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OOC Chat - 004.

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GM
GM, 1678 posts
Wed 17 Jun 2020
at 02:33
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OOC Chat - 004

Oh wow we are really tearing through these eh?

So here's how it's going to work. We'll treat the next 2-3 days as Downtime. Each person I'll say can work on ONE major task and a bunch of minor ones.

Major tasks are things like upgrading the wagon, crafting, training the locals...etc.
Minor tasks can be cooking, patrolling, basic repair...etc.

Some rolls will be made to determine the success of the tasks. If anything interesting happens as part of the stay, I will open the threads for it.

Naturally, the party gets some time to recover HP, Hit Dice and other rest resources.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1027 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 17 Jun 2020
at 03:00
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OOC Chat - 004

Major Task: Moira will spend the bulk of her downtimes with the guards and scouts, in some combination of training, helping with patrols, improving defenses, and so forth.  She has wartime experience with a peoples' militia, so she's pretty well-suited to that sort of task.

Minor Tasks: When not on duty, Moira will spend the bulk of off-time resting, cooking for the party/whoever else wants, spending time with Mayor Orna (if she's welcoming of the company), and giving Thente (and anyone else who wants it) lessons on Giant Linguistics 101.
Claire Larkspur
player, 653 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 17 Jun 2020
at 04:31
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OOC Chat - 004

Major Task: Claire will begin training those locals who are too young or old to fight in the basic principles of first aid - simple things like how to dress wounds, change dressings, safely move the injured, how to properly administer potions and how to generally recognize when potions will likely do more good than harm. The aim is to improve the number of helping hands available to the Shrine and free up more able-bodied villagers to take up arms in times of need.

Minor Tasks: Resting, attending Giant Linguistics 101 with Thente, and checking in on U'lin's wagon work and helping with rudimentary tasks where possible.
Thente
player, 1031 posts
HP: 21/34; AC 14(19)
pP/I 14; [2/4] Sor Pt
Wed 17 Jun 2020
at 19:11
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OOC Chat - 004

Major task: Training militia in fighting larger opponents using enlarge spell

Minor tasks: patrolling with survival, attending giant 101 with Thente, resting!
U'lin
player, 723 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 17 Jun 2020
at 22:45
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Major Task: U'lin would use his devotion to help the town build catapults or trebuchets on wagon mounts, so they can be moved around the town, and anchored at the respective locations needed... if asked by the commander to help with defences.  U'lin is feeling low about his abilities, and was dismissed pretty abruptly last time by the commander.

I'm thinking U'lin will otherwise keep things close to home, stay out of sight, and just do some work on the wagon and his armour, stuff that he was otherwise going to do on the road.
If possible,priority would be to making the wagon a shrine so we can rest/recover on the road.

Minor Tasks: If there is opportunity to do small tasks for metal work supplies, that would be a top interest.
Otherwise, U'lin will again be sticking close to smithy/the battle wagon, working on meditating with his hammer or nugget, seeking guidance with them and trying to recall more of the fire giants and the adamantine giant.

BTW DM, anything we can add to party resources from the gathering of gem dust and metal from the pit?
GM
GM, 1680 posts
Thu 18 Jun 2020
at 16:37
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

RE: Gems and dust. Yes, I'll say you recover about 20gp worth of metal. It would be more, but a lot of the surrounding equipment was badly damaged by the elemental. The vault itself is nearly impossible to pry metal off, save what bits you can recover from the rubble.

You also have 25gp each of "infused" ruby, emerald, topaz and sapphire dust. Worth twice as much to magic item crafters or summoners.

I'll update the loot thread with it in a bit.

EDIT: I'll add that making a portable shrine for long rest on the road is goes against the intent of shrines in the first place, so it will not be implemented.



