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Whisper
 player, 36 posts
Sat 3 Nov 2018
at 17:36
 msg #124
Re: General Chat
Also, I was going to offer a suggestion.  Since the point of this is to learn, maybe give people who are unhappy with their character's performance the opportunity for a minor re-write after their first fight?  Thus far I'm happy with Whisper, but I am sure others are less happy.  I haven't ever done Martial Arts before, but I'm very experienced with GURPs.  Others are probably still learning the ins and outs.
Dblade
 player, 102 posts
Sat 3 Nov 2018
at 18:47
 msg #125
Re: General Chat
Yeah about that, the way we're running the rules things like Ambidexterity actually have no effect right? Since Martial Arts at default gives no penalty for handedness, only one vs two hands? Baogang did okay-ish, but I'm wondering if I can optimize him better?
Vulco1
 player, 51 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 18:13
 msg #126
Re: General Chat
I think if you do two parrys in a turn, the second parry is at a negative since it's offhanded.

quote:
Parrying with the Off Hand: You parry with your “off” hand (your left or “shield” hand if right handed; see Handedness, p. 17), or with a weapon held in it, at -4 to skill. Since Parry is calculated off half skill, this gives -2 to Parry. You may ignore this penalty if you have the Ambidexterity advantage (p. 39).
- Campaign page 376.

I may be looking too hard at it though.

Also, we should get some tournament brackets up.
Whisper
 player, 41 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 18:15
 msg #127
Re: General Chat
Karate allows you to parry twice, once with each hand.  Characters 203 under the skill description.
Dblade
 player, 103 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 18:35
 msg #128
Re: General Chat
So am I correct in thinking ambidexterity doesn't matter in this tournament or not?
Derrick
 GM, 165 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 18:52
 msg #129
Re: General Chat
Yes, ambidexterity basically never comes up. Its much more useful for weapons.
evileeyore
 GM, 102 posts
Wed 7 Nov 2018
at 22:24
 msg #130
Re: General Chat
Dblade:
So am I correct in thinking ambidexterity doesn't matter in this tournament or not?

To be slightly more clear, there is no 'off-hand' when fighting unarmed.  Boxing, Brawling, Karate, and Judo give single hand parries, so you may Parry without penalty with both hands (individual skills have individual penalties for parrying some types of attacks).  Wrestling and Sumo require both hands in a Parry, so you don't have 'two separate hands' to Parry with.

Each hand's iterative parries are tracked separately.  So, if you Parry twice with your right and once with the left, your first parries with each are at no penalty, the second with your right is at -4*.  Further parries with either hand are at cumulative -4* (-8 for the third right hand, etc)



* -2 with Trained by a Master or Weapon Master (Unarmed Skill).
Dblade
 player, 104 posts
Thu 8 Nov 2018
at 01:42
 msg #131
Re: General Chat
So to get at the answer to my implied question a bit clearer, where should I put the 5 points I had in Ambidexterity? I also feel like I should redistribute the points I had in Breath Control, as I can't use it in the midst of combat.
Whisper
 player, 42 posts
Thu 8 Nov 2018
at 02:05
 msg #132
Re: General Chat
Breath Control is part of the template, I think we all took something similar.  As for the Ambidexterity, I had suggested a minor rewrite of the characters after our first battle.  I'm good with it, as long as no one else objects.  I have one minor tweak I want to make to Whisper, but I held off because it wasn't part of the template.
Whisper
 player, 43 posts
Fri 9 Nov 2018
at 21:13
 msg #133
Re: General Chat
Where did everyone go?  Long weekend or something?
Dblade
 player, 105 posts
Fri 9 Nov 2018
at 21:23
 msg #134
Re: General Chat
In fact it is.

