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Protean
 player, 14 posts
Sat 25 Aug 2018
at 19:30
Re: OOC
It says "established hero", so I would assume they do have to be a hero rather than just some random scientist. Though nothing stops it from being a science hero if they so choose. Heck they could even have been working with the villain and called us in or been mislead about what the villain planned to do with the device. The ideas about us just being there as part of a class or the unveiling also work. I wasn't trying to discount them. I was just saying that the possibility existed.

As to Honda's original comment though, The heroes in the setting are left vague because we make up the majority of the heroes in our setting. You tell us who we impressed and they are now cannon to our setting. In answering the question, you give us information about who they are and why they were impressed. Even the names mentioned in the book don't have to come into play in our game if we decide we have better ideas.

Edit: Honda beat me to it, sorry.

This message was last edited by the player at 19:31, Sat 25 Aug 2018.

Honda
 player, 10 posts
Sat 25 Aug 2018
at 19:44
Re: OOC
Protean:
It says "established hero", so I would assume they do have to be a hero rather than just some random scientist. Though nothing stops it from being a science hero if they so choose. Heck they could even have been working with the villain and called us in or been mislead about what the villain planned to do with the device. The ideas about us just being there as part of a class or the unveiling also work. I wasn't trying to discount them. I was just saying that the possibility existed.

As to Honda's original comment though, The heroes in the setting are left vague because we make up the majority of the heroes in our setting. You tell us who we impressed and they are now cannon to our setting. In answering the question, you give us information about who they are and why they were impressed. Even the names mentioned in the book don't have to come into play in our game if we decide we have better ideas.

Edit: Honda beat me to it, sorry.


Great minds Think alike, my friend. And apparently we do too ;p

Anyhoo, as for the establishmentet hero we impressed... I’m gonna say we impressed the hero known as Beatcop. He’s a fairly low-powered bronze age hero, sporting enhanced strength and the ability to create small hard light constructs. Mainly used to create instant but stronger versions of mundane things, such as swat riot gear,  cuffs, batons, etc. He prides himself on protecting the little guy, and puts enormous weight on the idea of “serve and protect” he considers property damage, especially to something like science equipment that won’t have significant benefits for the everyday man, to be an insignificant Price to pay for protecting human life. Hence, us destroying the expensive but dangerous portal and saving the VIP is stellar work.
Rocket
 player, 12 posts
Sat 25 Aug 2018
at 20:43
Re: OOC
Logistically, everybody being there for the Grand Unveiling makes sense. It could cover a lot of things: high school field trips, possibly some foreign dignitaries. The former could put Donnybrook and La Bomba at least at the scene; Honda could potentially be part of that as well, as an exchange student, or part of the latter as an escort or something (just a suggestion of course, you may have your own reasons for why he was there). Rocket could show up in an effort to find a way home, having been on Earth for a day or two. Protean...would they be going to high school with everyone else?
Protean
 player, 15 posts
Sat 25 Aug 2018
at 21:46
Re: OOC
You know, I'm not really sure. I assumed most schools would have trouble dealing with a student like it. I really assumed that it spent most of its time just doing its own thing before it met you all. It's progenitors aren't really in a position to worry about it going to school or even be helpful outside of its powers. Not to mention that it makes it hard to go off and fight evil if you have to worry about school. While that makes sense for some versions of the Janus, it isn't really something I had given a lot of thought to for Protean. That being said, I don't see why the idea wouldn't still work.

I mean I assumed it had friends that it hung out with and it could have just been hanging out with them on a school trip. So, I guess at the end of the day it goes to school or not purely on its whim and the need of the story at the time. It has no scheduled classes, but can be in any class as a friend to someone in that class. The same thing could go for the administration, they can either be trying to force it out or keep it in class depending on the need of the story at the time. They could easily take that attitude that it is a kid and therefore should be in school or that it doesn't go to their school and should be elsewhere depending on their position in the system.
La Bomba
 player, 6 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 00:25
Re: OOC
Can protean pass as human?

For my important person we saved, I kind of want to put a twist on it and say they are (or will be) important for a bad reason. Like we saved the equivalent of lex luthor, or a kid who is destined to grow up to be the next Hitler or he's going to invent the zombie apocalypse virus or something
Rocket
 player, 13 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 00:40
Re: OOC
Ooh, a 'no good deed goes unpunished' idea. I love it.