Also Zaiya, don't forgot to put your major/minor tasks.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:57, Thu 18 June 2020.
U'lin
player, 724 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 18 Jun 2020
at 16:52
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
The vault itself is nearly impossible to pry metal off...
Ooooh, nearly is better than totally :p

If the party never moves from Red Larch, U'lin has a supply mine! :)
GM
GM, 1682 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 11:13
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

I wasn't able to update today, but just to keep people engaged - how have folks been doing? Watched the DnD stream last night (ICEWIND DALE)? Any feedback on the recent encounters?
U'lin
player, 725 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 12:08
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

looking fwd to watching it today, I hope.

alles ist gut here.  very tired from early rises because little one, but having to onehand type b/c little angel snuggled into daddy rocks!
U'lin
player, 726 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 15:38
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well done intro on Baldur's Gate.

~
Initial impression:

Excellent cut scenes, and I like how they have the chat options.

Not certain that I'm overly impressed on the live movement/exploration - it looks very WoW primitiveness, but that may improve with their programming.  I hope.

The skills/display is nice.

The combat they showed looked decent too, and nice to show movement/terrain issues/tactical movement for height/using abilities.  Examples, mapping movement up ladders v. abilities like Misty Step, setting up Thunderwaving/pushing melee attacks to knock down archers sniping down upon the party.
U'lin
player, 727 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 19:31
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM:
Watched the DnD stream last night?
I enjoy Deb's streams.

That being said, I felt the group was very tepid about doing anything.  I appreciate most of them were quite new, but... excepting Matthew Lillard, they were all non-presence in the stream.  The wizard not knowing any of her spells, the rogue not knowing her potions, the fighter not fighting, the druid not really doing anything except his funniest bit in not wanting to be forced to shapechange for entertainment/party use... and promptly doing it.

Part of the issue, I think, I Lillard drowned out the other players in terms of the strength of his RP persona, and the others really didn't step into the game.  You could tell he was a little frustrated at being AOEd, knocked over, not supported, not protected.. all by his own party :)  No one tried to figure out what they were fighting, regularly ignored/conflicted Lillard's suggestions and Deb's hints to the party.  I will give the latter two props,however, as they introduced both IC, and helped the game move forward.

They could have used a session zero before streaming.

All in all, still enjoyable, but dragged a bit, and made it a DM & Lillard show in contrast to Deb's Relics and Reliquaries.
U'lin
player, 728 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 19:40
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

While Critical Role has been on COVID hiatus, I recently started watching Colville's Chain stream - quite enjoying it.  Good mix of new/older players, and they have fun, all are involved.

The brutal wake-up of the first scene-setting fight - oi.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1028 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 21:36
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

I really miss Critical Role.  >_<  I'm glad they got all their fundraising stuff and contracts for their comics/cartoon/WoTC affiliation squared away ahead of time; I feel like they might not have survived this as a company if they didn't have all that established prior to the pandemic upending everything.

I haven't been able to get into any other streams or podcasts despite trying.  I might be spoiled on Critical Role but it's tough for me to jump over to a new group and production style.  There was one called "Roll in the Family" that got suggested to me, though I haven't been able to sit down and watch it as of yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xnfQ4KjfSg
Thente
player, 1033 posts
HP: 21/34; AC 14(19)
pP/I 14; [2/4] Sor Pt
Sun 21 Jun 2020
at 23:21
  • msg #14

Re: OOC Chat - 004

FWIW I love the Colville Streams. The Chain is quite fun.
U'lin
player, 730 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 05:16
  • msg #15

Re: OOC Chat - 004

... and this is why the scouts should never be off on their own. :p
Moira Ruadh
player, 1030 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 07:33
  • msg #16

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In reply to U'lin (msg # 15):

But that's literally a scout's job?  To go ahead on their own and find danger?  Ideally not challenge said danger on their own, admittedly, but what y'gonna do when the plot kicks in?

Minor horror/humor story: Back in my own 3.5e tabletop games with my local group of friends, we spent more time rescuing or fighting our local Rogue because he loved to stealth off ahead of the group and poke hornets' nests.  He was constantly under this misunderstanding that stealth = invisibility and would ambush entire groups of enemies on his own, only to get crushed into the floor the very next round by overwhelming numbers.  He also loved to poke magical things and gleefully shoved every magical ring he found onto his finger, which ended up with him being cursed and possessed so often that it became a running gag for the table.
GM
GM, 1687 posts
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 10:58
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Pausing to see if Thente has anything to add.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 129 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 11:04
  • msg #18

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Still here!   I've just been getting run ragged at work and legitimately forgot to be checking in on the game!

