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OOC 3.

Posted by SSOGMFor group archive 0
SSOGM
GM, 807 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 17 Dec 2022
at 19:46
  • msg #1

OOC 3

At this point, we'll be over two thousand OOC posts. Therefore, here there be three.
Winter Herald
player, 392 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 17 Dec 2022
at 19:56
  • msg #2

OOC 3

Yay, three.

Anyhow, I'm aware of the lack of entry points under the surface. I was saving that for Garcia, and anyone with him.

My point of entry remains the same. It is simply planning how to do it quietly that is up for grabs... although if the vegetation is prohibitive enough to organics, they might be depending on that if I'm lucky. Could mean the hatch isn't locked, and I can just enter quiet.

Of course, pigs might fly over the island and distract the enemy, too. That's just as likely.
JUSTICAR
player, 1141 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sat 17 Dec 2022
at 22:20
  • msg #3

OOC 3

I am now less than 2k xp from level 6!  hehe!
Runa
player, 182 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 17 Dec 2022
at 22:44
  • msg #4

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
I am now less than 2k xp from level 6!  hehe!

That's great!
Senor Garcia
player, 153 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 02:16
  • msg #5

Re: OOC 3

I will be working on a post tonight.
Runa
player, 183 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 20:33
  • msg #6

Re: OOC 3

Probably can't post until late tonight or tomorrow. Sorry.
JUSTICAR
player, 1145 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 19 Dec 2022
at 20:49
  • msg #7

OOC 3

No biggie... this firecracker is lit!!!
JUSTICAR
player, 1146 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 20 Dec 2022
at 10:34
  • msg #8

OOC 3

Damn Belle your awesome!
Bellissima
player, 482 posts
ISP 40/156
HP::23/23
Tue 20 Dec 2022
at 15:52
  • msg #9

OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 8):

SSOGM might still determine I can't do all of that.  Depends on how many mechanical parts there are involved. :)  And how interconnected the security system is.
Bellissima
player, 485 posts
ISP 40/156
HP::23/23
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 05:01
  • msg #10

OOC 3

Hey Runa, can Runa return ISP points to someone?  I don't think so, but thought I would ask. :)
JUSTICAR
player, 1152 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 05:13
  • msg #11

OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 10):

Yeah THIS... is why the op was supposed to go at 02:00... at least 8 or so hours AFTER sunset to give Belle time to regen her power...
Runa
player, 186 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 05:14
  • msg #12

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima:
Hey Runa, can Runa return ISP points to someone?  I don't think so, but thought I would ask. :)

Sorry no, that's not part of her power set. That would be cool if she could do that!
Bellissima
player, 486 posts
ISP 40/156
HP::23/23
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 06:13
  • msg #13

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Sorry no, that's not part of her power set. That would be cool if she could do that!


Was pretty sure that was the answer, and it would have been very cool! :)
JUSTICAR
player, 1154 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 11:40
  • msg #14

OOC 3

Winter posted right before I could post the map layout...
JUSTICAR
player, 1155 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 13:45
  • msg #15

OOC 3

Relaoded image better?
Bellissima
player, 487 posts
ISP 40/156
HP::23/23
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 14:39
  • msg #16

OOC 3

Whoops, missed your post about the voices to the south, Maharaja, I apologize for that.
SSOGM
GM, 814 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 15:25
  • msg #17

OOC 3

There are no voices mentioned, or used, in what The Maharaja was NPC'ed as doing.
Bellissima
player, 488 posts
ISP 40/156
HP::23/23
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 15:37
  • msg #18

OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 17):

Right, the sounds to the south.
SSOGM
GM, 815 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 20:28
  • msg #19

OOC 3

No sounds were mentioned, either. The Maharaja waved to get everyone's attention, held up three fingers, and pointed south.
JUSTICAR
player, 1156 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 21:07
  • msg #20

OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 19):

Does Justicar find the cabin and head empty?
SSOGM
GM, 816 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 22 Dec 2022
at 21:42
  • msg #21

OOC 3

I made an error in my post. I posted
[Secret to JUSTICER: There is no one in the cabin or the head. Nothing adorns the walls and floor, there is a small duffel bag in one corner of the room, and tatami mats on the floor in lieu of furniture. Other than a few scraps of paper with non-sensical kanji on them, nothing in the room reveals any secrets.]
instead of
[Secret to JUSTICAR: There is no one in the cabin or the head. Nothing adorns the walls and floor, there is a small duffel bag in one corner of the room, and tatami mats on the floor in lieu of furniture. Other than a few scraps of paper with non-sensical kanji on them, nothing in the room reveals any secrets.]


When it's not revealed with code tags, this looks like
I made an error in my post. I posted
[Secret to JUSTICER: There is no one in the cabin or the head. Nothing adorns the walls and floor, there is a small duffel bag in one corner of the room, and tatami mats on the floor in lieu of furniture. Other than a few scraps of paper with non-sensical kanji on them, nothing in the room reveals any secrets.]
instead of
[Secret to JUSTICAR: There is no one in the cabin or the head. Nothing adorns the walls and floor, there is a small duffel bag in one corner of the room, and tatami mats on the floor in lieu of furniture. Other than a few scraps of paper with non-sensical kanji on them, nothing in the room reveals any secrets.]
Bellissima
player, 490 posts
ISP 40/156
HP::23/23
Fri 23 Dec 2022
at 06:17
  • msg #22

OOC 3

Winter Herald, Runa, Maharaja, any of you feel free to go before Bellissima.  She is going to stay back as much as possible.
Runa
player, 187 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 00:02
  • msg #23

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima:
Winter Herald, Runa, Maharaja, any of you feel free to go before Bellissima.  She is going to stay back as much as possible.

Ok thanks. I'm guessing that we all know the attack is on?
Bellissima
player, 492 posts
ISP 10/156
HP::23/23
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 00:04
  • msg #24

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 23):

Yup, the fight is on and had Bellissima go because of that, even if she is giving herself a major headache. ;)
Winter Herald
player, 398 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 01:27
  • msg #25

Re: OOC 3

Five bad guys on the map, but six rolled initiative. I knew I had a good reason for remaining in the wings.
Runa
player, 188 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 07:04
  • msg #26

Re: OOC 3

Been a long day gang. I'll post something now. Hopefully won't be too terrible and will make sense.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:15, Sat 24 Dec 2022.
Runa
player, 191 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 16:35
  • msg #27

Re: OOC 3

Posting from my phone so short and without much frills. Sorry.
JUSTICAR
player, 1163 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 18:36
  • msg #28

OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 24):

Hey Belle..you've got one action to try to incapacitate Provider before he tries to mind control someone... choose wisely!
Bellissima
player, 493 posts
ISP 10/156
HP::23/23
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 19:27
  • msg #29

OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 28):

You mean roll good, because I don't have much choice. :)
Runa
player, 192 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 20:17
  • msg #30

OOC 3

OK so the Whisperer is apparently a Juicer, judging by our inability to hit her. Still, if she is too busy dodging us, she isn’t launching her own attacks.
JUSTICAR
player, 1164 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sat 24 Dec 2022
at 20:45
  • msg #31

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 30):

Yeah she at least is at our level of skill if not more cause those mods she is rockin' are darn near just as high as Justicar's!  She's Dangeroeus... and I bet she just went incorporeal!

EDIT:  Then again... she used all her actions to dodge... rather than 'Automatic parry' all those melee attacks spending no actions... which might indicate she has NO Hand to Hand skill at all!
This message was last edited by the player at 23:42, Sat 24 Dec 2022.
SSOGM
GM, 822 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 01:00
  • msg #32

Re: OOC 3

Actually, The Whisperer has an automatic dodge. Her actions were used to vibrate till she's insubstantial. Her high bonuses are a combination of her powers, numerous physical skills, and a high PP.
If you think Whisperer is cool, wait till you see Moppet... again.
JUSTICAR
player, 1165 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 01:12
  • msg #33

OOC 3

No shit?  Damn...think your right Runa... she is a Juicer!
Bellissima
player, 495 posts
ISP 6/156
HP::23/23
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 02:42
  • msg #34

OOC 3

Hopefully Bellissima activated her See the Invisible power in time to catch what Moppet is up to.
JUSTICAR
player, 1166 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 03:00
  • msg #35

OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 34):

Considering Moppet's name... and the fact SSOGM... makes a point to repeat how light the attack feels coming at Belle... I think its a toy.  Moppet is puppeteering in some fashion a toy to attack Belle.. maybe?!? 'shrug'
This message was last edited by the player at 03:00, Sun 25 Dec 2022.
Bellissima
player, 496 posts
ISP 6/156
HP::23/23
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 03:08
  • msg #36

OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 35):

I was thinking that Moppet can shrink to toy size, which is why the attack feels light.
SSOGM
GM, 824 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 04:19
  • msg #37

OOC 3

Moppet's another neat one. Shrinking without losing mass, insect-like wings, and the ability to be weightless at will.
Winter Herald
player, 400 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 05:41
  • msg #38

OOC 3

If my experience with comic book shrinkers is any indication, Moppet has the potential to hit really hard. Then again, I haven't yet read shrinking in Palladium, and I'll do it after this post.

Also, I'm curious - does Winter Herald still have a bead on Trishula? At this point, my radar is up, so he'd have to have a really good vanishing spell, like that bad boy Goliat had been using.
SSOGM
GM, 825 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 12:53
  • msg #39

OOC 3

He's not using superior invisibility (there's actually a sixteen year old argument on the palladium forums concerning that spell), just the one that makes someone invisible to normal sight. For Winter Herald, he would be visible to infrared, ultraviolet, and radar.
Bellissima
player, 497 posts
ISP 6/156
HP::23/23
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 13:37
  • msg #40

OOC 3

Merry Christmas!
JUSTICAR
player, 1167 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 15:05
  • msg #41

OOC 3

I'm sort of waiting for CMZ to act before I capitalize on Dr. Phage's disorientation and take him into custody...
JUSTICAR
player, 1168 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 15:52
  • msg #42

OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 39):

Except right now in the cloud of darkness does that hinder non-normal sight like IR, UV?  Radar of course still works...
SSOGM
GM, 826 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 16:05
  • msg #43

OOC 3

It's a cloud of smoke. As if from a smoke grenade, but generated by magic.
JUSTICAR
player, 1170 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 18:10
  • msg #44

OOC 3

Hope I'm not 'assuming ' too much both Trishula and Dr. Phage horribly failed their toxin saves to resist his stun gun {blaster} shots ~ so should be at -10 to parry, dodge, or strike... Justicar should have little trouble grabbing and restraining them... I hope?
Runa
player, 193 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 18:23
  • msg #45

OOC 3

Ok so not only does the Whisperer have Auto-Dodge, she is apparently intangible too.

I'm open to suggestions on what to have Runa do next.
JUSTICAR
player, 1171 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 18:33
  • msg #46

OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 45):

Well.. typically in Palladium.. Intangibility is not total.  Usually the vulnerabilities are based off the source of the intangibility...be it transformation into a energy form or perhaps actual intangibility.  In whisperer's case she is not solid...because she is vibrating her molecules to a high frequency to be semi-incorporeal, but she is still there she Still has particles.. matter simply can pass through her.

So use attacks that attack the particles of her body directly like electricity or perhaps fire or sonic.  Psionic attacks will work just fine... but I understand Belle is practically empty of ISP right now.

Also she may still need to breathe so there is that. Also her senses are likely still vulnerable to attack.

Sorry that Justicar is the only one who really has energy attacks of different varieties... and the Bio-ship ate my KO Gas grenade I fired at her.

Though you all have a single Stun/Flash grenade each... that might work on her? Loud bang, bright flash... of course, your all clustered around her currently.

But don't sweat it. she goes on Intv 22...so she will probably leave since none of you can hinder her movement ~ None of us can prevent that.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:46, Sun 25 Dec 2022.
Runa
player, 194 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 18:57
  • msg #47

OOC 3

Yah, don't think Runa's abilities can effect anyone intangible regardless of method. Pure GM call on that. Even if if she can use power touch, it would require her to actually TOUCH the target. Since she has effectively proven Runa can't touch her, short of a Natural 20, its a moot point.
JUSTICAR
player, 1172 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 19:08
  • msg #48

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 47):

Don't sell Runa short... magic is ...'Special'.... it many times bypassess certain defenses!  Can't hurt to try her power touch.. remember its not that you are not touching the intangible person... but that your physical form is passing through them like sand. Your still touching the 'sand' your hand is just passing through it. But your magic can still affect it...even IF your hand finds no solid grasp.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:09, Sun 25 Dec 2022.
Runa
player, 195 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 19:19
  • msg #49

Re: OOC 3

Like I said, GM call. ^_^
Winter Herald
player, 402 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 21:45
  • msg #50

Re: OOC 3

It might not be required if we take down the rest of her team, although if she keeps giving trouble after that, I will shoot at her with one of my shotgun eyes, because I have those apparently.

Shotgun eyes, in this case, meaning "ion blast," because it generally comes out in a tight spread of energy like a shotgun.

I'm hoping I do not have to. I can't really pull that. It will hurt.
JUSTICAR
player, 1173 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 22:45
  • msg #51

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 50):

Particle accelerators, like Ion Guns, might actually work on an intangible foe as they are not lasers but are a stream of highly charged particles... might be why in Beyond the supernatural.. the 'Ghostbusters' weapon of choice is the particle rifle. 'shrug'
Bellissima
player, 498 posts
ISP 6/156
HP::23/23
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 23:10
  • msg #52

Re: OOC 3

Runa, something you can do is to help Bellissima.  Either by helping punch out Provider/Vitaly or getting Moppet who is trying to punch Bellissima.

Once Provider/Vitaly is down, she can try her telekinesis against Whisper.  That might work.

Hmm.. Bellissima doesn't know this yet, but it sounds like Holly might be possessed by something.   Bellissima could try to exorcise Holly, but that is a non-combat power and she would need to meditation for 2 hours first.
Winter Herald
player, 403 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 25 Dec 2022
at 23:24
  • msg #53

Re: OOC 3

If you are wondering why Winter Herald is holding back, it is because they are thieves primarily. Any other crimes they commit is incidental to the theft. Kidnapping - assuming that remains the case - is an exceptional MO and Phage's words confirmed my theory that they weren't all on board with it.

Hitting thieves with punches that crack with the force of a bear-killing rifle seems excessive. I might have hit Moppet too hard. If these were FORCE's troops or more conventionally murderous in inclination, Herald would use proper force to dispatch them.
Runa
player, 197 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 26 Dec 2022
at 05:58
  • msg #54

Re: OOC 3

GM, does your last post mean I need to redo Runa's action? Or did it get lost in all the posts? Or does it mean she lwt Runa hit with the power touch punch but it did nothing?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:21, Mon 26 Dec 2022.
SSOGM
GM, 829 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 26 Dec 2022
at 07:47
  • msg #55

Re: OOC 3

Runa's next action will occur after Bellissima and a few others act.
Runa
player, 198 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 26 Dec 2022
at 15:23
  • msg #56

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Runa's next action will occur after Bellissima and a few others act.

OK so just let it ride, thanks!
Bellissima
player, 499 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Mon 26 Dec 2022
at 19:31
  • msg #57

Re: OOC 3

Rules question: Is it possible to hold an attack?  I want to have Bellissima give Provider a chance to surrender, without giving up her attack and hopefully be able to respond immediately if he does something that isn't surrendering.

Example;

Bellissima wraps Vitaly in her TK grip, ready to toss him against the ceiling if he takes the slightest attempt to do anything besides surrender. "Are you surrendering? (rolls are already done)

Vitaly tries to control someone, Bellissima tosses him immediately into the ceiling.
SSOGM
GM, 830 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 26 Dec 2022
at 20:13
  • msg #58

Re: OOC 3

Yes, you can do that. How would you know if he tries to control someone, assuming he actually does that kind of thing? You'll find the question is moot, but I still thought I'd ask.
Bellissima
player, 500 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Mon 26 Dec 2022
at 20:38
  • msg #59

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 58):

Heh, usually she would activate Detect Psionics or See Auras for that, but she doesn't have the ISP for it right now, especially since she just spent 2 ISP because her sixth sense activated.  Currently, she will be watching for unusual behavior from her teammates and watching for him to try to touch someone or make eye contact with someone.
Runa
player, 199 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 00:26
  • msg #60

Re: OOC 3

OK, so Runa can't do anything against Whisperer, check! It had to be tried though. Runa isn't a genius but she isn't an idiot either so she will be switching targets. Hopefully she has better luck.
Bellissima
player, 502 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 01:23
  • msg #61

Re: OOC 3

Rules question again :)

Can Bellissima's See the Invisible see through the cloud of smoke?
Winter Herald
player, 404 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 01:39
  • msg #62

Re: OOC 3

I don't see any saving throws that Justicar was throwing. Were they secret? Because I'm curious if I need to return and repeatedly punch Trishula for being too stupid to surrender when they really, really should have.
SSOGM
GM, 832 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 01:46
  • msg #63

Re: OOC 3

No, there weren't saves. But I did have to make a few modifications to the originally suggested effects so JUSTICAR's player needs to re-read the last few posts, mea culpa.
SSOGM
GM, 833 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 01:50
  • msg #64

Re: OOC 3

No. It would require some other enhanced sense to see through it.

Heroes Unlimited Revised Second Edition, page 321:
Cloud Of Smoke
Range: 90 feet (27.4 m).
Duration: Four melee rounds per level of experience.
Saving Throw: None
P.P.E: Two
This magic enables the arcanist to create a cloud of dense, black smoke (30x30x30 foot maximum size) up to ninety feet (27.4 m) away. Victims caught in the cloud will be unable to see anything beyond it, and their vision is impaired ; they can see no more than three feet (0.9 m) in front of them (and those images are only a blurry shape unless within one foot/O.3 m). While in the cloud, victims will be -5 to strike, parry, and dodge.

JUSTICAR
player, 1175 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 01:57
  • msg #65

OOC 3

Ah... ok..re-read. Whew! Not as bad as I'd feared cause spells are stupid... they target what the caster cast the spell at... and this spell is fortunately not an AoE effect.

So Justicar is... mostly out of the fight... but not as such in danger ... as much.

I will adjust my post.
JUSTICAR
player, 1176 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 02:20
  • msg #66

OOC 3

Fixed.  Hope that is acceptable?

Hikari has a personal carry capacity of 380lbs, and can dead lift 760lbs... his suit is 680lbs... which would be heavier if three of its drones were still attached!  Right now if he can get the last one to detach that's another 52lbs he can drop... but it would STILL be a heroic effort to stand and walk in the suit.  The Justicar suit is currently in it heavy armor configuration... not its light armor configuration which he CAN walk around in if encumbered quite a bit.

He might be able to do something but with all his systems down for movement control... it will be extremely limited.  Though SSOGM did say it was only movement... maybe once he's clear of the cloud he can do a system check to see if his sensors, targeting and weapons are still on line?

But likely Justicar is done for this melee round at least.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:22, Tue 27 Dec 2022.
Runa
player, 201 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 17:22
  • msg #67

OOC 3

So happy Runa's healing helped. ^_^

Now as soon as she has actions again, assuming no one else has attended to it, she will be smacking Moppet for that little back attack.
Winter Herald
player, 406 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 27 Dec 2022
at 21:39
  • msg #68

OOC 3

It's alright. Verbal actions strictly on my end until the top of the next round.
Winter Herald
player, 409 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 2 Jan 2023
at 06:20
  • msg #69

OOC 3

Rolled initiative. I am so slow right now.

EDIT: In more ways than one.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:26, Mon 02 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1181 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Wed 4 Jan 2023
at 17:45
  • msg #70

OOC 3

Tao-Zen looked into the game yesterday.  I always pm Tao-Zen, and Tyger when they look into the game... but they NEVER reply. 'Shrug'  Not sure why...?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:46, Wed 04 Jan 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 838 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 05:32
  • msg #71

OOC 3

IIRC both players were spinning too many plates, so took a virtual step away. As they never asked to be removed from the game, they haven't been. If, at any time, they wish to reappear they will.
Senor Garcia
player, 164 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 06:39
  • msg #72

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
IIRC both players were spinning too many plates, so took a virtual step away. As they never asked to be removed from the game, they haven't been. If, at any time, they wish to reappear they will.


I’ve been GMing games here since early 2006 and IMO when a player states “I need to step away for an undetermined amount of time” is often a soft sell of: “I want to leave the game but don’t want to flat out say so.”

That said if a player actually gives notice they are stepping away (as opposed to ghosting from the game) it is enough to retain the player and not hand the character off to another player.
Chimp Man Z
player, 740 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP 101 SDC 343, CHI 40
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 07:38
  • msg #73

Re: OOC 3

TaoZen has been around since the first iteration of this game, like me.  It would be a shame if he decided to leave permanently.
Runa
player, 203 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 14:21
  • msg #74

Re: OOC 3

Everyone is tracking that Runa is actively being engaged right? Winter and Justicar are having these long conversations while Runa is still fighting. She can't heal anyone at the moment as she needs to spend her action dodging.
JUSTICAR
player, 1184 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 14:30
  • msg #75

Re: OOC 3

'Shrug' You can disengage if you want... now that Winter and Justicar are not needed here we're on our way ~ well at least justicar is.  Without powered movement... Hikari can't really give the needed medical care {not being an actual paramedic either} with his depowered heavy somewhat fumbling limbs/gauntlets AND he does have the sensors to track and target the shrinking Moppet.

I 'may' also have a way of dealing with Chiroptera...
This message was last edited by the player at 14:33, Thu 05 Jan 2023.
Bellissima
player, 505 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 14:33
  • msg #76

Re: OOC 3

Is the darkness field still active around the south room?  If it is, it will be quicker to move Trishula to Runa, than have Runa move to him.
JUSTICAR
player, 1185 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 14:35
  • msg #77

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 76):

It 'seems' so.. as his being comatose has NOT ended any of his spell effects.  Yes, I think Hikari can manage to move him {clumsily} on his next action...
This message was last edited by the player at 14:35, Thu 05 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1186 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 14:49
  • msg #78

Re: OOC 3

I feel sorry for Provider... he may have just moved himself into a position for a very legitimate kill by Senor Garcia.

Mind Control is not something 'conventional' measures can really be used to deal with!  If Senor Garcia feels Maharajah or himself are potentially being influenced by a mind contoller... shooting that jackass in the head is a PERFECTLY JUSTIFIED response that even the merciful Hikari would admit was the best option...considering the limits of what any mundane measures can yeild!

There really is NO WAY to 'shoot to wound' that will stop a mind controller from "thinking" at you...!
This message was last edited by the player at 14:51, Thu 05 Jan 2023.
Runa
player, 205 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 15:10
  • msg #79

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima:
Is the darkness field still active around the south room?  If it is, it will be quicker to move Trishula to Runa, than have Runa move to him.

That would be the best option. That will not only get the patient to Runa for treatment but also put Justicar in a position to fight off Whisperer and anyone else, while Runa heals the wounded.

In the mean time though...Runa will carry on trying to defend herself.
JUSTICAR
player, 1187 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 15:17
  • msg #80

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 79):

That's cool.. will do when second action comes around...
Winter Herald
player, 412 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 5 Jan 2023
at 20:46
  • msg #81

Re: OOC 3

When it comes to the dialogue, to a point I'm taking advantage of the medium, specifically comic books. There's some Shakespearean dialogue that comes during what is supposed to be a quick action sequence, so... yeah.

----

There are a lot of excessive force and Eighth Amendment questions which come up in superhero works, and they undergo various degrees of addressing. Sometimes they are handwaved or ignored, other times they wind up becoming an important part of the work. If prior legal rulings in our side of the medium are any indication, I suspect that most force regulations would be in favor of the superhero and the institutions, which would have the unfortunate side effect of weakening most regulations and standards regarding the Eighth, especially if there are beings which cannot be safely imprisoned without unusual punishment being required, or that have such dangerous powers they are legally considered armed at all times.

So, we might spend time in court, the ruling would likely be in our favor as long as we took the court seriously, and the world might change or we might just confirm precedent, depending on the case. If Harlow v Fitzgerald still occurred in this timeline, and it is likely something like that case occurred, than qualified immunity grants us the same degree of protection our police currently enjoy - the "reasonable person" standard.

One caveat to this: comic book courts are not predictable beasts. Buuuuuuuuuuuut, we would be aware of such landmark rulings and deviations from our own real life timelines, I would hope.

I am trying to be as neutral as possible on this topic, and simply go for dry informing. I do have opinions. I am simply assuming they are not welcome until otherwise notified.
Bellissima
player, 506 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 00:40
  • msg #82

Re: OOC 3

Is there a way we can tell if someone is through their SDC and into their hitpoints, SSOGM?
Winter Herald
player, 414 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 01:20
  • msg #83

Re: OOC 3

I think it was sudden, in this case. We just crashed right through his SDC after I had committed to attacking him. Honestly, since he made no indication of "I'm going to stop casting", I would have probably gone through with the attack anyways. I determined that dead or alive, he was going to stop casting.
Senor Garcia
player, 165 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 02:11
  • msg #84

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima:
Is there a way we can tell if someone is through their SDC and into their hitpoints, SSOGM?

Well they were given the option to surrender and instead of doing so are apparently attempting to inflict serious bodily harm upon the team that can result in a team members death.

That’s all the justification needed for the team to utilize deadly force.
JUSTICAR
player, 1188 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 02:21
  • msg #85

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 84):

PRECISELY!!!
Bellissima
player, 508 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 03:02
  • msg #86

Re: OOC 3

My question to SSOGM has no relationship to what actions Winter Herald, Justicar or anyone else on the team has taken.  It is only for my own benefit so that I can make sure Bellissima doesn't accidentally kill anyone.
Senor Garcia
player, 166 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 04:21
  • msg #87

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima:
My question to SSOGM has no relationship to what actions Winter Herald, Justicar or anyone else on the team has taken.  It is only for my own benefit so that I can make sure Bellissima doesn't accidentally kill anyone.

If your character is not want to kill somebody then youshould use “pull punch” or use arm/wrist lock techniques and or a called KO/Stun.
Winter Herald
player, 415 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 05:52
  • msg #88

Re: OOC 3

No, I actually get her request. Sometimes you don't have those methods, or they are really terrible choices.

Here's hoping the answer is to your liking.
Bellissima
player, 509 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 06:00
  • msg #89

Re: OOC 3

Thanks Winter. I do to. :)
JUSTICAR
player, 1189 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 06:03
  • msg #90

Re: OOC 3

Indeed. Justicar has no desire to kill anyone... but if it means the life of a teammate or that of a uncooperative criminal... the criminal will die... and Hikari will have NO REGRETS making that choice!

In this case a criminal continually refusing to surrender AND use effects powers against his team after Repeated demands to Stop thus he gets a progressively more forceful response until he can no long continue attacking!

That "Wall of Fire" is likely a spell he cast again refusing to Stop casting spells.  Trishula's choices demanded lethal force to be applied to subdue him!

Keep in mind... Hikari is NOT a US citizen.  He's from Japan... and the Japan system of law enforcement is MUCH MUCH harsher than the US counterpart... in fact Hikari is using a Great Deal more restraint than Japan Police would use!

This is not to say young Hikari cannot learn to be more... gentle or mindful of miranda rights or the use of excessive force... its just to say this is what he is familiar with.. its a cultural oversite on his part.  A "talking too" would indeed clear up his unfamliliarity with such American protocol.  He tries very hard to be complaint to the law of the land he is in... German law enforcement is also different and Hikari has dual-citizenship in both countries.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:05, Fri 06 Jan 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 167 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 06:31
  • msg #91

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 90):

Well technically we are not even on US soil, we are operating in international waters on a vessel that may not be registered with any nation-state.
SSOGM
GM, 842 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 06:54
  • msg #92

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR and Winter Herald were using their comparatively least lethal weaponry, but Trishula is just a man who studied a lot of odd stuff. It's also of note that Trishula didn't do anything that would "damage" his targets. He threw up smoke to avoid being targeted, then turned invisible, then turned off some electricity, then slowed someone down.
Doctor Phage hasn't done anything, but he's trussed and gagged as if he's being kidnapped.
Now the characters will get to discuss this stuff, in character. My hope is that this makes it interesting, even enjoyable. If I'm wrong, let me know and I'll adjust things.
JUSTICAR
player, 1190 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 10:40
  • msg #93

OOC 3

Oh dear... well this is what happens in the fog of war!  Cause magic and psionics are so very similar and Hikari is basically only passing familiar with either... he mistook the 'wall of fire' as a "spell effect" and Trishula has paid the price for it.

Honestly there is no way Hikari could have known Belle has no had the time for Hikari to do any full analysis of her powers to even try to come up eith even a working theory about the detection of functioning psi powers.

We ... well at least Justicar will not support an operation like this again that goes in without Belle at 100% recovery cause had she the energy needed if we would have "actually" waited until the 02:00 PLANNED go time she would have had way more energy to have potentially detected and informed us of these psi powers in action.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:40, Fri 06 Jan 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 416 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 10:50
  • msg #94

OOC 3

I just assumed Trishula lost initiative and I kicked his ribs in before he got another cast off. I figured our enemy psychic leader used Pyrokinesis - which is actually good in SDC games - to try to discourage pursuit, and didn't bank on Maharaja just walking right through it, and Winter Herald simply not caring about things like "pain" when it comes to objective completion.

Also, he is legitimately upset that there is no fire extinguishing measures anywhere nearby. There's being criminal, and then there's moments that remind you safety regulations are written in blood.
JUSTICAR
player, 1191 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 11:23
  • msg #95

OOC 3

Justicar is not concerned HE, of course, has CO2 and halon loads for his fire extinguishing systems in his armor.  He's not going to let the bio-vessel be destroyed... before its properly analyzed.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 11:23, Fri 06 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1192 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 11:36
  • msg #96

OOC 3

Question...

SSOGM.. why does Justicar have 2 actions used? What two things did he do by your count?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:36, Fri 06 Jan 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 843 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 13:23
  • msg #97

OOC 3

First action was to hit Trishula with the electric discharge, second action was to evaluate Trishula's condition while securing the villain.
JUSTICAR
player, 1193 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 13:57
  • msg #98

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 97):

Ok thx. Just trying to stay on the same page. Got it!
This message was last edited by the player at 13:57, Fri 06 Jan 2023.
Runa
player, 206 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 6 Jan 2023
at 15:13
  • msg #99

Re: OOC 3

Wow. Something like a dozen posts since I went to bed late and woke up too damn early. You guys sure are prolific once you're on!
Winter Herald
player, 417 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 7 Jan 2023
at 05:52
  • msg #100

Re: OOC 3

Well, Runa and Maharaja are coming up. Figured I'd drop that. I definitely dropped my post early, but that's mostly because I had a good idea of what I had in mind.
SSOGM
GM, 844 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 8 Jan 2023
at 16:41
  • msg #101

Re: OOC 3

I've been using a technique that allows me to make a post that doesn't appear the same to everyone that reads it. This may have lead players to think other players have information that they don't have. As an example,
SSOGM:
[Secret to JUSTICAR: Although Winter Herald's passage is obvious to someone expecting him to be there, once he's on the island there isn't a workable angle for the radar or sonar to keep track of him.]
[Secret to Winter Herald: As he crosses the island, Winter Herald sees nothing that could be defined as modern surveillance equipment. At one point, he notices a bird being slowly dragged down into the substance of Aeaea, but the actions of the pseudopods suggest the bird is the largest thing the island could consume this way. The hatch is unlocked, and easily opened.]
Señor Garcia does a good job explaining the use of the rebreather to everyone. It was good that he took the time to do so, once in the water the shock of the cold almost knocked the careful instructions of Señor Garcia from the hero's minds. But with Señor Garcia right there, no one said anything.
[Secret to Senor Garcia:There were no "cameras, traps and other hostile things such as the odd shark or some plant like tentacle reaching out to grab them" at the island.]

appeared to everyone but JUSTICAR, Winter Herald, and Señor Garcia as
SSOGM:
Señor Garcia does a good job explaining the use of the rebreather to everyone. It was good that he took the time to do so, once in the water the shock of the cold almost knocked the careful instructions of Señor Garcia from the hero's minds. But with Señor Garcia right there, no one said anything.

JUSTICAR saw the post as
SSOGM:
Although Winter Herald's passage is obvious to someone expecting him to be there, once he's on the island there isn't a workable angle for the radar or sonar to keep track of him.
Señor Garcia does a good job explaining the use of the rebreather to everyone. It was good that he took the time to do so, once in the water the shock of the cold almost knocked the careful instructions of Señor Garcia from the hero's minds. But with Señor Garcia right there, no one said anything.

Winter Herald saw
SSOGM:
As he crosses the island, Winter Herald sees nothing that could be defined as modern surveillance equipment. At one point, he notices a bird being slowly dragged down into the substance of Aeaea, but the actions of the pseudopods suggest the bird is the largest thing the island could consume this way. The hatch is unlocked, and easily opened.
Señor Garcia does a good job explaining the use of the rebreather to everyone. It was good that he took the time to do so, once in the water the shock of the cold almost knocked the careful instructions of Señor Garcia from the hero's minds. But with Señor Garcia right there, no one said anything.

and Senor Garcia saw
SSOGM:
Señor Garcia does a good job explaining the use of the rebreather to everyone. It was good that he took the time to do so, once in the water the shock of the cold almost knocked the careful instructions of Señor Garcia from the hero's minds. But with Señor Garcia right there, no one said anything.
There were no "cameras, traps and other hostile things such as the odd shark or some plant like tentacle reaching out to grab them" at the island.

This was done using the 'Secret to' coding.
SSOGM:
[Secret to JUSTICAR: Although Winter Herald's passage is obvious to someone expecting him to be there, once he's on the island there isn't a workable angle for the radar or sonar to keep track of him.]
[Secret to Winter Herald: As he crosses the island, Winter Herald sees nothing that could be defined as modern surveillance equipment. At one point, he notices a bird being slowly dragged down into the substance of Aeaea, but the actions of the pseudopods suggest the bird is the largest thing the island could consume this way. The hatch is unlocked, and easily opened.]
Señor Garcia does a good job explaining the use of the rebreather to everyone. It was good that he took the time to do so, once in the water the shock of the cold almost knocked the careful instructions of Señor Garcia from the hero's minds. But with Señor Garcia right there, no one said anything.
[Secret to Senor Garcia:There were no "cameras, traps and other hostile things such as the odd shark or some plant like tentacle reaching out to grab them" at the island.]

So, please let me know if you see something that doesn't make sense for your character but remember that my posts can be individualized without identifying that they have been.
JUSTICAR
player, 1194 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 8 Jan 2023
at 18:07
  • msg #102

Re: OOC 3

OHHH! THAT clarifies a lot of things. Ok! Thx!
Runa
player, 207 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 8 Jan 2023
at 21:43
  • msg #103

Re: OOC 3

Lesson learned (again), don't try to hit the auto-dodge monster. ^_^
Winter Herald
player, 418 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 8 Jan 2023
at 22:19
  • msg #104

Re: OOC 3

Well, my actions have been chosen, and nothing's changed enough for me to alter course. So I'm good on actions.
SSOGM
GM, 845 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 00:16
  • msg #105

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Lesson learned (again), don't try to hit the auto-dodge monster. ^_^

You do realize The Whisperer's natural roll (without bonuses) was higher than Runa's to hit roll WITH bonuses. The Whisperer has Extraordinary Speed, but her dodge rolls have been lucky thus far.
Runa
player, 208 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 00:39
  • msg #106

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Runa:
Lesson learned (again), don't try to hit the auto-dodge monster. ^_^

You do realize The Whisperer's natural roll (without bonuses) was higher than Runa's to hit roll WITH bonuses. The Whisperer has Extraordinary Speed, but her dodge rolls have been lucky thus far.

Lucky and faster ^_^
Runa
player, 209 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 00:42
  • msg #107

Re: OOC 3

Runa is waiting on Justicar and or Winter to bring her the gravely injured NPC to heal. She heard Bellissima's shout to them and so know someone needs her aid. With The Whisper no longer attacking her, she can focus on healing those in need.
JUSTICAR
player, 1195 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 01:17
  • msg #108

Re: OOC 3

I'm waiting on SSOGM to tell us we can act again...
Winter Herald
player, 420 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 01:28
  • msg #109

Re: OOC 3

Justicar is the one being awesome on that. Whisperer will likely continue making this irritating.
JUSTICAR
player, 1196 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 01:40
  • msg #110

Re: OOC 3

I have restrained from calling Holly Cook  ~ Lady Armageddon... as Hikari has heard no one use that reference to her.
Winter Herald
player, 421 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 01:44
  • msg #111

Re: OOC 3

A mild edit required, due to that observation and confirmation of observation. Done, and thank you.
Runa
player, 210 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 06:15
  • msg #112

Re: OOC 3

Runa was knocked down right? After that last attack from the Whisperer? And I'm guessing Justicar never saw Whisperer attacking Runa?
SSOGM
GM, 847 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 08:50
  • msg #113

Re: OOC 3

Yes, yes she was.
Perhaps JUSTICAR is pretending that's the case so he can focus his efforts on Chiroptera.
JUSTICAR
player, 1198 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 09:57
  • msg #114

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 112):

Hikari knows the martial arts legsweep maneuver.. he knows it does no damage... so he does not consider that an attack.  Whisperer has maintained no direct attack to inflict harm on his teammates.  He can also tell she has hyperspeed and knows she could be doing far more nastier things!

Plus, she wanted the fight to end at the very beginning... and he wanted to acknowledge that sentiment was Not missed or disregarded!

He is regretful of Trishula's injuries, it should not have needed to end that way... {especially when all Winter would have needed to do was tear a bit of his superfulous clothing to make a restraint and gag to stop Trishula's casting} [this is my teasing tone :)] and he wants to de-escalate this conflict.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:56, Mon 09 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1199 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 11:14
  • msg #115

Re: OOC 3

Huh?!?  Looked at this again....

SSOGM:
Chiroptera zips through Winter Herald and The Maharaja before she turns back and says, astonished, "you're a machine!"
As she speaks, The Maharaja gasps and shakes his head, appearing somewhat stunned.
Trishula looks at Dr. Phage in JUSTICAR's arms and says, "technology my ass" before mumbling some gibberish that appears to vibrate in the air.


Then everything went dark AND justicer became inert!

It 'seems' like Trishula cast two spells at once...which I know is impossible so Hikari must have been in error ~ someone else did the darkness fog?!?
Winter Herald
player, 422 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 11:17
  • msg #116

Re: OOC 3

Trishula seems to be averaging one spell per action. I'm fine with that, although it means they've likely burned a ton of PPE doing it.
JUSTICAR
player, 1200 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 11:31
  • msg #117

Re: OOC 3

Note... I added questions to the gm in my last post I forgot to add when I posted.
Runa
player, 212 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 16:51
  • msg #118

Re: OOC 3

Run is a bit preoccupied at the moment Bellissima but as soon as she knows you are bleeding, she will rush to heal you.
Bellissima
player, 512 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 21:35
  • msg #119

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 118):

This is flavor text bleeding only Runa. :)  Representing that she is nearly out of ISP, so there is nothing Runa can do about it. :)
Runa
player, 213 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 21:45
  • msg #120

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima:
In reply to Runa (msg # 118):

This is flavor text bleeding only Runa. :)  Representing that she is nearly out of ISP, so there is nothing Runa can do about it. :)

I know that but Runa doesn't ^_^

So she will be concerned and try to heal her comrade anyways. All flavor text but I like that about a good game.
Bellissima
player, 513 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Mon 9 Jan 2023
at 23:59
  • msg #121

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Bellissima:
In reply to Runa (msg # 118):

This is flavor text bleeding only Runa. :)  Representing that she is nearly out of ISP, so there is nothing Runa can do about it. :)

I know that but Runa doesn't ^_^

So she will be concerned and try to heal her comrade anyways. All flavor text but I like that about a good game.

Excellent :) I encourage good RP! :D
JUSTICAR
player, 1201 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 10 Jan 2023
at 11:25
  • msg #122

OOC 3

So. By the rules a Mental Affinity {MA} of 15 or less gets no bonus. Does that mean its a worthless stat for ANY game mechanics?

Cause Justicar just made an intimidation/bluff attempt against Whisperer...

Same question goes for Physical Beauty {PB} of 14 or less?  Is it worthless in the game mechanics for ANY use at all?

What if... the % chance for inspire/intimidate and charm/impress were extrapolated for lower attribute scores as opposed to sudden % chance at 16+ attributes?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:34, Tue 10 Jan 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 848 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 10 Jan 2023
at 12:41
  • msg #123

OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 122):

For this game, that would look like this:

Extended Attribute Bonus Chart1112131415
IQ add to all skills--------1%
MA trust/intimidate130%30%30%30%30%
PE  save vs coma/death1----1%2%3%
PB charm/impress------10%20%


1MA of less than 11 has a 10% chance

Due to the Spinal Tap Rule (first post in Rules Discussions and Decisions) no attributes should start with less than an eleven.
I've added this extended table to the House Rules. Characters with an IQ of 15 may add 1 to all of their skill percentages. I don't think there will be much of an effect from any of the other attributes.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:50, Tue 10 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1202 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 10 Jan 2023
at 15:04
  • msg #124

Re: OOC 3

Sweet! Thanks a lot!  Char sheet adjusted.
JUSTICAR
player, 1203 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 10 Jan 2023
at 18:42
  • msg #125

Re: OOC 3

To avoid later confusion a gentle reminder ~ Justicar did duct-tape Trishula's eyes shut as a precaution against him targeting with spells... a blindfold and a gag.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:42, Tue 10 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1204 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 12:54
  • msg #126

Re: OOC 3

So... are we waiting on someone?  Next actions are npcs and the last two pcs CMZ and Senor { who has conspicously stopped posting actions, but is clearly logging in ~ Id conjecture his actions have been posted privately, though not sure why? }.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:17, Thu 12 Jan 2023.
Runa
player, 214 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 15:34
  • msg #127

Re: OOC 3

Runa has 1 action left. Ill post later this morning.
JUSTICAR
player, 1205 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 15:44
  • msg #128

Re: OOC 3

I'm trying to post actions int he order SSOGM calls for them... he's doing on a initiative pass everyone gets one of their actions instead of ALL their actions at once {which is the Palladium system standard}.
Runa
player, 215 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 16:31
  • msg #129

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
I'm trying to post actions int he order SSOGM calls for them... he's doing on a initiative pass everyone gets one of their actions instead of ALL their actions at once {which is the Palladium system standard}.

Yes, I know
Senor Garcia
player, 168 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 17:42
  • msg #130

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
So... are we waiting on someone?  Next actions are npcs and the last two pcs CMZ and Senor { who has conspicously stopped posting actions, but is clearly logging in ~ Id conjecture his actions have been posted privately, though not sure why? }.

My first few actions this round are just getting into the area where everyone else is.

Once the GM responds to my last PM I’ll ask if I’m cleared to post actually doing something other then show up.


The standard I have seen for Palladium games here on RPOL is players post all their actions in one post and after everyone posts the GM sorts everything out (the term ‘let God sort it out’ comes to mind).

I have been toying with the idea of dividing characters actions by three and doing 5 second melees and test that in one of the games I run.
Winter Herald
player, 424 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 17:46
  • msg #131

Re: OOC 3

I'm not gonna lie, Garcia. I figured you were pulling a Michael Jackson, in that he tended to start his shows with the lights off for about twenty seconds or so while the audience got hyped up for the show.

More specifically, I figured you were just waiting either for the "all clear" or to be the last surprise anyone who slipped by us got.

Hollywood sleigh clicking
JUSTICAR
player, 1206 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 18:43
  • msg #132

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 130):

Hmmm... intriguing. Keep us informed how well that works out please?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:43, Thu 12 Jan 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 169 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Thu 12 Jan 2023
at 20:11
  • msg #133

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 131):

Hopefully my time spent going through the sub and verifying that it shouldn’t be going anywhere wasn’t wasted.

But yeah if some villain tries to run past the guy who looks like a Spec War operator who is still wearing his dreager I got some ideas.
SSOGM
GM, 851 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 07:01
  • msg #134

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
JUSTICAR:
So... are we waiting on someone?  Next actions are npcs and the last two pcs CMZ and Senor { who has conspicously stopped posting actions, but is clearly logging in ~ Id conjecture his actions have been posted privately, though not sure why? }.

My first few actions this round are just getting into the area where everyone else is.

Once the GM responds to my last PM I’ll ask if I’m cleared to post actually doing something other then show up.


The standard I have seen for Palladium games here on RPOL is players post all their actions in one post and after everyone posts the GM sorts everything out (the term ‘let God sort it out’ comes to mind).

I have been toying with the idea of dividing characters actions by three and doing 5 second melees and test that in one of the games I run.


We weren't waiting on anyone, I've been busy IRL.
Rather than divide the actions by three, I eliminated the 'two actions for breathing' rule. It hasn't completely uncluttered long combat threads, but it's much better than the last time I tried to run Palladium conflict.
JUSTICAR
player, 1208 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 11:21
  • msg #135

Re: OOC 3

Eh. I'm of a mixed feelings about the 'no base two actions' for breathing... mostly cause the rules of hu2e have increased the number of powers and attack forms that use up two actions to perform.

The gamemaster's guide to hu2e has expanded upon the superbrawling rules that make doing power punch haymaker brawling use up more actions in battle.  Personally, I think it is self-correcting.  The only character types that 'possibly' get over "somewhat" are pure ranged attackers like Senior Garcia, and potentially Justicar 'maybe'.  But as proven in play... not every problem can be solved by simply 'shooting it'.

Also, the RIFT'S modern weapons combat rules evolution has reduced the bonuses for 'aimed shots' to only +2 and increased the action cost to 2 actions to do a aimed shot and a called aimed shot to 3 actions! Though, fortunately they got rid of the -10 dodge penalty to dodge bullets and beams to a -5 at medium and long range and a -8 at short range.  It does make more sense but it also makes having a high number of actions less impactful cause it costs more actions to do the cenematic stuff.

So ...self-corrected with the evolved palladium rules for combat...IF you use them.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:31, Fri 13 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1209 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 13:10
  • msg #136

Re: OOC 3

So I guess I'M waiting to see if Chiroptera or Dr. Phage are going to do anything... unless Senor Garcia, CMZ or Maharajah are going to act?
Chimp Man Z
player, 743 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP 101 SDC 343, CHI 40
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 13:13
  • msg #137

Re: OOC 3

Actually, at certain levels, you gain a +1 to strike with modern weapons.  Some start at level 1, some at level 2.  It just depends upon the weapon.  Plus, revolvers add an additional +1.  Though, from my own firearms experience, I think that +1 should be added to any single-action shooting, because you use less finger pressure to fire a weapon when the hammer is already cocked, than if you are firing double-actions, where the trigger pull has to cock, then release, the hammer, or striker.
JUSTICAR
player, 1210 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 13:24
  • msg #138

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 137):

I have not had the opportunity to fire a revolver... but yeah you can dump a whole 11 round magazine in a semi-automatic pistol in a few seconds... but you ARE more accurate with a single shot.

And yes, Hikari is profiency with modern automatic pistol and has a fairly good bonus ti hit with them +5 I believe currently with an aimed shot.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:27, Fri 13 Jan 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 745 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP 101 SDC 343, CHI 40
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 13:55
  • msg #139

Re: OOC 3

Actually, the proficiency is now Handguns, which covers ALL automatic and semi-automatic pistols and revolvers.
JUSTICAR
player, 1211 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 13:57
  • msg #140

Re: OOC 3

Did Chiroptera come back out of the wall she went into? I don't see her on the battle map.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:57, Fri 13 Jan 2023.
Bellissima
player, 514 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 13 Jan 2023
at 22:54
  • msg #141

Re: OOC 3

FYI: tomorrow is earliest I can make a post, going to be busy for rest of day.
SSOGM
GM, 853 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 14 Jan 2023
at 08:59
  • msg #142

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 135):

My first thought was to cut actions in half, rounding up (without subtracting the 'two for breathing'). Then I realized that would make characters that focus on speed less effective at high levels (as they would lose MORE Speed than a non-runner).
JUSTICAR
player, 1213 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sat 14 Jan 2023
at 10:58
  • msg #143

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 142):

Hmmm... yeah that would not have been 'optimal' and would have skewed the system in unpleasant ways.  I did not do what many robotic origin players usually do and buy the maximum number of attacks possible added to their action total.  In fact I bought NO additional actions from Robotics, unlike Lite Star who did {no accusation}... I just felt buying +3 Actions was kind of abusive.

