  Unless it got slotted in somewhere in the middle I canít see it.

It did need to be reduced in resolution and file size, and that might not have worked out, but I canít think of any other reason it might have been rejected.
Bornite
 member, 40 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:30
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
PaulK:
Iím in a similar situation with a February submission.  Iíve tried all the gallerys I consider at all likely.  Unless it got slotted in somewhere in the middle I canít see it.

It did need to be reduced in resolution and file size, and that might not have worked out, but I canít think of any other reason it might have been rejected.



Pretty much the same here, except I did have it sized correctly as well as a larger version.  Even listed some suggested key words/tags.

That's one thing I haven't seen for a while is any tags for newer portraits.
Bornite
 member, 41 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Something that came to mind that might be of help for people looking through for their submission is when you announce that a batch has been posted, list how many went into which category.  I seem to remember that this had been done previously.  It would at least cut down the number of locations that someone might have to look through.  ;-)
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 261 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 18:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We had some errors with a couple of earlier uploads, and the team is doing a double-check to see what made it in and whether anything was missed. It's hard to give a straight answer without knowing what the specific submission was, but rest assured we're trying to get it all smoothed out.

New submissions will always go on the end, so if you don't see yours, then something probably happened with the FTP upload. We haven't rejected very many, at all, and those only because they were dupes or (in one case) because there was simply no way to make it look usable due to blurriness/pixelation/etc. All the rest have been processed and edited, but the uploads caused one of us a bit of trouble, and so we're going over that part with a fine-toothed comb to make certain everything got where it was supposed to.

If you don't see yours, let us know! Please keep in mind that March submissions haven't been dealt with, yet, so it should only be January or February that might have been affected. And yes, we're getting together a list of how many were added to which gallery, too, just like Shannara always did. Eventually the bugs will work themselves out, please just be patient. <3
treatedshammy
 member, 5 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 76):

I've searched as deeply as I can (though I wasn't completely sure how to search by newest ones so I just sorta went through all) but I still can't find my own submission that I submitted in the end of December actually (just saying so it's known when it was submitted)
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 262 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:11
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We'll take a look at that month, then, too. Thanks for letting us know.
lensman
 member, 188 posts
 Crestline, CA, -8 GMT
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
My submission in Feb is not in the Male > Fantasy > galleries as far as I can tell.
PaulK
 member, 220 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 19:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Mine isnít a duplicate as far as I can tell.  If it was the one that wasnít usable - is there any way to find out ? I could resubmit at higher quality next month.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 263 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:09
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
There's not a great way to tell, no. I can try and take a look through the submission emails, if they haven't been deleted, though there's little guarantee anything that went to the bin after attachments were uploaded is still there. Like I said, there have just been a small handful that were rejected, so chances are good yours is supposed to be in the gallery; it just may not have made it properly in there because of the difficulties we've had in the last few weeks.

And once again, be sure to check every gallery, just in case. The newest ones are always on the last page or two. There have been times when something I looked at and thought "Male > Fantasy > Warrior" instead wound up in "Male > Scifi > Human" and so on. It does happen.
PaulK
 member, 221 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:35
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Iíve tried more galleries with no luck.  Any info about the reject might help, like the original resolution (even a roug( idea) or just a description - but if itís not something you can remember off hand I suppose there are more important things on your plate.

While the uploads arenít working reliably it might be worth recording the rejects.  I know itís more work and I wouldnít suggest it if there wasnít all this uncertainty.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 264 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 20:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
What I'd recommend for now is, if you've searched the last pages in all the galleries and can't find your particular portrait, send us an email with your submission attached and "submission verification" in the subject line. Put the month you originally submitted it in the body to help us narrow down where to look, and we'll compare it to what we've worked on and make sure it's in the output folder so we can track it down.
PaulK
 member, 222 posts
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:02
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Done, thank you.  (Though I admit to not checking the Pokťmon galleries!)
evileeyore
 member, 75 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:25
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Any chance the rejected submitters could be notified and told why when they are rejected?  It would certainly cut a little bit of some people's wondering "was I rejected" queries out of the mix in the future.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 265 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:29
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Shannara didn't see a reason to do that, and given her experience, I think trusting her judgment is probably safe.
lensman
 member, 189 posts
 Crestline, CA, -8 GMT
Mon 19 Mar 2018
at 22:43
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Then I urge you to change the policy for the better.
alexsayshi
 member, 60 posts
Tue 20 Mar 2018
at 01:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
treatedshammy:
I've searched as deeply as I can but I still can't find my own submission that I submitted in the end of December actually


If its the one for my game that you're talking about, then I found it in the galleries. I sent you a PM there about it :)
treatedshammy
 member, 6 posts
Tue 20 Mar 2018
at 11:23
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
alexsayshi:
If its the one for my game that you're talking about, then I found it in the galleries. I sent you a PM there about it :)


They were correct, seems like it was the one section i had accidentally missed. So sorry for my being a dumb and missing it
Flarelord
 member, 392 posts
Wed 21 Mar 2018
at 05:32
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thanks again, everyone. People are glad to see my Icon :) Got my march sub in :)
PaulK
 member, 224 posts
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 19:30
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So far as I can tell my February submission did not make it through (I did send a confirmation, as advised).  On the assumption that it was the quality that was the problem Iíll resubmit a higher-quality version unless told otherwise,
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 267 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 5 Apr 2018
at 22:29
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
A reminder too, just in case, not to submit links to images. Make sure your submission is attached to your email as a file!
Flarelord
 member, 394 posts
Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 12:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Awww, got excited seeing you posted Morgan :)  Really glad the submissions were opened back up; just wanna say thanks for having it up and running.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 268 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Fri 6 Apr 2018
at 14:45
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The three of us (with Shannara's sage counsel) are just doing our best to try and help out this site we all love!
Flarelord
 member, 397 posts
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 17:04
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The March submissions aren't in yet, right?
PaulK
 member, 225 posts
Thu 19 Apr 2018
at 17:15
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I think that those that were successfully uploaded are in.  From what Iíve been told in email (thank you) my February submission was accepted - but so far as I can tell it hasnít been successfully uploaded even now.  There are still problems, it seems.
Mad Mick
 member, 945 posts
 GURPS beyond measure,
 outlander
Fri 20 Apr 2018
at 02:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thanks for your efforts, everyone.
Visceri22
 member, 461 posts
Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 12:57
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Admittedly, I'm a bit behind in the goings on of the new portrait team so forgive me if I've missed something and sound like a broken record here.

Assuming we got our submissions in on time, the estimated upload time for the month's portraits are the last week or two of the month, correct? Not sure if the team is still working on previous months' submissions, though it wouldn't surprise me considering the likely backlog of people's desired submissions during the gallery's downtime.

TL;DR - Checking to see if we should be looking for April's submissions to have been added yet or if patience should continue to be a virtue.

Thanks for the hard work portrait team!
Flarelord
 member, 398 posts
Wed 25 Apr 2018
at 12:59
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Patience I think. Waiting on mine from last month ^^
Flarelord
 member, 399 posts
Sat 5 May 2018
at 15:05
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Speaking of which, though. I would like to check in and see how that's going, given it has been a while. Not really intending to rush it, but I am curious how it's going.
Netta
 member, 30 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Sat 26 May 2018
at 16:15
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Visceri22:
Assuming we got our submissions in on time, the estimated upload time for the month's portraits are the last week or two of the month, correct?


I'm curious about this, as well. I'm not sure if I should be looking for my submission now or at the end of June.

Thanks to the portrait team. :)
Flarelord
 member, 401 posts
Sat 26 May 2018
at 18:41
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I'm still waiting for one sent about a month or two ago. ^^;
Flarelord
 member, 402 posts
Sun 10 Jun 2018
at 13:48
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Checking in on this - any word on the next gallery update?
Netta
 member, 31 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Sat 23 Jun 2018
at 19:01
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Hey. :)

Is there any update on portrait submissions?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 269 posts
 27+ years experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 28 Jun 2018
at 03:50
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
You should be able to see submissions to the female and neutral galleries. Unfortunately, there's some kind of coding error going on with the male gallery, so this month's and last month's submissions for that section have been processed but not yet successfully uploaded. The team is working to resolve the situation, and may have a workaround; as soon as there's an update on these circumstances, we'll make an announcement here.
Flarelord
 member, 403 posts
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 14:46
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I don't actually see anything new in any of the female galleries, don't look at neutral enough to tell, though.
Visceri22
 member, 462 posts
Fri 29 Jun 2018
at 20:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thanks for the heads up!
Kessa
 member, 563 posts
 Dark Army:
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 07:44
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
A little help, please.

I submitted a portrait on 5/31/18 that would have been very decidedly female. My understanding is that it should have been left in the Inbox to be processed during this last upload. Definitely not in any of the galleries. Just went through them all.

Is there a delay in new portraits popping into the galleries?

No emails about it even in my Junk Folder. No watermark or other attribution on the image. Nothing inappropriate. I didn't size it down, but I beleive that's part of the process it goes through after submission. Should have been high enough quality to size down, I believe. Not a duplicate of something already in the galleries. Username in the email text.

Did I forget or overlook something else that was needed?
evileeyore
 member, 99 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 09:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
And that post above is why I've always felt that those rejected and accepted should be told.  And if rejected, why.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15595 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 09:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to evileeyore (msg # 109):

Please bear in mind that the portrait volunteers (like everybody who works for the site) perform their function for free, and in their own spare time.  How they allocate that time is entirely up to them.
Hapax Legomenon
 member, 12 posts
Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 10:01
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to bigbadron (msg # 110):

Sure, absolutely right.  But it can't hurt to make polite suggestions.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15596 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 10:09
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
The suggestion had been made before.
Kessa
 member, 564 posts
 Dark Army:
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 17:17
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
It isn't a huge issue if it was rejected, but it seems to me there could be some upload issue we aren't aware of yet. I'm less sure, but I also didn't seem to see any new portraits after the upload. Usually, these would show up at the end of the previous images, unless something has changed. I did go through literally every image in every gallery looking for what I submitted though-- which took a hot minute. ^_^ I know Male portraits were stored separately from Female and Neutral once upon a time, but I'm not sure if this is still the case and, if not, if whatever is affecting the Male gallery might also actually be affecting them all. Either way, it's worth bringing up for a check, even if it's just to make sure all the volunteer hours aren't being wasted on images that aren't updating in the end.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15597 posts
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Thu 5 Jul 2018
at 17:26
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Kessa:
I know Male portraits were stored separately from Female and Neutral once upon a time, but I'm not sure if this is still the case and, if not, if whatever is affecting the Male gallery might also actually be affecting them all.

That is still the case.
Netta
 member, 32 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Fri 3 Aug 2018
at 14:52
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Just checking to see if there's possibly an update? Thanks in advance. :)
jaws78
 member, 10 posts
 To err Is human ...
 ... to role play divine.
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 05:37
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I see that after the notice of portrait submissions being closed this thread is alive and well.  Any chance the notice can be updated if they are open or not?

I'm confused.

Thank you all for everything you do!  It is my favorite playground.
Flarelord
 member, 404 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 17:20
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Yeah; themost recent time they've said they updated I didn't see anything in any of the female galleries.  I've been waiting since Feb/March for an earlier submission to pop in.  It's mostly people checking up on it...
jaws78
 member, 11 posts
 To err Is human ...
 ... to role play divine.
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 17:50
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Ahh ok, thanks for the update.  We do have like a million options here but I do struggle with some of the cultural diversity.  We are a bit spoiled though ;)
Grimmond
 member, 480 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 15:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We are still on hold. We have an issue apparently with permissions to upload images. We are attempting to get an answer from Jace but he has been absent for a bit. As soon as we have this figured out we will have a very large image dump (March, April, May, June, July and August submissions).

So hang tight. There is still a pilot in the cockpit.
Hapax Legomenon
 member, 18 posts
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 15:08
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Grimmond (msg # 119):

The update is super appreciated, thanks much!
Netta
 member, 33 posts
 Do no harm
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Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 15:21
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thank you!!!
Kessa
 member, 569 posts
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Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 19:40
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Ah! Makes sense! Thanks for the update Grimmond! ^_^
Grimmond
 member, 481 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 19:56
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
We will strive to keep you guys informed. No problem.
jaws78
 member, 12 posts
 To err Is human ...
 ... to role play divine.
Tue 28 Aug 2018
at 06:49
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
As always the best RP site anywhere.
liblarva
 member, 569 posts
Tue 28 Aug 2018
at 21:00
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thank you all for the mountains of work to keep the site going. Not just the portraits, but all of it. It's appreciated.
Shadewolfe
 member, 84 posts
Mon 8 Oct 2018
at 04:43
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017

Roger that.  I'll sit on my possible submissions until I know yall are caught up and the queue is clear.  I've not no interest in piling on work if the system is effectively down.
Grimmond
 member, 482 posts
 Antler-care by LIV THATCH
 "RALPH" The Wonder Llama
Mon 8 Oct 2018
at 16:59
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
So our problem was with a sudden change to the system that no one saw coming or could explain. It "may" be fixed. We are doing some tests to verify that we are able to upload once again.

So you may make submissions as you like. They will just continue to stack up in the "in box" if you will until we are able to upload them once more. When we get the uploads going again we will let you know.
callen
 member, 41 posts
Mon 8 Oct 2018
at 17:51
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Grimmond (msg # 127):

Thanks for the heads up and the suggestion of continuing submissions. I'd known something was wrong a while before it showed up in discussion here and went the same route as Shadewolfe: stop and let you all catch up. Nice to hear you feel like you're making progress. Thanks for the hard work!!!

This message was last edited by the user at 17:51, Mon 08 Oct 2018.

Flarelord
 member, 405 posts
Tue 6 Nov 2018
at 17:07
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Thought about uploading something earlier, decided to check and see if it was still down first, though :D
808writer
 member, 4 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 01:28
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I'm certain this question has been asked, I just submitted two portraits, when will I know they are available to use?

Further, not trying to be condescending, but why not make it available for users to simply edit avatars that they want to use themselves?
bigbadron
 moderator, 15663 posts
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 but mostly he's Ron.
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 05:19
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to 808writer (msg # 130):

As mentioned in the FAQs, there are five reasons why we prefer to have control over the submitted images:
the FAQs:
  • Quality control, we make sure the size is the same, the image is as small (in size) as possible without compromising quality, the photo/drawing area are as similar as possible.

  • Avoiding error/cross boxes (when an image no longer exists).

  • Avoiding inline linking (a.k.a hotlinking, direct linking, offsite image grabs) issues.

  • Avoiding "bandwidth exceeded" errors/images.

  • Completely eliminates the possibility of a member using an inappropriate image.