Uh, Major Task: Collate the notes, figure out what was stolen, and figure out any possible countermeasures?

Not sure what a minor task might be though.
GM
GM, 1688 posts
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 11:06
  • msg #19

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Major I would say is anything you might want to do to reinforce the town. Stuff that need like a good 8 hours solid work.

Collating notes can be a minor task, depending on how far you want to go with tracking it. You can make it a Major task if you like, though there's a limit to how much you can learn in Red Larch.
U'lin
player, 731 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 11:27
  • msg #20

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh, I quite agree, Moira

Just fun jest

Great post btw
Moira Ruadh
player, 1034 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 12:32
  • msg #21

Re: OOC Chat - 004

These sort of social scenarios with magical creatures are always super stressful.  >_<  Gives a nice character beat moment for Moira's recent feelings of helplessness in facing the increasing threat levels though.  Increasingly helpless, but not at all hopeless.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:32, Mon 22 June 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 130 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 18:39
  • msg #22

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Major I would say is anything you might want to do to reinforce the town. Stuff that need like a good 8 hours solid work.

Collating notes can be a minor task, depending on how far you want to go with tracking it. You can make it a Major task if you like, though there's a limit to how much you can learn in Red Larch.


Minor Task then, Major Task I would see...

Darn, I don't know if there's any useful things I can contribute with magic?  Wizards have a hard time with persistent effects until later on, and most of Zaiya's skills are in intellectual stuff.
U'lin
player, 732 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 18:57
  • msg #23

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin would certainly take assistance with efforts to magically protect the battle wagon, or with any arcane analysis of the magical items he is trying to repair.
GM
GM, 1689 posts
Mon 22 Jun 2020
at 19:44
  • msg #24

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm, actually if U'lin is willing to let Zaiya look at the adamantine pieces he obtained, along with the gem dust and whatnot, I'll say researching it and the nature of the spells on the fragments would qualify as a major task.

This would basicaly be Zaiya spamming the identify spell while trying to recollect her notes on the wards in the vault + any scribblings she might have taken.

Give me a Arcana and History check then Zaiya, and an IC post on what exactly you're trying to learn.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 131 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 23 Jun 2020
at 19:27
  • msg #25

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Good to know!  Book bonus applies on the Arcana check presumably?

Additionally, is this all within a single 'Long Rest' period, which means I'd have my Portents?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1035 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 23 Jun 2020
at 19:57
  • msg #26

Re: OOC Chat - 004

We've presumably been staying in town for a few days by this point, so more than one Long Rest has surely passed at the very least.
GM
GM, 1691 posts
Tue 23 Jun 2020
at 20:39
  • msg #27

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In reply to Zaiya Alvina (msg # 25):

Interesting point on the portents. The intent was to have a single check represent work over multiple days- so its not an exact fit for the portent.

Assuming the party stays for about 3 days, that would be 6 portents. But the checks aren't daily...

Lets go with best 2 of 4 rolls (i.e. roll 4 times, then pick the best 2 to assign to the Arcana and History) - sort of a super-advantage to represent the effect the portents are having on your research. Fluff-wise, this is Zaiya's diviner specialization kicking in for information gathering.

EDIT: No need to come to a decision yet on whether to leave (you guys probably want info from Zaiya's checks and SEERs letters), but I figure Moira/Thente would want to discuss what they encountered with the rest.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:46, Tue 23 June 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1038 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 23 Jun 2020
at 21:01
  • msg #28

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira's really out of her depth as far as fey stuff is concerned, so she's not going to want to touch that with a standard issue dungeon-diver 10' pole.  At most she'll want to inform Orna of what happened, get some extra context for what sort of relationship the town might have with the Red Dryad, and maybe help set up some sort of response.  Like if the town needs to make an offering or gift or whatever.  But that's largely an internal thing for Red Larch and not something the party should really get involved in, as far as she's concerned.  I figure Moira probably has a hard "Well, best just leave the fey alone and give them a very wide berth" approach in general.