Now the Mark IV Justicar ~ should it ever get built, I might consider buying more actions for it.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:43, Sat 14 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1215 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 12:32
  • msg #144

Re: OOC 3

Again! When did Chiroptera return to the room, she went through a Wall?  I was specifically holding an action waiting for her to return and it was ignored.  She is STILL not on the battle map.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:33, Mon 16 Jan 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 855 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 19:10
  • msg #145

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 144):

Chimp Man Z threw the attack as she ran out. I just got to it.
JUSTICAR
player, 1216 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 19:12
  • msg #146

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 145):

OH.. right.. lol. Yeah you've been busy... ok. Thx for the clarification!
Runa
player, 217 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 16 Jan 2023
at 19:46
  • msg #147

Re: OOC 3

Are we out of combat now? If so, ill have Runa respond to Justicar and start moving people.
SSOGM
GM, 856 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 17 Jan 2023
at 19:47
  • msg #148

Re: OOC 3

Sort of. Only Chiroptera is still around, but Chiroptera's actions will still be combat managed.
SSOGM
GM, 858 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 18 Jan 2023
at 13:36
  • msg #149

Re: OOC 3

When we're in combat, I want* (though it doesn't usually happen) that players post as many actions as they can as soon as they want to. I try to use these in the initiative order and stop when the situation has changed enough to warrant a player changing an action.
Of course, I think Mick was right about that.

*Tell 'em, Mick!
JUSTICAR
player, 1218 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Wed 18 Jan 2023
at 15:53
  • msg #150

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 149):

Heh.  Nicely put.. the double meaning is NOT lost on me! :)
You have made compelling situational urgency as to why ~ So its a legitimate statement!

'You Can't always get what you want'... message heard! :)
This message was lightly edited by the player at 15:54, Wed 18 Jan 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 174 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 06:41
  • msg #151

Re: OOC 3

Is there a way where a character’s perception check can determine what foreign language is being spoken?
Winter Herald
player, 427 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 06:58
  • msg #152

Re: OOC 3

For the record, my initiative modifier is a +5. I miss my speed so much. Gotta wait two minutes in-character.

I'm going to get Provider out, since that seems to be the plan. I'm likely the only one who can safely escort them. Anyone else runs a decent chance of becoming his new temporary recruit, if he takes the inclination for it.

I'll post before I go to bed.
Bellissima
player, 516 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 08:22
  • msg #153

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
We weren't waiting on anyone, I've been busy IRL.
Rather than divide the actions by three, I eliminated the 'two actions for breathing' rule. It hasn't completely uncluttered long combat threads, but it's much better than the last time I tried to run Palladium conflict.

 A little late to this discussion and something I have been meaning to address, so here it goes.

In general I am fine with the drop two additional attacks except for one thing: The non-trained fighter gets additional attacks quicker than the trained fighter.

No hand to hand skill
Starts with two attacks per melee round
Gains an additional attack per melee round at levels 4, 7, and 12

Hand to Hand Basic skill:
Starts with two attacks per melee round
gains an additional attack per melee round at levels 4, 9, and 15

Hand to Hand Martial Arts Skill:
Starts with two attacks per melee round
Gains an additional attack per melee round at levels 4, 9, and 14

Hand to Hand Expert Skill:
Starts with two attacks per melee round
Gains an additional attack per melee round at levels 4, 9, and 14

Hand to Hand Assassin:
Starts with two attacks per melee round
Gains an additional attack per melee round at levels 5, 8, and 13

Level | No Skill | Basic | Expert | Martial Art | Assassin
222222
433332
533333
743333
843334
944444
1254444
1354445
1454555
1555555


With this chart you can clearly see that the unskilled fighter is getting their additionally attacks earlier than all the skilled fighters.

This doesn't seem right or thematic of a skilled fighter vs a non-skilled fighter.

If all the skilled fighters started with 2 additional attacks, it wouldn't matter because the unskilled fighter would always be at least 1 attack slower and a maximum of 2 attacks slower.

This issue needs to be resolved for better balancing is my two cents.

One way to solve the problem is that the unskilled fighter starts out with 1 attack instead of 2.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:25, Thu 19 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1222 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 08:32
  • msg #154

Re: OOC 3

Hmmm... I hadn't noticed this Bella.. that IS disconcerting.
Winter Herald
player, 429 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 08:54
  • msg #155

Re: OOC 3

An untrained is pure aggression if inclined to fight. No form, no polish, no comprehension of defense. Just a fool swinging wildly at someone hoping for the best, usually strikes aimed at the general area of the head, with no understanding of how to throw a proper punch. To me, it makes sense they get more attacks faster.

EDIT: Oh, was Runa's idea of attempting to strike them as they swung at her properly tested and simply failed? Or did some development cancel that idea? Because that was actually a good idea.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:17, Thu 19 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1224 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 09:56
  • msg #156

Re: OOC 3

Not to be a downer here but both Chiroptera and Whisperer are able to be incorporeal.  It is possible Lady Armageddon can do the same from Justicar's first observations of her in action.  Most of the team are physical melee experts that is worthless against these foes.  I believe Runa already tried using her 'Holy Energy Fist' against Whisperer and it did nothing.  Bellissima is exhausted, Maharajah is an npc melee expert, CMZ is melee, Senor Garcia has bullets.. might as well be physical melee.  The only team member with any energy attacks are Winter and Justicar...both hindered.  We will not likely win this fight as we CAN'T reliably affect the enemy.  We should withdraw.

Justicar tried to get Senor to accept the new costume armor with dual electrical discharges to allow more team energy attack options in battle but it was not taken.. {no criticism here he has in-character RP issues which are Always valid} and there is no guarantee electrical attacks work on their 'flavor' of incorporeal nature anyways.

Justicar has An-M14 TH3 Incendiary grenades for hand and grenade launchers but they are really indiscriminate and HUGE AoE ~ more likely to harm the team and the bio-ship!

An-M14 TH3 Incendiary {CoCW, p.110, HU 2e, p.341} = Dam/Blast: 2d4x10+20/ 10-24’ft Rad – 1d6x10/25-35’ft Rad 5d6/ 36-120’ft Rad – 2d6, Dur: 10 melee rd

Justicar has flamethrowers.. but they only have a 16'ft range.. and with him mostly immobile application is an issue.
Justicar has electrical dischargers but they have only a 12'ft range.. same issue.

Plus, again we do not know if fire actually works on their incorporeal 'flavor'.

They may still need to breathe... so Justicar's airburst fire Tear gas and KO Gas 'may' work.. but that is only debilitating and potentially ineffectual on Holly if she has been severely altered by the Dimensional travel..she may not need to breathe anymore.

We should withdraw!

Fact is this.. we do not have time to experiment ...Lady A and Whisperer are coming to take control of the bioship from us.. by taking Dr. Phage..we MUST withdraw with him before they get that opportunity!

The sub is not usable for the same reason as the bio-ship. Clearly Dr. Phage is a control freak...! He made sure his research and gear cannot be used without his approval.

The cell phone sends signals... I don't know the codes needed to communicate to the Bio-ship it needs to understand.. it is not a translator it understands likely the codes Dr. Phage was frantically trying to input when I subdued him.
Likely the Bio-ship has a phone number that the Dr Phage 'calls' and when it picks up he give a series of phone button codes it understands.. its a language only he would knows.

Now.. Belle if she wasn't so tired might be able to probe Dr. Phage's mind for the command language...

But she is exhausted.

This does not seem like a fight we can win currently.  But if We get away they cannot control the Bio-ship or the Sub either.

Incorporeal is a big assed trump here..
This message was last edited by the player at 10:14, Thu 19 Jan 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 177 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 10:39
  • msg #157

Re: OOC 3

We will see how the GM rules my death blow strike to the Japanese guy's head/face.
Runa
player, 219 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 15:12
  • msg #158

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
An untrained is pure aggression if inclined to fight. No form, no polish, no comprehension of defense. Just a fool swinging wildly at someone hoping for the best, usually strikes aimed at the general area of the head, with no understanding of how to throw a proper punch. To me, it makes sense they get more attacks faster.

EDIT: Oh, was Runa's idea of attempting to strike them as they swung at her properly tested and simply failed? Or did some development cancel that idea? Because that was actually a good idea.

The GM told me I couldn't do it. The GM's rule is that the only way to do a simultaneous attack is to have an initiative equal or higher than the person attacking you and an action to use. Essentially, as I understand the GM, you can only do a simultaneous attack if you were holding an action .
Runa
player, 220 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 15:14
  • msg #159

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
Not to be a downer here...I believe Runa already tried using her 'Holy Energy Fist' against Whisperer and it did nothing

That is correct, Runa's attack had no effect.
Winter Herald
player, 430 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 19:06
  • msg #160

Re: OOC 3

So, readied actions - That Other Roleplaying Game's protocols against Ethereal Marauders and Filchers. I get away with it because of two-weapon fighting. Damn shame we don't know if it would have worked. Again, I emphasize, the idea was a good one and I cannot fault its logic.

So, Winter Herald's protocols for upcoming drama, in order of priority:
1) Holly Cook survives. She is going to make this very challenging. It's basically like doing a welfare check on someone, and they are intoxicated, armed, aggressive, and feeling potentially homicidal.
2) Provider survives. Winter Herald still wants to pick his brain. He might not have direct information on Major FORCE, but he might know something that could offer a lead.
3) Criminals apprehended. He's not sure if a tour of the incarceration systems will eliminate their inclinations to violate the law, but he considers that more of giving everyone else a cooling off period from their thieving antics. Plus, if they have any wealth left, restitution might be possible (haha idealism).

The ninja bodyguard is a wild card in all of this. They'll become a problem later, and I have to stall an engagement with them until Trishula's enchantment wears off. Then I can fight them if I must. Until then, I have to position them as an asset if possible... if they aren't dead already, which would admittedly from an OOC perspective simplify things.
Senor Garcia
player, 178 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 20:37
  • msg #161

Re: OOC 3

Funny how people are calling Señor Garcia a murderer when there actually is a difference between murder and killing.

Señor Garcia is killing the Provider’s body guard so he won’t be a problem. Body guards are not very likely to just let their principal be apprehended. So there is a just cause to kill him.

Now if Señor Garcia decided to shoot one if the villains who has surrendered then yes that is murder because there is no just cause in killing them (unless they try to escape).
Chimp Man Z
player, 750 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 22:51
  • msg #162

Re: OOC 3

It's the difference between what can be justified, and what can not.  However, in the PCs' line of work, law enforcement, this would not be justified.  If this were war, and we were playing soldiers, it could be.
Runa
player, 221 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 23:01
  • msg #163

Re: OOC 3

Heh, Rules of Engagement for Muder Hobos.
Bellissima
player, 518 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 23:04
  • msg #164

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
Funny how people are calling Señor Garcia a murderer when there actually is a difference between murder and killing.

Señor Garcia is killing the Provider’s body guard so he won’t be a problem. Body guards are not very likely to just let their principal be apprehended. So there is a just cause to kill him.

Now if Señor Garcia decided to shoot one if the villains who has surrendered then yes that is murder because there is no just cause in killing them (unless they try to escape).


That might be good justification for a Black Ops Force, but Sentinels is a Police Force and that should never be good justification for a Police Force.  A Police Force job is to catch criminals and turn them over to the courts with the minimum use of force.  We are playing in a superheroes as police, so what minimum force is, is a bit fuzzy and looser than real life.  Use of Deadly Force by any Police Officers should only be used in the case of extreme circumstances like saving the life of another person.  Killing someone because they MIGHT do something should be anathema to a Police Force.  Yes, Swat do kill people in real life, but those are in clear hostage situations where civilian lives are in danger.

So, Garcia killing the bodyguard is wrong.   The bodyguard is not threatening anyone and has brought warning of a danger.  What the bodyguard might do in the future has no bearing on the present.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:05, Thu 19 Jan 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 431 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 19 Jan 2023
at 23:24
  • msg #165

Re: OOC 3

Not gonna lie, by nearly any metric of police use of deadly force, uh... sorry, Garcia, that dog don't hunt. The subject in question, who was hiding initially, revealed themselves, and spoke to Provider in a foreign language. Garcia reacted, preparing for the worst. Justicar revealed them to have given a warning, clearly understanding the language, and the subject was concerned that Provider was in danger. Garcia requested clarification, received some from Justicar, and Provider continued speaking in Japanese.

Garcia was becoming agitated by this situation, and volunteered four languages for a response after expressing hostility on the topic. Justicar explained further, and at this point, Garcia opened fire on the subject, potentially killing them as of this point.

So, there are generally four kinds of homicide in the world: reprehensible, passionate, justified, and commendable. I don't like to say this, but the last two do not describe this one, and the sheer amount of questioning and speech Garcia gave eliminates the second from the math. Garcia's likely to aim for justified, but there was no threat to the team, there was no immediate threat to the prisoners, there was no concrete future threat, and if one was believed to be real, then before firing one should have asked Justicar to tell them to get prone and put their hands on their head before you shoot them.

THEN you could have legally shot them if they refused, given the high stress and danger of the situation. As it is, that didn't happen. You spoke once to Justicar about asking for an explanation, they were distracted, and you did not repeat the request before discharging the weapon with clear intent to kill. Even by Dark Champion standards, this would raise an eyebrow - the risk of panicking our prisoners has gone up, and there's a real chance we might need to beat the hell out of more of them, or kill them outright trying to calm them down, in addition to dealing with the incoming problems.

In short, Senor Garcia messed up. I hope he's got a good lawyer.
Runa
player, 223 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 00:09
  • msg #166

Re: OOC 3

Everyone is tracking that Runa and Lilibeth were arguing in their mind, not out loud, yes? She never once said anything out loud to anyone about Holly?

Unless Justicar can read surface thoughts?

If the internal dialog of those two is confusing, let me know and I will just do it as private text to the GM or just stop altogether.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:12, Fri 20 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1227 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 00:19
  • msg #167

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 166):

Sorry... my bad when you use bold and {" "}.. I thought you were speaking aloud and we were only hearing half the conversation...

Perhaps changing your text color for Lisabeth's thoughts might help with the confusion?

Usually I use the Aqua and italics for ~ Hikari pure thoughts not spoken.

Justicar is less than one thousand experience points from level 6!
This message was last edited by the player at 00:20, Fri 20 Jan 2023.
Runa
player, 224 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 00:38
  • msg #168

Re: OOC 3

Pink italics is Lilibeth thoughts. Bold pink italics is Runa thoughts. ^_^

Congrats on your almost level!
Bellissima
player, 519 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 00:41
  • msg #169

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 168):

I will keep track of that!! :D
JUSTICAR
player, 1229 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 01:21
  • msg #170

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 168):

Indeed noted.. I'll keep eyes open for that.
SSOGM
GM, 860 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 14:28
  • msg #171

Re: OOC 3

I'm working on a complex post, please be ready to edit previous posts if actions need to change. First issue, Bellissima will be unable to stop Señor Garcia from shooting that ninja.
JUSTICAR
player, 1230 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 15:11
  • msg #172

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 171):

Oh my. That will have some very unfortunate consequences.
Chimp Man Z
player, 752 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 15:40
  • msg #173

Re: OOC 3

Ah, shit.
Bellissima
player, 520 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 20 Jan 2023
at 15:54
  • msg #174

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 171):

Well dang.
JUSTICAR
player, 1231 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 13:22
  • msg #175

Re: OOC 3

I think... I have sufficiently modified all three of my posts with the reaction a 17 year old, but Extremely intelligent Asian Hero dropped into such a violent situation might react with the sudden realization the legendary 'Demons in flesh' ~ Ninja are suddenly Real...!!!
This message was last edited by the player at 13:33, Sat 21 Jan 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 434 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 22:54
  • msg #176

Re: OOC 3

Looks like I posted at the same time as Bellissima. No matter - Maharaja can take the body off her Telekinesis, and free that up for other things. Or he can fight, depending on situation calculus.

I did calculate for the possibility the hydrofoil might be destroyed. It's why I've asked some of the more creative party members if they have a means to exploit how this creature likely moves. It's moved by a cell phone - that means a sequence of electrical impulses makes it move, or possibility even think in particular ways. The former is a matter of understanding physics and basic biology.

The latter, making it think as you wish with electrical impulses, requires a more sophisticated understanding of the body, I would suspect. It is literally an organic machine.
Bellissima
player, 522 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Sat 21 Jan 2023
at 23:13
  • msg #177

Re: OOC 3

Or someone could mention to Bellissima that there is a cell phone to control the AIs and give to her the cell phone which she can effortlessly hack and use to control the AIs.  As long as it is technological and not organic, Bellissima can use it for another 8 or so minutes.
JUSTICAR
player, 1233 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 00:10
  • msg #178

Re: OOC 3

Now THAT... is an option!!!

But...even with that... it STILL does not deal with the fact we have multiple opponents who are incorporeal and we cannot hurt!
This message was last edited by the player at 00:21, Sun 22 Jan 2023.
Bellissima
player, 523 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 00:18
  • msg #179

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
Now THAT... is an option!!!

But...e en with that... it STILL does not deal.wit thenfact we have multiple opponents who are incorporeal and we cannotnhurt!


There is that. And when Bellissima gains a level, she can get an answer to that. But that is going to be awhile.
Winter Herald
player, 435 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 00:22
  • msg #180

Re: OOC 3

I'd need a good moment to transfer it to her, one with less danger around. It's currently a high priority target, unfortunately for my plan to exit. If Girl Squad knows Winter Herald has it, it might make a diplomatic exit hard, or at least put me in a position where I have to grant a concession.

Lots of variables, depends on who knows what. Control of the bio-island comes after we settle the fighting, and hopefully the hydrofoil doesn't get blown up or something stupid. If it does, the bio-island is everyone's exit, and we are now playing a game where everyone wants the same thing.

And no. What deals with ghosts is probably thinking outside the combat formula, which is largely GM-May-I territory, for better or worse. So, good luck. I've offered a few ideas in private chat, and hopefully they are options.
JUSTICAR
player, 1234 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 00:25
  • msg #181

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 179):

Well.. to note ~ they have not come charging into the inside of the Bio-ship... when Hikari announced he had Particle Beam weaponry. Also, Chiroptera keeps hit and running if she were invulnerable.. she likely woundn't do that.  Chances are they do not want us to have time to find out what DOES hurt them or they know we can with what we do have.

I'm waiting for CMZ to find out if they are even inside the ship.. cause if they are not... Hikari plans to set CMZ on fire have him exit one of the hatches A1 or A2...and he will exit A3 and start looking for targets to shoot!  Hopefully this will provide the needed distraction for you all to exit as well...

If they take refuge within the isle..that is fine.. THEY cannot control it either and we can make good our evac on the Shadowhawk... or on the zodiacs.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:30, Sun 22 Jan 2023.
Bellissima
player, 524 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 00:39
  • msg #182

Re: OOC 3

One thing everyone can do, Hold an attack.  If you Hold an attack for when one of them gets in range, then they have to become solid to hit you and you can hit them first.   What Runa tried didn't work because she wasn't holding an attack.
JUSTICAR
player, 1235 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 00:44
  • msg #183

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 182):

Its likely that Runa could hurt Chiroptera IF she is actually some supernatural foe.. Runa is pure divine magic!  No wonder Chiroptera is only hit and run she does not want Runa smacking her with divine power!!!
Senor Garcia
player, 181 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 01:27
  • msg #184

Re: OOC 3

At least we don’t have to worry about a supernatural ninja with acid on his blades to contend with.
JUSTICAR
player, 1236 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 01:42
  • msg #185

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 184):

Tru' Dat!!! And thx!
Winter Herald
player, 436 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 05:54
  • msg #186

Re: OOC 3

On my end, no thanks. Since no one else will, I'll make the firmest statement of my opinion of this violation of this - until now - unspoken take on the idea of helping through the killing of an obstacle in cold blood.

Please stop helping. It wasn't welcome with the brontobear, and it wasn't welcome here.
Runa
player, 227 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 06:02
  • msg #187

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Bellissima (msg # 182):

Its likely that Runa could hurt Chiroptera IF she is actually some supernatural foe.. Runa is pure divine magic!  No wonder Chiroptera is only hit and run she does not want Runa smacking her with divine power!!!

Here is hoping!
Bellissima
player, 525 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 06:16
  • msg #188

Re: OOC 3

Nothing has changed about my opinion of Garcia killing the bodyguard. The only thing is now is not the time to address it because there is a bigger threat out there.
Senor Garcia
player, 182 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 17:10
  • msg #189

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
On my end, no thanks. Since no one else will, I'll make the firmest statement of my opinion of this violation of this - until now - unspoken take on the idea of helping through the killing of an obstacle in cold blood.

Please stop helping. It wasn't welcome with the brontobear, and it wasn't welcome here.

Brontobear was dying, so that was a mercy killing. My strike roll in that situation sucked, so I think it was going to die regardless.

As for the ninja, we are in the middle of combat, where we do not have time to debate things. Bodyguard + Ninja = Bad News, so I killed the bad news before it could become a threat.

Yes, I could have shot him in the knee, but I expect I'd still be getting the amount of grief. But the ninja would still be alive and would probably would have begun throwing knifes or ninja stars, at the PC's and possibly our prisoners.

Bellissima:
Nothing has changed about my opinion of Garcia killing the bodyguard. The only thing is now is not the time to address it because there is a bigger threat out there.


IC actions should have IC consequences, so I actually look forward to the IC discussions as the result of my character's IC actions.

Maybe it will get my character kicked off the team.

Maybe after all the dust settles it turns out my course of action, however immoral it may have been, was the correct thing to do.
Runa
player, 228 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 17:42
  • msg #190

Re: OOC 3

Since Garcia only needed 5 sdc, did she spend all 300 points?
JUSTICAR
player, 1238 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 20:15
  • msg #191

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 186):

To be certain... I as a player am accepting the GM's right to set the narrative and I am rolling with the story he is telling. BUT, no one here is fooled by what happened and Winter is correct that was VERY MUCH 'initially' an unjustified killing! Even now it is at best 'VERY tenuous reason of doubt!'

Hikari may have 360 sight but in the crowed hallway he could not resonably be expected from his positioning see Senor at the very back of the group was aiming his rifle before the ninja Takagawa drew his poisoned kunai to throw at him... BUT still shooting someone in the head because they were going to throw a knife at you when you are in full class 4 hard armor is NOT supportable as a 'threat' to your life!

And we players all know you were acting impatiently and have 'seemed' to consistantly be looking for excuses to use lethal force when you know we already told you ~ we are a law enforcement unit empowered to apprehend criminals not try, judge, and punish them on our whim! Certainly not kill them... unless our lives are directly threatened with immediated clear lethal peril!

You want this in a RP discussion well you will get just that!  It will be up to SSOGM as to what exactly hikari's cameras recorded or did not record and I'll go with that but still Winter is right Senor keeps employing lethal force without clear threat to us or himself without consulting with or warning the rest of the team. That is simply NOT ACCEPTIBLE.  We will be dicusing this as a team no doubt.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:19, Sun 22 Jan 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 754 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 21:35
  • msg #192

Re: OOC 3

That will be an interesting RP.  I would recommend watching something like The Rookie to see how it could proceed.  Within the first few episodes, Nathan Fillion's character shot a suspect who had a gun.
Runa
player, 229 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 22 Jan 2023
at 21:49
  • msg #193

Re: OOC 3

I'm staying out of any OOC arguing.
SSOGM
GM, 863 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 23 Jan 2023
at 05:02
  • msg #194

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Since Garcia only needed 5 sdc, did she spend all 300 points?

No, all Runa could alleviate WAS the five SDC damage. Three of the heroes have suffered that debilitating touch, one will come out of it at the end of this round. I have added Chiroptera's power set to the disallowed power combinations list in Rules Discussions and Decisions
Runa
player, 230 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 23 Jan 2023
at 05:19
  • msg #195

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Runa:
Since Garcia only needed 5 sdc, did she spend all 300 points?

No, all Runa could alleviate WAS the five SDC damage. Three of the heroes have suffered that debilitating touch, one will come out of it at the end of this round. I have added Chiroptera's power set to the disallowed power combinations list in <a href="https://www.rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=70205&ti=1&date=1673354631">Rules Discussions and Decisions</a>

Hurray! That saves her a LOT of points. I'll update the last post to reflect that.
Winter Herald
player, 441 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 25 Jan 2023
at 01:40
  • msg #196

Re: OOC 3

Generally when imitating a voice, I attempt to copy the font and the color. Sometimes I slip and forget to check, but most of the time so far, I've been fairly accurate.
SSOGM
GM, 865 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 25 Jan 2023
at 17:23
  • msg #197

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 196):

Of course, Dr. Phage hasn't been allowed to say anything so you couldn't have heard his voice in the first place.
JUSTICAR
player, 1250 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Wed 25 Jan 2023
at 17:36
  • msg #198

Re: OOC 3

Hikari has heard Dr. Phage's voice, he spoke to him in the back room. But Justicar is unwilling to 'gamble' on this Genius's ingenuity which has been MANIFESTLY Demonstrated!  Hikari Gagged him to deny his teammates of his genius direction in battle and to forestall ANY potential voice activated commands he may have already set for the Bio-ship to obey!  This man is a DANGEROUS Thinker!  And Hikari is CERTAINLY Respecting that!
This message was last edited by the player at 17:37, Wed 25 Jan 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 866 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 25 Jan 2023
at 18:09
  • msg #199

Re: OOC 3

This is true. But Winter Herald wouldn't be able to imitate Dr. Phage as Dr. Phage hasn't been able to speak, except through a gag, enough for Winter Herald to analyze the voice.
Winter Herald
player, 444 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 25 Jan 2023
at 19:51
  • msg #200

Re: OOC 3

Phage has spoken within earshot of Winter Herald. My hearing's amplified, and Phage was not keeping his voice down. I used his font, so it wasn't that long ago, or even particularly quiet.
SSOGM
GM, 868 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 01:03
  • msg #201

Re: OOC 3

Actually, I looked back and discovered there was one time that Dr. Phage spoke where Winter Herald could hear it. Perhaps you can convince the AI that you're Dr. Phage once you find the number to call.
JUSTICAR
player, 1253 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 01:10
  • msg #202

Re: OOC 3

So the file entry on Dr. Phage said he was in the hospital because he'd been exposed to some accident that altered him.  As in metahuman powers?

SSOGM:
"Dr. Javier Lemarr was formerly involved in highly sensitive work for the government, sources claim an attempt to biological engineer agents that would metabolize hazardous waste materials into an energy source. After a lab accident caused by the incompetence of a lab assistant, the doctor was infected with a contaminated specimen of a genetically neutral unicellular organism."

"After a lengthy recovery, and a deep dive into mechanical engineering, the doctor disappeared. A few months later, those with a need for such things found a new source of bio-engineered technology on the dark web. Investigators believe this 'Doctor Phage' is Javier Lemarr, now using his knowledge and intelligence for personal gain. Those that have interacted with 'Doctor Phage' have declared him a psychopathic misanthrope of the worst kind."

This message was last edited by the player at 01:17, Thu 26 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1254 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 01:23
  • msg #203

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 201):

But...keep in mind... on his team is Whisperer... a woman who controls sound.  Would he set a simple voice command in just his voice to be the control key... when she is on the team and might be able to mimic his voice?

It would be a simple matter to have the Voice code only take his commands when spoken in another language he knows or have a suffix word in another language sort of like a 'enter' voice key.  Something only he would know.  Or worse someone speaking in his voice but not giving the correct command phrases would set off failsafe alerts to the AI and a preprogramed set of directives takes over!

I'm just saying playing with this man's toys is a bad idea... we have no idea what his command codes are even if we can call the Bio-ship... he's VERY Cleaver and has made many layered precautions.  Best NOT to mess with it until the situation is under control.  When we have no opponents gunning for us and Belle has the time to do some deep telemechanics probing.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:25, Thu 26 Jan 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 870 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 02:00
  • msg #204

Re: OOC 3

I'm certain Dr. Phage would have pass phrases that only he would know. Or, to make it worse, the commands could have deliberately skewed variables WITHOUT the AI's KNOWING IT. Have they been trained to rotate the cardinal directions 90° clockwise or counterclockwise? Do all numbers have to be spoke as if in base ten but actually indicate base eight?
As GM, I can't say what may or may not constitute a good idea.
Winter Herald
player, 446 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 02:07
  • msg #205

Re: OOC 3

I'm aware of my sensory limitations underwater. I would be able to track sonar underwater, but I lack such a system myself. I have a pair of thermo-lenses in the pack I took from LESP inventory that I accounted for, but those won't help me fight at the same time, if it comes to it. Nightsight systems might take some of the edge off underwater, although those eventually stop helping if one goes too deep.

Plus, you know - having eyes that are immune to pain and infection helps too.

EDIT: The suspense is terrifying! I hope it lasts.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:14, Thu 26 Jan 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1256 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 22:12
  • msg #206

Re: OOC 3

Hello Paragon! Hope you can join us soon!  :)
Winter Herald
player, 447 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 22:20
  • msg #207

Re: OOC 3

Welcome aboard. What a time you walked into.
Senor Garcia
player, 191 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 26 Jan 2023
at 22:26
  • msg #208

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
Welcome aboard. What a time you walked into.

Ditto that here
JUSTICAR
player, 1257 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 07:38
  • msg #209

Re: OOC 3

Oh Dear.  That's not ... suggestively ominous!  'Nothing going on here at the Ex-World Class Supervillain FORCE's Secret International Terrorist's Base.. nothing to see at all ~ Everything's "Normal" here.. move along!'
Runa
player, 234 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 15:49
  • msg #210

Re: OOC 3

Hi Paragon! That's a great superhero name! Looking forward to fun RPing with you here.
Paragon
player, 1 post
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 18:22
  • msg #211

Re: OOC 3

Thanks. I'm looking over all the options given in the rules discussions thread. I am seriously considering the multiple OOC option. I had planned on taking a power that would slow aging anyway, so the having to be older thing wouldn't bother. Just wondering what your takes are on having a character with super powers and being a Natural Genius. Please don't be just polite and go "play what you want," be truthful in how you feel. If it helps I am taking:
Karmic Power
Slow Motion Control
Physical Perfection

and planning to trade some skills for a Martial Art - Drunken Boxing.

The basic idea is to create a character who is totally unaware of her own powers, who insists that this is all because the Universe just favors her (Pronoia, the opposite of paranoia). Most of the abilities are passive, and even the slowing of individuals from slow motion control could be seen as others just having "bad luck." Adding the Natural Genius doubles down on all this, making her insanely skilled and giving her a handful of passive abilities.

This combination, IMHO, doesn't feel OP to me. However I am bringing it here to make sure none of you feels like this would be OP. I will not be upset or hold a grudge by anyone's comments, I want honest opinions, OKAY?
Runa
player, 235 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 18:32
  • msg #212

Re: OOC 3

I can't say that I have ever heard of someone taking that combination. I also haven't heard of that exact line of reasoning for the character's powers or at least their belief. That could be interesting but Karmic power will lean on the GM heavily rather than have set in stone capabilities.

At a glance, it could be interesting RPing with a character like that; that believes they don't really have powers but are instead some favored child of the universe. That could lead to having a mountain sized ego or sense of entitlement, as is human nature but then again, it could also go the other way, where they have an eternally optimistic outlook on life and share that with others. Hard to say until the character comes to life.
Paragon
player, 2 posts
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 18:42
  • msg #213

Re: OOC 3

I am thinking more of the eternally optimistic type, but leaning into the not exactly sane aspect as well. Example:
Because she is confident that the universe won't let her catch any STD, she is more than happy to take any handsome fellow to bed. The other end is also boredom, she is consistently bored because she doesn't really feel at risk, hence taking up police work, becoming a SWAT team member, and eventually placement with a team of "spandexers" all in an effort to feel that thrill.
JUSTICAR
player, 1260 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 18:45
  • msg #214

Re: OOC 3

Eheh. Notntonspoiler anything... but mutiple ooc is possible but its only ever two occ's by the rules as presented un other palladium rules.

Basically you raise to a certain level inan ooc then when you switch to anothr the previous occ's skills and experience are permanently locked at that level and never improve again. All xp goes to your new occ restarting at 1st level and all of its skills and abilities improve from there.  But you do not loose access to your old abilities from your previous occ.

It IS a GM  all as to what new occ is an acceptible change based upon the  jaracter's story an background...and old/current occ.

The character at any point could return to thier old original occ... abandoning the new occ and the new occ would freeze and never improve again, but thisnwould be the very last time a occ change could be made and for the rest of the characters his life they would be that occ.  You could not adopt a third occ only return to a previois occ.

Those are the only occ change possibilities in palladium games for now.

As fornyour chara ters concept I like it... has great RP possibilities! Though one might consider  why the charscter would want to join a team of recognized super powered beings if they truly believe they have no actual powers?  ;)
Paragon
player, 3 posts
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 19:43
  • msg #215

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
I am thinking more of the eternally optimistic type, but leaning into the not exactly sane aspect as well. Example:
Because she is confident that the universe won't let her catch any STD, she is more than happy to take any handsome fellow to bed. The other end is also boredom, she is consistently bored because she doesn't really feel at risk, hence taking up police work, becoming a SWAT team member, and eventually placement with a team of "spandexers" all in an effort to feel that thrill.

I think you missed this one, JUSTICAR.
Chimp Man Z
player, 759 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 19:43
  • msg #216

Re: OOC 3

Should prove interesting.
Winter Herald
player, 448 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 19:52
  • msg #217

Re: OOC 3

Well, I don't have any superpowers, and I'm on the team. So I don't see an issue with Paragon "not having powers."

Gonna be honest - your build is probably broken in some way I haven't really thought about, because it's not my game and I don't have to try to anticipate you. That's part of Heroes Unlimited. There are so many ways to break this game it loops around to becoming balanced, because Palladium. So, it looks fine to me, as long as you enjoy playing it.
Paragon
player, 4 posts
Fri 27 Jan 2023
at 20:15
  • msg #218

Re: OOC 3

Okay so I should have read this more closely, just like always.

quote:
Multiple O.C.C.'s

You say that instead of a young, naive superhero trying to find his place in the world you desire to roleplay an older and more mature and ultra-experienced person attempting to come to grips with their new world as a superhero? Fine, I've got a house rule for that.
An option for Special Training: The Ancient Master
Seasoned Adventurers - Unaltered humans who've been fighting the good (or bad) fight so long they've become legends in their own time. This category is based on The Ancient Master, and hereby dubbed Special Training: Multiple O.C.C.s
Any of these O.C.C.s from Ninjas & Superspies and Mystic China can be chosen
Philosopher Martial Artist (Chun Tzu)
Weapon-Based Martial Artist (Jian Shih)
Meditative Martial Artist
Open Hand Martial Artist
Antiquarian O.C.C.
Capitalist Entrepreneur O.C.C
Dedicated Martial Artist O.C.C.
Worldly Martial Artist O.C.C.
Gadgeteer Agent O.C.C.
Operative Agent O.C.C.
Private Eye O.C.C.
Professional Free Agent O.C.C.
Thief Free Agent O.C.C.
Wandering Free Agent O.C.C.
Academy Officer O.C.C.
Commando Mercenary O.C.C.
Veteran Grunt O.C.C.
Options
Use the selected O.C.C. to complete the character's education and background, advance as normal from level one
Take a pool of 60,000 experience points, and advance the character to some level prior to switching O.C.Cs.
To be able to switch O.C.C.s the character must lack one experience point from advancing to a new level.
Switching O.C.C.s results in the skills from the original O.C.C becoming frozen at that level.
The character's level doesn't advance till the character has earned or consumed from the pool the same number of experience points as were used to advance the previous O.C.C. to its level.
Changing O.C.C.s
The original O.C.C. determines the starting skill list. These skills advance normally as long as the O.C.C. continues.
When transitioning into a new O.C.C.
the original O.C.C. primary skills are frozen
The primary skills for the new O.C.C. are chosen
any of these skills that are duplicates of skills from the original O.C.C. are un-frozen within the new O.C.C., starting at the same proficiency level as in the original O.C.C.
The number of frozen skills in the original O.C.C. are counted.
This is the number of non-duplicated skills in the new O.C.C. allowed
The skills in the new O.C.C. beyond this number can be added, but will remain frozen at their starting proficiency
The number of secondary skills in the new O.C.C. are the number of secondary skills in the original O.C.C. that are unfrozen
New secondary skills are NOT selected.
Hand to hand skills from the original O.C.C. are frozen at that O.C.C.'s level.
New hand to hand skills begin at level 1, and advance normally.
If the original hand to hand skill is an option for the new O.C.C., choosing that hand to hand skill unfreezes it.
When the new O.C.C. reaches the same level as the original O.C.C, its frozen hand to hand skill will be un-frozen and continue to advance.
Equipment
considered the accumulation of their many professions, the character has
$50,000 worth of vehicle(s)
$100,000 for a workshops/labs/equipment/weapons


Given this I am going to have to go to my trusty N&SS book to see if this is actually worth going to the trouble.
Paragon
player, 5 posts
Sat 28 Jan 2023
at 00:25
  • msg #219

Re: OOC 3

Nope not worth it.
Winter Herald
player, 449 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 28 Jan 2023
at 01:46
  • msg #220

Re: OOC 3

Usually, if you are doing something like that, it is because you want to combine unique OCC features together for some weird purpose only you understand, and may or may not reveal through your actions.
JUSTICAR
player, 1265 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 04:05
  • msg #221

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Paragon (msg # 215):

You posted just before I posted a reply...lol.  Didn't see your post until I'd posted.
Runa
player, 236 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 04:56
  • msg #222

Re: OOC 3

Who is wounded? I thought everyone had been healed?
JUSTICAR
player, 1266 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 05:30
  • msg #223

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 222):

Justicar is speaking in broad terms we have people who are hindered.. but that would require even more explanation but we are definitely not at 100% so it was just easier to say we have injured.  Less explanation.
Runa
player, 237 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 05:32
  • msg #224

Re: OOC 3

Got it, just making sure. ^_^
Winter Herald
player, 452 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 14:40
  • msg #225

Re: OOC 3

Recorded damage. Given Winter Herald's objectives, this is going to have an interesting series of interactions about to occur.
JUSTICAR
player, 1270 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 29 Jan 2023
at 16:53
  • msg #226

Re: OOC 3

Ok. Scene setting post in the San Sebastian isle finalized.. go team!
Winter Herald
player, 454 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 00:30
  • msg #227

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald is confirming his belief that harming this being in front of him will not affect Holly Cook one bit. I suspect Lady A will not be volunteering any means of bringing Holly back, and I suspect she would legitimately believe none to exist. She's been rather direct.

But, confirmation is a nice thing to have, even if it endangers me to get it.
Senor Garcia
player, 193 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 02:29
  • msg #228

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
Ok. Scene setting post in the San Sebastian isle finalized.. go team!

What’s this mean?
Winter Herald
player, 455 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 02:33
  • msg #229

Re: OOC 3

Based on a quick skim, it seems to be a "beach episode."
JUSTICAR
player, 1272 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 05:13
  • msg #230

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 228):

Sorry. Should have just sent that as a pm to only  those involved.
Senor Garcia
player, 194 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 05:34
  • msg #231

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 228):

Sorry. Should have just sent that as a pm to only  those involved.

How do you know that Senor Garcia wasn’t among the mercs that helped the team out?
SSOGM
GM, 876 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 16:47
  • msg #232

Re: OOC 3

[Private to JUSTICAR: there are no interfaces, including keyboards, on the submarine bridge]
If Señor Garcia had been with the mercs at the island, they wouldn't have been so severely trounced. The only other force at the island was Lt. Smohk and his people.
BTW, I'm not sure if I made it clear, but the soldiers that are with Lt. Smohk now weren't on board when he took you to the island.
JUSTICAR
player, 1274 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 17:26
  • msg #233

Re: OOC 3

Changed post.
Senor Garcia
player, 196 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 19:00
  • msg #234

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
If Señor Garcia had been with the mercs at the island, they wouldn't have been so severely trounced. The only other force at the island was Lt. Smohk and his

I know during character generation that it was mentioned I may have been there. Thanks for clearing up.

SSOGM:
BTW, I'm not sure if I made it clear, but the soldiers that are with Lt. Smohk now weren't on board when he took you to the island.

Ok so they might on the island or off somewhere else.

Good to know. I just hope none of them show up with I’ll intentions for the team.
SSOGM
GM, 877 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 30 Jan 2023
at 19:50
  • msg #235

Re: OOC 3

No. I meant they weren't aboard Gemini when it took the group to San Sebastian Island the first time. You know, when they only had coxswains and engineers for the boats they were carried to the island on. Back when some senator called the boat to tell them to stand down, just before the senator melted down, herself.
Winter Herald
player, 457 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 16:32
  • msg #236

Re: OOC 3

Smohk is rather transparently working for a private interest. Whatever he's up to, it might be using military resources, but the presence of mercenaries implies a political or corporate interest, someone paying out of pocket. When the military is aiming to achieve a military objective, they don't need mercenaries - they can just get a bunch of excitable Marines to go mess someone up, and give them SeaBee "Can Do" support for anything weird.

That, or several politicians or corporate interests who are interested in specifically paper recorded documentation they knew would be there. Which is noteworthy that they knew it was there, and not transferred digitally and shredded. I find that assurance fascinating.
JUSTICAR
player, 1276 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 17:09
  • msg #237

Re: OOC 3

Honestly ~ ALL of this is conjecture and speculation.  Clearly Lt Smokh feels his actions are being monitored by persons unknown to us. As to why he's requesting this of the heros on the downlow WE have no idea! We 'might' get some idea as to the 'who' he is concerned about watching his actions and the 'why' of it once we have found this data copied it and perused it ourselves.  I think only then should WE decide what to do with it.

It would be prudent not to turn over such info without some knowledge of its details...but some of us present on the team may have prexisting 'Oaths of Service' that they may still take quite seriously!

Hikari as a non-US citizen does not feel its his place to have any say in such semi-political and internal US matters and will not push to know what the documents contain when found.

But he would suggust reading copying and understanding the content of such sensitive intel before turning it over or deciding to sit on it.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:12, Tue 31 Jan 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 197 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 17:27
  • msg #238

Re: OOC 3

Señor Garcia is definitely one of those who thinks Lt Smok hasn’t been honest since he’s got whatever automatons or augments masquerading as US Navy SEALs.

Although SEALs are the appropriate unit to send onto an unknown island. You wouldn’t send in a bunch of excitable U.S Marines to conduct an Amphibious raid using AAVs or Zodiacs.
JUSTICAR
player, 1277 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 17:49
  • msg #239

Re: OOC 3

Eh. I think Lt Smokh has been as 'honest' as he can be in keeping national sensitive intel secret and obeying his direct orders as he can be!

His 'Oath of Service' is to the US Navy and to protect the interests of the US military... that means following orders.

I'm certain there is stuff he just CANNOT tell non-US Military below a certain clearance and most of us do not fit into that chain of command!

Also. Consider this... Lt Smokh knows not only his chain of command but also the US government - sitting Senators, Congressmen including sitting US Judicial courts was infiltrated weeks ago by uncountable robotic-infiltrator Agents!!! His paranoia is not unwarranted! He may not know who he can trust in his chain of command!

Can you imagine the political shit-storm that would come about if 3 to 4 sitting office US Senators and Congressmen, not to mention a few sitting Court were revealed to be robotic-infiltrators under the control of an International Militant Terrorist Organization?

The snap re-elections and investigative congressional oversight committees and justice department & Central Intelligence, not to mention Department of Homeland Security Agencies opening their own investigative cases ALL fighting to get to the bottom of what happened and how long it had been occurring?
This message was last edited by the player at 15:25, Wed 01 Feb 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 766 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 18:10
  • msg #240

Re: OOC 3

Negative.  As an enlisted man, my Oath was to protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States, and obey the LAWFUL order of the PotUSA and the officers above me.  Officers do NOT take the same oath.  An officer's Oath of Commission leaves out obeying lawful orders, it is only to protect and defend the CotUSA.  There is no oath to any particular military branch.  The CotUSA ALWAYS COMES FIRST.
JUSTICAR
player, 1278 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 18:21
  • msg #241

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 240):

Perhaps he is trying to get around unlawful orders in the only way he knows without being sidelined?

We really do not know... nor can know until we know what intel he is trying to secure.
Bellissima
player, 536 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 18:25
  • msg #242

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
Señor Garcia is definitely one of those who thinks Lt Smok hasn’t been honest since he’s got whatever automatons or augments masquerading as US Navy SEALs.

Although SEALs are the appropriate unit to send onto an unknown island. You wouldn’t send in a bunch of excitable U.S Marines to conduct an Amphibious raid using AAVs or Zodiacs.


Actually Bellissima has confirmed they are human and has a good idea of what organization they work with.  She tried to transmit that information to Garcia telepathically, but apparently that information was not delivered.
Senor Garcia
player, 198 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 20:30
  • msg #243

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 242):

Bellissima’s telepathic message is actually why Señor Garcia doesn’t trust them. It’s also why he hope they don’t show up with ill intentions or wanting the files he’s currently looking for in game.
Paragon
player, 6 posts
Lucky Ducky
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 20:32
  • msg #244

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 243):

Paranoid much? ;-D
Senor Garcia
player, 199 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 20:42
  • msg #245

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 243):

Paranoid much? ;-D

Yeah well Señor Garcia didn’t get to be an old man in a profession where most individuals die young by not questioning things, and being a little paranoid.
Chimp Man Z
player, 767 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 20:52
  • msg #246

Re: OOC 3

Paranoia.  It's only insanity if someone is not out to get you.
Winter Herald
player, 458 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 21:14
  • msg #247

Re: OOC 3

Garcia and I actually agree in this particular situation. What we do about it was and is going to be very different, but there is agreement, and I don't regard an ability to pick up clues around you as paranoia. It's paranoia when there is no grounding in reality - it's observation when there is.
Chimp Man Z
player, 768 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 22:30
  • msg #248

Re: OOC 3

An old friend of mine from the military would say that paranoia is only heightened awareness.
SSOGM
GM, 878 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 31 Jan 2023
at 23:58
  • msg #249

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
Señor Garcia is definitely one of those who thinks Lt Smok hasn’t been honest since he’s got whatever automatons or augments masquerading as US Navy SEALs.

Although SEALs are the appropriate unit to send onto an unknown island. You wouldn’t send in a bunch of excitable U.S Marines to conduct an Amphibious raid using AAVs or Zodiacs.

Unless your position was becoming compromised and you had to use whatever unit you felt would hold personal loyalty over any other.

Chimp Man Z:
An old friend of mine from the military would say that paranoia is only heightened awareness.

Yes, but if he's like the rest of us he always said it quietly.
Winter Herald
player, 459 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 00:02
  • msg #250

Re: OOC 3

You send in the Marines when you've decided every problem suddenly looks like a nail, because the Marines are some rather furious hammers. They won't be elegant, but they'll get it done. As for SeaBees, there is no problem they will not try to solve with C4. They're like Scorch from Republic Commando, recommending satchel charges for nearly everything.
SSOGM
GM, 879 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 00:09
  • msg #251

Re: OOC 3

Why is it sad that this description of SeaBees makes me laugh?
Paragon
player, 7 posts
Lucky Ducky
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 00:11
  • msg #252

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 250):

Have you not heard of Force Recon?
Chimp Man Z
player, 769 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 00:13
  • msg #253

Re: OOC 3

That, my dear Paragon, would be where my friend is from.  Go figure, a former Army commo puke being close friends with a former Force Recon Jarhead.
Winter Herald
player, 460 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 01:34
  • msg #254

Re: OOC 3

Well, Paragon's coming in with company. I'm seeing a new name - Captain Justice.
JUSTICAR
player, 1279 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 01:38
  • msg #255

Re: OOC 3

Interesting... Captain Justice... another attempt at a super soldier character?

