Character Creation.   Posted by DM.Group: 0
Faenir
 player, 2 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 14:01
Re: Character Creation
Hmm, now that you mention it I realize I've been picturing halflings as a sort of hidden people--there are more of them around than most people realize, they're just very good at... well not being invisible literally, but just keeping to themselves and staying out of sight. Their quiet farming villages are tucked just off the beaten path enough that few have reason to go there. That nice halfling couple in town is actually hosting a small community of three or four generations, attic and basement and all. The halfings in this city have their own network and secret meetings, providing mutual support (legal or otherwise). Things like that. They might get stereotyped (rightly or wrongly) variously as homebodies, gossips, hermits, discreet, schemers, cowards, or thieves.

The fighter option is actually not bad and pretty versatile (Defy Danger can cover a lot of things, from literally dodging out of harms way to to sneaking about), it just feels like cheating to swipe it from another playbook :)

I suppose I'll change names as well, Fledge seems more halfling-like. Most of the concept remains, though: Fledge is an experienced goblin hunter, one of a few who took up the mantle to push back at the goblin infestation in the woods near his homeland. His own people find him more than a little odd now, as his experience has shaped him (not to mention spending all that time with humans and elves!). He has the patience and persistence of a trained hunter, mixed with an occasional viciousness that can be surprising for someone so small. His manners are a little atrophied, sometimes it takes a hard reminder to snap him back from wildling to civilization.

Should we start thinking about Bonds, or not yet? The Druid Viserion seems like an obvious "is a friend of nature". I just realized how very compatible Viserion and Fledge's alignment moves are, too!
Dame Helena Fletcher
 player, 6 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 14:17
Re: Character Creation
What is a "salamander"? I assume it's not amphibian, but is the mythical elemental being. Is it humanoid?
Cinderclaw
 player, 3 posts
 Fierce Fire, Liquid Flame
 All Is Mine To Claim
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 14:25
Re: Character Creation
DM:
Also when you pick a race YOU and other players get to decide what that race actually IS in the game.

Judging by this, I have in my mind an image of a man who has Salamander-like qualities, mainly in the way he looks.  Perhaps his skin is slightly scaly, tongue has a bit of a fork in it, eyes have that alien/animal look about it.  That sort of thing, but if anyone wants to add something, I'd be happy to hear it.
Istvan Vanoson
 player, 5 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 14:43
Re: Character Creation
In reply to Cinderclaw (msg # 16):

Maybe Cinderclaw is half-fire elemental?
DM
 GM, 15 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 14:59
Re: Character Creation
Everything looks right to me Cinderclaw. Feel free to change your stats now before the game starts. Everyone be sure to check the new OOC post too.

Dame Helena A race is really whatever the group decides it is. If you want elves to be tiny toymakers then that's what they will be. It's a really cool thing in DW, that it's quite flexible for changes.
Cinderclaw
 player, 4 posts
 Fierce Fire, Liquid Flame
 All Is Mine To Claim
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 15:10
Re: Character Creation
Half-Fire Elemental works, and ties in with the concept I had when I first thought of this Character.  Thanks, Ist.

Looking once again at the Advanced Moves, only two of them require CHA, and neither of them look very good to me.  I'll stick to what I have, thanks.
Viserion of the Wood
 player, 6 posts
 Elf of wood and Sea
 HP-21/21, Armor=1
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 15:24
Re: Character Creation
Faenir:
Should we start thinking about Bonds, or not yet? The Druid Viserion seems like an obvious "is a friend of nature". I just realized how very compatible Viserion and Fledge's alignment moves are, too!


Sounds good to me!

:)
DM
 GM, 17 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 15:32
Re: Character Creation
Faenir you should now be known as Fledge. Onto bonds:

Viserion's Bonds
- .... smells more like prey than a hunter.
- The spirits spoke to me of a great danger that follows .....
- I have showed .... a secret rite of
the land.
- .... has tasted my blood and I
theirs. We are bound by it.

Istvan's Bonds
- .... owes me their life, whether
they admit it or not.
- I have sworn to protect .....
- I worry about the ability of .... to
survive in the dungeon.
- .... is soft, but I will make them
hard like me.

Cinderclaw's Bonds
- .... has felt the hellish touch
of fire, now they know my strength.
- I will teach .... the true
meaning of sacrifice.
- I cast something into the fire for ....
and still owe them their due.