Assuming we've done all the good or damage we can do to Red Larch, we should get back on to our Yartar destination sooner than later.  I can only imagine poor Miss Stoor watching the group from the afterlife, impatiently drumming her fingers and throwing things every time we get distracted with some side quest.  ^^;
Thente
player, 1035 posts
HP: 21/34; AC 14(19)
pP/I 14; [2/4] Sor Pt
Tue 23 Jun 2020
at 23:49
  • msg #29

Re: OOC Chat - 004

sorry, I was out of pocket yesterday, but well handled on the fey lady :)

I would have bungled it, but done it in sylvan where no one else would understand until it was too late.

I'm trying to get caught up tonight. I will report to SEER for a few days worth of stuff.

Did Zaiya take one of the paper birds that first night?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:50, Tue 23 June 2020.
Thente
player, 1038 posts
HP: 21/34; AC 14(19)
pP/I 14; [2/4] Sor Pt
Thu 25 Jun 2020
at 17:43
  • msg #30

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So... everything ok with everyone?

This game's been really quiet this week.
U'lin
player, 733 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 25 Jun 2020
at 18:21
  • msg #31

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Fine here.
Fun couple days home with daughter.

I think DM is waiting on Thente/Moira to discuss the dryad encounter?
I'm holding on DM/Zaiya info re U'lin's items, and what we manage to do in studying/wagon work, though that may depend on what y'all decide on staying time in town.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 132 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 25 Jun 2020
at 18:45
  • msg #32

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I've been getting run ragged by work this rotation, one of our veterans got sent home due to riding the edge of a breakdown and I've had to pick up some of the slack during a shitshow of organization.

But thanks for the info, I'll get those rolls in right now.

EDIT:  27 on Arcana, 40 on History.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:47, Thu 25 June 2020.
GM
GM, 1693 posts
Thu 25 Jun 2020
at 19:16
  • msg #33

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea, I've sort of been holding back a bit to see what you guys want to do, but it seems like I'll need to keep pushing things forward. Doesn't help that I've been busy myself this week.

@Zaiya, I meant you roll 4d20 once and take the 2 best rolls for Arcana and History respectively
GM
GM, 1696 posts
Thu 25 Jun 2020
at 19:45
  • msg #34

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In any case, it seems a lot of countries are reopening their services and work, so its understandable that people have become abruptly busy. That said, I hope folks aren't too burnt out from the recent events in game - I understand it was basically two high-key tension fights in a row, so I've been fine with the more sedate pacing these two weeks.

If you guys have feedback, or concerns about the way things have been going, do PM me.



Now, on to the game itself:

I've updated the threads with replies from SEER and from the townsfolk regarding the dryad. Once Zaiya gets the rolls in, I'll update with the lore information the party has. It should not affect your most immediate moves for now, so I'm comfortable handling this delayed.

In the meanwhile, I'm going to have the group go back on the road. Important questions:

1) what time in the day are you leaving?
2) who is driving, scouting, working...etc? Note that if you want to work on the wagon, or practice downtime, you can't also be scouting. It will be another 3 day journey to Westbridge.

Once I have most of this information, I'll move us to the One the Road thread, and we can get back into the swing of things :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1039 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 25 Jun 2020
at 23:14
  • msg #35

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Seems like life's been getting busy all around, so brief spots of slowness are to be expected.  Though it seems like we've got things more or less squared away in Red Larch?
Thente
player, 1039 posts
HP: 21/34; AC 14(19)
pP/I 14; [2/4] Sor Pt
Fri 26 Jun 2020
at 06:52
  • msg #36

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If Moira's really set on leaving in the afternoon, sure.

Thente will help with scouting on our road to westbridge
GM
GM, 1697 posts
Fri 26 Jun 2020
at 07:47
  • msg #37

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea, Red Larch is pretty much wrapped up for now.

