OOC: Character Construction   Posted by Narrator.Group: 0
Narrator
 GM, 48 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Mon 14 May 2018
at 12:25
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Oldtimer (msg # 52):

No worries. Actually, I think I slipped on something, myself. Working out how to do things is part of the fun of being a GM!

EDIT: Alright, so it's kind of a footnote in the Rules thread, but each PC needs their own set of Milestones, I'll add a section to everyone's character sheet. These Milestones should outline a piece of your character's development arc, and the steps taken to progress along that intended path. I will also encourage an option for your character to abandon that path, so for an example:

Milestones: Become a Champion

1XP - Damage an opponent in physical combat

3XP - Defeat an opponent in physical combat to win a prize.

10XP - Earn and accept a title in honor of your victory, or forever abandon the pursuit of titles, finding victory is its own reward.

Abandoning a path is not lightly taken, and can greatly change your character, possibly forcing their hand, until they complete another Milestone. So, if the above example had been Abandoned, the character would have to turn down any titles offered, until they took up Milestones more or less about earning a particular Title, breaking their own rule for a worthy cause, essentially.

These Milestones are also another way of signaling to your trusty GM what you want to accomplish/see/do in-game. You'll work with the GM to determine feasible goals and tasks, but the overall thrust of your character arc and the intended path is generally up to you, like the rest of Character Creation so far.

I'm also going to add this spiel to the appropriate Rules post, as well. Can't wait to see where people want to take their characters!!!

This message was last edited by the GM at 14:30, Mon 14 May 2018.

Myrddin
 player, 7 posts
 Silver Sidereal
Mon 14 May 2018
at 17:22
Re: OOC: Character Construction
You want us to post our milestones here or PM them?
Narrator
 GM, 49 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Mon 14 May 2018
at 17:29
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Either way you wanna do it. Posting here will give examples others might be able to follow, but working things out in a PM is fine, too.

I've still gotta add the milestones to the character sheets, too! Argh!
Myrddin
 player, 8 posts
 Silver Sidereal
Mon 14 May 2018
at 17:47
Re: OOC: Character Construction
So I've got a plan for what Myrddin is trying to accomplish
Understand the City of Doors
Learn to use the Magic Portals
Find Caliban
Find his former friends Morgan and Nimue
Learn to manipulate the Solars

Not sure they are all appropriate as Milestones. What thinking something like this

Milestone: Learn to manipulate the Solars

1XP: Get a Solar to side with you in a decision.

3XP: Get a Solar to do your bidding.

10XP: Gain a Solars undying loyalty.
Narrator
 GM, 50 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Mon 14 May 2018
at 18:23
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Myrddin (msg # 56):

I applaud your volunteering to be first guinea pig!

I like the ambition, though manipulating the solars at large is nigh impossible to do, as they're fairly disorganized and are more or less designed to be difficult to control, even the ones who've been broken and turned to the powers of darkness have the ability to break free. Perhaps Manipulating A Solar would be more feasible, and something of an accomplishment for a Sidereal. You'd be in their ear, steering whatever their project is from behind the scenes.

Your 1XP should be something that can be done multiple times in a Scene, and control of a person is not necessarily in convincing them to do something, but convincing them even in the face of opposition and evidence, so perhaps Deceiving a Solar?

The 3XP follows somewhat naturally from the 1, though depending on the task, it's tough to say if your bidding is followed through to completion, so maybe a little more specificity that you gave the Solar the motive to try and do your bidding, and less how well they followed through. Motivating A Solar? Something like that.

The 10XP is similarly difficult to measure, and doesn't really offer a method to abandon. I'd go with Win A Solar's Trust, so it becomes a question of your advice and recommendations paying off, or you choosing another, less direct way of steering Solars in the future.

It might also help to clarify the Milestone by elaborating on the phrase a bit, so the set of Milestones as a title, and each one has a title as well, for shorthand of what the milestone actually entails.

Overall, it's a good first cut, and shows good progression, if ambitious. Balancing Milestones is a tricky business. Some Milestones will probably be easier than others, but they are all narratively rewarding, and yours will probably result in one or more very powerful NPC allies!
Saegar
 player, 7 posts
Wed 16 May 2018
at 02:15
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Milestones: Fan of History
1 XP:  Finding a new snippet of old text about a previous Age.