Dame Helena's Bonds
- ....‘s misguided behavior
endangers their very soul!
- .... has stood by me in battle
and can be trusted completely.
- I respect the beliefs of .... but
hope they will someday see the true way.
- .... is a brave soul, I have much to
learn from them.

Fledge's Bonds
- I have guided .... before and
they owe me for it.
- .... is a friend of nature, so I
will be their friend as well.
- .... has no respect for nature,
so I have no respect for them.
- .... does not understand life in
the wild, so I will teach them.
-----

So work with your fellows to fill some blanks in with a player character’s name. Keep in mind you can use the same character in multiple bonds, doing this means you will be better able to aid or interfere with their actions. You can also choose to leave one blank until you feel you have reason to fill it in.

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:37, Thu 28 Sept 2017.

Dame Helena Fletcher
 player, 10 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 15:59
Re: Character Creation
In reply to DM (msg # 21):

I only recently realized that aid and interference are triggered like any other move. I think this means that if I have "X stood by me in battle and can be trusted completely" and I'm falling and looking for a hand to grab, then aid might be triggered for X to roll. If I have "Y's misguided behavior endangers their very soul!" and Y is trying to do something, then interference might be triggered for me to roll.

In other words, we might not have complete say over whether or not our bonds make things better or worse. Do I have that right?

Edit: I don't think that's right. I think the fiction, not just the bond has to indicate aid or interference for it to be triggered. But I'm not sure. I'm also not clear why interference would ever happen, but I guess the ol' "paladin has to stop the assassin from killing people" trope was what they had in mind.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:36, Thu 28 Sept 2017.

Viserion of the Wood
 player, 8 posts
 Elf of wood and Sea
 HP-21/21, Armor=1
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 16:07
Re: Character Creation
In reply to DM (msg # 21):

Viserion's Bonds-Not written in stone if anyone objects.

- Istvan smells more like prey than a hunter. The strength's of one's form is nothing compared to the land that spawned that body.

- The spirits spoke to me of a great danger that follows Cinderclaw. The fire consumes all if it cannot be quenched.

- I have showed Dame Helena a secret rite of the land. As she represents urban life and those who live there, I had to show her the land is not a beast to be overcome, but a equal to engage in a relationship of give and take. Weather or not she understands is another matter.

- Fledge has tasted my blood and I theirs. We are bound by it. We are both sworn to defend the wild places.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:08, Thu 28 Sept 2017.

DM
 GM, 21 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 16:29
Re: Character Creation
The way I see it is a bit simpler. It's that in the fiction you are trying to work with or against the character's actions. The bonus from bond's (to me) represent something more nebulous like better understanding what makes them tick or having more at stake on that action. It's more of a familiarity with them.

When you are working with someone you are friends with you will be more likely to succeed than if it was random stranger you just met. You'd be even more likely to succeed if it was your best friend, you know them enough to guess how exactly they will attempt the action and how to asist that action.

As far as interfere goes, the same idea. You recognize what they are going to attempt and have stake with making it not happen that way. If don't have any bonds with someone, it would probably just mean your character hasn't been focused enough of their character to know how theto would do something or have a higher stake in their successes. Am I way off in my view of it?
Dame Helena Fletcher
 player, 12 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 16:36
Re: Character Creation
In reply to DM (msg # 24):

No, that sounds right. I was forgetting that anyone can aid or interfere, but that it's +bond with that person, regardless of the nature of the bond.

I'll strike through my post, to try to stem any confusion I might cause.
Dame Helena Fletcher
 player, 13 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 17:04
Re: Character Creation
I added bonds to my sheet above (which I will be posting to my Character Details at some point)

- CinderClaw‘s misguided behavior endangers their very soul! (Fire is excessively destructive and desire leads to ruin.)
- Istvan has stood by me in battle and can be trusted completely. (A fellow warrior.)
- I respect the beliefs of CinderClaw but hope they will someday see the true way. (Sacrifice is important, but must be moderated.)
- Fledge is a brave soul, I have much to learn from them. (Small but strong! Reminds Helena of a halfling ally she once had.)
Cinderclaw
 player, 6 posts
 Fierce Fire, Liquid Flame
 All Is Mine To Claim
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 17:23
Re: Character Creation
I only have three, so please do not feel left out if you are not added.   ;)

 * Istvan Vanoson has felt the hellish touch of fire, now they know my strength.  When one walks beside the volcano, one cannot escape the heat.