So, afternoon trek with Moira driving, Thente on watch. U'lin iirc wanted to make some improvements on the road. What about Claire and Zaiya?
Claire Larkspur
player, 656 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 26 Jun 2020
at 19:02
  • msg #38

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm good with an afternoon departure too. Claire could scout too on horseback.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 133 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 26 Jun 2020
at 19:24
  • msg #39

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Yea, I've sort of been holding back a bit to see what you guys want to do, but it seems like I'll need to keep pushing things forward. Doesn't help that I've been busy myself this week.

@Zaiya, I meant you roll 4d20 once and take the 2 best rolls for Arcana and History respectively


Well, now I feel like a bit of a dumb.  does that mean a "27" on both then?  Again, sorry for being so out of it, I've had about 30 minutes of free time a day this run, and I'm close to the end of my rope IRL.

At least it's almost over.
U'lin
player, 734 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 26 Jun 2020
at 20:13
  • msg #40

Re: OOC Chat - 004

What time of day is it (and which day) now?
U'lin's up for departing now, whether that's at the crack of dawn, or gather some road food at other time of day, and hit the trail.
GM
GM, 1698 posts
Sat 27 Jun 2020
at 04:00
  • msg #41

Re: OOC Chat - 004

There's no real "now" in the sense that the party decides when they want to leave the village on the third day.

If you wanna head out at the crack of dawn, sure thing.

I'm just gonna go with 27 on both of them Zaiya.
Claire Larkspur
player, 657 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 27 Jun 2020
at 16:39
  • msg #42

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Here's hoping my rolls won't kill us someday. D:

Perception: 6
11:38, Today: Claire Larkspur rolled 6 using 1d20.  Perception.
U'lin
player, 735 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 27 Jun 2020
at 20:41
  • msg #43

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
So, afternoon trek with Moira driving, Thente on watch. U'lin iirc wanted to make some improvements on the road.
Correct, as always, o illustrious one.

U'lin will take turns/relieve Thente so he doesn't have to be "on" the entire time, but free time will be spent on improving and praying in the wheeled shrine wagon :)
U'lin
player, 736 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 27 Jun 2020
at 20:48
  • msg #44

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Side thoughts:

So many good things next level.

3rd spells are major level jump of use and effect.
150% proficiency is delightful.
And should have my armour finished by the time it happens *happy dance*
GM
GM, 1700 posts
Sun 28 Jun 2020
at 01:34
  • msg #45

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll use your passive perception score for scouting then U'lin.
GM
GM, 1701 posts
Mon 29 Jun 2020
at 05:23
  • msg #46

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yes, you do roll with adv for Amphail horses.
GM
GM, 1704 posts
Wed 1 Jul 2020
at 03:08
  • msg #47

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thente? Zaiya?

U'lin and Claire can attempt things too.

I understand if folks are busy but this is days without checking in, I'm a bit worried.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1043 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 1 Jul 2020
at 03:22
  • msg #48

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I've been seeing a lot of slowdown around RPOL as of late because of states fussing around with their reopening/immediately re-closing because of the pandemic stuff this past week or two.  Seems like everyone is being run ragged with heavy schedules, so it's not too unusual for it to be quiet right now.
U'lin
player, 738 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 1 Jul 2020
at 14:32
  • msg #49

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Thente? Zaiya?

U'lin and Claire can attempt things too.

I understand if folks are busy but this is days without checking in, I'm a bit worried.

U'lin isn't trained, but I tossed a post up to keep things moving.
Not a bad check, so perhaps not a bad idea :)
GM
GM, 1705 posts
Wed 1 Jul 2020
at 15:34
  • msg #50

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I understand. All the same, thanks for moving things along U'lin.

It's late now, so I'm going to go to bed first. I'll see if there are any other posts in another 10 hours and update then.

Stay safe guys. If you need time to yourself and work/family during this crisis, we can easily reimplement a slowdown to 3/week in this phase of the story until folks get back on their feet.

What do you guys think?
U'lin
player, 739 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 1 Jul 2020
at 16:49
  • msg #51

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'd rather keep things moving, but I yield to the majority whim.
Claire Larkspur
player, 658 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 1 Jul 2020
at 17:38
  • msg #52

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sorry that I've been a bit busy with work, but feel free to move on in whenever you're ready GM. I should be freer around then too today.
U'lin
player, 740 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 2 Jul 2020
at 13:57
  • msg #53

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Anyone better animal handling than +4 w/ adv?