3 XP: Finding a new substantial text (book, scroll) that could lead to a new theory about a previous Age.

10 XP: When you either sacrifice (leave) your team for a discovery or sacrifice an important discovery in order to protect your team.
Narrator
 GM, 53 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Wed 16 May 2018
at 12:02
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Saegar (msg # 58):

This is nice! I'd loosen up the 1XP, though, it seems too much like the 3XP. Maybe make the 3XP of finding Lore into 1XP, and have the 3XP a question of preserving, storing, or cataloging that Lore. So your arc is about finding and protecting bits of history, but at what costs...? How's this look?

Milestones: Fan of History

1XP: Finding texts or records from a previous Age

3XP: Safely protect found records in a library, or reinforcing their current storage (if you found a library of some kind, for instance) (this is the "IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!!!" bit)

10XP: When you either sacrifice a historic discovery to save your team, or abandon your team to rescue a discovery. (this is brilliant)
Saegar
 player, 8 posts
Wed 16 May 2018
at 16:33
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Sound good to me :)
Myrddin
 player, 9 posts
 Silver Sidereal
Wed 16 May 2018
at 17:38
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Just to clarify mine

Milestone: Manipulate A Solar

1XP: Deceiving a Solar

3XP: Motivating a Solar

10XP: Win a Solar's Trust
Narrator
 GM, 54 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Wed 16 May 2018
at 17:47
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Myrddin (msg # 61):

It's okay to have a title or a shorthand, but I'd like more details, at least on your character sheet, so I know exactly when to award XP. These are also situations I will be trying to set up, as well, chances for your character to shine, so give me enough details that it's a definite yes or no as to whether the milestone's fulfilled, but leave enough flexibility that we don't have to work too hard to make things happen.
Myrddin
 player, 10 posts
 Silver Sidereal
Wed 16 May 2018
at 17:51
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Okay let I'll get back to you on this to be more specific, probably in PM so I don't give away some more ideas.
Narrator
 GM, 58 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Sat 19 May 2018
at 02:27
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Following up on the Anima Banner discussion in the other thread and the new post in the Lore thread, I'd like everyone to give some thought to their character's Banner. I don't think anyone's going to go too overboard with their design, and I wouldn't mind these Banners being a surprise for me, so don't worry about running them by me for approval, but once your character's Banner is described in-game, do note it on your Character Sheet, as it's one way Exalts can be reliably identified.

Anyone hitting a roadblock with their character building?
Narrator
 GM, 73 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Fri 1 Jun 2018
at 13:50
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Are anyone's character sheets locked? I know there are a few of you who've had troubles, but some have definitely got more of their character worked out than what's on their sheets. When we've got a few more characters fully filled out, I can start putting together an IC thread!!
Narrator
 GM, 84 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 02:13
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Alright, we've got a few people off and running in the IC thread(s). Is anyone else having second thoughts about their build or trouble with getting their sheet up to date/completed?

If your sheet's finished and you want me to give it a final look, send up a balloon.

If it's all set, I can add you to an IC thread!!!
Myrddin
 player, 15 posts
 Silver Sidereal
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 02:58
Re: OOC: Character Construction
I think my sheet is all done, any problems?
Narrator
 GM, 86 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 11:47
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Myrddin (msg # 67):

Needs milestones. I think we discussed them somewhere, but I don't see any finalists on the sheet. (don't worry, this seems to be a somewhat common affliction)
Ta-Suil
 player, 40 posts
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 17:19
Re: OOC: Character Construction
I think I'm going to start borrowing descriptive language from Doc Savage for Ta'Suil :-) Except without the bronze hair.
Narrator
 GM, 87 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Tue 12 Jun 2018
at 17:24
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Ta-Suil (msg # 69):

I'm not familiar with Doc Savage, but what I got from a quick Google....sounds pretty appropriate for this campaign, haha.
Thiran
 player, 9 posts
 Dragon-Blooded Tracker
 Man from a Missing City
Thu 14 Jun 2018
at 01:05
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Character sheet updated!
Oleander
 player, 3 posts
Thu 14 Jun 2018
at 22:17
Re: OOC: Character Construction
My Character Sheet is done. Let me know if it all works out.
Narrator
 GM, 91 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 02:55
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Oleander (msg # 72):

I don't know if you wanted to rearrange the Attributes, the Physical/Mental/Social trio doesn't look like it's swapped around at all. Though that arrangement certainly seems logical for your character, I just want to confirm.

