Out-of-character discussion.   Posted by Dungeon Engine.Group: 0
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 106 posts
Mon 21 May 2018
at 21:44
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Okay, now the dragon is up. I'll post shortly.
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 108 posts
Mon 21 May 2018
at 22:08
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Tysria and Amnon are up, then the cultists. There's one more round in which the dragon could be targeted by ranged attacks, if the shooter takes a move to get to the side of the building.

Don't forget that delaying is an option. If you plan to do so, please state that, along with where you intend to come back in.
Amnon the Wise
 player, 30 posts
 AC 17 F14 R14 W14
 25/25 MBA +7 Surge 8/8 V3
Tue 22 May 2018
at 03:21
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Guys, I think I might have made him mad...
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 110 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:06
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Amnon the Wise:
Guys, I think I might have made him mad...

Yes, and he will try to make you pay for it, though he still has free will and is not obligated to do anything foolish.

Aedit, twin shot is two attacks, so the dragon would only have higher defenses against the first one.
Damara
 player, 67 posts
 AC:16 F:14 R:12 W:15
 HP 28/28 MBA +6 1d12+7
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:08
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Can we move away from these cultists ? I am ok with taking attacks of Op to get some distance and take an unimpeded shot.
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 111 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:12
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
In reply to Damara (msg # 231):

You can move away and the cultists don't really have any attacks to make, but the dragon will still have higher defenses for your next attack.
Damara
 player, 68 posts
 AC:16 F:14 R:12 W:15
 HP 28/28 MBA +6 1d12+7
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:14
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Ok
Aedit Zarthu
 player, 38 posts
 AC:16, F:13, R:15, W:13
 HP: 26/26, RBA +6, 1d12+4
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:38
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
In reply to Damara (msg # 233):

Well apparently the dice roller really wants this dragon to get away :)


11:35, Today: Aedit Zarthu rolled 13 using 1d20+6.  Twin Strike Attack 2.

11:35, Today: Aedit Zarthu rolled 18 using 1d20+6.  Twin Strike Attack 1.
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 112 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:48
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
In reply to Aedit Zarthu (msg # 234):

Looks like Damara pulled it off, though. I'll update shortly.
Amnon the Wise
 player, 31 posts
 AC 17 F14 R14 W14
 25/25 MBA +7 Surge 8/8 V3
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:49
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
*resounding applause
Aedit Zarthu
 player, 39 posts
 AC:16, F:13, R:15, W:13
 HP: 26/26, RBA +6, 1d12+4
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:50
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Well done Damara! Woohoo!
Damara
 player, 70 posts
 AC:16 F:14 R:12 W:15
 HP 28/28 MBA +6 1d12+7
Tue 22 May 2018
at 15:51
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
It was the Devilspawn comment got Damara mad lol !

Thanks everyone !
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 113 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 17:55
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
In reply to Damara (msg # 238):

I'll post the results soon.

Damara, did you get an attack bonus from your imp? That's okay if so, but I'd like us to be on the same page regarding that.
Damara
 player, 71 posts
 AC:16 F:14 R:12 W:15
 HP 28/28 MBA +6 1d12+7
Tue 22 May 2018
at 18:09
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Yes I did
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 115 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 18:59
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Well done, you've felled your first dragon!

The dragon is worth 750 experience points, or 150 each. I would have granted that regardless of you killing the dragon or not, which I should have mentioned earlier.

Due to the interference from the cultists and your prevention of the dragon from taking the diamonds, the total experience will be 200 each.

If we decide we're having fun and want to keep this going for a while, I will probably accelerate things, as it would probably take us a year just to go up a couple levels.

I'd love to hear any feedback you have about how that went. In particular how was it without the map?

The fight was not just a kill-em-all engagement, at least for the dragon who had the goal of leaving with diamonds. I usually like to have such goals for the opposition and often for the PCs, so that things are a bit more interesting than just slaughter. How did that work for you?

I often like to toss in additional complications, such as the cultists in this case. Sometimes it might be a trap, or some kind of environmental complication, or an overarching skill challenge. Did having the cultists make a difference to your enjoyment either way?

Any other feedback?
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 116 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 19:15
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
If the party does not immediately engage in rigorous effort, they can be considered to have taken a short rest, which means they get their encounter powers back and can spend any number of healing surges.

There's time for Amnon to use and regain inspiring word if people think they need it, but it will give the cultists more of a head start.

Please keep track of how many healing surges you have left.