The current technical issues do not invalidate any of those.
808writer
 member, 5 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 18:16
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
I think you guys are severely underestimating the knowledge of your users if errors is your concern. Maybe I'm just not well informed for such a large website but all of these concerns seem minor and not that big of an issue. Placing a small explanation of how to properly upload images and then simply letting users upload the avatars of the characters that they want to have seems like a very basic and simple thing to do. And if there are issues, seeking out the help of a Moderator at that point.

Further if your fear is quality control (ie dick picks or something lewd) that can also be monitored by Moderators, I will agree that the Moderators having full control does make this process even easier, it just makes those that have to wait for the beginning of each month for an avatar of their character in their games a bit annoying.

I'm not trying to be argumentative or condescending, simply have a better grasp on why the process is annoying.

Thank you for linking that for me, could you answer my first question as well? Do I have to wait for the beginning of next month for my avatars and is there anyway to know when those avatar images are uploaded? Or do I just have to keep checking?

Sorry for the questions (I think it might help if you guys just do a massive text post of all of this information and Notice it - for example, "indefinitely no longer taking portrait submissions" is still a notice so I didn't submit my portraits for a long time until I noticed this threaed). And thank you for answering them in advance <3
Shannara
 moderator, 3799 posts
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 19:00
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Portrait updates are on hold as the script to finish the process in the gallery is not currently functioning.  Only jase can fix it, so until he does, the process is on hold.

Also, until and unless jase moves the portrait hosting to RPoL or other hosting of his choosing, the portraits are hosted by volunteers -- and I am one of them.

If RPoL allowed anyone to upload any picture they wanted to, even with size restrictions, I would cease providing the space and bandwidth immediately, because I don't care to take that risk. I can't speak for the other volunteer who hosts the female/neutral portraits, but she might have concerns of her own.

I believe that jase has eventual plans to move the portrait hosting to RPoL's servers ... once he does that, he may make other changes.

This message was last edited by the user at 19:02, Wed 07 Nov 2018.

bigbadron
 moderator, 15665 posts
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 19:42
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
In reply to Shannara (msg # 133):

I can speak for the other volunteer, and she would definitely not be happy with the idea of random strangers being given the ability to upload images to the space that she pays for (as opposed to the current system, where she knows who is doing it).
Shannara
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Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 20:05
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Replying so that the subject line is changed as well.

To repeat:

The script that adds the portraits to the gallery is currently not functioning.

Jase is the only one who can fix it.

Until he does, portrait submissions cannot be added to the gallery.

We do not have any kind of estimate as to when the issue will be fixed, unfortunately.

Until that time, if you want to use a portrait other than the ones in the gallery, you will have to use code (/help/?t=faqs&page=rubbcode) to bring the picture into your post.
808writer
 member, 6 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 21:48
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Thanks for getting back to me, like I said I'm not here to argue or fight anyone, was just genuinely curious why a simple feature wasn't added. However I understand that having inappropriate pictures, advertisements of any kind are an issue that is easily avoidable if the portraits are filtered through mods in the first place, and as you aid above, apparently just a preference.

I won't post more on this matter, though I am disappointed to find that I have to wait, again, for two avatar pictures for a game I've been playing in for almost three years now. But such is life.
tibiotarsus
 member, 15 posts
Wed 14 Nov 2018
at 22:52
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Ahoy glorious leaders!

Thank you for keeping us updated, even if I only just found this thread (I'm smart, hdurr).

Some related questions: where will it be announced or obvious when portraits are going again, and/or if the Gallery Updates thread over at Portrait Posse is defunct, is there a way to tell whether a portrait has been rejected or simply put in an unexpected place?

Thank you!
Netta
 member, 34 posts
 Do no harm
 but take no shit.
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 00:03
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May we have an update? :)
Shannara
 moderator, 3808 posts
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 COFFEE!!!!
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 00:29
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The issue is one that will need to be addressed by jase.

I'm sure he'll let us know when things are working again.
ladysharlyne
 member, 2413 posts
 you have to risk the
 dark to see the light
Wed 6 Feb 2019
at 19:03
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Just want to thank you all behind the gallery and am sure it will be fixed in good time but just to say that you all are appreciated xx
LordAshes
 member, 20 posts
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 18:45
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Why not provide an option to use third party links hosted on third party sites for portraits. That way there is no need to maintain a gallery but users can still get the benefit of custom portraits.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15695 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Sun 10 Feb 2019
at 19:09
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Because we have, on numerous occasions, alreay ruled out such an option.

Having a gallery provides us with control over the quality and content of the portraits, to name just two reasons.

The FAQS:
Why can't I link to an image elsewhere?

Five reasons;

    Quality control, we make sure the size is the same, the image is as small (in size) as possible without compromising quality, the photo/drawing area are as similar as possible.

    Avoiding error/cross boxes (when an image no longer exists), ŗ la .

    Avoiding inline linking (a.k.a hotlinking, direct linking, offsite image grabs) issues.

    Avoiding "bandwidth exceeded" errors/images.

    Completely eliminates the possibility of a member using an inappropriate image.
        /help/?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq

This message was last edited by the user at 19:12, Sun 10 Feb 2019.

evileeyore
 member, 156 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Sat 9 Mar 2019
at 23:00
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Not sure it really matters but portrait mms244 is not in fact a male soldier... it's Christina Cox from the tv show Combat Hospital.
callen
 member, 45 posts
Mon 11 Mar 2019
at 21:20
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In reply to evileeyore (msg # 143):

It's happened before. I believe the policy is to just leave them because dealing with the gap is more troublesome than having a misplace picture.
DarkLightHitomi
 member, 1454 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 08:13
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Wouldn't it be easier to simply have tags and thus each page list by tag rather than manually organizing them? That way you could easily fix an issue like this as well as making the search mechanisms more flexible and expandable.
tibiotarsus
 member, 34 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 08:55
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They're trying to implement tags, but since the system wasn't set up like that it's just a few volunteers tagging a handful of portraits whenever and the search function is still pretty useless as yet. If you want to find portraits it's best to trawl everything that might possibly be related - and some that aren't! By the 'we put it where users suggest' thing I now understand how one of the images I submitted got incredibly misplaced (should have been mh19##, wound up in fmc##), since I'd been considering sending one for another game and must have forgotten to change the header.

I suspect that's what's happened when you get obviously female people in the male galleries and vice versa. Things would go faster with more volunteers, but vetting them for that level of power takes time...time that could be spent improving the tag system...so...
callen
 member, 46 posts
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 14:03
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, they're hosted in different places. So it's not quite so simple as that since a search of such tags would stay within a single site.
praguepride
 member, 1374 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Tue 12 Mar 2019
at 23:28
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As someone who has tagged literally hundreds of portraits I'd say try the tags first. Don't get too specific but gender + race is a good start, or gender + hair color.

There are a LOT of portraits scattered around so you'll probably get a couple of pages to work with at least.

I've found that it's about a 40/60 spread about whether the tags have what I'm looking for.

The key is gender + one other item and go from there.
tibiotarsus
 member, 47 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 09:11
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Any updates on this issue? A background character in my long game has become something of an icon, but there isn't anything close to a reindeer to illustrate him. Nor any old Japanese ladies to sort-of pass off as native Siberian...
praguepride
 member, 1435 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 18:51
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Honestly at this point I often don't even bother with portraits for NPCs and just use their descriptions to post cool images found across the web.
tibiotarsus
 member, 48 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 20:40
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Cool if that works for you! Someone might want to have an older Asiatic/Native lady (or reindeer) PC someday, though, and the present crop of portraits is rather scanty in several demographics. It would be nice to have an idea when it might be fixed, or what could be done to help it be fixed, so I thought I'd mention it while this thread was still on the first page.
RosstoFalstaff
 member, 168 posts
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 23:17
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In reply to tibiotarsus (msg # 151):

Well as has been said before by the mods and the people who maintained the galleries, if you see a lack of diversity it's partially because people weren't adding those to the gallery. At this point we can only hope to remedy that once someone takes the project on again
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 89 posts
Sun 16 Jun 2019
at 23:43
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We've made a few 100x100 portraits for NPCs that needed things that weren't available in the current gallery, and just right-align them into every post those characters make. It's almost as good as having an actual portrait, as long as you have somewhere to host the image.

I know it's not ideal, tibiotarsus, but it might work for what you need in the time being.
tibiotarsus
 member, 49 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 08:33
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
That is a very good stopgap, though unfortunately not one that works with my brain (I view the site with portraits off because a static best-fit image doesn't fit with my highly visual imagination and is irritating to me, but I have a player with hypophantasia - where you don't really "see" pictures when you read, making a lack of portraits a hindrance to distinguishing NPCs if anyone shares a voice colour). Also, as RosstoFalstaff mentions, if we can't upload new persons or creatures then it discourages diversity through difficulty of access, which lowers the quality of the gaming environment in general. I'm not going to make a profile for my half-Evenki PC's mother until there's a prospect of her getting her own picture, but it makes me sad that his father's had one for a long time now, as though he's less of a background NPC/more important.

In short: I really was posting in hopes of an update on what steps are being taken to fix this when, e.g. "we need to get the servers stable and will look at this after that in a few months, maybe remind us", rather than advice - even good advice - on what to do while it's not fixed.
jase
 admin, 3623 posts
 Cogito, ergo procuro.
 Carpe stultus!
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 09:42
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The uploading and tagging operations should now be operational for the portrait team so I believe they can resume operations.  Give them a little while to get back into the swing of things but hopefully we can resume some semblance of normalcy.

FYI we've currently got about 5,410 portraits tagged out of the 13,950.
callen
 member, 47 posts
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 14:53
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In reply to jase (msg # 155):

Thank you all so much for your efforts. You're all awesome!
tibiotarsus
 member, 50 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Mon 17 Jun 2019
at 21:29
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Awesome! Thank you so much, that's great!
Warrax
 subscriber, 222 posts
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 19:43
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Further to jase's remarks, yes, the portrait team is now back in business thanks to jase's efforts. We're working to deal with some backlog and in the (hopefully) reasonably near future, portrait submissions should be open once again.
Ymdar
 member, 2 posts
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 19:51
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I still don't know how to submit pictures and the wiki isn't really clear on naming convention in my opinion.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15748 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 19:57
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In reply to Ymdar (msg # 159):

Instructions for submitting portraits can be found here: /help/?t=faqs&page=portraitsfaq

As for naming conventions... that is something only the portrait editors need to be concerned with, as they are the ones who attach names to the images.
Visceri22
 member, 470 posts
Wed 19 Jun 2019
at 22:58
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In reply to Warrax (msg # 158):

I know that you and the rest of the team had a lot to see to when you first took on the job before things broke down a bit, and likely were more focused on getting the work done above all else, but I was curious if you had any plans on announcing portrait updates this time around at some point? Maybe not as in-depth as Shannara used to with breakdowns of each category, but even something akin to "# of portraits uploaded to gallery" in this thread or some other notification that would give us cause to check if ours had been added.
Isida KepTukari
 member, 279 posts
 Elegant! Arrogant! Smart!
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 13:46
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Question - the portraits for women and neutral characters have been down for weeks.  Any idea when they will become visible again?  Every one of my characters and DM personas have question marks for faces.
Dream Sequence
 member, 42 posts
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 13:48
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In reply to Isida KepTukari (msg # 162):

I haven't experienced this; all of my existing portraits are working just fine.
12th Doctor
 member, 105 posts
 Laugh Hard. Run Fast.
 Be kind.
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 15:33
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I can also see everything; when is the last time you cleared your browser's history, temp files, cache, etc?  That may be the issue.

This message was last edited by the user at 15:34, Fri 28 June 2019.

Ekorren
 member, 131 posts
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 15:46
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They're down for me in Chrome but works fine in other browsers. Clearing cache doesn't work.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 90 posts
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 16:07
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I'm using Chrome, and everything's been working fine.
Isida KepTukari
 member, 280 posts
 Elegant! Arrogant! Smart!
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 16:09
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
The portraits work in IE, but not in Chrome.  I just cleared by cache, etc. and still can't see the portraits.  :(
bigbadron
 moderator, 15752 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Fri 28 Jun 2019
at 16:34
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I just took a look at your games, and I could see all of the portraits.  What you seem to be describing is an issue that can occur sometimes when one of the chain of links between your device and a portrait server goes down, cutting you off from the server.

Unfortunately when that happens (and it seems to be the case here, since we aren't getting hundreds of complaints about a broken server) there isn't anything we can do about it.  Your only option is to wait for the owner of that link to fix it, or try a different browser (which might use a different route to connect to the server).
Mahatatain
 member, 208 posts
Wed 10 Jul 2019
at 10:27
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Warrax:
Further to jase's remarks, yes, the portrait team is now back in business thanks to jase's efforts. We're working to deal with some backlog and in the (hopefully) reasonably near future, portrait submissions should be open once again.

This is fantastic news and thank you in advance for all of your efforts.

Presumably there will be an announcement when you are accepting new portrait submissions?

Thanks.
praguepride
 member, 1453 posts
 "Hugs for the Hugs God!"
 - Warhammer Fluffy-K
Thu 11 Jul 2019
at 17:26
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
hot diggity that is great news!
lilbug
 member, 75 posts
Sat 13 Jul 2019
at 12:20
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
That would be wonderful!  I definitely have some portraits I would like to submit, and also I do think there may be some old portraits on there that are not utilized or no longer utilized, so maybe there might be a way to clean it up some to keep the relevant portraits in there?

Anyway, no matter what I've missed them and I would be extremely glad to see them return.
Gaffer
 member, 1571 posts
 Ocoee FL
 40 yrs of RPGs
Sat 13 Jul 2019
at 12:24
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to lilbug (msg # 171):

How can you tell whether a particular portrait is being used by someone?
bigbadron
 moderator, 15764 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Sat 13 Jul 2019
at 13:23
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Gaffer (msg # 172):

You can't.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15765 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Sat 13 Jul 2019
at 13:29
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to lilbug (msg # 171):

Just because a portrait is old, does not mean it isn't being used.  A particular portrait may have been added by a player to represent their character in an older (but still active game).  Or it might be exactly the look that somebody wants for a newer character.

Also note that, even if the portrait is not currently being used, removing it from the galleries would also remove it from any previous game posts where it was used, leaving those posts with blank portraits (or, in the case of portraits being replaced, with new portraits which the character's owner might not like).

Older portraits will not be removed or replaced.

This message was last edited by the user at 14:00, Sat 13 July 2019.

facemaker329
 member, 7098 posts
 Gaming for over 30
 years, and counting!
Sun 14 Jul 2019
at 05:49
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Yeah, I don't see the value of removing old portraits...the very function of a portrait gallery, I thought, was so players had a 'first place' to look for portraits for their characters.  I've never felt the need to submit a portrait, because I was always able to find something acceptable out of the existing galleries...might not have been perfect, but it spared me additional hours of effort tracking down a portrait and getting it gallery-ready, then playing the waiting game with that submission...didn't take me all that long to browse a few galleries and find a good choice.

