This thread is to discussion characters and start creation on your character. All players are asked to help with any new player joining us. Players should not discuss the setting in detail or the current campaign unless its directly part of the creation process.

Once a firm decision is made on a character it should be moved to the character sheet. I will need the name chosen so I can give you the rest of the access of RPoL's wonderful hosting tools available to us here.

I have a HTML sheet that will be used. If you are not familiar with this I can simply do this for you (when done with your creation) and also help show you how to use HTML. Once this is done it will become finial for the duration of the character.

Once you have chosen a Region, House and Character Name your Discussions will be moved to that Group and you will be able to discuss more about your ideas in the House Planning thread, - So that the information can stay within your chosen group.

YOU CAN NOT PLAY EVIL CHARCTERS

 The character you create most be able to join the group as a whole or in some way. At some point players may choice to venture off for a solo or separate into more then one group. This is completely OK.

 Evil for now will be defined as characters with social disorders that they can not control their actions or loyal servants of some type to darkness or the underworld.

 I understand this is a tuff topic so we can use the open discuss thread to work on this more and I will change this post to reflex the same.

So far one player has picked a Hoplite - Imperial Warrior
This is one of three home brew classes for the Kalamar game and players can pick from

https://sites.google.com/site/.../alt-classes/hoplite

Also if a player would like to be nobility they can take feat Noble Born free
just remember that you can not be the first born with rights to take over a house or thorne.
Also you can not pick the imperial house.
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:59, Thu 13 Sept 2018.

I am looking at a Hobgoblin. Likely Monk or Rogue.

Nice. Hobgoblin in this game have a whole list of stuff.
Keep in mind they are very honorable in their know interesting way.

I'm leaning towards a Barbarian Beserker, probably of Fhokki or Dejy ancestry.

In reply to Anachronist (msg # 5):

dejy are a mix or indian/desert people
very cool lands can be an interesting character

Fhokki are your northern style and very fit for the barbarian. and beserker.

Im sure both can be played well in the class. and very different in RPing style

In reply to Narrator (msg # 4):

Yep. I had a Hobgoblin Fighter/Paladin that I got up to 23ish in Kalamar the last time I played this setting.

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 7):

Excellent.  Looking forward to your character.

let me know if you plan to use one of the sub-races for hobgoblin

In reply to Narrator (msg # 8):

I will have to look them over again.

if any needs me to input the infor on the character sheet let me know

if new to Rpol it takes time to learn how to insert the info

In reply to Narrator (msg # 10):

I just wish RPOL and mobile got along better.

In KoK players are heroes and their stats reflect the same. This means that a player is better than average and there stat should reflect that, normally a player character will have a stat no lower than 10, but to keep the game from becoming high fantasy no higher than 20.
The player has a few chooses for stats, they can use the 17 down format or roll 4d6 keeping 3 anything lower than total 10 becomes a 10. In all cases a 2 for 1 rule applies. 2 for 1 rule applies to all form of character creation to allow the PC to mold his or her character into the vision that he or she wants without mega-gaming.

What is the 2 for 1 rule?
After placing a number (regardless of which form used) to a stat, you may subtract 2 points form a stat to add 1 point to another, all racial and character creation modification cannot total greater than 20. Or go lower than 10 without OK form the GM. Racial adjustment are done last, and still follow the Min of 10 and max of 20 for any stat.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 12):

17 down format? Never heard that before. I'd hazard to guess start with a 17 and then each stat is 1 less?

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 13):

Yes

As of now we have the follow character ideas

At this time no restrictions if the class comes from a core book or a KoK book
And or Listed in my site

Hobgoblin -
Human - Imperial warrior
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:30, Fri 14 Sept 2018.

Some more info on the 17 down format.
You can also use the 2 for 1 rule.

You can place the numbers on any stat (17,16,15,14,13,12) you can make your intelligence 17 or charisma. Also you if you want an 18 just take one stat and lower by 2 and increased a different stat by 1. (This is the 2 for 1 rule).