Maybe this could tie in to Donnybrook's question? The idea that this whole shebang is part of something bigger?
Protean
 player, 16 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 01:19
Re: OOC
Not for long. Presumably with enough clothes, one could hide the fact that it wasn't made of flesh. Who knows? Maybe clay, coal, dirt, or some other minerals could pass for skin tones at a distance. At the end of the day, the moment someone got close enough, they would notice it wasn't flesh. Other issues pop up for most other forms. If I use water or air the problems just crop up sooner. Fire is right out. There are other rocks and dirts that could be used to make up the body, but they would all seem unnatural rather quickly. The best way I could think to do it would be to basically make a full body special effects prosthetic and take a watery form to move within. As long as the make up wasn't damaged, it could likely pass. It might move a bit more fluidly than it should but that could be ignored. Same thing with it being a bit cold to the touch. Some people just have cold hands and unless you are looking for it, you wouldn't immediately notice that someone's joints don't quite work like they should when it screws it up. That would just be a lot of work for very little pay off. Why would it want to pretend to be human?

I mean it likes humans just fine, but that doesn't mean it would ever want to be one. Rocket seems to like you all just fine, but I don't think she wants to be one of you all either. Dogs like you all just fine, but I don't think that they aspire to being people. Protean is happy with who and what it is. It is like a dog, cat, or horse. Something that you all understand to be different, possibly lesser, but definitely part of your lives. It feels no shame in the idea that it was kept in a Altoids tin by a child who thought it was neat. Or that that same child used to ask it to sit on a candle so that she could read at night. It took pride in being useful and being what it was. Not every pet hates its life. Human isn't the greatest thing in the universe to be despite what they may tell themselves. I mean birds can fly, don't have to pay taxes, and have a good life in many cases. How many humans are getting up in bird suits to try to be one of them? Ants rule the world. They cover more geographic area than humans and humans have to fight a war to keep them out of their houses. One they seem to lose quite often. How much do the humans want to be one of them?

What does humanity offer that Protean would want that it isn't already getting? Its physiological needs are minimal. Its safety is seen to easily. It gets love and belonging as a pet, friend, or curiosity. Esteem comes from those relationships as well, but admittedly is on less stable ground. That would be where doing the hero gig and improving itself comes in. It holds itself in esteem because it has been taught well and keeps working on the goals it considers important. The same thing goes with self actualization. It is working to become better and do something great. None of this requires being human and because it was raised by them, that is likely a good part of its guide to happiness. It was raised to be happy in its station. It wasn't raised to feel shame at what it wasn't, but to embrace the glory of what it was and become even better. The ultimate good and value of a person isn't determined by dint of birth.

Throwing on a human suit would be an insult to itself and the humans. It would be like a dog getting up in a human suit or human getting up in a bird or ant suit to try to join them. Those that can respect it as a fellow sapient being do so. Often recognizing it as a person even if it isn't their kind of person. Those that can only recognize it as sentient and want to treat it as lesser may be convinced, but are not likely to be won over by a costume change. Those who choose to recognize neither are never going to have their minds changed by it no matter what it does.

Now, on to your suggestion about important people. I like where you are going with it. I would love to hear more. It would be up to the GM if it is within the spirit of the question. I am wondering if we know this a head of time though. If not, it seems like it doesn't really matter. If so, why? Did we just value life that much? Did we do it without knowing? Did we know and do it intentionally with some goal in mind? I suppose what I am really after is what you were hoping it would add to the story? Being clear about that would likely be helpful to the GM and us as well.
La Bomba
 player, 7 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 01:30
Re: OOC
Protean not passing as human was what I thought. And the rest of that description makes me wonder why it would bother going to school. Well maybe curiosity, but then I don't see how it would be tolerated. Using the dog analogy... no school I ever attended would let a stray dog just wander around down the halls.




As for the important person, I was leaning towards we didn't know they were important at the time because their importance would be revealed later. So in the moment, we were just saving some apparently innocent bystander.
Rocket
 player, 14 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 01:39
Re: OOC
Well, both examples you listed were politicians. It may very well be that we save Mayor-Elect Dick Goodman who is Definiately And Totally Not Evil.