Removing old portraits seems akin, to me, to editing words out of the dictionary because nobody uses them anymore...they're there for reference and you can no longer refer to them when they're gone...
Elohvey
 member, 81 posts
 This is awfully small.
 Preposterous!
Mon 15 Jul 2019
at 18:25
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Are portrait submissions still on hold? I wanted to send a few in. :)
Mahatatain
 member, 209 posts
Fri 19 Jul 2019
at 15:38
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Elohvey (msg # 176):

Warrax:
Further to jase's remarks, yes, the portrait team is now back in business thanks to jase's efforts. We're working to deal with some backlog and in the (hopefully) reasonably near future, portrait submissions should be open once again.

It seems to be getting organised but we're not able to submit any yet.

Presuming that the submission rules work as before then you're only allowed to submit one portrait per "cycle". A cycle was roughly a month long previously but might well be different now.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2491 posts
 you have to risk the
 dark to see the light
Tue 23 Jul 2019
at 19:06
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I think the cycle was one every two weeks.  The team are working hard on catching up on the submissions from the past and will post here when it is alright again to submit the pics again.  There are a lot of pics already there and if you are looking for someone in particular you could always try this Forum/Game.

link to another game

RPol gallery lists, and these guys there are also remarkable for trying to keep up-to-date with the portraits.

Another tip is that a pic maynot be in the category you are looking for them in and it is good to look through all the categories it could be in.

Cheers

To BBR, one a month, I retract my two week statement.  xx

This message was last edited by the user at 19:32, Tue 23 July 2019.

bigbadron
 moderator, 15767 posts
 He's big, he's bad,
 but mostly he's Ron.
Tue 23 Jul 2019
at 19:08
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
ladysharlyne:
I think the cycle was one every two weeks.

Nope, was definitely one every month.
Chartauk
 member, 6 posts
Tue 13 Aug 2019
at 20:11
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In reply to jase (msg # 155):

Great news! Keep us all posted of any and all issues/advances/ect
Mahatatain
 member, 217 posts
Tue 3 Sep 2019
at 21:40
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Please can I just double check that portrait submissions are now being accepted?

Thanks.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 159 posts
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 17:12
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Do we have any kind of word on when submissions will be open again, even if that word is 'Not for another few months'? It's been several months of total silence from the team, leading me to wonder if the question is no longer 'when' submissions will be open again, but 'if'.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 276 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 17:26
Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
The user assigned to uploading the finished submissions is having some difficulties, and since they're handling end-of-the-line processing, we can't get anything new into the galleries while they're out of commission. Unfortunately, there's no way to be certain when they'll be back at 100%.

If you're interested in taking over the volunteer position for that duty, I'd say message Shannara or someone on the mod team to express that and maybe you can join the team and help get things straightened out. Otherwise, we'll continue to try and find a workaround or reorganization that's functional, and one of us will update with good news when we have it.
evileeyore
 member, 246 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 18:06
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Morgan Coldsoul:
Otherwise, we'll continue to try and find a workaround or reorganization that's functional, and one of us will update with good news when we have it.

Instead of waiting [TIME INTERVAL] until there is good news, how about assigning one person the task of updating once a month with any news, fair or foul?

Heck, tell ya what I'll volunteer for the job of keeping in touch and with the team and interfacing with the board if no one else wants the job.

This message was last edited by a moderator, as it was against the forum rules, at 19:14, Sat 05 Oct 2019.

Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 277 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 18:45
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
You're more than welcome to help out in that fashion, if the powers that be have no complaints! More help is generally better than less, in my experience with volunteer duties.
seraphmoon
 member, 112 posts
 OSX10.14; iOS12.4 & 10.3
 Talks lots. Reads more.
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 19:54
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
What does the end processing involve? I don't have the time or spoons at the moment to do any manipulation or cleaning up of images, but I've got scripts to batch resize and convert.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 278 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 20:05
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I'm not 100% certain about the scripting part, but I think it involves an FTP upload. That isn't the part of the job I've been hands-on with, so unfortunately I can't definitively tell you more, but I can ask.
seraphmoon
 member, 113 posts
 OSX10.14; iOS12.4 & 10.3
 Talks lots. Reads more.
Sat 5 Oct 2019
at 21:37
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Uploadingís easy. Really, anything that isnít cleanup or manipulation beyond cropping Iíve probably already got scripts set up for. Iím kind of lazy that way. :)

Donít worry about asking; I can drop a note to the mods just as easily.
Shadewolfe
 member, 90 posts
Sun 6 Oct 2019
at 05:44
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice

I pre-edit my submissions because it lets me see how they look when cropped and reduced in size.  If they look like crap at that point it's time to find a better or different image.
Mahatatain
 member, 220 posts
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 18:49
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
A big thank you to the team that have organised the latest portrait update. Greatly appreciated.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 279 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 19:22
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
You're welcome! We do our best as much as we can.

Uploads are still in progress and submissions for this cycle are still open till the 15th. We'll update with full details on recent developments and progress around the 16th!
tibiotarsus
 member, 74 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 21:44
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
AYYY! (sorry, excited)

Is there anywhere where it'll be posted which galleries have been updated?

Thanks so much for the update and hammering things back into functionality again, it's appreciated.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 280 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 10 Oct 2019
at 21:51
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
We'll try to post a Shannara-style update toward the end of the month, when updates for the cycle are well over, with the stats for each gallery. Fair warning that the numbers may be just a little bit garbled this month because we wound up dealing with the backlog from this multi-hiatus situation, which included volunteer absences as well as a period that had to do with coding errors. So, I think there were some submissions (for instance) from prior submission cycles that had already been accepted and just couldn't be uploaded at the time, etc.

We'll do the best we can this time around, and then for future cycles it should be easier (assuming no new difficulties crop up).
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 281 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sat 12 Oct 2019
at 02:56
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
This may also be a good time to remind everyone (especially newcomers) of submission requirements for portraits, since the gallery hiatus has gone on for a while. The rules are listed in the FAQs at the top-right of every page, under General RPoL Information/Portraits FAQ.

The only update to the existing policies (of which I'm aware) is that submissions are now accepted for the first half of each month. You have until the 14th to send in your submission if you want it added during the current cycle; submissions received after the 14th will be processed during the next cycle. Otherwise, everything listed in the FAQ is still valid, so please be sure to remember the following:

  1. You can make one submission per cycle. If you make more than one, only the first will be considered, and additional submissions will have to wait until the following month.

  2. Please only send in one image. If your email includes more than one image, I'll pick the one I like best to pass on for uploading. If you send more than three images, your submission will be rejected for the cycle.

  3. Do a quick check for duplicates before you submit, so that you aren't sending in something that's already there or that's too close to an existing image!

  4. You don't have to pre-edit your images or send a specific file type (although it's best to avoid .gif files); I'm more than happy to do it for you to the best of my ability. If you choose to pre-edit, portraits need to be 100 x 100 pixels and should be in .jpg format. Try to keep them 5kb or smaller (if you can't, I'll compress them).

  5. Don't send in submissions that include text anywhere on the image.

  6. Try to avoid images that are too closely cropped to the subject's face; portraits need to be square, at the end, so something with a rectangular shape might wind up with ugly borders.

  7. Be sure to insert your submission into your email (acceptable) or attach it as a file (best). Do not send links to images!

  8. Finally (and most importantly), put your RPoL username in your submission email! I cannot stress this one enough. It can be in your subject line or it can be in the body of the email, but it must be there. Submissions without a username attached are automatically rejected, and you'll have to try again next month. If you've already sent a submission in the last couple days, double-check that it includes your username and, if it doesn't, reply to the email chain to add that if you want your portrait processed this cycle!

One other, less important note: It's totally fine to suggest a specific gallery in which you want your submission to appear, but be aware that your portrait isn't guaranteed to show up there. It may get uploaded to a different part of the gallery for several reasons, so be sure to check any and all categories we list as having been updated at the end of the month to make sure you find yours (assuming it's accepted).

This message was last edited by the user at 04:33, Sat 12 Oct 2019.

Elohvey
 member, 93 posts
 This is awfully small.
 Preposterous!
Sat 12 Oct 2019
at 14:26
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 194):

Awesome!

So what email do we exactly need to use?
Dream Sequence
 member, 51 posts
Sat 12 Oct 2019
at 14:28
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Elohvey (msg # 195):

See post #1 of this thread.
Elohvey
 member, 94 posts
 This is awfully small.
 Preposterous!
Sat 12 Oct 2019
at 14:56
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Dream Sequence (msg # 196):

Thanks!
Warrax
 subscriber, 224 posts
Tue 22 Oct 2019
at 17:24
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
tibiotarsus:
AYYY! (sorry, excited)

Is there anywhere where it'll be posted which galleries have been updated?

Thanks so much for the update and hammering things back into functionality again, it's appreciated.



So I think some of the confusion is on me. I posted an update to a public thread in a specific forum which doesn't seem to appear to the easy-to-access "RPoL Forums You Peruse section." The updated included the first half of the upload cycle with some numbers and so forth, but I'm getting the sense that folks aren't finding it. I will post updates here going forward noting such things at the end of the cycle.

Sorry for the confusion, folks.

We're at 14,028 portraits uploaded after 61 were added, and there should be a like number later today when I get back to my machine.
tibiotarsus
 member, 81 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Tue 22 Oct 2019
at 17:32
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
If it helps any, as a random user who's been around a while I can see the forum where portrait updates used to be posted, having been specifically directed there in the past, but although it's gone red a couple of times recently there're no new posts edit: or edits - in a place I can see.

Updates here would be excellent, though. Thank you for all your hard work sorting this!

This message was last edited by the user at 17:33, Tue 22 Oct 2019.

Warrax
 subscriber, 226 posts
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 17:38
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Speaking of portraits, the last of the backlog (the female portraits) have been uploaded. We're at 14088 portraits after 60 uploads.
Locke1221
 subscriber, 34 posts
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 18:00
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
For clarification purposes, are you only referring to the old backlog submissions, and not the current ones that Morgan Coldsoul stated would be open until the 15th?

I had submitted a female portrait prior to the 15th, and don't see it anywhere, unless it's the Female Modern Casual 1102 that appears to have a broken link.
Warrax
 subscriber, 227 posts
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 18:06
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Just the stuff from the backlog. I will investigate fmc1102. Can you describe the image at all? I have local copies I can sift through. Is it a Rihanna picture?

This message was last edited by the user at 18:07, Fri 25 Oct 2019.

Warrax
 subscriber, 228 posts
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 18:08
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
So, refresh the page and look again, because that portrait is showing up fine for me. For whatever reason, it was labeled .JPEG instead of .JPG and that was probably breaking things.
Locke1221
 subscriber, 35 posts
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 18:12
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Yes, that one is working now.

If the last of what was updated today was just the old backlog, that explains why my submission isn't in. Do we have an ETA for when we can expect the non-backlog recent submissions to go in? No rush, just wondering when to check back and look for it.
Warrax
 subscriber, 229 posts
Fri 25 Oct 2019
at 18:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I am coordinating with Morgan at the moment and will post an update when I have a better idea.
Warrax
 subscriber, 230 posts
Sat 26 Oct 2019
at 18:22
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Right.  So apparently, we're only a few portraits behind. I've got some stuff which is to go in the Neutral category, and three portraits for the female category. Hopefully, one of those is what you're looking for, Locke. Those will be up by the end of the weekend, life permitting.

Otherwise, you may want to bump the email chain so Morgan sees the image you're talking about.
Locke1221
 subscriber, 36 posts
Sat 26 Oct 2019
at 23:46
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Cool, I'll keep an eye out, and do as you suggested if it isn't up. Thanks, and thanks for the hard work!
Warrax
 subscriber, 231 posts
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 00:51
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
If I did this properly...

Here


That should be an imgur gallery with the three remaining female portraits which, IIRC, were what you are after. Is one of them your pending image?

This message was last edited by the user at 00:51, Sun 27 Oct 2019.

tibiotarsus
 member, 83 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 01:22
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Did you upload a 19th century Asiatic lady somewhere odd? I sent in the one for that PC's mother when the hiatus was ending, but it's not with the ones you have left there and I think I sent it from the wrong e-mail - it has to be the one you joined up with, right?

Got the one for the little sister I sent in way back, though. So exciting to be able to make profiles for these folk.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 164 posts
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 01:24
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Far as I know, tibio, you can submit from any email, you just have to make sure that the submission includes your RPoL user name.
tibiotarsus
 member, 84 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 01:38
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Funnily enough, I thought I would send the currently-MIA portrait because I only saw that rule recently and thought I hadn't put it on the one that did go through...

Unrelatedly, good to see more options for older women and grannies in the recent Female Casual upload as I poked around there. Grannies for everyone!
Locke1221
 subscriber, 37 posts
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 15:28
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Warrax:
If I did this properly...

Here


That should be an imgur gallery with the three remaining female portraits which, IIRC, were what you are after. Is one of them your pending image?


I'm afraid not. Maybe it bounced, because I admit I had forgotten the proper formatting. Submission is still right?

If I need to resubmit, I can do that real quick too.
Warrax
 subscriber, 232 posts
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 15:30
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Yes, please resubmit and we'll see about getting it handled.
Locke1221
 subscriber, 38 posts
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 15:57
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Resubmitted =) I did forget to add my username though, so if I need to, I'll resubmit again. I apologize!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 282 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 16:01
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
If you just sent a new email and forgot your username, you can reply to the message chain with the name, nbd. As long as it's there!
Locke1221
 subscriber, 39 posts
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 16:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
And done =)
Warrax
 subscriber, 233 posts
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 16:26
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Marvelous.
tibiotarsus
 member, 85 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 18:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
[points up at message #209]

Any sign of that lady, or shall I resubmit as well?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 283 posts
 28+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 18:23
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to tibiotarsus (msg # 218):

Can't be sure which one you're talking about, of course, but after a glance at the most recent uploads I don't see one jumping out at me that seems to match your description. Probably best to resubmit (or bump the email chain, if you still have the original message, and review to make sure you included your username, etc.) and if it's a duplicate, we'll check before uploading a second time and try to catch it.
tibiotarsus
 member, 86 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Sun 27 Oct 2019
at 18:34
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Re-sent, from the right e-mail address this time.
Patchlord
 member, 16 posts
Fri 1 Nov 2019
at 14:46
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice

This message was deleted by the user at 14:50, Fri 01 Nov 2019.

Elohvey
 member, 95 posts
 This is awfully small.
 Preposterous!
Sun 10 Nov 2019
at 06:49
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Warrax (msg # 208):

Woohoo! Mine is the last one. Which category might it be in after it's uploaded?
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 168 posts
Sun 24 Nov 2019
at 15:47
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I realize we're coming up on the holiday stretch and that things will likely not be running on the usual schedule, but should we be looking forward to a round of portrait updates this month (and the last three female ones and the Neutrals that seem to have not made it in from a month ago)?