My choice is for a human druid, a gnarly-looking fellow with questionable hygiene.

In reply to Basolek (msg # 17):

Nice!  lol ... how questionable ?

Are we talking in need of a bath or run if to close ??

Probably no more odorous than a knight in his plate, but possibly with enough twigs and leaves in his hair and clothing to make several nests, or a bag of garden mulch.

I might play a fighter legionnaire/centurion

Need to know basically if your characters every served in the Imperial Army.

Its a requirement if interest in full citizenship in kalamar and yes you can still keep all of your class ideas and storyline.

In reply to Basolek (msg # 19):

ok i think i can see a younger version of Radagast, The Brown

In reply to thattripletguy (msg # 20):

https://sites.google.com/site/...e/hoplite-legionaire

My idea is for a Kalmaran Healer.

In reply to Shandar (msg # 24):

fyi
being Kalamaran just means where you come from its not a race
so player should remember this because yiu can be kalamaran as a dwarf or elf etc

I was considering my character having served, or currently serving as something like an enlisted Foederati.

It seems like the group is heading in that direction?

You should make what you want. Yes, I think most will be in service or have served. To be a lawful citizen requires service and to be a noble you are required to serve so if a player takes the free feat they do have to add military serve to their history and background.

Please post race and class ideas and rquests.

GeneralGars hherehope everyone is well. Shoutout to Sombre! How are ya man?

I'll be playing an Imperial Hoplite. Think '300' and 'Troy'

So we have a Healer (Priest), Druid, Hoplite, and my Hobgoblin (monk or rogue?) So far?

My Hobgoblin (Taranno) will have definitely served in the army as a scout if a rogue, and likely as a monk too

Hi everybody,

I am another new player. What kind of character does the group Need? A thief or something else?

Looks like we will need a wizard or rogue. We have a Fighter-Type, Druid, & my hobgoblin which I'm leaning towards Monk but a Rogue/Fighter sounds interesting as well.

Either way for the DM. My Hobgoblin will be a Kargi of the Brindonwood with Clay Red-Orange skin.

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 32):

 Nice. I will add the info on the website for the hobgoblin over th next few days

This message was deleted by the player at 19:13, Sat 15 Sept 2018.

I'll go with a human wizard.

Can't find it, so: what is the starting level and money? Thx.

In reply to Shandar (msg # 24):

Let me know what deity he belongs to. I might pick the same one.

In reply to Boldran (msg # 35):

players will start at 1st lvl

and moeny is per book roll and use to by items

weapons amd armor will be assigned actuall you make the request and i will see what we can work out
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:04, Sat 15 Sept 2018.

Okay decided on a rogue. And likely will try to multi to fighter at some point.

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 38):

Noble Born ?

Kalamaran ??

In reply to Narrator (msg # 39):

He's from Brindonwood. That's the northern forest in the central area. He serve(d/s) as part of the military as a forward scout.

I'm still debating if he is noble borne or not yet.

Kalmaran is a stated sub-race of human.  As far as a deity I will be worshiping the Kalmaran version of the Eternal Lantern (Dirasip).  Using the D&D conversion of Pelor for The Eternal Lantern I will be going with Healing an Sun domains.

Which brings up a problem with domain powers.  The Sun Domain allows for a greater turning of undead.  Yet the Healer does not show having the ability.

In reply to Shandar (msg # 41):

I have some of that info ready from a character once before.

see info on god

https://sites.google.com/site/.../the-eternal-lantern

I haven't played 3.5 in a long time, so I'm very likely to pick the previous character I played with Caladin, which was a human wizard (diviner, noble/diplomat kind of character). I'll try to sit down and look into it soon.
Do we have all we need for a balanced party?

In reply to Sombre (msg # 44):

I'm ok with that.

I think I will be a chieftan's son, 2nd born or so. I believe the hobgoblin if brindonwood are more of the wild and less civilized sort. Correct me if I'm wrong

Please change my name into William.

And please provide me with a character sheet, char should be ready then this evening.

