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Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Posted by DerrickFor group 0
Derrick
GM, 237 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 17:01
  • msg #47

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

I do not believe that initiating a grapple and following up with a takedown on the same turn is legal. Its a similar situation to arm locks. Also, how did you get the rapid strike penalty down to -1? you have trained by a master, yes, but that just gets you down to -3.

EDIT: oh, flurry of blows. Be aware that one is 1 FP per attack, and its nice to state it explicitly.

For the record, I'm not a fan of either rule.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:02, Thu 20 Dec 2018.
Dblade
player, 189 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 17:42
  • msg #48

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

it does say that under the rules for Takedown in Basic, however under Grappling and Multiple Attacks on page 128 of MA it says that you're able to perform multiple grappling actions that would normally take a turn provided each are rolled as a separate attack? It also specifically mentions you can grapple and make an instant follow-up. Throws from Locks have been specifically called out as not part of this on SJG, but I haven't found anything saying so for Takedowns.

Also, regardless it was a Leg Grapple attempt. Which means Lane has to use his dodge to defend, not his parry, with the -3 from Riposte.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:03, Thu 20 Dec 2018.
Vulco1
player, 93 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 19:08
  • msg #49

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Good catch Dblade and Derrick.
14:01, Today: Vulco1 rolled 5 using 3d6.  Retreating Dodge (11 (+3 Retreat - 3 Riposte)).

Lane snatches his leg back and out of the way of Baogang's reach.
Dblade
player, 190 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 19:40
  • msg #50

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

So, how far away is Lane now?
Vulco1
player, 94 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 20:33
  • msg #51

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

I believe the rules say that the retreat happens simultaneously of the attack, so Lane is technically the same distance from you that he started at until the end of the round. So you can finish your attacks.

At that point he'll be 1 yard away. Unless Baogang takes a step and follows Lane.
Dblade
player, 191 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 21:08
  • msg #52

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

His attempt at a grapple thwarted, Baogang makes another attempt to down his opponent, this time with a sweeping low kick.

16:06, Today: Dblade rolled 10 using 3d6.  Judo Sweep QC if it hits, vs 13. MoS 3

16:05, Today: Dblade rolled 12 using 3d6.  Judo Sweep Kick roll  TN 13.

Vulco1
player, 95 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 21:28
  • msg #53

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

16:27, Today: Vulco1 rolled 10 using 3d6.  Dodge (14 (11 Dodge +3 Retreat)).

Lane does a quick step over Baogang's leg sweep, narrowly avoiding it.
Dblade
player, 192 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 21:48
  • msg #54

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Your turn.
Vulco1
player, 96 posts
Thu 20 Dec 2018
at 22:35
  • msg #55

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

3 Committed Attacks using Rapid Strike and Flurry of blows -3FP
Penalty:-6 For each additional attack -> -12 Penalty for each attack for Rapid strike -> -6 Penalty for each attack for Trained By Master -> -3 Penalty for each attack for Flurry of blows.
First attack is a Pressure point punch



Lane summons some extra vigor and unleashes what he hopes to be a devastating combo. A punch, a kick, then another punch

There's a lot going on below so I used the colors to separate out each move.
17:16, Today: Vulco1 rolled 11 using 3d6.  Pressure Point Punch to hit (12(15 Punch -2 PP -3 Flurry +2 Committed ))vs 3d6.
Success
If it hits,
17:16, Today: Vulco1 rolled 10 using 3d6.  Hit Location.
Torso,
Roll a QC vs your HT to see if the PP works. If you lose, you have to roll vs HT every turn and lose 1FP
17:19, Today: Vulco1 rolled 13 using 3d6.  QC for PP(12) vs HT.
MoS -1


17:17, Today: Vulco1 rolled 5 using 3d6.  Kick (12(13+2 Committed Attack-3Flurry)) vs 3d6.
If that hits,
17:20, Today: Vulco1 rolled 4 using 1d6+3.  Kick Damage.


17:18, Today: Vulco1 rolled 5 using 3d6.  Punch 2 (14(15+2Committed Attack-3Flurry) vs 3d6.
If that hits,
17:20, Today: Vulco1 rolled 4 using 1d6+2.  Punch 2 Damage.

Dblade
player, 193 posts
Fri 21 Dec 2018
at 01:06
  • msg #56

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Baogang falls back under the fierce onslaught, deflecting each of the powerful strikes. Against the last punch he makes another unbalancing Cloud Hands Parry.


19:58, Today: Dblade rolled 13 using 3d6.  Judo Parry Roll,13+3 (Retreating)+2 Feverish Defense -2 Riposte -2 Multiple parries TN 14 .-1 FP.

19:57, Today: Dblade rolled 8 using 3d6.  Judo Parry Roll,13+3 (Retreating) TN 16 .