We've had Tyger, Patriot, and Crusader.. hope they last longer...
This message was last edited by the player at 01:40, Wed 01 Feb 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 200 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 03:52
  • msg #256

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
You send in the Marines when you've decided every problem suddenly looks like a nail, because the Marines are some rather furious hammers. They won't be elegant, but they'll get it done.


Thanks for the compliment, but we Marines can be elegant when required.

JUSTICAR:
Interesting... Captain Justice... another attempt at a super soldier character?

We've had Tyger, Patriot, and Crusader.. hope they last longer...

You forgot about Señor Garcia, but he’s technically a super sailor.
JUSTICAR
player, 1280 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 04:16
  • msg #257

Re: OOC 3

I was only referring to previous super-soldiers who have left... Senor is still with us...
Paragon
player, 8 posts
Lucky Ducky
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 04:26
  • msg #258

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 255):

Paragon, in her opinion isn't super. She is currently a US Marshal, Special Operations Group, Elite Agent III. So I suppose as close as possible. Anyhow, sticking with Paragon. Capt. Justice will have to be someone else.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:37, Wed 01 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1281 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 04:52
  • msg #259

Re: OOC 3

Yeah, just about Everyone on the team.. has had some previous military or paramilitray experience... EXCEPT Justicar.  Hikari is just a Mutant Teen Genius Exoskeleton pilot...
Bellissima
player, 537 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 05:05
  • msg #260

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima has zero military experience, she is just a college student. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 05:06, Wed 01 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1282 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 05:09
  • msg #261

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 260):

That IS true...we are the only 'real' civilians here.

Hikari literally IS a 'Self-made' warrior.  Two normal hand to hand styles - Expert and Martial... several WP.  The only hole in his training perhaps now is WP-Energy Weapon... but its nearly impossible to get that skill unless you start with it in your occ!
This message was last edited by the player at 05:15, Wed 01 Feb 2023.
Bellissima
player, 538 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Wed 1 Feb 2023
at 17:23
  • msg #262

Re: OOC 3

Waiting to post after I get a question answered by SSOGM. :)
Winter Herald
player, 463 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 15:04
  • msg #263

Re: OOC 3

So, have we been formally split into two groups at this point? Because that's going to make this very interesting if we have.
JUSTICAR
player, 1287 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 15:10
  • msg #264

Re: OOC 3

Unfortunately.. I believe so...

However, we should wait for SSOGM to confirm everyone's location.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:13, Thu 02 Feb 2023.
Runa
player, 242 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 16:37
  • msg #265

Re: OOC 3

I was tracking that Runa is in the submarine, having carried/escorted Phage and Trishula aboard it.
JUSTICAR
player, 1288 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 16:50
  • msg #266

Re: OOC 3

OPPS! Sorry! Thought I'd missed someone!
Senor Garcia
player, 201 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 17:17
  • msg #267

Re: OOC 3

The way I have read the posts here is where I think everyone is.

Winter Herald = still on island
JUSTICAR, Bellissima, Runa, Provider, and Dr Phage = Submarine CIC/bridge
Chimp Man Z = Submarine sail (he must’ve close the hatch, otherwise the CIC/bridge of the sun located directly below the sail would be filing up with water)
Senior Garcia = Submarine Captains stateroom looking for info (screwing off and doing his own thing as usual)
Runa
player, 243 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 17:21
  • msg #268

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
OPPS! Sorry! Thought I'd missed someone!

No worries
Chimp Man Z
player, 772 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 17:44
  • msg #269

Re: OOC 3

CMZ is stunned by another Chiroptera attack.  He did not close the hatch.
JUSTICAR
player, 1290 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 17:53
  • msg #270

Re: OOC 3

I wonder if the AI's have an automatic way to close their environment hatches in the case of them performing and emergency submerging?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:54, Thu 02 Feb 2023.
Runa
player, 245 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 18:03
  • msg #271

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
CMZ is stunned by another Chiroptera attack.  He did not close the hatch.

Posted before I saw this. Those damn intangible attackers are really annoying, aren't they? Even more frustrating is that it seems Runa's healing ability can't restore whatever it is they are doing to the victims.
Senor Garcia
player, 202 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 18:05
  • msg #272

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
I wonder if the AI's have an automatic way to close their environment hatches in the case of them performing and emergency submerging?

Let’s hope so, because the water pressure at even 100-150 feet is much greater ten at sea level….if you ever watched the beginning of The Abyss then you’d have an idea of how fast a submarine can fill with water.

In regards to the
JUSTICAR
player, 1291 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 18:20
  • msg #273

Re: OOC 3

If Runa is rocking "supernatural strength" she's plenty strong enough to close that hatch!
This message was last edited by the player at 18:20, Thu 02 Feb 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 774 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 18:33
  • msg #274

Re: OOC 3

CMZ has Superhuman PS, so we should Get 'Er Done.
Runa
player, 246 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 18:39
  • msg #275

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
If Runa is rocking "supernatural strength" she's plenty strong enough to close that hatch!

Not even close. Just regular human strength for a PS of 20. She can lift 800lbs according to the chart, not sure if that will translate to 800lbs of pull down force.

I really wish Power Touch had been written better. As it is, it can give temporary boosts to people's speed, hit points, SDC, jumping ability an even give them an AR rating. What it can't do it boost anything else like say PS, PP or PE. Doesn't matter what level you reach, the only thing that changes with level advancement is duration of the boosts. You don't even get an increase to the number of power points you get to spend in a day.

Don't get me wrong, I chose it for the healing ability, which is simply the best in the entire system. Point for point, nothing beats this power in HP/SDC to Point Cost ratio. Throw in its ability to do the same for broken non-living things and its a solid major ability. I just wish it got better with advancement.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:14, Thu 02 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1292 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 20:12
  • msg #276

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 274):

THAT Should do it!
JUSTICAR
player, 1293 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 20:40
  • msg #277

Re: OOC 3

How could Chiroptera close the hatch if she was incorporeal? Did she take two actions at once cause at first she's incorporeal and passes through CMZ next she is solid?

You SSOGM know why I'm asking how fast an incorporeal being can switch between forms ~ it's important!!!

Can an incorporeal being switch forms as a non-action?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:45, Thu 02 Feb 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 775 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 21:16
  • msg #278

Re: OOC 3

I know phasing can be used as a dodge.
JUSTICAR
player, 1296 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 21:37
  • msg #279

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 278):

That is fine... it takes an action to do a dodge.  It uses up actions to attack. Technically, CMZ should be getting the chance to dodge everytime she tries to 'pass through' him!

It is no cooincedence they never try that on Justicar... cause likely his energy weaponry would hurt!

Or potentially Chiroptera is insubstantial becuae she is a misty formed and can not pass through an environmentally sealed non-organic object?  The bioship is organic sobmaybe chiroptera can pass through it liek any other living being, notice she did not just pass through the metal hull hatch of the sub... but was waiting on the other side for someone to open it?

Though she did pass through Winter... maybe he was not large enough to bar her misty from?

Though she 'seems' more like living darkness... 'shrug'?

Both Whisperer and Chiroptera have stayed out of Justicar's sights ~ they clearly do not want him to find out exactly what type of energy hurts them!
This message was last edited by the player at 21:53, Thu 02 Feb 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 464 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 21:49
  • msg #280

Re: OOC 3

She might think you are a robot. She passed through me, after all, and learned that. If she learns you are not a robot, she'll either lose her fear of you, or opt to save you for last due to the potential for energy weaponry.

As for how to fight incorporeal foes, I've got a few ideas. First, yes, they are aggravating because it is always easier for them to hurt you than the other way around. And one needs to remember that barring the possessing of something you do not have right now, force versus force will likely fail.

So, what does hurt a ghost? Usually some kind of energy does the trick, and you have two kinds of energy in abundance around you that can be readily weaponized - electricity, and the potential for fire. You just require a means of transmission, which is, unfortunately, an exorcise of the imagination followed by an exorcise of application.

And the first of those is a hell of a lot harder to do than the second.
JUSTICAR
player, 1298 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 22:01
  • msg #281

Re: OOC 3

Yeah. That's also a point... she may consider me a robot.

I know its frustrating... but Winter is totally correct. Heros Unlimited is a little like 'The Incredibles' in the force of reality and physics. Mr Incredible found out that punching an opponent is not always the way to win a fight one has to take in their surroundings an be clever in empolying what the battlefield or environment can be used as a weapon sometimes.

Its what separates AVENGERS level heroes from the lesser experienced super teams like the New Mutants or Power Pack.
Chimp Man Z
player, 776 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 22:12
  • msg #282

Re: OOC 3

Chiroptera seems to have the power Bio-Ghost.  She turns intangible just long enough to drain life energy from someone, which causes a loss of Hit Points and some pretty nasty side effects as well.  This drain, if done quickly, enough times, will heal her and boost her own abilities.
Bellissima
player, 542 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 23:04
  • msg #283

Re: OOC 3

Huh, I am using the LESPRadio2 channel.
JUSTICAR
player, 1300 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 23:10
  • msg #284

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 283):

Bellissima:
Bellissima frowned as she looked at the others,  She asked over the group radio to everyone in the submarine.


Notes:
Light Armor: AR 10

Auto Parry Rolls: 13:41, Today: Bellissima rolled 29,22,22,21 using 1d20+9,1d20+9,1d20+9,1d20+9.  Auto Parry.

ISP: 4/156
4th round of combat
Abilities active:
Telemechanics: 10 mins still active: 5 feet range, 18 mins.
Super Telekinesis:7 mins, lift up to 300 lbs,
See the Invisible: 3 mins

always active:
Mind Block
Sixth Sense: 2 ISP/activation


This is all I see.. was that all?
What did she ask over the group radio?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:11, Thu 02 Feb 2023.
Bellissima
player, 543 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 23:32
  • msg #285

Re: OOC 3

See if that worked?  I tried it again. If doesn't work this time, will just post in open.
JUSTICAR
player, 1301 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Thu 2 Feb 2023
at 23:58
  • msg #286

Re: OOC 3

That's really weird... no change belle still nothing...
Bellissima
player, 544 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 00:02
  • msg #287

Re: OOC 3

Yes it is, but you should now be able to see it.
Winter Herald
player, 465 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 00:03
  • msg #288

Re: OOC 3

I can. If anything, the coloring to make it red didn't work, because reasons. Sometimes RPOL's a little on the weird side.

EDIT: Depending on where CMZ actually is, I will be editing my own post. If he is still on the submarine, I will be grouping up with Lady Armageddon and asking her what her plan was for taking over the bio-ship's controls. If CMZ is here, I will group up with him and vouch for his right to live... although I suspect he could take a blast or two from that funky void stuff.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:34, Fri 03 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1302 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 00:20
  • msg #289

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 287):

Ok updated my reply...
JUSTICAR
player, 1303 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 00:44
  • msg #290

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 282):

Hmmmm... good point... not sure what affects a bio-ghost power set.
Winter Herald
player, 466 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 00:50
  • msg #291

Re: OOC 3

Just read Intangibility. My guesses weren't off by much, although it had one I admit to not expecting. Also read Bio-Ghost.
JUSTICAR
player, 1304 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 04:11
  • msg #292

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 291):

Huh. Read Bio-ghost... yeah that has some Very Specific limitations that have been in retrospect been in full effect in this combat.  Stuff  ~ of course Hikari knows nothing about!
Chimp Man Z
player, 777 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 04:33
  • msg #293

Re: OOC 3

It is likely Jacob's first time dealing with it, too.
Bellissima
player, 545 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:00
  • msg #294

Re: OOC 3

Have we confirmed whether Z is inside the Sub?

Have we confirmed where Chiro is?  And Where Runa is in relation to Chiro?
Senor Garcia
player, 207 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:02
  • msg #295

Re: OOC 3

The GM has not posted, so there is no confirmation yet.
Winter Herald
player, 467 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:07
  • msg #296

Re: OOC 3

As Wonka once said, "The suspense is terrifying! I hope it lasts."

Where I am, I'm seeing two new characters joining, the party split into two groups, and a lot of posts since the GM's last post and probably a hell of a lot of PMs. So I understand a delay.
Bellissima
player, 546 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:18
  • msg #297

Re: OOC 3

Yup, and we should delay a bit and let him catch up so that we can operate on accurate information instead of assumptions.
JUSTICAR
player, 1308 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:21
  • msg #298

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 297):

Too true.  I'm not sure if the Submarine undocked due to Your efforts, Belle, or mine... makes a big difference which it is...

And Hikari is pretty sure trying to get Dr. Phage to 'help' will make maters FAR FAR Worse.  He is completely untrustworthy and given ANY opportunity to do Anything he will try to harm us All ~ even if its not in his best interests to do so.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:24, Fri 03 Feb 2023.
Bellissima
player, 547 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:24
  • msg #299

Re: OOC 3

yup, which is why I am waiting for confirmations before I post to get accurate information.
JUSTICAR
player, 1309 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:29
  • msg #300

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 299):

Hopefully the AI's will not react as badly as Hikari knows they could...
SSOGM
GM, 884 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:29
  • msg #301

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z, message 231:
Where is Winter Herald?  CMZ looks about.  We can not leave him by himself.  He is one of us.
He turns to Señor Garcia.  See if those files are here.  I'm going after that meshugennah android.
He turns and heads back towards the entry hatch.

SSOGM, message 236:
<quote Chimp Man Z>Chimp Man Z comes out of the hatch, face to face with Chiroptera. Oddly, she grins at him and says, "wow, Chimp Man Z! Twice in one day. This is a real treat." Then she charges through him, again.

I believe that suggests Chimp Man Z is on the Aeaea with Winter Herald, Lady Armageddon, and Chiroptera.
JUSTICAR
player, 1310 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:31
  • msg #302

Re: OOC 3

So this action by the player is discounted?

Chimp Man Z:
CMZ staggers down the ladder and slumps against the wall.  Damn butch, he slurs a bit.


Also Does THIS submarine have an airlock?  It's certainly only on the outside a Russian sub anymore.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:34, Fri 03 Feb 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 468 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 06:35
  • msg #303

Re: OOC 3

Ah, so I don't need to modify my post in retrospect, and I did hear him getting violenced. Excellent news - means I can inform or force Chiropractor to stop realigning CMZ's spine already.
Bellissima
player, 548 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 07:32
  • msg #304

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM has described the Sub as having an Airlock, that is where the Sub connected to the Bio-Ship.
SSOGM
GM, 886 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 13:45
  • msg #305

Re: OOC 3

The bio-ship had enclosed the sub in a sheath of material. The airlock was on the bio-ship, not the submarine.
Bellissima
player, 549 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 14:17
  • msg #306

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 305):

Ahh, that explains things.
Senor Garcia
player, 208 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 14:33
  • msg #307

Re: OOC 3

So is Runa on the sub or is she on the bio ship?
Runa
player, 250 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 14:50
  • msg #308

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
So is Runa on the sub or is she on the bio ship?

I'm on the sub, having carried/escorted Phage and Trishula on to it.
Runa
player, 251 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 15:52
  • msg #309

Re: OOC 3

OK so Runa DIDNT go to the aid of CMZ because he wasn't on the sub, like his post said?
Senor Garcia
player, 209 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 16:03
  • msg #310

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
OK so Runa DIDNT go to the aid of CMZ because he wasn't on the sub, like his post said?

I guess so? We probably need GM clarification.
Chimp Man Z
player, 779 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 17:18
  • msg #311

Re: OOC 3

Runa probably got to the hatch as it CMZ was closing it.  With all the water, he likely would not have seen her coming.
SSOGM
GM, 887 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 18:40
  • msg #312

Re: OOC 3

With CMZ's movement and actions at the time, he could've left the sub, passed through the airlock, and been at the hatch to the island surface. That's where I thought he was heading as he intended to assist Winter Herald.
Runa
player, 253 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 18:43
  • msg #313

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
With CMZ's movement and actions at the time, he could've left the sub, passed through the airlock, and been at the hatch to the island surface. That's where I thought he was heading as he intended to assist Winter Herald.

OK, so just tell me where Runa is. Is she at a hatch trying to close it with CMZ? Is she not? If not, where is she?
JUSTICAR
player, 1314 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 19:05
  • msg #314

Re: OOC 3

Likely with the GM ruling Runa is at the closed pressure hatch in the submarine sail.
Runa
player, 254 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 19:30
  • msg #315

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
Likely with the GM ruling Runa is at the closed pressure hatch in the submarine sail.

OK but is CMZ and Winter there too?
JUSTICAR
player, 1315 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 20:14
  • msg #316

Re: OOC 3

Nope. They are on the bio-ship that the submarine has detached from. You cannot reach them they are on the other vehicle the bio-ship.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:15, Fri 03 Feb 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 470 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 21:11
  • msg #317

Re: OOC 3

I'm holding off until Schrodinger's Runa has been resolved. I have two possible tracks of reality occurring at the same time, and while I am tempted to post them both and just go back in delete one later, I think I'll just wait until I have it confirmed. I have most of a plan in place for getting out of this, at least the parts I can plan.

Mostly, however, this is going to involve a lot of improvisation.
Paragon
player, 9 posts
Lucky Ducky
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 21:17
  • msg #318

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 317):

So 12% of a plan then?
Chimp Man Z
player, 781 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 21:36
  • msg #319

Re: OOC 3

Closer to 11%.
Runa
player, 255 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 21:40
  • msg #320

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
Closer to 11%.

We have a plan? When did that happen?
Chimp Man Z
player, 782 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 21:46
  • msg #321

Re: OOC 3

We DID....
Winter Herald
player, 471 posts
AR 15, SDC 581/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 3 Feb 2023
at 23:07
  • msg #322

Re: OOC 3

I have had a plan since the mission began, even as the specifics changed, because the information we had was still relevant. Even when I scuttled Plan A due to resource conflict, there has always been the faith everyone else will behave competently, know what they are doing, and do it. This faith has been mostly well placed, believe it or not.

Primary mission objective has been nearly resolved, at least as far as Winter Herald is concerned.
Primary distraction is unresolved, and stands between secondary objective and himself.
Secondary mission objective is unresolved due to distraction.
Tertiary mission objective is in a borderline state due to distraction.

The primary question for Winter Herald is time. Depending on the strength of the lights on the bio-ship, I might have as much as I need, or I might have twelve hours of function remaining.

I have a plan for me. The rest of you just need to play to your strengths, and do so confidently.
JUSTICAR
player, 1317 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 12:01
  • msg #323

Re: OOC 3

DING! Justicar is now 6th level.
Winter Herald
player, 473 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 12:47
  • msg #324

Re: OOC 3

I do not intend to tally up Winter Herald until he's had rest, or I'm given the go-ahead. I have recorded the last time I stopped tallying up his XP. I will have much to review when I level him up.
SSOGM
GM, 889 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 13:52
  • msg #325

Re: OOC 3

There are liable to be MANY levels advanced after this one.
BTW, decompression sickness is an issue beyond a depth of nine meters. Just thought I should throw that out.
Chimp Man Z
player, 784 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 17:57
  • msg #326

Re: OOC 3

Shouldn't affect CMZ.  Much.
Winter Herald
player, 474 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 18:20
  • msg #327

Re: OOC 3

I am amused that the robot, who cannot drown, is one of the few who can swim.
Senor Garcia
player, 212 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 18:28
  • msg #328

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
I am amused that the robot, who cannot drown, is one of the few who can swim.


I find it really funny how many Palladium players do not take the swimming skill during character creation.
Runa
player, 257 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 18:58
  • msg #329

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
There are liable to be MANY levels advanced after this one.
BTW, decompression sickness is an issue beyond a depth of nine meters. Just thought I should throw that out.

Woohoo! might make it to level 4!
Chimp Man Z
player, 785 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 19:25
  • msg #330

Re: OOC 3

Monkeys and apes, in general, fear and hate water (except orangutans), but CMZ can swim.  All my characters take it as a Secondary at least.
Everybody makes fun of the character whose main power is breathing underwater, until their characters drown.
SSOGM
GM, 890 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 20:32
  • msg #331

Re: OOC 3

Yes, and everyone also understands that learning to avoid decompression sickness occurs with skill in SCUBA, not just from swimming, right?
Chimp Man Z
player, 786 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 21:07
  • msg #332

Re: OOC 3

I knew about the bends before I took SCUBA lessons.
Senor Garcia
player, 213 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 21:54
  • msg #333

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
I knew about the bends before I took SCUBA lessons.

Knowing about the bends is much different then knowing how to avoid getting the bends.

I believe Senor Garcia is the only one that has the SCUBA skill, and the knowledge of how to avoid getting decompression sickness in game, which is why he's been pointing it out IC.

[Private to GM:
I bet 500 exp that JUSTICAR will use Karl to look up info on the Bends now in game....
]
Winter Herald
player, 475 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 22:10
  • msg #334

Re: OOC 3

I could probably use a combination of Advanced Mathematics, Military Etiquette aimed at submarine protocols, and Biology to figure out the rate of ascension required to not have your internal organs rupture or his sensory systems sustain serious damage. It has a decent chance of being imprecise, unfortunately, and SCUBA certainly reduces the risk factor by being specific about the knowledge. It is the far superior skill in this instance.

Assuming the worst, I suspect if I went to the surface, I'd likely develop the appearance of a walking, animated, water-logged corpse even if I got the calculations right, because it would have a devastating effect on his synthskin. If he got it wrong, it might damage some of his sensory systems and it would slough the synthskin right off of him. So at this point, ocean pressure might be a concern.

Of course, I might be over-calculating and assuming something right out of The Abyss, which involved extreme physics. I'm not actually an expert on the subject in real life, and I tend to go for the answers that encourage caution and survival when I am in doubt.
Runa
player, 258 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 23:44
  • msg #335

Re: OOC 3

At Fort Tuthill. Reception sucks and varies with time of day.

Just assume Runa will heal or punch people as appropriate.  Yes she can swim and her healing factor makes it so she never tires. Not sure how her healing powers will play out on decompression. Technically it's SDC/Hp damage and her power heals that. The source doesn't matter, just so long as it's SDC or HP.

So if we have to do this the hard way, she can likely keep anyone from dying from the bends.
Winter Herald
player, 476 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 4 Feb 2023
at 23:52
  • msg #336

Re: OOC 3

Well, if you are going on autopilot for this round, I guess that leaves Bellissima.
Runa
player, 260 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 00:03
  • msg #337

Re: OOC 3

Not complete auto pilot. Just only able to post sporadically. Signal is good right now but I expect that to change.
Senor Garcia
player, 214 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 00:11
  • msg #338

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
So if we have to do this the hard way, she can likely keep anyone from dying from the bends.


Can Runa heal permeant damage? The bends causes all sorts of issues within a person's body tissues, so the damage would probably be directly to hit points, some of which can be permanent.
Winter Herald
player, 477 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 00:41
  • msg #339

Re: OOC 3

They got Trishula back up to form, and considering I put a rib through their lung, and they aren't currently dying from that, I think she can handle organ and tissue trauma. It's stuff like (hopefully temporary) soul damage and temporal issues that the healing cannot deal with - yet. I don't know if there are expansions that will allow that later on.
SSOGM
GM, 896 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 03:02
  • msg #340

Re: OOC 3

Some of you have calculated your xp totals (based on posts and skill use), but some haven't. Please do this as I'm already up to my neck in other accounting chores.
Senor Garcia
player, 216 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 03:23
  • msg #341

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Some of you have calculated your xp totals (based on posts and skill use), but some haven't. Please do this as I'm already up to my neck in other accounting chores.

So as players we are responsible for looking through our in game posts and determining...
  • How many IC posts we made?
  • How many skill rolls we made?

JUSTICAR
player, 1321 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 03:29
  • msg #342

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 341):

Its total posts, not just your posts.. ALL posts in a game thread count 5xp each!

And no more than 2 skill use XP for a single post regardless of skill rolls made in excess of 2.  25xp each.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:30, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 217 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 03:39
  • msg #343

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
{Not true. The Justicar is completely undamaged.  His drones have taken some pounding... but the Justicar is not even scratched and it would need to be Severely damaged to endanger its environmental seal or underwater depth integrity.}


You have posted moving your armor unpowered, which infers something damaged it to the point of being disabled and unpowered.
JUSTICAR
player, 1322 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 03:44
  • msg #344

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 343):

Yeah i did. its not 'damaged' its under the effects of a spell.. that has its movement system disabled.. so Hikari was moving it unpowered with his own muscles for a bit.  Does not have to do that now.. he's standing on his two underwater drones with their arms securing him to them with their extended tread units rolling him about.  They cannot fly... but all his drones have ground movement treads and the justicer weight is easily movable by his drones lift capacity.
Senor Garcia
player, 218 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 04:00
  • msg #345

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 341):

Its total posts, not just your posts.. ALL posts in a game thread count 5xp each!


Well this explains why you post so much, your just milking the experience points.

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 343):

Yeah i did. its not 'damaged' its under the effects of a spell.. that has its movement system disabled.. so Hikari was moving it unpowered with his own muscles for a bit.  Does not have to do that now.. he's standing on his two underwater drones with their arms securing him to them with their extended tread units rolling him about.  They cannot fly... but all his drones have ground movement treads and the justicer weight is easily movable by his drones lift capacity.

Movement systems disabled means your suit is having issues, and not operating at peak efficiency. To me not working at peak efficiency = damaged.
Runa
player, 262 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 04:05
  • msg #346

Re: OOC 3

Internet working for the moment. I will try to add up all my posts and skill uses
Runa
player, 263 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 06:06
  • msg #347

Re: OOC 3

It's taken hours thanks to terrible internet but this is what I got:
35 posts
7 skill uses (5 skills used once, 1 skill used twice+)
Winter Herald
player, 479 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 06:12
  • msg #348

Re: OOC 3

Not bad at all, from the sounds of your circumstances.
JUSTICAR
player, 1324 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 13:56
  • msg #349

Re: OOC 3

Modified the San Sebastian Ilse post slightly... forgot to add a portion at the beginning... addressed to Runa and Bellissima.
Runa
player, 265 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 15:40
  • msg #350

Re: OOC 3

Hurray for XP! Only 500 away from level 4!

I posted a response to your edit, Justicar
SSOGM
GM, 899 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 15:48
  • msg #351

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
...snip...

Well this explains why you post so much, your just milking the experience points.

...snip, again...


Please let me know how you feel about the rate at which experience points are being received.
[Secret to not JUSTICAR: Plus, if anyone desires some sort of 'radiation accident' to re-write their character into another category, don't hesitate to suggest it to the GM]
JUSTICAR
player, 1325 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 15:54
  • msg #352

Re: OOC 3

I do not post spuriously.. I ROLE PLAY my character!  Every time I post its to contribute to the story.  I don't post one-line multitudinous posts to 'milk' the system.. No one here does that!
This message was last edited by the player at 16:02, Sun 05 Feb 2023.
Runa
player, 266 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 17:08
  • msg #353

Re: OOC 3

I'm fine with the XP rate. I started at level 2, went to level 3 and pretty close to level 4 since joining. I can't complain about the XP rate. I get it, I joined well after most everyone so Lilibeth/Runa is behind the power curve and that's OK! She fills a slot I don't think anyone else does. There is also a good chance despite the book limitations of her major power, she could grow and become that much more useful to the party without in anyway overshadowing them or becoming some sort of grandstander
Winter Herald
player, 480 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 19:07
  • msg #354

Re: OOC 3

Slow and steady is the robot way, when it comes to XP. I'll manage. Besides, I'm getting close to learning how to properly ask questions to the unwilling.
Runa
player, 267 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 19:47
  • msg #355

Re: OOC 3

Posted in the inside the island thread, a question for CMZ and Winter. ^_^
Winter Herald
player, 481 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 5 Feb 2023
at 20:58
  • msg #356

Re: OOC 3

I noticed. But I posted "last" before the thread jump, so I'm waiting for CMZ to make their post. There's a very real chance they are waiting for me.
Bellissima
player, 551 posts
ISP 4/156
HP::23/23
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 02:52
  • msg #357

Re: OOC 3

I am leaving this game, I have not enjoyed it for a while now.  I hope everyone has a good time.
Winter Herald
player, 482 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 03:19
  • msg #358

Re: OOC 3

Happy hunting then, should you show up again on RPOL. May your next game always be better than your last.
Runa
player, 269 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 03:57
  • msg #359

Re: OOC 3

Bellissima:
I am leaving this game, I have not enjoyed it for a while now.  I hope everyone has a good time.

Sad to hear that but if you aren't having fun, I get it. I hope you find a game you can enjoy.
JUSTICAR
player, 1328 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 04:02
  • msg #360

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 357):

Real sorry to hear that. But if a game is not fun... then you have no obligation to continue with it ~ truly hope you find a game to your liking! Best Wishes maybe we'll play again in some other game at Rpol.
Chimp Man Z
player, 790 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 07:52
  • msg #361

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Bellissima (msg # 357):

Sorry to see you go Bellissima.  Happy gaming.
JUSTICAR
player, 1332 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 11:14
  • msg #362

Re: OOC 3

Hikari has changed OOC to Mutant. All his level 6 Robotic: Exoskeleton - Pilot skills are frozen until any overlaping skills {not many} in Mutant exceed level 6.

He is now also a level 1 Mutant.

In respect to SSOGM's ruling of 'No Megaheroes', a mutant in a robitic exoskeleton we BOTH agreed was skirting that line so Hikari's powers, in general, do not work while wearing his Robotic Exoskeleton.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:25, Mon 06 Feb 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 486 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 23:34
  • msg #363

Re: OOC 3

What Winter Herald is seeking at this point is downright mundane. He wants Vitaly's financial records - what this international globetrotter gives to multiple nations' tax agencies and the expenses he has recorded. He's convinced Vitaly is connected to multiple underworld agencies, and wants to follow the money trail.

In other words, he's hoping to audit Vitaly and either trace the finances, or find discrepancies in his books and trace those, to see if they relate to subjects of interest to Winter Herald's search or future searches. He's hoping Vitaly keeps them in a safe or PC.
JUSTICAR
player, 1336 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 23:43
  • msg #364

Re: OOC 3

That really depends upon whether Vitaly.. "provided" access ~ Somehow... to a decommissioned Victor III Soviet sub... or if Dr. Phage managed it somehow.  I could see Vitaly having access to the sub... and being fooled by the Doctor promising to 'improve' his sub... only to find out later those improvements basically took all control of the vehicle from him.

If the sub was Vitalys to begin with... that data may be onboard.. may.  Another tactic of Russian mafia 'The Vory' criminals is make sure there IS No trail to follow! Destroy all connecting records... someone who would cheat or even simply be suspected to have cheated a Russian mafia 'Vory' crook is not going to be taken to court for legal restitution, they are more likely to end up at the bottom of the Volga in a box of cement.. and all their assets, family, women, children and wealth looted and liquidated to cover the cost of their new 'sleeping' arrangements.

'Shrug'
This message was last edited by the player at 23:46, Mon 06 Feb 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 792 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 6 Feb 2023
at 23:49
  • msg #365

Re: OOC 3

And, thus, it begins....
Winter Herald
player, 487 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 05:42
  • msg #366

Re: OOC 3

I cannot read what Bellissima posted in the radio channel. Is that deliberate? Just making sure.
SSOGM
GM, 903 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 05:51
  • msg #367

Re: OOC 3

I don't remember. There was a second LESPRadio channel created to be more secure. I don't recall whether Winter Herald was linked to it or not.
Winter Herald
player, 488 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 06:02
  • msg #368

Re: OOC 3

I guess I was not.
JUSTICAR
player, 1339 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 06:43
  • msg #369

Re: OOC 3

I cannot read what she posted either... there is no message.
SSOGM
GM, 904 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 08:41
  • msg #370

Re: OOC 3

I had checkmarks in the wrong place, it should be visible now.
JUSTICAR
player, 1343 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 09:54
  • msg #371

Re: OOC 3

Yup!
Winter Herald
player, 490 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 7 Feb 2023
at 11:36
  • msg #372

Re: OOC 3

Visible. A good sign for my character.
Winter Herald
player, 491 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 02:50
  • msg #373

Re: OOC 3

Doubles post, but an observation: to be fair to Runa in our thread, "place bomb in safe location and shoot it with a shotgun" is one of the most common bomb disarming techniques. It will certainly occur to Winter Herald, given how common of a disabling technique that is. He's also programmed to be as calm as they are, and to give the response when asked how he can be so calm as, "If I mess up, it isn't my problem anymore."

And yes, this paragraph is funnier without context to our numbers opposite in the sub.
Runa
player, 273 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 03:04
  • msg #374

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
Doubles post, but an observation: to be fair to Runa in our thread, "place bomb in safe location and shoot it with a shotgun" is one of the most common bomb disarming techniques. It will certainly occur to Winter Herald,

Right, knew that and I will assume Lilibeth knows too based on her military experience.
What I don't know is what Winter meant by "delay approach". Approach of what? IRS audit team? The Noid? Inflation?
Winter Herald
player, 492 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 03:12
  • msg #375

Re: OOC 3

He meant Runa herself, really, but as long as she is not doing that, or misunderstood, that's fine. He can work with that. She might offer an insight he would not be aware of, and ultimately save the day.

His thoughts was that this might be a trap intended to herd everyone into one place for easier disposal, or some kind of weird game. Telling CMZ to back off was pointless - he was already charging in. Asking Runa to delay struck him as logical, but he didn't phrase it clearly.

That didn't happen, and that's fine. Even in this state, he's a quick thinker. You'll note he isn't giving orders, either - his badge is... actually likely on the floor near the ladder. He'll have to pick that up and think about it, if no one else does.
Runa
player, 274 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 03:20
  • msg #376

Re: OOC 3

I thought about it being a trap but shrugged it off. Killing off half the PCs strikes me as a terrible idea I don't think this GM would ever contemplate.

Did you mean to type "delay your approach" to Runa? As it reads, it just says "delay approach". I get that sometimes happens, we think faster than we type and leave out words.
Winter Herald
player, 493 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 03:36
  • msg #377

Re: OOC 3

Nah. You've gone through with the action, and miscommunication is completely natural. One of the things I try to do when speaking as Winter Herald is to prune off words. I do not always succeed, but I try to get to the point.

In this case, he gave a command as the English structure understands it - "Please delay approach." The lack of a subject in the sentence means that the subject is implicit - "(You) Please delay approach." Like someone yelling "Stop!"

But yours is honestly a misunderstanding anyone could have made, and a normal command does include the subject more directly, which means I, the player, was a dummy for being unclear and may or may not be about to face consequences for being a dummy. So it's fine. If we are wrong, let's stay that way.
Runa
player, 275 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 03:47
  • msg #378

Re: OOC 3

^_^

I'm sure it will all work out.
Senor Garcia
player, 223 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 04:04
  • msg #379

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
Doubles post, but an observation: to be fair to Runa in our thread, "place bomb in safe location and shoot it with a shotgun" is one of the most common bomb disarming techniques. It will certainly occur to Winter Herald, given how common of a disabling technique that is. He's also programmed to be as calm as they are, and to give the response when asked how he can be so calm as, "If I mess up, it isn't my problem anymore."

And yes, this paragraph is funnier without context to our numbers opposite in the sub.

All I can guess is you guys are dealing with a bomb....

I look forward to when the scenario is over and the GM opens that thread for all to see.
Chimp Man Z
player, 797 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 05:09
  • msg #380

Re: OOC 3

Being Invulnerable, CMZ has a tendency to run towards these things without a second thought.  Better he be at ground zero that someone else.
Chimp Man Z
player, 798 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 06:52
  • msg #381

Re: OOC 3

CBN?  Where is that from?  I always knew it as NBC.
Winter Herald
player, 495 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 06:58
  • msg #382

Re: OOC 3

I've seen both. NBC was in the older manuals I read. I have a weird feeling the alternative spelling I've read was intended to avoid confusion with the news station. When I've seen both acronyms, they've always meant the same thing.
Chimp Man Z
player, 800 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 06:59
  • msg #383

Re: OOC 3

I've strictly seen it as NBC in the Army.  Even today, from more current soldier.
Winter Herald
player, 496 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 07:04
  • msg #384

Re: OOC 3

Well, that's what I read when I last looked at the acronym, so if they messed it up, so did I. I recalled NBC as well, and figured it had been a change. Either way, potential to kill a lot of people if it is that. Let's hope it is not.

Apparently, it is "ee-ee-uh" Island, roughly.
Runa
player, 276 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 07:15
  • msg #385

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
I've strictly seen it as NBC in the Army.  Even today, from more current soldier.

Now it's CBRN. Been that way for at least a few years.
Winter Herald
player, 498 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 07:18
  • msg #386

Re: OOC 3

Radioactive was added? Fascinating, and I can see why they'd add that. To be fair, that lends credence to the idea Winter Herald's data is somewhat out of date. No data on superheroes in warfare beyond the theoretical, the use of LINE as opposed to MCMAP as his primary fighting style, and currently this.
Chimp Man Z
player, 802 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 07:48
  • msg #387

Re: OOC 3

Sheesh.  I'm out of date, too.
Winter Herald
player, 499 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 07:52
  • msg #388

Re: OOC 3

I will try to slow for you in the future, Runa. I tried to keep my second post short, because I didn't want to leave you behind. Glad CMZ did the same, personally. I was not sure.

Seriously, I still believe Lillibeth's skill set will be absolutely critical to granting us much needed information and insight.
Senor Garcia
player, 226 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 12:38
  • msg #389

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
Radioactive was added? Fascinating, and I can see why they'd add that. To be fair, that lends credence to the idea Winter Herald's data is somewhat out of date. No data on superheroes in warfare beyond the theoretical, the use of LINE as opposed to MCMAP as his primary fighting style, and currently this.


I've been contemplating with updating the NBC skill in my Palladium games here on RPOL to CBRN.

I received training in LINE in boot camp, but not much after that. By the time MCMAP came along I was on embassy duty and was picking up different styles and techniques from the various law enforcement and military personnel we interacted/trained with.
Chimp Man Z
player, 803 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 14:16
  • msg #390

Re: OOC 3

My hand--to-hand training in Basic consisted of one session of pugil sticks, and learning to fix a bayonet to a rifle and stab a dummy made of wood, metal, amd rubber.  Ever see Renaissance Man with Danny Devito, Gregory Hines, and Mark Wahlberg?
Winter Herald
player, 500 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 8 Feb 2023
at 21:11
  • msg #391

Re: OOC 3

Aggression training, primarily, from the sounds of it, although sometimes simply being fearless can make the edge in a fight against an otherwise equal foe. Most of a actual hand to hand basics really boils down to "can you deal with a punch, and do you know how to throw one correctly?" If you can, you're a better fighter than most of the folks in Boonieland.

As for our thread, well... hopefully a near failure is as helpful as a success. Maybe it can narrow down an "isn't" at the least.

Edit: For those not in the know, LINE (Linear Involuntary Neural-override Engagement, a terrible acronym, to be honest) is basically a mixed martial arts program which has a disdain for crowd control techniques such as grabs and holds, encouraging the subject to not use them and to punish an enemy who tries. It is a battlefield combat style, encouraging the user to make the snap decision to engage or disengage, and stick with that plan.

They straight up tell you at the start of knife defense training that the best defense against a knife is a firearm.

It was traded up for MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program) in 2002, as a response to the frequent use of Marines in garrison and defensive roles, when it was becoming a problem for every interaction with a trained Marine to end up with someone getting horribly brutalized. LINE, as a rule, only does "alive" or "not maimed" when it is deciding to withdraw, and sometimes not even then. MCMAP offered more combative options that didn't end with "ICU" or "body bag," although it did leave those on the table.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:39, Thu 09 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1351 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 09:52
  • msg #392

Re: OOC 3

Modified my post...
SSOGM
GM, 914 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 13:13
  • msg #393

Re: OOC 3

A quick explanation (which will become clear eventually). Using a Mystic Portal spell on a submarine can create a portal that would drop a subject one hundred feet per level straight down. A wizard of level five could create a portal that would drop its subject into the ocean at 500 feet below the surface, where the pressure is fifteen atmospheres. For an unprotected human, this is almost certain death.
JUSTICAR
player, 1352 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 13:50
  • msg #394

Re: OOC 3

Yeah. I know... not to mention a bound, gagged and blind-folded COMATOSE body. A shame, really... he cast a 10th level spell only to die!

When in truth, the evidence was thin that he'd even had anything to do with the heist... and EVEN if that was proven...what... 5 to 6 years in prison? If ...IF he didn't turn states evidence and go for plea deal..or even better cut a deal with the government to work for them as a mystical expert!

A powerful wizard like that could have been paid a blushingly large amount to work for the military or government!!!

Not realy sure what his thinking was... unless he was a egotistical and crazy as Dr. Phage!?! 'Shrug'

Even Dr. Phage does not want to die.. I think...
Not sure why Trishula preferred death...when he could likely have just as easily used that same trick to escape when turned over to the authorities?!?

I FULLY expect an opportunist like Provider/Vitaly to sell out and Certainly NOT on the cheapside!!

We almost have NO CASE, cause Provider could literally throw Dr. Phage under the bus and rat him out as the thief with his crazy notions and experiments to do the Heist all on his own!! Cause we cant make the kidnapping charge of Holly Cook ~ Lady Aramageddon stick with her running about a raving Femanazi wielding her powers in her crazy man hating androgyny!

She's more likely to level a courthouse rather than apear at 'The patriarchal symbol of domination, injustice and lies inflicted upon all womankind!', to press charges in a legal arragnment...

We literally have no case here.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:09, Fri 10 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1353 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 17:49
  • msg #395

Re: OOC 3

Nice post Paragon!!! I need to make maybe a couple more posts in the San Senastian isle thread to finalize the changes in-game to Justicar/Hikari... then I will post in the LESP Offices thread and make a proper greeting...
This message was last edited by the player at 17:50, Fri 10 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1354 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 20:46
  • msg #396

Re: OOC 3

Its dnd game night so...I'll be posting in the San Sebastian thread late...
This message was last edited by the player at 20:47, Fri 10 Feb 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 915 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 22:02
  • msg #397

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 394):

Unless the practitioner first cast breathe without air, then swim like a fish, then mystic portal.
In that case they would only need a compatriot to locate them with sonar and remove the bonds before the two head off into the night.
JUSTICAR
player, 1355 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 22:13
  • msg #398

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 397):

So he's a Megavillain... with both psionics and magic... 'shrug'

As there is no spell for 'astral projection' that I can find...
Winter Herald
player, 504 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 22:16
  • msg #399

Re: OOC 3

This sounds like Trishula, and I highly doubt they did all that to die. While they strike me as the type who would prefer death to captivity, I do not believe they were suicidal. Likely somewhere on the ASPD spectrum, but hardly suicidal.

Trishula was reckless and stupid on the subject of interacting with the law, but in a consistent and self-reinforcing pattern of idiocy I can grasp. "Insane" is not a term I would apply to Trishula. If they did all that, they have a plan, because if I have pegged their personality right, escape is the only thing they would bend their thoughts and actions towards until they did it.
SSOGM
GM, 916 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 22:17
  • msg #400

Re: OOC 3

All Mystic Study characters can astral project.
JUSTICAR
player, 1356 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Fri 10 Feb 2023
at 22:46
  • msg #401

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 400):

Oh?!? Never looked at that close enough I guess.. I did not know they got innate powers beyond spells. The ley line walker gets innate abilities .. I should have looked closer.

Well I'm satisfied ... I REALLY do not want to face down a TRUE Megavillain!
This message was last edited by the player at 23:11, Fri 10 Feb 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 505 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 12 Feb 2023
at 07:21
  • msg #402

Re: OOC 3

"The suspense is terrifying! I hope it lasts." - Willy Wonka, sharing a sentiment about my thread at present.

On the plus side, it gives me time to plan ahead for multiple possibles.
Captain Justice
player, 2 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Mon 13 Feb 2023
at 08:53
  • msg #403

Re: OOC 3

There is no need to fear for I have Arrived.

Greetings Everyone.
JUSTICAR
player, 1365 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 13 Feb 2023
at 09:50
  • msg #404

Re: OOC 3

Hello! Welcome to the game! :)
Chimp Man Z
player, 812 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 13 Feb 2023
at 12:53
  • msg #405

Re: OOC 3

Hello there.
Captain Justice
player, 3 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Mon 13 Feb 2023
at 13:05
  • msg #406

Re: OOC 3

How are things going?
JUSTICAR
player, 1367 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Mon 13 Feb 2023
at 13:48
  • msg #407

Re: OOC 3

All good.. ok.. my post at the LESP offices has been updated! :)

Please forgive my spelling errors.. typing from phone on bouncing bus... at work.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:49, Mon 13 Feb 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 512 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 13 Feb 2023
at 20:01
  • msg #408

Re: OOC 3

Another new person. Good to see you.
Senor Garcia
player, 234 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 13 Feb 2023
at 21:48
  • msg #409

Re: OOC 3

I guess it's safe to assume everyone makes if back from the current mission in relatively one piece, and it's ok to post int he LESP office's thread?
Spymaster
player, 2 posts
Secret Agent Man
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 04:21
  • msg #410

Re: OOC 3

A now you have a humble Spymaster. No plot to kill myself at current, but you never know what tangled webs you weave.
Chimp Man Z
player, 815 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 04:35
  • msg #411

Re: OOC 3

Gonna be some introductions when CMZ arrives.....
Winter Herald
player, 514 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 04:36
  • msg #412

Re: OOC 3

Likewise. I have some recording to do.
SSOGM
GM, 928 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 05:13
  • msg #413

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 409):

Yes, relatively intact would be a good way of putting it.

    A few notes about language
  • I'm pretty sure I've got everyone added where they need to be. If any of the languages in the following table don't work for you when you think they should, let me know.
  • Chinese is Mandarin, I doubt that's accurate, but it's how I've got it set up
  • I have radio frequencies set up as languages, and they probably shouldn't be. Technically, I should require a skill roll to send messages through the radio. I'm not going to be that technical.
  • Telepathy is currently set up as a language, and it shouldn't be. I'm planning to use [Secret to player: TELEPATHY - "this is the message"]to send things.
    It would look like:
    [Secret to not Veteran Grunt: TELEPATHY - "this is the message"]


LanguageMessage
Japanese[Language unknown: Ou roossa p Stidertiothu]
Mandarin[Language unknown: U etutai e Olecnale]
Hebrew[Language unknown: U mierpl an Eauwerwer]
Yiddish[Language unknown: K ersmenrom is Witcomect]
Russian[Language unknown: M strortati u Ortantnde]
Spanish[Language unknown: Pr inetfi a Dayconble]
German[Language unknown: Ar illntista at Neisnc]
Hindi[Language unknown: Lo lesreaany a Ckiopa]
Old Chinese[Language unknown: E peulai i Din Motomo]
Arabic[Language unknown: Th ortartcon k Plelai]
Latin[Language unknown: N mopoev be Haspronce]
Cantonese[Language unknown: U ceeral i Earentrutbut]
Nepalese[Language unknown: He resintoun os Waekinck]
French[Language unknown: T ichliname il Fiurwi]
Italian[Language unknown: He ndendevir a Atment]
Esperanto[Language unknown: I weasre ie Artintoveted]
LESPradio[Language unknown: It oulhatain i Anyeraanythi]
LESPradio2[Language unknown: P ionughart an Atitioarehisera]
Portuguese[Language unknown: Si thaenters t Pomeunstan]
Tradespeak[Language unknown: N rolaca e Atmosenoic]

Senor Garcia
player, 236 posts
Retiree
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 07:40
  • msg #414

Re: OOC 3

Spymaster:
A now you have a humble Spymaster. No plot to kill myself at current, but you never know what tangled webs you weave.

You may have crossed paths with Senor Garcia in a previous life...then again maybe not.