Thx.

I'll go with "Hakon" for mine please.

I have "Balan" as my PC's name.  I may be wrong with this but I am guessing that you mean I don't have it as a class special.  I can still take it as a feat.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:26, Sun 16 Sept 2018.

Hope I got this right...

Human Hoplite (fighter type) - GeneralGars (you can call me Gars too)
Rogue Hobgoblin - RanzarthPhx
Human Wizard - Boldran
Human Diviner Wizard - Sombre
Healer - Shandar
Human Druid - Basolek

I probably missed someone.

We have a squad of spellcasters. If anyone else joins in I hope they play a warrior type.

Lots of spellcasters is a good thing too...
This message was last edited by the player at 01:01, Mon 17 Sept 2018.

Human Barbarian here.

To Boldran:

Hey :)

I just updated your character sheet if your not familiar with this type of sheet or code let me know I can help as we go.

Best thing to do is play with it worst that happen i delete and start again.
you can you rmail to hold notes on the character of the character creation thread to do the same.

Once the start up character sheet is done they I will be set for only GM to edit and I will update as we play.

Thx and sorry, I would like to play a bard. No further changes, promise.

In reply to Boldran (msg # 53):

Its cool you can change up all you like. I rather see that now then later.

And even later if you change your mind we can phase a character in/out.

Since I think the game will be somewhat in service to the empire I can see the group changing and evolving over the game.

FYI

I have a info for gods from D&D to KoK on the game website

I have changed things so it reflects real world religion. In real world there were many names for the Greek gods as they were similar to the roman

ie Aries the god of war, who to the Romans was Mars

Deity known as The Eternal Lantern is Lawful Good, favored weapon is the mace, symbol of the deity is a half of a sun shining over the horizon, and divine focus is a shiny emblem bearing a half sun. Pelor is the same god in every way Pelor is like saying Jehovah to a Catholic.


there are Showing 476 names of D&D gads from several game worlds and system all can be translated to this game as needed.

In reply to Boldran (msg # 53):

Hey

I looked up the gods name and i don't find it in any game system as a god with detailed info need you to tell me where it came from ??

RACE

Tyle and or subtype for human is Kalamaran or Brandobiavan etc
for elf it would be High, Grey, Drow etc

Actually IT should look like

Human-Kalamaran
Basir Citizen

or

Elf-Drow
Birkwood Forest
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:56, Mon 17 Sept 2018.

Human Hoplite (fighter type) - GeneralGars (you can call me Gars too)
Human Barbarian - Anachronist
Rogue Hobgoblin - RanzarthPhxm
Bard - William
Human Diviner Wizard - Sombre
Healer - Shandar
Human Druid - Basolek

This is a great mix of classes! Nice party!!
This message was last edited by the player at 18:28, Mon 17 Sept 2018.

Please change my name into William, thank you.

In reply to Boldran (msg # 59):

Done :)

In reply to Boldran (msg # 59):

Edited to William.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 61):

Yes

Don't forget to change my name to GeneralGars. Thanks Paladin!

I meant Caladin. Damn auto correct! ><
This message was last edited by the player at 18:36, Mon 17 Sept 2018.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 61):

Also you list list i used to update the other players.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 64):

I don't know what you mean by that.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 63):

You player name is generalgars

once i update the game it shows you character name in posts.

I forgot how to allow to drop down menue.
could only be for NPCs ?? i'm still checking

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 65):
Human Hoplite (fighter type) - GeneralGars (you can call me Gars too)
Human Barbarian - Anachronist
Rogue Hobgoblin - RanzarthPhxm
Bard - William
Human Diviner Wizard - Sombre
Healer - Shandar
Human Druid - Basolek

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 63):

LOL, that's ok since that's were i got the name from.

My favorite class and character is a Paladin and so i come up with Caladin back when i was 15

The good years when playing D&D in the basement was the only thing to worry about.

How would noble born apply for a more wild group of Hobgoblin's of the Brindonwood? At least the way I understand them.