19:56, Today: Dblade rolled 12 using 3d6.  Judo Parry Roll,13+3 (Retreating) TN 16

Baogang then attempts to seize on the unbalancing by seizing Lane's wrist on the last punch and whirling him into a throw on his outstretched arm.

Edit: Forgot the penalty for Multiple parries after my second Judo parry, but still make the roll AFAIK.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:54, Fri 21 Dec 2018.
Vulco1
player, 97 posts
Fri 21 Dec 2018
at 13:20
  • msg #57

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

08:16, Today: Vulco1 rolled 8 using 3d6.  Retreating Dodge( (11+3 retreating -3 Riposte)) vs 3d6.

Lane snaps his fist back and takes another step backward.
Dblade
player, 194 posts
Fri 21 Dec 2018
at 14:16
  • msg #58

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Before Lane retreats out of the way, Baogang takes a shot at his legs with another sweep, though its as much an attempt to discourage Lane and test his balance s anything

09:14, Today: Dblade rolled 9 using 3d6.  QC for leg sweep, Lane gets +1 to QC. MoS 4

09:13, Today: Dblade rolled 8 using 3d6.  Defensive Leg Sweep, TN 13 to hit. Success

Vulco1
player, 98 posts
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 00:45
  • msg #59

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

19:44, Today: Vulco1 rolled 11 using 3d6.  Dodge 14 (11 +3 Retreat) vs 3d6.

He lifts his leg over the sweeping kick.
Dblade
player, 197 posts
Tue 25 Dec 2018
at 01:03
  • msg #60

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

your turn now.
Vulco1
player, 99 posts
Wed 26 Dec 2018
at 15:28
  • msg #61

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

10:27, Today: Vulco1 rolled 16 using 3d6.  Kick(13)vs 3d6.

Lane tries to kick from the middle distance but misses.

Your turn
Dblade
player, 198 posts
Wed 26 Dec 2018
at 20:37
  • msg #62

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Did you roll against DX or Immovable Stance to avoid falling down after missing your kick?
Dblade
player, 199 posts
Wed 26 Dec 2018
at 20:40
  • msg #63

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Baogang takes a step back and Evaluates.
Vulco1
player, 102 posts
Thu 27 Dec 2018
at 15:35
  • msg #64

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Nope.  I forgot
10:34, Today: Vulco1 rolled 10 using 3d6.  Immovable stance (13) vs roll.


Lane evaluates Baogang for any opening.  Scrutinizing the fellow combatant.
Dblade
player, 200 posts
Thu 27 Dec 2018
at 15:44
  • msg #65

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

you can't Evaluate, you took an attack maneuver.

Baogang stays where he is and evaluates his foe once more, sizing him up for openings.
Dblade
player, 201 posts
Fri 28 Dec 2018
at 14:51
  • msg #66

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

your turn again BTW, pretty sure Evaluate takes up my full turn?
Vulco1
player, 104 posts
Fri 28 Dec 2018
at 15:49
  • msg #67

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Are you talking about that roll with the immovable stance? That wasn't an attack maneuver, I was just wrapping up the missed kick roll that you reminded me of, to make sure I wasn't on my back this round. And the kick was from the turn before you took your step and evaluate, so I think it's legal. Or am I missing something?

Defensive Attack
10:43, Today: Vulco1 rolled 11 using 3d6.  Defensive Attack Kick (14(13+1 Evaluate)) vs roll.
if it hits, 10:44, Today: Vulco1 rolled 1 using 1d6.  Kick damage (1d( 1d+2 kick - 2 Defensive attack).



Lane maintains his distance of a yard away and snaps off a weak kick at Baogang.
Derrick
GM, 241 posts
Mon 31 Dec 2018
at 15:04
  • msg #68

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Immoveable stance does not require an attacking maneuver. Its one of those weird defense skills.
Dblade
player, 202 posts
Mon 7 Jan 2019
at 18:25
  • msg #69

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Baogang once again pivots and slips aside from Lane's kick, then tries to follow up with a sudden, quick throw.


13:23, Today: Dblade rolled 12 using 3d6.  Judo throw 16+2(Committed Attack) -6 (deceptive attack) 12 total.

13:20, Today: Dblade rolled 6 using 3d6.  Judo Parry roll, 12+1(Defensive Attack) +2 (Sideslip Retreat) TN 15
Vulco1
player, 108 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 16:11
  • msg #70

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

Did you take 3 levels of deceptive attack? I'm going to assume you did in my roll.
11:10, Today: Vulco1 rolled 10 using 3d6.  Dodge (10 (11-Dodge, +2 Defensive Attack-3 Deceptive) vs roll.


Lane snaps his leg back just in time to dodge what looks to be a throw.
Dblade
player, 207 posts
Tue 8 Jan 2019
at 23:52
  • msg #71

Re:  Lane (Kyokushin Karate) vs Baogang (Tia Chi Chuan)

A defensive attack only gives a +1 to defend.
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