For example.
Honda
 player, 11 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 02:14
Re: OOC
Well, if we’re dealing with someone who might behold important in the future, there’s lots of fun ways to deal with it. If he was someone who’d Turn evil in the future, we could have a whole truck load of trouble. Perchance his future self travels back in time, seeking to cause great trauma to the Younger version to set him on the path of evil? (Of course, while our characters would be shocked when this truth comes out, the impact would be lessened on us, since the idea came from us...)

But in essence for someone to not yet be important but eventually become so, all we need is someone who knows it. Someone who plans it, or someone from the future who knows and wants to further or foil it. There’s loads to work with.

As for the whole protean human thing, I’m definitely seeing the reasoning behind not pretending to be human. Though I Think if there should come situations where someone seeming more human is needed and protean is the only one available, it could be a simple as just having a fullbody suit lying around. Then you just slip into it, shape your body to fill it out and take on a human shape, and voila. You’re just another guy in a completely covering costume. And there’s definitely less raised eyebrows about another guy in full body spandex.

A variant of that might even work for going to school. All you need is a note from your doctor explaining that you’re an Exchange student from the whatever Galaxy, and need the suit to live ;)
Protean
 player, 17 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 02:44
Re: OOC
I had two answers to the idea that they wouldn't let it be there. First, they may not know it was there. If it is just hanging out in its friend's backpack as the water in their thermos or the keychain on their keys, how is the school really going to know? Also, why would they really care at that point?

Second answer. The dog is the wrong analogy in this case. It would be like trying to keep a bird or a ghost out. You can eventually catch the bird and get it to go out of a building, but you are going to have a lot of trouble keeping it out of the courtyard and you are going to spend all day trying to get it out of a building if it gets in. Similarly, a Halcyon City school may have the tools to remove Protean, but it would take a while and at a certain point you might just give up as trying to get rid of it would be more distracting than letting it be. I've tried to get birds out of stores because the mess with the alarms. It is not fun.

I mean how many classes would your schools cancel or interrupt with a janitor chasing a bird before they do it when class isn't in session? How many days or staff members would your schools devote to getting rid of the bird before they decided they had better things to do with their limited resources? The school board and PTA can raise a fuss, but unless they want to give the funding to install bird nets and the like, they are out of luck. Same thing could work here. They've basically resigned themselves to the fact that it comes and goes as it pleases because it isn't worth the effort to stop it.

Now, they could reason with it or try to come down on its friends, but that is really a matter of wanting to. Continuing the bird analogy, if a kid had a bird that liked them, and kept coming to them at lunch and trying to follow them into class, the school could ask the kid to stop bringing the bird. The school may not be able to stop the bird from finding the kid again later, but they could ask them to stop helping it get into the buildings to be with them. It may just sit by the window outside tapping on the glass or singing because it wants the kid. Though that runs afoul of the other part. Any of its friends could simply claim that they have no choice in the matter. They are as powerless as the administration to stop it.

Also, Honda's answer to it was good. It could blend in more easily than I suggested and that is a perfectly valid solution to the issue of needing to make Protean seem more human if the issue ever comes up. So, if it really wants to go, and really absolutely has to blend in, we have a solution. Either it shows up in a form they don't know about, can't be moved if they do care about it, or shows up in a suitable disguise to deal with the situation. Problem solved.

In the end, as you pointed out, all of this is sort of moot. It doesn't really want to be in school except for the chance to hang out with its friends. Most of the time the schools wouldn't have to deal with it and the times when it needs to be in school it can be hand waved much like the damages caused by super heroes. It only ever has to be an issue if the GM wants to make an issue of it. Don't get me wrong. There could be some fun there. If we have to do something at the school and they don't like Protean, that could be an interesting obstacle. Though we do have a solution now thanks to Honda. Heck mentions of that sort of thing could even be one of the ways I get reminded of my character's past damage.

It could also illuminate the opinions of others. Elena's mother could view it as a no good nuisance at the school endangering the education of her children. Lucia might think it is funny when it shows up or even be one of its friends. Heck Protean and Lucia could have been in Campfire together and your mother could love it and think that the school is overreacting if they take issue with it. Lucia might be jealous of it because its friends with someone she wants to spend time with and she can't get the chances because they keep spending time with it. It could also be a total nonissue. It never gets mentioned or brought up in the game because the GM has better things to do than worry about it. Page space is quite possibly better spent exploring it in other ways.