Claire has been a big speak w/ animals, so I don't want to step on her toes/bailiwick.
If no response, I'll post for U'lin acting there.
Claire Larkspur
player, 659 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 2 Jul 2020
at 17:24
  • msg #54

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ooh, a lizert. I'll do the Disney princess thing and attempt to CHA calm it, but feel free to take an action that will hopefully confer advantage!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 134 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 3 Jul 2020
at 01:14
  • msg #55

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I am finally free.

After I sleep, I'll get caught up on everything.  God willing, work won't be a shitshow like that was for a long time to come.

(I had maybe thirty minutes a day to cram in everything that wasn't working, sleeping, eating, or getting ready to do either of those, and that includes having to keep in touch with the family and getting my next year of car insurance sorted out, it was ridiculous)
GM
GM, 1708 posts
Fri 3 Jul 2020
at 08:20
  • msg #56

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
I am finally free.

After I sleep, I'll get caught up on everything.  God willing, work won't be a shitshow like that was for a long time to come.

(I had maybe thirty minutes a day to cram in everything that wasn't working, sleeping, eating, or getting ready to do either of those, and that includes having to keep in touch with the family and getting my next year of car insurance sorted out, it was ridiculous)


Glad to hear it!
Claire Larkspur
player, 663 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 01:40
  • msg #57

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@U'lin - did you sense something metallic, like an item or something among the eggs? Or did U'lin just mistake the eggs for an item? I'm wondering whether to eventually try and get closer eventually.
U'lin
player, 742 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 05:09
  • msg #58

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Keen eyes saw the metal amidst the eggs.
Claire Larkspur
player, 664 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 05:17
  • msg #59

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ooh got it!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 135 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 07:41
  • msg #60

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Okay, should I post what I found out back in the Red Larch Quest just for the sake of keeping things sane, or should I just OOC it here and just try to get back in the swing of things?
GM
GM, 1711 posts
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 08:46
  • msg #61

Re: OOC Chat - 004

OOC it here i think. Assume you imparted this info during the time in Red Larch.
U'lin
player, 743 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 15:21
  • msg #62

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, what size/dimensions are we talking for the cave?

Also, what size/dimensions of the entrance?

Also, what is the immediate surroundings outside the crevasse entrance?
Claire Larkspur
player, 666 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 17:52
  • msg #63

Re: OOC Chat - 004

To convince lizert mom:

Persuasion: 20
12:51, Today: Claire Larkspur rolled 20 using 1d20+5.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:53, Sat 04 July 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 668 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 19:47
  • msg #64

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Remind me to buy more ham next chance we get. Truly it has been the most unexpectedly useful trinket I've bought in this game so far.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1046 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 4 Jul 2020
at 22:22
  • msg #65

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Never underestimate the value of a good cured meat.  :3

@Thente & Zaiya
Shall we focus on the Survival rolls/giving Help Advantage in the meantime?
This message was last edited by the player at 22:22, Sat 04 July 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 136 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 5 Jul 2020
at 09:22
  • msg #66

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That'd be for the best.

ALSO, here's what I learned in my studies, in a nutshell anyway.

A) On the wards that we dealt with...

--The basic wards that were intact were the ones we knew about already.  Notably, the ones that were broken were a Forbiddance--that blocked Fiends and Dragons specifically.  Very suspicious!

--It was probably the Ordning thing breaking that caused the site to become detectable in the first place, it's also possible even more wards were broken that didn't leave residue.

B) The writings on the vault had a poem and a warning, here's the transcription of both.


Death reached out and grasped the sky
The Enemy fell like rain
Upon the embers of broken Ostoria
But the Titan could not be quenched


And

A weapon such as this brings destruction to all
Both our enemies- and ourselves
Thus it is to be broken and sealed
Scattered across the lands
None may wield it again, save by royal mandate
May the day that is necessary never come.

-By order of the Storm King, Regent of the Gods

So, yeah.  Shenanigans are afoot.