Trying to think of what and how that would effect Tarrano as a scout for the army.

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 69):

I don't think it would apply at all

If he is a true hobgoblin then he wouldn't care about if the court recognized a claim in his world he has what he has earned. No one can take it away become it becomes part of his honor.

A title is actually worthless in his eyes. No one can be born with honor it has to be earned. So he would actually think that all the nobles who did not see combat are week and even in some cases lesser then him. Regardless if he is called "lord" or anything similar its meaningless.

And they run a chieftain structure so in his circle again its not relevant. BUT if he has been in human culture all his life then he may not even know his heritage so that up too you.

I did not have time to add in the race of Hobgoblins ie for RanzarthPhx character

i will try tomorrow

BUI i did add in a whole lot of info and some update on Pekal and Basir on the website.


https://sites.google.com/site/...lamaran-empire/basir

Look atthe bottom there are also links

I have some edits to do for tomorrow please hold off on reading the new info
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:19, Tue 18 Sept 2018.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 70):

Yeah that was why it was bothering me. I couldn't see how it would effect him really. Unless the humans recognize him as the chieftain's son and creates some clout for him. But he as a hobgoblin would look at them and ask why they do not fight (earn) for their rights to be called a lord, chief, king or what ever noble title they want to take.

Now that is settled though, not considered Noble born. Need to finish up my character.

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 72):

I agree. Doesn’t fit a true hobgoblin in this setting.

I am still finalizing my thoughts, but my character sheet is mostly finished.

Items up for change:

• Feat
• Skills due to Feat Purchase

I noticed a comment earlier in the thread about a free feat for having served. Does anyone have a link to that, or can confirm it? If so, is it conditional (from a small list or the like), or is it just a free feat from the overall list?

You can change out the druid's name as Catweazle :)
This message was last edited by the player at 21:34, Tue 18 Sept 2018.

In reply to Catweazle (msg # 75):

link to a message in this game

Player Characters can have the below feat for free. NPC's or others need to use their class feat and normal creation to pick this feat if they are nobles. Keep in mind to have a tile it is not required but without the feat the social position can be challenged in game.


Noble Birth [General]
You were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, and raised from a young age to represent your family and your social caste.

Prerequisite: Born into a Noble Family

Benefit: Diplomacy and Knowledge (Nobility and Royalty) are always considered class skills for you. Also, if you gain the Leadership feat you receive a +2 to your Leadership score.

Special Notes: In the Kalamar Empire, to be a lawful citizen and receive the rights that come with citizenship you must serve in the Imperial Army. Proof of serves is required in the form of documentation when service is completed. Without citizenship one is subject to the mercy of those who are. Nobles are not exempt from service and have the greatest to loss since land and titles are links to citizenship. This requirment is only in Kalamar and its city-states.

I see, so the only free feat available is Noble Birth. I got the impression contextually that the others were talking about a free feat for simply having served in the army, I must have been mistaken.

In reply to Catweazle (msg # 78):

Just noble born

Just checked my old 3.0 KOK book.  So change of gods and go with Lord of Silver Linings.  Thus for domains I will be taking Healing and Renewal.

Sun is a good domain for fighting undead.  The other Domains for the two gods with this domain did not cover healing.  To me healing is far more important then fighting undead.

When you say healer do you mean cleric ?? as the class.
I ask because there is a healer class (not sure which book)

Also I do remember a player as a healer/ class cleric that had stuff vs. undead and healing.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 81):

Other than background Tarrano is complete if you want to look him over and update my name to Tarrano

Do hobgoblins count as goblinoid for the racial feats? Might be a last minute change on feat selection.

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 83):

I believe yes will check now

YES, in monster manual 3.5 is goblinoid
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:14, Wed 19 Sept 2018.

How are you handling multi-classing? I'm looking to multi Fighter.

FYI

I'm almost done with the Capital and related Kingdom information.
I have started the intro and it will be ready very soon for opening IC posts.

