OOC about characters.   Posted by NO-BODY.Group: 0
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NO-BODY
 GM, 225 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Fri 19 Nov 2021
at 00:54
 msg #1
OOC about characters
this thread is for out of character discussions that are about your characters.
Kayleigh
 player, 1 post
Mon 22 Nov 2021
at 05:19
 msg #2
OOC about characters
Slowly working on my character and good day all

ETA to finish likely tomorrow eve barring work.
NO-BODY
 GM, 232 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Mon 22 Nov 2021
at 21:17
 msg #3
OOC about characters
If anyone has questions, please ask them.
Kayleigh
 player, 2 posts
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 02:10
 msg #4
OOC about characters
If you do not use a shield, do we still buy one or can we purchase a weapon of equal or lower value, ex Kayleigh uses a dagger +1 of return but no shield.  I am ok if I buy one and sell later.
NO-BODY
 GM, 233 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 03:03
 msg #5
Re: OOC about characters
Kayleigh:
If you do not use a shield, do we still buy one or can we purchase a weapon of equal or lower value, ex Kayleigh uses a dagger +1 of return but no shield.  I am ok if I buy one and sell later.


the starting items are not "bought" they are issued to you by the government when you volunteered to face the unknown threat.

if you don't use a shield you would not be issued a shield, if you are someone that dual wields or throws weapons, you would be issued a second weapon in place of the shield.

this game has very little buy/sell of equipment.

physical currency does exist, but the primary "currency" that will be used to get better equipment is your reputation.

when you need/want new, different, or better equipment you just trade in the equipment you have for the equipment you want.

if a wizard selects a wand for his "weapon" and fully depletes it, he just turns in the expended wand for a new one.

you are issued the equipment that you NEED to do your job well, if you can demonstrate that you need MORE equipment to be able to do your job then you will be issued the equipment.
Kayleigh
 player, 3 posts
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 03:38
 msg #6
Re: OOC about characters
Awesome and makes sense.

Next question is are we allowed to request items not in the book?
NO-BODY
 GM, 234 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 03:41
 msg #7
Re: OOC about characters
Kayleigh:
Awesome and makes sense.

Next question is are we allowed to request items not in the book?

like what?

you can ask anything.

if the answer is no, there will be a reason that makes sense.
Kayleigh
 player, 4 posts
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 03:47
 msg #8
Re: OOC about characters
OK example would be an as not much in way of clothing for someone that does not wear armour other than robes, requesting and enchanted outfit of armour instead of bracers of armour.  That type of item.
NO-BODY
 GM, 235 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 03:51
 msg #9
Re: OOC about characters
Kayleigh:
OK example would be an as not much in way of clothing for someone that does not wear armour other than robes, requesting and enchanted outfit of armour instead of bracers of armour.  That type of item.



so something like explorer's outfit that has a magic AC bonus.

yes you can do that.
Kayleigh
 player, 5 posts
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 04:04
 msg #10
Re: OOC about characters
Awesome

OK continuing on.
NO-BODY
 GM, 236 posts
 this is a paradox
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Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 04:10
 msg #11
Re: OOC about characters
Perhaps I described it poorly. But each character should have the tools to do their job well.

But it is up to each character to define what those tools actually are. Dont get hung up on the location of the body that the equipment is worn/used.

Focus on the fact that you have 14 "tools" and each has a value up to 15,000 gp (equivalent)

This message was last edited by the GM at 04:36, Tue 23 Nov 2021.

Kayleigh
 player, 6 posts
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 04:20
 msg #12
Re: OOC about characters
Funny that was one of the next questions.
NO-BODY
 GM, 237 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 04:32
 msg #13
Re: OOC about characters
A tool is also a very vague description.

It can be a hammer, or a lockpick...or a shield, weapon; or even a piece of clothing.
Kayleigh
 player, 7 posts
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 04:35
 msg #14
Re: OOC about characters
Probably as far as I will get tonight as work did call me in twice.

Still I am content with the headway.
Omalar
 player, 1 post
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 19:51
 msg #15
Re: OOC about characters
Nice to meet you.  I probably won't get my character finished until the weekend.  How many players are we looking to get before we start?
NO-BODY
 GM, 238 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 23 Nov 2021
at 20:36
 msg #16
Re: OOC about characters
I have hopes of 4-6, but I would prefer active players over a large cast.
Kayleigh
 player, 8 posts
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 03:01
 msg #17
Re: OOC about characters
Ok will not rush on mine which is fine as playing with some things now.
NO-BODY
 GM, 239 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 03:11
 msg #18
Re: OOC about characters
even if you make no progress, or even if you are making some.

I would like everyone to be in the habit of posting often.

even if it is just a hi/hello, or venting about your day.
Kayleigh
 player, 9 posts
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 03:51
 msg #19
Re: OOC about characters
NO qualms there on that.

I am going to try to focus again tonight but heart condition may flair up tonight which while not life threatening cuts me down in half for everything I do.
Kayleigh
 player, 10 posts
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 04:55
 msg #20
Re: OOC about characters
On a note I did not see anything about some below.

1)Character sheet has flaws, are we permitted to take flaws
2)If Yes to the above, is there a site or the like you would prefer us to use
3)Anything special we should be made aware of for feats?
NO-BODY
 GM, 240 posts
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Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 05:01
 msg #21
Re: OOC about characters
In reply to Kayleigh (msg # 19):

I can sympathize, one to two times a month I get heart burn so bad I can't form a coherent thought. It often brings on coughing fits, which causes me to inhale the regurgitated acid and then I have trouble breathing for 4-5 days.


If you want flaws you may select them from...

https://www.d20srd.org/srd/var...s/characterFlaws.htm

I don't currently see a need to point out anything special or specific about feats. If that changes I will do it here.
Kayleigh
 player, 11 posts
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 05:05
 msg #22
Re: OOC about characters
That I have too, thankfully I get the warning signs now.  I used to take Pepsid for it but the doctor got me on a new medicine which does not interact with my heart meds.

And I do understand asphyxiation sucks.  I luck out on that one as usually I have trouble breathing for the night.
Bai
 player, 1 post
 Ranger
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 18:01
 msg #23
Re: OOC about characters
How do you want us to find skills? Don't mind my silly questions, I'm still learning.
NO-BODY
 GM, 241 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 20:55
 msg #24
Re: OOC about characters
Bai:
How do you want us to find skills? Don't mind my silly questions, I'm still learning.