This message was last edited by the user at 15:48, Sun 24 Nov 2019.

Warrax
 subscriber, 234 posts
Sun 24 Nov 2019
at 15:58
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Yes, there is going to be an update.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2504 posts
 you have to risk the
 dark to see the light
Sun 24 Nov 2019
at 16:44
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
THANK YOU to ALL those on the PORTRAIT TEAM for putting in the portraits we have sent in.  I suggest that if yours has not been posted yet please just email it again also...
Alectai
 member, 383 posts
Thu 26 Dec 2019
at 02:27
Re: Resuming Portrait Submissions - October 30, 2017
Just checking, do I still use the same procedures from before the lockdown with a portrait submission or has that changed in the past few years?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 284 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 26 Dec 2019
at 02:38
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Things are pretty much the same! See message #194 in this thread.
liblarva
 member, 617 posts
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 03:57
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
So the cut off for submissions is the 14th of a given month, but when are the pics added to the system? There used to be an announcement post about how many were added to which category, but I havenít seen those lately. I know itís the holidays, so Iím no complaining or cranky, Iím just curious.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 285 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 04:12
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
All portrait submissions accepted on the 1st-14th are intended to be uploaded no later than the last day of the same month, so the new cycle can begin on the 1st. Warrax has said he's going to make an effort to post announcements about the uploads, again, going forward, so keep an eye out!
liblarva
 member, 618 posts
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 04:50
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 229):

Cool. Thank you. And thanks to everyone working to keep this going.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 184 posts
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 05:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Morgan Coldsoul:
All portrait submissions accepted on the 1st-14th are intended to be uploaded no later than the last day of the same month, so the new cycle can begin on the 1st. Warrax has said he's going to make an effort to post announcements about the uploads, again, going forward, so keep an eye out!

What about portrait submissions sent in from the 15th through the end of the month? (I feel like those should be rolling into the following month, logically, but I just want to clarify since I'm concerned by the way that you worded it that submissions sent in from the 15th through the end of a month are just perhaps not being uploaded at all.) There hasn't been an update since the third week of October, and the October backlog update from post #206/208 still hasn't been uploaded it appears, so can we expect three months' worth of update when we next get one? Assuming we get one in January, that is.

I'm not trying to ride you guys, and I do appreciate all of the effort being put forth, but it's a little frustrating to keep being told 'yes, there is going to be an update' (as was supposedly the case for both the end of October and the end of November) when there aren't updates happening. I can speak only for myself, but I would rather hear 'We're swamped and probably won't make it, please be patient' instead of being told something definitive that then doesn't happen.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 286 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 06:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
As I believe has been explained before, any submissions received from the 15th onward are part of the next month's batch. So, a December upload to the gallery (for example) would include any valid submissions received from the 15th of November to the 14th of December. The 14th of the month is just the cutoff point for the current upload for that month. Apologies if the wording in the quoted text was confusing!

As for updates, I just prepare the portraits and make them ready for the gallery; anything beyond that is out of my control, so unfortunately I can only repeat what I'm told. When someone asks whether there's going to be an update, and I've been told that there will be, that's what I say.

An enormous number of portraits were uploaded in October, that I know for sure because I've verified it by checking. If you're not seeing a submission you sent in November, all I can suggest is that you double-check the email to make certain you included your site username (we don't email back to tell you why your portrait was rejected, so make sure you check the gallery for existing portraits close to the one you're submitting, etc.) and/or rMail Warrax, who does the actual uploading step, sorry.
Visceri22
 member, 471 posts
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 06:26
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Yeah it does seem like there's a disconnect somewhere, as I'm sending it to the same saved email address I've had portraits uploaded to for nigh on a decade, but they've not been showing up since the October flood of portraits. I'm certainly willing to be patient though considering the amount of work that goes into the process by the volunteers. Any illumination from Warrax on his end as well would certainly be appreciated!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 287 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 06:34
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Visceri22 (msg # 233):

I can't remember which one it was, but I did process at least one that for sure had your username attached, so hopefully we're getting them all properly. Of course, if that submission was sent in as part of the November batch, and that hasn't been uploaded, then...

All I can say on that, at the moment, is to rest assured that we have all valid submissions still on file (with backups) even if they haven't made it to the gallery, so they will get there eventually.
Visceri22
 member, 472 posts
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 06:40
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 234):

If it was a very angry lizardfolk, then I'd imagine that's the one from November in question. Good to know it's at least made it to the right place.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 288 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 06:47
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I can't be certain which one specifically is yours, but there are several lizardfolk portraits processed and in a folder for gallery upload.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 185 posts
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 08:00
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Morgan Coldsoul:
An enormous number of portraits were uploaded in October, that I know for sure because I've verified it by checking. If you're not seeing a submission you sent in November, all I can suggest is that you double-check the email to make certain you included your site username (we don't email back to tell you why your portrait was rejected, so make sure you check the gallery for existing portraits close to the one you're submitting, etc.) and/or rMail Warrax, who does the actual uploading step, sorry.

Yes, I know that a lot of them -were- uploaded in October. I also know that three female portraits (listed in posts #206/208 of this thread per Warrax) apparently were never uploaded that month, nor were several Neutrals. (The female portraits are visible in that imgur link, and they're definitely not up in the galleries as of this evening.) That was supposedly backlog, as at least one portrait submitted for one of my games (per Locke1221's conversation with Warrax in this thread) prior to the 15th of October (but not backlog) didn't make it in that month. Nothing has been uploaded since then, despite Warrax stating in November that there would definitely be an update that month.

That was over a month ago.

Should we:

 A) Expect an update in January at all?
 B) Expect ALL of the portraits that haven't been uploaded since October in that update, if it comes?
 or C) Expect some number of portraits in between?

I realize that you can only pass on the information you've been given, Morgan, but Warrax has told us more than once that there would be updates by <X> date and those updates have never appeared, nor has any explanation for why that update didn't happen. It would be nice if we could stop being told 'Update this month!' if we're not going to see an update that month.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 289 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 31 Dec 2019
at 08:25
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
You'll have to take it up with Warrax, sorry; I literally can't tell you any more than I have, since Warrax handles the uploads. All I know is that if I personally say to expect an upload, it's because I've been told that you should, as of the time I say it.
bigdaddyG
 member, 25 posts
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 17:23
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Is it okay to still send submissions in. New here so wasn't sure. Did send one.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 290 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 2 Jan 2020
at 18:25
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to bigdaddyG (msg # 239):

Yes, absolutely! Just make sure to follow the rules and include your site username someplace in the email, and try to skim the gallery for duplicates before submitting.
Mahatatain
 member, 221 posts
Thu 9 Jan 2020
at 21:19
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Does anyone know if the portraits submitted between 1st and 14th Dec have been uploaded to the gallery? I've looked and I don't think that they have.

I ask because I have another portrait to submit but I don't want to send it in if it's going to prevent my one from Dec being uploaded to the gallery.

Thanks again to all those people who voluntarily do this chore. Your efforts are appreciated by the vast majority of people on RPOL.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 291 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 9 Jan 2020
at 21:24
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
It doesn't look like he's got the December batch done yet. If you send a new one in now, though, it'll be part of the January batch, so that's fine.
Mahatatain
 member, 222 posts
Fri 10 Jan 2020
at 00:00
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 242):

Thanks for clarifying. I'll send it in.
Locke1221
 subscriber, 41 posts
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 22:09
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
December? What about November, or October?

I understand Morgan that you have no control on that end, and I equally understand that Warrax is not being paid for their work, but we're months on without portraits which just means the backlog is ever expanding.

Can I live without portraits? Absolutely, I use hosted portraits for my NPCs that I feel we need it. However, being told that there will be an update, and then there never is, just makes us all wonder what the heck is going on. It also becomes really frustrating.

If life matters and situations have made new portraits untenable, I think we would all understand. We dealt without new portraits once before, and we can again, but letting us know about a suspension of uploads for whatever reason would be nice so we can stop sending submissions that just make the backlog even larger.
evileeyore
 member, 280 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 01:25
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Locke1221:
December? What about November, or October?

There was an upload in October, it was huge, however it seemed to be missing about 5-8 pics, which were supposed to go out in the next upload.

Which has never occurred.  And Warrax does know the user base is frustrated and would appreciate any info, even "Still working on it", however the team doesn't care about "non-release updates".

So my recommendation:  Don't make any submissions.  Eventually, someday, the backlog will be cleared.  Maybe we'll get told, maybe they'll just sit back and marvel at the empty submission box.  Who knows, it's not like they'll bother getting in here and talking to us.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 190 posts
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 02:09
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
The upload in October didn't appear to actually include stuff (or at least not everything) that was submitted IN October. Most of it, if not all of it, appears to have been just the previous backlog, which is what Warrax stated during that upload announcement. So there's still at least some (if not all) of the actually-submitted-in-October stuff that needs uploading. There's November that needs uploading. There's December that needs uploading. And now there's January that needs uploading. At this point, we've just created a SECOND backlog.

It's great that Morgan is continuing to tell us to submit things, and formatting them and sending them on to Warrax for uploading, but the system appears to be falling down at that point. Other people have offered to join the team and assist (I'm not sure if they actually are, or not), and I know some other people (myself included) that would be willing to do so, but all the help in the world won't solve the issue which is that things appear to be sitting untouched on Warrax's desk after having been sent there by Morgan. Unless someone else can be put in charge of uploading the images, I don't see how more people working on Step 1 would help solve the issue, and having multiple people trying to upload the same images feels like the sort of thing that would create all kinds of confusion and/or double uploads, etc. Is it possible that someone else COULD actually be put in charge of handling the uploads, or does that just cause too much confusion with the 4+ months of stuff that's already been sent on to Warrax?

The crux of the matter is this: The more backlog we create without it actually being uploaded, the more difficult actually getting it uploaded is going to be. There's a jam-up in the system, and it needs to be cleared before we keep piling more things on top of it.

This message was last edited by the user at 02:12, Thu 23 Jan.

evileeyore
 member, 281 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 03:37
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
SunRuanEr:
The more backlog we create without it actually being uploaded, the more difficult actually getting it uploaded is going to be. There's a jam-up in the system, and it needs to be cleared before we keep piling more things on top of it.

Hence my suggestion:  Stop making submissions until the backlog gets cleared.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2515 posts
 In Games you get out what
 effort you put into it!
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 17:38
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I do agree with EEyore in that stopping submissions again until all the backlog is caught up and I do mean ALL.  NO matter who is doing the final inserting of pics it is all going to snowball effect on them and no hope in sight.  Those in charge of the gallery are working the best they can and remember, they all have real lives too that come first.  So there needs to be a stop point so that they can catch up and feel they have accomplished something.  Once it is all done then start the submitting pics again when we are given the go ahead but with it starting a 'clean slate' fresh beginning for the gallery team who work as best they can. Adding more and more gallery members to the pot would just make things worse in my opinion.  Everyone, almost, wants to help, but lets give those working the time to work that it takes them.  There are plenty of pics to use until the one you submitted shows up.  I pick ones out and every few weeks check through the gallery to see if one I sent or someone else sent has been uploaded for a particular character.  The pic does not make any difference either way when you are writing a post it is just nice to have a lookalike character.


Bottom line:  Let the Gallery Team do their job in their own time without 'pushing' them to get things done.  Its a big job and they know what they are doing so perhaps STOP sending in pics until this is finally TOTALLY caught up then everyone starts 'FRESH' and new after checking time and again for their pic they sent to be added.  Let's be glad we have a team working hard at helping all of us.

Just my two cents and not that of any of the Admin or Moderators

Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 292 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 18:06
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
The Oct-Nov '19, Nov-Dec '19, and Dec '19-Jan '20 submission batches have all been vetted for uploading and are sitting in the folder. That's all I can tell you.

As I said further up the thread, when I announce that an upload should be expected, it's because I've been told to expect one, or I wouldn't make such an announcement. If and when an upload subsequently doesn't happen, I have no control over that part of the process and am just as surprised as anyone else. Rest assured that, given I've also got submitted portraits awaiting upload, that I understand your frustration.

If you want to hold off on submitting additional portraits, you can; if you want to continue submitting, then as far as I'm concerned, that's also fine. My part of the job hasn't proven to be burdensome and I don't mind continuing to accept and prepare any portraits we receive. Since I don't do the final step of uploading, I don't know how difficult it may or may not be and won't put words in Warrax's mouth.

Whether or not the situation will change, how, or when, I'm not in a position to tell you or to make any promises. vOv If something does change, I'll try to communicate that when it happens, assuming I am in a position to do so at that time. Otherwise, there's nothing for me to do but to say "I've been told an upload is happening" unless you also want me to say "oops, looks like it didn't happen" after 5 days or a week, at which point I'm sure most interested parties will have noticed for themselves, anyway. That's the best I can offer, because when an upload isn't made on time, I find out the same way you do: By checking the gallery for new additions and not finding them.

In the meantime, as ladysharlyne basically said, I'll ask that you please continue to bear with us while we try and improve things. Again, I get where any irritation is coming from and I feel it, too; I wish there was more I could do, at the moment. For those of you genuinely offering well-meaning suggestions and potential solutions, your helpful spirit is appreciated.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 191 posts
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 18:25
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I don't think anyone here is 'pushing' them to get things done, ladysharlyne. They are legit coming in here and giving the impression that updates are happening, either by Morgan saying things like 'it doesn't look like he's got the December batch done yet, so feel free to send one in for January', or by Warrax stating 'yes, there will be an update'. Updates aren't happening. Please stop giving the impression that updates are happening until/unless updates actually start happening. (Morgan, I understand you are only relaying what you've been told by Warrax, but I think at this point we can all agree that you've been told erroneous information.)

YES, I realize that we should stop sending in submissions until the backlog gets cleared. (I don't actually know anyone who HAS sent one in, since the October 'submissions are open again' that didn't have any of the new submissions uploaded, myself, so YES, we're taking that advice.) But by the exact same token, they should stop ACCEPTING submissions until the backlog gets cleared. Having one half of the team continuing to do things while the other half is doing nothing is what is creating the massive logjam... and while I certainly can't speak for Warrax, if he couldn't find time to upload the three leftover pics that he said he was going to upload back at the end of October, it stands to reason that he almost certainly can't find the time to upload the <however many but probably a lot> of pics that have been sent in since then. The more daunting a task is, the less likely anyone is to WANT to do it, much less find the time to.

As for this:
quote:
There are plenty of pics to use until the one you submitted shows up.