I will add a few more threads like an OCC and the secret "lord & ladies" thread. I will explain more about these thread soon.

So once I have character sheets and info posted and ready we can officially start.
Please keep in mind that we most have the core ready if you what to post. If not ready by Monday that's fine but the other players will get to begin. and this mean you may have to wait for an intro.

Lets set a dead line excluding my royal mess up with a deleted player :(

That by Monday all character sheets will be done and IC will open to start.

In reply to RanzarthPhx (msg # 85):

Same as 3.5 core D&D

FYI

looks like 3 player are almost ready

BUT the rest seem to needed maybe some help

Please share links and info to help our follow players finished characters

Thanks

I should be done soon with my own character (mostly a matter of editing the character sheet) and can help if necessary.

Still rebuilding.

Working from mobile so it's taking awhile.

In reply to Hakon (msg # 90):

Its ok. i understand i just keeping everyone in the loop and motivated :)

I always feel i am the pone that keeps the pace going :)

Thelonius

If you can work on your Description

and your all done

I'll be ready this evening or tomorrow, tough hours at work.

I understand
TY for the reply

Are we assumed to be employed by the Human Armies? I had assumed my character had served(serves) a hobgoblin army before this.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 92):

Finished Description but not Background on my character sheet.
You blocked my character sheet edit powers btw.

If any player needs help hit me up.

so based on service please make a request on weapons and armor you will like

Keep in mind if currently in service they supply primary, secondary weapons, a shield and armor for the class.

if you did not service but come from noble class you may have your pick

if both most-likely you will have what you need and  then some

if you over do it you will be declined like bad credit LOL

In reply to Tarrano Grazlak (msg # 95):

I forgot what type of sub-races for hobgoblin you picked ??

In reply to Narrator (msg # 98):

I am the standard Krangi. The other, Kargi, is from the south across a sea/bay

ok, TY

The Healer class you have listed on the site has nothing about undead.  Changing over to a cleric only requires changing class name and a feat.  I only took this class because personal experience always lead to the need of healing.

I admit I am slow on doing descriptions and history.

If the party wants I can change classes to a fighter or a ranger.

In reply to Shandar (msg # 101):

I think I'd rather have a late healer than none at all ;)

If you need help with the character sheet, don't hesitate to let us know.

In reply to Shandar (msg # 101):

A cleric/healer is very much appreciated & needed. We have a fighter(hoplite) and my rogue/fighter

I should have my sheet done.  Unless the GM finds problems.  Except for if he gets armor and a weapon for being part o the Imperial Army.  That should be it.  If the party starts running to a lot of undead then I will take the Turn Undead feat.

I do not have the book the Healer is listed in thus do not know if Turn Undead is a class feature.  On the site it is not listed as a class feature.

In reply to Shandar (msg # 104):

The healer doesn't have Turn Undead, but I don't think it will be much necessary.

In reply to Esparam (msg # 105):

Turn is always useful imho.

Some UPDATES

I have a few website(s) which are linked off the main site.

Each adventure group gets a website and I move the information from rpol to that site and pretty much keep forever.

I'm a natural "Pack Rat" :)

Google has sent a notice that at some point soon, ever classic website will be converted to the new site set up.

I don't like the new set up but its free and its google which tends to be safe. I have noticed it looks better on the phone and on the ipad. I will spend about 2 hrs a day teaching myself the site and updating the website.

At some point the site will go private again so you will need to request access once its ready.

I will start the new site for this game "Imperial Army" -unless i use a mods name. And should have it fully up and ready by the time the intros are done, and/or when we finish the 1st part of the adventure.

Found the reply

found other rely which looks like you found the info

I am still checking sheets and it will take some time.

FYI
No combat until I confirm all sheets. Once finished I will lockout sheets until next part of adventure. Players can update sheets based on my call and not in the middle of a sense. Magic needs research, skills need training etc etc.