I am figuring that right now, the team makes up a good bit of its social schedule. Mostly to keep down the number of needed NPCs and to make it easier to keep and get us together. If the GM chooses to throw in a connection to an NPC, that is fine. I just have no plans to give them a host of people to keep track of. Even the other elementals I kinda figure won't show up unless the GM really needs to pull them in for some reason. It is just more interesting to write other characters with more depth. I'm not going to be hurt if my ideas NPCs fall by the wayside for better NPCs to interact with. As long as I am having fun, I don't care where they came from.

Also, everyone had good ideas on the important person. Future politicians work well but as Honda pointed out, your options are pretty open as anyone could be a good option depending on how their future went. All of them leave a lot of story material to work with if the GM decides to use it. It would eventually have to be worked in in a way that we actually cared about, but that isn't an impossible task. As Honda pointed out, that is as simple as introducing an interested party that we can interact with. Someone who knows and wants to do something about it now instead of in 30 or 60 years. Whether we are helping them, hindering them, or just learning about what we have done so that we actually know enough to do something, it isn't hard to bring that to the forefront if and when the the GM decides to do so.
La Bomba
 player, 8 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 16:06
Re: OOC
Rocket:
Well, both examples you listed were politicians. It may very well be that we save Mayor-Elect Dick Goodman who is Definiately And Totally Not Evil.

For example.


Wouldn't have to be a politician... Lex Luthor is a politician sometimes, but he's more of a Mad Genius in my mind. Hitler is just a universally understood example.

Could be someone who invents the zombie apocalypse virus, or someone whose "smell" attracts Galactus, or the "Eve" for the next stage of human evolution.

The time travel angle had definitely crossed my mind, but I was thinking something more like future HEROES (maybe OUR future selves) come back in time to try to stop us from saving this person. Or maybe they can't come back far enough to stop the saving, so then they start trying to get rid of the person in other ways and they end up being a recurring "villain" who's not really a villain at all.
Rocket
 player, 15 posts
Sun 26 Aug 2018
at 20:51
Re: OOC
My only thought was that, as a politician, they would be important to the city, and therefore explicitly fulfill the question. But it's totally up to you, and I'm always down for a bit of a timey-wimey plot. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to think of the portal as a gateway through time as well, whether it was intended for that purpose, or it just happens because Science.
Donnybrook
 player, 10 posts
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 02:06
Re: OOC
Timey-wimey can be fun! :) I'm down for it!
EIC
 GM, 9 posts
Mon 27 Aug 2018
at 20:16
Re: OOC
Just wanted to let everyone know that I may have limited availability this week due to family health issues.  I really like how things are moving along and hope that I will have the time soon to help finalize everything
Honda
 player, 12 posts
Tue 28 Aug 2018
at 11:32
Re: OOC
EIC:
Just wanted to let everyone know that I may have limited availability this week due to family health issues.  I really like how things are moving along and hope that I will have the time soon to help finalize everything


You just focus on getting better. I Think we Can handle the relationship stuff we haven’t finished yet, and then you Can just holler at us if we come up with something that doesn’t fit. Most important is for you to get well so no thoughts of stopping the game due to poor Health comes up. ;)
Donnybrook
 player, 11 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 02:10
Re: OOC
Since we're talking relationships...

quote:
____________________ is awesome, and you take every chance you get to hang out with them.
You’ve got to prove yourself to_____________________ before you feel like a real hero.


I'm thinking I may need to prove myself to Hiro. They seem almost mentor-stoic to me. Hiro, you good with that?
And anyone wanna be my hang-out buddy? I promise shenanigans, 'borrowed' cars, and the occasional beer heist!
Rocket
 player, 16 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 02:31
Re: OOC
In reply to Donnybrook (msg # 64):

I am so down for that! Let the shenanigans commence!

You may need to teach me a thing or two about humans, tho.

Any volunteers to be my secret, possibly unrequited crush? Not picky about gender.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:33, Wed 29 Aug 2018.

Honda
 player, 13 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 02:43
Re: OOC
Donnybrook:
Since we're talking relationships...

quote:
____________________ is awesome, and you take every chance you get to hang out with them.
You’ve got to prove yourself to_____________________ before you feel like a real hero.


