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This message was last edited by the GM at 15:17, Wed 19 Sept 2018.

Hello

So those who can see this thread can begin their intros.
Each character may post freely the events that took place to get them to the Capital of Basir.

You can pretty much make up the background as you like. Please do not use any of the NPCs in who's who as those are for DM to NPC.

I recommend a few items to touch on.

1. Where you came from
2. Why you came to the city
3. Where are you going

The opening post is as you enter the city from the main southern gate. Read the info provided so your post is fitting to the city.

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And I recommend the Eye of the Orge (tavern/inn) for a drink or some rest.

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This message was last updated by the GM at 15:17, Wed 19 Sept 2018.

I should be able to finish my character sheet and post my intro in IC this evening

Posted my first entry in IC. :)

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 4):

please post freely I will reply as you go

In reply to Narrator (msg # 5):

Thelonius is walking over to his C.O.'s as ordered before reporting to his duties. Would the C.O. be the Captain of the Guard?

Okay background is done in my Character Sheet and posted my IC post.

I will add him to the Who's who new post.

You can continue to post freely and interact with him.

Esparam

It would be weeks, since there is a war btw nations that has started in the last 2 months and many trade ships are being stopped and boarded. Many check points as they look for weapons, armor, and other goods.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 9):

Just to make sure I understand, when you say nations, you mean Kalamar and other territories? Not principalities within Kalamar? So Pekal and Basir are at peace?
This message was last edited by the player at 00:13, Fri 21 Sept 2018.

In reply to Esparam (msg # 10):

I have to check which nations have recently gone to war.

Just that right now it embargoes and kalamar has offered coin rewards for any navy captain/pirate to sink the enemy
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:24, Fri 21 Sept 2018.

Aww maaaan, I'm sensing some Pekal(Esparam)-Basir(Thelonius) tensions within the group over those relics at some point haha.

In reply to Esparam (msg # 12):

Can't we just all get along! :P

Go go Thelonius getting the party together.

So I read https://sites.google.com/site/...rincipality-of-pekal
I realised Pekal is actually at war with the country between Pekal and Basir (which in retrospect, makes taking the sea to reach Basir much more justified).
Is Pekal also at war with Kalamar then?

We're almost there :)

@Caladin: what do I do now? Do I wait for Lord Katonis totell me where to go or can I run with this myself?

Also, what is my cover story for this mission? Think fast Gars!
This message was last edited by the player at 16:28, Sat 22 Sept 2018.

I hear taverns are good for hiring adventurers, and maybe go to some classy one to avoid cutthroats ;p

I don’t want to just walk away from Katonis without being dismissed first.

I think its important for those that may not know the kok setting.

Hobgoblins are a very cool race in this game. Of course in my style of play nothing is so simple. But I don't expect every player to know the ins and outs of the Hobgoblin but they should not be treated like some stupid humanoid or creature that is worth exps.

Just keep in mind that most know they are very honorable, its just understand their code that difficult.

Enjoy :)

I'm going to wait a bit for Thelonius to engage with Tarrano before posting more, so I guess "time passes a bit" for Esparam :)

ok so if you are not posting in IC intros. Please do.

You can start by entering the city and ending up in the tavern (one eye ogre) or waiting to meet up on the road (hint: headed south)

@Gars: Sander or Xander ? :s
You wrote Sander in post but your visible name is Xander

In reply to Esparam (msg # 22):

Sander no 'S'

Good catch :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:32, Tue 25 Sept 2018.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 23):

Man, make your choice, now you edited it to Zander with a Z ! xD
S, X or Z? haha

I'm being interrupted here as I write this stuff. >< Lol!
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:42, Tue 25 Sept 2018.

Spell checker is also kicking my ass!

That's on mobile devices

I am working from a tablet that has that annoying spell check.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 28):

Excuses, excuses :p

Ok things have settled down here thank goodness. We also have more momentum in IC: Introductions. :)

Yes! And from what I understand the others should join shortly!

Sweet!

Lmao

I was denided Adult access because they do believe I’m 18.
That’s peaches.

FYI
I’m sure I did not give my real info when I signed on. So I forgot what I did. Or I just made a mistake. Regardless. Keep your stuff organized or they will I’ll do the same to you. &#128512;

In reply to Narrator (msg # 33):

That's the same boat I'm in. I won't give out my real DOB to websites like this for security reasons. And I forgot what I put in.... And they won't ever change their mind so I just move on an limit myself to mature games.

In reply to Tarrano Grazlak (msg # 34):

I find it silly because all I have to do is make a new account.
But I happen to like my screen name.

Lol

In reply to Narrator (msg # 35):

You could make a new account but they are pretty good about tracking that down via IP addresses and having to go through the work around to create proxies and such isn't worth it.

I did the new account thing, they found and deleted it within 2 weeks.

no kidding. that's crazy

Well Thelonius and Tarrano are playing hardball on negotiations.

I think it’s ok now for the other players to also be part of the intros. Please post as sheets go through finial checkb and approval.