If there were suitable pics in the gallery, people wouldn't send in portraits. I like to think that everyone that plays knows that the portrait team works out of the goodness of their heart, and tries their best to not create more work for them just for the sake of creating more work. I realize, in practice, that some people ARE too lazy to check every portrait in the existing gallery before submitting one, but I also know that most of the players I know DO check literally every portrait to see if there's something suitable before they decide to submit another... especially with the current state of submissions. Sometimes, there simply ISN'T a suitable portrait to use that conveys the look/attitude/type of creature that is needed... and that is precisely why portraits get sent in.

And this:
quote:
Let's be glad we have a team working hard at helping all of us.

I am SUPER GLAD that we have a portraits team, but only half of it is actually working hard to help us. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking otherwise. I completely and totally understand that real life happens, and that RPoL is not a job, so there is no judgment in that statement - it's simply the truth. If the other half of the team is no longer able to do what they've come in here and said time and again that they are going to do, perhaps it's time to consider giving someone else the responsibility. Again, that's absolutely no judgment on Warrax at all. Stuff happens. People lose free time, or lose motivation, or whatever all the time... but be honest and say 'I don't have time/the fruits to give to do this anymore' instead of continually telling people you're going to do it and then leaving them hanging when it doesn't get done.

...and let's be clear, here. No one is being all 'Man, you said it would be done by Friday and it didn't get done until Monday!' here. It's been MONTHS. If a quarter of a year isn't a reasonable time to wait, I don't know what is.

@MorganColdsoul - Man, I totally know that you're doing your job, and you're frustrated by this too, and I'm sorry that it's the situation that you're in. I want to reiterate that  I am 100% willing to take over the job of uploading images if Warrax is unable to do it, but I don't think that having two people on the team handling updates is a good idea because of the potential confusion.  I work from home. I have free time. If you need a body to replace Warrax so that uploads get done, I'm volunteering. (Assuming it is something that my system is capable of handling, and I have no reason to think that it isn't, but I'm not 100% certain what requirements are necessary because knowing what the portrait team does feels like a secret recipe...)
Xenoviel
 subscriber, 26 posts
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 18:29
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I absolutely appreciate that life will rear its ugly head on the regular and step in to deny people the time they need to get things done. It happens to me and happens to all of us from time to time. I'm not here to pile on.

However, I feel the need to point out a stumbling block in the system: If this is being done entirely by volunteers (which is my understanding of the present status quo), and if we cannot hold any given volunteer accountable because they are a volunteer, we are left with a situation where a single person's entirely-valid real life circumstances can stop up the process entirely.

My suggestion is this: Allow an additional volunteer on the uploading end of things. Basically if whoever is in position to handle the initial monthly upload can't for whatever reason, the second person would take over after, say, two weeks without the upload happening. The second person then clears it out. This would work both ways, if both people weren't able to get the upload done in a given month, but the first one was good for the following month, there wouldn't really be a backlog.

All folks really need is some communication to set expectations, and for the system/process to work itself out before too much time passes. If we can get some extra communication and a little backup so that no single person winds up shouldering too much burden, I think things will work themselves out quickly enough.

---
If anyone wants a more specific suggestion for how to 'split' up portrait work. Give one person the 1st through the 14th of the month and the other person the 15th through the 28th. Both get exactly two weeks with no overlap and no one does any portrait work outside of their window. That prevents uploads from happening twice.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 293 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 18:38
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Any offers of assistance are appreciated, though I'm not the one to whom you should address them, unfortunately. I'm perfectly willing to accept aid from another volunteer, and something like what Xenoviel suggests might be a workable system for the reasons listed.

If you want to help out with portraits, rMail the mods or jase and let them know! I haven't seen the particulars of the uploading process, but I believe it just involves running a simple script.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2516 posts
 In Games you get out what
 effort you put into it!
Thu 23 Jan 2020
at 19:42
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Xen is offering a good suggestion.  Split the submissions in two groups to help get the backlog caught up once and for all.  Thanks for giving an example.

Also I meant that there were pics to use until the proper one someone submits is actually uploaded.

Does anyone have any contact with Warrax to see what is happening with them?  Knowing what completely is going on would be a help to everyone wouldn't it?  Again I agree with Xen there should be a second, at the least, doing the final uploads.
Warrax
 subscriber, 235 posts
Mon 27 Jan 2020
at 16:13
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Brief update from my phone but an update had actually been done. I'm troubleshooting why it has not appeared in the galleries.
evileeyore
 member, 282 posts
 GURPS GM and Player
Mon 27 Jan 2020
at 22:24
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Warrax:
Brief update from my phone but an update had actually been done. I'm troubleshooting why it has not appeared in the galleries.

/thumbsup.gif
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 294 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 15:52
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
The upload issue seems to have been dealt with. I'm currently out and can't compare every single gallery against the submissions in the folder, but the galleries I know for sure should be updated appear to have been. Those last few that were meant to make it into the original October backlog upload are definitely there for me, when I look, and I'm seeing lots of others in male/modern/rugged and female/modern/gangster, etc., that are recent submissions.

I'll double-check to make absolutely sure they all got in, later today, but at a glance that should take care of the Oct-Nov '19, Nov-Dec '19, and Dec '19-Jan '20 submission batches. Hopefully this means there will be no delays or problems with the Jan-Feb cycle, but we'll keep you posted and try to get out a Shannara-esque announcement for you of how many new portraits were added to each gallery.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 193 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 16:10
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Morgan Coldsoul:
Those last few that were meant to make it into the original October backlog upload are definitely there for me, when I look, and I'm seeing lots of others in male/modern/rugged and female/modern/gangster, etc., that are recent submissions.

Just to clarify for anyone else looking for portraits, the new portraits for (edit: modern) females are all in female modern casual, with perhaps the last two in female modern business. Nothing new was added to the female rugged, gangster, or soldier since the October update. (Or at least the final images in the galleries that I can see are the same ones that have been the last image since October.) Male modern rugged might have one or two new, but it's definitely less than four because the fourth one from the end has been up there at least since the October update. There are a few new at the end of male modern gangster, and modern casual, but I'm not sure how many.

I don't know how many portraits there were in total, but I can verify that the portrait I know was sent in prior to October 15th *IS* now uploaded. The total number of new portraits that I'm seeing feels a little light to be four months' worth, but I don't really have any idea what the average number of submissions per month are, so that's just a feeling. Someone else that knows an image that was specifically sent in during the November/December/January update cycles will have to verify those... but it does look like October at least is definitely finally uploaded.

Thanks for finally getting those in, gents.

This message was last edited by the user at 17:35, Tue 28 Jan.

Warrax
 subscriber, 236 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 17:20
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
As far as particulars, here's a rough go of it.

November update was pretty small.

Neutral demihuman and around a half-dozen in the Alien category.

1 male demihuman and spellcaster, three gangster, 2 rugged.

female 19th century, 3 casual, 1 alien.

somewhere in there, the 3 backlogged ones from October got in there, but I forget what they were.

December

neutral air, 4 neutral monster, 8 neutral demihuman, 1 neutral rogue, 1 business, 2 casual, 5 alien.

2 male casual, 1 rugged

1 female demihuman, 1 spellcaster, 1 business, 2 casual
Warrax
 subscriber, 237 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 17:36
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
There are still ten portraits for January pending. They are mostly female portraits and should be up in a few minutes, now that I'm finished with the backlog.

Submissions per month vary, and honestly, we don't have good data on that for various reasons. January has 10 portraits. November had about 13, December had 30. I'm tracking them from October forward, obviously, so we'll have a better idea in a few months. Even that, though, I expect to change. Posters have known for what, 3+ years that portrait submissions have been a little wonky? That's around when Shannara first suspended them.  So I suspect that as the updates get done more regularly and reliably, we'll see the average number rise at least somewhat.  I'd expect more of the 30-portrait months than those with 10 or 12.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 194 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 17:38
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Thanks for the list, Warrax.

Those two Neutral Casuals appear to have broken links in the gallery, though.
Warrax
 subscriber, 238 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 17:42
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
2 more male rugged. 1 female rugged, 1 female spellcaster and 6 female casual just uploaded.

Neutral casuals should be fixed now. Let me know.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 195 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 17:43
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Links are fixed now, aye sir.
Warrax
 subscriber, 239 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 17:45
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
All right, good stuff, thanks for checking.


So yes, we are fully up to date at this point, and should be on track for February once the submission window closes in two weeks (ish).

Thanks for bearing with us, folks.
Mahatatain
 member, 223 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 17:53
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
The two portraits I submitted over the last couple of months are there.

Thanks to the whole team for uploading all the portraits.
tibiotarsus
 member, 120 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 19:56
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Warrax:
female 19th century, 3 casual, 1 alien.


Huzzah! Thank you! Good to hear submissions may be working smoothly soon, too.

This message was last edited by the user at 19:57, Tue 28 Jan.

Visceri22
 member, 473 posts
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 07:01
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Glad to see things got uploaded. Sad to see mine that I submitted on two different occasions didn't. Just sent it again hoping third time's the charm.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 295 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 07:35
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Just checked for your email and actually don't recall seeing that one, before. I know you said it was a lizardfolk person and we got several of those, but it seems this one didn't get through somehow. Not sure why, if you sent it to the same email address, because it worked this time and it's definitely got your name on it.
MythZarya
 member, 34 posts
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 19:44
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Visceri22 (msg # 266):

Same. I submitted one on 11/10/2019 and resubmitted it on 01/09/2020. It hasn't made it to the gallery yet.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 296 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 20:17
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Double-check your email and make absolutely certain you provided your RPoL username. That's always the first thing I suggest, because if you don't include that, it's an automatic rejection. If you still have your submission email in your sent folder, take a look and make sure that's on there; if it is, resend it or forward it back to the submissions email so I can take a look and see what happened. If it's not, put that in there and send it again, and it'll be part of the Jan-Feb batch if you get it in before the 14th.

I'll keep an eye out, considering this is not the first time that's happened.
facemaker329
 member, 7155 posts
 Gaming for over 30
 years, and counting!
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 20:43
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Might also be advisable, if you haven't already done so, to check and make sure that your submission isn't too similar to something that's already in the gallery...
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 297 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Wed 29 Jan 2020
at 20:47
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Yes, please check for duplicates, too!
MythZarya
 member, 35 posts
Thu 30 Jan 2020
at 00:39
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 269):

I just resent it. Thank you. I provided my RPoL Username both times previously. I used to help with portrait editing a few years ago, so the image I submitted was already sized at 100x100 and under 5kb. It wasn't a duplicate either.
Warrax
 subscriber, 240 posts
Thu 30 Jan 2020
at 01:43
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
We will double check. Morgan is pretty awesome. If he decides it needs to go, I'll get it done this weekend.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 298 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 30 Jan 2020
at 03:41
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to MythZarya (msg # 272):

Checked for your email and we do have that submission. It was okay'd back in November and looks like it just didn't make it into the gallery with the upload, so we'll try and get that taken care of and do a double-check to make certain no others were missed.

Unrelated but also advisable: Anyone sending in submissions via link, please remember we don't accept portraits that way, per policy. Your file needs to be embedded directly into your email or attached as a file. If you've sent a submission as a link to an external file somewhere else on the web, please review your email and resend it as an attachment or embed instead!
MythZarya
 member, 36 posts
Thu 30 Jan 2020
at 08:18
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 274):

Thank you!
Visceri22
 member, 474 posts
Thu 30 Jan 2020
at 08:57
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I remember sending it in when I made the character in question the portrait was meant to represent. It was about the time I clarified with you about the username issue, so it was definitely in there. Chalk it up to the web eating it somehow. Oh well, I've waited a couple of months already, a little longer isn't going to make or break it for me. Long as it makes it up there at some point. Appreciate you looking into it.
Warrax
 subscriber, 241 posts
Thu 30 Jan 2020
at 21:32
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
MythZarya:
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 274):

Thank you!


Your portrait was actually uploaded, I just apparently dorked the script for that one file. I've fixed this; please check to see that it's in neutral spellcaster now.

Cheers!
MythZarya
 member, 37 posts
Thu 30 Jan 2020
at 23:39
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Warrax (msg # 277):

Yay! It's there. Thank you!
Warrax
 subscriber, 242 posts
Fri 31 Jan 2020
at 01:11
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
No problem, glad it's sorted.
Warrax
 subscriber, 245 posts
Tue 18 Feb 2020
at 15:26
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
29 portraits have been submitted in-period and should be up in the next couple of days. Will issue update when complete.
Mahatatain
 member, 224 posts
Thu 20 Feb 2020
at 10:05
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Warrax (msg # 280):

Thanks for your efforts on this - it's greatly appreciated.
Warrax
 subscriber, 246 posts
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 17:08
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
February submissions:

15 neutral portraits (mostly cheetah people).

6 female portraits (mostly casual, 1 17th Century)

8 male. A demihuman, a 19th century, one gangster and the rest rugged.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2545 posts
 In Games you get out what
 effort you put into it!
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 17:11
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Woohoo thank you so much team!
Mahatatain
 member, 226 posts
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 22:37
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Warrax (msg # 282):

Thanks for your efforts with the portraits.
Warrax
 subscriber, 247 posts
Thu 5 Mar 2020
at 23:21
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Thank you.

Morgan is also a critical part of the team! We're glad to be back in the swing. :)

This message was last edited by the user at 23:22, Thu 05 Mar.

Visceri22
 member, 475 posts
Fri 6 Mar 2020
at 06:19
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Much appreciated. My lizardman character thanks you :P
Warrax
 subscriber, 249 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 19:43
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
'tis that time of the month yet again.

5 Neutral avs (land, water and 3 demihuman)

15 Male (4 demihuman, 3 spellcaster, 1 warrior, 1 casual, 5 rugged, one human)

14 Female (1 demihuman, 2 rogue, 4 spellcaster, 2 warrior, 4 casual, 1 rugged)
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2563 posts
 In Games you get out what
 effort you put into it!
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 19:58
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Thanks for all the hard work

You need to check them out as they are showing up broken links or is it just me...
Warrax
 subscriber, 250 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:02
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I'll double check. They were working earlier.
Warrax
 subscriber, 251 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:06
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Try now?
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2564 posts
 In Games you get out what
 effort you put into it!
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:12
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Perfect they are all working now xx
tibiotarsus
 member, 140 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:12
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Yes! The picture for that Aboriginal guide comes just in time, thank you.

Noticed new fmc1133 seems to be a slightly closer double of fmc1011 whilst I was there, if that matters.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 235 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:13
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
This is for the batch submitted from February 15th through March 15th, yes?

This message was last edited by the user at 20:20, Wed 01 Apr.

Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 301 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:16
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
@tibiotarsus Female/Modern/Casual 1011 and 1133 look wildly different to me; first is a young woman and the newer one is an old lady. Are you sure those numbers/categories are correct?

@SunRuanEr Yes, this is the Feb-Mar batch.
Warrax
 subscriber, 252 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:17
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Correct.

Also, forgot to mention.