Could you re-phrase your question, I am not sure I am understanding what you are trying to ask.

The class skills for a certain class are listed with the class, I don't know of a class that doesn't.
Bai
 player, 2 posts
 Ranger
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 21:30
 msg #25
Re: OOC about characters
I mean in the character sheet, do you want us to generate them or take them from our classes and put them in the sheet?
NO-BODY
 GM, 242 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 21:51
 msg #26
Re: OOC about characters
Bai:
I mean in the character sheet, do you want us to generate them or take them from our classes and put them in the sheet?


the skills on your character sheet...I think i am still not understanding your question.

Are you asking what skills are class skills?
Or how many skill points you get?
Or how spending skill points translates to skill ranks?

Any of those would vary based upon you class that you have chosen.

If it helps feel free to info dump so I can get more context for your question. I have been running/playing for so long that I take many things for granted.

I appreciate every questions, keep asking them.
Bai
 player, 3 posts
 Ranger
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 21:58
 msg #27
Re: OOC about characters
Thanks, a number of DMs I've run into hat questions. Basically, how do I fill this out?

SKILLS
(class skill Max Rank = Level , cross class skill Max rank = level
class skill bonus = 1/4 class level (min 2)
“c” denotes a class skill, Total “--” Trained only

Class?
Skill Key
Ability
Total Ability
Mod
Ranks
Synergy
Misc
Armor
Competence
  Appraise            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Auto-hypnosis      Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Balance            Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Bluff              Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Climb              Str +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Concentration      Con +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Craft:
  - type?            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - type?            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - type?            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Decipher Script    Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Diplomacy          Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Disable Device      Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Disguise            Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Escape artist      Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Forgery            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Gather Information  Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Handle Animal      Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Heal                Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Hide                Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Intimidate          Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Jump                Str +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Knowledge:
  - Arcana            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Dungeoneering    Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Engineering      Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Geography        Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - History          Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Local            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Nature            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Nobility          Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Planes            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Psionics          Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Religion          Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Language:
  - Type              Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Type              Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Type              Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Listen              Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Move Silently      Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Open Lock          Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Perform:
  - Act              Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Comedy            Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Dance            Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Keyboard instr.  Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Oratory          Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Percussion instr. Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Sing              Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - String instr.    Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Wind instr.      Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Profession
  - Type              Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Type              Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  - Type              Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Psicraft            Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Ride                Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Search              Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Sense Motive        Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Sleight of Hand    Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Spellcraft          Int +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Spot                Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Survival            Wis +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Swim                Str +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Tumble              Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 -- 0
  Use Magic Device    Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Use Psionc Device  Cha +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
  Use Rope            Dex +00 +0 00 00 00 NA 0
NO-BODY
 GM, 243 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 24 Nov 2021
at 22:43
 msg #28
Re: OOC about characters
In reply to Bai (msg # 27):

Oh ok i think i see where I lost you.

the sheet I use for my characters are heavily formatted and that can be intimidating to even skilled people.

I am going to continue in a private message thread so that i can discuss specific example that relate to your character.
Kayleigh
 player, 12 posts
Fri 26 Nov 2021
at 03:54
 msg #29
Re: OOC about characters
Today and tomorrow are going to be swamped for me as US holiday and being in Canada I get to watch for the company.  Saturday barring really, really crappy weather I am moving my niece home.  Not sure how long that will take but I am also over half done.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 1 post
Sat 27 Nov 2021
at 11:30
 msg #30
Re: OOC about characters
Hello World!

Too cliche? Aside from populating the sheet and maybe a little fuzziness on equipment as I expect there is some sort of approval process for at least one item I chose...

How long have the characters been part of the same team?
Vait Ironhand
 player, 3 posts
Sat 27 Nov 2021
at 18:14
 msg #31
Re: OOC about characters
Vait Ironhand:
In reply to NO-BODY (msg # 4):

Has anyone seen remains or is the velocity so great when they ARE hit that they tend to significantly disintegrate? Are they accompanied by a buzzing noise?

In general, how 'old' is this conflict? It feels like the intent is; we are first generation of adventurers to deal with them. Is that right?

(post moved from another thread)

witnesses do report an accompanying sound when they pass, but it is not a buzzing....(that is something that should be asked about in character)
they move with such velocity that if they impact on a surface... (no one has done any research to discover more information)

the "conflict" is less than a month old.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 4 posts
Sat 27 Nov 2021
at 18:48
 msg #32
Re: OOC about characters
As to the other part how well should we know each other?

My character tends to play up the knight in shining armor routine, half of it is he loves to help people the other half is it leads to enemies underestimating him. Though if folks have some history his mom is(tentatively) a local kind of famous among adventurers.
NO-BODY
 GM, 244 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 27 Nov 2021
at 19:34
 msg #33
Re: OOC about characters
How well you each know each other is up to you as a players.

But there have never been enemies in the past. Any fighting characters have engaged in has been against wild animals (lions, tigers, and Bear) that are threatening livestock...or fighting in a training environment.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 5 posts
Sat 27 Nov 2021
at 20:15
 msg #34
Re: OOC about characters
No trolls taking sheep or ogres or less than amicable orcs?

Should Adventurers be seen like knight errants then, traveling MMA fighters... 'Sure we may have been professional rivals but never really wanted someone dead'?
NO-BODY
 GM, 245 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 27 Nov 2021
at 20:37
 msg #35
Re: OOC about characters
Vait Ironhand:
No trolls taking sheep or ogres or less than amicable orcs?

Should Adventurers be seen like knight errants then, traveling MMA fighters... 'Sure we may have been professional rivals but never really wanted someone dead'?



NOTHING bad has EVER happened...until the undead showed up 2 1/2 weeks ago.

traveling MMA fighters would be a good example.

competition always bringing out the bets in all sides.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 6 posts
Sat 27 Nov 2021
at 21:21
 msg #36
Re: OOC about characters
Some might be performers rather than fighters.

Dad would've been a performer but still not nearly as well known as mom's fighting.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 7 posts
Sun 28 Nov 2021
at 14:00
 msg #37
Re: OOC about characters
Also, should I have access to any in character threads? I'm asking because I feel like it is a thing but I'm not seeing any
NO-BODY
 GM, 246 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sun 28 Nov 2021
at 17:46
 msg #38
Re: OOC about characters
In reply to Vait Ironhand (msg # 37):

Once enough characters have finished their character sheets the threads will open to the group all at once.
NO-BODY
 GM, 247 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sun 28 Nov 2021
at 18:09
 msg #39
Re: OOC about characters
Some discussion about magic items has been going on in private threads.