If you want to see advancements I recommend RPing your character learning new skill in game. It helps and make for great storytelling :)

I checked Tarrano's character sheet and made some edits:

1. Shortsword damage changed from 1d4 to 1d6

2. Starting HP's is 24 not 10. Con + Con bonus + max class HP's. So its 16 + 2 + 6 = 24 HP

Esparam's is fine no edits needed that I can see.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 111):

Shouldn't it be 16+3+6? (16 = +3 unless there is a racial mod I don't know about?)

Yes quite right I'll change it now...

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 114):

Every single hitpoint counts at level 1 :D

Heck yeah!

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 111):

Umm??? It's usually HD + Con Mod, so in this case 6 + 4, by your math I would have 18+6+4= 28 HPS.


Thank you for the update on the Shortsword. I was copy and pasting stats and missed that on my mobile apparently.

Good Lord I'm having a bad edit day! I made the change to 28 HP and also cleaned up your character sheet of useless table and Misc. E.g.: You don't need a spellbook table. Also added 1 LB to you carried weight for your gold.

In reply to Tarrano Grazlak (msg # 117):

This is a home-rule with Caladin that HP is CON+Mod+HD at first level (then it's HD+Mod as usual). It's written somewhere in the pinned threads I believe.

Man, that's some tough rogue ;)

In reply to Esparam (msg # 119):

Okay. I may have missed it. Though I've read through the threads.

In reply to Tarrano Grazlak (msg # 120):

I actually checked and couldn't find it again. I had confirmation it was still the case by PM. It might be on the google website, or it might be an oversight by Caladin.

Hey Sombre I was wondering why you have armor check penalties on your character sheet. Do you need me to change that or are you an armored mage or what? I didn't see any listing for armor worn.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 122):

Medium load :(
And that also means my speed diminishes to 20ft,hence the cumulative -6 jump.

In reply to Esparam (msg # 123):

Sorry Caladin, we are going to need horses.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:07, Thu 27 Sept 2018.

@Tarrano

This has been some fun and challenging exchanges between our characters. Just wanted to say.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 125):

The exchange has been fun.

So we have players to add but it seems they are not logged in or posted in a few days.

I will stay on this. But we should keep things moving forward with the three players.

@Caladin: I always thought that every 10 coins equals 1 pound. If that is indeed the case then...

@Sombre: You will be even heavier. Is there anything you can get rid of? You have so much stuff. I'm going to get you a donkey (can travel in dungeons) to hold all your things. :p
This message was last edited by the GM at 23:17, Fri 28 Sept 2018.

In reply to Thelonius Xander (msg # 128):

Sometimes the most basic magic item can be so important. An old school bag of holding

In reply to Narrator (msg # 129):

I can request magic items as supplies?!

That would be epic. On loan of course.

From what I found online, it was 50 coins a pound, but i don't have the Player's Handbook to be sure.
But if it's 10 a pound, then yeah, I'd be heavier. Though this wouldn't change anything considering I'm way over light encumbrance anyway, the STR barely covers basic equipment. Esparam needs a bag of holding or a horse/donkey for sure!

In reply to Esparam (msg # 131):

I just looked in the players manual and yes it 50 coins to a lb.

No lol.

I'd suggest you try a diplomacy check to convince Caladin to let us have one, Gars, but I don't think that'd help considering your last roll :p

In reply to Esparam (msg # 134):

Lol good one

I won't take my chances! ><

Hi everyone... cleric coming in :)

Wondering which picture you like better for Illia (pronounced "Ill'yah") a Grey Elf Cleric of the Fraternal Order of Aptitude...

Image A




Image B

In reply to Illia the Grey (msg # 137):

I like image A

B feels a little anime for me
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:30, Fri 19 Oct 2018.

In reply to Illia the Grey (msg # 137):

Welcome to the game Illia. I concur with the GM on images, the First Image (A) is better

+1 for A and welcome
We have a healer, woo!

Hello

Don't forget update sheets or send info so we can for you. Sheets close today/tonight.

Looking forward to meeting the new characters soon!

Well I don't thinks so :( not sure it will happen.

I think I have to drop some players today.