We had a dupe Kris Kristofferson av. Someone submitted a Bradley Cooper av for Male Modern Rugged.  It's there, it's replacing the dupe KK, and so it's on the second-last page instead of the last page, in case you're looking for it.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 236 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:19
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Found the one Tibio is referencing. It's fmc1101, not 1011.
Locke1221
 subscriber, 43 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:20
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Aha, I was looking for just that one. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
Warrax
 subscriber, 253 posts
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:21
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Ah, you two  beat me to it, I'd just spotted it as well.

Thanks for finding that, tibio.

EDIT: Aaaand, fixed.

This message was last edited by the user at 20:22, Wed 01 Apr.

tibiotarsus
 member, 141 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Wed 1 Apr 2020
at 20:37
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Sorry, I got so excited I rushed off to finish that guide's bio without noticing the typo. Thanks to everyone paying attention on that one!
Mahatatain
 member, 229 posts
Thu 2 Apr 2020
at 14:19
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Thanks to all those involved in making the latest update to the portrait gallery.
Whatsinaname0
 member, 2 posts
Thu 2 Apr 2020
at 15:37
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I submitted a portrait on March 1st and don't see it with this batch, should I resend it? I didn't get an e-mail rejection so I'm not sure if it was missed/unable to be cropped, etc. I checked through Casual, which seemed to be the most fitting, and I don't think I saw a duplicate.
Warrax
 subscriber, 254 posts
Thu 2 Apr 2020
at 17:10
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Morgan will try and hunt down the submission at some point, but can you describe the picture itself? There's the off-chance I just missed it when I was doing the uploads. I doubt it, but it's worth a look!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 302 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 2 Apr 2020
at 17:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Whatsinaname0 (msg # 301):

I don't see a submission email with your name on it or even one received on March 1, actually. If we received it, then the only thing I can think may have happened is if you left your username off or similar and it was rejected, it's just now been long enough that anything in the trash folder would've been auto-deleted. So, if it was a rejection, I wouldn't be able to find it now if it was sent on March 1.

Go ahead and resend it, and double-check that your username is somewhere in the email. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Whatsinaname0
 member, 3 posts
Thu 2 Apr 2020
at 17:27
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 303):

Okay, I'll resend. I had my account name in the subject and description, but it might've just seen it as spam since I didn't type much else. It's a mohawked 20-something in casual wear. Thanks for keeping an eye out!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 303 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 2 Apr 2020
at 17:45
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
No problem. Sorry about that; there have been one or two that somehow haven't gotten through (or took 2 tries), or so it seems based on feedback.

As always, to anyone who doesn't see their submission added to the gallery: Remember to send the image as an attachment or embed within your email (not a link, ever!), and to include your RPoL username in the subject line or the body of the email so it's clear who you are.
Gaffer
 member, 1609 posts
 Ocoee FL
 45 yrs of RPGs
Fri 3 Apr 2020
at 04:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Is there a way to view the portraits without going in through the Character Details in a game? Thanks.
Warrax
 subscriber, 255 posts
Mon 6 Apr 2020
at 20:31
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Not that I know of, shy of inputting the URLs for each individual file into your browser's address bar. jase might know different, though.
CleverMird
 member, 1 post
Mon 20 Apr 2020
at 17:58
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
hey, I just talked to Warrax and he said that he didn't get my portrait submission (painting of a woman with black hair and blue eyes in light grey/silver armor).

Do you know what happened to it? Was there an issue with the picture, or did the email not show up?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 304 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 20 Apr 2020
at 18:15
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Couldn't tell you specifically. If you still have the original sent email, double-check it and make sure
  1. the image is attached as a file or embedded in the email
  2. your RPoL username is clearly included in the subject line or body of the email

Those are the two big oopses that people make, and if either of those requirements isn't met, it's rejected. You can look at the list of other rules to be sure whether it may accidentally have violated any of those (such as being a duplicate), but those two are the main ones that we see.

If you've still got the first email you sent and it's something like the image was a link rather than an attachment, just fix that and send it again. We can roll it into the next batch, no problem.
CleverMird
 member, 2 posts
Mon 20 Apr 2020
at 18:26
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
I resent it- looks like I forgot to put in my username
Warrax
 subscriber, 256 posts
Mon 20 Apr 2020
at 19:19
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
WAAAUGH!!

Portraits uploaded.

4 female casual.

4 neutral demihuman, 1 neutral rogue, spellcaster and human

3 Male rugged, 1 male warrior, 1 male gangster
Mahatatain
 member, 233 posts
Mon 20 Apr 2020
at 19:35
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
In reply to Warrax (msg # 311):

Thanks for this. Appreciated.
Warrax
 subscriber, 257 posts
Mon 20 Apr 2020
at 19:41
Re: Portrait Submissions - On Hold Until Further Notice
Fools good to be regular again!


....

And now I'm a bran advertisement.  Crap. DOUBLE CRAP, THAT JUST REINFORCED IT!
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 262 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 21:03
Re: Portrait Submissions
Any word on the status of the May update, oh Ye Regular One, since it's now June? :)
Warrax
 subscriber, 266 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 22:08
Re: Portrait Submissions
I'm quite literally in the middle of doing it, as it happens.

:)
Flarelord
 member, 427 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 22:19
Re: Portrait Submissions
Yay~!
rmax
 member, 15 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 23:13
Re: Portrait Submissions
Thank you!
Warrax
 subscriber, 267 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 23:14
Re: Portrait Submissions
Okay.  Bit extra this month (last month...).  Did some file clear-out and an archive of the portrait selection as well as the usual additions.

I'm still in the process of doing things, but here's the update.

11 male portraits added. Demihuman, 17th, 19th and 20th century, casua, gangster, rugged and alien were updated.

4 neutral portraits added (Monster, Demihuman, Casual and Alien).

9 female portraits added (Demihuman, Spell-caster, Warrior, Casual, Rugged and Human).
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 263 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 23:26
Re: Portrait Submissions
Sweeeeet.

Thank you, oh Ye Regular One. :)
Mahatatain
 member, 239 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 23:28
Re: Portrait Submissions
Thank you.
Warrax
 subscriber, 268 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 23:30
Re: Portrait Submissions
SunRuanEr:
Sweeeeet.

Thank you, oh Ye Regular One. :)



Enjoy, folks!
Flarelord
 member, 428 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 23:36
Re: Portrait Submissions

This message was deleted by the user at 23:37, Mon 01 June.

Xenoviel
 subscriber, 30 posts
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 05:37
Re: Portrait Submissions
Hey folks.

I submitted a portrait on March 24. I am fairly confident that it met all of the requirements for a submission, including listing my username and, you know, attaching the image. I do not see it in the current update. Can anyone offer an update on this?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 307 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 06:47
Re: Portrait Submissions
Can you describe it to help me isolate it?
Xenoviel
 subscriber, 31 posts
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 21:56
Re: Portrait Submissions
A 20s-ish caucasian blonde woman. She has a white collared shirt (of which you can see part of the collar in the lower right). She is seen from the left shoulder, leaning slightly forward with her head turned to her left, and seems to be looking at something to the camera's right. Her head is tilted to about 11-and-5 on an analog clock.

Edit: it was submitted as a 4.7kb 100x100px .jpg file and the email suggested the portrait could likely be uploaded to female-modern-business.

This message was last edited by the user at 21:57, Tue 02 June.

Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 308 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 22:16
Re: Portrait Submissions
I'm not seeing an email from last month's window that has either that image or your username attached, including the rejections. It seems like once in a while, the forwarding doesn't work quite right and the account we use doesn't receive a random email, since this has happened at least twice before, I think.

Go ahead and resend it when you get a chance, and I'll monitor and see when and if it appears and whether it goes to spam, etc. If it comes through, I'll update here and let you know.
Xenoviel
 subscriber, 32 posts
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 00:26
Re: Portrait Submissions
Done!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 309 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 00:33
Re: Portrait Submissions
Alright, yeah; it made it through this time, but it's the first time I remember seeing it. Unfortunately, that probably means it bounced somewhere in the forwarding settings. We'll try to look into that, but for now, I've got the portrait you described with your username, etc., all attached. (b^^)b
Warrax
 subscriber, 269 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 13:51
Re: Portrait Submissions
Portraits uploaded for this period.

10 Male.  Warrior, 20th Century, Business, Casual (2), Gangster and Rugged (2).

5 Female. Demihuman, Spell-caster and Business (3).

6 Neutral. Monster, Demihuman (2), 17th Century and Casual (2).


Cheers, folks!
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 281 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 14:29
Re: Portrait Submissions
Thank you, kind sir!
Warrax
 subscriber, 270 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 14:38
Re: Portrait Submissions
Hope everyone enjoys.  We're getting a pretty solid base of two dozen to thirty portraits a month, which is nice.  Selection has been great lately as well.  Nice variety.
Mahatatain
 member, 243 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 14:46
Re: Portrait Submissions
In reply to Warrax (msg # 329):

Thank you and the team's work on this.

There have certainly been some good portraits recently.
Flarelord
 member, 429 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 15:17
Re: Portrait Submissions
Indeed. I am surprised mine ended up in neutral and not female demihuman.
tibiotarsus
 member, 172 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 15:28
Re: Portrait Submissions
Thirded. I love the last Neutral 17th Century addition. Thanks, whoever added that!
Warrax
 subscriber, 271 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 15:39
Re: Portrait Submissions
Plague mask FTW. :D
Locke1221
 subscriber, 46 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 20:31
Re: Portrait Submissions
Really appreciate it guys!
sellanraa
 member, 1 post
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 13:45
Re: Portrait Submissions
Been about a month since the last update.  Waiting to join a game until my little Private Joker/Modine pic is approved.  Fingers crossed it's soon.  Woot! :)
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 293 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 16:57
Re: Portrait Submissions
Updates should be up sometime in the next two weeks. Last month's update was earlier in the month than normal. The deadline for this month's submissions was actually just three days ago - give them time!
Warrax
 subscriber, 272 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 22:31
Re: Portrait Submissions
They're coming. Will be up this week some time.  I'm teaching this weekend but start looking Monday evening.
Warrax
 subscriber, 273 posts
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 14:38
Re: Portrait Submissions
Updates in.

5 female (Human, Business, Casual, Rugged and Spell-caster)
4 Neutral (Demihuman, Alien, 2x Monster)
8 Male (17th Century, 20th Century, Business, 2x Demihuman, 3x Casual)
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 294 posts
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 14:46
Re: Portrait Submissions
Woot. Thank you, sir!
Warrax
 subscriber, 274 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:13
Re: Portrait Submissions
Glad everyone's enjoying.

Quick reminder:  Just because you suggest a category for a given portrait doesn't mean it is guaranteed to end up in that category. If you think your portrait got missed, absolutely drop one of us a line (probably me, since I'm responsible for uploading and it'll give Morgan some peace!) and ask.  If it never made the uploads, it's probably you forgot your RPOL screen name or some such and we'll look into it.  If it got moved to a different category, I'll happily tell you where it ended up so you can begin using it!

Cheers.
Jarodemo
 member, 854 posts
 My hovercraft
 is full of eels
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:24
Re: Portrait Submissions
Thanks, mine is in and now in use!
Dream Sequence
 member, 61 posts
 Certainly the loveliest,
 most civilized of us all
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:46
Re: Portrait Submissions
In reply to Warrax (msg # 342):

Just a curious question:  Why would it be decided to put a portrait in a different gallery than the one suggested by the person who submitted it?  The categories are pretty arbitrary, I can usually barely detect a difference between Casual, Business, and Rugged, and have to search through all three to find "that one portrait I remember."

This message was last edited by the user at 20:33, Wed 22 July.

Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 310 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 20:11
Re: Portrait Submissions
In reply to Dream Sequence (msg # 344):

tl;dr: Usually it's just a rare and minor case of "they want this in female X but this person is nonbinary/male/etc." or similar, and once in a while it's an executive call to put it in a category where it might see broader use.

Longer explanation: The former is just general respect for the character or, in the case of real people, for the person. The latter is typically a case of someone submitting a monster or nonhuman creature of some kind; because they picked out the image for a character who already has an identity in their head, they're thinking of the image itself as male/female/etc., when actually it has no particular characteristics that pin it firmly to that category because it isn't a human being and doesn't play by our rules of appearance or physicality or whatever.

So, a lizard person or a dragonborn or an anthropomorphic animal might be placed in neutral to help indicate for users browsing the gallery that we feel that avatar is suitable for characters of any gender expression. Most people who go to the gallery looking for a portrait already have something in mind and can make that decision for themselves without help, but sometimes you have folks who might be on the fence, and seeing a portrait in a particular category can be what cements the decision for them to use it.

In either case, we get relatively few of these because most people who submit images to the gallery don't actually specify where they want it, to begin with, and just leave it up to us. Thus, the percentage of pics that end up somewhere else when someone does make an explicit request is vanishingly small. Nonetheless, because it does happen, as a courtesy we recommend that users check every gallery that's been updated after a cycle in order to find their submission, since we can't say we guarantee it will go where you ask.
Warrax
 subscriber, 275 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 20:31
Re: Portrait Submissions
So the male/neutral/female thing is usually pretty straightforward. It's very rarely something we change after submission. It's more the specific category inside of the broader category where it gets fuzzy, and to be honest? There hasn't been a lot of integrity to some of the categories for a while now and we're trying to change that so the categories are a little bit more descriptive of what you'll find with in.

Other than that, what Morgan said.
bigdaddyG
 member, 37 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 13:44
Re: Portrait Submissions
For Gender ones questions? What if we see a portrait that is clearly in wrong gender. Should we let you know? Asking cause know of at least one
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 311 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:05
Re: Portrait Submissions
Sure; if you see any mistakes in the galleries, at all, you're free to tell us and we can make a note.
ladysharlyne
 subscriber, 2774 posts
 You get out of a game the
 effort you put in it !!
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:23
Re: Portrait Submissions
Question if changes are made won't that throw what players might be using as a pic out of sync? You have one person's face one day and wake up to find it is a different person the next day as pics have been shifted?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 312 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:32
Re: Portrait Submissions
I don't think we can tell how many characters are using a specific portrait, sadly, which means we can't know for sure how many people would potentially be affected. However, we already technically do this when we delete duplicates and replace them with a new upload, because that also affects anyone using that particular portrait.

Fortunately (in this case), it's a slow process that doesn't happen often, so we could just make an announcement, maybe, along with the regular gallery update.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 320 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 15:22
Re: Portrait Submissions
I don't really understand how this works, obviously, but hypothetically speaking...

If you changed a portrait's categorization (NOT deleting it), from say 'fmg123' to 'mmg123', wouldn't that just change the image that people are using from one label to the other, without removing the image?