I'm thinking I may need to prove myself to Hiro. They seem almost mentor-stoic to me. Hiro, you good with that?
And anyone wanna be my hang-out buddy? I promise shenanigans, 'borrowed' cars, and the occasional beer heist!


Yeah, that sounds cool with me. From an objective viewpoint, Yoshiro is definitely the kind of guy who other Young heroes would think had things way more figured out than them. After all, he’s a legacy. He has training, backing and the advantage of being taught by older heroes all his life. Plus, setting a good example would be a Big deal for him and his teachers, so he would strive to be professional. Definitely the kind of person who projects more “proper hero” vibes than most teen dogooders.

Rocket:
Any volunteers to be my secret, possibly unrequited crush?


I’d happily volunteer for this as Well. I could see lots of fun drama stemning from a sort of opposites attract thing. I wouldn’t know if it would be unrequited, since I feel like that would Best develop organically in one or the other direktion during play. I Can definitely say that he souldn’t Be Aware as long as she kept it hidden, though. Having been raised very seriously, he would be quite thickheaded and unaccustomed to dealing with romance. It just wouldn’t occur to him that someone had the hots for him unless it’ spelled out to him.
At which point he would be in for a very interesting and confounding time indeed :p


Now as for my relationship things:
Relationships
- You once got caught doing something that shames your legacy with ______________.

Who lured me into some frivulous activity that shamed me (or at least, really really embarassed me) in the eyes of my mentors and clanmembers?


- You trust ______________ and told them an important secret of your legacy.

And who did I trust with some secret of my legacy. Not to mention, what could the secret be. I can’t quite come up with something good yet. Best I’ve got so far would be that the whole clan backing me is highly classified, but the one I trust has been let in on some of it.
Donnybrook
 player, 12 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 02:56
Re: OOC
I'm good for both crushing with crazy alien girl, and with Making Honda's life miserable having done something that brought shame to his legacy. In fact, that may be why, under the surface, I need to 'atone' and gain his respect!
Protean
 player, 18 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 03:02
Re: OOC
I think Rocket is indeed a good choice for you, Donnybrook. She is pretty cool. Protean is pretty cool too, but she is cooler. Plus, you basically get a two for one either way. One of my questions has Protean blowing off steam with someone, and she seems the natural choice for that question for it. Honda is likely a bit stiff to blow off steam with. La Bomba has too much going on. I don't know enough to really judge Donnybrook, but I get him with Rocket anyway. I could see our little trio having some good fun.

I've also hurt someone. If people have ideas, I am more than happy to hear them. If nobody has suggestions, I will go with my own ideas. I just value the input of others and you all have come up with some really good stuff. You may have way better ideas on this than I do.

As for secrets for the Honda legacy, a way to stop the manifestation of your armor and/or weapon could be a pretty high stakes one. Another would be information on something that the spear couldn't cut. That one could be interesting if Protean was the one who knew it as it may well be able to make a body or something from that if things got out of hand. The backing of your clan being a secret also works, but it doesn't pack much of a punch as a secret. Let's say everyone knew. What changes? Possibly more risk to them, but it isn't like it would be shameful or anything. Honda in all his forms is a hero. What is the harm there? Having it come out might even allow them to offer more open support making things easier all around. That is just my two cents. Edit: This is in no way meant to insult the idea, but to inquire so that thought can be put into what it actually means. I offered a perspective simply to show my ignorance about the possible downsides, not to suggest that it had none. By considering and possibly stating them, the idea night be implemented better if that situation ever came up.

Also, while I think that Honda offers a far better option. I just wanted to point out the possibility of Rocket crushing on Protean. It is genderless and asexual. It wouldn't have any idea what was going on. I just thought that the idea was funny enough to mention, but the story would get boring fast. Honda offers way better stories in the long run and short run. Something could actually be built there and that is always nice.

This message was last edited by the player at 03:14, Wed 29 Aug 2018.

