Zandercon
 member, 7 posts
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 12:13
Playing poker
a couple of my player would like to play a game of 5 card stud.  to keep it fair I was looking for a way to use the dice system.  does anyone know of a way or better way to do this.
Dream Sequence
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Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 13:10
Playing poker
The RPoL die roller has options under "system" for drawing randomly from a deck of 52 (no jokers) and 54 (with jokers).  You'd just have to keep an eye to make sure none of the cards you randomly roll are duplicated of ones you'd already rolled since the last "in-character" shuffle of the deck.
drewalt
 subscriber, 109 posts
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 13:41
Playing poker
The problem with the card puller in the dice roller is there's no option for drawing without replacement on subsequent rolls.  I play a lot of games on site where this is actually a problem but if you just accept it, it works okay.  It's not quite the same obviously but it functions, but it's really not going to be accurate at all.

If it's a one off thing, it may be best to accept the limitations of the dice roller and say "okay we're going to play X number of hands, with a reshuffle between hands" and whoever wins best out of X wins the game.  That may be close enough for the purpose.  It leads to the possibility they may both get the 7 of Hearts (unlikely) or duplicate hands (very, very unlikely), so it's not really accurate but it should work well enough.

In game you could possibly justify it as they're playing with multiple decks mixed together if it really bothers you.  It's not completely unheard of, even though it isn't actually poker if you have more than one deck.  I understand some casinos will use 2 decks mixed together for poker games because it makes the game go faster (casinos get paid for hosting so the more games played the more money they make).  Or some people do it for fun, like if you're playing poker with 8+ people at once and don't want to run multiple games.

Another possibility might be, if you wanted to do this much work, is the GM pulls all of the cards in one secret roll and puts it in a spreadsheet.  Then the players roll off to see who gets dealt cards first (so you mark off the first five cards in the spreadsheet and PM that player the cards the player got, then you mark off the second and notify the second player, etc.)  You could more or less simulate an actual game that way but it'd be really tedious.

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Zandercon
 member, 8 posts
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 15:20
Playing poker
In reply to drewalt (msg # 3):

yeah I was thinking the Gm could do the rolling but that is a lot of work.  its not so much about the cards as it is a game of bluffing.  its hard to play a bluffing game (even if your good a keeping ooc info ooc) when you know what cards each of you have.  thanks for the help
jase
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Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 15:31
Playing poker
In reply to Zandercon (msg # 4):

Secret rolls will take care of that.  As long as you're not trying to bluff the GM!  (c;
liblarva
 member, 636 posts
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 17:34
Playing poker
As mentioned, one secret roll by the GM and just paste that into a hidden post in the game. No need for a spreadsheet.

Another option is have the GM use a real deck in meatspace. As long as it doesn't get shuffled when it shouldn't you're fine.
Prince of Boredom
 member, 10 posts
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 20:43
Playing poker
Just to throw my 2 cents in, I'd recommend the GM actually do a 52 card draw, just to know how all of the cards are situated in the deck, to cover things like to people trading in their cards for new ones, depending on the type of poker they're playing.
Zandercon
 member, 9 posts
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 20:58
Playing poker
In reply to Prince of Boredom (msg # 7):

I agree.  I was just hoping someone knew an easier way. thanks
Gaffer
 member, 1638 posts
 Ocoee FL
 45 yrs of RPGs
Mon 10 Aug 2020
at 01:52
Playing poker
It's pretty simple for five card stud. GM draws the cards in a single roll and records them, then deals them one-by-one to the players, first card open and subsequent cards in private lines. seven card stud would work just as well. Draw gets a bit trickier, but could be done as PoB suggests.
Zag24
 supporter, 650 posts
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 01:47
Playing poker
Wouldn't it be the other way around?  In 5-card stud, the first card to each player is down -- that is, hidden so that only that player can see it, so it would be a private line.  All the remaining cards are face up.
Gaffer
 member, 1639 posts
 Ocoee FL
 45 yrs of RPGs
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 19:01
Playing poker
In reply to Zag24 (msg # 10):

Yes, of course you're right.