No new action point yet. That was a tough fight, but not two-milestones tough. You'll probably get an action point after the next encounter.
Amnon the Wise
 player, 33 posts
 AC 17 F14 R14 W14
 25/25 MBA +7 Surge 8/8 V3
Tue 22 May 2018
at 19:24
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Well, I'm having fun.  I actually appreciated the complication of the cultists as battle complication.  And the dragon didn't just show up because reasons.  Of course I'm also exceedingly happy that we killed it before it got away, because I didn't relish the thought of chasing it down before it could heal too much.

I didn't mind the lack of map, but then I also didn't take too many powers that granted bonus movement so my opinion might not be the best.

I also greatly appreciate your bolded style of narration...reminds me of comic books.  I hope you don't mind that Amnon's adopted it.
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Speaking of not minding things, I worry a bit about Amnon barking out orders like he's "in charge".  Because while yes, it's in character for a "Warlord" to do so and yes I've played in several games where having someone "in charge" would make things go a ton faster, I do still worry about stepping on toes out of character.

So, thoughts?  Should I tone it down a tad?
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 117 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 19:31
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Amnon the Wise:
I also greatly appreciate your bolded style of narration...reminds me of comic books.  I hope you don't mind that Amnon's adopted it.

That's fine with me. My aim with that is to draw attention to what's significant in the scene. I don't always write with the highlights in mind, though, so when I go back to emphasize things I'm not always sure what needs attention.

Thanks for the feedback!
Damara
 player, 73 posts
 AC:16 F:14 R:12 W:15
 HP 28/28 MBA +6 1d12+7
Tue 22 May 2018
at 19:39
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Nice scene question though are the Cultists going towards the dragon ?

I dont mind getting the towns hunters.
We should all get teeth or scales or something. A group thing.
Dungeon Engine
 GM, 118 posts
Tue 22 May 2018
at 19:40
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
In reply to Damara (msg # 245):

Yes, the cultists are making their way toward where the dragon lies.
Orm Stormhammer
 player, 19 posts
 AC 19; F 15: R 13; W 12
 HP 31/31; Surges 13/13
Tue 22 May 2018
at 19:40
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
I was a bit worried about the lack of map but that scene played out quite well.  I like the kind of 'minds-eye' thing where you can try and do something if you think you are in range.  That certainly beats the careful counting of squares that goes on in many mapped games.

I also very much like the idea that the enemies have an agenda.  Makes things more real somehow.

And Amnon, bark away!  If it gets on Orm's nerves he is just the dwarf to let you know!
Damara
 player, 74 posts
 AC:16 F:14 R:12 W:15
 HP 28/28 MBA +6 1d12+7
Tue 22 May 2018
at 19:41
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Ok thank you for clarifying I wasnt sure.
Aedit Zarthu
 player, 40 posts
 AC:16, F:13, R:15, W:13
 HP: 26/26, RBA +6, 1d12+4
Tue 22 May 2018
at 20:09
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
I thought this encounter was great, just the right balance of drama and flavor and yes, the dragon felt really real! Great job boss!

Great job team!

Amnon, I've played a Warlord before and struggled with that exact challenge, I don't necessarily feel like I am capable of being the overarching strategic leader of the team and I definitely don't want to be bossy, but I will say that I never felt like you were overly bossy at all. Your job is to put us in a position to succeed and I think you did a great job at that. Would love it if you could grant free ranged attacks but no worries on that :).

Let's go skin this dragon.

Question, because this came up in another game, would eating a dragon be considered cannibalistic? Or looked down upon? I know it would put a huge target on our backs with other dragons, but would we all consider it the equivalent of eating another elf, dwarf or human?
Amnon the Wise
 player, 34 posts
 AC 17 F14 R14 W14
 25/25 MBA +7 Surge 8/8 V3
Tue 22 May 2018
at 20:35
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Thanks for the feedback guys, that helps.

On the subject of eating dragon.  At this point I'd consider it like eating alligator.

You wouldn't necessarily do it as a regular thing (unless you live in Florida) but if you happen to be lucky enough to kill one, that's a whole lot of fresh meat that's going to waste if you don't eat it.

Also with Dragons taking most of the good farming land for themselves, I suspect it's been awhile since the town has had meat at all. (I recall a particular scene from Dragonheart where almost this exact scenario occurs)

I say it's barbecue time.
Aedit Zarthu
 player, 42 posts
 AC:16, F:13, R:15, W:13
 HP: 26/26, RBA +6, 1d12+4
Tue 22 May 2018
at 20:55
Re: Out-of-character discussion.
Thanks Amnon, the meat thing is a real challenge.

I just wasn't sure about the whole intelligent life thing. I know there are some people who think eating dolphins is cruel, but if they are eating other fish, they may be eating dolphin and not know it... Any other opinions out there?