Honda
 player, 14 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 18:55
Re: OOC
Protean:
As for secrets for the Honda legacy, a way to stop the manifestation of your armor and/or weapon could be a pretty high stakes one. Another would be information on something that the spear couldn't cut. That one could be interesting if Protean was the one who knew it as it may well be able to make a body or something from that if things got out of hand. The backing of your clan being a secret also works, but it doesn't pack much of a punch as a secret. Let's say everyone knew. What changes? Possibly more risk to them, but it isn't like it would be shameful or anything. Honda in all his forms is a hero. What is the harm there? Having it come out might even allow them to offer more open support making things easier all around. That is just my two cents. Edit: This is in no way meant to insult the idea, but to inquire so that thought can be put into what it actually means. I offered a perspective simply to show my ignorance about the possible downsides, not to suggest that it had none. By considering and possibly stating them, the idea night be implemented better if that situation ever came up.


Hmm, yeah, knowing how to prevent the armor and weapon from appearing would be a big secret to be privy to. I just can't come up with how that would be prevented. It could be something like if another person is already holding the stuff, it can't be called, but there's already the whole deal about a person having to be worthy to share in the legacy's power, not to mention wield the armaments. So I'm not sure how we could implement it.

The thing the spear can't cut could work too. Obviously there will be things it cannot cut already, simply because it's too hard or has special properties. Honda's spear is a powerful magical item, but it's by no means certain it can cut something created by a powerful alien, wizard, god, etc. it's just most earthly materials it can cut.

If there should be something specific it can't cut as a weakness, I'd think it should be because of some other issue. Like, if Tadakatsu Honda's master Ieasu Tokugawa wore a helmet with a certain material in it's makeup (like say, a special gold alloy in it's decoration), and Honda's immense loyalty, which is one of the things he's known for, influenced the spear to be unable to cut anything made from that alloy.

And I totally get that you're just chiming in with ideas, that's the whole point of going back and forth like this. Nothing you've said has come across as disrespectful or rude, so rest easy my friend.
And if something did, I'd like to think that I'm mature enough to retort calmly so we can get past potential issues without any trouble. More often than not anything that seems rude is due to bad wording, intention being hard to get across in writing at times. :)

Still think the clan being at least semi-secret makes sense though, due to a few factors.
1. Every clan member has a normal life. So them being publically known as supporters of a hero would put a lot of people in potential danger.
2. While they work around a hero, and is an upright organisation, it's still a well organised group with unclear numbers of highly skilled warriors who, for better or worse, is trained to fight, and to kill if necessary. That's not something any government want to deal with unless they control it. so the less is known outside the clan, the less risk of someone becoming paranoid and making a preemptive strike on the clan. Or worse, an outsider gaining influence over the clan and manipulating them.
La Bomba
 player, 9 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 19:33
Re: OOC
What about teaching someone the clan's "secret handshake"?


Here's mine.

1. _____________________ knew you from your civilian life first.
2. You refused to tell ___________________ your secret identity when they asked


Donny/Protean probably work easiest for #1. If Honda's been in Japan until recently, there's not a lot of chance to run into him. And depending on how new Rocket is to Earth, same deal. For Rocket, I suppose, she could have emerged somewhere in the Barrio and run into Elena.

Donny/Honda probably work easiest for #2. I don't see a lot of tension about telling Protean or Rocket my secret ID, as they are both aliens.
Honda
 player, 15 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 20:07
Re: OOC
La Bomba:
What about teaching someone the clan's "secret handshake"?


Here's mine.

1. _____________________ knew you from your civilian life first.
2. You refused to tell ___________________ your secret identity when they asked


Donny/Protean probably work easiest for #1. If Honda's been in Japan until recently, there's not a lot of chance to run into him. And depending on how new Rocket is to Earth, same deal. For Rocket, I suppose, she could have emerged somewhere in the Barrio and run into Elena.

Donny/Honda probably work easiest for #2. I don't see a lot of tension about telling Protean or Rocket my secret ID, as they are both aliens.


Oh, Honda wasn't born in Japan. The clan's main seat has been in halcyon city for more than a generation, so he's born and bred here. just in a very secluded and strict household.
While some older members aren't too happy about the seat of the clan not being in the father land, everyone has to acknowledge the fact that Halcyon is THE city when it comes to hero activity. So that's where they work from.
While he hasn't gone to a public school, he wasn't hometutored either, since being able to function convincingly in everyday society is a pretty vital skillset, after all.
So he's been in a private school until the time came for high school, were he got to choose whether he wanted a to go to a public high school or not. He chose public, wanting to get a more real experience of normal life.