It should be interesting with the group now having two former members of the Christians In Action, and a U.S. Marshal on the team.
JUSTICAR
player, 1378 posts
Teen Exo-Pilot MA15/PB14
HP39, SDC76 J:4-700 AR17
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 17:55
  • msg #415

Re: OOC 3

Hikari - Justicar / Justar is now Mutant level 2.
Chimp Man Z
player, 819 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 22:28
  • msg #416

Re: OOC 3

Please tell me that Hikari is not becoming insufferably arrogant.....
JUSTICAR
player, 1381 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 22:54
  • msg #417

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 416):

He's not... but he's a teen... folly is still part and parcel to that age group. He's just pretty amazed at his new found powers and ...yes a little proud about how well he is figuring them out.  Give him a little space to preen...'snicker'

And an IQ of 26 tends to skew how one views the world around you... especially at his age and maturity.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:04, Tue 14 Feb 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 820 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 23:32
  • msg #418

Re: OOC 3

Having the highest IQ does not necessarily make one the smartest person in the room.... LOL
JUSTICAR
player, 1382 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 23:41
  • msg #419

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 418):

No it doesn't... 'snicker', it also does Not make one necessarily the Wisest either!  :)
Senor Garcia
player, 239 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 14 Feb 2023
at 23:59
  • msg #420

Re: OOC 3

Maybe I should kill Justicar on the sub and see what happens when a time paradox occurs in game?
Spymaster
player, 3 posts
Secret Agent Man
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 00:29
  • msg #421

Re: OOC 3

While testing time paradoxes is fun, team killing is not. And as loud and shiny as Justar is, he makes a great distraction so other people can use it for tactical stealth action.

And if Garcia is exCIA, the odds they did a few ops together is relatively high, because why send one super operative, when you can send two? Also if they have, he probably actually knows his real name, because it's important to know who you're working with on a combat mission in case someone doesn't make it back.
JUSTICAR
player, 1383 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 00:47
  • msg #422

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Spymaster (msg # 421):

:) Thanks for the support Spymaster!  Justicar / Justar - Hikari has Alway sbeen flashy and in-your-face with the enemy to do Exactly that!  He as Justicar was the most heavily armored and made himself the obvious target many times to draw fire from his teamates.. he can take it and Dish it back in spades!  But he has rarely EVER unleashed his true damage potential always seeking incapacitating options rather than harmful ones.  Yet, he is as heavily armed as a small army ... and that's just the Justicar suit!  The Justicar-Paladin Mecha Vehicle is a literal flying tank and truly a weapon of WAR... with very little in the realm of 'subdual' weapons and yet the first time he deployed it.. he never fired a single weapon but boxed a 40'ft tall 10 ton Bronto-bear! Paladin-Justicar is meant to fight off an alien invasion if needed!

Hikari is not going to abandon using the Justicar just because he has powers now... they are a backup when technical acumen and measured response fail.  In fact he is actually going to be building more powered suits... Justicar-Polymer, Justicar-Stealth, Justicar-Deep.. and finally Justicar-Black Phoenix 'Space'.  The group is use too having Hikari's technical support as the resident inventor science nerd.  Certainly though with the new members and his mutant powers... Hikari's role will need some redefining...  it will be fun to see how that pans out!
This message was last edited by the player at 00:49, Wed 15 Feb 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 240 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 01:35
  • msg #423

Re: OOC 3

Spymaster:
While testing time paradoxes is fun, team killing is not. And as loud and shiny as Justar is, he makes a great distraction so other people can use it for tactical stealth action.

Killing JUSTICAR in the Sub was a rhetorical/sarcastic comment.

I just hope that in game JUSTICAR's manifestation of mutant abilities doesn't eventually result in him turning into a villain/terrorist. Then Senor Garcia will have to put him down.
JUSTICAR
player, 1384 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 02:36
  • msg #424

Re: OOC 3

That's NEVER happening.  Justicar is a true hero.. his intention is altruistic to use his gifts to serve mankind as a whole.  To fight pollution, save the planet for future generations with access to the benefits of high tech 'Green' energy and industrialization.  To have technology serve mankind as a whole... not just the rich and powerful.  He's solidly Principled {Good} and firmly against those who would use their power, abilities, wealth to oppress, spread fear or death to the innocent ~ he'd rather die than serve evil.  And... he was taking precautions to make sure if he were somehow compromized... there would be people in place to stop him.

He'd planned to give the keys to Paladin-Justicar to Crusader, to be able to stop him should it be necessary.  Paladin-Justicar IS his most powerful suit thus far and totally unhackable cause it has no integrated computer systems to hack... everything is specifically built very WWII in that each system is discrete and does not communicate nor can communicate with the rest of the systems its all manual individual systems.  Now this was his plan before his metahuman powers became evident... so his plan will have to change a bit...
This message was last edited by the player at 02:37, Wed 15 Feb 2023.
Spymaster
player, 5 posts
Secret Agent Man
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 04:02
  • msg #425

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 424):

Actually replying to your post in the other thread, but exclamation points, denote exclaiming, i.e. shouting, the raising of the voice. If you want to show your doing static crackling with your voice, which there's zero indication of in your post, try Justar's voice crackled as he spoke, then the lines in a different color like goldenrod to show it's staticy. You can then carry it forward. The part where you're in energy form you used little exclamation, though reading it I'd say 3 exclamation points is a shout of some sort. But afterword, when you should be talking normal theres! a lot! of these! Suggesting exclamation, a heightening of the energy, a raising of the voice, a shout if you will.
SSOGM
GM, 936 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 07:38
  • msg #426

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
Please tell me that Hikari is not becoming insufferably arrogant.....

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 416):

He's not... but he's a teen...

Therefore he's already insufferably arrogant?
Or is that just my kids...
Taking after their father.
JUSTICAR
player, 1388 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Wed 15 Feb 2023
at 10:46
  • msg #427

Re: OOC 3

Well at least now with all these experinced field operative character types... Hikari can take a back seat and let them plan all the deployments!

Hikari REALLY needs to speak with detective Broyko soon to update him with the recent developments... and set up some... precautions and plans in place.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:34, Wed 15 Feb 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 825 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 04:58
  • msg #428

Re: OOC 3

You know, in reality, police only use the radio for the passing of immediate information only.  Primarily, where they are and why, using 10 codes and crime codes.  Conversations like the one going on between Winter and Garcia would never happen over the radio.  People, including criminals, have police scanners.
Winter Herald
player, 525 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 05:10
  • msg #429

Re: OOC 3

Yes, this is true, but we don't have those codes, do we? So we just talk. If we want those kinds of codes, maybe we should make them.

Also, Winter Herald is speaking on a supposedly encrypted channel. Whether it actually is or not is out of our control.
Senor Garcia
player, 245 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 05:43
  • msg #430

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
You know, in reality, police only use the radio for the passing of immediate information only.  Primarily, where they are and why, using 10 codes and crime codes.  Conversations like the one going on between Winter and Garcia would never happen over the radio.  People, including criminals, have police scanners.

Yes, I am well aware, but like Winter Herald pointed out we are supposedly using an radio encrypted channel.

There are quite a few things missing if we were to emulate a police force in real life:
  • An actual Chain of command, where yes, some characters would have a higher 'rank' then others.
  • Radio codes or some level of communication discipline (because Chimp Man Z is right, our radio discipline sucks).
  • An established use of force continuum when dealing with ordinary people.
  • An established use of force continuum when dealing with meta-humans.
  • The geographical area of LESP jurisdiction needs to be established, because technically once out of our jurisdiction we can often fall under a different set of rules.
  • Most Law Enforcement organizations require its officers to be at least 21 years of age....

Runa
player, 295 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 06:20
  • msg #431

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
Chimp Man Z:
You know, in reality, police only use the radio for the passing of immediate information only.  Primarily, where they are and why, using 10 codes and crime codes.  Conversations like the one going on between Winter and Garcia would never happen over the radio.  People, including criminals, have police scanners.

Yes, I am well aware, but like Winter Herald pointed out we are supposedly using an radio encrypted channel.

There are quite a few things missing if we were to emulate a police force in real life:
  • An actual Chain of command, where yes, some characters would have a higher 'rank' then others.
  • Radio codes or some level of communication discipline (because Chimp Man Z is right, our radio discipline sucks).
  • An established use of force continuum when dealing with ordinary people.
  • An established use of force continuum when dealing with meta-humans.
  • The geographical area of LESP jurisdiction needs to be established, because technically once out of our jurisdiction we can often fall under a different set of rules.
  • Most Law Enforcement organizations require its officers to be at least 21 years of age....

Please no. I play these games to escape reality, not emulate it.
Senor Garcia
player, 246 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 06:58
  • msg #432

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Senor Garcia:
Chimp Man Z:
You know, in reality, police only use the radio for the passing of immediate information only.  Primarily, where they are and why, using 10 codes and crime codes.  Conversations like the one going on between Winter and Garcia would never happen over the radio.  People, including criminals, have police scanners.

Yes, I am well aware, but like Winter Herald pointed out we are supposedly using an radio encrypted channel.

There are quite a few things missing if we were to emulate a police force in real life:
  • An actual Chain of command, where yes, some characters would have a higher 'rank' then others.
  • Radio codes or some level of communication discipline (because Chimp Man Z is right, our radio discipline sucks).
  • An established use of force continuum when dealing with ordinary people.
  • An established use of force continuum when dealing with meta-humans.
  • The geographical area of LESP jurisdiction needs to be established, because technically once out of our jurisdiction we can often fall under a different set of rules.
  • Most Law Enforcement organizations require its officers to be at least 21 years of age....

Please no. I play these games to escape reality, not emulate it.


I agree this is a Super Hero game and thus removed from reality. So we shouldn’t be making a big deal out of radio discipline, escalation of force or when a character decides to use deadly force.

About the only I think we need in game is a chain of command or at the very least an established field team leader so we don’t spend a month of in character posting arguing about how to conduct an operation.
Paragon
player, 20 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 11:36
  • msg #433

Re: OOC 3

This will be explained IC, but I figure it mught help. Paragon is officially here, unlike the spooks, and provides jurisdictional cover. She is very high in rank, but in the fed system, not local, meaning it would be by choice if the rest differ to her for leadership. Anyhow, carry on.
JUSTICAR
player, 1393 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 12:44
  • msg #434

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Paragon (msg # 433):

Usually, it has never been an issue... we recieve a mission, we analyze what we know and what we can find out... then we come up with a skeleton of a plan and we ALL contribute, make suggestions and alterations when someone brings up a point or detail we did not consider and we eventually settle on a plan. It's all RP and cooperative ~ with the understanding we all have a role to play and we come to consensus.  Not perfect always but we recognize we are Not a military though we have never needed a 'leader'... we each do our part to a mutual goal of catchimg the bad guys and upholding the law.

That is not to say I'm opposed to a recognized 'leader' Hikari always differed to Chimpman Z and Bellissima as they were older than him AND... more importantly, were level headed and dedicated to justice and due porcess. He trusted their judgement and contributed his ideas to the plan.

The REAL issue here is not use of deadly force because we use that all the time in measured response to foes but the intentional intent to kill an npc who posses no apparent threat or intent to inflict bodily harm on any team member without ANY consultation with the team before such a unilateral irreversible action is taken.

It's unsupportable as justified to say, "yeah, I'm in Class 4 hard armor [+180SDC] but I thought he was gonna draw a knife [1d4 dam] on me... so I shot him in the head without warning. No I saw no knife in his hand and he made no threat to stab me, but he did have a knife ~ see!"
This message was last edited by the player at 15:06, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
Paragon
player, 21 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 15:05
  • msg #435

Re: OOC 3

I honestly don't care either way.
Senor Garcia
player, 247 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 15:07
  • msg #436

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
The REAL issue here is not use of deadly force because we use that all the time in measured response to foes but the intentional intent to kill an npc who posses no apparent threat or intent to inflict bodily harm on any team member without ANY consultation with the team before such unilateral irreversible action is taken.

Its unsupportable as justified to say, "yeah, I'm in Class 4 hard armor [+180SDC] but I thought he was gonna draw a knife [1d4 dam] on me...so I shot him in the head without warning. No I saw no knife in his hand, but he did have one see!"


Discussing a course of action with the rest of the player group is kinda hard to do while in the middle of an action sequence where you have several bad guys to deal with. Sometimes there isn’t time for discussion. Characters decide to debate and it just gives more time for the bag guys to formulate their own counter plan.

Anyhow I had a in character reason for shooting the ninja. The fact that he had an acid knife only solidified my reasoning.
Runa
player, 297 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 15:16
  • msg #437

Re: OOC 3

In my time GMing on RPOL, I've seen issues like the ones we are having here with regards to PCs and courses of action. Eventually in order to keep the story moving and stop losing players due to what amounts to rage quitting, I gave my players an option.

Option 1, you players figure out who has final say on any proposed plan. Call them the "field leader" if you have to. Decider would be more accurate since all they really do is pick which plan to go with.

Option 2, I pick. That pick could be a PC or an NPC.

After that, arguments went way down. PCs proposed plans, the leader picked one and that was that. Sure it's not perfect but it helped to get things moving again. Everyone was just tired of the endless bickering. One PC proposes a plan. Another plays the "well what if this happens huh?! We should do my plan instead" Game and repeat for weeks of real time. Giving a PC or NPC to call the shot reduced the arguing by eliminating the "what if this..." part of the bickering.
Winter Herald
player, 526 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 15:26
  • msg #438

Re: OOC 3

I would encourage everyone present to recall the fable of "The Frogs Who Desired A King." If you really want a leader, you might get it.
Runa
player, 298 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 15:38
  • msg #439

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
I would encourage everyone present to recall the fable of "The Frogs Who Desired A King." If you really want a leader, you might get it.

Never heard that one
Runa
player, 299 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 15:43
  • msg #440

Re: OOC 3

OK read the cliff notes and how it's meaning has evolved over the centuries.

Really don't think it applies here. Not worried about a player eating everyone.

There is also the fact that if a solution doesn't work, we are free to try another.
Paragon
player, 22 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 15:59
  • msg #441

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 437):

I agree with Runa.
JUSTICAR
player, 1394 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 16:05
  • msg #442

Re: OOC 3

No plan survives implementation, and we have always been flexible in adapting 'a plan' when the circumstsnces of the changing situation have been needed.

Like I said, I'm not opposed to a 'field leader' being appointed... and Paragon does make a good case that since we have been doing waaay more operations outside the Center City Jurisdiction... an appointmemt of a US Marshal...  ranked to opperate anywhere in the US as field leader would be good optics and be in theme.  'Shrug'.  She'd get Hikari's vote for what its worth.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:10, Thu 16 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1395 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 16:09
  • msg #443

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 437):

And yes Runa...I'd be down with that option...either as well!
Winter Herald
player, 527 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 16:23
  • msg #444

Re: OOC 3

There's worse things an autocrat can do than have you eaten, especially if they are an NPC who is unbound by our character creation restrictions. And not all actions are so easily reversed.

But if structure is required or demanded, I could modify a old time Articles of Agreement generally employed by pirate operations. Those were privately run organizations that required a bunch of morally atavistic individuals an understanding of the kind of conduct they could expect in this particular voyage, or in our case, mission. With little modification, I suspect I could draw one up for our unit, capable of modification from mission to mission, and with the expectation that anyone who did not like it could just leave at the next junction.

Technically, we are all bound together by police regulations and protocols, buuuuuut we are also clearly deregulated to a large degree and allowed to structure ourselves as the situation demands it. So, a flexible code of field expectations might be in order.

For example, a battlemaster is an excellent idea, someone who has uncontested word in combat, and out of battle, is no different from anyone else other than perhaps the necessary popularity to maintain their position. After all, a simple majority vote could kick them from their positions in most charters. This was not out of altruism. It was intended to stop a coup from becoming something violent (or half the crew stealing all the boats and supplies mid-voyage) that would likely condemn the crew to a slow death.

I can draw up such a contract, with clear expectations and self-enforced regulations, if one wishes to see it. I will make the case this is absolutely essential if we are actually expected to resolve all issues "in-character".
Chimp Man Z
player, 826 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 17:49
  • msg #445

Re: OOC 3

It is the use of real world procedures that helps with the suspension of disbelief.  But, that is a different conversation.
I know a number of PCs look to Jacob as a leader sometimes.  But, he is not really comfortable with that.
JUSTICAR
player, 1396 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 18:32
  • msg #446

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 445):

Hikari does, but he also know's Jacob is very uncomfortable with that... so he tries really hard not to put that on his friend. Though Hikari has always complied with anything Jacob has suggested.
Chimp Man Z
player, 827 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 19:34
  • msg #447

Re: OOC 3

He can and does if he feels the need, but he generally tries to guide others away from stupid stuff.
Senor Garcia
player, 248 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 20:26
  • msg #448

Re: OOC 3

Both Runa and Winter Herald’s players have good solutions.

As a GM I often have used Runa’s option 2: pick a PC and ask the player if they want to be the HMFIC. But I do make it known that I expect more from that player.

Winter Herald’s idea has merit because we may find ourselves split up into smaller teams, and thus may have to decide upon a “Battlemaster” for the short term.

In the grand scheme of things we all know it’s THE PLAYER who determines if their character is a good leader. We also need to keep in mind some plates do not want to be in charge and that has to be respected.
Chimp Man Z
player, 829 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 16 Feb 2023
at 21:25
  • msg #449

Re: OOC 3

I don't know if I mentioned something like this before, but, perhaps, the newer officers need an FTO.  A Field Training Officer to show them the ropes and teach them, and evaluate them as they learn.
Paragon
player, 24 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 12:34
  • msg #450

Re: OOC 3

Just so we are on the same page-
Alison wasn't being deliberately rude. She is a little clueless. She just assumed Harold was like Data from Star Trek, which he probably gets a lot off camera.
Winter Herald
player, 530 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 12:50
  • msg #451

Re: OOC 3

He wasn't sure if it was a test or not, and Paragon has hardly the rudest towards him so far. Broyko just interrupted Winter Herald's Sass Protocols before I initiated them. So don't sweat it.

Paragon's a long ways off from truly antagonizing Winter Herald, and given that being considered soulless wasn't enough to do it for him, the bar is fairly high. But he's so deadpan that he can be a bit hard to read - this is on purpose. He's a machine, with machine humor. That's what the coffee comment was intended to be... even if he isn't, in fact, programmed to make coffee.

That would require an artificial memory expansion and a domestic program package, because he's not inclined to learn it naturally. That's time he could be spending learning how to do his job better, or doing his job.
Senor Garcia
player, 249 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 16:01
  • msg #452

Re: OOC 3

Not gonna lie, Winter’s IC assessment of the team is pretty spot on.
Runa
player, 302 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 16:45
  • msg #453

Re: OOC 3

Does the LESP office have a gym? If so, that is where Lilibeth will be during the current in game time.
Winter Herald
player, 531 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 16:48
  • msg #454

Re: OOC 3

The building itself does indeed have a gym. It's described in link to a message in this game at message number two.
Runa
player, 303 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 17:05
  • msg #455

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
The building itself does indeed have a gym. It's described in link to a message in this game at message number two.

Perfect! Thanks WH.

I have to run some errands but when I get back, I will make a post about Lilibeth working out there. Those going on a tour of the facility can casually run into her there. I much prefer that over me posting her barging into the Detective's office like an awkward person with serious case of FOMO

(Fear Of Missing Out)
JUSTICAR
player, 1402 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Fri 17 Feb 2023
at 17:14
  • msg #456

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 455):

That link is correct the second post scroll all the way to the top room 12 is the LESP Gym.
Winter Herald
player, 533 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 07:49
  • msg #457

Re: OOC 3

I may end up further slicing my post down, depending. For some reason, I thought Broyko was no longer present.
SSOGM
GM, 944 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 16:07
  • msg #458

Re: OOC 3

First, I edited Broyko's post to make it work better with Winter Herald's, and for other reasons.
Second, I want to remind everyone that collecting certain experience points is in the player's hands. Please remember to award yourself five experience points for each in character post. Please award yourself twenty-five experience points for each skill used, maximum of two skills per post. I won't be tracking those points (too much accounting).
JUSTICAR
player, 1403 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 16:12
  • msg #459

Re: OOC 3

Yeah. Hikari with all the recent awareded xp and post xp is getting very close to mutant level 3
SSOGM
GM, 945 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 18 Feb 2023
at 16:24
  • msg #460

Re: OOC 3

Hikari wouldn't gain experience as a mutant till after The Refuseniks bits.
Runa
player, 306 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 04:31
  • msg #461

Re: OOC 3

Sorry Garcia, when I went to post just now my finger hit your name and send my post to you as a PM. Just ignore and delete it. I've posted it in the office thread where it should be.
Winter Herald
player, 534 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 04:37
  • msg #462

Re: OOC 3

Don't forget the other man with us, either Spymaster, who might just naturally have a low profile, or Captain Justice, who probably has to enter the door carefully, both to protect his head and the door frame.
Spymaster
player, 10 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 04:50
  • msg #463

Re: OOC 3

I'd presume it's me, I don't think anyone would miss Captain Justice. He's prime Ahnuld times 4.
Runa
player, 307 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 04:54
  • msg #464

Re: OOC 3

Opps, yah sorry missed there were three people she doesn't know there. I wasn't sure from the posts of who actually went to the gym
Senor Garcia
player, 250 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 05:38
  • msg #465

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Sorry Garcia, when I went to post just now my finger hit your name and send my post to you as a PM. Just ignore and delete it. I've posted it in the office thread where it should be.

No worries I’ve done the same thing before.
Paragon
player, 27 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sun 19 Feb 2023
at 15:51
  • msg #466

Re: OOC 3

I've edited my last post.
Winter Herald
player, 537 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 00:19
  • msg #467

Re: OOC 3

I am aware, out of character, that Winter Herald is not correct in his views of the police. The police have absolutely no obligation to help you if you are in trouble. They could literally watch a man go to town on other people with a knife or a firearm, and not get involved.

Winter Herald has his own ideas of what the police should be, rather than what they are. Of course, most police might legitimately shoot back to him that they are not living bulletproof cars capable of running at sonic speeds while swordfighting like Zorro, and that maybe he should keep that in mind.
SSOGM
GM, 947 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 02:55
  • msg #468

Re: OOC 3

Because Winter Herald would know the distinction, I will point out that
Winter Herald:
The police have absolutely no obligation to help you if you are in trouble.
is specific to the actual type of trouble an individual is in. If an individual is the victim of a crime, the police have an absolute obligation to help that victim as far as that crime is concerned.
Chimp Man Z
player, 832 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 03:31
  • msg #469

Re: OOC 3

Actually,the problem is that, in reality, police are under no obligation to stop a crime, or to prevent a crime from occurring.  That was determined by the US Supreme Court back in 2012.
Runa
player, 310 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 03:35
  • msg #470

Re: OOC 3

"Prevent Loss of Life, Injuries, and Property Damage"
Taken directly from NV State Police policy and mission statement.

I can't speak for Police all across the US but I know for a fact that NV State Police are expected and required to intercede to protect life and limb of people in the state.
JUSTICAR
player, 1407 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 04:16
  • msg #471

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 469):

Not trying to be judgmental but that 'supreme court ruling' seems totally moronic and a dereliction of duty.
Runa
player, 311 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 04:47
  • msg #472

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 469):

Not trying to be judgmental but that 'supreme court ruling' seems totally moronic and a dereliction of duty.

It was an acknowledgement that no one, including Police, are psychic. Real life isn't Minority Report. That said, there are previous rulings by SCOTUS, like Terry Frisk and Terry Stop, where if a Police officer, in their experience and training, witness events that cause them to believe a crime is about to take place, they may intercede in a limited fashion.

The case law example can be read here
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/392/1/

TLDR, a off duty detective noticed two guys acting real sketchy, as in about to rob a place. He announced what he was and detained them. Turns out they had guns and were about to rob the place. Suspects lawyers cried it was a violation of the 4th Amendment, SCOTUS denied it, saying the officer had reasonable suspicion to believe a felony was about to take place and acted in a reasonable fashion to save life and property.

In today's anti police climate though...yah...doing things like that is ...let's say officers think twice before risking their career.
Winter Herald
player, 538 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 05:00
  • msg #473

Re: OOC 3

There's a few reasons for that, which I will not elaborate on here in the OOC. The point was that police do not have an obligation to protect you. They may choose to do so, but they have no obligation to do so.

What I was also getting at was that Winter Herald might be misleading the new guy a bit, even if the reasoning is idealistic. Sorry, Justice. "We trained Captain Justice wrong, as a joke."
SSOGM
GM, 948 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 20 Feb 2023
at 06:22
  • msg #474

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 469) and Runa (msg # 472):
Oh. That.
You're missing one very important word. The Supreme Court said police are under no constitutional obligation to prevent a crime or help a citizen. However, in 1988 a DOJ publication stated
article Crime and Policing from the June 1988 DOJ Perspectives on Policing publication:
The core mission of the police is to control crime. No one disputes this.

So, the Supreme Court didn't tell people the police don't have to protect them from crime. The Supreme Court said that wasn't a question they had to answer.
To discover what the policies are in any location, one has only to examine the police department's mission statement (almost all of them have one).
In fact:
Center City Police Department Mission Statement:
The mission of the Center City Police Department is to protect and serve by partnering with the community to solve problems and responsibly enforce the law.

Senor Garcia
player, 252 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 15:51
  • msg #475

Re: OOC 3

Was Lt B’s memo meant for one specific team or for everyone?

[Private to GM:

Senor Garcia has the bodyguard/assassin program and has carried out both the task of being a bodyguard and tasked to assassinate individuals

So he’d be a good fit. Plus he wouldn’t run around in spandex making himself a target for the bad guys.
]
Chimp Man Z
player, 834 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 17:43
  • msg #476

Re: OOC 3

Hello folks.  You may want to go check out the new description.....
Senor Garcia
player, 253 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 18:35
  • msg #477

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
Hello folks.  You may want to go check out the new description.....

So now the girls will no longer run from Chimp Man Z and now run towards him….
JUSTICAR
player, 1410 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 18:43
  • msg #478

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 476):

Hehe! Nice... semi-man!!!
Runa
player, 314 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 18:43
  • msg #479

Re: OOC 3

So this is what I got out of that lengthy post;
Blah blah words I'm a mutant, wordy words, nanites, force fields, dimensional teleport, really real AI so I can make Charlie's Hikari's Angels,  more words, can I please shoot people that might be assassins. ^_^
Senor Garcia
player, 255 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 18:47
  • msg #480

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
So this is what I got out of that lengthy post;
Blah blah words I'm a mutant, wordy words, nanites, force fields, dimensional teleport, really real AI so I can make Charlie's Hikari's Angels,  more words, can I please shoot people that might be assassins. ^_^

That what I got.

Maybe JUSTICAR’s player should just have his own solo game?
Runa
player, 315 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 19:01
  • msg #481

Re: OOC 3

And just because text is such an imperfect medium, my response above is in no way a genuine slight against Hikari's player.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:10, Tue 21 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1411 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 19:05
  • msg #482

Re: OOC 3

Trust me.. im hoping to power word: abreviate some of it if I can when I get home! Posting at work I'm kinda rushed.

I had suggested to SSOGM that a specific RP thread be done to do this outside of the game posts... but he rejected that idea.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:06, Tue 21 Feb 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 835 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 19:31
  • msg #483

Re: OOC 3

Hey, Hikari....
"Yackety-smackety, Blah, Blah, Blah, and a tall, cold glass of OJ."
Winter Herald
player, 541 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 19:47
  • msg #484

Re: OOC 3

Write a book, already, and just get it out of your system. A cursory glance tells me this has little to do with the rest of us, and in the current form it is in, pre-editing?

"Abusive" fails to describe this post as it is right now. "Limit testing" would be more accurate, like you are seeing what you can get away with before players start asking the GM with sincerity to kill your character and ban you. If you dropped something like this in a game I ran, I would be razor close to doing just that to you.

So, we'll see how much of this still applies when the day closes. But this is where it is right now, at least to me. I thank Runa for being willing to read this.

That said, I'm going to read it myself, despite knowing without looking deeply that 90-99% has nothing to do with anyone except Hikari. I might actually glean something extra from it, although I am not optimistic. Likely, it is simple masochism on my part.

EDIT: I am done reading. I have a translation for anyone who wants it. It's still long, but not blackout long.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:20, Tue 21 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1412 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 20:31
  • msg #485

Re: OOC 3

'Shrug' All that i mentioned in that text I had suggested, as I said, to be in a separate RP thread and the gm rejected the idea.  All of it was known to SSOGM and has been discussed with him from almost the begining of the character and has been in the works for almost 6 months now.

The question was always how much was Hikari going to reveal to Detective Broyko.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:31, Tue 21 Feb 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1413 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Tue 21 Feb 2023
at 23:45
  • msg #486

Re: OOC 3

ok. Formated and cut a bit.. but its still long.. not that anyone really cares but there it is.  Don't want to read it, that's fine scroll on past.  As I said it more an interaction with SSOGM.
Spymaster
player, 14 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 01:23
  • msg #487

Re: OOC 3

My take on it I would have put the relevant to thread stuff in the offices thread, and ended the post with arranging a meeting with the Detective privately after everyone was briefed on the situation. Then post the entire rest of that wall of text over in the Open RP thread, so it's not breaking the flow for everyone else.

Imagine you were CMZ sitting in that office, before he gets to ask a single mission critical question, you infodump everything to the detective. If you were actually talking, you'd be at that for a solid 20 minutes to an hour, while he's waiting to ask questions that might actually make it so you needn't worry about lethal force. And I'm hoping you guys would have gone in last, because otherwise you're delaying the other teams getting their assignments, on what's probably going to be a very time sensitive mission, since we have a definite deadline and a lot of variables to consider.
Chimp Man Z
player, 836 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 01:30
  • msg #488

Re: OOC 3

Actually, I believe that the Senator and the fundraiser happen at the same time as a convention nearby.
JUSTICAR
player, 1414 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 01:30
  • msg #489

Re: OOC 3

It was my understanding it was the last meeting.. I asked multiple times for a private meeting and stayed away.. until SSOGM directly addressed/dragged Hikari into the scene to come meet with Broyko.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:32, Wed 22 Feb 2023.
Spymaster
player, 15 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 02:04
  • msg #490

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 488):

I saw no mention of it in the current thread, but on going back through the other thread I found it, and they're apparently in the same convention center. Which is a real security oversight on the part of the secret service, allowing a fundraiser full of high profile political types where a bunch of nerds are dressed as comic and anime characters carrying fake weapons, which is probably going to be a thing I'd yell at them for.
Chimp Man Z
player, 837 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 03:12
  • msg #491

Re: OOC 3

Maybe the senator's son is into cosplay....
Okay, something I want to mention to the new people.  How you guys react is entirely up to you.
Chimp Man Zee was a nationally famous aerialist with the third most popular travelling circus in the country.  This was because of his mutant appearance (JoJo, the Dog Faced Boy of PT Barnum fame is a distant relative).  It became news when he left the circus to go to college in Center City to become a physical therapist, and it became news when he rescued a bunch of people from a chemical plant fire (especially when there was an explosion that blew him through the side of a news van, and he was filmed naked because all of his clothing had been burned up).
Then he went through the firefighter academy, earned a degree in criminal justice and was recruited to the police department for LESP.  And, he has had some say in everyone else who has been recruited (whether good, or bad).
But, the point is that everyone has herd of him, maybe seen him perform or in action.  What anyone thinks of him, well, let's just say he's a mutant Jew of Ukrainian heritage, through Isreal.  There are plenty of people with reason to hate him.  Anyone who has seen him is going to be used to the Hairy Monkey Guy.  So, his new appearance is going to be a bit of a surprise.  How each person handles that is up to the player.  I just wanted to put the gist of his situation out there.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:51, Wed 22 Feb 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 949 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 03:25
  • msg #492

Re: OOC 3

Something I should throw out, here. The 'partner pairs' each had a meeting with Broyko, separately. What you can read is what happened in your meeting, you can't see what Broyko said to the others.[Secret to Captain Justice; JUSTICAR;  Runa;  Spymaster: Here's what things look like, and the code will follow.][Secret to Chimp Man Z; Paragon; Senor Garcia; Winter Herald: The code will follow this example.]
[Secret to Captain Justice; JUSTICAR;  Runa;  Spymaster: Here's what things look like, and the code will follow.][Secret to Chimp Man Z; Paragon; Senor Garcia; Winter Herald: The code will follow this example.]
JUSTICAR
player, 1416 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 12:43
  • msg #493

Re: OOC 3

Uhm. I don't see anything in the code or message there IS no message.
Runa
player, 317 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 20:34
  • msg #494

Re: OOC 3

Are we meeting with the detective as pairs or all together? I thought it was as pairs?
SSOGM
GM, 951 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 21:21
  • msg #495

Re: OOC 3

It was as pairs.
Chimp Man Z
player, 839 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 21:58
  • msg #496

Re: OOC 3

It seems we all jumped in together now.
JUSTICAR
player, 1418 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 22:02
  • msg #497

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 496):

I think we are still in pairs...
Chimp Man Z
player, 840 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 22 Feb 2023
at 23:46
  • msg #498

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM posted that.
Runa
player, 318 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 00:01
  • msg #499

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
It seems we all jumped in together now.

Which is why I asked. ^_^
SSOGM
GM, 952 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 02:29
  • msg #500

Re: OOC 3

It is pairs. I didn't create separate threads because I hate accounting.
Chimp Man Z
player, 841 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 02:39
  • msg #501

Re: OOC 3

Maybe a separation of conversations.  Such as:

Names of Pair
Posted conversation

Names of Next Pair
Posted conversation
Runa
player, 319 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 03:30
  • msg #502

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
Maybe a separation of conversations.  Such as:

Names of Pair
Posted conversation

Names of Next Pair
Posted conversation

That's how I do it in my games. Cuts down on the number of threads yet keeps things separated for everyone.
SSOGM
GM, 953 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 04:46
  • msg #503

Re: OOC 3

Yes, but if you use secret messages the separate conversations work fine, except the players responses become don't maintain that separation. For instance:
[Secret to Captain Justice: You are Captain Justice]
[Secret to Chimp Man Z: You are Chimp Man Z]
[Secret to JUSTICAR: You are JUSTICAR]
[Secret to Paragon: You are Paragon]
[Secret to Runa: You are Runa]
[Secret to Senor Garcia: You are Señor Garcia]
[Secret to Spymaster: You are Spymaster]
[Secret to Winter Herald: You are Winter Herald]
Is actually:
[Secret to Captain Justice: You are Captain Justice]
[Secret to Chimp Man Z: You are Chimp Man Z]
[Secret to JUSTICAR: You are JUSTICAR]
[Secret to Paragon: You are Paragon]
[Secret to Runa: You are Runa]
[Secret to Senor Garcia: You are Se&ntilde;or Garcia]
[Secret to Spymaster: You are Spymaster]
[Secret to Winter Herald: You are Winter Herald]

The important distinction is that when threads are archived, all the private and secret messages become visible.
Winter Herald
player, 543 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 04:51
  • msg #504

Re: OOC 3

Ah, some understanding. It should be enough for me.

EDIT: This research bit is going to be hilarious for Winter Herald. He is capable of research... just in a rather specific form. If one asked Winter Herald to engage in political opposition research, he'd likely come back with psychological and medical records of his targets, a history of their actions in various organization, and all of the weak points and vulnerabilities of their security, schedules, and housing. He has Intelligence, which is a more specific form of Research - the objective is to discover strengths and weaknesses through the lens of military and espionage.

So everything he learns is going to be through that lens.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:29, Thu 23 Feb 2023.
Paragon
player, 34 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 15:10
  • msg #505

Re: OOC 3

I am really confused. Are we all in Broyko's office? Are we getting prvt mssg?
JUSTICAR
player, 1421 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 15:16
  • msg #506

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Paragon (msg # 505):

I believe You an Senor Garcia are having a conversation in the office area, Runa, Spymaster, Winter Herald, and Captain Justice are having a conversation in the gym, and CMZ and I are in Det. Broyko's office in a private conversation with him.

I expect all other communications from the GM are text messages or somesuch from LESP or just office skuttlebutt being passed around in ear-shot. 'Shrug'

Everyone else had a chance to ask questions and for details when they were all in meeting with Det. Broyko.

But HE specifically called Justicar and CMZ into his office for a private meeting.  If people are asking questions of the detective now its likely through text messages.

At least that seems likely... 'shrug'
This message was last edited by the player at 15:19, Thu 23 Feb 2023.
Runa
player, 321 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 15:21
  • msg #507

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
I am really confused. Are we all in Broyko's office? Are we getting prvt mssg?

I had the same confusion and question!

What I was told by the GM, somewhere here on this thread, is that only pairs (the pairs listed somewhere) are actually in Broyko's office at any one time. We are just RPing those 2 on 1 conversations in this same thread, at the same time, for ease of the GM (so they don't have to create a half dozen new threads just for those conversations) and the players as well.

Once I was told that, I've been pretty much ignoring anything not posted by the GM or Finley, since he is Lilibeth/Runa's partner. Reading what others are writing here would kinda be like OOC info so I've only skimmed it just in case it was something important.
SSOGM
GM, 955 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 19:45
  • msg #508

Re: OOC 3

Runa's take on it is accurate.
SSOGM
GM, 956 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 19:48
  • msg #509

Re: OOC 3

I was bumping threads to rearrange their order, sorry for the confusion on new posts.
Runa
player, 322 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 20:26
  • msg #510

Re: OOC 3

quote Spymaster>
<DarkGreen>"Person with powers

He didn't bother addressing the POST comment, he felt passing the exam would be easy enough, it was more making sure he had a clean cover to do it with. He was actually more worried if other members even qualified, either due to their young age or their inhuman status.
</quote>
Thanks for letting me know but now I have another question; what do you mean by POST? I know what it means to me but it could mean something completely different to you.
Runa
player, 323 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 20:26
  • msg #511

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Runa's take on it is accurate.

Yes! I had it right! I was worried there for a bit I was hopelessly lost and confused.
Paragon
player, 35 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 20:48
  • msg #512

Re: OOC 3

Police Officer Selection Test
Spymaster
player, 17 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 21:54
  • msg #513

Re: OOC 3

What Paragon said, if every member is being POST certified, that means Paragon already is as a Marshall, Runa and CMZ should have no real hurdles, Garcia and Spymaster have to contend with their past possibly coming back in a background check,though the Agency has likely scrubbed any evidence tying them to any of their field work, sometimes things slip. Winter Herald, Justicar, and Captain Justice have to deal with age, citizenry, and how the Center City/state governments feel about androids, as pretty much any department in the nation requires full U.S. Citizenship, and being 21 or older.
SSOGM
GM, 957 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 21:58
  • msg #514

Re: OOC 3

Peace Officer's Standards and Training
It's a worldwide thing, but not necessarily the same worldwide.
In most jurisdictions within the United States, POST certification is required to 'make arrests'. It's invariably the first question an officer in court is asked, and the officer's credibility is based on his/her answer.
Runa
player, 324 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 22:09
  • msg #515

Re: OOC 3

OK just making sure, we had the same meaning.
Winter Herald
player, 545 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 22:43
  • msg #516

Re: OOC 3

Captain Justice is likely in the clear and a third year college student. If he isn't old enough, he will be shortly. Justicar might be able to just throw a wad of money at the problem and make it stop being a problem, outright buying waivers or something "close enough." Winter Herald is technically operating under a false identity and none of his public information is real at the moment - something he is working on correcting.

On the plus side, his presence as an android is at least known in the department and becoming accepted. To him, this simplifies things and is a start.

Garcia and Spymaster should have few problems, to be honest. Their pasts would likely be seen as assets, and the worst of the declassified stuff would have waivers and exceptions.

CMZ and Runa should be fine, although Runa/Lillibeth might have to take it twice depending on her documentation.
Runa
player, 325 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 23:01
  • msg #517

Re: OOC 3

So our characters will now have to be POST certified?
JUSTICAR
player, 1422 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 J:700 AR17
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 23:14
  • msg #518

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 517):

It's honestly not an 'unreasonable' requirement for a law enforcenent special division! 'Shrug'
Chimp Man Z
player, 844 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 23 Feb 2023
at 23:31
  • msg #519

Re: OOC 3

Jacob/CMZ would already be POST certified.
Paragon
player, 36 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Fri 24 Feb 2023
at 04:04
  • msg #520

Re: OOC 3

Im waiting on Garcia to post.
Winter Herald
player, 547 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 24 Feb 2023
at 07:35
  • msg #521

Re: OOC 3

Wait - by virtue of the Play By Post format, are we all technically not POST certified? Or are our actions on RPOL a crime? No one told me I needed paperwork to be here, man.
Runa
player, 326 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 24 Feb 2023
at 14:10
  • msg #522

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
Wait - by virtue of the Play By Post format, are we all technically not POST certified? Or are our actions on RPOL a crime? No one told me I needed paperwork to be here, man.

OK that's funny
Winter Herald
player, 549 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 25 Feb 2023
at 08:47
  • msg #523

Re: OOC 3

Thank you, thank you. Also, asking the questions of recon.

Again, most people want Sherlock Holmes, and Winter Herald is (if I'm asking the right questions) giving out Solid Snake vibes.
Senor Garcia
player, 258 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sat 25 Feb 2023
at 15:43
  • msg #524

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
Im waiting on Garcia to post.

Sorry been busy the past few days (family, work etc etc)...let me read up on posts and get caught up.

Senor Garcia's last few years with the CIA had him operating with a cover that had him operating as a DSS agent so that cover name, which is what he is using as a retiree would be listed as POST certified.
Paragon
player, 38 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sat 25 Feb 2023
at 16:44
  • msg #525

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 523):

Sorry no cardboard boxs here.
Senor Garcia
player, 260 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sat 25 Feb 2023
at 16:56
  • msg #526

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 523):

Sorry no cardboard boxs here.

Solid Snake retired in what 2014?

Sam Fisher on the other hand was operating in Bolivia in 2019 and then on the Auroa archipelago in 2025....

https://youtu.be/Vlnh0KLVJJ0

I've enjoyed both Metal Gear and Splinter Cell games.
Winter Herald
player, 550 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 25 Feb 2023
at 22:00
  • msg #527

Re: OOC 3

Solid Snake became Old Snake as a result of magic nanomachines magic nanomachines and was lucky he could complete his missions at all.

Bellissima would have to steer clear of Winter Herald. Well, the machine might wave to her and acknowledge her presence, but would otherwise not even notice her SEP Field being active in the first place and would likely just focus on his task confident she's doing the same. Which might cause her to think the SEP Field now worked on machines.

He'd have been much less civil to Provider if he knew the guy was trying to turn invisible and slip away.
JUSTAR
player, 1 post
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP50, SDC77 EB:117 AR10
Wed 1 Mar 2023
at 07:08
  • msg #528

Re: OOC 3

Justar is now mutant level 3
Senor Garcia
player, 266 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 1 Mar 2023
at 07:36
  • msg #529

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
Justar is now mutant level 3


I really do not give two shits (or flying fucks) if I get booted from the game for the below....
  • Your character JUSTICAR is not the main character of this game. So stop acting like it.
  • Do you think the rest of us players care what level you are?
  • No one character in this game is the main character.
  • If this game was a comic book it would be The Advengers, X-Men, or Justice League.
  • This is a team based game, and it isn't Superman, Batman, Ironman, or Wolverine.

Winter Herald
player, 560 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 13:25
  • msg #530

Re: OOC 3

Well, on my end - armor up Captain Justice, not to be confused with Justicar, probably in something light. It's going to mess with Winter Herald that the big guy is extremely agile. Captain Justice is a living cheat code who tells the square cube law to go crawl into a corner and cry itself to sleep, as far as I can tell.

On our end, we're hoping to acquire information about "the distraction" aka the AFF. Even if that is all they are, as long as they are not vetted, reasonable doubt can be used by the actual culprit. And their testimony could be quite useful in finding the real bad guys... if it isn't actually them.
JUSTICAR
player, 1438 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 14:17
  • msg #531

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 530):

I can indeed armor Captain Justice up with something useful... I'll work on a set of armor for his approval. Of course the armor can be stylized as he see's fit.

Would Captain Justice like any navigation electronics {he mentioned he can fly}, optical enhancements, gask mask, independant air supplies or added weaponry {melee, subdual, energy or all of the above} options for his armor?

With his high PS... many things are possible.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:19, Thu 02 Mar 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 862 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 14:38
  • msg #532

Re: OOC 3

Maybe Hikari could invent chemical treatment that can provide Invunerability and Stretching to cloth.  It wouls effect only the clothing, provide no protection to the wearer.  Synthetic fibers only.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:39, Thu 02 Mar 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1440 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 15:07
  • msg #533

Re: OOC 3

Eh.  Hikari's father Karl is the materials molecular engineer.. chemistry is not Hikari's strong suit.  He'd more likely design a collapsible/expandable micro-scale metal mesh composite armor.  It would have to be powered for the expansion and collapsible features and be relatively heavy.. only suitable for Very high strength individuals.

His father would be better suited for inventing a cloth of nano-material that could do that... he would not actually need to use nanites to do that... but technically ~ all his nano-tech is subject to legal contest as intellectual property of Krupp Aerospace.  But, Karl wouldn't tell of we don't! 'Shrug'

Hikari, however, is law-abiding.. so he'll never use any nano-tech of his father's design until the legal status of that tech is firmly resolved.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:08, Thu 02 Mar 2023.
Runa
player, 334 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 16:05
  • msg #534

Re: OOC 3

So what you're saying Hikari, is no cool nano material for Lilibeth for her costume for the con?

If she told him what kind of cosplay she wants to do, could he whip up something a little atronger than normal cotton and what not? I'm asking because while Runa can take a hit, Lilibeth is only a lightly above human normal in that regard. Mostly hasn't been and shouldn't be an issue, since she can transform so quickly but I'm curious.
JUSTICAR
player, 1442 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 16:14
  • msg #535

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 534):

lol. If your looking for the Avengers - Infinity War 'Iron Man' street hoody to Iron Man suit... yeah that's solid nanotech... Hikari "Could" do that if he used his father's nano-carbon machines, but he has ethical issue with that so.. sorry .. not on the table.

But he could Most certainly fabricate any costume she wanted AND he could armor it depending upon how much it covered and was styled... {No way is he going to be able to provide much protection for a Kekko Kamen cosplay...!}
Runa
player, 335 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 16:48
  • msg #536

Re: OOC 3

Kekko Kamen? Wow, hitting the old school button! ^_^

No worries, she wouldn't go for something like that. She would go for Cammy from Street Fighter (classic green outfit). Her fingerless gloved would be ideal as both hand protection and not interfere with her touch power. Bonus, she has long blonde hair so no need for dye or a wig!

Nina Williams from Tekken would be another possibility.

Seras Victoria from Van Helsing could be good too.
Captain Justice
player, 19 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 18:35
  • msg #537

Re: OOC 3

The main thing that Captain Justice  would want out of his armor would be protection for his hand and legs to allow him to strike superhumanly tough things or hard surfaces without hurting himself.
Next priority is enough protection for his hands and arms to parry weapon strikes.

The next priority is protection in general preferably without weighing him down. That said. It takes a lot to weigh Captain Justice down. He probably wouldn't care about carrying 200 pounds. Although he would feel 500 or 600 pounds.

If there is room, then things like communication equipment, navigation equipment, optics and an independent air supply would be nice extras.
JUSTICAR
player, 1444 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 18:42
  • msg #538

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Captain Justice (msg # 537):

All of that... and more is easily achiveble... i'll get a design idea prepared after work today. Cost is not an issue... hikari Never charges teammates for gear upgrades.

Whole thing should not exceed maybe 50lbs at the max...
This message was last edited by the player at 18:45, Thu 02 Mar 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 561 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 18:51
  • msg #539

Re: OOC 3

I would argue the most important quality for armor would be its ability to stop you from dying when shot. In this case, a decent pool of SDC and an AR13+. But I see the value in that other stuff.
Runa
player, 336 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 19:09
  • msg #540

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Captain Justice (msg # 537):

All of that... and more is easily achiveble... i'll get a design idea prepared after work today. Cost is not an issue... hikari Never charges teammates for gear upgrades.

Whole thing should not exceed maybe 50lbs at the max...

I'm guessing you meant the big man's costume would be 50lbs, not Lilibeth in her little Cammy costume ^_^
JUSTICAR
player, 1445 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 19:19
  • msg #541

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 540):

Lol. Yeah.  Do you mind if 'Cammie' has a gear belt and a headset as part of her costume?

It will be a permanent costume... Lilibeth's to decide what to do with afterward.  It will have to be partial armor as 'Cammie ' sports those bare camo-painted dancer's legs of hers.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:19, Thu 02 Mar 2023.
Runa
player, 337 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Mar 2023
at 19:58
  • msg #542

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
In reply to Runa (msg # 540):

Lol. Yeah.  Do you mind if 'Cammie' has a gear belt and a headset as part of her costume?

