The way 2e is to be honest there will always be some skill overlap I've noticed. Not sure why they did that, but oh well.

I'm trying to figure out what I can spend money on.  I'm useless with weapons, I can't use armor, I don't need spell components.

I'm using PathBuilder to set up.  Is anyone else?  It is an android app, which is annoying, but it runs fine in Bluestacks, an Android emulator for the PC.  It is a hundred times better than anything I've found elsewhere.

It has a very convenient set of class-specific starting kits under gear, so I got the sorcerer's kit.  (...but immediately threw away the flint and steel.  What would someone use THAT for?)  I also bought a disguise kit, but then what?  Suggestions are welcome.  If any of you big, strong, fighter types who have to buy armor and expensive weapons want to borrow a few gold, I would give very reasonable rates.  :-)

In reply to N'za Glom (msg # 14):

I use HeroLab Online to build my characters. So easy and explains everything.

Heh, so the local inn the one Yala's parent's own and she sell's potions from? :)

BTW, I'll be taking the Local Scion background.

I find it to be a minorly cruel coincidence that I checked for the price of a rowboat (maybe to buy later to appease my pirate urges) and it was 15gp, the starting gold. So while I could start with a dinky boat (dinky dingy?) it would take all my starting gold.

Not that I was actually going to buy it in starting gear. I just think it's a cruel bit of Fate that it was exactly 15.

In reply to Yarr the Hearty (msg # 17):

Don't feel bad. I can't afford everything I need as an alchemist AND a healer.

How much do you need?  I'm serious that there's little for me to buy (and I was kidding about rates).  My skills are thinky and talky skills, so no tools for those except the disguise kit.  I went ahead and got a sling and stones, but I do more damage with a Produce Flame cantrip and I'm more likely to hit with it.  I can't wear armor, and if I'm meleeing there's already a big problem.

@Yalandlara, I'm surprised I didn't discover HeroLab in my search.  They need better marketing.  I'll try it out.

Just as an FYI the group is not starting as an established party so no trading coins just yet. Save it for when you need it! It can help to be the party moneybags when a guard needs to be bribed or the party is shy a few coins on that healing wand

In reply to N'za Glom (msg # 19):

50 More silver for the healer's kit.

As for HLO, here's a link: https://herolab.online/

I know about HLO because I go to GENCON every year and have both HeroLab Classic and HeroLab online.

Herolab finally has a 2e module?

If any of us are undersupplied for whatever reason I'm sure when we party up any of us with spare money would be willing to at minimum lend money for something as party-aiding as a healing kit.

That aside, I will likely grab a riding dog and give it a name that sounds like a boat name. Any thoughts? I was thinking maybe "The Dripping Dodger". It just popped in my head and riding dogs are depicted as St Benards (infamous droolers).

She'll be a fine vessel.

Just kidding. I won't actually be playing Yarr as thinking the dog is a boat. My character is weird enough lol.

Ugh just did a price check and it would cost > $100 to get everything needed for PF2. I really like their products but they are about x2-x3 times the price point I want to pay for their material.

Yes, on the online version! hehe:)

AND you can setup campaigns in it for better tracking of characters, and so much more.

In reply to Dungeon Master (msg # 24):

Thankfully most of their stuff hits their official SRD over at Archives of Nethys within a few weeks of release.

I'll be buying the PDF of the Advanced Players Guide later this week if you want info from that.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:25, Tue 28 July 2020.

I liked the offline version because I could usually use it as a cheaper alternative to buying a lot of the books. Especially the character option books that provide no content other than "here is a bunch of stuff for your character". So it was like $50 for a hardcore, $20 for a PDF or $5 for the hero lab extension.

PF2 is already so much better laid out I actually don't mind buying the PDFs because I don't want to punch my screen trying to navigate through them.

Yea it's not cheap, but I been buying it piecemeal since it came out too which is why I've not felt the strain.

With that in mind, if you are interested for purposes of the game I could upgrade my account to a Patron account, then all you would need is an apprentice account and invited into my 'campaign' to use all the HLO content I have. Which is everything.

But I leave that up to you all.

As a side note, Yala's done. Will have her in the character section in a bit.

Oh I agree. I even went so far to buy the Humble Bundle bundle that had everything in it on PDF plus the hardback for $30. I got tired of using my shiney special edition hardback. lol

I plan to get the rest on PDF when they come out too.

FYI trust the 2e character creation rules, not necessarily the character sheet. There are some areas with expanded room that might just apply to specific heritages or classes.

I am following character creation rules directly out of the 2e core book. No optional rules, no freebies.

Sounds good boss! That's how HLO works, so all should be well.

I have to say that I found PathBuilder to be a lot easier to use than HeroLab online (just trying out the free version).  There were several UI choices HLO made that I disagree with (and I am an expert in the subject -- just sayin').  For instance, my Ancestry Feat expects me to pick a Lore skill, but while it complained there that I hadn't completed the feat, it gave no hint that I actually had to pick it over in the skills section, and then it took me quite a while to figure out how to add a new Lore skill.  In PathBuilder, on the same issue, it directed me to the right place and adding a new Lore skill was extremely obvious.

(Just checking that I can still edit posts created under my old name, and whether or not it changes the name when I edit.)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:04, Tue 28 July 2020.

In reply to N'za Glom (msg # 32):

I beleave Yala is done and up. :)

I have Yarr mostly done, down to the non-combat gear. I'll pop him into the character sheet a bit later in the day (it being 2:00 AM where I am). I had work today (well, yesterday technically) and didn't quite get it all the way done.

Also must ponder where I want to sit. Kinda mildly tempted to pen a song and sing for those hecklers that want a dirty song.

Maybe a jaunty number about how a king put out a call for a knight to handle a dragon, and a knight appears claiming he handled the dragon making his life hell. The king initially is pleased but then the dragon attacks and the King, about to confront the knight for lying, notices the Queen gazing at the knight wistfully.

Maybe not. Maybe shouldn't be that bombastic right out of the gate.

Okay, I think my sheet is complete. First time making a 2e character, so hopefully I didn't miss anything.

If everyone could shoot me a PM saying their sheet is ready I can begin reviewing. I don't like tracking that via OOC just because messages get buried very easily.

As a reminder you are free to begin posting whether your sheet is up or not. It's just a bit of freeform RP while we get the game going.

FYI it is currently mid-morning. The call for heroes happens at noon.