Also, did we settle the rules on ringout because it'll effect my build.
Whisper
 player, 44 posts
Fri 9 Nov 2018
at 21:42
 msg #135
Re: General Chat
I made the suggestion, but I don't think anyone in charge gave a final approval.  Not my circus, not my monkeys.  :D
Nicole
 player, 28 posts
Sat 10 Nov 2018
at 01:51
 msg #136
Re: General Chat
It sounded like ring out is still a thing?

I mean, it makes "roll with blow" a little dangerous, but... not utterly killer.
Derrick
 GM, 166 posts
Sun 11 Nov 2018
at 14:05
 msg #137
Re: General Chat
Whisper:
I made the suggestion, but I don't think anyone in charge gave a final approval.  Not my circus, not my monkeys.  :D


given the lack of objections, We're going to allow tweaks. Tweaks have the following attributes:

They aren't a rework of the entire character. Points are moved from expenditures that seem ineffectual to ones that appear to be weaknesses.
All changes are explicitly declared at the time they are made. You don't get to just post a new sheet.
Sheets should be still legal according to character building rules
Vulco1
 player, 52 posts
Mon 12 Nov 2018
at 16:37
 msg #138
Re: General Chat
Sounds good to me about the tweaks.

I thought we settled on ring out being a condition of defeat instead of a time-out.

I'll see if some tweaks can be made to Lane.
Whisper
 player, 45 posts
Mon 12 Nov 2018
at 16:41
 msg #139
Re: General Chat
I mostly want to change 1 perk for Whisper.  Otherwise I haven't seen any real weaknesses (yet).  We'll see how he does against a grabber.  :)
Derrick
 GM, 167 posts
Mon 12 Nov 2018
at 16:46
 msg #140
Re: General Chat
Which fight is up next?
Whisper
 player, 46 posts
Mon 12 Nov 2018
at 17:19
 msg #141
Re: General Chat
Whisper is ready to go, but others have been waiting their turn.  I feel no need to hog the podium.
Nicole
 player, 29 posts
Mon 12 Nov 2018
at 21:24
 msg #142
Re: General Chat
Demchug vs. Baogang, maybe?
Dblade
 player, 106 posts
Mon 12 Nov 2018
at 22:34
 msg #143
Re: General Chat
I think technically that was next. I don't anticipate it going well for me XD
Nicole
 player, 30 posts
Tue 13 Nov 2018
at 10:19
 msg #144
Re: General Chat
In reply to Dblade (msg # 143):

Oh hush, you'll be fine!
evileeyore
 GM, 103 posts
Tue 13 Nov 2018
at 11:05
 msg #145
Re: General Chat
Nicole:
Oh hush, you'll be fine!

... finely ground mince meat!
Dblade
 player, 112 posts
Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 05:58
 msg #146
Re: General Chat
So, that was fast. Now what?
Nicole
 player, 36 posts
Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 07:08
 msg #147
Re: General Chat
Baogang vs. Lane, maybe?  Or Demchug vs. Whisper.

This message was last edited by the player at 07:08, Fri 16 Nov 2018.

Dblade
 player, 113 posts
Fri 16 Nov 2018
at 18:33
 msg #148
Re: General Chat
https://drive.google.com/file/...Jx0/view?usp=sharing

I gave Baogang a series of tweaks. Replaced Forceful Chi with Extra Attack, got rid of Push since it was hard to have at a high level without Forceful Chi, and got rid of Roll With Blow since I rarely used it even though it's potentially useful. also figured out I only needed to put two points into Breath Control.

I think since I'm using Judo as my base for Pressure Points, I didn't need Pressure Point Strike since it only happens as a secondary consequence of a successful Arm, Leg or Head Lock so the targeting penalty doesn't apply?

I used the freed up points from all this to buff Arm Lock and Pressure Points to reasonable levels and pick up Mental Strength, since I forgot it was on the Tai Chi Chuan skill list and I keep getting screwed by Kiai.

I dropped Fit and Ambidexterity and sacrificed a level of Enhanced Parry to pick up Combat Reflexes.

I'm hoping this build should work better given the lessons I've learned.
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