If you want a custom item (an item not published in a 3.5 book) it is in your best interest to use the crafting chart in the DMG to estimate cost. The more thorough your attention to detail the easier my job as the GM is.

You as adventures are being equipped for your missions by a government with very deep pockets, the only limitations on the equipment you can have are...
1) carrying capacity
2) your character's reputation.

Character reputation is the biggest limitation.

So if you want something...ask...if calculating the cost on the crafting chart is intimidating...ask for help. I am happy to help.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 10 posts
Mon 29 Nov 2021
at 12:47
 msg #40
Re: OOC about characters
I wanted a clarification on the maths for a different idea so I edited a previous PM. I'm new to customizing magic items (which was already painfully apparent I'm sure)
Vait Ironhand
 player, 12 posts
Tue 30 Nov 2021
at 11:53
 msg #41
Re: OOC about characters
If we have a designated healer (or interested parties) Hide from Undead is a first level cleric spell that would look really good vested in robes, circlet, or bracers if you have a solid 1000 to invest (667 if your item is already class specific).

It is half useless to someone who plans on dealing damage or 'attacking', but a designated buff/healer is going to benefit until they choose not to.
Honey Suckle
 player, 15 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 00:20
 msg #42
Re: OOC about characters
I created a bard and got a csw wand.

But I am still playing with some stuff.

This message was last edited by the player at 00:20, Wed 01 Dec 2021.

NO-BODY
 GM, 250 posts
 this is a paradox
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Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 00:33
 msg #43
Re: OOC about characters
we have four characters

2 of which need to finish skills

all four are still in the process of fine tuning gear
Omalar
 player, 2 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 03:56
 msg #44
Re: OOC about characters
I'm playing a cleric.
Honey Suckle
 player, 16 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 04:06
 msg #45
Re: OOC about characters
For equipment other than one item all my things are book items.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 13 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 04:21
 msg #46
Re: OOC about characters
Soul Knife two weapon, finesse

A little feat expensive... And all items from books, more or less.

I haven't got all the skills input to sheet but know where skill points are going.
Honey Suckle
 player, 17 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 04:22
 msg #47
Re: OOC about characters
I have all skills in, just have to look at synergy if any, but otherwise still sleeping one more night on changes.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 14 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 20:01
 msg #48
Re: OOC about characters
If characters followed the combat League then here's a little bit. If anyone wants to have history with Vait directly then I'm open to it.

He was just starting to be a name in small circles of the Combat League. He is primarily a melee warrior as one may imagine but has a signature machete pair, when fighting in the League that obviously isn't strapped to him now.

Anyone who follows the rookies would likely know that he disappointed. His mom is a juggernaut who singly took on groups of summoned monsters for holiday special events. Overpowering individuals she ranked well as a rookie and showed no signs of stopping, even pregnant with him she only seemed fiercer though she didn't fight as much. Vait just... Seemed distracted when fighting in low rankings, like his pale violet blade and short sword were good but they didn't want to be there as much.

When the Dread appeared however, he had to get a few more ranks to be considered by the league to fight for survival of living kind. Apparently that was motivation enough for him as he began to slam through ranks, very near what his mother had done, until he was sponsored. Much of his current outfit is new or at least fancier than he had used in the league proper.
Honey Suckle
 player, 18 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 20:24
 msg #49
Re: OOC about characters
Sadly no Honey would not have any link coming from the forest.

Still working on backstory fully
Bai
 player, 7 posts
 Ranger
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 20:33
 msg #50
Re: OOC about characters
You have a good idea there Vait, I'll offer the same thing if anyone wants to be connected to Bai your more then welcome.

She was raised well out of the way of the city deep in the woods in a small community consisting of her family and several close friends' families. Her childhood and adult life has been filled with galavanting across the forest, hunting, and tree hopping, her family are what some might call overachievers so Bai and her siblings at largely competitive and skilled. Her family trades with Elves often and they live near a fairy tribe, so Bai is quite used to those peoples and that would be the most likely people she would know pre adventuring.
Honey Suckle
 player, 19 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 20:49
 msg #51
Re: OOC about characters
Bai you may have interacted with Honey who was raised by a dryad in the forest.

I would type more but at work still.
Bai
 player, 8 posts
 Ranger
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 20:58
 msg #52
Re: OOC about characters
I understand we can talk later. Do you want to connect to my character?
Honey Suckle
 player, 20 posts
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 21:00
 msg #53
Re: OOC about characters
I will say potentially, let us take this to PM but will warn I still have 4 hours more of work before making dinner and the likes.

I should be semi responsive this evening though.
Bai
 player, 9 posts
 Ranger
Wed 1 Dec 2021
at 21:09
 msg #54
Re: OOC about characters
No problem I'm the same, on-off, doing work in between.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 15 posts
Thu 2 Dec 2021
at 20:10
 msg #55
Re: OOC about characters
I hesitantly announce completion... Do I need to go through funding for the contents of my Haversack or can we just say that it has mundane supplies like ladder, rope, pitons, hammer, oil, parchment, and snacks?

Yes he doesn't NEED to eat anymore but I'll be damned if I wouldn't still pack some snacks because I liked the flavor.

To be more particular is there a specific region we are being sent to? Is it a patrol or an extermination or a recovery mission? These might alter what some people consider a preferred load out.
NO-BODY
 GM, 251 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 00:42
 msg #56
Re: OOC about characters
There is a mundane backpack each will be issued that is well stocked.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 16 posts
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 00:59
 msg #57
Re: OOC about characters
Yeah, but a regular backpack isn't a free action to get any item out of, unless you say it is...

I was wrong about completion. The boots of flying are actually a little over price can I have them anyway? If not I can make due with boots of speed...
NO-BODY
 GM, 252 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 02:02
 msg #58
Re: OOC about characters
Retrieving an item from a HHH is a move action.

A ladder does not fit in a HHH.

If an item is not at or under the cap it is not available.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 17 posts
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 02:10
 msg #59
Re: OOC about characters
Okay, no ladder and I've figured for boots of speed... But, barring you intentionally overriding the item description:

...While such storage is useful enough, the pack has an even greater power in addition. When the wearer reaches into it for a specific item, that item is always on top. Thus, no digging around and fumbling is ever necessary to find what a haversack contains. Retrieving any specific item from a haversack is a free action.

