As a FYI my wife bought me Dungeon Fantasy for Christmas.  I told her about it a few days ago when it happened.  I have just completed a Dwarf for another game I play in, and Whisper/Knight are the next items for me to handle.  Can't promise it will be today, but I plan to have them done in the next couple days.

Also, for our information...  It seems our combat options are getting more and more complex every time I look at them.  Is there a good 1 page reference somewhere that summarizes the combat options available?  As an example, it appears Dungeon Fantasy 11 has added a run and hit option?  Someone mentioned it in another game.  I ask because we're all trying to learn here.

I thought I was good at this until some of the more experienced people pulled out details I had never tracked before.

https://drive.google.com/open?...nC2ozB0N6M4EOjZGWJYh

This is a cheatsheet I found a while ago.  It's not everything but it is the basics.

The purpose of this club is to let people practice/show off the finer points of GURPS combat. Gurps does have a lot of options, and some folks know them very well. I think the times I've been the most blown away are when I was GMing a Monster Hunters Warrior who had the chance to raise skill and get nice gear. At about skill-20 with a melee weapon and either weapon master or trained by a master, gurps melee combat suddenly gets a learning curve, and people used to that sort of play can do some insane stuff. I think this also happens in DF, but I've never played DF.

For the basics of melee combat options, I open martial arts chapter 4, and just skim through it for the things I need (the PDF table of contents is great for this). Sometimes it will point you back to the basic set.

For remembering all of the little things, there is nothing like playing the game to learn it. At some point you have to either sit down and pour over books or watch someone who knows all the little tricks, and take notes.

As for knowing about obscure options like DF 11's Run and Hit, That's why I try to specify which books a given scenario is using. I don't think anyone has a list of all those options, other than mental. That option is certainly a surprise to me.

Greetings Balir!

/Stenet, Jednesa, Jareth...


Run and Hit is a Power-Up, an Advantage Characters in Dungeon Fantasy can purchase (and any game with a permissible GM).  It just lets you ignore the skill penalty and cap when you perform a Move and Attack Maneuver.  It costs 10 points and requires specialization.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:31, Mon 10 Dec 2018.

Yes, I will be playing Balir in Northport.  I spent a *lot* of time tweaking him to get things just right.  In the end I'll probably buy off the racial move and then he'll be exactly what I want.  There are a couple minor tweaks I need to add there, but he's basically ready to roll.  Very similar to the Knight template, so I'm hoping he'll make the dragon thread easier once I really engage there.

My best character is currently Celtic in my friend's ShadowRun: Awakenings (GURPS 4e) game, though.

I figured out why I've always treated Roll With Blow as a defense, in 3e it was only usable if you failed a defense roll.



Man, that was bugging me.

Kromm (Sean Punch) woke up and replied to a thread I started on this topic on the GURPS forums:



Now I'm wondering if Roll With Blow suffers the same penalty when Stunned that Mind Block does...

A rules question. The text on Choke Hold says that if I fail my roll, my grapple still succeeds but I've failed to apply the choke. Does this mean that failing a Choke Hold by less than a critical failure can be a shortcut into grappling the neck, and if so can I subsequently apply a headlock using the neck grapple?

Can you quote the line that says that?  Because I think you're reading it wrong.

I did read it wrong. Weird mixup involving the text for the chin-tucking defense that makes it read as if the opponent succeeding on a parry at all still gives you a grapple but not a choke.

In reply to Dblade (msg # 211):

Say, question that may apply to Baogang, if not Demchug:

Knockback allows for highest of DX, Acrobatics, and Judo to remain standing.  Roll with Blow specifies DX.  Are we rolling with RAW on that?  It certainly does keep Roll with Blow from being full OP...

Um...if it's DX, why is Roll With Blow its own skill that says you roll against it to determine the effect in its description? And why does it feed off of skills like Judo to determine its level?

Edit: Oh duh, it's the roll for whether you suffer knockback and such that matters. Well, handily enough it doesn't really matter for Baogang either way, as even if he failed the flat DX roll I'm 75% certain he can just use Immovable Stance to avoid it if he wants.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:44, Wed 12 Dec 2018.

It is a weird case. I recently had someone claim that it added an EXTRA roll in addition to the normal one. It is odd that it specifies a DX roll without being extra clear that its excluding the normal knockback roll.

I think we have time to consult the sjgames forums on this one, as its not urgent. yet.

I've already got a thread going here, if anyone wants to hop in and get questions lined up:

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=161013

[EDIT]
And I see you're already there asking this question Derrick.  /thumbsup
[/EDIT]
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:20, Wed 12 Dec 2018.

As a neat addendum to my much earlier whole line of questioning about what good Sumo Wrestling is and how to best use it with a Tai Chi Chuan fighter, apparently both Kromm and TKD apply the strength bonus to the damage roll to resist falling down from slams as well as make them. Small difference but still nice.

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=127248

In reply to Dblade (msg # 216):

Sorry about dropping off the face of the earth.  The rules decision lined up with a work-weekend, since I was chaperoning a debate trip to Nanjing.  I'm back and ready to kiai to the bitter end.

Hey folks,

Just wanted to say hi and that I've requested to join in some of the games. I've been playing GURPS a while but usually miss some of the nuance at the level of detail needed for scenarios like the 1on1 unarmed combat games - or even get lost when having 200+ points to play with.

But, ultimately, I really love these scenario based games and quite like the opportunity to try things out, practice and get to know people while it happens!

Hope you're all having a wonderful festive season and looking forward to playing with you all soon.


I suggested to the GM an Orcs vs Elves(allies) type scenario, which may well happen. Has there been consideration for the use of a hex battle map? They are pretty good for the bigger tactical skirmishes.

Either way. All fun and games!

Yes, teh Dragon v Knight will be a hex map battle.

But there are problems with hex map battles on PbP, specifically the wait time for the GM to update the map, this is why you won;t often see maps drug out in PbP games.

We have had a lot of family through the house (we're hosting CHristmas and New Year's) so I'll be sporadic until after Jan 1st.

It'd make more sense to use a google drawing. But I agree that hex maps aren't ideal.

This isn't going to happen in any of our Martial Arts competitions...  but it's just too badass to not share:

Wrestling Match
https://twitter.com/DovySimuMM.../1087391834903580673

I concur with that observation.  Can't have been good for his knee, but he seems none the worse for wear.

Had some family stuff to attend to, sorry for the absence.

Actually, think if someone failed a takedown attempt hard enough they can get taken down instead, and nothing stopping you from fluffing that as such if you choose to ^_^

Are we done with the Martial Arts tournament now?

I hope not, Master Mu hasn't beaten everyone up yet...



/jk
/butseriously.jpg
;)