I understand that when you delete and replace an image, that changes it - if you go to bed with fmg123 being a blonde lady, and wake up to fmg123 being a brunette because the previous image in the 'slot' has been removed and replaced with another one, but it seems to reason (to my non-technical mind at least) that changing the 'slot' shouldn't bork people's portraits - it should just change the numeric designator for the image they're using, resulting in going to bed with a blonde labeled fmg123 and waking up to the same blonde labeled fmc789.

Deleting and replacing images doesn't feel good to me, though, unless you could tell that absolutely no one was using an image. Even in the case of duplicates, because someone is probably using that duplicate if just because that's the first version of the portrait they came across - and sometimes what looks like an exact duplicate isn't -quite- the same. The lighting might be better, or it might be a smidge higher resolution. Unless the image is 100% identical, like someone accidentally submitted the exact same portrait twice, I feel like we should probably let them stay. (And definitely announce when it's been done, if it happens, down to providing the numbers for the removed image so that people know there's an out-of-order new image to check out, and the numbers for the duplicate that stayed, so that people that lost their portrait know where to find the other one without having to go hunting.)

Same goes for re-ordering what looks like wrong gender applications. Yeah, there are several female portraits in the males, and several males in the females, but those ones are pretty ambiguous and only obvious if you know exactly who the subject in the portrait is, and in some cases trying to re-order them would lead you down the slippery slope of defining someone's gender identity. That feels like a sleeping dog that's probably best left to lie.
Shannara
 moderator, 3865 posts
 When in doubt,
 frolic!
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 15:24
Re: Portrait Submissions
A suggestion - when I moved portraits, what I would do is put up a placeholder PC  (ie, a silhouette with 'use FFD112' as text over the silhouette to direct users to the new pic') and then replace the placeholder eventually with a new pic so that there were no gaps in the gallery.

Of course, this will effect games that are no longer in use, as players have left the game or may never go back and change the portrait, but it IS a potential solution.

Just offering it up, should the current portrait editor(s) decide on reorganization.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 313 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 16:30
Re: Portrait Submissions
Thanks, Shannara; that's a great idea, actually, should we need to use it.

WRT to moving portraits around: AFAIK, the system calls to file addresses by name, not to a location (or "slot") with variable contents. Warrax does the uploads and can correct me if I'm wrong.

WRT duplicates: Images are considered to be dupes when there's no real discernible difference between the two. Any portrait of the same person, character, object, etc. from a different angle, with different lighting, and so on is treated as a totally discrete entity. Dupes usually result from someone sending the exact same file in (typically one they've already modified, themselves, down to 100 x 100 and < 5kb) multiple times. Perhaps because they didn't see that their first submission was uploaded, or maybe because it wound up in a category they didn't check, they submit it again. Using that example, I might look at it and not realize I've already passed that exact picture along to Warrax the month before last, so it winds up getting added a second time.

WRT portrait gender: If we consider moving, for example, a feminine portrait out of a masculine gallery or vice-versa, then I assure you it's only to agree with a known gender identity. That is, if somehow a picture of person A, who definitively and publicly identifies himself as male, is spotted in female/modern/rugged and can be unambiguously recognized as that person, then we might conceivably move it out of respect for person A. That's why we might take a recommendation under advisement, but it's not something we're doing on the regular.
jase
 admin, 3776 posts
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 Carpe stultus!
Fri 28 Aug 2020
at 09:25
Re: Portrait Submissions
The saved portrait ("fmg123") relates to the image being use ("fmg123.jpg").  There's no mapping done as there's a direct correlation between the portrait name and the file name.  So moving images around messes with the reference.

Additionally remember that the portrait in use is saved as part of the thread.  When you view a character's post it doesn't look up their current portrait (bio or even posts) -- it references (within the data of the post) the portrait used at the time of the post.

This allows for characters to change/develop over time while not retroactively suddenly changing every single old post.  More importantly it allows for characters to be removed from the game without suddenly losing all the post information.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 324 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 15:53
Re: Portrait Submissions
*eagerly awaits August's portrait upload!*
Shannara
 moderator, 3868 posts
 When in doubt,
 frolic!
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 16:09
Re: Portrait Submissions
A small announcement, just in case:

The male portraits (at least) will be moving from my web hosting to rpol's in the next few days.  Hopefully the move will be done before my hosting expires, but just in case it doesn't ... don't worry.  The male portraits will be back up as soon as jase has time IF there is any downtime.

I've enjoyed hosting the male gallery, but I no longer need any sort of website myself, and I just don't have the desire to maintain it as any active site should be maintained for security purposes.

updated - the move is complete and there will be no outage

This message was last edited by the user at 21:55, Fri 04 Sept.

Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 314 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 17:41
Re: Portrait Submissions
Thank you so much for hosting it all this time, Shannara! <3
Warrax
 subscriber, 279 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 20:42
Re: Portrait Submissions
Quick update. We have all the portraits for this last cycle. I'm moving, so it's taking a touch longer than I'd like, but they will be up shortly, in case anyone was wondering.

Sorry for the delay!
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 325 posts
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 20:56
Re: Portrait Submissions
Sweet - thanks for the heads up! Have a safe move. =)
sacmarvelrpg
 member, 4 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 19:47
Re: Portrait Submissions
Looking forward to it-- and many thanks!
Warrax
 subscriber, 280 posts
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 15:31
Re: Portrait Submissions
Just a quick update.  Our process is temporarily a little different now that portraits have been moved to a different location, so there will be a further delay for at least this month. That said, portraits are queued for upload and I'll let everyone know once that happens, and then again once things get back to normal.

Apologies for the delay, this won't last for too long.
sacmarvelrpg
 member, 5 posts
Sun 13 Sep 2020
at 22:39
Re: Portrait Submissions
In reply to Warrax (msg # 361):

No problem, thanks for the heads up.
drew0500
 member, 200 posts
 D&D Gamer
 Eclipse Classless
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 00:27
Re: Portrait Submissions
Is it a simple ftp process or something far more complicated? I'd imagine ftp would be an easy upload and managing it would be simple. Especially if the portraits are already conformed to the specs.
Warrax
 subscriber, 281 posts
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 02:15
Re: Portrait Submissions
The new portraits are now up!

Female
 - 1 Warrior
 - 5 Casual

Male
 - 1 Demihuman
 - 1 Rugged
 - 1 Sci-fi Human

Neutral
 - 1 Monster
 - 1 Demihuman
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 331 posts
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 02:30
Re: Portrait Submissions
Danke, sirs! =)
Sotalia
 member, 189 posts
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 02:57
Re: Portrait Submissions
In reply to Warrax (msg # 364):

My friend sent in a portrait which didn't make it into this upload. If it was because she missed the deadline, does that mean it will make it into the next upload? Or should she resubmit the portrait?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 315 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 03:00
Re: Portrait Submissions
If you miss the submission deadline, then your portrait will be part of the next batch, as long as there were no other problems with it (like leaving off your RPoL username, etc.).
Warrax
 subscriber, 283 posts
Wed 30 Sep 2020
at 19:41
Re: Portrait Submissions
Latest round of portraits are up.

Female

3x Casual
1x Sci-fi Human

Neutral

1x Demihuman

Male

1x 17th Century
1x 20th Century
2x Casual
1x Gangster
1x Sci-fi Alien
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 335 posts
Wed 30 Sep 2020
at 20:16
Re: Portrait Submissions
1x Male Soldier, also. =)

Thanks for getting those in!
Warrax
 subscriber, 284 posts
Wed 30 Sep 2020
at 20:18
Re: Portrait Submissions
Ah yes, the Captain America portrait, thank you for catching that this was also added :)
tibiotarsus
 member, 193 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Wed 30 Sep 2020
at 23:33
Re: Portrait Submissions
Not to be a killjoy on the perfect portrait front, but maybe there should be some kind of notice somewhere to make sure newcomers don't think they have to submit their own specific portrait to play? Only the latest few casual ladies are really similar to the ones on the first page of the gallery in terms of "Hollywood average" mid-20s Caucasians rather than useful-for-everyone additions like girls, old shopkeep types and everyone we don't have already.

Could just be people who couldn't be bothered to check or who find a nose tilted a bit differently to be a dealbreaker, but eh...it's just vaguely frustrating as a GM when you have to make everyone's mothers have "a young-looking face", for instance, or not make proper NPC slots for some people who can't be represented by a pretty white twentysomething (and by the time an appropriate portrait clears the system the game might've moved on from their entire town). </ramble>

A related thought - Are users encouraged to submit tags with new portraits (as suggestions) so they could be copied over and searchable at once, or would that not actually help at all with how the upload system works?
Warrax
 subscriber, 285 posts
Wed 30 Sep 2020
at 23:54
Re: Portrait Submissions
People are encouraged to submit portraits for all different variables. We're not really selecting for what people want to submit on that front, nor will we begin to do so. Diversity has been something of a challenge over time for sure, but people will submit what they want to and that's what we've got to work with. There is also the fact that there are portraits scattered all about with what you want. The act of cleaning up the entire library of portraits isn't anything likely to happen any time soon, so ear-marking portraits for future use is of some value.

Good thoughts. Nothing we haven't run into before, but a perpetual trial for GMs and players alike, to be sure. The best thing is to just start submitting portraits of various sorts even if you don't need them for a specific character. Eventually, the selection will improve.
SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 336 posts
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 00:38
Re: Portrait Submissions
If you're patient enough to dig through literally every portrait, you can find just about anything you might want. Just about.

...unless you want a specific person, because that's the person you envision for the character. It's shocking sometimes to realize just how many portraits there are of some people, while there are none (or practically none) of others. I can't vouch for why other people submit portraits, but if I'm submitting one it's usually because I want Specific Person X and there's either nothing of them at all, or what does exist of them is the wrong look - by which I don't mean 'bad lighting' but something like 'wrong hair color or style for the character' (very common with female celebrities, given the frequency of hair color changes...) or 'obviously incorrect age for the character'. The racial and age-range diversity of the portrait collection has really started to grow since submissions started up again. Mixed-race are still a bit more scarce, but I have faith that will grow too.

With regards to NPCs, though, tibio... if you just need a quick reference portrait for an NPC and can't find one/don't have time to submit one, it works pretty well to slap up a 100x100 image (that you host) with a left-align at the top of their posts. It's not a legit 'portrait', but it's close enough for government work. =)
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 316 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 00:46
Re: Portrait Submissions
In reply to SunRuanEr (msg # 373):

That's often what I do for temporary NPCs who don't warrant a persistent profile, or for people who demand a really specific portrait that hasn't made it into the gallery yet.
Warrax
 subscriber, 286 posts
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 01:09
Re: Portrait Submissions
SunRuanEr:
If you're patient enough to dig through literally every portrait, you can find just about anything you might want. ...  It's shocking sometimes to realize just how many portraits there are of some people, while there are none (or practically none) of others.


Yup, that's certainly true. They do come in waves, too, based on what's popular at the time (on and off RPOL).

quote:
The racial and age-range diversity of the portrait collection has really started to grow since submissions started up again. Mixed-race are still a bit more scarce, but I have faith that will grow too.


Yeah, and we're quite happy about that, as it happen.s

quote:
With regards to NPCs, though, tibio... if you just need a quick reference portrait for an NPC and can't find one/don't have time to submit one, it works pretty well to slap up a 100x100 image (that you host) with a left-align at the top of their posts. It's not a legit 'portrait', but it's close enough for government work. =)


Yes, not enough people use the Description section to its best ability, and you can embed images directly into posts from time to time in order to reinforce a particular actor or visualization for your character as well.
tibiotarsus
 member, 194 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 08:18
Re: Portrait Submission
Ha! I talk about polite notices in case the problem isn't bias and y'all go straight for the elephant in the room. All right, I'm not saying to do this, but I will point out that the "super-similar portraits get rejected" rule could be used if the site wanted to trim the ratio of 10,000 blondes to 1 black teen (I'm not sure there is a younger black teen, unless that Indian-looking girl is one - certainly if you're out in Historical, you're stuffed). I assume that would be too much work per month and too much wailing from those who need the eyebrows "right", though, so that observation is just pointing out that a systemic solution is possible, in the same way you're pointing out that if the 2 GMs that aren't playing off-the-peg Eurofantasy do enough shovel work they could maybe catch up in a decade or so. Sure. Both these things are true, but we're both doing stuff voluntarily. I get it. Just saying. Not a dig.

Warrax:
Good thoughts. Nothing we haven't run into before, but a perpetual trial for GMs and players alike, to be sure. The best thing is to just start submitting portraits of various sorts even if you don't need them for a specific character. Eventually, the selection will improve.


This is allowed now? I always had the impression the rules meant you had to submit portraits for folk you immediately needed to play.

As for trawling the galleries, boy howdy have I done a lot of that, and can confirm for instance that we have one (1) teen girl of ambiguous long-haired brownness to be all your Native, Hispanic and Desi characters between 12-16. There is one (1) casual-looking young Desi guy, who might be Mexican. Most of our Aboriginal guys are out in the middle of Male Rugged, but if you want ladies there's a choice of my guide, I think an ambiguous older lady, and...no, that's it. Running a Western, you run out of the entirety of Native portraits with an average party and something like four NPCs, assuming you use that one First Nations lumberjack and say he's on holiday. Want to set something in the Pacific Northwest? Siberia? Well, there's three native Siberians now who can just about pass for Tlingit or something (you're welcome - the boy is stuck out in the modern female category, mind) but otherwise it's like something out of Cannibal! the Musical trying to get people with  the broadest phenotypic traits for the areas. Brought Masks of Nyarlathotep to Egypt? Better not interact with more than a handful of older male locals, or you'll have to talk to that blatantly-a-cultist weirdo out of The Mummy (which I love, but because it is a toasted cheese sandwich) *ahem*

@SunRuan - yeah, it is possible to make fake portraits for non-Young-White-Fashion-model NPCs, but that's kind of like "the back of the bus goes to the same stops", y'know? To reverse that suggestion, why not make Team Perfect Eyebrows use one of the many, many existing portraits and put their ideal version of standard-pretty white lady up big in the description doodad where everyone can see the specific variations of their nose or eyebrows or what have you? At 50x50, I assure you that even if I could tell actors apart...just go for hair colour. Seriously. We don't need the same celeb again with different hair. Not when you can't have anyone from the entire continent of Asia as a player in Kids on Bikes without a month-minimum wait.

There was indeed a little joyous blip of grandmas for everyone, and I was excited, but it seems to have dropped off.

Also, if the suite of NPCs just aren't there ready to grab because people are getting by with the second-class rig-up system and never getting round to putting those portraits in it discourages playing anything other than generic Eurofantasy (or putting anything but north-western Europeans in their Eurofantasy). The wait time for everyone to get portraits in (or the insistence on the copy-paste method) for something like Harlem Unbound would lose you players and maybe sink a game. Then other potential players look about and go "huh, guess they don't play that here" and donate their time/selves to Pathfinder.