-Handy Haversack excerpt
NO-BODY
 GM, 253 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 02:33
 msg #60
Re: OOC about characters
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/mag...s.htm#handyHaversack

Still a move action.
Honey Suckle
 player, 21 posts
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 02:39
 msg #61
Re: OOC about characters
Only place I ever saw it as free was on

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/3e_SRD:Handy_Haversack

But I am tempted to go look at my 3e book to see if it is different.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 18 posts
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 04:30
 msg #62
Re: OOC about characters
Hmm. Well, then... A move action it is I guess. Much less useful I must say.
Honey Suckle
 player, 22 posts
Fri 3 Dec 2021
at 04:57
 msg #63
Re: OOC about characters
Thought I was done but missed languages and deciding on one alternate trait.
NO-BODY
 GM, 254 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 4 Dec 2021
at 15:00
 msg #64
Re: OOC about characters
here are some of the things that are holding up moving the group to RP thread

please fill out the Conditional modifier section for (AC, Saves, etc) it helps both the player and the GM keep track of where bonuses are coming from when they are replaced and upgraded.

AC chart- some need to fill the entire thing out, other need to itemize the source of bonuses.

over all we are 95% ready to begin.
Honey Suckle
 player, 23 posts
Sat 4 Dec 2021
at 15:16
 msg #65
Re: OOC about characters
That was my miss and also helped me see I had an error in my saves.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 19 posts
Sat 4 Dec 2021
at 19:45
 msg #66
Re: OOC about characters
Does the farmhouse have protections?

Is there a way we get made aware of local tears?

Should we post arrival or have we been there a while?

Were we shipped from a recruiter office to the house or just left to find out own way there?

How common are veritable hoards straining at gates?
NO-BODY
 GM, 257 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 4 Dec 2021
at 19:59
 msg #67
Re: OOC about characters
Vait Ironhand:
Does the farmhouse have protections?

Is there a way we get made aware of local tears?

Should we post arrival or have we been there a while?

Were we shipped from a recruiter office to the house or just left to find out own way there?

How common are veritable hoards straining at gates?


the farm house is un modified, and has not been repaired since the recent attack. but it has 4 walls and roof to keep weather out.

you can hear local tears when they happen, it sounds like reality is being torn asunder.

you are all just arriving.

you each volunteered, and were asked to go to the locations (follow that road for X miles). Because the previous residents died and the farm house is near a road that allows the team to respond quickly in many directions.

currently the government is not tracking any hoards, but they are still working at building information networks. the expectation is for the party to be the eyes and outer defense in the event that hoards begin to form.

so start with introductions, and go from there.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 1 post
Sun 5 Dec 2021
at 21:13
 msg #68
Re: OOC about characters
Hello there everyone. Corbin Wisecrest at your service. Your friendly halfling with a bit of a dragon's magic inside him.
Bai
 player, 14 posts
 Ranger
Sun 5 Dec 2021
at 22:17
 msg #69
Re: OOC about characters
Hello, Corbin. Glad you could join us.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 2 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Sun 5 Dec 2021
at 22:58
 msg #70
Re: OOC about characters
Glad to be here. I'll be working on getting him up and ready as soon as I can. Anything I should know/be looking at for character creation?
Omalar
 player, 6 posts
Sun 5 Dec 2021
at 23:14
 msg #71
Re: OOC about characters
Welcome!  Looking forward to meeting you in game.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 22 posts
Mon 6 Dec 2021
at 00:14
 msg #72
Re: OOC about characters
Hey there! Welcome to the team!
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 3 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Wed 8 Dec 2021
at 01:11
 msg #73
Re: OOC about characters
Corbin's finished and ready to go.
Bai
 player, 23 posts
 Ranger
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 01:20
 msg #74
Re: OOC about characters
Bai knows how to start a fire, as well as cook I believe.
Honey Suckle
 player, 39 posts
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 01:30
 msg #75
Re: OOC about characters
Yah Honey not so much in the cooking department.

Honestly hoping she rolls a 1 on her 1d20-1 (going to use profession roll)

On a note gm if magic is that prevalent for skills why not apply like a -5 penalty if they are trying something?
NO-BODY
 GM, 269 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 01:46
 msg #76
Re: OOC about characters
Honey Suckle:
On a note gm if magic is that prevalent for skills why not apply like a -5 penalty if they are trying something?

Because it is not hard to do ... Each of you is just not accustom to doing it.
Honey Suckle
 player, 40 posts
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 01:51
 msg #77
Re: OOC about characters
That is fair enough.

I will hope to post this eve I am just trying to finish up some work
Omalar
 player, 18 posts
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 01:52
 msg #78
Re: OOC about characters
Omalar is a bookworm, he won't be much use in that department.

I'm going out of town until Wednesday so after I post tonight or tomorrow morning I won't be around for a few days.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 31 posts
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 02:47
 msg #79
Re: OOC about characters
Cooking is science. Bookworms should have the data to accomplish stuff. Maybe not the direct skill but the synergy to at least give it a shot.
Omalar
 player, 20 posts
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 03:04
 msg #80
Re: OOC about characters
I guess that explains the extent of my cooking skills: with a recipe book I can prepare a dish and put it in a pot or oven and it will come out decent.  I'm not exactly looking give Fugu a shot though.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 9 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 04:22
 msg #81
Re: OOC about characters
In reply to Bai (msg # 74):

I have ranks in Survival, so I'm pretty sure I can find food, water, and make a fire.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 10 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 05:19
 msg #82
Re: OOC about characters
Just to clarify things, the Mournlands aren't a thing? Neither is the many conterminous planes and manifest zones of Eberron?
NO-BODY
 GM, 270 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 05:58
 msg #83
Re: OOC about characters
The war that created the mournlands never happened.

The mournlands suffers from weird magic but in this timeline it is because the creation forges of the warforge race. Which are located in the mournlands, draws and warps magic laylines. But the effects are well known and predictable.

Think of it not as a scar from war ... but the effects of magical industry that is pushed to it's limit.
NO-BODY
 GM, 271 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 06:13
 msg #84
Re: OOC about characters
Places like Sharn with it's manifest zones that enhance flight are common.

Connection to many other planes are limited or non existent.

I am reinventing the entire history as we go.

But as a general guide line ... If a form of magic can be used to better people's lives ...I has.


Take spells like trap the soul...serving as a form of suspended animation until the cure for a disease can be found.

