After playing with the system for awhile I have to say that I absolutely love the new Pathfinder 2e system.

I know it isn't everyone's cup o' tea but I imagine as time goes on more and more players will convert.

I would be ver happy to convert this game over to 2nd edition but I know that isn't what everyone signed up for so IF we ever get unanimous consent we can begin the conversion process.

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Because of how new 2e is and how classes are being continually released there is a blanket
rule allowing free rebuilds after switching to 2e.

It's a new system, there are a lot of gaps they need to cover and people are still learning what works and what doesn't. Whenever the party can rest in an inn you can do a complete rebuild so long as it is spiritually in line with the original character.

Otherwise if you want to do something radical we can talk about either a more extreme rebuild or rotating a character out and bringing in a new character.

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Current Vote:

This message was last edited by the GM at 20:24, Thu 19 Nov 2020.

I would like to switch to PF2e. And this may entail a character change of a sort since I do not know if they have a cavalier, but I'm sure that we can come close to Kamea. Heck, my horse has been left in the barn/stable or all purposes :)

Let me think on that.  I'm crazy about that idea.  I'm in a 5e game and I was not planning on buy more PF books.

Bob

In reply to Tanu (msg # 3):

Tanu you can actually build a full character without buying any books. Everything published by Paizo is on the SRD as is much of the 3rd party content.

As to my character, the hard part for me might be finding a way to still keep her healing spell. There are ways to do it, I just have to think about if I want to go that route or not.

I’m down to switch over to 2E. I haven’t had a chance to try it yet, but it looks interesting!

I'm personally opposed. I would be willing to try it if every other player was into it, that's how I learned pathfinder originally. But offhand I'm not enthusiastic to learn 2e pathfinder unless the group is otherwise behind it.

So I guess No borderline abstain?
This message was last edited by the player at 20:44, Wed 18 Nov 2020.

The hardest part to do w/o books is building a character. I can assist with that and as mentioned everything is available on the Archives of Nethys: https://2e.aonprd.com/


The core rules are pretty similar. You've got your attributes, your d20 to-hit roll, your 3 saving throws.

The big difference is the 3-action economy. They scrapped all the different action types (move vs. standard vs. full) and instead you get 3 actions a turn. Want to move three times? Done. Want to attack three times? Done. Want to move-attack-move? Done. Some abilities that used to be akin to full-round actions, namely casting spells or power attacking, just take 2 actions to perform.

It simplifies combat and provides so much more flexibility because attacking takes standard multi-attack penalties: -5 on second and -10 for additional beyond that so while you typically want to get an attack off it doesn't always help to just stand and attack so there is a lot more secondary actions done in combat and a lot more decision to make.

Another big deal is how character builds work. They split feats up into a ton of categories:

Ancestor Feats (these are like your racial abilities)
Class Feats (these are the abilities that you "unlock" as you level up)
Skill Feats (do cool things with skills like hide better or pick locks quicker)
General Feats (misc. stuff).

So every level you're selecting from one of those categories. Every level means you get to make at least one real choice on the direction of your character.

The way multiclassing works is that when you get a class feat instead of taking the feats available to your current level you take a "dedication" feat that lets you yoink the abilities of another class. A rogue's trap disarming or a barbarian's rage or a wizard's cantrips etc. can be chosen to create a hybrid character.

I like it because while it grants you the abilities of other classes it doesn't bork your main class. If you're a fighter that wants to dip rogue you don't lose your BAB progression. If you're a wizard that wants to dip monk you don't lose your casting progression. You just don't gain the metamagic abilities like you would if you focused on your class.

All in all I really like it. The 3-action makes enemies a lot more interesting to run as well from my end and the math is so much cleaner than in Pathfinder or 3.X.



@Phelar: Pick Ancient Elf -> Cleric Dedication as a Wizard. That gives you access to Cleric cantrips. As an alternative if you go something like Battle Medic you can use Medicine to heal in battle.

Cleric Dedication

Field Medic background gives you Battle Medicine letting you heal 2d8 1 per person per battle.

So are we ready to dive right in?
My first character in PF2 was with our GM and all that I used was https://2e.aonprd.com/.

Just finished my first combat and I thought it was amazing :)

I'm willing to try, for conveniences sake I'll ask if there's an rpol sheet, should I use Mythweaver or what? Having a system sheet makes it easier to see what I'm missing for sure.