Now, what's this I hear about us having something else we need to look at?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1047 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 5 Jul 2020
at 09:48
  • msg #67

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hm... very fishy.

Well, we do know that the Giants and Dragons are old enemies, so the talk about enemies falling from the sky is pretty obvious with that in mind.  The Vonindod thing's a Dragon-killer weapon at the very least.  Not sure where Fiends factor in, aside from the obvious "thing you never want to get its hands on a super-weapon" part.

If the Vonindod wasn't supposed to ever be used except by royal decree, and the Ordning's broken thus leaving that royal spot up for grabs, then my bet is some enterprising Giant(s?) is looking to get themselves a big one-up on everyone else in the running to establish a new order.  There's always the possibility it's a third party unrelated to the Giants themselves taking advantage of the situation, like the Dragon Cult, but we don't really have any proof of that one way or another to say for sure.

And U'lin's apparently got a piece of this super-weapon thing in his pocket?  Was that one of the random scraps purchased at the festival, or is it a character trinket from U'lin's backstory?  The idea of pieces of this thing being scattered around beyond the vault already is worrisome.
U'lin
player, 744 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 5 Jul 2020
at 12:10
  • msg #68

Re: OOC Chat - 004

2, actually!

One fragment missed from vault, U’lin recovered
Other was from river  from spine of the world... his starting trinket yup
GM
GM, 1715 posts
Sun 5 Jul 2020
at 19:15
  • msg #69

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Never underestimate the value of a good cured meat.  :3

@Thente & Zaiya
Shall we focus on the Survival rolls/giving Help Advantage in the meantime?


These would work - I assume you're looking at creating a better shelter? Something more sturdy to ward the cave. The rain looks like it'll take a while to pass.
U'lin
player, 745 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 5 Jul 2020
at 21:18
  • msg #70

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, holding on the questions above about the size of things.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1048 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 6 Jul 2020
at 03:02
  • msg #71

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Very neat being able to work in a background trinket into the story like that.  I love trinkets but so few games ever want to use them, for some reason.  So is U'lin more connected to the main thrust of the plot than we've yet realized, or is him having a chunk of doom happenstance?

As for getting the cave protected, can we turn the wagons broadside at the mouth of the cave to be a buffer against the storm?  Making a campfire and using the Pot of Warming can keep us and the horses warm and dry so long as we can prevent rain from getting blown in on us.  Plus if we get it warm enough, maybe Mama Lizard will doze off and we can see what we can do about that thing she's got in her nest.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:03, Mon 06 July 2020.
U'lin
player, 746 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 6 Jul 2020
at 03:07
  • msg #72

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I must agree.
I loved it as a reason to pull him from the far North for the search, and it's involvement is a great example of nice ways to tie things together.  It is an excellent touch when background is incorporated into the story, and enriches both the PC and the tale/world depth.

It was extra delicious that the party put their task ahead of U'lin's, and now the potential world-ending nature!  Moo haha!
GM
GM, 1716 posts
Mon 6 Jul 2020
at 03:47
  • msg #73

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
DM, what size/dimensions are we talking for the cave?

Also, what size/dimensions of the entrance?

Also, what is the immediate surroundings outside the crevasse entrance?


Let's say the cave is an uneven chamber about 15-20ft across and 40ft deep with an upward elevation.

Entrance around 10ft wide but 15ft high. The horses had to squeeze a bit.

It's mostly rocky terrain right outside the cave, some vine like plants. Water pools at the foot of the entrance due to the elevation.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 137 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 6 Jul 2020
at 08:49
  • msg #74

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well, definitely going to provide what help I can getting things set up--if we need food too, I think Prestigitation works as a "COOK BEAM" or something?

Plus, I can get an Alarm set up at the cave entrance.
GM
GM, 1718 posts
Mon 6 Jul 2020
at 09:48
  • msg #75

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Well, definitely going to provide what help I can getting things set up--if we need food too, I think Prestigitation works as a "COOK BEAM" or something?

Plus, I can get an Alarm set up at the cave entrance.


I believe Moira has a literal Magic (Instant) Pot, but only wizards have Alarm spells yes.