I encourage you all to add to the history by redefining things in the best light, in ways that make things benefit the world...it may even be appropriate to rename effects.

Even small things like telling barrels to pour...think about all the insignificant things a character could take for granted...or why they don't.

What does a "plummer/electrician" look like in this society... someone has to maintain and build all the fantastic magical infrastructure.
NO-BODY
 GM, 272 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 06:15
 msg #85
Re: OOC about characters
That is the purpose of the dear diary NPC. To have a place to organize your thoughts as a player.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 32 posts
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 13:08
 msg #86
Re: OOC about characters
Kinda makes me want to change characters to make an artificer-loremaster 'Technician' to kind of explain how all the metamagic items are created, "I don't know about making a fire by rubbing sticks together but this stove is made for bulk food cooking, instead of heat metal on a plate it has a selective target burning hands spell so you can cook up to 15 feet of cookies and holiday food. Recommended for your industrial processing needs, sir"

The magical item of Rug of Welcome, casts Prestidigitation and Ghost sound to clean you off and notify the home owners someone wants to come in. Doorbell ditching pranks happens by running sidelong across the rug and escaping.

Most things should just use a modified 0-3rd level spell there is a lot there.
NO-BODY
 GM, 274 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 16:24
 msg #87
Re: OOC about characters
Vait Ironhand:
Kinda makes me want to change characters


Then do it.

The current in character thread is called day zero... because like a session zero ... I am introducing you all to my world.

Playing in and running a quasi-utopian, post scarcity world is new to us all.
NO-BODY
 GM, 276 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 16:36
 msg #88
Re: OOC about characters
You also have the option to play as a character that is a member of a re-enactment community full time. Playing as a "traditional" character.

The "down side" of that being that you don't instinctively know all the command words to activate all the "modern" magical conveniences.
NO-BODY
 GM, 277 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 16:41
 msg #89
Re: OOC about characters
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1...iron?ref=share_v3_lx"
NO-BODY
 GM, 278 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 17:11
 msg #90
Re: OOC about characters
Dont erase your old character if you want to build a different one.

I will open another sheet if anyone wants to build a new character.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 12 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 18:04
 msg #91
Re: OOC about characters
What about the Aeneal Elves? The Undying Court, which they can have access to as clerics, holds all knowledge on these things as members of the Court ascend and live as new members of the court in the Plane of Eternal Light. They also have their own special undead which are animated by this Eternal Light to help as servitors or as temporary vessels for the Undying Court.

Sorry if I ask too many questions here. Eberron is one of my favorite settings and I love doing deep dives into its lore for fun, especially since I used to run 3 games in Eberron: 1 in Sharn, 1 in the Lhazzar Principalities, and 1 on the high seas to the North.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 13 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 18:13
 msg #92
Re: OOC about characters
Also, since Eberron gains most of their magic through binding elementals to Dragonshards and dragonshards are very slow to grow back once mined, what changed in the way they enchanted things? Are the Dragonmarked Houses still a thing? I can't imagine in a perfect society House Thuranni, the House of Shadow associated with Assassination, sees much use. Nor House Deneith, the House of the Sentinel, if people are mostly at peace. Did the House of Vol ever manifest? Are Aberrant Dragonmarks still a thing?

So many fun questions churnning in my head, I'm sorry once again.
NO-BODY
 GM, 279 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 19:38
 msg #93
Re: OOC about characters
The individual races, (like the Aeneal Elves) still exist. But all races have a (unusual in other games) level of mutual respect and cooperation.

The lack of bad things happening has led to a slow but significant accumulation of dragon shards, the largest of which is often built into the foundation of buildings to enchant the entire building...or in airships, and the drive engine of lightning rails trains.

Dragon marked houses are quite large and typically live in the same regions of the world, but individuals freely move when new opportunities open.

House Thuranni exists and is full of skilled preformers and actors (Broadway, Hollywood, and Bollywood)
As odd as the house affiliation is they also excell at finding and moving (or in some cases removing) wild animals when they get too close to civilization. Serving as both conservationist and big game hunter guides.


House Deneith, the House of the Sentinel, still serves as the force that keeps everyone safe. Setting forth laws relating to fire and work place safety, and what magic should or should not be enchanted and or stored together.

House VOL manifested and while small, is comprised of, constructs,  deathless and undead. They serve as a means to do extremely hazardous jobs. Mine collapse response...gas leak repair... underwater welding and recovery...etc
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 14 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 19:44
 msg #94
Re: OOC about characters
So then the main reason weapons are still built today is to fight the elementals into submission for the purpose of the binding rituals and for hostile animals which now have joint responsibility between the main oganizations. Gah... this make me want to have fun with you by just asking a whole lot of questions in order to help develop this AU world with you.

Would you be okay with that, or would you like to reveal stuff in game. I don't want to take up to much of your time with my questions.

Also, I just fixed some of the misc. modifiers on my character sheet as I noticed I never accounted for magic items. I'm sorry about that. I'll go ahead and update the modifiers now.
NO-BODY
 GM, 280 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 20:00
 msg #95
Re: OOC about characters
Elementals are sentient beings.

Forcing them to do something they don't want to do is a "bad thing".

Bad things don't happen.

So...

The implied alternative is that there is some form of fair compensation, and that the binding is a volunteer process on the part of the elemental. Much like volunteer military service is in the real world.

The main reason weapons exist are...
...1) keeping wild animals away from civilization.
...2) harvesting of food.
...3) re-enactment societies (Renaissance festivals)
...4) collectors and museums.


I would rather answer questions now then later.

But let's do that simultaneously with in character roleplay.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 15 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Sat 11 Dec 2021
at 20:26
 msg #96
Re: OOC about characters
I guess I'm just fascinated by what would happen in the Houses. Would the House of Shadow ever have been split in the first place? Maybe just figuring out how each of the houses actually work would be a good start.

House Cannith has probably not changed very much, since the House of Making is still making things.

House Lyrander and Orien are still doing their things, with the Mark of Passage working the lightning rails and the Mark of the Storm dealing with Airships and Sailing vessels.

If there was still a split within House Philarn, it probably would not have resulted in Thuranni showing up at all.

House Deneith serving as a private law enforcement would make some sense, but that would still imply that there were still villains working in the background of things, so perhaps the veneer of a lack of scarcity is just that, only skin deep. Perhaps only Cannith knows how precarious the balance truly is, and they are just expertly managing it. Or perhaps Khyber is still a threat, just perfectly contained for centuries and likely will continue to be contained, if not by Deneith then by the Gatekeeper Druids.