The Distinctions look fine, though they usually have a short phrase as a name/title, so they can be referred to by that name. For example, #2 could be "I'm Pretty & I Know It". The descriptions are pretty good. They convey the egotism, though I don't know if there's something else you'd like reflected there, since they all kinda hit the same note. There's a lot in his backstory you could touch on if you combined what you have into a "self-centered/egotistical because I'm pretty" Trouble.

The powers look correct, accounting-wise, the Elemental Control needs to be something specific, and you've already got Plant control, so you probably want to swap that for something else. The other Charms look straightforward, the names are a little blah, but that's your call if you want to change them.

The SFX on your whip is not quite right. Are you going for something more like: "Spend 1 PP. When using Whip (the ability die, not the weapon itself) against multiple targets, for each additional target add a d6 to your pool (pre-roll) and keep an additional effect die (after rolling)"? That would be an area attack. There are a number of ways to bump up Stress against a single target, too.

The Milestones aren't quite right. Consider instead a major project for your character, a story arc, but part of their larger tale. That would make a 10XP. Then, a concrete step toward that goal would be a 3XP, and the tiniest thing you'd do to "practice", something you do routinely or all the time (again, toward that goal) would be a 1XP. Abandoning the entire path should also be an option, and say something about the character's growth. Like the example I have in the rules. 1XP would happen all the time in a fight, 3XP would have the character seeking out prize-fighting tournaments and arenas, and the 10 is a culmination of that path, in winning a major tournament, or choosing to utterly abandon that path. Doesn't have to be scarring, or even permanent. If you find you want to take up an abandoned set of Milestones, we can talk about working that into the story, too.

This is a lot of feedback, but you've got a great character idea, and the backstory is awesome. I'm already looking forward to picking your brain about his origins and connections (both good and bad), I'd love to work some of those details into the campaign, if you'd like to contribute. The above things are mostly polishing, and I want to make sure that what's on the sheet conveys a complete portrait of this beautifully irresistable egomaniac. Really, it's just glorious.
Myrddin
 player, 16 posts
 Silver Sidereal
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 03:24
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Sorry I never finished, after we discussed them so much I forgot to out them in sheet. I have my milestones on my sheet can you please give me feedback so I can better explain and refine them to your expectations, thanks.
Oleander
 player, 4 posts
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 04:08
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Narrator (msg # 73):

This is really helpful! The attributes are correct. I will play with it some more. For some reason, the milestones have been a struggle for me. I think I've been going too general to fit whatever narrative you generate, and you are looking to incorporate our story arc into your larger campaign. Is that correct?

And I'm happy to contribute to the campaign!
Narrator
 GM, 92 posts
 PC/NPC Wrangler
 Not God, but Physics
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 13:38
Re: OOC: Character Construction
In reply to Oleander (msg # 75):

Myrddin - looks good. I updated my last post in the IC thread to add your character to the proceedings.

Oleander, yeah, milestones can be tricky. I am indeed using them as a way to influence the campaign. If there are certain things required for your Milestones, I'll try to make them available, either for you to seek out or as a normal part of the story. Going back to the example, there would be fighting/gambling pits for the Champion-in-training to find and compete in. There's also the balancing issue, where if the milestones are too easy or too hard, that character's share of the XP earning will be out of whack.

On a side note, I thought I'd gaffed the math on your build and double-checked it, but it was still fine. That's what I get for trying to GM late at night, haha.

This message was last edited by the GM at 13:46, Fri 15 June 2018.

Ta-Suil
 player, 43 posts
Fri 15 Jun 2018
at 17:43
Re: OOC: Character Construction
Remind me--Saegar, which character are you again?