 * I will teach Helena Fletcher the true meaning of sacrifice.  Abstinence in the form of Faith is merely a poor imitation.

 * I cast something into the fire for Viserion of the Wood and still owe them their due.  Flame is of the earth, and she will have what is owed true, or through others.
Istvan Vanoson
 player, 11 posts
 HP: 23/23
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 17:37
Re: Character Creation


So since we seem to be posting these here:

Bonds:
--Cinderclaw owes me their life, whether they admit it or not.
--I have sworn to protect Viserion.
--I worry about the ability of Dame Helena to survive in the dungeon.
--Fledge is soft, but I will make them hard like me.
Fledge
 player, 6 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 18:35
Re: Character Creation
Here's a stab at bonds. We haven't discussed character backgrounds all that much yet, so let me know if any of that seems counter to what Fledge might know of your character.

BONDS:
I have guided Dame Helena before and she owes me for it.
Viserion is a friend of nature, so I will be his friend as well.
Cinderclaw has no respect for nature, so I have no respect for him.
Istvan does not understand life in the wild, so I will teach him.
Cinderclaw
 player, 7 posts
 Fierce Fire, Liquid Flame
 All Is Mine To Claim
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 18:39
Re: Character Creation
I would say that's harsh on poor Cinder, but I can imagine that he has used his power around you before and he might seem to be a tad reckless in your eyes, especially when he is outdoors.
Dame Helena Fletcher
 player, 16 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 18:43
Re: Character Creation
In reply to Cinderclaw (msg # 30):

That's bond is a good example of what bugs me about bonds. Oh, well.
Cinderclaw
 player, 8 posts
 Fierce Fire, Liquid Flame
 All Is Mine To Claim
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 18:47
Re: Character Creation
Yes.  They do seem to be a bit rigid, but at least there is room for change.   ;)
Fledge
 player, 7 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 19:15
Re: Character Creation
Yeah I figured the playing with fire (so to speak) part would make Fledge pretty wary. It seems prime for easy resolution, since "a bond is resolved when it no longer describes how you relate to that person," and that shouldn't take too much.
DM
 GM, 30 posts
Thu 28 Sep 2017
at 22:29
Re: Character Creation
Did you decide to take the fighter move BTW Fledge? Another idea I had (since realizing I was confusing your backstory and Viserion's)

"You can always perfectly imitate any natural sound or voice."

"As long as you have some form of appropriate camouflage and remain still noone will notice you, even if searching." Too powerful but on the right track..

Maybe...
"When you have made camp and Take Watch you automatically succeed as if you had rolled a 10+"

I really like that one it makes you the alert bad ass who is so used to having to jump up from rest and combat dangers. It's different enough from the other Ranger racial moves to work well without overshadowing them.

This message was last edited by the GM at 14:57, Fri 29 Sept 2017.

Fledge
 player, 8 posts
 Veteran Goblin-Hunter
 HP 20/20
Fri 29 Sep 2017
at 16:12
Re: Character Creation
Yeah the fighter one would work but it seems lame just copying :) The one you crossed out I was gonna mention is actually almost exactly the same as one of the advanced ranger moves. That last one you put there is nice, it's very ranger-y and fairly halfling-ish in a wary way. +WIS for Take Watch would be a good roll for Fledge anyway but who cares, it's fitting. I'm good going with that.
DM
 GM, 32 posts
Fri 29 Sep 2017
at 16:16
Re: Character Creation
Okay, sounds good. Where is everyone else on character creation and bonds? The next step is going to be asking some questions to get a better feel of your character’s place in the world, but I want to make sure everybody is in a good place first.
Istvan Vanoson
 player, 12 posts
 HP: 23/23
Fri 29 Sep 2017
at 16:21
Re: Character Creation
In reply to DM (msg # 36):

I have chosen my bonds and became fine with them as soon as I understood that part of the point was to resolve them and replace them with new, less-obnoxious bonds eventually. I'm ready for us to move on to the next step... I hope everyone else is as well...
Dame Helena Fletcher
 player, 17 posts
Fri 29 Sep 2017
at 16:22
Re: Character Creation
In reply to DM (msg # 36):

I believe I'm done.