House Vadalis, my personal favorite, is probably more focused on moving hostile animals to animal sanctuaries appropriate for them in addition to their animal husbandry practices.

House Tharashk is still seeking out the dragonshards, but their roles as expert bounty hunters is probably a bit diminished, or more for finding lost items/people. House Medani probably helps with that as well.

House Sivis, Jorosco, and Ghallanda probably have not changed at all, due to their practices focusing on Paperwork, Healing, and Hospitallity in general.

House Kundarak probably doesn't need to make prisons or banks, since no one needs to worry about stealing and crime is very infrequent, if it happens at all. However, they would still be the ones making the secured storage devices to keep magic items safe.

My thoughts on the matters at least. How close are they, since I'm sure we all would know each of the Houses and what they do on the surface level? I could be entirely wrong as well, but this is the stuff I love in Eberron in the first place.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 37 posts
Mon 13 Dec 2021
at 21:12
 msg #97
Re: OOC about characters
I submit Warforged are HomoncuWe here. The most advanced of homunculus put into positions where constant supervision is required and/or creative/equitable concerns are desired as they can be creative. They would have will of course and may want to do what they were designed or selected for better. None have had a lack of fulfillment or disrespect sufficient to want a different job. There may have been some who created others as a desire to experience family, many are workoholics though.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 18 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Mon 13 Dec 2021
at 21:51
 msg #98
Re: OOC about characters
Not sure about that, since they are made in the Creation Forges, not made with a sample of blood by the owner/creator. In addition, as they actually have a true soul, they would not be a homonculi by definition. Perhaps, since Mechanus isn't a thing in Eberron's Cosmology, we can just call the species as a whole Servos, as they are risen servitors. That could come with everything you have said without the need for the pain involved with the creation of a homonculus.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 40 posts
Tue 14 Dec 2021
at 03:11
 msg #99
Re: OOC about characters
That is better I think!
Vait Ironhand
 player, 42 posts
Tue 14 Dec 2021
at 14:16
 msg #100
Re: OOC about characters
Ooh, they might be people who chose to have their souls put into machinery as well.

It raises questions like, what is EXPERIENCE points really? Are they just key localization of connected memories? Does one have to get a fuzzier memory if they enchant items... You know the stories in general of everything you've done, you remember key actions and skills(hence levels) and could do it all over again... But do you remember the angle and bevel of tablet in the second story of the library?
NO-BODY
 GM, 293 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 14 Dec 2021
at 16:50
 msg #101
Re: OOC about characters
Vait Ironhand:
Ooh, they might be people who chose to have their souls put into machinery as well.

Not an unreasonable assumption, though though the mental flexibility required, would make that something that requires skill and training...of if it is to be a one way trip some significant adjustment to the new "body" and how to control it

it is also possible that an air ship pilot is a druid that can wild shape into any elemental they wish; and self-bind and unbind at will from elemental ships.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 43 posts
Wed 15 Dec 2021
at 10:30
 msg #102
Re: OOC about characters
I think that is more likely wizards or sorcerers with polymorph... Too much metal in most airships I imagine... But there might be a few out there I suppose with specially crafted ships.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 21 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Wed 15 Dec 2021
at 14:05
 msg #103
Re: OOC about characters
In Eberron, airships are made primarily out of a specific material called Soarwood. So Airships specifically are mostly wooden as that's what is needed to fly. However, I think you are right in that, especially since the druids or wizards that can transform into elementals can't do so indefinitely.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 44 posts
Wed 15 Dec 2021
at 15:03
 msg #104
Re: OOC about characters
Ok, MOST likely, the helm is a magical item that 3 times per day can turn someone into an elemental and bind... The ship to them...

"I am a leaf on the wind"

Would people in general have, a base AC of 8 rather than 10 because they are less careful, or penalties to saves that they have NEVER had to train with?

Maybe just their FIRST 3 are penalized, like having to roll to tie sandals and toggle cloaks... I think though that basic dressing is still a thing people do. That or we would have brought with us the tools of every day life. Those tools may look different but I wouldn't leave my house keys behind or my cell just because I go camping.

This message was last edited by the player at 15:11, Wed 15 Dec 2021.

NO-BODY
 GM, 294 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 15 Dec 2021
at 18:43
 msg #105
Re: OOC about characters
In reply to Vait Ironhand (msg # 104):

I think it might be quiet the opposite. Since people are ALWAYS seeing things as learning experiences.
...base ac would be 12 because while they many be less "careful" people in general learn from and teach each other about how to move safer when around dangerous situations.

...saves would be also get a +2 circumstance bonus for the same about reason and being a member of a society that is surrounded by oversaturated magic.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 45 posts
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 02:27
 msg #106
Re: OOC about characters
I suppose one could even argue it as an excuse to use gestalt rules... If everyone learns more because they aren't threatened and everything is working out optimally...
Bai
 player, 29 posts
 Ranger
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 02:35
 msg #107
Re: OOC about characters
It makes more sense because nothing is holding us back.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 23 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 03:19
 msg #108
Re: OOC about characters
Are we asking the DM to... change our characters to gestalt characters?
Bai
 player, 30 posts
 Ranger
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 03:21
 msg #109
Re: OOC about characters
I don't think we are, are we?
NO-BODY
 GM, 295 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 03:37
 msg #110
Re: OOC about characters
Bai:
I don't think we are, are we?


I don't know ...are you...?

This game while weird and based upon a crazy concept...only works if the players are having fun.

So discuss the PROs and CONs, then make a decision.

This message was last edited by the GM at 03:43, Thu 16 Dec 2021.

Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 24 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 04:12
 msg #111
Re: OOC about characters
Okay, I'll start with CONs to be contrary.

CONs
-Characters are already built
-Stat allocation has been set
-HP have been rolled, so if you would have a higher HD, could be problematic
-All this really just means more time.

PROs
-Characters would reflect these dual natured training described above
-Power level of the game would increase
-Potentially more fun after headache of rebuild is complete
-Can choose second class to better define characters without multiclassing

I just wanted to keep it short and sweet, since I do recognize that we are still technically in Session 0 in the thread and have more wiggle room.
Honey Suckle
 player, 48 posts
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 04:44
 msg #112
Re: OOC about characters
At one point I would say sure.  But also gestalt opens a new bag.  I would be fine with it but may want to look at other concepts because of new areas to work with.  I would say if so we would or should be locked at least into what we have.  Maybe some alterations or freedom to change parts so long as the base concept is there maybe.