Anyway, aside from the elephant - tags? Ease of finding would maybe cut down on the repeats, and if they were coming in with tags that'd make the backlog/effort to tackle same smaller, was my thought.


edit: dodgy descriptor changed for the results of my trying to find a British Asian-looking dude under 40 without a suit.

This message was last edited by the user at 08:28, Thu 01 Oct.

SunRuanEr
 subscriber, 337 posts
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 13:16
Re: Portrait Submission
I don't know what to tell you. If you need something specific that isn't included in the gallery, submit something. That's what submissions are for. The workaround I suggested was for if you didn't have time to wait for a submission to go in before you needed it, or only needed it for a post or two and couldn't justify burning your 1-per-month submission on it. It was not remotely a suggestion that non-white portraits should go 'to the back of the bus' and just be jury-rigged in. /shrug

I understand that the gallery submissions tend to skew towards White-People-Glamour-Shots, but tearing down people who submit what - to them - is the perfect representation of their pretty white blonde girl character that couldn't already be found in the gallery isn't going to get more non-white portraits submitted. If you run or play in games that need something specific that isn't already available in the gallery, submit something. Get your players to submit things, for themselves or for your NPCs if they're willing. Just because you're capped at one portrait a month and it needs to be used (which I have always interpreted as meaning 'assigned to a character, even if that character is a hidden NPC that won't come into actual play for a year') doesn't mean the person that submits it has to be the person using it.

Gallery diversity isn't going to be improved by telling people they can't submit portraits just because they're the same age/skin/hair color of portraits that already exist. You need people to actively submit portraits for (as you put it) 'non-Young-White-Fashion-model' types to do that.
Warrax
 subscriber, 287 posts
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 14:03
Re: Portrait Submission
tibiotarsus:
This is allowed now? I always had the impression the rules meant you had to submit portraits for folk you immediately needed to play.


Please feel free to submit whatever portrait you want to see in the gallery when you make your submission, yes.
bigbadron
 moderator, 15941 posts
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Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 15:12
Re: Portrait Submission
There has never been a conscious effort to produce a gallery with a perfectly diverse set of portraits.

Instead people were told that, due to space limitations (and the fact that the galleries were (until very recently) hosted on volunteer-provided servers, and paid for by those same volunteers) they should ONLY submit images for characters that they, personally, intended to play.

So if nobody was planning to play a character from (for example) Papua New Guinea, then there would not be any such portraits submitted (while still allowing for somebody to submit one if they did plan to use such a character).
Warrax
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Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 15:35
Re: Portrait Submission
bigbadron:
There has never been a conscious effort to produce a gallery with a perfectly diverse set of portraits.

Instead people were told that, due to space limitations (and the fact that the galleries were (until very recently) hosted on volunteer-provided servers, and paid for by those same volunteers) they should ONLY submit images for characters that they, personally, intended to play.


Yeah, the portrait system was a lot of Shannara bossing out and doing what she could as a one-person show until what, a couple of years ago? So we're slowly trying to handle things a little differently now that we've the resources to do it.
tibiotarsus
 member, 195 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 18:26
Re: Portrait Submission
Warrax:
<quote tibiotarsus>Please feel free to submit whatever portrait you want to see in the gallery when you make your submission, yes.


Sweet! Longterm plotting to give this site the ability to run a certain game hopefully coming out next year commences...I may have a comrade to help with the MoN issues.


SunRuan, it looks like there's a bit of cross-purposes here: you're talking about single PCs, I'm talking about GMs having the ability to play in a setting with relative ease. I'm already doing my best, but at 1 portrait a month it's like...there's stuff you literally can't do (I'd mention settings I'd like to run but it'd probably count as an ad). I'm sorry you feel torn down by having non-white/young/Hollywood ladies take up slots that could be used for a new hairstyle, that wasn't my intention, but we honestly have so many of those ladies the hairstyles probably exist already if the new submitters did the searching there was an implication I hadn't. ...and would be easier to find if tagged. Hence the tag helping query, because I would love to help.

I mean, I also like things to be efficient, and submitting portraits only useful for oneself in a limited system seems inefficient for the system as a whole, which is why I haven't flooded the system with native Siberians, instead providing our only historical Asiatic mum-age lady and a couple of kids in Russianised clothing people can pretend are several ethnicities.

As BBR said, no-one's suggesting - or has ever suggested - we make the gallery diverse just because Planet Earth, Sol System, is, but a better range of humans breaks the loop of having a few well-worn stories it's easy to tell and everyone else having to work twice as hard with shoddier materials (which means those stories get shoved to the back burner because who wants to work on their fun time, which means it's easier to talk about mediaeval England, but Potatoes, Again, etc. etc.). More communally-available variety causes no problems, whilst more of things we have already objectively pads out the size of the haystack at least some GMs are patiently fishing needles from in a system that's struggling with its search capacities.

If you don't know what to say to me, please don't. I only wanted to ask a question/make a suggestion about gallery efficiency, and Warrax is very patient with such (thank you).
Warrax
 subscriber, 289 posts
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 18:28
Re: Portrait Submission
tibiotarsus:
but at 1 portrait a month it's like...there's stuff you literally can't do


Just for clarity, you can submit a portrait whether you need it for a current (N)PC or not, but we are sticking to the 1 portrait per cycle limitation.

As always, we appreciate the feedback the community gives us and we're happy to work within given constraints to try and make the gallery a better tool for everyone here on the site. It's been awesome for us over the years, so it's nice to be able to give back a little :)
tibiotarsus
 member, 196 posts
 Hopepunk with a shovel
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 20:19
Re: Portrait Submission
Absoloutely understood (longterm plotting is longterm, yes), and again, thank you for being patient, approachable, and doing a sterling job with enthusiasm. It's deeply appreciated and I'll get off your update thread now.
El Taco Taco
 member, 1 post
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 18:14
Re: Portrait Submission
Really glad that portrait submissions are back up and running. :) The lack of custom portraits was my biggest pain point in running games here, so having these submissions open again is greatly appreciated.

Would there be any way we could get a confirmation reply that the portrait has been received or if it's been rejected? Given that we can only submit one a month, it's a little disappointing to submit a portrait, see it not go up, and then have to spend another month submitting it again. I know I try to triple check that I've done it right, but this has happened to me multiple times now, even when I'm dead certain I didn't mess up.

I've got a folder of several portraits I'm working through, and at this rate, it'll be well over a year before I can get them uploaded ):

I can imagine it's just as frustrating for y'all to get the same portrait or the same mistake over and over too. I feel like this would go a long way for improving both sides of the process, even if it's just a 'hey, this is after the submission date for this month so it's going up next month' or 'sorry, it's being rejected because XYZ'.

Thanks for the consideration!
RosstoFalstaff
 member, 195 posts
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 19:07
Re: Portrait Submission
In reply to El Taco Taco (msg # 384):

Imagine having to write a short answer line for hundreds of pictures, on top of the work the uploaders already are doing.

It might seem like a small amount of effort for you, but that's partially because you WANT this outcome.
El Taco Taco
 member, 2 posts
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 19:59
Re: Portrait Submission
I mean, yeah, I have no idea how much is going on behind the scenes or how it's done Į\_(ツ)_/Į All I have to go on numbers wise is the number of portraits reported as uploaded, which has seemed to be about a dozen a shot lately.

If it's more work than it's worth, then I have no problem with that not being implemented. But as it is an outcome that I would, in fact, like to see, I figured I'd ask to see if it could accommodated.
Warrax
 subscriber, 290 posts
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 19:59
Re: Portrait Submission
No harm in asking.  We will discuss it and see what's what.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 317 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 17:25
Re: Portrait Submission
@El Taco Taco your portrait actually was uploaded, it's #930 in male/modern/casual.
Varsovian
 member, 1517 posts
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 22:18
Re: Portrait Submission
Hey guys, a question: if I submit a portrait tomorrow or on Tuesday, when - more or less - will it appear in the gallery?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 318 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 22:23
Re: Portrait Submission
In reply to Varsovian (msg # 389):

Today's the 11th, so it would go in the next batch that's scheduled to be uploaded before the end of this month, which means if all goes well it would be available no later than October 31st.

This coming Wednesday, the 14th, is the cutoff date for the current cycle, so anything received by then will be included in the current batch, and anything received starting at 12:01am Thursday will be part of the next.
Varsovian
 member, 1518 posts
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 23:19
Re: Portrait Submission
Thanks! Should the portrait be submitted in 100x100 size, or do you do the resizing yourself? Do you do any retouching etc. to the images to make them more clear, or do you upload them as submitted?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 319 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 23:31
Re: Portrait Submission
You're welcome to just send in the image you want and I'll cut it down and polish it for the gallery upload.

If you want to do the editing yourself, then the final product needs to be a 100x100 pixel JPEG file less than 5kb in size, and it should look as clear and high-quality as you can make it. In cases where users submit already-altered files, I do sometimes try to brighten or sharpen them a bit if they look fuzzy, if I can, but otherwise it's whatever you send us.
El Taco Taco
 member, 3 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 17:51
Re: Portrait Submission
In reply to Morgan Coldsoul (msg # 388):

I did see that, thanks!

My pain point was when I checked the thread for the update of which portraits had been uploaded the following month, it wasn't listed as included in that batch. I didn't actually ever see it included in the list of uploads the following month, either. I only happened to stumble across the fact it was uploaded by chance.

I was fairly sure I had submitted it in time for the month's batch. (This was months ago, so I could absolutely be wrong about the timing, I have no idea what day is what anymore.)

It's been the same experience with every portrait I've submitted, and while it could absolutely be a matter of timing, the lack of response and 2 month long delay does leave me feeling a bit like I'm just shouting into the void.
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 320 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 18:53
Re: Portrait Submission
The submission in question was received and processed in August and uploaded in September, after the delay caused by the server migration. There was an announcement that includes 1 male rugged portrait which is what it was originally tagged as in processing, but somehow it wound up in casual at the end. My guess is that was simply an oversight in the announcement, and a male rugged entry was listed rather than the male casual to which it was changed. Seems like probably just a bookkeeping error, which is bound to happen from time to time.

I can't speak to similar experiences you may have had, just encourage everyone to always double-check that you included your username, that the file is an embed or attachment, and that you only submit one per cycle if you want to be sure that one is the one to go through.
Doji Hoturi
 member, 39 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 18:30
Re: Portrait Submission
Did you already put up the submissions from late September/ early October been posted?
Warrax
 subscriber, 291 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 18:59
Re: Portrait Submission
Anything that was approved before October has been posted.

The October profiles are in a pending state right, but I've definitely submitted them. As soon as jase gets back to me, I'll get them sorted into the gallery.
Doji Hoturi
 member, 40 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 04:29
Re: Portrait Submission
Ah, okay. Sweet. Thank you!
Warrax
 subscriber, 292 posts
Fri 6 Nov 2020
at 17:10
Re: Portrait Submission
Okay, October portraits are now in the gallery!

2x Male 19th Century
1x Male Casual
1x Male Business

1x Neutral Demihuman

1x Female Monster
2x Female Demihuman
3x Female Warrior
2x Female Casual
1x Female Sci-fi Human

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to list the Male Business portrait because I can't count.  Hurr hurr.  It's definitely there, though.

This message was last edited by the user at 11:44, Sun 08 Nov.

Boogs
 member, 7 posts
 I do boogie consistently.
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Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 17:54
Re: Portrait Submission
SO I'm a little confused about the portrait submission process.

I definitely play POCs, to better represent people that look like me, and had submitted a relatively high-quality, 100x100 picture back in September. It's been two rounds of portrait submissions, and I don't see them. I followed the submission rules, and was hoping to take that time every month to submit a portrait for one of my active characters. Why else would they not have been submitted in this round of submissions?
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 321 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Sun 8 Nov 2020
at 02:19
Re: Portrait Submission
In reply to Boogs (msg # 399):

Obviously don't know for certain which image might be the one in question, but looking back at the three most recent uploads, it seems to me (at a glance) that all the valid submissions which might fall into that category were uploaded. If you want to describe or appropriately link the pic so I know exactly what I'm looking for, I can at least verify whether or not it was in any of those batches.

It's possible that it may have simply ended up in a gallery you weren't expecting. If it was attached or embedded, the email had your RPoL username in it somewhere, and the image wasn't a duplicate or didn't violate any other rules, then I don't know why it wouldn't have made it in unless it got caught in the spam folder and I didn't see it in time. That seems unlikely to have happened two or three months in a row, however, since I may not check it every time I log in, but it is checked. We also don't have any holds in the inbox, so even if it was delayed, it ought to be in so long as it met the criteria.
Starchaser
 member, 762 posts
Sun 8 Nov 2020
at 10:33
Re: Portrait Submission
A long time ago I uploaded a female image and they got classified as male (presumably because they had short hair) so it does happen that portraits can go into the categories that you least expect them to be in.
Jarodemo
 member, 880 posts
 My hovercraft
 is full of eels
Sun 8 Nov 2020
at 16:47
Re: Portrait Submission
In reply to Starchaser (msg # 401):

Yes. The person doing the coding will select what they see as the best fit, so a rogue might be a warrior, or a female might be a male. Sometimes you just need to do a bit of a search to find it.
Boogs
 member, 8 posts
 I do boogie consistently.
 Consistently boogie I do.
Mon 9 Nov 2020
at 14:16
Re: Portrait Submission
I appreciate the flood of responses.

I searched through each of the categories twice just to be sure. Perhaps I'm simply blind, but I don't see it. Here's a link to what I'm using now, keeping in mind that what I had sent in was a headshot.

https://i.imgur.com/SIYW4a3.jpg?1
Warrax
 subscriber, 293 posts
Mon 9 Nov 2020
at 14:42
Re: Portrait Submission
I don't see that portrait going back to uploads from October of 2019.

Maybe it got filtered because it's too much of a body shot and not face? Normally we just crop those pretty tight and they end up looking kind of like garbage, but Morgan can speak more to that. But yeah, I don't see anything like that going back like a year. As far as what I've uploaded, I mean.

This message was last edited by the user at 14:43, Mon 09 Nov.

Boogs
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Mon 9 Nov 2020
at 15:14
Re: Portrait Submission
In reply to Warrax (msg # 404):

As I thought. Appreciate you looking in to that.
ike I said before, I had sent a headshot. I will send it again.
Warrax
 subscriber, 294 posts
Mon 9 Nov 2020
at 15:18
Re: Portrait Submission
Awesome!
Morgan Coldsoul
 member, 322 posts
 29+ years RP experience
 I'll forget again later
Tue 10 Nov 2020
at 23:45
Re: Portrait Submission
In reply to Boogs (msg # 403):

Yeah, it's not one I remember seeing, either. I also just checked the inbox and don't see an email from you or any emails including that image, just FYI.