It will be a permanent costume... Lilibeth's to decide what to do with afterward.  It will have to be partial armor as 'Cammie ' sports those bare camo-painted dancer's legs of hers.

That works! I don't think anyone would really question that small difference.

So long as the costume protects her vitals, which her leotard does cover her entire torso, she would be fine. Anything that doesn't immediately take her out, she will have time to call for Runa.
JUSTICAR
player, 1446 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Fri 3 Mar 2023
at 01:48
  • msg #543

Re: OOC 3

Finished my post Captain Justice...
JUSTICAR
player, 1449 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Fri 3 Mar 2023
at 10:57
  • msg #544

Re: OOC 3

Not ignoring you Jacob in San Sebastian Isle... will post today.
Winter Herald
player, 570 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 7 Mar 2023
at 04:18
  • msg #545

Re: OOC 3

Wa-bam. Focusing mostly on the present, given that we have some time to prepare. If we can stop this in advance, or at least get the one who paid in advance, that could give us quite the edge. I am hoping that is an option.
JUSTAR
player, 4 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 EB:117 AR10
Thu 9 Mar 2023
at 11:15
  • msg #546

Re: OOC 3

Sorry, runa, captain justice, CMZ... been a busy past couple days...will post sometime today.
Runa
player, 347 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 9 Mar 2023
at 21:00
  • msg #547

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
Sorry, runa, captain justice, CMZ... been a busy past couple days...will post sometime today.

No worries. Stupid stuff happening at my work. Hoping to still post IC today
Chimp Man Z
player, 874 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 9 Mar 2023
at 22:41
  • msg #548

Re: OOC 3

I'm a high school custodian.  Overworked, underpaid, understaffed.  Having to deal with a chemical spill in a science classroom.  Gotta love hazmat.
Runa
player, 351 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 11 Mar 2023
at 22:17
  • msg #549

Re: OOC 3

@Captain Justice, I saw your post but am holding off replying for a bit to give Justicar a chance to respond to Runa's last post.
Captain Justice
player, 30 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Sat 11 Mar 2023
at 22:19
  • msg #550

Re: OOC 3

It's Cool.
JUSTAR
player, 8 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sat 11 Mar 2023
at 22:35
  • msg #551

Re: OOC 3

Sorry... got home really late last night from dnd...slept late.  Then got up to go see the demonslayer new movie out... getting lunch now...will be posting soon sorry for the delay.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:36, Sat 11 Mar 2023.
Runa
player, 352 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 11 Mar 2023
at 22:36
  • msg #552

Re: OOC 3

No worries, hope your tabletop game was fun ^_^
JUSTAR
player, 9 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sat 11 Mar 2023
at 22:45
  • msg #553

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 552):

Sigh...well... the alternate dm wanted to run a one-shot not our regular campaign.  Then proceeded to hand us random characters based upon a choice of colors.  I choose red and got a sexy female teifling fighter of chaotic evil alignment and the dm was shocked when the party did not cooperate with his very thin and not well motivated storyline.  I had fun but he sure didn't and not from just my actions alone! The whole group of random characters with experienced players ... we played the personalities he randomly determined for them... of course it was a train wreak. Lol!!!  We finished his scenario but not in ANYWAY he had planned...!!!
Senor Garcia
player, 270 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 12 Mar 2023
at 02:11
  • msg #554

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTAR (msg # 553):

Whenever a GM/DM hands out pregens it's best to leave some aspects for the character up to the player.

I ran a Palladium heist type back in 2009 where I took from Reservoir Dogs and named each character for a color. I allowed the players to change the portraits as they saw fit and give the character a background. If they wanted to swap an elective or secondary skill for another skill and it made sense, I let them.
JUSTAR
player, 11 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sun 12 Mar 2023
at 03:06
  • msg #555

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 554):

Yeah.. WE the players had to manufacture 'reasons' and 'motivations' for our characters to "work together" and not implode upon each other to actually accomplish the scenario.  In a properly written scenario this should not really be necessary it muddies the water of the plot of the scenario. I do not 'like' playing evil characters and many of my past DM's will attest to why .. I play them TOO well.

'sigh' I, Fortunately, found 'motivation' with the Teifling I'd been handed NOT to murder anyone in the party for.. y'know.. kicks. They gave me.. or at least I could manufacture reasons why they were useful to me alive and not more amusing to hear their screams from my playfully killing any of them .. just cause .. bored.

Chaotic, and Evil characters are NOT team players!
This message was last edited by the player at 03:07, Sun 12 Mar 2023.
JUSTAR
player, 13 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sun 12 Mar 2023
at 06:24
  • msg #556

Re: OOC 3

Opps SSOGM..was going to post some more investigatory research efforts and rolls in the LESP Offices thread tomorrow.. am I out of time?
SSOGM
GM, 965 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 12 Mar 2023
at 06:48
  • msg #557

Re: OOC 3

NO!
Shoot. I meant next week in game, not next week IRL.
Runa
player, 356 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 13 Mar 2023
at 15:40
  • msg #558

Re: OOC 3

I'm in vacation this week with my family. My posting will be sporadic I'm thinking.
Chimp Man Z
player, 880 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 22 Mar 2023
at 23:10
  • msg #559

Re: OOC 3

Hey, Paragon, I'm sorry I haven't posted tonthe Open RP.  Been working on a post, but it's kinda big, and those take me awhile.
Paragon
player, 54 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 23 Mar 2023
at 15:35
  • msg #560

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 559):
Take your time.
Runa
player, 358 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 23 Mar 2023
at 16:26
  • msg #561

Re: OOC 3

Is the current scene in the LESP office thread before or after the scene in the Open RP thread for Justicar, Runa and Captain Justice?

And who all is supposed to be in that scene in the LESP office? Are we ready to go on the mission to the convention center?
JUSTAR
player, 28 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Thu 23 Mar 2023
at 16:32
  • msg #562

Re: OOC 3

In my mind, at least, the LESP Office scene is taking place before the Noon Open RP... Hikari's flight to Japan is next evening.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:33, Thu 23 Mar 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 882 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 23 Mar 2023
at 16:56
  • msg #563

Re: OOC 3

Then that means the CMZ and Paragon are leaving for lunch.  I need to change my post.
JUSTAR
player, 29 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Thu 23 Mar 2023
at 17:00
  • msg #564

Re: OOC 3

Well my vision is NOT the only valid one if a more appropriate time would be more convenient for everyone?
Senor Garcia
player, 272 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 23 Mar 2023
at 17:24
  • msg #565

Re: OOC 3

Well I am not able to post multiple times a day and sometimes life gets busy and I can’t post for a few days.

That said I do not want my character to be the sole reason for slowing things down. But if multiple player characters have leads they way to track down I think it’s prudent to let’s us do so.

So I could use more time as my character is still looking into the motorcade route(s) to/from the airport.

[Private to GM: I’d also like a bit more time to move my side investigation forward ]
SSOGM
GM, 970 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 29 Mar 2023
at 06:02
  • msg #566

Re: OOC 3

If anyone needs anything from me to move forward, please PM me. I've had some extra workload this month and that usually means I miss things.
Runa
player, 359 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 29 Mar 2023
at 14:12
  • msg #567

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
If anyone needs anything from me to move forward, please PM me. I've had some extra workload this month and that usually means I miss things.

I'm good, just waiting in Justicar to post next in the Open RP thread, rooftop scene.
JUSTAR
player, 31 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 29 Mar 2023
at 19:56
  • msg #568

Re: OOC 3

Sorry. On vacation this week... been chillin'.  I'll post something... in a bit...
SSOGM
GM, 971 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 2 Apr 2023
at 15:42
  • msg #569

Re: OOC 3

I've been holding the next post till the current RP was through, let me know when you're ready for the morning of the convention/political banquet.
Runa
player, 360 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 2 Apr 2023
at 16:40
  • msg #570

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
I've been holding the next post till the current RP was through, let me know when you're ready for the morning of the convention/political banquet.

I've been waiting for Justicar to post next for the rooftop workout scene in the Open RP thread but that hasn't happened.

I can get that scene started but I don't want to be the one to delay the forwarding of the story.
Chimp Man Z
player, 886 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 2 Apr 2023
at 18:41
  • msg #571

Re: OOC 3

I'm good, I guess.
Paragon
player, 56 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sun 2 Apr 2023
at 19:27
  • msg #572

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 571):

I think we can continue the Open RP during the normal. I'm ready.
Chimp Man Z
player, 887 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 2 Apr 2023
at 20:51
  • msg #573

Re: OOC 3

Yes, we can.  The open RP is not dependent upon current timeline.
JUSTAR
player, 32 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Mon 3 Apr 2023
at 10:57
  • msg #574

Re: OOC 3

Back from Vacation... I'll be posting today...
JUSTAR
player, 39 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 5 Apr 2023
at 18:12
  • msg #575

Re: OOC 3

Not wanting to 'run over' Captain Justice in the RP..so I'm waiting for him to post...
JUSTICAR
player, 1468 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 6 Apr 2023
at 11:52
  • msg #576

Re: OOC 3

'Sigh'... Sorry folks... some MAJOR Real World Turmoil in my life yesterday...  looking for a new job.  Really stressing me out from the unexpected suddenness of it... kind of depressed.  I'll "try" to get a post out today...
Runa
player, 364 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 6 Apr 2023
at 12:11
  • msg #577

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
'Sigh'... Sorry folks... some MAJOR Real World Turmoil in my life yesterday...  looking for a new job.  Really stressing me out from the unexpected suddenness of it... kind of depressed.  I'll "try" to get a post out today...

First, terribly sorry to hear that.

Second, in the hierarchy of priorities, PBP is pretty far down there, so don't even give this a thought.

Third, thank you for taking a portion of your limited time to tell us.
JUSTICAR
player, 1469 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 6 Apr 2023
at 12:56
  • msg #578

Re: OOC 3

Thank You Runa... that's... really helpful and sweet of you!  I'm.. not my biggest fan ... right now, but at least I'm not so ashamed, embarrassed and Mad At Myself that I can't see straight.. like yesterday.

Again.. Thank You very much...
This message was last edited by the player at 13:03, Thu 06 Apr 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 889 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 6 Apr 2023
at 13:25
  • msg #579

Re: OOC 3

Shit happens and you gotta deal with it.  We'll be here.
JUSTICAR
player, 1470 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 6 Apr 2023
at 13:58
  • msg #580

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 579):

Thanks Z... I'll get through this...
Winter Herald
player, 579 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 9 Apr 2023
at 07:06
  • msg #581

Re: OOC 3

Gripped by a fey mood. Hopefully sleep will get rid of it. The kids should wake me up early enough, and I should be able to deliver a post today between watching them.
Paragon
player, 58 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Mon 10 Apr 2023
at 13:49
  • msg #582

Re: OOC 3

Sorry for being quiet. Family issues.
JUSTAR
player, 44 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Mon 10 Apr 2023
at 14:25
  • msg #583

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Paragon (msg # 582):

Is cool.. Family matters.. this is just a hobby.  Post when you can! :)
Chimp Man Z
player, 890 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 10 Apr 2023
at 20:24
  • msg #584

Re: OOC 3

quote:
Existing game open to new blood...
That didn't come out as gently as it did in my head

ROFLMMFAO!
Senor Garcia
player, 274 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 10 Apr 2023
at 22:44
  • msg #585

Re: OOC 3

I've been busy IRL the past few weeks....

Will be reading posts and catching up, but my character is pretty much doing his own thing because he's a paranoid old man.
Veteran Grunt
player, 19 posts
Wed 12 Apr 2023
at 10:42
  • msg #586

Re: OOC 3

Hello people! I am the new guy, just wanted to ask y'all in here what kind of characters the game could use/not use and inquire about potential connections with other characters :)
JUSTAR
player, 45 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 12 Apr 2023
at 11:58
  • msg #587

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Veteran Grunt (msg # 586):

Welcome Veteran!  Our selection of characters is wildly varying... but we do have several 'soldier' type oigins... though one could still be a soldier in background and story from many different power origins.

Currently ~
Justicar / Justar - Robotics: Exoskeleton Pilot / Mutant Genius = Half German/Japanese Teen Genius who built a Robotic Exoskeleton with his Mutant Genius  before realizing he had 'actual' Energy Transformation Mutant powers

Chimpman Z - Mutant = Invulnerable Chimpanzee 'Think X-Men's 'Beast' was born with a non-human appearance, that recently when exposed to a mutagen changed appearance into a more human look with a tail retaining all his powers in his new more human-like body

Winter Herald - Robotics = Advanced AI Robot Spy Infiltrator

Runa - Magic: Mystically Bestowed Abilities = Priestess of Ishtar Alter-Ego Transformation

Senior Garcia - Special Training: Secret Operative{?} = Veteran Elite Special Forces Soldier

Spy Master - Special Training: Secret Operative{?} = Veteran Elite Special Forces Soldier

Paragon - Mutant{?} = CIA Operative with Mutant powers

Captain Justice - Experiment = Ex-Soldier Crime Fighter with super power of flight


What the team lacks is an Actual Magic Spellcaster or a gifted Psionic.  Now such power origins could Still be soldiers... just talented in those area and tapped by the Government /Military for their expertise in those 'talents' because they are so rare and highly sought after skill set.  Such characters could STILL be very martial and skilled in combat as soldiers but have potent non-traditional solider  abilities.

BUT..all that said AS ALWAYS... play what best suits you.. NOT what the party 'Needs'! We've gotten by with every concept that has joined the team and we'll be fine with whatever you decide to play!

Welcome to the Game!
This message was last edited by the player at 11:59, Wed 12 Apr 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 581 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 12 Apr 2023
at 12:06
  • msg #588

Re: OOC 3

Hmm. Well, let's see...

As you can see, we're pretty full on the skilled agent department (Captain Justice and Paragon in the supersoldier department, and Garcia and Spymaster in the Experienced side of things). I mean, nothing stops you from being another one, but we've got three of those. We've got a neural intelligence robot (myself), and a robot pilot who just became a mutant (Justar). Chimp Man Z is also Mutant, although in their case they are Sun Wukong minus the fancier stuff. Runa is a Deific Chosen with a few specializations but is relatively good at all of them - healing, repair, warfare, and a solid science background.

If Polaris is currently a PC, that's news to me - they were explained to me as basically Magneto. I haven't been introduced to Beaumont or Teruka yet.

As for "roles," well... let's see. Paragon, Garcia and Spymaster have got the subtle game down. Justar is generally going to combine drone support with his own powers. Z tries to draw fire and does a decent job at it, because he's basically indestructible. The Captain and Runa are both air support these days with the Captain being very good at it, and Runa can switch-hit between repair, doc, and aforementioned air support. I'm probably the fastest person on the team outside of a dedicated Justicar mech.

So, five striker types, a dedicated field medic, a zone controller, and one tanky boi if he can draw the fire, otherwise he's a battering ram striker-type like the Captain and myself, with the Captain being something of a blink-tank. So potentially, six strikers and zero tank, although if I am willing to slow down I can draw fire, and interfering with fire is part of zone control.

Dedicated tank is probably the weak point here - we don't have someone who I would say is clearly the Powerhouse of the team (I would make the case for myself if CMZ does not count, but I am pure Ego and not to be trusted on that). The Powerhouse is the metric of "Do we need to end this fight right now, one way or the other?" As long as the Powerhouse is standing, all is good. When they go down, the fight is going to end - either with the quick defeat of the enemy, a retreat if that is not possible, or defeat of the party if that is not an option. Zone control and a secondary medic are also welcome, although those are specific to make and easy to mess up in execution.

But... there is always value in moar damage. That will rarely be completely useless. So if you have a specific vision in mind, do not let anything I have brought to your attention deter you.
Senor Garcia
player, 275 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 12 Apr 2023
at 13:17
  • msg #589

Re: OOC 3

Veteran Grunt:
Hello people! I am the new guy, just wanted to ask y'all in here what kind of characters the game could use/not use and inquire about potential connections with other characters :)

Señor Garcia is an old Cold War relic who has has been sending people to meet whatever deity they believe in since the early 1970’s.

He also has the skills to conduct both HUMINT and SIGINT intelligence gathering.

Character started out as a Commando Merc from N&SS and then received super solider augments.

If your character had any dealing with the CIA or US Special Operations you may have crossed paths with him.


Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
Odds are the Señor Garcia will eventually go insane and lead a world wide uprising of super soldiers where once defeated the captured survivors be placed in cyro sleep and sent off into deep space.

Chimp Man Z
player, 893 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 12 Apr 2023
at 15:13
  • msg #590

Re: OOC 3

Did you know that in Star Trek:  The Wrath of Khan, Khan's costume revealed Ricardo Montalban's ACTUAL chest?  At 60+ years of age, he was still a bodybuilder.
Veteran Grunt, a Military Police background would be useful.  If using Ninja& Superspies, I would recommend the Security Specialist program, with duplicated skills replaced with Rogue skills and others like Crime Scene Investigation or Criminal Sciences/Forensics.
Chimp Man Z is a former Circus Performer who decided to go to college, ended up becoming a vigilante, a paramedic, a firefighter, and, eventually, a cop.  He has done some contract work with the US military, primarily as a test subject for new munitions.  He is testing the limits of his power, and he thinks it's kind of fun to be able to say he has shrugged off tank munitions,rockets, and missiles, without harm.
Polaris and Teruka are NPCs, and are not part of the team in any way.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:42, Wed 12 Apr 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 276 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 12 Apr 2023
at 16:07
  • msg #591

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
Did you know that in Star Trek:  The Wrath of Khan, Khan's costume revealed Ricardo Montalban's ACTUAL chest?  At 70+ years of age, he was still a bodybuilder.


I know, so many people thought they were fake at first.

After realizing that the then 62 year old Ricardo Montalban (born 1920) he was was in really good shape they re-did the costume to show off his chest as a way to accentuate the character’s genetic superiority.
Spymaster
player, 30 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 03:13
  • msg #592

Re: OOC 3

Welcome in, however many new people we have. I've been around, just nothing going on for me to do at the moment, so I'm just waiting for threads to move forward.

And as it's stands, Spymaster is also exCIA, with no actual superpowers, just a ridiculously large set of skills, and martial arts that should hopefully allow him to stand up against organic enemies no matter how tough they are. And if not, well, hopefully he can find enough gun to take down his target.

I will say I can't fly a jet, and computers are one of my weaker points. I was going for a more old school, boots on the ground, intelligence guy.
Runa
player, 369 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 03:20
  • msg #593

Re: OOC 3

Having tons of skills is a super power in itself. ^_^
Veteran Grunt
player, 20 posts
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 12:45
  • msg #594

Re: OOC 3

Before I continue, the name I currently have is just a place holder so a military background is not necessary for my character although I won't rule it out. So I picked up that the team could use either a Magic type caster or a straight up tank who can take and deal damage? I can work with either of those, I got plenty of ideas. If it helps, I got characters ideas that sre similar to/inspired by Batman, Constantine, Superman-ish, Hulk, Ultron, Ghost Rider and more! I am, however, not at all familiar with the system.
Runa
player, 370 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 13:35
  • msg #595

Re: OOC 3

Veteran Grunt:
Before I continue, the name I currently have is just a place holder so a military background is not necessary for my character although I won't rule it out. So I picked up that the team could use either a Magic type caster or a straight up tank who can take and deal damage? I can work with either of those, I got plenty of ideas. If it helps, I got characters ideas that sre similar to/inspired by Batman, Constantine, Superman-ish, Hulk, Ultron, Ghost Rider and more! I am, however, not at all familiar with the system.

Welcome! I'm still pretty new here myself. A traditional spell caster would be incredibly useful. In our last mission we faced opponents that simply didn't respond to mundane tactics like bullets, punching or energy beams. A spell caster can usually sense magic too which is another thing the party isn't equipped to do.

As far as the system goes, there are options, everything from a Doctor Strange or Doctor Fate type, to blends between super powers and spells.
Spymaster
player, 31 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 18:04
  • msg #596

Re: OOC 3

Veteran Grunt:
Before I continue, the name I currently have is just a place holder so a military background is not necessary for my character although I won't rule it out. So I picked up that the team could use either a Magic type caster or a straight up tank who can take and deal damage? I can work with either of those, I got plenty of ideas. If it helps, I got characters ideas that sre similar to/inspired by Batman, Constantine, Superman-ish, Hulk, Ultron, Ghost Rider and more! I am, however, not at all familiar with the system.


So Heroes Unlimited is oldschool, Palladium tables for days fun, so it's usually better to build the character first, then decide what they'll be. Like in the group you listed, Batman would either be a Special Training character, or a Seasoned Adventurer like me, Garcia is more Captain America skills and augments together, Constantine would be a Magician or a Wizard, depending on classic or modern version, Superman-ish usually falls under Mega-Hero, though you can get a toned down version as a mutant or Supersoldier, Hulk would fall under a Mutant, or a Physical Gestalt from Powers Unlimited 1, Ultron is a Robotic, Ghost Rider would be best as an Immortal from Powers Unlimited 1.

Start in this thread:
link to a message in this game

It has the rules of how the GM has changed up character gen to give a bit more freedom, plus things that aren't allowed, so you don't pick them if it's your pick, or reroll one of the forbidden options if you were rolling. But honestly, make a character close to what you want, if it covers the gaps, great, but if it doesn't, we'll manage. Better to have a character you want to play over one that really helps the team but you hate.
Runa
player, 372 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 18:15
  • msg #597

Re: OOC 3

Spymaster:
It has the rules of how the GM has changed up character gen to give a bit more freedom, plus things that aren't allowed, so you don't pick them if it's your pick, or reroll one of the forbidden options if you were rolling. But honestly, make a character close to what you want, if it covers the gaps, great, but if it doesn't, we'll manage. Better to have a character you want to play over one that really helps the team but you hate.


Absolutely true! Don't feel pressured to make something only because it would fill a gap in the party. You have to play something you enjoy too or why bother playing at all?
JUSTAR
player, 49 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Thu 13 Apr 2023
at 23:42
  • msg #598

Re: OOC 3

Sorry.  Been preocupied... step mom went into hospital for hip surgery... been... likely worrying overmuch. She's back home and feeling far less pain now. I'll try to post something tonight.
Chimp Man Z
player, 896 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 14 Apr 2023
at 00:37
  • msg #599

Re: OOC 3

Hey, don't sweat it.  I think we can survive another day without one of your novels. LOL
REcycle-Man
player, 1 post
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 02:23
  • msg #600

Re: OOC 3

Another new player, saw you could use a caster type.  Not super familiar with system, but looking at stuff.

Thinking will be an alien that comes to Earth and takes the view of defending all creatures that can't speak (ie nature & plants & animals, etc).
Chimp Man Z
player, 898 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 03:31
  • msg #601

Re: OOC 3

How sweet!  Fresh meat!
Senor Garcia
player, 277 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 03:38
  • msg #602

Re: OOC 3

REcycle-Man:
Another new player, saw you could use a caster type.  Not super familiar with system, but looking at stuff.

Thinking will be an alien that comes to Earth and takes the view of defending all creatures that can't speak (ie nature & plants & animals, etc).

Sounds like a cool concept!

Señor Garcia does eat his fruits and vegetables though, so hopefully that won’t be a problem.
REcycle-Man
player, 2 posts
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 05:56
  • msg #603

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
Señor Garcia does eat his fruits and vegetables though, so hopefully that won’t be a problem.

Vegetables and fruits want to be eaten, so long as you drop the seeds off somewhere they can grow. You are helping the plant to reproduce, if you don't flush the seeds out into the ocean.

;)

But regardless, I don't think they will be that militant.
Chimp Man Z
player, 899 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 06:25
  • msg #604

Re: OOC 3

I don't know.  Technically, when you eat a fruit, you are eating the plant's ovary.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:13, Tue 18 Apr 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 583 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 18 Apr 2023
at 11:50
  • msg #605

Re: OOC 3

Some plants are evolved to be consumed, some are not. Still, a nature's wrath type is going to be interesting. There's a lot of techies on the team, of which I am the logical evolution thereof. So the RP has potential.
REcycle-Man
player, 3 posts
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 05:34
  • msg #606

Re: OOC 3

Char won't be anti-tech, and eating a plants' reproductive organs while allowing it to reproduce is not a bad act.

Humanity (and animals) are meant to spread seeds and manure together across the landscapes, but some idiot invented flush toilets that send manure into the oceans and seeds will not be able to be grow there.

So it's really flush toilets that should be eradicated.
JUSTAR
player, 52 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 05:53
  • msg #607

Re: OOC 3

In reply to REcycle-Man (msg # 606):

Or at least a better system and end location for human waste.. instead of just dumping into the ocean... waste treatment should in fact be waste utilization and redistribution to where it can be utilized properly.

Hikari - Justicar / Justar is all about pushing for 'Green' energy sources and mankind learning to be much better custodians of the Earth.
SSOGM
GM, 975 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 19 Apr 2023
at 09:31
  • msg #608

Re: OOC 3

Oddly enough, it wouldn't be the first eco-friendly Crusader.
Evergreen:
Name: Evergreen True Name: Miss Marie Barstow Player: NPC
Super Power Category: Mystically Bestowed Education Level: High School
Alignment: Scrupulous Occupation: heroine
Experience Level:  4   Experience Points:
Hit Points:     SDC (natural):  +158  Chi:
Armor Rating:   SDC (artificial):
Height: 54"/78" Weight: 110lbs/220lbs Age: 83  Sex: Female
Eye Color: brown Hair Color: gray Land of Origin: USA
Birth Order:             Disposition:

IQ 13
ME 15
MA 18
PS 25
PE 18
PP 22
PB 13
Spd 50
vs. Lethal Poison
vs. Non-Lethal Poison
vs. Harmful Drugs
Charm/Impress
vs. Insanity
vs. Psionics
vs. Coma/Death
+1 vs. Spell Magic
+1 vs. Ritual Magic
vs. Mind (var.)
+2 vs. Horror (var.)
------------------------------------------------------------------
SKILLS (High School Educational Level can only select from the
following skill programs: Computer, Criminal, Domestic, Physical,
Language, Thief, Technical and W. P. Ancient.
)
    Everyman
  • Pilot: Automobile
  • Basic Mathematics

High School Graduate
Select two Skill Programs (+5% bonus) and 10 Secondary skills.
    Domestic
  • Cooking
  • Sewing
  • Dancing

    Physical
  • Acrobatics
  • Gymnastics
  • Climbing (65+5)
  • Prowl (40+5)

    SECONDARY SKILLS
  1. Hand to Hand: Basic
  2. General Athletics
  3. Running
  4. Body Building & Weightlifting
  5. Swimming
  6. Language: Spanish
  7. Computer Operation
  8. General Repair/Maintenance
  9. Art: Drawing
  10. Land Navigation
    • two at level three
    • Running
    • General Athletics



    60% +2% per level - Sense of balance
    60% +3% per level - Work parallel bars & rings
    60% +3% per level - Walk tightrope or high wire
    70% +2% per level - Climb rope
    70% +2% per level - Back flip

    adds +15% to climb skill.
    adds +5% to prowl skill.

------------------------------------------------------------------
Hand to Hand Type: Basic
skillbonusskillbonus
Attacks per melee3To Strike+4
Parry+8Dodge+8
Roll+8Pull Punch+2

COMBAT SKILLS
Escape MovesRoll With Punch/Fall/Impact
Basic Defensive Moves Dodge, Parry, Automatic Parry
Advanced DefensesDisarm
Hand AttacksStrike (1d4)
Basic Foot AttacksKarate Kick (2d4), Snap Kick (1d6)
Special Attacks Body Block/Tackle
Modifiers to AttacksPull Punch

---------------------------------------------------------------
POWERS/EQUIPMENT/NOTES

Mystically bestowed super characters are usually individuals selected by a supernatural force of order (good) or chaos (evil) to champion their causes. The individual selected is often a very ordinary person whose moral integrity and emotional state are deemed to be exactly right to champion their cause. Once selected, the mystic force (god, demon lord, etc.) will appear to the individual, explain that he or she has been chosen to receive a great gift, given a speech about the eternal battle between good and evil, followed by a pep talk ("You can do it . . . have confidence in yourself," "you are the right choice," etc.) and, finally, "poof," the super or magic abilities are bestowed.
The person is normal in every way until he/she calls upon the power within him. This can be done by force of will (mentally) or by calling on the name of the bestowing power, or a special trigger word, like . . . Shazoomy! Calling upon this force will instantly transform the person into a mighty, costumed visage of power. If the person is a child, old, invalid, or normally physically out of shape, he or she will be transformed into a youthful, powerfully built figure of heroic image. The following bonuses apply only when transformed into the superheroic (or evil) figure. Adjust all attributes as follows: These apply only when the character is transformed .
M.A. +2D6 (minimum of 18)
P.S. +2D6 (minimum of 20)
P.P. +1D6 (minimum of 18)
Spd. Multiply by five (minimum speed of 24)
S.D.C. +3D6x10.
The transformation from an ordinary Joe into a superhuman is instant. The actual change can be flamboyant, like being hit by a lightning bolt, being engulfed in a blinding flash or cloud of smoke, or subtle, and almost imperceptible to anyone except those right near the person. The change also includes clothes and costume, similar to the transformation provided by the Enchanted Weapon. Suddenly, one's casual attire is gone, replaced by a dashing costume typical of a comic book hero and reflective of the character's costumed identity and/or powers or personal tastes. The costume design is left entirely up to the player and can be as elaborate, sublime, or simple as he/she may desire. The transformation is under the hero's complete control. Only he/she, or the bestower of the power, can initiate the change. Furthermore, only the bestowing entity can permanently strip the character of his power. A Negate Magic or Anti-Magic Cloud spell will temporarily strip the character of his/her abilities, momentarily transforming the person back into h is ordinary, fragile form. However, the character gets to save vs magic with a +4 to save against the negation of magic. If a successful save is made, nothing happens, and he retains his magical powers. A failed save vs magic means he is instantly transformed from superhuman to ordinary person. The imposed transformation lasts a mere 1D6 melee rounds, but that can seem like an eternity during a fierce battle or life and death situation.
Player's Note: Because of the unusual nature of the magical transformation into a powerhouse hero, it can be fun and ironic to play a regular, totally ordinary person to a weak, scrawny or physically impaired individual (crippled, paraplegic, dying of cancer or other disease) with little or no physical skills and pitiful at tributes. The following optional table can be used to determine the type of physical limitations that apply to you r character. If desired, physical attributes can be reduced to fit the minimum attribute requirements. Remember, this is entirely at the player's option and the player is invited to come up with his or her own frailties and background .
Type of Bestowed Super Ability
The player whose character's powers are magically bestowed can either select one of the following or roll for a random determination.
01-25 Two Major Super Abilities of choice.
Those with super abilities have 1D4x10+10 P.P.E.
Special Bonuses & Abilities
Creates a costume or "battle dress" out of thin air.
Appears muscular, strong, healthy and youthful.
+1 to save against magic of any kind
+1 to save vs possession at levels 1 , 3, 6, 9, 1 2, and 1 5.
+2 to save vs Horror Factor at levels 1 , 3, 5, 7, 9, and 13.
+2 on initiative.
+2 to pull punch .
Other Stuff for
the Mystically Bestowed
Alignment: Any alignment can be chosen, but heroes should
generally be of good alignment.
Level of Education and Skill Selection: Standard; see creating a character.
Hand to Hand Combat: Physical combat skills are not automatic, but must be selected as a learned skill.
Attacks Per Melee (Hand to Hand): As with all heroes, mystic characters automatically get two attacks per melee. Those characters who have no hand to hand combat skill get two additional attacks per melee round at level one and one additional at levels four and nine. Those who have some sort of hand to hand combat training only get one additional attack at
level six.
Weapons and Armor: Unless the character is extremely wealthy, only conventional weaponry and body armor would be available.
Structural Damage Capacity (S.D.C.): 1D6x10+30 S.D.C. when transformed, +10 S.D.C. in thei r ordinary form. Remember,
S.D.C. and abilities gained from the transformation do NOT apply when in normal human form .
Available Financial Resources: 2D4x1000 dollars are available in ready cash. This is in addition to a possible life savings (See optional rules to rounding out one's character) . There is a 90% likelihood the character owns a conventional car (unless paralyzed). The car is 1D4 years old. Presumably, the character has a job, apartment and reasonable personal possessions.


Major Super Ability from Powers Unlimited 3
Alter Physical Structure: Wood
Original concept by Richard Winters
This power turns the character into a wood mannequin
or tree-like humanoid, complete with bark skin and leaf
hair. While in wood form, the character is strong and has
special abilities.
1. Increased Size and Mass: The character's weight is doubled and they
are 2 feet (0.6 m) taller in wooden form.
2. Armor Rating and SDC: The wooden character has an AR of 12 and 400 SDC.
ElectriCity, lasers, and energy bolts do normal damage when the roll to
strike is 13 or higher, and half damage if 12 or below.
The hero is resistant to cold-based attacks, poisons and drugs (all do
half damage, except herbicides which do full damage).
Fire, plasma and magical fire all do double damage.
3. Rooting to the Ground: The wood character is able to "anchor" themself
to the ground by sending wooden roots deep into the earth. This takes
three melee actions to accomplish and must be done on open ground (not concrete,
tar, stone, metal or plastic surfaces). Once anchored, moving the character
requires a Supernatural P.S. that is greater than the character's own P.S.
4. Manifest a Hammering Limb: The character can transform his hand and
forearm into a blunt weapon that extends his reach 4-5 feet (1.2 to 1.5 m)
and is used like a hammer, club or mace.
Range: Hand to hand combat, as if using a long club, mace or staff.
Damage: 2D6 plus damage bonuses from P.S. attribute, skills and applicable
other powers.
Bonuses: +1 to strike, +1 to parry, +1 to disarm, +2 to pull punch.
5. Shoot Arrows: The character can generate and fire wooden bolts or arrows
from his fingers. Can make and fire one at a time or a burst/volley attack.
A burst of arrows counts as one melee attack but is fired without benefit of
any bonuses to strike.
Range: 200 feet (61 m) + 20 feet (6. 1 m) per level of experience.
Damage: 2D6 per arrow/bolt.
Duration: Instant, but the arrows remain permanently.
Rate of Fire: Each individual arrow/bolt or volley of 2-4 shafts at a time
count as one melee attack/action.
Payload: Can create and fire multiple arrows/bolts as one burst attack.
Number of arrows possible: one at levels 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10 and 13.
Bonuses to Strike: As per P. P. attribute and combat skill bonuses. In
addition, the more experienced super being (3rd level and up) can divide
the arrow attack to fire two simultaneous bursts (2-4 arrows each hand)
at two different targets. This means he can fire a burst or single arrow
(character's choice) from one hand at an opponent in one direction and at
a second in another direction. However, both bursts are done without benefit
of any P.P. or strike bonus of any kind; natural, unmodified
die roll (1 D20) only. Shooting at one target,
the character's usual strike bonuses apply, provided he
takes aim and is not shooting wild (no bonuses for
shooting wild).
6. The Forest from the Trees : Can transform to look like
an ordinary young tree, provided the character is standing
in a grove of trees (must be at least five other trees
in a 1 5 footl4.6 m radius). There's no way to tell the
character apart from the genuine article. However, the
second the character takes any action, he turns back
into an obvious humanoid tree or wooden being.
7. Bonuses/Abil ities While in Wood Form : The character can't be seen on infrared, thermal vision or heat sensors, is impervious to most toxic gasses that hurt humans, doesn't breathe oxygen (breathes carbon dioxide and releases oxygen, which can be used by humans), floats in water, and regenerates/heals 5x faster than the normal healing rate for humans. In wood form, the character can also feed on sunlight and water, provided he spends at least three hours just standing and drinking in the sun while in wood form (double that period if cloudy or overcast skies).


Plant Control
The character can direct, manipulate and grow plants at an
astounding level .
1 . Animate and Control Plants.
Range: Area of 40 feet (12.2 m) +10 feet (3 m) per additional
level of experience, at distances up to 100 feet (30.5 m) plus 10
feet (3 m ) per level of experience away.
The character can mentally manipulate all plant life within a 40
foot ( 1 2.2 m) radius around him. Thus, he can cause any vines,
weeds, shrubs, or trees to trap and ensnare an animal, entangle
someone, or cover something. He can also manipulate the larger
plants to grab and hold something . Although the limbs of the
plants can be made to move and function like hands and arms,
they are still restricted by the fact that the plant is rooted in the
soil .
This control requires the full concentration of the character,
preventing him from taking other actions.
Notes on plants: Since the superbeing is likely to use this
ability to impede movement and to attack, here are some basic
statistics:
Weeds, grass, soft plants: S.D.C. 1 D6, inflicts no damage.
Heavy weeds, vines: A.A. 5, S.D.C. 2D6, damage 1 D6 per
melee, +2 to strike.
Bushes, shrubs, small trees : A.A. 6, S.D.C. 4D6 + 4, damage
from strangle is 2D6 per melee or 1 D4 damage for hitti ng or
whipping.
Average trees: A.A. 8, S. D.C. 4D6x1 0, damage is 2D4 per
each hit.
Large trees: A.A. 10, S. D.C. 6D6x1 0, damage is 4D6 per hit.
Maxi mum Attacks by a Plant Per Melee: Six. All attacks
must be within the character's line of vision.
Entanglement can be utilized within the entire radius of control,
even outside the line of vision.
2. Grow Plants: The character can grow most plants and
shrubs, from seed to matu rity, in 1 D4 melee rounds (a minute or
less) . Trees and large, tree-size plants grow at a rate of 8 feet
(2.4 m) per melee round, up to 200 feet (61 m) tall.
The growth is temporary, and the plants will retum to their
original, normal size within 20 minutes or at the character's command
.
3. Alter Wood : The character can alter the strength of wood
by increasing or decreasing its S.D.C. This applies to any kind of
wood item; doors, ladders, chairs, tables, an area of floor, club,
and so on.
Items at one foot (0.3 m) can have their S.D.C. increased or
reduced by 1 0.
Items 2-4 feet (.6 to 1 .2 m) can be increased or reduced by 30
S.D.C.
Items or areas of wood 5- 1 0 feet ( 1 .5 to 3 m) can be increased
or decreased by 1 00 S . D .C.
Wood items larger than this are limited to an increase or decrease
of 1 00 S.D.C.
Living woodltrees can be increased or decreased by 25%.
4. Wither Plants:
Range: 20 feet (6 m) away + 1 0 feet (3 m) per level of experience.
Area of Affect: 20 foot (6 m) radius.
Attacks Per Melee: Plants (not large bushes or trees) can be
withered once per melee - reduced to one Hit Point and vulnerable
to frost, other conditions or additional damage that can kill it.
5. Other Abil ities and Bonuses.
Recognize and Identify Plants: 85% + 1 % per experience
level.
+ 1 0% to climb trees or vines.
Add 1 D4x1 0 to SD.C.

REcycle-Man
player, 4 posts
Fri 21 Apr 2023
at 06:01
  • msg #609

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 608):

The powers I'm looking at might be similar too!  I didn't pick "mystically bestowed", wow that really beefs up the stat block!!
Winter Herald
player, 586 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 07:28
  • msg #610

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald has actually had one source shoot him straight on how magic and Potential Psychic Energy worked, and what this had to do with what was understood as a "soul," but the specifics of it struck him as such nonsense, he dismissed them as another scammer in a sea of scammers. Ley lines? Nexus points? People were drawn to live at these points in large cities subconsciously because the "energies" were there, and not because there was a ready supply of reasonably clean water and resources needed to ensure basic needs were met, and encouraged large groups of people to create interconnected groups for mutual survival and profit?

To the machine, this explanation is from someone who assigns mystical causes to that which can be explained in a more banal manner. So he actually got his answer on the soul from one source who actually told him straight up, but he has dismissed it.

He'll probably ask REcycle-Man about it, get a similar answer, cross-reference the earlier dismissed response, and give it more weight in consensus from then on when continuing his search.
REcycler
player, 6 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Mon 24 Apr 2023
at 14:00
  • msg #611

Re: OOC 3

Wound up a bit different than Evergreen, but should still be loads of fun to play.  :)
Winter Herald
player, 587 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 09:01
  • msg #612

Re: OOC 3

Oh, one thing:

It's stupid for me to bring up, but...

Just so we are clear, I can understand your character, right? That has some interesting implications if so. Note I am not disagreeing - merely clarifying.

Note: You will not have to create a separate language thread for him and me. I can absolutely pretend I cannot understand someone if needed. Because that would admittedly be funny.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:04, Tue 25 Apr 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 979 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 12:38
  • msg #613

Re: OOC 3

REcycler speaks several earth languages. But Winter Herald wouldn't hear REcycler's mental speech. For that, REcycler should probably use
method for leaving someone out:
[Private to not Winter Herald: this code excludes an individual]

REcycler
player, 8 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 15:11
  • msg #614

Re: OOC 3

Sorry was an assumption that people would hear in their minds, as REcycler telepathically speaks to people by nature.
But no brain, no telepathy, so that makes sense.  :)

Dif topic -- article on RIFTS - https://www.fanbyte.com/games/...hat-was-mega-damage/

It's a funny article describing how MegaDamage messes up RIFTS (ie Palladium) -- but unclear why GMs couldn't tweak those rules?

Personally I like the notion that MegaDamage could obliterate things quickly, like NPCs for storytelling, but seems like would really mess up in-game combat.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:13, Tue 25 Apr 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 902 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 15:25
  • msg #615

Re: OOC 3

Nah.  There are plenty of ways it works.  You just have to have a good gaming group. mD does make combat more lethal, though.
JUSTICAR
player, 1471 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 16:07
  • msg #616

Re: OOC 3

MD Does make combats more lethal, but I personally played plenty of RIFTS games where my character would disarm and unarmor to relax.  Now rarely was it that ANYONE went anywhere completely disarmed... but my Cyber-knight she specialized in Vampire Slaying which was a whole different form of combat in RIFTS as Vampires could only be killed with VERY specific types of attacks and mega-damage was itself mostly useless against them!

I think the most useful rules out of RIFTS were not the mega-damage but the evolution of the ranged combat rules and "dodging Beams and bullets" alterations to the rules to make them more 'realistic'.  Can't dodge a bullet and the further away you are shot at from.. that harder it is to actual dodge it... but also the closer the shooter is it gets easier to be hit as well.  The rules came to an imperfect but acceptible  balance of cinematic  versus common sense...

Combat Target Numbers:
- {R:GMG ‘2017e’, p.38-42} All Ranged Attacks: TN8 (1 attack vs MB); Aimed Shot: +2ST (2 att vs MB);
Called Shot: (2 att vs target loc [-3/-4]); Aimed Called Shot: +2ST (2att-SS,3 att vs target loc); Blind Shot: -10ST;
Burst - Reduce bonus by -1/2 ST (-3ST no WP);
Wild Shot: -6 ST; Range Penalty: +30% effective Range, -5 ST;
Moving Target: -1 ST ‘Evasion action’, -1 ST/ and -1 ST/50mph over 20mph;
Target Under Cover: Req. Called Shot {No shot under total cover}

Defenses:
- {R:GMG ‘2017e’, p.38-42} Dodge Gunfire: {4’ft} -10DG/ {15’ft+} -5DG/ {60’ft} -3DG/ {61’ft+} -2DG;
Note: A character with an MDC shield, force field or special ability MAY PARRY a ranged attack at an additional -2.

VAMPIRE-SLAYING:
Decapitation:  21 dam/HP, ‘Called Shot’{R:WB1 VK-r, p.72}, Nat 20, or TN24 ‘modified’, Surprise/behind +3 ST
Stake Heart: ‘Stationary’{R:WB1 VK-r, p.82}, TN10 {P.S. 28 normal, 18 robotic, 10 sn}
Stake Heart: ‘Close Combat’{R:WB1 VK-r, p.83}, “Called Shot” TN16
Stake Heart: ‘Long Range’{R:WB1 VK-r, p.83}, ‘Called Shot’, Nat 20, or TN24 ‘modified’
This message was last edited by the player at 16:14, Tue 25 Apr 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 903 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 25 Apr 2023
at 17:00
  • msg #617

Re: OOC 3

One of my favorite characters was an Atlantean Undead Slayer.  He did some crazy things in combat.  Then again, I've played plenty of Crazies, too.  They are one of my favorite OCCs.
Runa
player, 374 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 13:10
  • msg #618

Re: OOC 3

It's been my experience that many players have been, for want of a better term, traumatized and brutalized by previous GMs. They all seem absolutely certain that if they make a character that doesn't naturally possess MDC, they will be subject to instant death the moment game play commences.

If I am running a high power game, this doesn't bother me overmuch. When I am running a low to medium power game though, this paranoia is frustrating to say the least. Not only do I have to explain in bold, underlined letters that making a SDC being won't be instant death or even long term death, I sometimes have to straightup forbid many OCC/RCCs...and still end up explaining that they can't live inside their armor.

Since this only happens with Rifts, I assume it has something to do with the MDC system. Personally, I think reducing the ratio from 100/1 to 10/1 would go a long ways to mitigating the issue while still keeping the spirit of MDC. Aside from logical concerns like, how the heck did any SDC animals survive in the face of so many MDC monsters and animals? And with out those animals, the entire ecosystem would quickly breakdown.
Chimp Man Z
player, 904 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 17:06
  • msg #619

Re: OOC 3

High rates or reproduction, natural survival skills, and 200+years to figure out what's what.
I had a GM that ran Rifts as an SDC system. 1:1 MDC to SDC, but explosives did 10x listed damage because he wanted everyone to be afraid of them.  Which, since I know how powerful hand grenades are in real life (most houses or apartments would not survive one, let alone multiple, detonation; especially if it was close to an exterior or interion structural support), I think should be the case even in MDC.
SSOGM
GM, 982 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 17:29
  • msg #620

Re: OOC 3

Any time I get to play Rifts, I deliberately choose to be an SDC character. If they're subject to instant death when the game starts I know I wouldn't enjoy it, anyway.
JUSTAR
player, 63 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 17:39
  • msg #621

Re: OOC 3

I like Cyberknights in RIFTs but they or sort of a pseudo-mega damage creature... they have an AR for their Cyberarmor.  I played an Elven Knight and a Human Paladin both from Palladium Fantasy world.  They were both normally SDC beings. I also made a Mind Melter  who are also SDC unless their TK FF {if they have that power} is up... but I never got to play him.

The Elven knight 'inherited' a Glitterboy powered armor... the player did something VERY stupid and got wacked outside his armor {don't remember what it was, but it was pretty boneheaded and stubborn.. megadamage death}... and no one else in the party could pilot PA... so the my elf did.

Someone almost started a Coalition-Based Game.. and was making a Psi-Ops Coalition gal... but it never got off the ground.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:41, Wed 26 Apr 2023.
REcycler
player, 9 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 21:31
  • msg #622

Re: OOC 3

First, I acknowledge your experience and skill with the RIFTS games!  Exciting

Second, I'm a newb -- I had a few books but no one wanted to play, and now it's 20 yrs later.
Hope that doesn't piss people off.

3rd -- I really appreciate the expression of 'being traumatized by GMs'.  I never acknowledged that could be possible, but I've played a ton of great games and had 2 experiences which were negative.

One was totally inappropriate in any scenario, so I'll skip that, but other was hilarious (and a bit sad):

I took my girlfriend to play a Cthulhu game with a group I'd never played with before, but I heard GM was good.

Girlfriend loves vampires and zombies, figured this could be great.

We sat at a table for 5+ hrs, and not one single monster or anything interesting happened!  Not sure if we even rolled any dice.  Just endless (unnecessary) backstory that went forever.

When it was over, girlfriend says, "OMG, roleplaying is the most boring thing ever!  I never want to do that again!"

I'm grateful that wasn't my first session or I might've agreed!

This message was last edited by the player at 21:33, Wed 26 Apr 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 588 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 22:32
  • msg #623

Re: OOC 3

I feel context on MDC origin is important. It started in Robotech. MDC was for stompy robots and those expected to fight them, and SDC was for everyone else. If they were crossing, something had gone wrong, or somebody messed up. Generally, the two rarely crossed.