As an example I would say I have to keep the half fey and bard but would be able to move the bard to the other side of the gestalt.  But still need to stay with my original concept.


That said I am good with group decision.
Bai
 player, 31 posts
 Ranger
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 04:44
 msg #113
Re: OOC about characters
I'll keep Bai as she is.
NO-BODY
 GM, 296 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 04:52
 msg #114
Re: OOC about characters
The amount of work to change a character is not a hurtle the players need to worry to much about.

I can crunch the numbers for each of you if needed.
Bai
 player, 32 posts
 Ranger
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 04:57
 msg #115
Re: OOC about characters
In that case how about we vote, if you don't mind doing the numbers I vote ai for a stat change.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 25 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 05:22
 msg #116
Re: OOC about characters
It's actually a tempting idea. My vote is s tentative yes, but I won't be saddened if we don't do it. Corbin is ready to go, but I might have to change magic items for a gestalt character.
NO-BODY
 GM, 297 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 05:42
 msg #117
Re: OOC about characters
Changing equipment would make sense, more then a few have expressed an interest in changing one or more of their pieces any way.
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 26 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 14:12
 msg #118
Re: OOC about characters
It's more that I would be needing open slots, meaning I would have to replace those items with something else.
Omalar
 player, 23 posts
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 17:41
 msg #119
Re: OOC about characters
I have been unexpectedly slammed the past few weeks and it's likely to continue until Christmas.  I've also really got no idea how my character is going to work to begin with tbh.  If we do decide to change to gestalt then I'd prefer to do it after we've at least established the plot and maybe had a fight.

As far as plot goes, it makes sense to me that the average person could be more powerful due to the factors mentioned, but it could also make sense that since there was no danger and magic items supplied everything that the average person was far weaker and advanced magics never even developed.  I don't see strong evidence for the circumstances of this plot to necessitate a drastic shift in the power of the characters in either direction, especially when we already benefit from our kingdom having way too much time and putting that time into magic items which are accessible to us.
Bai
 player, 33 posts
 Ranger
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 18:31
 msg #120
Re: OOC about characters
When you put it that way it makes sense to keep things as they are.
Honey Suckle
 player, 49 posts
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 18:44
 msg #121
Re: OOC about characters
If it comes to draw I will cast the vote of sure gestalt in case of tie breakers or you can just take that as vote as well as that is essentially what I am doing I guess.

:)
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 27 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 19:48
 msg #122
Re: OOC about characters
I can see it going either way here. As long as the rework doesn't take too long, I'm fine with going gestalt.
Artie
 Alternate, 1 post
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 20:16
 msg #123
Re: OOC about characters
Artificer here... With some crazy rolls for stats. If we get the XP and materials I think I can help with trimming down the equipment slots.

*Pets clockwork, dog-sized scorpion like a bond villain*
Vait Ironhand
 player, 46 posts
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 20:18
 msg #124
Re: OOC about characters
I wasn't asking to play it, I don't mind either way though my original concept had kinda planned on a prestige class... I think I can still make it a thing with base classes to dual up.
Bai
 player, 34 posts
 Ranger
Thu 16 Dec 2021
at 20:19
 msg #125
Re: OOC about characters
Welcome Artie, hope you enjoy your stay.
Artie
 Alternate, 2 posts
Fri 17 Dec 2021
at 11:11
 msg #126
Re: OOC about characters
You know I'm gonna have to catch some and attempt Retain Essence on them. You never know. Evil dead are different than regular undead after all.

Scipio here is Good after all.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 47 posts
Sat 18 Dec 2021
at 01:08
 msg #127
Re: OOC about characters
You know, unmaking someone else's homunculus is hurting them in a lot of ways. 2d10 damage to a class that may only have 3d6HP... And you get the XP they have invested in creation and improvements as craft reserve.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 49 posts
Tue 21 Dec 2021
at 20:08
 msg #128
Re: OOC about characters
Wait... are we all Artificers and we just failed UMD rolls when our machines break?
Corbin Wisecrest
 player, 28 posts
 Dragonfire Adept
 Adoptive Father
Tue 21 Dec 2021
at 20:27
 msg #129
Re: OOC about characters
Speak for yourself. I have very high UMD. ;)

However, fixing magic items usually require spells to do it, not just some handwaving or tricking the magic item. It doesn't usually cover the actual fixing either. Warlock and Artificers with their ability to mimic spells for making magic item don't make only a UMD roll, either. They make the UMD roll to mimic the spell, then a separate roll for the actual item creation.
Vait Ironhand
 player, 50 posts
Tue 21 Dec 2021
at 20:57
 msg #130
Re: OOC about characters
I was thinking real life... When my kid stops up the toilet, or can't print from their tablet... There are an odd series of parallels.

Maybe not making that second roll is why I'm not a manufacturer.

This message was last edited by the player at 20:58, Tue 21 Dec 2021.

Artie
 Alternate, 3 posts
Tue 28 Dec 2021
at 22:03
 msg #131
Re: OOC about characters
I think that for this to be a kind of heroic survival game you can say that the player heroes are the first resurgence of heroic classes in generations... So much so that people don't recognize it as they have been in a kind of automated artifice world...

Class specific items are simply dormant as the classes haven't been around. Museums and such might have them, classes may not be something people can recognize though. All the world is likely command word items that would be generic to task.

Made from schema and creation patterns that nearly anyone can use... 1 time a day. I think the factions and houses can't exist as people with anything more than dragonmarks for power.

Generic magic weapons and armor are sought after by those in the Fighting League for both style and effectiveness.

When this threat happens though, teams would form and people would have likely only been able to field a few teams confident and actually capable of fighting back. Depending on the frequency of the tears and their nature, it might be as little as hours before anything not in a big city might be overrun. Though that might take as much as years for the dead to spread far for significant damage to outlying areas to be noticed.

It might be months before people even accept that it is really happening to the world.
NO-BODY
 GM, 298 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 28 Dec 2021
at 22:20
 msg #132
Re: OOC about characters
I would like those characters that have unique class features to know their abilities.

something more like how the renaissance festivals and SCA... https://www.sca.org/ ... keeps the traditions of the middle ages alive in a novelty sort of way.