I could see Honda being the one denied her identity at some point during their first meetings. Honda could easily have made a a request for the obviously inexperienced and haphazard younh heroine to take of her mask, go sit down in a corner and not get in the way. Since being trained for all his life to be a hero, he knows well that a hero with no training or discipline can be just as dangerous to herself and others as any villain.
So he could definitely heave voiced a need for her to put aside her masked identity and stay out of danger.
Which, when coming from a young man taught by old men with strict discipline and archaic thinking, and heard by a troubled young girl with an attitude, could definitely come of as an order. which would obviously cause tension to say the least.

All in all, I can definitely see their personalities clashing generally.

Though Honda wouldn't carry a grudge or anything about not knowing her identity or being told off. Once he'd seen that she can in fact handle herself, even if it would be crude by the clan's standards, he would respect her, and apologize upfront.
So he wouldn't carry a grudge over that, at least. (Though I'm sure there'll be other things for them to clash on ;P)
Protean
 player, 19 posts
Wed 29 Aug 2018
at 22:16
Re: OOC
Honda, my overactive attempts to avoid being misunderstood as far as being rude is based on a series of bad incidents with people where someone took something the wrong way and people started getting defensive. Once in that position, it was hard to properly apologize. There was perceived sarcasm and subtext that got in the way. Basically, once they're looking to take offense, offense will be taken no matter what you do. Wanting to avoid that I went too far.

I can understand where you are coming from now on the clan though. I guess I had sort of forgotten that governments and the like still had reasons to worry even if they did think the group was good and wasn't picturing them having normal jobs outside of their support. I can see why they would want to keep it a secret now.

As to la Bomba's stuff. The tension in telling aliens your secret identity is if you are concerned about us intruding on you other life. Imagine if the Vision just sort of dropped by Aunt May's house and knocked on the door asking for Peter. It would be hard to explain why that was happening. So, one could refuse on the basis that you don't want them showing up in that part of your life. Same things go with loose lipped allies. If you know that someone can't keep their trap shut, you don't tell them your secret identity.

In your case, imagine Protean coming over with no obvious connection to her and knocking on her mom's door asking for Elena. They're just sitting at the table doing the crossword while they wait for you to get home or having an awkward conversation in the living room about how the two of them know each other. Now, to be honest, Protean would likely never come to your door. There are easier ways to get to your home, but the basic idea stands. A super hero (having no reason to know you) showing up in your living room raises red flags you might not want raised. I am not petitioning for the position, but explaining a reason why you might deny people like Protean and Rocket the information.

I floated an idea before about Protean having been in Campfire with Lucia. That would give them cause to have known each other from before you were a hero. That could work well with the fact that she also knows that you are a super hero. I don't know what sort of age difference exists between Elena and Lucia, but the idea works either way. If they are close, Protean would have known Lucia when she was younger and viewed you as just her older sister for most of the time they knew each other. If she is younger, they may still be in Campfire together. Either way, this sort of relationship builds in an additional connection to one of the NPCs and avoid having to go into detail about what they know of each other. If you were basically just the sister of a friend, we can play it by ear on how well they know each other. It is entirely possible that they only ever saw each other in passing or that they have had extended contact with each other.

Alternatively, Protean isn't above having some fun with gangs. They could easily have been active in your neighborhood as a hero and have met you during that time. It likely isn't as devoted to that as she is, but nothing says that something couldn't have drawn its attention. After meeting you he might have hung around occasionally. I'm over here forming images of Ms. Dominguez beating it with a flip flop for messing up her home or breaking stuff when fighting to gangs followed by a few panels of it cleaning up the mess. Cleaning the house, plastering the bullet holes, fixing the window, painting, and trying to glue back together her lamp. By the end all is forgiven. She didn't really like that lamp anyway. Sorry, I've gotten off on a tangent.

Those were just some ideas I came up with for how they may know each other. They may have a more direct relationship before she became a hero. I just wasn't sure what you would want out of that sort of relationship or how much you wanted to build on it. If you have any cool ideas, I would love to hear them. Sorry if I tend to go overboard with my ideas. I figure questions could be raised about just about anything, so having an answer is good. Plus, it saves the GM having to ask and wait for a response if we answer ahead of time.