This changed with Rifts. With Rifts, MDC wasn't an exceptional situation that occurred due to an in-universe miscalculation of terrible nature. It was now the way the business of war was done.
Runa
player, 376 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 22:35
  • msg #624

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
In reply to Runa (msg # 295):

Runa, this RP is not at the same time as the arrival of Recycler or Drifter... that is effectively two days after this Rp.

I've been waiting for you to reply here to Hikari's last post before continuing on.

Sorry Drifter this is before you arrived and is not insynch with the LESP Offices game thread or the LESP Radio thread.


I deleted my post. I won't post again until I'm told when and where to post to avoid another mistake.
Winter Herald
player, 589 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 23:00
  • msg #625

Re: OOC 3

Now, if you want that Robotech feel while playing Rifts, I'd probably point you to Savage Rifts. Thanks to the use of the Heavy rule (which they call MDC for reasons), you have situations where your armor will help against the big guns, but isn't absolute, and your guns do absolutely nothing unless they are MDC, which most infantry weapons are not.

Bear in mind, if you are familiar with Savage Worlds, you are going to see a game system pushed to its brink, and you might not like those high values you are going to witness. This is still Rifts, and a system change did not alter that. You'll like the magic, though - it's actually useful in combat!
SSOGM
GM, 985 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 26 Apr 2023
at 23:27
  • msg #626

Re: OOC 3

I considered the magic as ALWAYS useful in combat. Most spells should've been converted to MD, GM's that don't usually just want to play robotech. These are also the GM's that say, "you can't catch the whole megabot with a carpet of adhesion, it's only the size of one foot!"
This usually occurs just before I ask "so did I get the left or right?"
JUSTICAR
player, 1472 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 01:06
  • msg #627

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 624):

Sorry for the confusion Runa... its a game night for my tabletop group RIFTS game so... i'll post a fix in RP when I get home.
Winter Herald
player, 591 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 10:56
  • msg #628

Re: OOC 3

I am likely uniquely incapable of understanding REcycler, and that's likely only until I get sufficient voice samples and context to parse out what they are saying. It would likely be a flat roll with a low number, but eventually I'll gain at least a basic level of understanding.

For Justicar to be incapable of understanding them would mean that their mind has mutated to the point where it is no longer comprehensibly a mind, or at least not an organic mind as this world's psychic capabilities understand them. It... could be true. It just has some implications.
SSOGM
GM, 986 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 12:04
  • msg #629

Re: OOC 3

REcycler can speak English when the alien tries to.
JUSTAR
player, 67 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 13:45
  • msg #630

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 628):

My reply in RP was in regards to Drifters post...

Drifter:
Time: 2days After Meeting with Linvingstone at LESP HQ
Place: LESP HQ - Roof
Status: Open
Actors: Captain Justice, Justicar/Justar, Runa, Drifter.


... whatever private message was in his post.. it was gibberish to me.. and there was not other text to give any context to his post.  No description of any physical arrival to the roof.. just an private language text that I could not read.

I was waiting for anyone else to post in LESP Office to RECycler's post and arrival on the roof.. before having Justicar show up... I don't want to 'Run over' someone else getting involved.

Actually ~ Right Now... I'm going to let Captain Justice reply in the LESP Thread as he is there with Winter meeting RECycler, and I'll wait for Runa to post int he RP Thread to Drifter's sudden appearance.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:51, Thu 27 Apr 2023.
Runa
player, 377 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 13:49
  • msg #631

Re: OOC 3

So should I post again IC? And if so, which thread?
JUSTAR
player, 68 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 13:57
  • msg #632

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 631):

Justicar:
Actually ~ Right Now... I'm going to let Captain Justice reply in the LESP Thread as he is there with Winter meeting RECycler, and I'll wait for Runa to post int he RP Thread to Drifter's sudden appearance.


Re-read my post here... I just changed it somewhat realizing the confusing intro of two different characters at two different times in the story narrative.
You can post anywhere you want Runa.  I'm just holding on posting myself until others have had a chance to react to the new arrivals.

Hikari has been in Japan for the narrative of the past two days arriving at the LESP offices to meet RECycler's arrival.

But in RP Hikari was only planning to practice spar with Runa and Captain Justice for about two hours time because he has a flight to catch some four hours latter to fly to Japan. Drifter's sudden arrival will not change that... but complicates that thread's timing.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:58, Thu 27 Apr 2023.
Runa
player, 378 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 15:05
  • msg #633

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
In reply to Runa (msg # 631):

Justicar:
Actually ~ Right Now... I'm going to let Captain Justice reply in the LESP Thread as he is there with Winter meeting RECycler, and I'll wait for Runa to post int he RP Thread to Drifter's sudden appearance.


Re-read my post here... I just changed it somewhat realizing the confusing intro of two different characters at two different times in the story narrative.
You can post anywhere you want Runa.  I'm just holding on posting myself until others have had a chance to react to the new arrivals.

Hikari has been in Japan for the narrative of the past two days arriving at the LESP offices to meet RECycler's arrival.

But in RP Hikari was only planning to practice spar with Runa and Captain Justice for about two hours time because he has a flight to catch some four hours latter to fly to Japan. Drifter's sudden arrival will not change that... but complicates that thread's timing.

Yah no, I read that but since I was already told once I posted wrong, I'm waiting until explicitly told where and when to post. These multiple active threads, sometimes in different timelines, sometimes in the same timeline, is confusing. It doesn't help when some of the posts clock in at 1200+ words and ultimately have zero to do with anything or anyone but one or maybe two of the PCs and not the majority. Its a lot to try and sort out.

So I'll just wait to post IC until I know exactly which thread to post in and who is actually there at the same time as my character.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:03, Thu 27 Apr 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 987 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 17:47
  • msg #634

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTAR (msg # 630):

Oh, that was a spelling error. You should be able to read the message, now. Which should generate even MORE questions.

Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
For just a slight bit of clarity, Drifter is a Shifter.

JUSTAR
player, 69 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 19:46
  • msg #635

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 634):

Whatever Drifter posted in RP Msg 296# is unintelligible I cannot read what his private language message was.
SSOGM
GM, 988 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 27 Apr 2023
at 20:28
  • msg #636

Re: OOC 3

My mistake, again. I needed to update JUSTAR's group settings. Drifter is using LESP's standard radio channel. You'll find he even has a badge and ID.
JUSTAR
player, 73 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Fri 28 Apr 2023
at 12:18
  • msg #637

Re: OOC 3

I am holding off replying to REcycler.. to allow others there on the roof to speak some more.  Again, I do not want to 'run-over' other players in the situation and give other's a chance to interact first.
REcycler
player, 16 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Sun 30 Apr 2023
at 02:22
  • msg #638

Re: OOC 3

This is a fun way to meetup.  I just threw it in, GM might have had a simpler/smoother intro.  :)

Very rarely meet people IRL by them saying, "Hello I wanted to meet you and become your friend."
But kids seem to be able to do that!  Ha Ha

Anyway, hopefully we can spark off some mutual admiration and join up.

It's very challenging for me to write a character as "they", but it's a good learning experience.  Realized while rolling up the character that they would not likely have a gender, or if they did, it would be fluid (due to biology).

+Really appreciate everyone's frequent posting rate!!+

If anyone loves Villains & Vigilantes, I'm in a game that could use a few active posting players!  :)
This message was last edited by the player at 02:25, Sun 30 Apr 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1473 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Sun 30 Apr 2023
at 02:46
  • msg #639

Re: OOC 3

In reply to REcycler (msg # 638):

Yeah this is cool.  Kids are so innocently open to new relationships!  I'm waiting for others to reply... as you can see I tend to make detailed somewhat over-verbose posts.. so I'm trying not to overrun the narrative here to allow other players to interact as well.
Runa
player, 382 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 30 Apr 2023
at 03:47
  • msg #640

Re: OOC 3

In the LESP Office thread, time now, who all is there?

 Is Lilibeth or Runa supposed to be there?

 And is the time in that thread the current in game time? If so, how long until we need to be on our next mission?

And is our next mission still the person security detail for that senator or whatever?

 Lastly, has any part of the plan changed?
SSOGM
GM, 989 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 30 Apr 2023
at 05:38
  • msg #641

Re: OOC 3

Drifter is meeting everyone two days after the meeting with Livingstone in the Open RP thread,
Two days after Drifter's arrival REcycler arrives in the LESP Offices thread.
SSOGM
GM, 990 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 30 Apr 2023
at 05:41
  • msg #642

Re: OOC 3

The meeting which is the next detail for LESP is in two days from the time shown in LESP Offices thread.
REcycler
player, 17 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Tue 2 May 2023
at 00:20
  • msg #643

Re: OOC 3

So does anyone want to offer to either take Re-Sike-Lor for a drink or into the building?

Drink will be the more humorous ast they don't really blend in anywhere.
JUSTAR
player, 77 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 2 May 2023
at 15:02
  • msg #644

Re: OOC 3

Again... I want a more supportive role in the direction of play not be the director or initiator of things all the time... so I'll let others get involved with the Alien interaction.
Runa
player, 383 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 2 May 2023
at 18:39
  • msg #645

Re: OOC 3

I'd be happy to RP, just as soon as I figure out where and when Lilibeth is in the multiple time line threads and locations.

I am tracking that Lilibeth is with Justicar, Captain Justice and Drifter, on the LESP roof. What I don't know is if that scene is in the past with relation to the current scene, whenever and wherever that is taking place.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:45, Tue 02 May 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 991 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 2 May 2023
at 18:45
  • msg #646

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 645):

You should try it from this chair. Unless there's some specific reason for a character not to be at a specific timeline event, I won't say no to any RP that is desired. Remember, you still get to add 5 xp for each in character post and 25 xp for each skill use that is rolled (limited total to 55 xp per post).
Runa
player, 384 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 2 May 2023
at 18:48
  • msg #647

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
In reply to Runa (msg # 645):

You should try it from this chair. Unless there's some specific reason for a character not to be at a specific timeline event, I won't say no to any RP that is desired. Remember, you still get to add 5 xp for each in character post and 25 xp for each skill use that is rolled (limited total to 55 xp per post).

Frack it. I say Runa is in the scene in the LESP Office thread. Past, future, whatever, she will walk in there and join the conversation.

I've been skimming the posts there in am effort to not even accidentally use OOC info. From what I can tell though, that scene is taking place in Deteftuve Broyko's office? Is that correct?
SSOGM
GM, 992 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 2 May 2023
at 19:04
  • msg #648

Re: OOC 3

Yes, I tried to help.
Runa
player, 385 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 2 May 2023
at 19:10
  • msg #649

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Yes, I tried to help.

Thank you!!!
Chimp Man Z
player, 905 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 2 May 2023
at 20:23
  • msg #650

Re: OOC 3

Well, CMZ hasn't made his presence known yet either, so....
Winter Herald
player, 595 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 3 May 2023
at 12:30
  • msg #651

Re: OOC 3

I have a request for a house rule, and I don't know if anyone has brought it up before.

Normally, damage in Palladium has one effect - bringing someone down. Opponents seldom lose consciousness before zero HP, and at zero, they aren't merely unconscious. They are comatose and dying.

This might be attack dependent, but I was going to suggest a use for the "Pull Attack" move as a means of insuring that doesn't happen. I don't know if that is already a thing or not, or if something like that is already in effect by default. Basically, if you reduce someone to zero with Pulled Attacks, they are not dying or comatose. They are unconscious, but will recover.
SSOGM
GM, 993 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 3 May 2023
at 13:30
  • msg #652

Re: OOC 3

That's the part of the SDC/Hit Point system most people miss. There's a single phrase that sums it up
Heroes Unlimited Revised Second Edition, page 17:
Hit Point damage is serious and potentially life threatening.

Consider Phantasm, with 80 SDC and 42 hit points. Assuming he doesn't receive a "knock out" blow, he can go toe to toe with Ty Miaksen through his 80 SDC and recover as normal. As soon as he takes four hit points AT ANY TIME he suffers the following. These are cumulative, if Ty punches him twice after his SDC is gone he will get to roll here twice:
Heroes Unlimited Revised Second Edition, page 19:
None of these effects are permanent or life threatening. Minuses apply to that one limb (50% chance for right or left limb). Speed minuses affect the whole body. Remember, symptoms and penalties are cumulative;  roll each time the character suffers a fall, explosion, or more than 10% of Hit Points in damage from a single attack. Duration: Typically 1D4 days.
01-14 Minor bruises and lacerations; -2 on Spd and - 1 to dodge.
15-29 Severely bruised and battered muscles; -1D4 on Spd, -1 to P.P. and -3 to Spd.
30-44 Damaged (sprain, pulled, cut, etc.) arm or shoulder; -3 to P.P. and -2 to parry. Duration is 3D4 days.
45-59 Damaged leg or hip; Spd is 1/2 and -2 to dodge. Duration is 3D4 days.
60-74 Damaged hand and/or wrist; -1 to P.P., -2 to P.S., and cannot lift weights of more then 10 lbs (4.5 kg) with that hand. The character is -10% on all skills that require that hand.
75-89 Head Injury; -5% on all skills and -2 to Spd.
90-00 Damaged back or pelvis; - 1 to P.E., reduce attacks per melee round by one, and Spd by 50%. Furthermore, the character can not lift or carry more than 10 lbs (4.5 kg) without excruciating pain (double all penalties, due to pain, until weight is put down). Duration is 3D4 days.

I haven't had to use this, yet, for any of the heroes. But this is why the NPC's are down BEFORE they begin to bleed to death, and why heroes that get close to losing all their SDC need to consider retreat or surrender.
REcycler
player, 19 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Thu 4 May 2023
at 04:39
  • msg #653

Re: OOC 3

... or begin regenerating in a panic!!
Winter Herald
player, 596 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 4 May 2023
at 05:36
  • msg #654

Re: OOC 3

Well, yes. I'm aware of these rules, actually, and that was kind of my point. There is no space between "they are fully functional and probably homicidal" and "they are ready to be transported to the ICU."
SSOGM
GM, 994 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 5 May 2023
at 11:55
  • msg #655

Re: OOC 3

Correct. That space must be created by RP during the conflict.
Captain Justice
player, 52 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Sun 7 May 2023
at 21:10
  • msg #656

Re: OOC 3

Sorry that I have been quite. I have had a headcold for the pass few days and haven't felt like doing much of anything.
Winter Herald
player, 597 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 8 May 2023
at 09:58
  • msg #657

Re: OOC 3

Well, on an aside, been reading a webcomic called Terminal Lance in an effort to get the basic idea of what Winter Herald thinks of "military efficiency." Given that Terminal Lance is by an ex-grunt, for grunts, he's got opinions.
REcycler
player, 24 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Mon 8 May 2023
at 23:59
  • msg #658

Re: OOC 3

Just saw GotG3 at matinee on Sunday.  Enjoyed it.  Had some darkness to it, but also another funny adventure.
Chimp Man Z
player, 907 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 9 May 2023
at 01:36
  • msg #659

Re: OOC 3

It was a lot of fun when my kid sits through it to the end, it has to be good.
JUSTAR
player, 80 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 9 May 2023
at 04:48
  • msg #660

Re: OOC 3

In reply to REcycler (msg # 658):

As far as Sequels in franchises go.. GotG3 was in my opinion one of the BEST Sequels I have Ever seen in ANY franchise!  Plus the Movie was just plain Awesome! I loved it!  Definitely worth several viewings!
This message was last edited by the player at 04:48, Tue 09 May 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 908 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 9 May 2023
at 07:20
  • msg #661

Re: OOC 3

My wife bought a $50 snack tin with a figurine of Rocket attached to it.  And I couldn't get mad about it.
Runa
player, 391 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 9 May 2023
at 12:49
  • msg #662

Re: OOC 3

Good to heat that it didn't suck. I haven't had the chance to see it yet.
JUSTAR
player, 81 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 9 May 2023
at 13:15
  • msg #663

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 661):

Awwwwwe!  Cute... I understand completely! :)

Rocket 'Racoon' was the real star of the entire movie...!
Paragon
player, 65 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Tue 9 May 2023
at 14:09
  • msg #664

Re: OOC 3

after a brief stint in the hospital with double pneumonia, I have returned. Can someone briefly tell me what I've missed?
REcycler
player, 25 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Tue 9 May 2023
at 14:30
  • msg #665

Re: OOC 3

To Paragon,

A) congratulations, hope you have a speedy full recovery!
B) you missed my arrival.  REcycler/Re-Sike-Lor, alien defender of Earthlings (not just humans).

I'm new, so that's all I've got.
Winter Herald
player, 598 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 9 May 2023
at 14:55
  • msg #666

Re: OOC 3

Pretty much. Things have been slow. My in-character investigation has hit a wall as far as I can tell, and I don't think any of the scenes you were involved in moved much without you. So with the existing scenes, I think you can just drop in.
REcycler
player, 26 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:22
  • msg #667

Re: OOC 3

Come on down to LESP office,
prepare yourself to stop a nuke
... and meet an Alien!!!

(First Contact?)
Runa
player, 392 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 9 May 2023
at 19:30
  • msg #668

Re: OOC 3

REcycler:
Come on down to LESP office,
prepare yourself to stop a nuke
... and meet an Alien!!!

(First Contact?)

Don't forget about the dimension hopping sorcerer.

Now about the nuke...Lilibeth is still waiting on someone to answer her question about that.
JUSTAR
player, 82 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 9 May 2023
at 20:25
  • msg #669

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 668):

'Shrug' You should ask Winter Herald about the nuke thing... he was the one that brought it up I believe.
Winter Herald
player, 599 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 9 May 2023
at 20:27
  • msg #670

Re: OOC 3

That's an old case (or at least it feels that way due to real life time passage), but it relates to Major FORCE, and the fact that all evidence continues to suggest he still has a functional nuclear weapon in his possession. This was before Runa joined. The only reason Winter Herald hasn't answered your question is because he is not physically there - he's inside, typing away.
REcycler
player, 28 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Thu 11 May 2023
at 02:28
  • msg #671

Re: OOC 3

Thanks for that background info.

I assumed that a nuke threat meant "Emergency mission! Let's go!"
Ha Ha

Seems like it's more "oh, and yeah there's a lost nuke.  And what do you want for lunch?  Cool..."
JUSTICAR
player, 1475 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 11 May 2023
at 03:00
  • msg #672

Re: OOC 3

In reply to REcycler (msg # 671):

Not 'lost'... that would infer it was owned by the US military previously.. no. The International Terrorist Organization ~ FORCE... manufactured thier own nuclear device. And had enough extra to make a very likely nuclear self-destruct device for thier previous island training fascility that the Sentinels assaulted. We the Sentinels now have titular possession of.

Hikari has not had opportunity to reveal to the rest of the team... that he has swept and secured a new out of the US boarders extra-territorial HQ for the SENTINELS.

Right now... only Runa and Chimpman Z know about the status of the San Sebastian Isle facility.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:03, Thu 11 May 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 995 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 13 May 2023
at 19:52
  • msg #673

Re: OOC 3

GM's home network crashed, I'll be back in a couple of days.
Chimp Man Z
player, 910 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sat 13 May 2023
at 23:42
  • msg #674

Re: OOC 3

Well, that sucks
REcycler
player, 29 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Sun 14 May 2023
at 19:52
  • msg #675

Re: OOC 3

Bummer!  That cancels out my "happy mothers day" wish...

If you need some tech help, I've been a tech support guy for a few decades - rekzkarz@gmail.com
Runa
player, 394 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 21 May 2023
at 21:38
  • msg #676

Re: OOC 3

Still here, just haven't seen anything for Runa to respond to.

I think we are at the point where we just need to be given our taskings from Detective Broyko and then leave for the protection mission, right?
Winter Herald
player, 601 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 21 May 2023
at 22:25
  • msg #677

Re: OOC 3

You could ask Winter Herald for details on the case he is talking about. If time is timing along, he is about to interact with Spymaster. You could intercept him.
Runa
player, 395 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 21 May 2023
at 22:49
  • msg #678

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
You could ask Winter Herald for details on the case he is talking about. If time is timing along, he is about to interact with Spymaster. You could intercept him.

Is he in the Detective's office? I think that is the current time in game and that is where Lilibeth/Runa is. If so, she could ask him there as a sidebar conversation?
Winter Herald
player, 602 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 21 May 2023
at 23:03
  • msg #679

Re: OOC 3

Give or take. He had mostly found an unused desk and conscripted it to fill out his paperwork so he could get back to the wonderful business of waiting for email and text replies and new information to be fed into everything he's looking into - in essence, hurry up so he can wait.
Senor Garcia
player, 278 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 23 May 2023
at 06:28
  • msg #680

Re: OOC 3

Been bust the past few weeks with RL stuff, and haven't looked at the In Character threads yet...if a lot has passed maybe Senor Garcia has been laying the groundwork for the Eugenics Wars....


Just a bit of notes on the posts I have seen in this thread so far...

I have run my own Palladium games here on RPOL more on the deadly side (for example, bullets do half HP & SDC damage). Not because I want to murder player characters, but to make players think before doing, and to create some suspense in that you never know what may occur.

Winter Herald:
Well, on an aside, been reading a webcomic called Terminal Lance in an effort to get the basic idea of what Winter Herald thinks of "military efficiency." Given that Terminal Lance is by an ex-grunt, for grunts, he's got opinions.

I was a lance Corporal for two years...and as an AAV crewman/crew chief I was one rung up or down the ladder from a 'USMC Grunt' depending on ones perspective.

All that said Terminal Lance is a very good comic in that it showcases the absolute fuckery that can occur when you are in a USMC combat arms MOS (Grunts, Armor, Artillery, Engineers).

But if you really want to know about contemporary military efficiency watch 'Generation Kill'.
Chimp Man Z
player, 914 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 23 May 2023
at 07:30
  • msg #681

Re: OOC 3

Or, you can watch Vet TV for an idea of what it's really like to ve in the military.
JUSTAR
player, 86 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 24 May 2023
at 03:45
  • msg #682

Re: OOC 3

Uhm.. who is in the office with Detective Broyko and Drifter?

Det. Broyko's reaction to being scanned by Drifter's K9 is suspect.
Chimp Man Z
player, 916 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 24 May 2023
at 03:53
  • msg #683

Re: OOC 3

I don't believe there is a K9.  Jacob is with the detective, dropped of his statement/accident report.
SSOGM
GM, 997 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 31 May 2023
at 19:19
  • msg #684

Re: OOC 3

There's not a K9 yet, but you never know what could happen.
JUSTICAR
player, 1476 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Wed 31 May 2023
at 19:22
  • msg #685

Re: OOC 3

Sorry, I got confused.  Was wondering myself how suddenly K9 appeared when 'Drifter' specificslly said he did not have his robot companion?  I got.confused with his posted wording. Now I see my misunderstanding.

Carry on.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:23, Wed 31 May 2023.
Runa
player, 398 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 2 Jun 2023
at 19:56
  • msg #686

Re: OOC 3

It's been so long since it was talked about IC, I've forgotten what Lilibeth's cosplay is supposed to be. I think it was Cammy from Street Fighter but I could be wrong. Does anyone remember?
Winter Herald
player, 608 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 2 Jun 2023
at 20:21
  • msg #687

Re: OOC 3

Sounds about right. In my case, I chose an identity suggested by Chimp Man Z and the GM.
JUSTAR
player, 94 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Fri 2 Jun 2023
at 21:11
  • msg #688

Re: OOC 3

Yup Cammie from Street Fighter...!

Justicar:
Lilibeth "Cammie" CosPlay Costume - Sentinel MKII, Total WT: 18lbs Total Cost 'To Hikari': $17,900 ea
1. Light Armor – Point Blank Vest ‘Bodysuit’ = AR10, SDC 70 {14lbs} [$1,100]
- Climbing Kit Harness & Attachment Hooks = An builtin harness with clamps {Harness-Only} [suitable for Attach to other Climbing harness - load bearing] - w/Quick Release Belt Trigger [$50.00]
2. 'Miniaturized' Night-Sight {2x Monocular Eyepiece} = Passive Night Vision Optics 1,600'ft [$4,800]
3. 'Miniaturized' Infrared Optic System {Goggles 'Superior'} = Infrared 1,200'ft [$880]
4. 'Miniaturized' Gas Mask [$50]
5. Motorola MR350R: By coordinating channel and privacy code, clear and secure radio communications are available. These things can also operate hands-free and supports an added earpiece and microphone. = Range: 35mile Transmissions, Power: 48hrs?, {0.5lb}
6. Ear Mike Radio Receiver and Transmitter: It is so effective that the user can transmit a whisper. Compatible with any portable, two-way radio equipped with an external speaker/microphone
Wt: 6 ounces (170 grams), Power source: 1.5 volt AA battery, Range: 1mile (1.6 km), [$700.00]
7. Mini-Telephoto Document Camera: A tiny, easy to conceal camera, only a little bigger than a disposable lighter. [$350]
Note: Conventional video systems, cameras, lenses, optics and audio recorders, are also effective tools for surveillance
8. Pocket Vibration - Bug Detector: [$700.00]
9. Compass-Impact Resistant [$50]
10. Tracer Bug: This is a tiny device, about the size of a checker Range: 8miles (13 km) away, Battery powered: limited life of 72 hours of constant transmission
- Modified 'Button' clothing clamp, Normally NOT turned ON {must be turned on} [$340.00]
- NOTE: All the above devices are integrated for Hands-free use
- All systems are removable as desired {Modular construction}
11. First Aid Kit {1lb} [$50]
12. 2x Atropine Injectors 'Nerve Gas-Antidote' [$800]
13. Swiss Army Knife/Pocket Tool [?$50.00]
14. Pack of Zip-Tie Restraints {10}
15. Small Roll of Duct Tape
16. {2x} Bracers - Brass Knuckles/Slap Glove = 1D6+2+PS{+Stun Blast}
- << Wired to Wrist Stun Gun 'Blaster' >> {On Punch}
2x {2x} Stun Gun ’Blaster’ {L&R Bracer} = Ra: 100’ft, Dam: Special [Victims are dazed, - 10 to strike, parry and dodge, for 2D4 melees – Save Vs Toxin], RoF: 5/melee, charges: 10 WP: Energy Pistol {1lbs ea [2lbs]}, [$8,000 + $2,000 E-Clip];
17. 3x Hand Grenades{0.2lbs/ea [0.6lbs]}
- Stun/Flash {CoCW, p.32} = Blast: 10’ft radius, Effect: —8 ST/PY/DG, -1 Intv, -1 AT, Dur: 1D4 melee
- Tear Gas = {HU 2e, p. 207} Effects: -10 ST/PY/DG, Dur: 4D6Mel.  Saving Throw: None, $40/ea. [$160]
- {HU 2e, p.341} Effects: -6 to strike, parry, dodge, and lose initiative. Effects are immediate. Saving Throw: None ~ Not sure which is valid stats
- Smoke {HU 2e, p.341} = Blast: 20'ft radius, Effects: {-8 ST/PY/DG, shooting wild-only ‘Aimed shots or controlled bursts are impossible’}, Color: Grey, $40ea. [$120]</aqua>

Winter Herald
player, 609 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 00:07
  • msg #689

Re: OOC 3

I'll be surprised in and out of character if the Atemi actually works, but I'm not sure about the specifics of Chi Invisibility. If it is Art of Vanishing, that might actually work, especially since I have to actively have radar on and I normally do not. If it is Art of Mystic Invisibility, probably not.

Still worth a science, though.
Spymaster
player, 43 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 00:14
  • msg #690

Re: OOC 3

Art of Mystic Invisibility, but both are still worth a test. The Atemi can actually work if you still feel, which is the book's justification for vs. invulerables, while the art of mystic invisibilty makes no mention of any negatives versus artifical beings, and superspys does feature full conversion cyborgs, and the book actually mentions that other vision modes as well as chi sensing don't work once it kicks in, but since you only become invisible, radar and alternate senses should still work.
SSOGM
GM, 1000 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 01:43
  • msg #691

Re: OOC 3

Just to be clear, Winter Herald is, himself, invisible to a master's chi awareness as he has no chi. His tactile senses aren't organic and therefore don't operate by the same principles.
So, that stuff won't work on robots.
REcycler
player, 35 posts
Kler Pako Nga Click
Hear, "I'm a Protector."
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 03:32
  • msg #692

Re: OOC 3

Shouldn't work on Re-Sike-Lor exactly, bc they sense with vibration and telepathy, but y'never know it could work.  :)
Runa
player, 399 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 03:44
  • msg #693

Re: OOC 3

I'll have a post up in the center thread tonight.

EDIT:
ARGH! I had it all typed it but it didn't save! I'll type it again tomorrow morning
This message was last edited by the player at 05:58, Sat 03 June 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 612 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 07:09
  • msg #694

Re: OOC 3

Figured on the results, but it was worth testing.

The only reason Harry Frost isn't taking a stun weapon is because it is an Energy Pistol. He is not proficient with those, and dislikes firing a weapon he is uncertain about his accuracy with.
JUSTAR
player, 96 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sat 3 Jun 2023
at 10:46
  • msg #695

Re: OOC 3

Hikari is not proficient in Energy Pistol or Energy Rifle either. His attacks with the Stun Gun Blaster are straight up rolls.  He will be proficient at his next level of skills acquisition.
JUSTAR
player, 99 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 15:49
  • msg #696

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 683):

Hey, Chimpman Z can you 'See' the "Notice: Municipal Convention Center" thread we have all been posting in  besides you?  You've not posted even once there...
Chimp Man Z
player, 919 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 19:34
  • msg #697

Re: OOC 3

Sorry.  Been busy the past few days.  Really not entirely sure what the plan is any more.
Winter Herald
player, 615 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 21:01
  • msg #698

Re: OOC 3

The current plan is as follows:

REcycler, Drifter, Justar, and yourself cover known entrances.
Runa and Captain Justice take the convention floor.
Garcia, Spymaster, Paragon, and myself take the political floor.
Chimp Man Z
player, 920 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 6 Jun 2023
at 23:24
  • msg #699

Re: OOC 3

Ah, but CMZ has a booth and photo ops scheduled....
JUSTAR
player, 100 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 00:00
  • msg #700

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 699):

So swap out every 10 minutes with Captain Justice or Runa...  not like we mutants are wanted or expected to contribute.  We've been relegated to backup out of the way guard duty; any beat cop could do what we've been assigned to do.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 00:01, Wed 07 June 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 282 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 00:08
  • msg #701

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
The current plan is as follows:

REcycler, Drifter, Justar, and yourself cover known entrances.
Runa and Captain Justice take the convention floor.
Garcia, Spymaster, Paragon, and myself take the political floor.


Senor Garcia is also going to head to the airport with Agent Livingston to meet the Senator. IIRC the motorcade is going to a hotel first so the Senator can 'freshen' up.

If at some point the motorcade or hotel is attacked I can (hopefully) get a radio call out. If not, I guess Senor Garcia will die fighting...which is better than dying of cancer.
JUSTAR
player, 101 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 01:17
  • msg #702

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 701):

Well if such an attack happens en-route... if you do get a radio message out, Justar, Captain Justice, Runa and Winter Herald are fast enough to possibly be able to either fly or run there quick enough to help... maybe.  Maybe even bring some of our slower teammates along to help.  Not sure about Drifter or Recycler's movement powers...

Hmmm... I think Hikari may need to put some design effort into a robotic 'auto-pilot' Armored Flying Van for rapid deployment of non-flying team members.  200mph should be fast enough.  Add in some auxiliary 'user-friendly' manual controls.  Not for long-distance travel but rapid citywide travel, something that can't get "caught" in traffic snarls.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:28, Wed 07 June 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 283 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 7 Jun 2023
at 01:38
  • msg #703

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 701):

Well if such an attack happens en-route... if you do get a radio message out, Justar, Captain Justice, Runa and Winter Herald are fast enough to possibly be able to either fly or run there quick enough to help... maybe.  Maybe even bring some of our slower teammates along to help.  Not sure about Drifter or Recycler's movement powers...


No worries if the dice deities do not roll in my favor and it's Senor Garcia time to die, then I guess it's his time to die.
Runa
player, 405 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 17:38
  • msg #704

Re: OOC 3

Question, the healing touch power also repairs damaged objects. How much did Runa repair the android senator?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:38, Sun 11 June 2023.
JUSTAR
player, 106 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 17:41
  • msg #705

Re: OOC 3

Gah!!! He's an android?!?

That likely means he's a FORCE infiltrator drone... or worse it IS the Senator as a  transferred intelligence sellout immortal android traitor working for FORCE!
This message was last edited by the player at 17:50, Sun 11 June 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 1003 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 19:12
  • msg #706

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 704):

Damage was repaired, the senator will soon be ambulatory... among other things.
Runa
player, 406 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 19:35
  • msg #707

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
In reply to Runa (msg # 704):

Damage was repaired, the senator will soon be ambulatory... among other things.

Please tell me I didn't heal an enemy in combat...again
JUSTAR
player, 108 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 19:42
  • msg #708

Re: OOC 3

Please warn Hikari before the android can act... lol! :) {This is my teasing tone}
Winter Herald
player, 618 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 19:50
  • msg #709

Re: OOC 3

Well, let's see - now that he is revealed, the android will likely engage in several processes.

1) Remove subject. In this case, too many targets, and known to be hardened to begin with. They cannot be quickly killed.
2) Evasion. Avoid incarceration, and return to predesignated fallback point. Lacking one, select a target that allows concealment and survival. Depending on inclination, this might be easy or very hard.
3) Self-destruction. If the agents are not optimistic, they will often have a cyanide pill in a fake tooth allowing them to kill themselves quickly. This would take the form of something that could kill an android. We will likely see this soon.
4) Resistance and escape. Self-destruction has somehow failed, and identity is revealed, but protocols are unfinished. As an AI, the actions taken are likely to be linear and quite direct, lacking imagination but demonstrating resourcefulness - for example, locating liquid metal and throwing oneself into it, or in the path of a steam roller. The Three Laws apply selectively to machines willing to kill, and strangely for espionage ones.

Bear in mind, there could be a subgoal in there of unknown priority.

X) If discovered, role becomes high-profile assassin/saboteur. Engage predesignated target or targets. All other priorities rescinded until goal is accomplished.

This would mean that it whips out a bunch of hidden guns and goes full psychobot on us.

...so, yes. You probably healed an enemy. That might not be a bad thing. All outcomes of this can benefit us.
JUSTAR
player, 109 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 22:24
  • msg #710

Re: OOC 3

Will reply to you soon Captain Justice, but in short you are correct about Hikari allowing the Secret Service and Sentinels to at least access the drone telemetry.  There is effectively an open wireless connection that will allow you to monitor from your Mark II Sential Costume HUD the drone's telemetry but not actually send any data back other than radio communications.  Hikari is not running the drone K# his sophant AI int he Justicar-Polymoer is piloting the drones they have VERY simple robot brains.

TL;DR version.. yes you can access the drone's telemetry to see the targets Hikari painted.

I'm waiting on a reply from Runa before Hikari acts he would like to know if the Senator lives or if he needs to be rushed to an emergency room.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:25, Sun 11 June 2023.
Runa
player, 407 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 11 Jun 2023
at 23:29
  • msg #711

Re: OOC 3

As soon ad Runa knows what is the result of her actions, she will probably announce them. ^_^
SSOGM
GM, 1004 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 02:54
  • msg #712

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
SSOGM:
In reply to Runa (msg # 704):

Damage was repaired, the senator will soon be ambulatory... among other things.

Please tell me I didn't heal an enemy in combat...again


Ummm. No... as in 'no, I can't tell you that'.
Chimp Man Z
player, 923 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 12 Jun 2023
at 06:39
  • msg #713

Re: OOC 3

Man, I don't check over the weekend because of... busy, and shit happens!
JUSTAR
player, 110 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 11:15
  • msg #714

Re: OOC 3

Still waiting for a reply from Runa...

JUSTAR:
Justar will regard Runa his expression somber, asking,"...will he live? Could you save him Priestess?"

This message was last edited by the player at 11:16, Tue 13 June 2023.
Runa
player, 408 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 17:34
  • msg #715

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
Still waiting for a reply from Runa...

JUSTAR:
Justar will regard Runa his expression somber, asking,"...will he live? Could you save him Priestess?"

Still waiting on GM to tell me the results of her actions.
Paragon
player, 75 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 19:09
  • msg #716

Re: OOC 3

GM
[Private to GM: Thanks. I missed that. I'll go with what you said. ]
SSOGM
GM, 1006 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 14 Jun 2023
at 00:47
  • msg #717

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 715):

I'm allowing everyone a post before the next maneuver by both the assassin and the senator. We're just getting started, you know. The dignitaries haven't started trampling each other yet.
JUSTAR
player, 111 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 14 Jun 2023
at 01:39
  • msg #718

Re: OOC 3

I do not know what Runa's not finding out from you GM.. can Hikari just make his own First Aid [67%] check?

SSOGM:
In reply to Runa (msg # 715):

...The dignitaries haven't started trampling each other yet.


Justar could static cling the Assassin clothing in an area effect and hit him and a few others and stop him from running {it's an Area effect ~ good luck dodging it as its not really an attack roll thing}... but he specifically refrained from doing that Precisely cause it would get those that could not move likely trampled by said mob.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:47, Wed 14 June 2023.
Runa
player, 409 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 14 Jun 2023
at 06:44
  • msg #719

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
In reply to Runa (msg # 715):

I'm allowing everyone a post before the next maneuver by both the assassin and the senator. We're just getting started, you know. The dignitaries haven't started trampling each other yet.

I wasn't complaining or trying to get you to post faster. I was just letting Justicar know I had seen his post and wasn't ignoring him.
JUSTAR
player, 112 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 14 Jun 2023
at 07:19
  • msg #720

Re: OOC 3

Let me clarify something.  I'm NOT looking for an excuse for Hikari to attack the Senator ...EVEN if he actually IS a FORCE Infiltration turncoat Android.  But Hikari has ... quite unintentionally given the Android a weapon to use against the party... he can forestall that... but he must know its an Android first!
This message was last edited by the player at 07:21, Wed 14 June 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 620 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 14 Jun 2023
at 07:47
  • msg #721

Re: OOC 3

Hopefully, the fact I cannot be trampled will make a stall point.

EDIT: I move as fast as the crowd, but even if they catch me off balance and knock me down, I'll get up, and attempts to brute force me aside are unlikely to yield results that will not feel like running into a metal wall, and getting an icy gaze from "Harold Frost."
This message was last edited by the player at 08:40, Wed 14 June 2023.
Runa
player, 410 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 15:58
  • msg #722

Re: OOC 3

I'll wait to post until everyone ahead of me on initiative does.
Winter Herald
player, 623 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 22 Jun 2023
at 05:26
  • msg #723

Re: OOC 3

Messed up a message intended for radio. Fixed now.

EDITED: The message is the same. The change is that it is now marked for radio.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:27, Thu 22 June 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 929 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 28 Jun 2023
at 06:38
  • msg #724

Re: OOC 3

I have used Hero Forge to create figures of CMZ, before and after the nuke.  I only have the pictures, not the actual figures.  Though, I may one day order them.
CMZ before:
https://www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D41027842/
CMZ after:
https://www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D41029546/
[Private to JUSTAR: And just so Hikaru understands why he does not normally wear the unitard: https://www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D41029844/]
JUSTICAR
player, 1477 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Wed 28 Jun 2023
at 07:26
  • msg #725

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 724):

LOLS! Awesome stuff!  Made color copies of the pics!  Personally, think they're ALL BAD-ASS!!!
[Private to Chimp Man Z:
Chimp Man Z


Chimp Man Z - After the Bomb


Chimp Man Z - AtB 'Unitard'


...I won't post them for everyone else to see if you don't want.
]
This message was last edited by the player at 07:27, Wed 28 June 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 625 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 29 Jun 2023
at 03:39
  • msg #726

Re: OOC 3

Well, CMZ - Kurt just pulled a translator on you while you were trying to arrest him.
Runa
player, 415 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 17:07
  • msg #727

Re: OOC 3

Question; are both the android senator and the assassin now at the LESP office via portal?

Last I was tracking, Justicar had asked Captain Justice and Runa to move the android to the stage.
Winter Herald
player, 628 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 30 Jun 2023
at 17:50
  • msg #728

Re: OOC 3

So close to leveling. It's a patient process. Not all sessions give me opportunity to do a great deal, and in this case, my role was literally "keep a low profile and observe." I might have went beyond duty attempting crowd control, and even that was limited to verbal strictly.

So, not a lot of dynamic play on my end.

And as far as I can tell, I think all parties are going to be heading back to the LESP when they have a good chance.
Spymaster
player, 53 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 01:39
  • msg #729

Re: OOC 3

Yes, I asked/ordered Drifter to take Von Metz to LESP, expecting a Jack Ruby situation, and Justice also tagged along with the senator. As it stands I think the current line up is Spymaster, Garcia, Paragon, Runa, Herald, and Broyko still at the fundraiser, while Z, Justar, Drifter, Justice, Herr Von Metz, and Bennett droid are at HQ. We'll probably wrap up playing nice with the Secret Service, then back to HQ, or a bar scene should the team need to unwind.

Though there was a hook for Runa, Justice, and Z no one took, with Von Metz's translator being the one the person from Ultimate Costumes used. Spymaster wouldn't know this, even though his original intent was to scope out the con with Runa, he spent the lead up checking the fundraiser hall for tricks, but you 3 would have definitely worked the convention, and now Runa is the only one that could follow it up, as Justice and Z are both back home.
Runa
player, 416 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 02:15
  • msg #730

Re: OOC 3

Spymaster:
Yes, I asked/ordered Drifter to take Von Metz to LESP, expecting a Jack Ruby situation, and Justice also tagged along with the senator. As it stands I think the current line up is Spymaster, Garcia, Paragon, Runa, Herald, and Broyko still at the fundraiser, while Z, Justar, Drifter, Justice, Herr Von Metz, and Bennett droid are at HQ. We'll probably wrap up playing nice with the Secret Service, then back to HQ, or a bar scene should the team need to unwind.

Though there was a hook for Runa, Justice, and Z no one took, with Von Metz's translator being the one the person from Ultimate Costumes used. Spymaster wouldn't know this, even though his original intent was to scope out the con with Runa, he spent the lead up checking the fundraiser hall for tricks, but you 3 would have definitely worked the convention, and now Runa is the only one that could follow it up, as Justice and Z are both back home.

For Runa to follow what up?
Runa
player, 417 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 04:54
  • msg #731

Re: OOC 3

Reread things, so if I understand your cryptic comment, you are suggesting that we need to investigate Ultimate Costumes? Is that correct?

I read that and immediately dismissed it as a place of interest due to this line "Kirk Von Metz pulls a translator, a standard commercial device often sold in airports,..."

So it's a common device, not something unique enough to give any useful information. I relegated it to the same category as prepaid phone bought from a quickie mart.

I suppose you can make a case out of why he bought it from that stall in the con, rather than at the airport but that can easily be explained by him simply forgetting or he bought one from the airport and it malfunctioned. In either event, he would quickly need a replacement, he saw it at that stall and bought it. Lucky him.

If someone were to suggest to Runa to go check out that place, she would do so but otherwise, no, she has no particular reason to go there. Lilibeth on the other hand would go there just because it's another vendor at the con and she wants to have her fun exploring and buying cool stuff. At the moment though, she isn't in the driver seat, it's Runa and she doesn't see any reason to go there. Give her a reason and she'll go.
JUSTAR
player, 126 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 05:00
  • msg #732

Re: OOC 3

Runa 'could' get on the LESP Radio channel and ask if there was something the team might suggest she do to further the investigation of Kirk Von Metz or the Android-Senator?
This message was last edited by the player at 05:01, Sat 01 July 2023.
Spymaster
player, 54 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 15:39
  • msg #733

Re: OOC 3

I actually figure the likely scenario is that the vendor from Ultimate Costumes was Von Metz. He's a master of disguise, and it would give him an easy way to smuggle his gear in. Though if it's not something Runa would chase, and wouldn't have known about it in character, then it's probably better to leave it by the way side.
JUSTAR
player, 127 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 16:03
  • msg #734

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Spymaster (msg # 733):

Nothing keeps Spymaster from bringing it up and suggesting it across the LESP channel?  One of us Sentinels could take up the Comic Convention investigation.  Hikari would love to do it... but he really thinks he should get on analysis of the Senator Android before it  ~ vanishes, self-destructs or reactivates and starts acting again...

Hikari has  currently three ideas about how he might detect androids in the field... the trick will be testing it and getting all three options into a portable hand-held scanner...
This message was last edited by the player at 16:04, Sat 01 July 2023.
JUSTICAR
player, 1478 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 6 Jul 2023
at 22:46
  • msg #735

Re: OOC 3

Hope everyone had a nice july 4th holiday!
SSOGM
GM, 1017 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 7 Jul 2023
at 00:12
  • msg #736

Re: OOC 3

Just so it's clear, the little hook about the translator device is so someone can figure out how Von Metz managed to get the guns through security. It isn't terribly important.
Runa
player, 419 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 7 Jul 2023
at 00:37
  • msg #737

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Just so it's clear, the little hook about the translator device is so someone can figure out how Von Metz managed to get the guns through security. It isn't terribly important.

Good to know, thanks for the heads up.

Lilibeth will be happy to follow up on that, she is just waiting for the all clear.

[Private to GM: I haven't forgotten about the goal of revealing Runa is the real personality. There just hasn't been much opportunity to have that happen, aside from a few vague hints. Well not without writing a 2000+ word mini novel of mostly internal dialog between her two personalities. Something which would probably be intensely boring for the others to read through, no matter how well written it was. ^_^ ]
SSOGM
GM, 1018 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 7 Jul 2023
at 03:38
  • msg #738

Re: OOC 3

When Lilibeth (or anyone else) DOES follow up on that, the only two assets available will be CCTV footage of the event itself and a list of attendees that can be tracked down and interviewed.
Investigating any other aspects of the case is possible through any other assets previously mentioned.
Rather than play out these interviews and after the fact video surveillance, those that intend to investigate can choose the skills to use and make skill rolls while PMing the GM with the fact that they're doing so. The GM will return a PM with the information they gather and the player can then RP the discovery of that information. I want to try this as the standard method for investigatory skill use from here on. I think it might streamline the RP a bit, so I'm testing it here.
Winter Herald
player, 630 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 7 Jul 2023
at 16:22
  • msg #739

Re: OOC 3

And myself, living recording device. There could be details my character noticed that they did not feel was important in the moment. Could save time if lucky.
Runa
player, 420 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 7 Jul 2023
at 16:46
  • msg #740

Re: OOC 3

I'll make what rolls I have skills for and a short RP post, later today. Eager to see how this approach speeds things up
Winter Herald
player, 642 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 09:51
  • msg #741

Re: OOC 3

I actually did have the sense to roll to see if I could find it on the Internet first. Bear in mind, I am aware that public sites regarding corporations tend to be... how do I say this politely? Dated. They tend to be dated.
SSOGM
GM, 1024 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 12:55
  • msg #742

Re: OOC 3

Successful research into Synthetic Technologies™ gives the address in Timber Hook, a small town seventy miles from Flagstaff, Arizona. It's indicated the firm is purely research and development, with many sensitive government contracts. Telephone, and email, are listed as points of contact. Using some sort of maps thing shows:

JUSTICAR
player, 1496 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 13:28
  • msg #743

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 742):

...So let me guess, the place is overrun with demons researching an 'original' Syn?  Kinky... there might be a market for that!  :)
Drifter
player, 42 posts
How may I be of service?
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 21:49
  • msg #744

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 742):

déjà vu or what?

Well it was bound to happen sooner or later. Drifter just hopes that the Amulet has been lost within the different realities.  Naturally He will keep an eye out for its re-emergence.
JUSTICAR
player, 1497 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 14:54
  • msg #745

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Drifter (msg # 744):

Yes, likely... I know SSOGM likes his old V&V material and clearly that is a map/pic taken from a V&V supplement of some sort.. which I'm being a Very good boy and Not searching all my V&V material to find as I have ALL the V&V modules in PDF! lol!
SSOGM
GM, 1025 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 17:25
  • msg #746

Re: OOC 3

Drifter is part of what makes this fun for me. He's in another game, different system, character as close to the same as possible, running through the same modules. Trying to keep the two settings similar but not the same is a real exercise in world building.
Winter Herald
player, 643 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 20 Jul 2023
at 01:29
  • msg #747

Re: OOC 3

Well, I'm out of commission until needed or requested.
Runa
player, 428 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 20 Jul 2023
at 02:14
  • msg #748

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Drifter is part of what makes this fun for me. He's in another game, different system, character as close to the same as possible, running through the same modules. Trying to keep the two settings similar but not the same is a real exercise in world building.