...or how there are still blacksmiths and cobblers in our real world...but they have gone from an everyday occurrence seen on every street corner ... to a rare specialty one must travel or go searching for.
Artie
 Alternate, 4 posts
Fri 31 Dec 2021
at 03:47
 msg #133
Re: OOC about characters
Okay... So any given feat, ability, or spell is available somewhere... Large population is most likely but each likely only has one Library and one Combat Training Barracks... There might only be one such place for all the world with Teleportation Circles that work off command words allowing anyone to use them. It also begs the question of what are the boundaries of cities.

Are you really in rural no where if you have half a day walking access to a Circle and can teleport to any major city virtually any time?
NO-BODY
 GM, 299 posts
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 I always lie
Mon 3 Jan 2022
at 19:08
 msg #134
Re: OOC about characters
In reply to Artie (msg # 133):

Teleportation circles large and small are integrated into the mail and mass transit system of the world. but the persons that mass produce the actual circles...that is likely the only thing that individual is good at.

Most long distance transit needs are met via the lightning rail system, airships, teleportation circles.

Short distance transport down the block or across town is largely handled by carriages drawn by horses (mechanical and organic) as well as arcanely enchanted vehicles and "pathways" through the city that give commuters the ability to fly when "on the path".


for reasons of keeping some things simple the population is not significantly higher then "cannon" ebberon. But when it comes to the "boundaries" between cities there is enough instantaneous travel options between cities and towns that a person could visit every town/village/city without actually stepping foot outside any of them long enough to truly understand the distance being crossed instantaneously.
NO-BODY
 GM, 300 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Mon 3 Jan 2022
at 19:13
 msg #135
Re: OOC about characters
NO-BODY:
that is likely the only thing that individual is good at.

these individuals are an example of someone so specialized that they do so to the exclusion of everything else. they are truly good at that one thing, but are incapable of doing anything else.
Honey Suckle
 player, 51 posts
Tue 18 Jan 2022
at 23:12
 msg #136
Re: OOC about characters
I think had not posted as I don't think gestalt final decision or I thought it was not made yet.

All good either way.
NO-BODY
 GM, 302 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 18 Jan 2022
at 23:21
 msg #137
Re: OOC about characters
Only one person has been discussing using gestalt, but no one has come out against it. but neither has anyone else joined the team for gestalt.

I would like more then one player to be involved in the decision, so i wait for some more input.
Honey Suckle
 player, 52 posts
Tue 18 Jan 2022
at 23:35
 msg #138
Re: OOC about characters
If it moves the game along then sure I will say aye to the gestalt (as I was on the fence before)
NO-BODY
 GM, 303 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Tue 18 Jan 2022
at 23:38
 msg #139
Re: OOC about characters
Honey Suckle:
If it moves the game along then sure I will say aye to the gestalt (as I was on the fence before)

I agree, zero movement is defiantly zero fun.
Omalar
 player, 24 posts
Wed 19 Jan 2022
at 00:21
 msg #140
Re: OOC about characters
I ended up signing up for some other games when this one didn't take off, so going to have to bow out.  Sorry, good luck.
Bai
 player, 35 posts
 Ranger
Wed 19 Jan 2022
at 04:46
 msg #141
Re: OOC about characters
Sad to see you go, I wish you the best. Aye for gestalt as well.
NO-BODY
 GM, 304 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 26 Jan 2022
at 22:21
 msg #142
Re: OOC about characters
I am assuming the silence is due to the tweaking of characters.
Just wanted to say hi.
Bai
 player, 37 posts
 Ranger
Wed 26 Jan 2022
at 22:44
 msg #143
Re: OOC about characters
Forgive my forgetfulness, but do you want me to fix my character or do you prefer to do it yourself?
NO-BODY
 GM, 305 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 26 Jan 2022
at 22:54
 msg #144
Re: OOC about characters
Bai:
Forgive my forgetfulness, but do you want me to fix my character or do you prefer to do it yourself?


Right, thank you.
Honey Suckle
 player, 53 posts
Wed 26 Jan 2022
at 22:59
 msg #145
Re: OOC about characters
Also honest I was waiting for final decision if we were to go gestalt or not.

I am guessing decision is yes and that leads to yes are we doing this ourselves or not, I am good with either.
NO-BODY
 GM, 306 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Wed 26 Jan 2022
at 23:06
 msg #146
Re: OOC about characters
Honey Suckle:
Also honest I was waiting for final decision if we were to go gestalt or not.

I am guessing decision is yes and that leads to yes are we doing this ourselves or not, I am good with either.


yes i am moving forward with gestalt.

If you want to modify your character your self, feel free.

but if like the person who asked for help modifying their character you have the idea of what you want but find inputting it very taxing...send me a private message and i will be happy to do the data entry.
Honey Suckle
 player, 54 posts
Fri 28 Jan 2022
at 04:39
 msg #147
Re: OOC about characters
I should be able to engage work on this on the weekend.
Honey Suckle
 player, 55 posts
Thu 3 Feb 2022
at 04:39
 msg #148
Re: OOC about characters
Had a hiccup at work this week (Massive layoffs) and while my job is in tact it has made my life busy.  I will try to get things up to finished by the weekend but my apologies.
NO-BODY
 GM, 307 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Thu 3 Feb 2022
at 23:28
 msg #149
Re: OOC about characters
life gets hard sometimes, I am glad you were not included in the lay offs.
Honey Suckle
 player, 56 posts
Thu 3 Feb 2022
at 23:35
 msg #150
Re: OOC about characters
Worst part is is that I have a big job coming up and because of all the layoffs and such they can't tell me a single thing.  So I am in limbo.

But hey I am still employed

:)
NO-BODY
 GM, 308 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 5 Feb 2022
at 18:20
 msg #151
Re: OOC about characters
One that I know for certain has finished the revisions to their character.
Honey Suckle
 player, 57 posts
Sat 5 Feb 2022
at 18:41
 msg #152
Re: OOC about characters
I am about 50% done.
NO-BODY
 GM, 309 posts
 this is a paradox
 I always lie
Sat 5 Feb 2022
at 18:48
 msg #153
Re: OOC about characters
Artie is close, only needing to re-spend some skill points and select their known spells
Honey Suckle
 player, 58 posts
Sat 5 Feb 2022
at 19:01
 msg #154
Re: OOC about characters
I plan on sitting down and finishing today at some point.  Just have to figure out if we are going shopping today or not as that will depend when I start.
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