I was wondering what the definition of Honour was for hobgoblins. is it only about not cheating, being honest and similar, or does it also include glory, and possibly  seeking glory?
In other words, is honour for hobgoblins something you acquire by being honourable and recognised as such, or is it something that you actively seek to improve through feats and adventures ?

In reply to Esparam (msg # 40):

No it about physical abilities.

Just because your father what a great warrior, Chief etc. doesn't award you and extra privilege. In fact it just means that you have even more to prove (in some cases)

Show read about the salve that was freed because of a swim race. LOL. sound funny i know. I will look for it and post. I think it was a character that played it out very well.

A story at a tavern, .............

A group of adventures are traveling off the road, 'I forget the reason why, but it's not important too this story'. These adventures see a large group of 30 or so by a river bank and they looked like slavers. Now in some places slavery is welcomed but in these lands it's far from ok. But of course like in many far away, wild and uncivilized areas if there is no laws then the strong will prey on the weak.

Now for a hobgoblins if you can not defend yourself then you deserve slavery, or servitude of some kind.

This group of hobgoblins had 3 slaves in a cage they were going to bring them to Kalamar for slave trade, .... And one adventure was a holy knight, a Paladin of the most holy order. Now the Paladin was no match for 30 well arms and seasoned warriors. But the law of the land and his moral compass demanded he free these slaves.

Before a weapon could be drawn. The hobgoblins greet the adventure warmly and offer food, drink and to share their camp. These were no beasts or savages of the mountains these were honorable creatures and war veterans. The adventures quickly held the arm of their paladin and reminded him that taking a life without cause is just as bad as slavery. And so they held back and took the hobgoblins offers.

After hours of conversation, talk of battles and the wonderful accomplishment of their days. The hobgoblin leader finally calls out the paladin. As he sensed the paladin was unconformable and unhappy with many things he said.

Now this is the hard part, ... too really understand - the hobgoblin heard these stories and the wondrous creature the paladin claimed victory over. So in the eyes of the Hobgoblin, he felt defeating the paladin would give him that glory as well. The hobgoblin leader also knew that the questions and behavior of this party of adventures - well lets say that they were trying very hard to free the slaves, and they did not have enough gold to buy their freedom.

Now 30 against 5 was no contest, so there was no honor to gain by slaughtering these adventures. The only way the hobgoblin could truly win was to best the paladin one on one. But killing the paladin would taken away a great warrior and that too would not help the Hobgoblin gain the glory & honor he was looking for. So to prove to his follow hobgoblins that he was as great as the paladin the hobgoblin challenged the paladin. Now the paladin did not understand when challenged it's not a always a contest of combat.

When the paladin agreed and started to get ready for a fight, the hobgoblin began to undress. The adventures thought this Hobgoblin, was crazy, .... or going to fight in his undergarments? Just so happens the hobgoblins says 'I never said the challenge was for combat', this challenge is a race. A race to the river and the first to swim across keeps the slaves with no future talk about the matter. But the price for the paladins failure would be the paladin's service to him - the paladin would be the hobgoblins slave for life.

First never agree without fully understanding the terms.

So, ... to speed up the story, the paladin prepared to ran to the river and swim across.
The event was monumental the speed and will to win was so strong in both. And the hobgoblin was winning just until the end. When at the last moment the hobgoblin gave to the river current. Now the question left for the paladin was to finish and win or save the hobgoblins life.

The paladin and in all his goodness picked to save the hobgoblin which allowed the hobgoblin to reach the shore first. So now what happens to the slaves?? Well believe or not the hobgoblin claims the victory, and says I reach the shore first and so "I Win", paladin you are a foul, .... and the paladin says but I saved your life, you now own me a life, and since one slave is not worth the life of a hobgoblin nor is 3 slaves worth the life of such a great warrior, what are we too do?

BUT perhaps 3 slaves and the life of a great holy knight is worth one hobgoblin.  The paladin smiles and they both return to the fire and keep camp until the next day, where the hobgoblins turn home and adventures leave with their freed slave.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 42):

Thanks, pretty interesting read and gives a good grasp of what is meant by honour for hobgoblins.

In reply to Esparam (msg # 43):

Thanks

That was actually played out with characters in one adventure. It was so cool.
I think it was my last table top group.

ITs not exactly what happened but pretty close.

with everyone, not to be played out but just to keep i will move the story to the Infomation post as a bards tale

Come on, Gars, give in and hire us :p

Hey everyone, nice RPing I have some OOC for each of you.

Nothing to do with your characters, but we need to form the group or there is no adventure. I like you are playing your characters as true as can be. BUT if some type of compromise doesn't happen we don't have an adventure.

Thelonius can't offer what the Characters are asking for. He could lie?? but then thats not his character. The players don't want to show their player knowledge as part of the characters. Excellent, and great RPing.

I will have to ask for rolls before the sense end if its not role-played out.

Thekonius makes a Charisma check, or related social skill test and a post, if successful players most reply in character to agree. Players can contest the roll if they like.