Speaking of Drifter...just waiting on him to respond to Lilibeth.
Runa
player, 430 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 20 Jul 2023
at 22:56
  • msg #749

Re: OOC 3

Is it the same in game time at the convention center and the LESP office? I'm asking because Drifter is actively posting in both.

I'm guessing they are in different times, with the current office scene happening after the convention center. If that is the case, someone please confirm so I can have Lilibeth or Runa participate in the LESP Office thread.
SSOGM
GM, 1028 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 01:54
  • msg #750

Re: OOC 3

Yes, the LESP office scene is after everyone left the convention center.
Runa
player, 432 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 01:59
  • msg #751

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Yes, the LESP office scene is after everyone left the convention center.

K. Thanks for letting me know. I've only been skimming that scene since I didn't want to even inadvertently use OOC knowledge. Can't use what you don't know. ^_^

From skimming it, I got these highlites:
Moral arguments for and against disassembling the senator

Is the senator an android or transferred intelligence  (more arguing)

Is it FORCE or not

Another moral argument over building a android detector

Winter storming off

Spymaster storming off

Justicar staying and building the detector anyways.

Somewhere in there CMZ showed up.

Is that the gist of it?
Chimp Man Z
player, 937 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 02:57
  • msg #752

Re: OOC 3

Jacob was there the whole time.  I just got lost with all the other posting, so I did a couple of small ones where seemed appropriate.  *Shrugs*  Unfortunately, he was not able to get his point across to Hikari.  His point was more about HIPA.
Senor Garcia
player, 296 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 05:15
  • msg #753

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 751):

Don't forget that Señor Garcia is interrogating the assassin.
Winter Herald
player, 644 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 08:07
  • msg #754

Re: OOC 3

I didn't storm off, actually. I decided that I'd would be better applied learning what I can about the base within a single day time window, because that is my skill set. I'll give the report to Broyko, and he'll give it to everyone else.
Runa
player, 433 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 12:29
  • msg #755

Re: OOC 3

I did say skim. So no storming off. ^_^
SSOGM
GM, 1029 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 01:32
  • msg #756

Re: OOC 3

Apologies for semi-ghosting, GM had hardware issues related to heat wave.
Runa
player, 434 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 01:58
  • msg #757

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Apologies for semi-ghosting, GM had hardware issues related to heat wave.

No worries, I'm still waiting on Drifter to reply.
Drifter
player, 46 posts
How may I be of service?
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 07:01
  • msg #758

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 757):

reply! :)
Runa
player, 435 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 13:55
  • msg #759

Re: OOC 3

Drifter:
In reply to Runa (msg # 757):

reply! :)

Are you sure? The last post is still mine.
JUSTICAR
player, 1503 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 13:56
  • msg #760

Re: OOC 3

I don't see any new post either..was wondering about that too. Maybe the internet ate your reply?
Drifter
player, 47 posts
How may I be of service?
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 18:34
  • msg #761

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 759):

oh no! I was trying to crack a joke... guess it failed miserably :(
Runa
player, 436 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 19:42
  • msg #762

Re: OOC 3

Drifter:
In reply to Runa (msg # 759):

oh no! I was trying to crack a joke... guess it failed miserably :(

Oh. OK that makes more sense now. Opps. ^_^
Runa
player, 437 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 31 Jul 2023
at 18:44
  • msg #763

Re: OOC 3

Totally going to post today, just really busy with back to school stuff. No one ever told me as the parent I would have to sit through a four hour class at my oldest's new middle school.
Chimp Man Z
player, 939 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 31 Jul 2023
at 19:52
  • msg #764

Re: OOC 3

Jeez.  I remember those days.  Luckily, I'm going to be dealing with one final freshman highschool orientation.
JUSTAR
player, 129 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 00:08
  • msg #765

Re: OOC 3

Justar is less than 1,000 xp from level 4 mutant.
Runa
player, 439 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 00:52
  • msg #766

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
Justar is less than 1,000 xp from level 4 mutant.

Good for Justar! Hopefully you reach it soon.
JUSTAR
player, 130 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 01:42
  • msg #767

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 766):

Thx. Fortunately he doesn't get any more mutant powers until 6th level, though his blast damage increases which is frightening already.  He does get a little faster in flight.
Runa
player, 440 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 5 Aug 2023
at 16:33
  • msg #768

Re: OOC 3

Is the team already at the next location? Or just Winter?

Last thing I was tracking was we were assembling at the LESP office. I posted there but no one acknowledged Runa.
JUSTICAR
player, 1507 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Sat 5 Aug 2023
at 16:42
  • msg #769

Re: OOC 3

Winter is in Arizona on-site.  Justicar is waiting for everyone to come to the marina and board the aircraft for quick transport to the locale.  The party could use 'public transport' but it would likely be a 3 to 4 hour flight and some would have to deal with weapons transport.  Military transport might be faster and less concerned about weapons possession... but some don't want those kind of entanglements.  Justicar can get the party there in if wanted a little less than a hour or less if speed was important, which it is not really.

But in-truth How we get there and How Fast is mostly irrelevant for a clue finding investigation.  The party is quite welcome to find their own way there and Hikari will just go himself and get a head start on the fact finding... it really doesn't matter to me.  But having the entire party there at the same time would be more conducive to coordinating our fact finding.  So Justicar is offering to transport everyone.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:42, Sat 05 Aug 2023.
Runa
player, 441 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 5 Aug 2023
at 16:58
  • msg #770

Re: OOC 3

Runa hasn't been around the office since the team left for the convention center mission. She has no clue what we are being summoned for. Thats why when she arrived, and went to Broyko's office, she asked what was going on. All she knows is the radio message from Justar telling everyone he is ready to fly them somewhere.
Runa
player, 442 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 10 Aug 2023
at 12:22
  • msg #771

Re: OOC 3

Drifter:
were have all the hero bases go? far ago in a reality far far far far far away


I'm still waiting for Drifter to reply to Lilibeth in the convention center thread.
JUSTAR
player, 133 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 16 Aug 2023
at 17:27
  • msg #772

Re: OOC 3

Sorry for the delay in replying in RP SSOGM... been spinning up my Mekton/Cyberpunk game and its taken a lot of my writing energies.. will get to it!
Runa
player, 445 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 17 Aug 2023
at 18:17
  • msg #773

Re: OOC 3

Army has had me flying the past three days. Will post Monday.
Winter Herald
player, 646 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 22 Aug 2023
at 23:56
  • msg #774

Re: OOC 3

So... uh. Admittedly the last posts have me a bit thrown off key here. The next destination is the Florida Keys, from the sounds of it, and yet we have aircraft touching down in Arizona. The objective was to locate Raymond Long, so unless there's something extra I don't know about in 'Zona, my work there is over.
Spymaster
player, 61 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Wed 23 Aug 2023
at 00:17
  • msg #775

Re: OOC 3

Apologies, work has been kicking my ass for the last month or so. Vacation after vacation for my coworkers has kept me busy, so I haven't had much time to do much of anything.

And as I understand it, we have two targets, the Synth-Tec Lab in Arizona, and the Yacht, which is somewhere on the Atlantic Coast, though possibly it has crossed over to the Pacific.
JUSTAR
player, 137 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 23 Aug 2023
at 00:39
  • msg #776

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 774):

You are correct we didn't find our quarry in AZ.. but we got a wealth of leads that need to be tracked down.

In reply to Spymaster (msg # 775):

The Syntec Lab didn't reveal much by SSOGM's description, as Raymond Long stopped working there over 3 months ago.  But the Yacht int he Florida Keys seems the next place as SSOGM gave us the intel from Raymond Long's home and the Upstate Colorado Cabin.
Runa
player, 447 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 23 Aug 2023
at 01:53
  • msg #777

Re: OOC 3

Has anyone said IC, since Runa arrived at the LESP office, what rhe missions are?
Chimp Man Z
player, 940 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Wed 23 Aug 2023
at 15:48
  • msg #778

Re: OOC 3

Yeah.  I'm a bit lost, too.
JUSTAR
player, 138 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 23 Aug 2023
at 16:11
  • msg #779

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 778):

Ok.  My post in LESP Offices (continued I) - MSG #431 was in reply to Officer Januchowski post MSG #427 AND Chimp Man Z post MSG #429, that we need to go to Synthetic Technologies and investigate.  Hikari brought his jet to Center City and offering to transport everyone to Timber Hook, AZ where Synthetic Technologies was located.

No one replied to the offer and no one made any reply to make their own way to Arizona.

So SSOGM..end ran all of us gathering since no one seemed to be doing so and just gave us all the Intell from the stalled investigation in his MSG #433 which assumed we all went to Arizona did the investigation and the data he posted is what we learned.

To which I replied with MSG #434... listing the things Hikari thought we should begin investigating.

My post in Synthetic Technologies, MSG #3 was just to confirm what SSOGM posted in the LESP Offices (continued I) MSG #433... that Hikari did indeed go to Arizona and what actions he at least took there.
Runa
player, 448 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Wed 23 Aug 2023
at 16:54
  • msg #780

Re: OOC 3

So I think you said, no, no one posted anything IC, in the LESP Office thread, since Runa answered the call and arrived in the office, explaining anything of what you just said.

OK fine, we can skip the preliminaries. Where does Runa need to be? As in which scene, time line and thread?
Senor Garcia
player, 300 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 00:15
  • msg #781

Re: OOC 3

Since the yacht is in water, Senor Garcia's skills may be of more use sneaking aboard it or assaulting it once we determine its location.
Winter Herald
player, 647 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 00:37
  • msg #782

Re: OOC 3

If the seas are rough enough or the lighting around the ship is bad enough, I can get myself aboard silently. Give him a tracer or something, and he'll send a signal to go ahead.

I am assuming somehow that we have this information, and that Winter Herald is returning from Arizona. Sometimes information doesn't get used. Happens.

Means he's going to try and scout the ship out. Shouldn't be complex for him. There's a decent chance the best shot for most of the team will be when it docks, but coming at it from the ocean can work as well.

Depending on the window, there will likely not be time for a detailed report. If he knows exactly where to go, he can be on the yacht within a day.
Paragon
player, 83 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 00:49
  • msg #783

Re: OOC 3

Boat
Runa
player, 449 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 00:57
  • msg #784

Re: OOC 3

So it sounds like the boat is covered. That leaves what? Runa to join Hikari at Synthetic Technologies?
Chimp Man Z
player, 941 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 07:20
  • msg #785

Re: OOC 3

So, CMZ's presence at S T would probably a detriment.  Unless his celebrity might cause a bit of a distraction.
JUSTAR
player, 139 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 10:23
  • msg #786

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 784):

Technically, SSOGM has already given us all the data were likely to get out of the Synthetic Technologies we are likely to get.  As I said he kind of skipped ahead of our Role-playing going there and just gave us all the data in his post in MSG #433.  He made 'effectively' posting in the Synthetic Technologies thread moot.

Now if you want to post in the Synthetic Technologies thread to show what you did there... that's perfectly fine.. its what I did when I posted there in the Synthetic Technologies - MSG #3 post.

My post in the LESP Offices (continued I) - MSG #434 was going with the fact SSOGM just gave us the data from Synthetic Technologies ~ time wise is effectively assuming we've already gone to Synthetic Technologies and returned to Center City then started planning the next part of the investigation ... that being tracking down this Yacht the San Marqual and potentially identifying other public figures FORCE may have replaced with androids form the photos of all the celebrities who met with this Raphael DeSantos a possible alternate Id for FORCE / Franklin Emerson.

NOW with Det. Broyko's post ~ LESP Offices (continued I) - msg #436, SSOGM has given us the location of the Yacht San Marqual , I'm guessing again end-running our investigation so we don't need to investigate the Yacht club or seek satellite info to find the yacht but now directly know that the San Marqual is in some banana republic in South America ~ Delmarion Cove in Chinilaya.  So no need to investigate the Yacht either we've been told where it is...

So I'm about to post a reply to Detective Broyko in the LESP Offices (continued I) - msg #436 post which will assume Justar has visited Synthetic Technologies has questioned folks there as per my post in Synthetic Technologies - MSG #3 post, has returned to Center City as per my post in LESP Offices (continued I) - MSG #434.

Now we must decide how we will approach going to investigate this Delmarion Cove in Chinilaya.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:25, Sat 26 Aug 2023.
Runa
player, 451 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 13:30
  • msg #787

Re: OOC 3

OK, so we are all back together in the office and plotting how to go down south. Got it.

I posted just now. Not much of one I suppose but I just woke up and honestly, Runa doesn't have much to contribute in this particular conversation, at least not yet.
Senor Garcia
player, 301 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sat 26 Aug 2023
at 19:27
  • msg #788

Re: OOC 3

Hello all, I just submitted a long post for the GM to review, that is relevant to the team's current situation.

Not only does it answer the question Justar has asked Senor Garcia (going down south), but it will explain what he's been doing in the behind the scenes.
Paragon
player, 85 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Wed 30 Aug 2023
at 18:43
  • msg #789

Re: OOC 3

Can someone give me the cliffnotes version of what is going on?
Senor Garcia
player, 303 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 30 Aug 2023
at 20:05
  • msg #790

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
Can someone give me the cliffnotes version of what is going on?

An AI called FORCE is replacing high level members of the US Govt with its robots. So

So we need to go ‘off the grid’ then go to a fictional country in Central/South America kick start a revolution and use that as a cover to destroy the AI.

We have about 3 Allies.
Lt Smok - Captain of a small USN ship
Col Flagg - he runs some mercs, but Senor Garcia trained Flagg at some point.
Agent Livingston, US Secret Service.
JUSTAR
player, 144 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Wed 30 Aug 2023
at 20:53
  • msg #791

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 790):

That very much sums it up.

Except that FORCE is not really an AI, but the difference in semantics doesn't really mater when he "effectively" can act and do exactly the same things a murderous, conquering, rogue AI could do.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:56, Wed 30 Aug 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 649 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 30 Aug 2023
at 20:57
  • msg #792

Re: OOC 3

More likely, join an existing revolution. Anyhow, I'm having Winter Herald on his way down, and he's going to wait for the confirmation from someone that they are going after Long. If he receives none, he's going to assume something has gone wrong and engage in the operation alone.

And the only reason Winter Herald isn't going after FORCE is a concern that Major FORCE might be a technopath. Bellissima taught him that it was certainly possible. He's cut off in comms, so he can't throw in his two cents on the subject.
JUSTAR
player, 151 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Sun 3 Sep 2023
at 17:06
  • msg #793

Re: OOC 3

Welcome a new player... or lurker..."Watchman".

So TaoZen and Teruka... when are you two going post?  You check in constantly... or is just observing enough for you? :)
This message was last edited by the player at 17:07, Sun 03 Sept 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 305 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 3 Sep 2023
at 17:36
  • msg #794

Re: OOC 3

JUSTAR:
Welcome a new player... or lurker..."Watchman".

So TaoZen and Teruka... when are you two going post?  You check in constantly... or is just observing enough for you? :)

Some players never make it past the character creation stage....
SSOGM
GM, 1031 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 3 Sep 2023
at 17:42
  • msg #795

Re: OOC 3

Taozen was active for some time, I've assumed they have other things going on. Teruka is Chimp Man Z's friend.
Chimp Man Z
player, 943 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 3 Sep 2023
at 19:18
  • msg #796

Re: OOC 3

Teruka checks in when I do.  I had a plan for an RP scenario between the two, but I just haven't gotten around to it.
Paragon
player, 87 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 04:35
  • msg #797

Re: OOC 3

I have nothing to contribute. Anything I can/would do, Justar does better, faster, and with more words. Honestly I don't know why any of the rest of us are even here since we're all just window dressing for Justar.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:37, Mon 04 Sept 2023.
JUSTAR
player, 153 posts
Mutant MA15/PB14{17d/20s}
HP55, SDC137 EB:176 AR10
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 05:13
  • msg #798

Re: OOC 3

And Yet... the GM has specifically just thrown a full on criminal investigation, counter-intelligence, infiltration scenario at us which Paragon should be Very good at and which Justicar/Justar has absolutely no skill for other than some streetwise and research skill.. but You refuse to engage.  I was excited that THIS scenario would specifically allow Justicar/Justar to take a backseat while the spies and investigators strut their stuff!

We've been dealing with tech and no one else does tech really, but justicar/justar.. its no wonder he's been in the center of it.

And I'm Not going to apologize for being a creative writer... I've been trying to curb my verbose-style out of politeness.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:17, Mon 04 Sept 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 306 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 05:31
  • msg #799

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
I have nothing to contribute. Anything I can/would do, Justar does better, faster, and with more words. Honestly I don't know why any of the rest of us are even here since we're all just window dressing for Justar.

Personally, I feel Justar’s player has driven away quite a few players for that reason because they think they are the main character of the game. The character is way overpowered in terms of powers, probably has way too many skill programs and grossly takes advantage of the ‘you get x number of exp per post’ rule the GM has by posting several times a day instead of waiting for other players to post and provide their own input to the game.

The GM for some reason or another has allowed Justar’s player to run rampant in this game.

Why? I do not know, and only Justar’s player or the GM can answer that.

The best thing that could happen to this game at this point is for the character of Justar be killed/retired or the player leaves the game. The ‘you get x number of exp per post’ rule needs to go away too. If Justar’s player stays and makes a new character the GM needs to ensure the player doesn’t use the RAW or house rules to make an overpowered character.
JUSTICAR
player, 1510 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 11:33
  • msg #800

Re: OOC 3

I cannot speak to the powers I have {there are five}, 4 initial ~ the GM assigned, and 1 from level advancement which I choose.  I've not hidden what those powers are you can look at my profile to see what those powers are.
I've tried In-Game to give away technology and advice on how to counter those powers.. but You Senor specifically refused to listen in-character!

Yes, I changed OCC... an Option that was open to every one of you to do also!

As for skills I've gained 2 and ONLY 2 skill programs One from college, One from Hyper Intelligence, and I NEVER got ANY skills from Initial Education {unlike EVERYONE Else} ~ only the Robotics: Exoskeleton pilot skills...
I've added only these ~
{GM designed} Advance Robotics Program: Electrical Engineer-1st; Mechanical Engineer-1st; Robot Electronics-1st; Robot Mechanics-1st
Criminal Program: Streetwise; Pick Locks; Computer Hacking; Prowl; Seduction

And the skills from level ANYONE would get
Robotics OCC: {3rd} Hand to hand: Expert - Upgrade to Martial Arts, {3rd} WP Modern: Heavy; {5th} Radio: Scrambler; {5th} First Aid
Mutant OCC: {3rd} Armorer {Field}, {3rd} Research, {3rd} ‘Hyper-IQ’ Swimming

As for the xp it is only 5xp per post for EVERY post... not just mine and WE ALL GET THAT XP!  I've specifically not taken some of it cause I was specifically NOT there!  Like the entire Kansas Commune posts.. I never took a single post of that into account and there were a space of LESP offices I was not there for and could not contribute I took none of those posts into account.

By my records YOU should ALL have...
41 LESP Radio, 458 LESP Offices C1, 158 Municipal Convention Center, 357 Open RP, 276 San Sebastian Island, 185 Center City - The Harmon Building,
56 In Dr. Phage's Submarine, 283 The Island Of Aeaea, 155 Aboard The Gemini, 969 LESP Offices [I did not take all of this - I was not there for it],
40 Biker Bar filled with Dogs of War, 447 San Sebastian Island Havoc team
- 5,213xp

I took no post xp from all of this even though the GM said I could...
75 Inside Aeaea Island, 63 New York City, Holly Cook's Apartment, 80 New York City, The Bank of State Facility,
35 New York City, The Caveat Allure Agency Offices, 255 San Sebastian Island Strike team, 10 Manufacturing Sub-Basement on San Sebastian Island,
118 Church of Divine Harmony Kansas Commune, 49 The House On The Hill, 9 Do You Want a Shot at The Champ, 23 Into The Mystic
- 3,595xp
[EDIT: Correction.. I took post xp from the LESPRadio posts I made in these threads - New York City, Holly Cook's Apartment '9posts'/ New York City, The Caveat Allure Agency Offices '6posts', and in the San Sebastian Island Strike team  starting at post [172] {84posts} when Crusader and I joined that thread]

That's It.. I have NOT taken "advantage" of the posting system.. you ALL get that xp you get xp from ALL of my posts!
That was always the policy of the game when the GM started it.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:05, Mon 04 Sept 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 307 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 14:14
  • msg #801

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 800):

Look at your posting rate as opposed to everyone else. Most of the time it seems you’re ‘playing with yourself’ because Justar’s is interacting with an NPC. Some of which you the player created.

You have no consideration of other players and how often they can post. As a player you should make a post then WAIT for most of the other player characters to post before posting again. By waiting to post it allow other players to post, interact within the game and make their own posts that ALSO help push the narrative.

Instead the game plays out somewhat like this: Player A posts. Justar posts. Then player B posts. Justar posts. Player C posts. Justar posts.

Thus what happens is your character is driving the narrative a majority of the time. This is not fun for the rest of us.
Paragon
player, 88 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 14:25
  • msg #802

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 801):

That is exactly how I feel. Whether true or not from your point of view I feel I have nothing to contribute. You are a good writer but you lack patience.

This is not my first character in this game. I left because I had nothing to contribute. I thought if I came with superpowers I could contribute, but now you have those too, amd yours trump mine.

I do not want you to leave, but I will not be your insignificant sidekick. I asked for threads where some or all of us could play without Justar. You ask why I won't join the investigation thread, and Justar is the answer. I won't be your insignificant sidekick.
JUSTICAR
player, 1511 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 14:51
  • msg #803

Re: OOC 3

Ok. I hear you.. we gotten to a valid issue.  I will adjust my posting rate.  I will only post when everyone else has posted something As well as ACTIVELY try to cut down on my posts lengths.  This I can do.

Though to be honest... as the scenario has turned to a investigation and infiltration theme.. skills Hikari does not really have I was not going to be able to contribute much anyways.  I was mostly planning on sitting back and just doing research with the time.
Paragon
player, 89 posts
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 15:46
  • [deleted]
  • msg #804

Re: OOC 3

This message was deleted by the player at 17:15, Mon 04 Sept 2023.
Spymaster
player, 64 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 17:08
  • msg #805

Re: OOC 3

Honestly, I feel the biggest issue you have Justicar is that you want to be involved in everything, even when it doesn't help, as well as you have way too much. You have something like 5 NPCS in his family, who are all super geniuses or super powered, an experimental space bomber(which would get you shut down by any government, especially as you're a Japanese citizen), a science yacht, a war ship, I've counted 4 different suits of armor, ai drones to run them, standard uav drones, a force field generator, you've made custom stun pistols and armor, and that's not counting the actual super powers you have. Also with all those things, you're kind of stepping on everyone else's toes. Your Jet can outrun Winter Herald whose thing is being the fast guy, your energy form makes you nearly as tanky as CMZ, while also being able to hit harder, and outright makes Captain Justice less by it's existence since all he has is flight. It's not so bad to have overlap on a super team, but you also have to allow people to shine at their roles. This Chinilaya op needed little involvement from you, Garcia and I both specifically said it would be better for the known metas to stay, and gave several reasons as to why having a public identity and getting involved in a coup in the third world was a bad idea. My presumption would be the team would be myself, Garcia, Herald,  maybe Paragon, Runa, or Captain Justice, or some combination depending on their views, and Drifter being a back and forth, since his powers would allow him to be in multiple places at once, as well as making infiltration and exfiltration easier. You weren't considered since the whole EM cannon will turn off your tech thing, the only person who should be immune to that is Herald, since clearly the same tech he's made from is operating there, and someone glowing like a thousand Hiroshimas tends to be a negative on a stealth mission. Also you gave Garcia a lecture on deadly force, and as I made abundantly clear, Chinilaya is going to have a body count. I'll be acting to minimize it, but it is a war, people will die. And yet, your gung ho about a billionaire industrialist going to go fight in a third world country, and you see no problem with that. Because the idea you aren't directly involved in it hurts you, even though you'd be better suited to sit back in Center City, and analyze data as we need it and handle things there, because your skill set doesn't deal with guerilla warfare, and just come in for the final push, once we've weakened his forces, and revealed he's there to the world, so it doesn't look like you're working to overthrow a country, but rather liberating an oppressed nation from a super villain. But since you've been super upfront about wanting to fight, Spymaster hasn't told you to sit down, since traveling by boat to San Sebastian works for him, and you're offering a free ride.

And saying "well, I offered to make you super powers" really doesn't help the argument that you aren't trying to be the main character, because that makes everyone else beholden to you. Trying to solve CMZ's nudity problem is fine, it's not an enhancement, it's something he struggles with, and it would be seen as a friendly gesture. When you make someone a brand new set of gear based on what you think they need, you're overstepping your bounds. Take the cosplay thing, Runa and Justice might have had skills they wanted to use to make their own, giving themselves more xp, as well as roleplay opportunities, instead in jumps Justicar to 3d print combat cosplays. You took a thing that could have been about them, and made it about you. Hell, when Paragon, Justice, and I all joined, instead of allowing a nice little orientation scene, let the 3 new people know each other first, you barged in, showed off, declared none of them were useful, and stomped away.
Paragon
player, 90 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 17:36
  • msg #806

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Spymaster (msg # 805):

Yes, that is exactly it. On the nose. Justicar takes all the air out of the room. No one else has room to breath or be independant.

It isn't that we don't want your help, it is that there are times when we can and SHOULD do things on our own. If we run into a problem that you can handle and we ASK for your help then you come in and help. Help is the optimal word, not just push everyone else aside and make them feel like that have no consequence or worth to the team because hell you are the team. You don't need us, we are just there to be in fancy outfits and call ourselves your team while just do everything.

This is a TEAM game. We are a team, Central City Spook Squad or whatever we are calling ourselves once we resign from official duties. We are not Justicar and a bunch of randos. You should have just stayed a tech guy, but instead you branched out into everyone else's thing by taking a whole new class. Yes it is a mega-hero, regardless of how you got that past the GM. We all should get to have two classes, and really even then we won't be more than your sidekicks.

The way to solve this problem is:
a) retire Justar. Just make a new single class character and stick with a single niche.
b) take Justar off and do work without us because he doesn't need us.

Neither of these mean you leave the game. They just require you to play as a member of the team, one with their own niche and not pushing into anyone else's. Paragon is a good example. My whole schtick is based on the Super Luck theme, all her powers can be traced to that theme. It doesn't cross into anyone else's theme. I carefully made sure of that by posting the build and allowing anyone who wanted to object to do so and I would have had the opportunity to alter it. I altered it myself, removing Natural Combat as I felt it made her too powerful and replaced it with a much more focused Slow Motion power. It was a bit more difficult to fit into the theme of Luck, but not impossible. The GM was nice enough to allow me to take a special martial art which makes me very good at hand to hand, but not overwhelming. I don't overshadow anyone else, instead I compliment them. I try to use what I have to make the team better, not to make the team inconsequential. That is a fine line, one I might step over occasionally, but when I do I immediately retreat far back of it. You on the other hand blow past it like it isn't even there and never bother to even look back let alone go back behind it.

I know you might feel like this is an attack on you. It isn't, none of us have suggested you leave. We all like you. You seem very eager and you are a good writer. You just need to temper your youthful (?) enthusiasm and be a team player. You have baseball in Japan yes? On  a team does one player play all positions? No. There are 9 players on the field, each have their own place in the field and only leave that place as a back up...to help their fellow player with the goal to keep the other team from scoring. You need to pick a position and play it, not play all the positions on the field. Does that make sense?
This message was last edited by the player at 17:38, Mon 04 Sept 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 655 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 21:05
  • msg #807

Re: OOC 3

I have to be careful adding to this, because I have no wish to gang up on someone, but there is a problem here. Relative to everyone else's concerns, I'm getting an impression of being less on an island and more in planetary orbit. My concerns are not quite shared.

I am accustomed to Palladium's idea of "balance." There's a nostalgia filter to this particular brand of idiocy, and I suspect it only gets a pass because I have not managed to completely kill off the tendency to view old things as good, even if they were hot garbage then and now. Experience with That Other Roleplaying Game's 3rd Edition didn't help me develop the intolerance for this inequity that perhaps I should have acquired.

I am used to some players, due to having a head start in time and resources, as well as through the nature of their build, simply outclassing everyone else. It's... frustrating, admittedly, being vastly outclassed by another just because they were here first or allowed choices I was not or chose not to take, even as I have no solid case against it. As a player, I cannot personally tell someone to be less than they wish to be, within the confines of the system, if it achieves the victory they are seeking, because I would fight such socially imposed limitations myself.

That said, there is clearly an issue when three players publicly air grievances and point at one player. I see what is coming. I'm only hoping it is a net positive when it arrives.
JUSTICAR
player, 1512 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 21:57
  • msg #808

Re: OOC 3

Sigh. Alright.  I have invested a great deal of thought and effort into this character to just give him up because he's.. too cool.  But... that said the game is not about just me and has NEVER been in my opinion.  I do not agree that my character basically in his posts being very descriptive and or explanatory of things he knows about from his point of view somehow excludes or make invalid other players expostulating upon their knowledge, their history, their perceptions, their ideas ~ especially when no one being Forced to obey, follow or even regard my character's attempts at contributing.

I've never demanded people use what I offer freely.  You say I'm stealing the narrative ... I do not see how when events are not directed by my efforts.  You are all free to do as you please.. though the single sentence posts so many are fond of does not really add to the narrative direction.

I've had no more advantages or opportunities that ANY of you have not had as well.. I have just used what I have to the fullest.

Paragon is correct and thank you for voicing so ~ that this IS a TEAM effort and I have indeed walked away from games for the good of the game, for the good of the other players so.. I'll relent and make a different character.

Its a shame I'd been planning from the VERY beginning of this character to get to this point ~ now all my efforts were finally paying off.

However, I maintain that I Want EVERYONE to enjoy the game and so I will concede to playing a different character.

I will not take a second OCC even though the option is still open, I'll play a single OCC.

My fear is we will be right back to THIS point in another few months as my character will still be capable and I will stridently put effort into it being the Very BEST it can be within its domain.

I'll total my current xp and play single class a Psionic character.. no one else has done that.  I'll not even use the Super martial arts options all of you took but I refrained from.

Satisfied?
Runa
player, 454 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 22:16
  • msg #809

Re: OOC 3

Hey gang, been busy and finally got time to read all of this. I feel it's a little late to interiect as Justar has already made his decision.

What I will say is...
quote:
I'll not even use the Super martial arts options all of you took but I refrained from.


Hold up, we all took some super martial art? When was that an option? Runa has plain old generic "Expert".

Moving on...

So I know how to post IC next, are we going to that country now? On that one shadowhawk boat of Hikari's? Or has the plan changed as a result of Justar changing characters?
Winter Herald
player, 656 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 22:31
  • msg #810

Re: OOC 3

To Justar:

If that is what you are doing, alright. At the worst, it is a throw of the dice. We'll see where they land.

----------------------------------------------
To Runa:

I have classic Martial Arts complemented by classic Boxing and Fencing - Winter Herald's style is very hard point, linear, and uses a lot of math. This is intentional. I can confirm one character who took the advanced stuff, and I believe a total of three have thus far.

If I were in your position, I'd probably just do it as soon as I learned where to post. If Justar is retiring to NPC status, they'll still be doing things for us. They'll just be distracted with other matters at some point.
SSOGM
GM, 1033 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 22:54
  • msg #811

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
...

I'll total my current xp and play single class a Psionic character.. no one else has done that.  I'll not even use the Super martial arts options all of you took but I refrained from.
...

I've basically let this discussion run because I've always tried to distance myself from player's actions. Some of you have occasionally felt the unseen hand of the GM propel your character for some GM reason, and I doubt anyone enjoyed it. Unfortunately, that's one of my faults. So, rather than be guilty of having the players watch me write a novel when I invited them to play a game, I keep my hands off as much as possible.
If the player wants JUSTICAR/JUSTAR to head back to Japan because there's a new lead on Magnentor while someone new shows up at Lieutenant Broyko's urging (he's still advertising). I would like to point out that TaoZen was a psionic character with a special martial art, while Bellissima was a psionic character with generic hand to hand skills.
We've had most power categories, although I don't recall any non-alien mystic study characters. [Private to JUSTICAR: If you desire, you can be assigned any of the Crusaders or other NPC's (within reason) while you sort out someone new.]
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:30, Mon 04 Sept 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 1034 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 22:55
  • msg #812

Re: OOC 3

The main map now shows the location of Chinilaya. There's a Chinilaya thread to contain posts for that locality. Those planning to infiltrate will be entering a Central American country with a sharp contrast between the outlying villages and the modernized cities. Please make use of your skills as needed to navigate through the beginning of the infiltration posting as if entering a generic Central American country.
Senor Garcia
player, 308 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 23:03
  • msg #813

Re: OOC 3

To Runa’s player, Senor Garcia has Krava Magra from one of the Rifters. It doesn’t have any crazy ninja magic powers that use CHI. IMO one of the best martial arts a character can/should get is jujitsu from N&SS core book. It has striking and lot of holds to lock up and enemy and/or break a limb or dislocate a joint. Maybe see if the GM will be willingly to let you go with that.

To JUSTCAR’s player, keep in mind that making a new character can be fun and use the opportunity to branch out and create a character concept that you’re not normally used to making/running.

Eventually Señor Garcia is going to die (lots of enemies in his past, break the law too much (possibly going rouge), or sacrifice himself for the greater good. I already have a super hero concept in mind as a replacement character, who this time won’t have such a twisted set of morals due to decades of being an assassin for the US Govt.
Paragon
player, 91 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 23:14
  • msg #814

Re: OOC 3

Justar, keep in mind team concept. Otherwise sounds great. Group mind block for the win!
Runa
player, 455 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 02:21
  • msg #815

Re: OOC 3

I'll make a IC post late tonight
Winter Herald
player, 657 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 02:24
  • msg #816

Re: OOC 3

Would have been nice to know there's a doorway in the LESP offices going to Chinyila. Not for me, mind you. I'm over in Arizona for now, until I am given the reason to not be there.

If possible, Winter Herald has every intention of showing up for this. He's just going to be late by his standards. His goal is to ensure victory after the battle is won, by doing this boring stuff now.
Spymaster
player, 65 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 02:34
  • msg #817

Re: OOC 3

There's no need to change characters, that was never the intention of what I wrote. What I meant was you need to let others actually have a role, and try to keep to yours until they need you to step in. Give people a bit of time to post, let them react to things. Currently you want to be like the theoretical Wizard, who can do everything else the party does, but instead of stepping in when they falter and boosting them, you're going straight to overriding them. My skill set is skills, I have more skills than I literally know what to do with, but I'm not a master in all of them. But when I was picking them, I took things that seemed like things an actual spy would know, like I can fly helicopters and regular planes, but not jets because a spy likely wouldn't be using a fighter jet. I probably have overlaps with most everyone on skill sets, but either they exceed me, or it's a thing that makes sense like Garcia and I both have demolitions since that is something we both would have done. The catch is while I'm probably as good a medic as Runa in the nonmagical sense, I'm probably not jumping in until it's something she can't handle solo, like an entire field hospital full of the injured, or that Garcia and I both need to set charges to quickly take down a target, or two separate targets so that we aren't in each others way. I have two martial styles from ninjas and superspies, one lets me paralyze someone with 3 consecutive blows, or do a small amount of direct HP damage, presuming my target is organic, while the other is straight fist fighting, and I have about a 70% chance to be undetectable to one target, and when I level I'm getting the ability to do Iron Fist punches. These are not anywhere near broken. My goal when building him after rolling it has been to be the Batman, I can plan, analyze the data, and I win fights by refusing to fight fair. My trust issues developed from years of CIA business make me ill suited to be a leader, and I refuse that whenever it's been offered.

But to get to the crux of my point, take the synth tech investigation. Herald took off, and you estimated it would be 3 hours for him to arrive. Instead of suggesting that Drifter use his ability to transport us, his specialty, you had engaged the jet even before Herald took off. That's jumping into both guys specialties, saying you can outfast the fast guy, and you don't see the point of the transport guy, because you have a transport. That's opportunities to let the other players shine, and instead you have to show off your toys. Just pull it back a bit, and let others actually play. Also, don't spend so much time with your NPCs, you have 8 players to bounce off of, roleplay with them instead of talking to your father or drones. You'd be surprised how the long posts don't bother people when they actual pertain to them, as opposed to novels purely about you and your NPC army.

And the plan was a few days to stock up supplies and for those with loved ones to tell them goodbye, since this is a trip of indeterminate time. Drifter just sort of jumped the gun and teleported in.
Winter Herald
player, 658 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 02:54
  • msg #818

Re: OOC 3

Hmm... this *would* be an interesting chance for Drifter to tour the country... informal recon can be some amazing stuff. "They do so much with the food for such a poor country! Excellent taste! However, I wouldn't eat the goat meat, don't drink water you haven't boiled or purified first, and the bread is to die for, holy crap."

It's actually surprising what a little general knowledge can get you, even if it isn't clear at the time.

EDIT: Also, the autism in me - we are going in two days. I am slow on the draw.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:02, Tue 05 Sept 2023.
Spymaster
player, 67 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 03:02
  • msg #819

Re: OOC 3

Well, presuming he doesn't die. It would be invaluable to have a general feel of how things are on the ground, since from what I'm gathering information is scarce. Also, I'll be updating my inventory to reflect the amount of bullets and meds I bought tomorrow, I have work in the morning, and I need to sleep, not flip through books looking for prices.
Chimp Man Z
player, 944 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 15:41
  • msg #820

Re: OOC 3

This should prove interesting.
Winter Herald
player, 660 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 18:51
  • msg #821

Re: OOC 3

If Drifter and Paragon are there two days early, well... we should have some groundwork ready for us when we arrive. Two of us being there won't change much, but it might at least crack open some doors we'd have to work a lot harder at opening. As long as you speak the local language, anyhow.

Good luck, guys.
Chimp Man Z
player, 946 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 5 Sep 2023
at 20:11
  • msg #822

Re: OOC 3

Well, now Jacob has joined them.
Winter Herald
player, 663 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 08:02
  • msg #823

Re: OOC 3

You know, I want to have Winter Herald speak in the next post and tell Spymaster, "The three of them are experienced metabeings who can take care of themselves. We do not need to rush. How much trouble could they possibly get into in three days?"

And then I want to see a thread called "How Much Trouble They Got Into". Whether it proves me right or wrong is utterly irrelevant to me.

But that's the love of "Always Sunny In Philadelphia" and particularly their smash cut title drops. Also, the existing players would have to agree to that thread name, for obvious reasons.
Chimp Man Z
player, 950 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 08:48
  • msg #824

Re: OOC 3

I like it.
JUSTICAR
player, 1514 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 10:05
  • msg #825

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 807):

Honestly, THIS is also my point.  Everything Justicar/Justar has done and achieved are all part of and indicative of the system we are playing.  Anyone having made the choices I have with the same GM's rulings could do as I have done.  As I've said I have had no advantages other, or potential choices other players have not been made available to them as well.  In the confines of the Robotics: Exoskeletal pilot I have fully fleshed out his capabilities.  Anyone Else part of that Robotics or even to some extent Cyborg origin has access to the same technological options I have.

It may not be liked that it is indeed a Very Wide set of abilities in the Palladium system, but it is valid and admittedly not balanced with perhaps other origin paths but it is indicative of the Palladium gaming system especially some of the first and second generation gaming systems.  I'm like Winter an old school gamer from the era of THAT system where all character had different experience point tables and some character advanced particularly faster than other while some even as low as 7th or 9th level began to make other classes almost irrelevant with the inherent access to powerful effects and capabilities in the game only a few other 'classes' could ever match or keep up with.  I'm use to such imbalance as in my early gaming it was just something I was usually on the short end of playing 'just a fighter' while all the spellcasters increasingly made my contributions smaller and smaller over time.

I had not set out when I made Justicar to do this.. intentionally, I just wanted to play a 'Tony Stark' style character as no one else in the game was doing that.  I had never played a long term palladium game before and had no idea how capable or efficient the Robotics path would be... so it was kind of a shock to me as well.

Regardless, I have made a new character, but honestly... I'm not really "feeling" like putting the exhaustive effort I put into Justicar into a new character.  So I'm not really inspired to introduce them into the current narrative.  I have only so much time and creative energy in my real world concerns and responsibilities to put More effort into something I'm not really interested in playing, but I do see a role Justicar can still play.  Regardless of other player's wishes I've not done anything the GM has disapproved of in my character development or progress but in the current narrative weather I have avoided, in the GM's opinion, the "mega-hero" definition or not, I CAN and will as a player take the back seat and allow the narrative to focus on less prolific posters. I will play in the background available when his capabilities are needed or desired to move the narrative further on.

I still get xp from every post made though I've tended to not count threads I am not specifically in. I do have other real world concerns so perhaps a less demanding posting rate is best for me at this time anyways.  So I'll be sitting back as just watching for a bit... perhaps at some point I may feel inspired and have the energy to introduce my 'new character' but right now "lurking" here in the game narrative is fine with my time and energy available.

Game On.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:28, Thu 07 Sept 2023.
SSOGM
GM, 1036 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 12:09
  • msg #826

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
You know, I want to have Winter Herald speak in the next post and tell Spymaster, "The three of them are experienced metabeings who can take care of themselves. We do not need to rush. How much trouble could they possibly get into in three days?"

And then I want to see a thread called "How Much Trouble They Got Into". Whether it proves me right or wrong is utterly irrelevant to me.

But that's the love of "Always Sunny In Philadelphia" and particularly their smash cut title drops. Also, the existing players would have to agree to that thread name, for obvious reasons.

That's a good idea.
[Private to Chimp Man Z; Drifter; Paragon: I set up a thread as Winter Herald suggested, it's ready for the three of you to post in and will help separate the two mission groups.]
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:12, Thu 07 Sept 2023.
Paragon
player, 94 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 12:20
  • msg #827

Re: OOC 3

@ Justicar/Justar/Hikari

You could just have whatever gave him powers wear off. The GM could limit your available funds in any number of way, that way the choices your making have some boundaries. Say his mom claimed patents on his current work because he is a minor. That would make all but his most recent iteration out of reach, severely restrict how much he can spend (not how much he actually has, as the game says something about not spending money that is invested). The second thing wouldn't be permanent, since he has the ability to invent new things he would eventually have resources again.

This sort of thing happens in comics all the time. Characters gain and lose abilities and powers as writers experiment with what is available.

The first thing I think should be permanent. How does having flashy mutant powers fit the theme of Tony Stark. Tony is cool because he is self-made. His intellect is his "power" and I have seen it argued that he has some kind of power that allows him to adapt technology. Think about the third (?) Iron Man movie, the one with the Extremis guys? In that one he had to do a lot of improvising because his shit got blown up and his one armor was still powering up. He had to adapt.

You argue that we had the same choices and we are choosing to hamper ourselves. You are correct, at least on my part. I've always liked the underdog, like Daredevil. Sure he has powers but he is just a flesh and blood guy. That is what makes him a hero, not the powers but the courage to go out there and take the pain so others don't.

Your character is:
A teenage billionaire genius
who
builds giant robots and other tech to simulate powers
and
has 5 (?) other genius level  NPCs to aid him
and
has mutant powers
and
and
and

You still don't understand the point we have all been making. You say "your characters suck because you made suck characters," and then you go about playing as if you are the only person here. It really isn't your character, it is your play style. You play as if you are the MAIN character, not one in an ensemble. You tell the rest of us we are irrelevant and to be honest you are correct, next to you we are irrelevant, not because your character is the "best he can be" but because he is a bully who pushes everyone else out of their niche because he has to PROVE that he is better than everyone else at everything.

I strongly encourage you to take a look at what you have, not from the "it is available to everyone so I am going to grab it all" mentality but from a "how can I best work in and with a team." You don't work with us, you push us out and do everything for us. You make us feel inconsequential. It isn't just me, I know that because there are two or three other players here who feel the same. You are going to think I am attacking you, I am not. This is constructive criticism. Just because you have the choice to be all powerful doesn't mean you should take it. Being the best doesn't mean having the most, it means having your own niche, and working with others. We all have strengths and weaknesses that compliment each other. You just have strengths and you don't need us. This is the core of the issue, not your posting rate, length, or whatever other things you come up with. Right now you seem like a spoiled brat who is pouting after shouting "I'm taking my toys and going home." Don't you want to be an adult who plays well with others?
Chimp Man Z
player, 952 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 14:38
  • msg #828

Re: OOC 3

It looks like Captain Justice is going to join us in seeing how much trouble we can vet into.
Runa
player, 458 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 15:49
  • msg #829

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
It looks like Captain Justice is going to join us in seeing how much trouble we can vet into.

Could be a lot of fun! Especially some sort of buzz can be generated about his arrival in the city/country.
JUSTICAR
player, 1515 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 15:56
  • msg #830

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Paragon (msg # 827):

No. I have said how I will contribute to the game. I have said I will pull back into a more supportive role to make room for other character's time to shine in their chosen narrative. I have agreed to be more conservative in my posting rate and size.  But I am Not changing my character to suit Your opinion of what My character should be.

That is solely My choice.

Your premise that Superman, or Green Lantern being on the Justice League invalidates such character's as the Green Arrow, The Question, or even perhaps Batman simply because their power, versatility and utility is so great they make the entire league redundant... when that is simply not the case.  Hikari is FAR FROM being Superman or even the Green Lantern.  I have limitations very definite limits which have been shown in previous encounters and scenarios. I do not insist on doing everything myself, I have NEVER been the one to always 'down' the bad-guy nor have I tried to be such. I have Always tried to include everyone in the narrative.

By the simple imbalance inherent in the PALLADIUM Game system I do indeed have a lot of capabilities and I have indeed pursued a course to grow those capabilities.  I'll make no apologies for doing so.

I'm not taking my 'toys' and going home, I'm adjusting my play-style to make More room for others in the narrative.  My character's existence does nothing to diminish the role You have with your character if you engage the narrative as well.  The GM has never given ANY criticism of my play-style in PM or openly here.  GM and I have discussed in the past and I have agreed to limiting the impact of Justicar's drones and I agree with those alterations.

So disagree all you want.  I'm not arguing over this anymore and I'm not changing MY character to suit your views.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:23, Thu 07 Sept 2023.
Senor Garcia
player, 313 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 16:22
  • msg #831

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 830):

….and the attitude you have just displayed is what will continue to drive players away from this game.
Chimp Man Z
player, 953 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 17:09
  • msg #832

Re: OOC 3

Is there a way this debate could be handled without insults and namecalling?  That sort of thing drives away players faster than almost anything else.
Paragon
player, 96 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Thu 7 Sep 2023
at 20:25
  • msg #833

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 832):

Yes absolutely.
Winter Herald
player, 664 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 02:07
  • msg #834

Re: OOC 3

So, four people already ahead. Runa, Spymaster, Senor, and myself remaining behind. The first three are likely prepping themselves for war in their own ways, while I'm busy doing gruntwork and paperwork until it is time to ship off.

------------------------------------------------------

On OOC, airing a grievance publicly is a sledgehammer approach. And sometimes we need a hammer to the face, because we don't get nuance and subtlety is lost on us. Or at least on me, anyways - autism life.

Sledgehammers are exhausting, though, and deliver diminishing returns. Early, as a surprise, or late in when combat breakdown has set in, they are a fantastic and dynamic way to enter the US prison system. But if the target is still up, you'll eventually find that you aren't getting the results you were getting not too long ago anymore.

Additionally, the public arena has some pride with it. Humility is not rewarded when others are coming at you directly and not messing around with their issues; the brain sees fight or flight when it is normally wired. So, if it were me, I would fight back when it would be extremely unwise to, to the detriment of everyone, if the sledgehammer swings kept coming.

Perhaps it is time for PMs on this issue? I'm assuming those have not been exhausted, or that conditions have reset to allow them as an option once more. Admittedly, my interest is social order in the moment. I am simply wondering if that has actually been exhausted yet, given the changes that are occurring now, and the ground that has been gained.

Or maybe a shorthand view is needed. Try not to overplay a winning hand. If you have won, be magnanimous in your victory, and remember that defiance should be considered the expectation of the defeated.
Paragon
player, 97 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 02:31
  • msg #835

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 834):

Understood
Runa
player, 459 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 02:44
  • msg #836

Re: OOC 3

By stay behind, you mean on the boat, right? The boat that will soon be departing for Chinchilla? Or whatever the place is called?
Paragon
player, 98 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 03:30
  • msg #837

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 836):

Lol. It's Chinchilla...cannon.
Psi-Bird
player, 1 post
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP51, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 04:22
  • msg #838

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 836):

'snicker'
Chimp Man Z
player, 954 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 04:36
  • msg #839

Re: OOC 3

Welcome, Birdie.
Winter Herald
player, 665 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 04:42
  • msg #840

Re: OOC 3

We are on a two day delay, relative to the other team. Honestly, this is not a bad idea, as chaotically implemented as it was.

Also, hello.
Psi-Bird
player, 2 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP51, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 05:00
  • msg #841

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Chimp Man Z (msg # 839):

Hey CMZ.  I'm ...trying to embrace some of Winter's vast wisdom... Team work... meeting half-way and such.  Still not sure exactly how to word her first post, but I'll think of something ~ hopefully brief.

Hey to you too Winter... Your words resonate, thanks a bunch for your input!
Winter Herald
player, 667 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 10:59
  • msg #842

Re: OOC 3

Hey, Captain Justice - I'm curious. Right now, I'm kind of defaulting to you being in the portal, unless you are there, but not there. That could be hilarious, in its own way.

--------------------------------------------

Speaking of, I've attempted to calculate how I could detect if someone had been replaced by a mechanical counterpart built with most of Winter Herald's infiltration measures.

Now, first one is "Do they actually have active radar up?" If so, they're hot, and my systems will ping them. I probably won't be the only one, either.

None of my vision methods would reveal them, not even the infrared. Delivering a surface cut will not reveal one, neither would bruises - the synthskin is effective at emulating flesh, even to the point of simulating scabs, although large injuries look quite horrific and do not heal right... although an injury of that scale has likely revealed it anyways. It would be up to the uncanny valley to push them out, barring psychopathic measures.

First, emulated breathing has to be a subroutine. It is possible that no matter the situation, they will continue to breath at a steady pace, depending on how well or poorly they were coded. But involuntary reactions - breathing, blinking, the slight tics we do, or the stutters and glitches in our speech and thinking - a machine struggles with the simulation of these, particularly under pressure. It will likely be too perfect, too controlled.

I've taken to keeping the bug detector on me in case someone around me starts transmitting data at a particular radio frequency away from us. It isn't 100%, but it creates an extra factor an infiltrating android has to account for, and the mistakes that get a spy caught are usually the death of one thousand cuts.

I suspect scent might be another path. If they are impersonating someone, it is unlikely they accounted for that. If they are an original person, they might still smell wrong, like the Terminator from the franchise. Winter Herald, at least, can simulate sweat, blood and tears, but that doesn't mean that it is anything other than a chemical that appears close to these things. And one from the same assembly line or factory will likely smell like another, which might tip their hand.

So, in short, scent and programming mistakes are the only two reliable methods I can think of, short of a metal detector.
JUSTICAR
player, 1516 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 11:23
  • msg #843

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Winter Herald (msg # 842):

I don't know if Winter has the flexibility to do this but if you could "tune" your radar to different frequency sensitivity perhaps you might be able to pick up the constant regular neutron emission of an active fusion power source?  Or perhaps increase your radar's sensitivity to differentiate between material densities like penetrating radar... as 'human' bones have only a specific density.  Artificial parts like in a android would be composed of parts with a much higher density especially internal battery packs?  I don't know if Winter's Ultrasonic hearing is active enough to be able to transmit a frequency that will resonate with the silicates a solar array must be composed of to soak up solar radiation to convert to electrical power. That would also be a dead give-away on a normal looking person that they have some form of solar array in or on their body?

I know these are more in the realm of a magnetic resonance detector but its a thought.  Scent and programing involuntary regular rigidity might be the best available.. but they take time to recognize a pattern in a supposedly random reflex responses.  Get a dog...'shrug' ?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:32, Fri 08 Sept 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 668 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 8 Sep 2023
at 21:18
  • msg #844

Re: OOC 3

I am fairly certain my micro-radar does not work that way. And I have ultrasonic hearing, not sonar. It is entirely passive. I can hear sonar and maybe make use of it if someone else is throwing it around, but to my knowledge I cannot get a real good look at you by screaming at you.

Scent was an option in case someone had access to a sensory ability they didn't bring a lot of attention to. It's niche, but fairly handy when you need it.
Spymaster
player, 69 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Sat 9 Sep 2023
at 00:54
  • msg #845

Re: OOC 3

I have a theory you could pursue in using your powers to detect synths. While you have a blood flow, does your heart beat like a human heart, or is it more like a water pump, always moving at a steady flow rate? Since you can hear heartbeats well enough to single one out, you could also theoretically determine someone doesn't have one, or has something that doesn't sound correct, like a completely steady rate, or even an exact 60 bpm. Another angle could be the servos they use, while too quiet for normal human ears, but yours could pick up that subtle whine they do, unless they have fully synthetic muscle, which would sound similar enough to a normal person.

Just some spitballing based on what you've already done versus human targets, though super hearing is definitely an avenue most designers wouldn't think of. If it fools normal range, it's usually enough to fool 90% of the people it's up against.
Runa
player, 460 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 9 Sep 2023
at 02:20
  • msg #846

Re: OOC 3

Hey team, I'm glad to see us working together to solve a problem but is it possible we are over thinking this?

What I mean is, the GM has all our character sheets. Therefore this adventure should be designed in such a way that at least one of us, more likely multiple ones for redundancy factor, has the means to solve it or if not, the means will be provided by the GM.

I'm just worried we are getting worked up and stressed out unnecessarily.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:34, Sat 09 Sept 2023.
Paragon
player, 100 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sat 9 Sep 2023
at 02:30
  • msg #847

Re: OOC 3

If I stepped on toes, forgive. Paragon naturally takes charge, but is more than willing to defer to someone else.
SSOGM
GM, 1037 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 9 Sep 2023
at 03:01
  • msg #848

Re: OOC 3

Psionics can tell the difference. Any character with chi mastery can tell the difference. There are other ways, as well. In ALL cases, the sensing will be active, not passive. By this I mean the character will have to spend an action attempting to answer the question. What won't be possible is something that goes 'ding, ding, ding' and points at the android in the midst of the humans.
Paragon
player, 102 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 08:42
  • msg #849

Re: OOC 3

The weather started getting rough
The tiny ship was tossed
If not for the courage of the fearless crew
The minow would be lost...
Senor Garcia
player, 317 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 09:07
  • msg #850

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
The weather started getting rough
The tiny ship was tossed
If not for the courage of the fearless crew
The minow would be lost...


Well, it was either reference Star Trek (aired from 1966-1969) or Giligan's Island (aired from 1964 to 1966).

Both would have been shows that a teenage Senor Garcia saw as there were only four TV stations at the time (plus PBS!). Since his avatar and the fact that he is an augmented human is an obvious reference to Star Trek, I went with Giligan's Island.
Psi-Bird
player, 10 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP36, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 10:42
  • msg #851

Re: OOC 3

Not posting again until Spymaster has has his chance to post... as per my declared change in posting habits.
SSOGM
GM, 1041 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 13:01
  • msg #852

Re: OOC 3

Senor Garcia:
Paragon:
The weather started getting rough
The tiny ship was tossed
If not for the courage of the fearless crew
The minow would be lost...


Well, it was either reference Star Trek (aired from 1966-1969) or Giligan's Island (aired from 1964 to 1966).

Both would have been shows that a teenage Senor Garcia saw as there were only four TV stations at the time (plus PBS!). Since his avatar and the fact that he is an augmented human is an obvious reference to Star Trek, I went with Giligan's Island.

Señor Garcia was lucky, we had four stations including PBS.
Runa
player, 464 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 13:13
  • msg #853

Re: OOC 3

I don't know how many stations we had growing up but it didn't really matter. In the afternoon, after school, I couldn't have the TV because grandma was watching her soaps. When grandpa got home it got changed to the news, then wheel of fortune, then Cheers or MASH.

On Saturday though! That was my time! I got to watch cartoons...until I got thrown outside to play and stay out.
Chimp Man Z
player, 958 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 13:15
  • msg #854

Re: OOC 3

ABC, CBS, NBC, 1 PBS, 1 Educational, and 1 Independent.
JUSTICAR
player, 1518 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 13:17
  • msg #855

Re: OOC 3

ABC '6', CBS '8', NBC '13', WTTV '4', PBS '20', 40???, WIXN 59 "shrug"... then we got cable and a whole crapton of choices on the slider...
Winter Herald
player, 671 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 13:34
  • msg #856

Re: OOC 3

For me, it was 2, 4, 5, sometimes 8, occasionally 3 would try to come in, but we never figured out what the hell it was supposed to be. 17 was weak, and I think on a lark we discovered 22 but it was also bad in reception.

So, I was fairly familiar with ABC, NBC, CBS, and to a lesser degree PBS. Cable and an actual array of channels came much later. This is partly because my home region is resistant to tower signals - only landlines or an outright satellite get signals where I used to live.
SSOGM
GM, 1042 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 13:48
  • msg #857

Re: OOC 3

Yep. Cable was almost as big a deal as when we could finally see it in color.
Senor Garcia
player, 318 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 15:26
  • msg #858

Re: OOC 3

Had no TV for about three years unless I went to a friends house.
Paragon
player, 103 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #859

Re: OOC 3

I had to walk 10 miles up hill in the snow with no shoes just to listen to a radio.

:-p
Chimp Man Z
player, 959 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 17:28
  • msg #860

Re: OOC 3

I had to pull myself up the side of a steep mountain using sapling trees while wearing a heavy backpack just to see a sunset.
(Okay, I was a Boy Scout, and we were at Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico....)
This message was last edited by the player at 17:28, Sun 10 Sept 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 672 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 17:45
  • msg #861

Re: OOC 3

I was talking about just being poor. I had color TV. Most of the time. Messing with rabbit ears and a roof antennae were just part of the life. Satellite eliminated most of the roof climbing, unless a nasty storm came along and knocked it out completely, and it also removed the use for rabbit ears - after that, when something went wrong, you just rolled your eyes and blamed the satellite. And the signal eating location I used to live got blamed, too. It's one of those places modern horror writers love, because it knocks out cell phone reception.

Banjo: bow dow-dow dow dow-dow dow dow-dow dow
Runa
player, 465 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 17:53
  • msg #862

Re: OOC 3

The level of poor I was raised on:
Brick of Government Cheese
Powdered milk
Box of government corn flakes
Food stamps
Eat school reduced breakfast and lunch or else don't eat until dinner

Since the topic went from TV channels to level of poverty...
Chimp Man Z
player, 960 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 18:06
  • msg #863

Re: OOC 3

I remember getting some of these rather well as kid, and as an adult for a time:
Brick of Government Cheese-We got this in that plain brown cardboard box.  It was not bad, melted well enough, and made for nice, thick slices.
Powdered milk-yuck.  It's useful for other, though.
Box of government corn flakes-No real change other than packaging.
Food stamps-Okay, we did not have these as kids
Eat school reduced breakfast and lunch or else don't eat until dinner-It being free or reduced certainly did not make it taste any better.  I remember that even the cockroaches at my schools avoided the pizza.
"Hand-Me-Down" clothes-I think everybody probably did this.
Runa
player, 466 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 18:10
  • msg #864

Re: OOC 3

Yah it took me a while to catch on to the food stamps. I just thought my mom somehow, by random chance, always got the funny colored money instead of the usual green. Eventually I learned what they were. It's not like there is a class in kindergarten explaining food stamps or how you are poor enough to qualify for government funded breakfast and lunch. Its just the way things are and you pay more attention to other things, like playing with cousins and friends.
Senor Garcia
player, 319 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 18:29
  • msg #865

Re: OOC 3

Didn't plan on taking us down this route.....

We were living next to some railroad tracks in our 24-foot-long motor home, and while we did get food from the food share, we couldn't get food stamps because we had no physical address. This was Oregon in the 1990's.

My brother and I found a pond on the other side of the railroad tunnel, so after the morning train passed, we would go to the pond, catch 2 or three fish then after the afternoon train passed, we'd head back. We eventually caught all the fish in that pond...

Later when we lived next to the Siuslaw river we'd catch clams, and fish the river.


For better or worse, living in poverty as makes you a more resilient person when times do get tough later on down the road.
Chimp Man Z
player, 961 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 19:49
  • msg #866

Re: OOC 3

Yep.  As Gen X, I am more appreciative of what I have, and less picky an eater, than my own kids.  I love them, but they can be such entitled little shits.
SSOGM
GM, 1044 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 19:55
  • msg #867

Re: OOC 3

We weren't poor, most people just didn't have color televisions till the seventies. I'm just a bit old with memories from when I was very young. Still, it would've been nice to see Apollo 11 in color.
Winter Herald
player, 673 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 20:56
  • msg #868

Re: OOC 3

I am the only member of the family I chose to have grown up with genuine poverty and madness, and I'd like to keep it that way, if it is all the same to the universe. But it is interesting to see how common this situation is.
Spymaster
player, 73 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 21:23
  • msg #869

Re: OOC 3

As for the ongoing conversation, I grew up just above the poverty line, we weren't going to Disney every year like some kids I knew, but we did usually do minor trips, like going to a campground for a week, or heading to the Wisconsin Dells, and we lived on generic brands for a while (except Count Chocula, never compromise on the Count) we didn't get Cable until I was 12/13 I want to say, but we had a color tv, and about 6-8 channels (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, UPN, WGN, PBS, and there might have been another Chicago local). Other kids had the designer clothes, we had Wal/K-mart clothes, because they did well enough, and I had hand me downs from my brother, as all people did.
Chimp Man Z
player, 962 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 22:06
  • msg #870

Re: OOC 3

My mother one made me a denim outfit:  a blue jean jacket and bell-bottoms.  Hey, it was the 70s....
Paragon
player, 104 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 22:36
  • msg #871

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
We weren't poor, most people just didn't have color televisions till the seventies. I'm just a bit old with memories from when I was very young. Still, it would've been nice to see Apollo 11 in color.

Apollo 11 was in black and white so people would think they were looking at the moon instead of a Holliwood set.
Runa
player, 467 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 23:54
  • msg #872

Re: OOC 3

Army is being stupid(er) so I won't post IC until late tonight.
SSOGM
GM, 1045 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 10 Sep 2023
at 23:55
  • msg #873

Re: OOC 3

Most people saw Apollo 11 in black and white because most people had black and white sets. They made a big deal out of the color camera they used, because it was so small. I remember it clearly, because I couldn't figure out why the one they used on the moon was the size of loaf of bread when the ones you occasionally saw on Corky's Colorama were bigger than the cameramen.
Winter Herald
player, 674 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 11 Sep 2023
at 00:02
  • msg #874

Re: OOC 3

Well, I offer this to debunk the idea the landing was a fraud: the USSR's response to the news. It was not, "You are lying liars who lie, who are also Western capitalist pigdogs." It was "See you on the dark side," because it was further away, and the whole point of the program was who could launch a missile with a group of people farther away.

By that point, no one in the USA cared about why we started - we got someone on the Moon first, neener neener.

But a foe's reaction is often a good metric for the truth of success, especially if they are either surprised by it, or had been expecting it for some time.
Chimp Man Z
player, 963 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 11 Sep 2023
at 01:01
  • msg #875

Re: OOC 3

That, and the fact it would take a wall full of 1000+ lasers to replicate the lighting effect of the moon, a technology that was not possible them.
Senor Garcia
player, 320 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Mon 11 Sep 2023
at 02:02
  • msg #876

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Army is being stupid(er) so I won't post IC until late tonight.

The ‘stupid(er)’ aspect is one thing I don’t miss about the US Marine Corps.

On the subject of the moon landing: https://youtu.be/yDyJe1nmSOM?si=n2dFBx9p7rqLfG3r
Chimp Man Z
player, 964 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Mon 11 Sep 2023
at 04:50
  • msg #877

Re: OOC 3

Spymaster:
Soymaster just got hit with the one thing he really hated, telepathy.

Oh, now we have to start calling him Soymaster, the Teriyaki King.
Winter Herald
player, 675 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 11 Sep 2023
at 05:08
  • msg #878

Re: OOC 3

Careful. Condiment King is the one guy the extended Bat-Family draws straws to deal with - loser has to deal with them. Not because they are any more dangerous than the rest of Batman's Rogues Gallery, but because they gunk up the suit and gear with their really stupid and insane gimmick, and it takes forever to clean off. Soymaster could be far more irritating or dangerous than their power suggests.
Chimp Man Z
player, 965 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 03:42
  • msg #879

Re: OOC 3

Waiting on Drifter and Captain Justice.
Winter Herald
player, 676 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 03:52
  • msg #880

Re: OOC 3

In an admittedly unusual move, I'm waiting for Garcia.
Senor Garcia
player, 321 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 04:11
  • msg #881

Re: OOC 3

I’m pretty burnt out from work today. Spent 10+ hours in front of the CPU.

Will work on a post tomorrow.
Paragon
player, 106 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 15:05
  • msg #882

Re: OOC 3

It might be Portuguese, hard to tell.
Paragon
player, 107 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 17:12
  • msg #883

Re: OOC 3

GM I do not believe Capt Justice has access to the trouble thread.
Captain Justice
player, 76 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 17:20
  • msg #884

Re: OOC 3

There is a Trouble Thread?
SSOGM
GM, 1047 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 18:47
  • msg #885

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Paragon (msg # 883):

Captain Justice went to the boat, it was a miscommunication to suggest he was in the trouble thread.
Paragon
player, 108 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 18:54
  • msg #886

Re: OOC 3

Ahh okay.
Psi-Bird
player, 12 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP36, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 18:57
  • msg #887

Re: OOC 3

Opps! I didn't know Captain Justice was still at the boat... or Psi-Bird would have spoke to him... Sorry Captain J.. didn't mean to be unsociable!  I too thought you had gone through the portal with CMZ, Paragon, And Drifter...
Captain Justice
player, 77 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 19:01
  • msg #888

Re: OOC 3

*breath in*
*breath out*

It's ok. I didn't know I was on the boat too.
I guess I am on the boat.
I did make a mistake and didn't notice the change in the subject line.
But I did edit it like you asked.

Oh well. I will go back and edit my posts so that it make sense that I am on the boat.
Runa
player, 470 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 19:12
  • msg #889

Re: OOC 3

Psi-Bird:
Opps! I didn't know Captain Justice was still at the boat... or Psi-Bird would have spoke to him... Sorry Captain J.. didn't mean to be unsociable!  I too thought you had gone through the portal with CMZ, Paragon, And Drifter...

Same, I thought you went through that portal.

[Private to Psi-Bird: Speaking of interacting though, with Psibird and Lilibeth below decks and away from the other PCs, Lilibeth is just waiting on Psibird to post next. If they were with other PCs, of course we would want everyone to have a chance to post before posting again. ]
Chimp Man Z
player, 968 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 19:20
  • msg #890

Re: OOC 3

As did I.
Captain Justice
player, 78 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 19:26
  • msg #891

Re: OOC 3

Well. I'm on the boat now. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Runa
player, 471 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 19:52
  • msg #892

Re: OOC 3

Captain Justice:
Well. I'm on the boat now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

No worries. Stuff happens.
Captain Justice
player, 79 posts
There is No Need to Fear
HP: 43/43 SDC: 163/163
Tue 12 Sep 2023
at 20:59
  • msg #893

Re: OOC 3

Finished editing.  Hopefully  it makes enough sense.
Senor Garcia
player, 323 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Sat 16 Sep 2023
at 20:10
  • msg #894

Re: OOC 3

Got a post up, was pretty busy with work this week, and will be busy next week too.

Also, what thread is the Shadowhawk stats in? I may not have access to it.
Winter Herald
player, 679 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 16 Sep 2023
at 20:21
  • msg #895

Re: OOC 3

link to a message in this game

Should be here, further down the page.
JUSTICAR
player, 1522 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Sat 16 Sep 2023
at 22:22
  • msg #896

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 894):

The Shadowhawk's stats are at MSG #5 of the threat Winter Posted.
Senor Garcia
player, 326 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 20 Sep 2023
at 12:16
  • msg #897

Re: OOC 3

Thank for pointing out the stats location.

I got a quick and dirty post up. I probably won’t be able to post again until Saturday.
Winter Herald
player, 682 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 23 Sep 2023
at 20:00
  • msg #898

Re: OOC 3

I'm going to interpret the lack of response as "no, there is no abnormal activity under the boat." If my action seems "paranoid", I'd like to point out a recent event: the Senator who was attacked by a teleporting man armed with a gun specifically designed to destroy them, while we are dealing with literal androids masquerading as human. Understand these things exist in this setting, and then come back to me and tell me what the difference is between caution and paranoia.

I'll wait for what will unquestionably be a well-reasoned and logical response.
Paragon
player, 113 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sat 23 Sep 2023
at 20:34
  • msg #899

Re: OOC 3

paranoia paranoia everybody's coming to get me...
SSOGM
GM, 1059 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 23 Sep 2023
at 21:22
  • msg #900

Re: OOC 3

Winter Herald:
I'm going to interpret the lack of response as "no, there is no abnormal activity under the boat." If my action seems "paranoid", I'd like to point out a recent event: the Senator who was attacked by a teleporting man armed with a gun specifically designed to destroy them, while we are dealing with literal androids masquerading as human. Understand these things exist in this setting, and then come back to me and tell me what the difference is between caution and paranoia.

I'll wait for what will unquestionably be a well-reasoned and logical response.

That's an appropriate interpretation, sorry I didn't get a more definite response in. RL has been more difficult lately, I swear God just shoved the 'people are stupid' slider all the way to the end.
Winter Herald
player, 684 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 23 Sep 2023
at 21:49
  • msg #901

Re: OOC 3

It's been a steady slide, acerbated by the Corona that went around in 2020. The percentage of drivers that were bad went up from about one in three to fifty percent, because all of the decent drivers had enough money or pull to get a work from home job, while stiffs like me had to share the road with stiffs that think the transit to and from work is the best opportunity to show of their mad NASCAR skillz and become the next "Intimidator."

It hasn't reversed itself, either.

Also, I did notice after the fact that, yes, a card was handed to Garcia in the thread, implying that my favorite person to be suspicious about was in range to hand a card to one of our crew, meaning he was already aboard. He's not blowing the boat up with himself on it, unless he is a machine. The presumption I had was that he was delaying boarding and delaying interactions with us, which combined with the skip in my observation caused me to assume he was up to something that required time. My brain immediately went to "aquatic demolition job," with the intention that as soon as we had distance between us, he'd blow up our boat.

We'd still get where we were going one way or another, I have little doubt, but our position would be weakened considerably. And yes, a torpedo would be more efficient than deception and SCUBA demo work. I'm probably just getting rather used to flourishes.

I erred, but I'm sticking with it.
JUSTICAR
player, 1525 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Sat 23 Sep 2023
at 22:29
  • msg #902

Re: OOC 3

Hahaha! Your good Winter!  Your only being paranoid... until your not being paranoid Enough!  All good reasons to be wary AND you did your best to account for what could be a real threat..without alerting or alarming everyone else!  So.. in my book you did well and what you needed to do.. no foul and no criticism from me for following your gut!

Now its MY turn to be a paranoid over-thinker!
Psi-Bird
player, 20 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP36, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Sun 24 Sep 2023
at 17:22
  • msg #903

Re: OOC 3

Been pondering an action I wanted to take with Psi-Bird and decided to go with it...

So I modified the tail end of her last post.

... talk about paranoia.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:24, Sun 24 Sept 2023.
Winter Herald
player, 686 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 29 Sep 2023
at 10:45
  • msg #904

Re: OOC 3

I am confused. Is Drifter now on the Shadowhawk? Is his disembodied voice coming from the air?

I was mostly holding off in case someone else had something to add. Because I do have a few things to say. I'm just seeing if someone beats me to it.
Psi-Bird
player, 22 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP36, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Fri 29 Sep 2023
at 13:23
  • msg #905

Re: OOC 3

Same, as always, I expected Psi-Bird's position would be taken in the most extreme way possible she will clarify her position once others have had a chance to say something but keep in mind exactly what she said she is not anti-technology!  Nor is she anti-robot, she just feels robot's should not be fighting human made wars.

I do not know why Drifter would even be aware of our conversation he is not here? I don't know why he can even 'see' our thread we certainly cannot see their thread in Chinilaya?
Runa
player, 476 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 29 Sep 2023
at 15:12
  • msg #906

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Psi-Bird (msg # 905):

I'm hoping to reply this morning.
SSOGM
GM, 1063 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 29 Sep 2023
at 17:59
  • msg #907

Re: OOC 3

Drifter wasn't on the boat[Private to Drifter: he could interact with those on the boat through a few of his abilities, but that would have to be done with some preparation and forethought as the GM has the threads actually separated by a day or two].
I've removed Drifter's post as it wasn't possible.
Senor Garcia
player, 327 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 4 Oct 2023
at 16:31
  • msg #908

Re: OOC 3

Sorry I have been absent, I had to make an unexpected trip out of the country, and just got back this morning.
SSOGM
GM, 1072 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 03:36
  • msg #909

Re: OOC 3

So, how'd I do?
Winter Herald
player, 690 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 06:16
  • msg #910

Re: OOC 3

I dunno. No context.

All I know is that in the thread I am in, I'm waiting for more people before I say something again. Too soon.
Senor Garcia
player, 329 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 14:33
  • msg #911

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
So, how'd I do?

Kinda hard to know WTF is going on with Drifter.

GM posts Drifter shouldn’t be posting but yet drifter’s player is still posting in the thread.
Paragon
player, 118 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 14:40
  • msg #912

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 911):

On our side he opemed a small rift to communicate. I don't think he can be seen, only heard by your side. His version of a cellphone call.
Runa
player, 478 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 14:55
  • msg #913

Re: OOC 3

Paragon:
In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 911):

On our side he opemed a small rift to communicate. I don't think he can be seen, only heard by your side. His version of a cellphone call.

Yes but then he posted he wrapped his arm around the Lieutenant. So it would seem he is there.
Paragon
player, 119 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 14:57
  • msg #914

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Runa (msg # 913):

Oh. Well...uh...
Psi-Bird
player, 27 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP36, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 15:10
  • msg #915

Re: OOC 3

Yeah. There is no doubt Drifter has the ability to open portals for transport or communication... the issue is the seeming omniscience to even know a conversation is going on and or the location of the other team when we are no longer at the marina.. so how did he know where we were or that we were even having a conversation ~ to even open a portal?
This message was last edited by the player at 15:11, Fri 06 Oct 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 979 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 16:32
  • msg #916

Re: OOC 3

Especially since we are ahead of your team on the timeline.
Runa
player, 479 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 16:46
  • msg #917

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
Especially since we are ahead of your team on the timeline.

Yup.
Paragon
player, 120 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 16:48
  • msg #918

Re: OOC 3

Because he us Dr. Freakin Who!
SSOGM
GM, 1073 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 17:37
  • msg #919

Re: OOC 3

Oh. So NOW we're figuring out what sort of power Drifter the Shifter has. The emphasis in the following quote is mine, but the rest is verbatim from the OCC's write-up.
Rifts Main Ultimate Edition, 2nd Edition, page 122:
Note: If the Communication Rift is a complete success (rolls percentile under the success ratio), the Rift transcends space and time to open an unlimited number of miles away to a specific location on the same world, a different world, or another dimension.

Runa
player, 480 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 17:50
  • msg #920

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Oh. So NOW we're figuring out what sort of power Drifter the Shifter has. The emphasis in the following quote is mine, but the rest is verbatim from the OCC's write-up.
Rifts Main Ultimate Edition, 2nd Edition, page 122:
Note: If the Communication Rift is a complete success (rolls percentile under the success ratio), the Rift transcends space and time to open an unlimited number of miles away to a specific location on the same world, a different world, or another dimension.

Does that include reaching through the Rift with your arm?

And if that is the interpretation, that a communication Rift can in fact, cross not just SpaceTime but just Time, that is a dangerous power. You've just established that, from now on, any trouble the PCs get into, can easily be negated by Drifter opening a communication Rift to the past by a few hours and warn the party not to do X or to do X.
JUSTICAR
player, 1530 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 18:22
  • msg #921

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Oh. So NOW we're figuring out what sort of power Drifter the Shifter has. The emphasis in the following quote is mine, but the rest is verbatim from the OCC's write-up.
Rifts Main Ultimate Edition, 2nd Edition, page 122:
Note: If the Communication Rift is a complete success (rolls percentile under the success ratio), the Rift transcends space and time to open an unlimited number of miles away to a specific location on the same world, a different world, or another dimension.


Wow.  I guess that IS omniescience.  That's really powerful.  Is communication ALL that can be used for? Cause that could get out of hand...
This message was last edited by the player at 18:24, Fri 06 Oct 2023.
Chimp Man Z
player, 980 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 18:43
  • msg #922

Re: OOC 3

You could use it to tell them where you have hidden something that they may need.  Or, you could communicate with the past to tell your past selves something they will need to know, thereby altering the timeline.  Gives us the chance for a Re-Do.
Runa
player, 481 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 19:10
  • msg #923

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
You could use it to tell them where you have hidden something that they may need.  Or, you could communicate with the past to tell your past selves something they will need to know, thereby altering the timeline.  Gives us the chance for a Re-Do.

See my post above ^_^

That'd exactly what it means. Worse, it means the Bad Guys can do it too. Time travel in games, even if it's "only" communication, gets real messy, real fast.
Winter Herald
player, 691 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 20:24
  • msg #924

Re: OOC 3

In another roleplaying game made by the whipping boy of the RPG community, White Wolf, the power to manipulate time wasn't "temporal manipulation" per se. Like McDonald's making hamburgers, that's what they do, not how they make money. McDonald's makes money from real estate.

Temporal manipulation is communion with the GM. Executed properly, and you gently parse out the limits of your own power within the game you are in. You accept it will not work the same way twice, particularly if the GM is different.

Mess it up, and you retcon yourself. It's more like being a priest than a wizard. You are asking permission of the cosmos rather than asserting it.

When NPCs use this kind of power, it is smoother and more efficient because they are already the tools of the GM. They are already fully in their power, and have no will or existence beyond the GM. They do not need to ask permission as we do, because it is implicitly granted by virtue of the GM having them do it.

PCs don't roll like this. We have to ask.

So, it is possible that in the Heroes Universe, the past is truly an insurmountable wall, and the best you can do is create another universe where you altered the past at a critical point. Or perhaps the attempt to go back simply makes you effectively deader than dead, or all energies and information shot into the past are converted into cosmic energy and dispersed. Or it could work as it sounds like.

All of this is what it is to mess with time in an RPG format. It's both extremely powerful and extremely limited at the same time.
SSOGM
GM, 1074 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 20:56
  • msg #925

Re: OOC 3

The power used in this case is a communication rift. Nothing else can get through it. Most of what happened was GM fiat. There are certain areas within rpg's where story  and convenience trumps mechanics and PC personalities. This is one such area.
JUSTICAR
player, 1531 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 20:56
  • msg #926

Re: OOC 3

I'm not saying that the Shifter ability to communicate across space and time unerringly is a game destroyer... just that is VERY powerful.. and the GM should very carefully allow or more importantly disallow its use .. on a case-by-case situational circumstances or it could destroy the game coherancy.

I've run games where a player had legitimate time manipulation abilities... it was a challenge to keep them in scope with the plot and the rest of the players but it CAN be done.

Palladium is NOT and has NEVER BEEN about Game balance... it takes a GM with a clear mind as to what elements of plot and story flow to keep things in perspective...

Good luck with that SSOGM.  RAW 'Rules as Written'... I totally see why SSOGM has the interpretation of the shifter ability he has taken.. its valid in my opinion... just really powerful.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:57, Fri 06 Oct 2023.
Runa
player, 482 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 21:00
  • msg #927

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
The power used in this case is a communication rift. Nothing else can get through it. Most of what happened was GM fiat. There are certain areas within rpg's where story  and convenience trumps mechanics and PC personalities. This is one such area.

OK so are you saying that going forward, that power does indeed give effective time travel to the user? That they can open a communication portal to the past? What about the future?
Senor Garcia
player, 330 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Fri 6 Oct 2023
at 23:34
  • msg #928

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
Palladium is NOT and has NEVER BEEN about Game balance...


It can be if you fix a lot of stuff....
SSOGM
GM, 1075 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 01:55
  • msg #929

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
SSOGM:
The power used in this case is a communication rift. Nothing else can get through it. Most of what happened was GM fiat. There are certain areas within rpg's where story  and convenience trumps mechanics and PC personalities. This is one such area.

OK so are you saying that going forward, that power does indeed give effective time travel to the user? That they can open a communication portal to the past? What about the future?

Sort of, mostly when the GM wants it to it can transcend time and space. There are other possibilities, for instance, the same sort of portal was opened to speak with and eventually call forth the anjana.
For those of you that haven't met it yet, the anjana is the size of a barbie doll and...

Chimp Man Z
player, 981 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 01:57
  • msg #930

Re: OOC 3

I had a friend who ran Rifts as a SDC game.
Runa
player, 483 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 02:26
  • msg #931

Re: OOC 3

OK so if I understand you correctly GM, you will allow that power to be used foe time travel when you want it. So it's not something we or the PCs can ever plan for. Is that correct?

And what's this about Anjana? Have we seen them in this game and I just haven't noticed? Or was it before my joining?
Chimp Man Z
player, 982 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 03:09
  • msg #932

Re: OOC 3

There's one with CMZ, Paragon, and The Drifter.  He summoned her.
Runa
player, 484 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 03:34
  • msg #933

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
There's one with CMZ, Paragon, and The Drifter.  He summoned her.

He as in Drifter? And did you mean three total summoned? And no PC thought to mention there existence to the rest of the team? Some of whom are, to put it mildly, are suffering from paranoia?
SSOGM
GM, 1076 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 03:41
  • msg #934

Re: OOC 3

Drifter's Communication Rift allows communication between two points in transdimensional space time. When the GM allows it this will include two different space times on the same planet.
When Drifter uses the Communication Rift to speak with entities from other dimensions, it's possible to convince some of these entities to join and serve him. Which is where the anjana came from. Drifter has a fairly high level skill called Lore: Faerie so he knows which faeries are which and a fairly high MA which makes the convincing easier.
Runa
player, 485 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 03:57
  • msg #935

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
Drifter's Communication Rift allows communication between two points in transdimensional space time. When the GM allows it this will include two different space times on the same planet.
When Drifter uses the Communication Rift to speak with entities from other dimensions, it's possible to convince some of these entities to join and serve him. Which is where the anjana came from. Drifter has a fairly high level skill called Lore: Faerie so he knows which faeries are which and a fairly high MA which makes the convincing easier.


OK that explains some stuff. Thanks GM.
Winter Herald
player, 692 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 04:00
  • msg #936

Re: OOC 3

Well, mostly, as long as Drifter is here chatting it up, Winter Herald was going to coordinate with that team, if possible. As long as we have a secure line, that could be quite handy.
Paragon
player, 121 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 06:07
  • msg #937

Re: OOC 3

Runa:
Chimp Man Z:
There's one with CMZ, Paragon, and The Drifter.  He summoned her.

He as in Drifter? And did you mean three total summoned? And no PC thought to mention there existence to the rest of the team? Some of whom are, to put it mildly, are suffering from paranoia?


Pronoia darling. Universe loves me, not out to get me. ;->
SSOGM
GM, 1081 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 16:50
  • msg #938

Re: OOC 3

I begin to regret this communication rift. It's forces me to do so much more posting.
JUSTICAR
player, 1532 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Sat 7 Oct 2023
at 18:49
  • msg #939

Re: OOC 3

In reply to SSOGM (msg # 938):

'Snort'  :)
Senor Garcia
player, 331 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Tue 10 Oct 2023
at 03:16
  • msg #940

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
I begin to regret this communication rift. It's forces me to do so much more posting.


Not to be an ass, but sometimes the GM digs a hole they have to deal with (been there and done that...).
Chimp Man Z
player, 985 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Tue 10 Oct 2023
at 06:45
  • msg #941

Re: OOC 3

LOL  Yeah, that'll become annoying quickly.
Winter Herald
player, 694 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 10 Oct 2023
at 06:57
  • msg #942

Re: OOC 3

Eh. The Comms aren't as disruptive as you might think. Watching the expectations of communication around RPGs and media evolve has been a fascinating journey. Totally Sarcastic covered this subject in one of their videos - its just now taken for granted that a group should have the means to quickly and easily communicate with each other, when in Ye Olden Times, being cut off from each other when physically separated was the norm.
SSOGM
GM, 1086 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Tue 10 Oct 2023
at 11:27
  • msg #943

Re: OOC 3

It's more than the comms, there's a lot of pieces on the board in two different times. But that should be resolved soon.
SSOGM
GM, 1087 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 12 Oct 2023
at 04:03
  • msg #944

Re: OOC 3

RL has reared its tediously mundane head. I'll be back tomorrow.
Winter Herald
player, 696 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Fri 13 Oct 2023
at 03:41
  • msg #945

Re: OOC 3

I will consider that a post from Paragon rather than a GM post or an "enough people have posted" post.
SSOGM
GM, 1093 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sun 15 Oct 2023
at 16:23
  • msg #946

Re: OOC 3

Ok, I think that's enough cross-thread comms.
Winter Herald
player, 698 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Mon 23 Oct 2023
at 11:41
  • msg #947

Re: OOC 3

Been a bit from me, but I should post later today.
Winter Herald
player, 701 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Tue 31 Oct 2023
at 06:14
  • msg #948

Re: OOC 3

Lilibeth could bring that up to him. Winter Herald's actually not sure if Runa is what she says she is, although what she is capable of is certainly real enough. He's not sure if she's got some form of mental block on her power, or if she is indeed possessed by a pseudo-immaterial being.

Just because I know this stuff doesn't mean he's processed it. He's still trying to figure out what magic's limits are, because his first encounter with Goliat and that perfect invisibility shook him rather deeply. This was also one of his first real experiences with the superhero world.
Senor Garcia
player, 334 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 15:32
  • msg #949

Re: OOC 3

I would like to just point out that the basic operation of a semi auto rifle, bolt action rifle and sub machine gun are all the same.

Thus there’s no real reason for a separate WP for semi automatic rifles and Sub machine guns other then the fact that the writes of the RPG book never handled said weapons.

Case in point as a trained basic rifleman in the USMC (I wasn’t a grunt, but close to it) it took all of 5 minutes to explain to me how an Uzi works and fires from an open bolt as opposed to a closed bolt on an M-16 or M-4. After shooting some paper targets we cleared a shitty half burned down mansion the Tanzanian army used for CQB training with live ammo and using Uzi’s instead of M-4’s, and Remington 870 shotguns.

Years later my uncle handed me a German Mauser from WWII and it took about five minutes to figure out out that weapon worked.

So I think Winter Hereald will be just fine using an Uzi.

Senor Garcia does have two auto rifles tho. One for CQB, and the other while meant as a sniper rifle could be used as a battle rifle as well. Old geezer can’t/won’t carry both of them and he won’t mind sharing.
SSOGM
GM, 1101 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 19:53
  • msg #950

Re: OOC 3

To be honest, the weapon proficiencies appear to be a kludge. Look at ancient ranged weapons across the books and you'll find version 1 had one WP for any ancient ranged weapon (W.P. Targeting).
Version 2 has W.P. Archery and Targeting, W.P. Throwing Weapons (small), and W.P. Targeting (Throwing/Missile Weapons).
Senor Garcia
player, 336 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 20:02
  • msg #951

Re: OOC 3

SSOGM:
To be honest, the weapon proficiencies appear to be a kludge. Look at ancient ranged weapons across the books and you'll find version 1 had one WP for any ancient ranged weapon (W.P. Targeting).
Version 2 has W.P. Archery and Targeting, W.P. Throwing Weapons (small), and W.P. Targeting (Throwing/Missile Weapons).

I can understand why the 1st Edition versions of the WPs could be wonky. But you would think that for a 2nd Edition (that’s 1998 for Hero’s Unlimited) maybe more research could have been done because by that time we had the internet.
Winter Herald
player, 703 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 20:28
  • msg #952

Re: OOC 3

Honestly, I'm fine with the weirdness. If you want to give it to me for free, or houserule that WP away in place of Automatic Rifle, you can do that. If you want to change nothing, that's cool. Changes mean I alter my text, which can be done quickly, and no change means I don't.

To be honest, I've noticed the various Archery and Targeting skills. Some of them stack, which I didn't feel was an accident. Knife and (in a moment of oddly having done research) Sword both also play nice with one of those Weapon Proficiencies.
JUSTICAR
player, 1542 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 20:39
  • msg #953

Re: OOC 3

Hmmm... I never pondered that overlaping Weapon proficiencies might stack their bonuses!  Interesting...
This message was last updated by the player at 20:39, Wed 01 Nov 2023.
Psi-Bird
player, 34 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP36, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 20:40
  • msg #954

Re: OOC 3

I'm holding off posting a reply to give Runa and Captain Justice a chance to post.
Senor Garcia
player, 337 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 21:06
  • msg #955

Re: OOC 3

JUSTICAR:
Hmmm... I never pondered that overlaping Weapon proficiencies might stack their bonuses!  Interesting...

Targeting is one WP that does/should add to the throwing strike of other WP’s provided the weapon is MEANT to be thrown.

For example if you have WP Knife and Targeting then targeting bonuses adds to your thrown knife strike.

Spear is an example where it depends on the weapon if targeting should be factored in. If you have a javelin which is meant to be thrown the answer is yes. If you have a rifle with a bayonet attached (yes it’s a spear!) then the answer is no because that kind of spear is not meant to be thrown, as it is not aerodynamic.
JUSTICAR
player, 1543 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 21:13
  • msg #956

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 955):

That makes perfect sense...
Senor Garcia
player, 338 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Wed 1 Nov 2023
at 22:32
  • msg #957

Re: OOC 3

In reply to JUSTICAR (msg # 956):

Not sure where I have it (maybe in my dead N&SS game here on RPOL) but I even have all the WP’s you should have to use the ninja specific weapons (of which there is not a WP listed in the book). Basically I researched how each weapon was used and went “Ok you need WP Chain, and WP Axe for that”. This meant a full blown ninja had just about every ancient WP.
Runa
player, 487 posts
HP 30, SDC 47
PB14, MA 18
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 00:43
  • msg #958

Re: OOC 3

Hi, super busy today and not feeling great. Killer sinus headache. Yah burn pits.

I think the root problem here is applying logic to Palladium. It can't be done with any consistency. The fundamentals of Marksmanship are the same, ad Garcia pointed out. There is no difference between aiming and firing a bolt action rifle or a semi-auto rifle: sight alignment, sight picture, breath control, trigger control. Stance if applicable.

This ties into the general mess Palladium has made of its skill system. For myself, there are just way too damn many skills. If I had it my way, the skill categories would be the skills.

In this instance, it would be Ranged Weapon as the base skill, then Firearm ad the next level specialty before finally reaching the top tier specialty of Uzi. Base skill gives X% to all Ranged Weapons, Firearms adds Y% to the base, Uzi adds a final bonus.

This applies to all skills.
Chimp Man Z
player, 989 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 01:30
  • msg #959

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 957):

Actually, the Ninjutsu Martial Art Form gives a very large variety of Ancient Weapon Proficiencies.
Winter Herald
player, 704 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 01:55
  • msg #960

Re: OOC 3

I did come up with a homebrew system for dealing with skill bloat, but that was mostly because some skills are - put simply - more useful than others. That said, it's homebrew, and would honestly be a pain to implement mid-game.

It did occur to me that I'd be surprised if Runa might not be as reserved as Lilibeth is on Winter Herald's viewpoint. Then again, her reaction to the idea that Winter Herald thinks she might be someone else's alternative personality would probably go over like a lead balloon. Winter Herald is materialistic to a fault, although he would certainly be open to concepts like "extraterrestrial" or "alternative dimension."

Also, "thousand post limit" and all that jazz.
Senor Garcia
player, 339 posts
Retiree (MA: 22)
HP: 85 SDC: 188/183
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 02:18
  • msg #961

Re: OOC 3

Chimp Man Z:
In reply to Senor Garcia (msg # 957):

Actually, the Ninjutsu Martial Art Form gives a very large variety of Ancient Weapon Proficiencies.

Yeah but IIRC it doesn’t really say what ninja weapon applies to which WP or it’s the fact those WPs are not listed. I’d have to crack open the book and find the notes I did up because I was going to have Juicer Ninja’s attack the players at some point in my N&SS game.
SSOGM
GM, 1102 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 02:43
  • msg #962

Re: OOC 3

I've always found the whole "weapon kata" aspect of N&SS to be fascinating, especially where ninjas are concerned. They get eleven weapon proficiencies* to begin with, but are allowed no more than three weapon katas (the third coming at level eleven).

    *Weapon Proficiencies included
  • Archery
  • WP Shuriken
  • WP Fukiya (Blow Gun)
  • WP Fukimi-Bari (Mouth Darts)
  • WP Kawanga (Rope/Grapple)
  • WP Knife
  • WP Kusari-Gama
  • WP Kyoketsu-Shoge
  • WP Manriki-Gusari
  • WP Nekode (Cat Claws)
  • WP Shikomi-Zue (Hidden Blade Staff)

Chimp Man Z
player, 990 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 03:33
  • msg #963

Re: OOC 3

I would love to see Palladium update the game more in line with Rifts.  It think 8f a Martial Art teaches a weapon proficiency, it should be considered a kata; why teach it as part of the fighting style if you can't use it with the fighting style?
Psi-Bird
player, 35 posts
Master Psion MA17/PB14
HP36, SDC45/165cos, AR13
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 10:34
  • msg #964

Re: OOC 3

Ok. I'm going to make a post at around noon EST.
Shockwave
player, 1 post
Fri 17 Nov 2023
at 02:02
  • msg #965

Re: OOC 3

<wave> Hello all!
Chimp Man Z
player, 993 posts
Mutant Circus Freak
HP101/101,SDC343/336
Fri 17 Nov 2023
at 02:17
  • msg #966

Re: OOC 3

Hullo.
Drifter
player, 93 posts
How may I be of service?
Fri 17 Nov 2023
at 04:40
  • msg #967

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Shockwave (msg # 965):

hello
waving back
JUSTICAR
player, 1545 posts
Mutant ExoPilot MA15/PB14
HP55, SDC137 J:700 AR15
Fri 17 Nov 2023
at 05:00
  • msg #968

Re: OOC 3

Welcome aboard Shockwave!
Spymaster
player, 80 posts
Secret Agent Man
HP:48 SDC:93
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 02:33
  • msg #969

Re: OOC 3

Hello Shockwave, kind of an odd time to join, but I'm sure you'll easily fit in.
Winter Herald
player, 708 posts
AR 15, SDC 600/600
Winter is coming.
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 03:15
  • msg #970

Re: OOC 3

Hello. Welcome to the show.
Paragon
player, 130 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 16:04
  • msg #971

Re: OOC 3

In reply to Shockwave (msg # 965):

Howdy
Paragon
player, 131 posts
Lucky Ducky MA 20 PB 25
SDC: 160 HP:35
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 16:09
  • msg #972

Re: OOC 3

@GM
Did you see my post #112?
SSOGM
GM, 1113 posts
Some Sort Of
Game Master
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 16:14
  • msg #973

Re: OOC 3

I opened up <a href="https://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=70205&ti=45&date=1700323558>How Much Trouble They Got In To</a>, please refrain from posting in a thread for a location that your character isn't in.
I've also created a new OOC thread (it would be OOC 4). We shall transition to using that thread, and then I'll close this one.
I saw that I missed Paragon's post, and treated it properly a little late (it's in both threads, now). Mea culpa (which is ancient Roman for "that's on me").
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