Hope it can be RPed :)

Some private message for the players

I rolled a 6 + 1 = 7 for Charisma check. :(

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 49):

Dude you suck LMAO

In reply to Narrator (msg # 50):

plus i would have given this more thought, I think your skills may have been a better pick but regardless the role was low.

Ok well I would have used diplomacy since you have a +2

It would still be 6 + 2 = 8, a crappy roll.

The way I let them leave is a good way to reflect this bad roll imho.

Its still a contested roll.

The DC is 8 for the players, ....

Yup haha

Diplomacy 16
Sense Motive 13 to try to figure out if Thelonius is playing hardball or is really not able to meet Tarrano and Esparam's demands.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:27, Thu 27 Sept 2018.

I don’t have to do a counter roll correct? Just waiting on Caladin?

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 56):

If Thelonius is genuine, I don't think so, otherwise Bluff? It's probably better to wait on Caladin!

In reply to Narrator (msg # 48):


Is this a contested diplomacy roll or sense motive?


If this is a diplomacy roll I have a modified 0. If it is a sense motive roll I have a 2.


13:34, Today: Tarrano Grazlak rolled 1 using 1d20 with rolls of 1.

If it is both then I have the following:

Sense Motive of 11 after the 0 Diplomacy.

13:36, Today: Tarrano Grazlak rolled 10 using 1d20 with rolls of 10.



As an aside i hope I start rolling better.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:37, Thu 27 Sept 2018.

Correct you set the DC with the first roll. On sense motive so no counter because you were not bluffing or hiding your feeling.

So this was perfect, the rolls all made sense and the posting was appropriate. Nice work everyone, no edits on my end at this point.

I've edited my last post in IC to include Esparam's plan for the day.

Time can pass for him until early morning of the next day, unless you want to RP something, Caladin (like, meeting one of the yet-to-be-introduced characters or something).

So Our first "Time Passes Segment"

Each player freely posts a closing post, the longer the better.

The post should not be interaction with the other player but can have assumptions personal thoughts and or non-related adventure story line a memory etc etc.

Example:

Borohorn looks into his empty mug of ale, ....

What an interesting today it was, I finial reached Basir and in all its wonder its still like any another city of this size. I will say the people are friendly to me, I meet this human today, he spoke of an interesting adventure, I will set out with him and maybe a few others to the sands and hot sun of the desert. He says he has a map and it will lead to some lost temple. You know these these types they always cover their statues in gold and gems. I guess we shall see if this map is real or not.

OOC Time pass as my dwarf gets a room and stays the night, since no one said where to meet I think the tavern is going to be home base and will stay here the night I will wait for early morning for their arrival.

So does Thelonius provide loaned horses? It wasn't really clear to me.
Because if he doesn't, Esparam may come back with a donkey

In reply to Esparam (msg # 63):

Well the price oh I way to travel there is really by ship. Will cut travel time by half more more.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 64):

We buy a donkey after we arrive to our final port. It can serve as the parties beast of burden but mainly for Esparam.

Carrying Capacity
A light load for a donkey is up to 50 pounds; a medium load, 51-100 pounds; and a heavy load, 101-150 pounds. A donkey can drag 750 pounds. 8 gp to buy.

Probably best if The donkey is used only for Esparam's character since its carrying capacity is a little low.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 66):

I'm just over by 12ish pounds, so it's totally shareable. Then again with a fighter and an hobgoblin, I don't think you guys really need help with carrying stuff, do you? :p
Hopefully the other characters won't need help either

Or, we all chip in for a light horse (150/300/450)

In reply to Esparam (msg # 67):

I don't see Tarrano or Thelonius needing a pack animal. I would assume the rest of the party will not need one either.

I was under the impression that I can get horses or at least pack animals as part of our supplies. Whether we get it here in Baris or in our final port. :/
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:51, Sat 29 Sept 2018.

The current IC players can post with one - the longer the better post closing the events of the first day.

Staying at this tavern will not be an issue there is room.

Any special items to buy most first be requested. All standard items can be found in this city and the price will be normal as per players-handbook and or KOK equipment guild book.

Masterwork is available and is average price as per books.

NO magic item can be bought - FYI I normally do not have nor are they normally available to buy in the game in general. There is no-such thing as a common magic item, but some are more available then others.

Scrolls and potions can be found in the right shop. And some have a heavy premium. Healing potion is anything would be on the common side of the conversation :)

I will start the second IC which will be IC:Day 2

In reply to Narrator (msg # 69):

the question is more along the lines of how much is the empire funding this expedition so we have a general idea of what can be requested. Say like 50 GP tops, more? Less?

Its not an amount, its the type of items.

If you want mountain climbing gear it would be a no, because your not expect to be climbing any mountains in this adventure.

The talk about horses, I would say no also, because the area is a swamp region. Horses would be a waste of money. Not that it couldn't just doesn't make sense, if you have a special ride or already had a horse fine but to buy one. Not yet.

Funds for a guild when you get closer maybe a good idea, or a river/flat boat to work your way could work.

Think New Orleans - marsh lands and swamp regions. It is walk-able, but not fast or in a straight line.