Moira Ruadh:
Very neat being able to work in a background trinket into the story like that.  I love trinkets but so few games ever want to use them, for some reason.  So is U'lin more connected to the main thrust of the plot than we've yet realized, or is him having a chunk of doom happenstance?

As for getting the cave protected, can we turn the wagons broadside at the mouth of the cave to be a buffer against the storm?  Making a campfire and using the Pot of Warming can keep us and the horses warm and dry so long as we can prevent rain from getting blown in on us.  Plus if we get it warm enough, maybe Mama Lizard will doze off and we can see what we can do about that thing she's got in her nest.


Wagons broadside would work pretty well! Though I think U'lin has some other stuff he wants to try.

Getting the cave warm enough for the lizard to snooze wasn't something I considered, but would have worked. That said, uh. Claire's got it.

Maybe.

choking lizard noises
This message was last edited by the GM at 09:49, Mon 06 July 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1049 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 6 Jul 2020
at 10:00
  • msg #76

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Prestidigitation can warm, cool, and flavor things among other functions.  While I'm not sure you could actually cook with it you could definitely enhance a meal quite a bit.  But yeah, I've got Party Cook covered but gladly welcome all assistance and additions.  If nothing else, you're definitely on clean-up duty since Prestidigitation can instantly do the dishes.  :3

GM:
choking lizard noises


Either this problem is about to be solved for us, or we're about to invent the Heimlich maneuver for giant lizards.  Though if we can't actually help the lizard then a quick mercy killing may be in order because choking is not a good way to go.  D:
U'lin
player, 749 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 8 Jul 2020
at 11:51
  • msg #77

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Does anyone have contact with Thente?
I don't want to post for his PC... But also am seeing him not logging in for two weeks?
GM
GM, 1721 posts
Wed 8 Jul 2020
at 13:44
  • msg #78

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea I just PM'd him. If he doesn't reply tomorrow I'll try an rmail.

Otherwise, we can have U'lin just start the ritual without him first (if he wants to involve Zaiya thats fine too).

I really hope he's alright :<
U'lin
player, 750 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 8 Jul 2020
at 17:05
  • msg #79

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
I really hope he's alright :<
Yes, that is my concern as well, especially w/ COVID19, the idiots out there pointing guns, etc.

GM:
(if he wants to involve Zaiya thats fine too).
Zaiya, U'lin had offered to let you look at his broken magical hammer that he's trying to fix.  Not sure if you forgot about that, or didn't want to be involved per se.

U'lin (and hopefully Thente again) are going to try and recharge/restore it in the storm (per prev clues divined).

Would you like to help, analysis or practical repairs/restoring?
Or exercise discretion in not charging cracked magical items with lightning during storms?

Grin.  Consider U'lin as having extended the offer if you so wish to join, but also no worries if not IC interest. :)
Zaiya Alvina
player, 139 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 9 Jul 2020
at 02:58
  • msg #80

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh sure!  I'd be glad to try and help if I can help with that retroactively anyway.  Would that be an Arcana check?
GM
GM, 1722 posts
Thu 9 Jul 2020
at 06:10
  • msg #81

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So Zaiya and U'lin are going outside to mess with the hammer in the storm?

U'lin, wanna explain the background to Zaiya? (Bonus inspiration if you can summarize in an in character post instead of here)
GM
GM, 1723 posts
Fri 10 Jul 2020
at 14:30
  • msg #82

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hm, no reply from Thente. Just rmail'd him (and tried pinging his friend).

Worst case scenario, I'll look at a replacement and figure something story-wise. But I really, really rather it not come to that :(

In the meanwhile - anyone want the pearl of power? Note that it works for pretty much any spellcaster - but requires an attunement slot.

Hope folks are doing okay and are safe.
U'lin
player, 751 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 10 Jul 2020
at 16:54
  • msg #83

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin could certainly use it - he is only attuned to his semi-repaired hammer, IIRC.

That being said, I suspect Zaiya and Claire wouldn't mind it either.


Folks - care to chime in interest, and we can do a roll-off of those interested?
Claire Larkspur
player, 672 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 10 Jul 2020
at 18:17
  • msg #84

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'd be happy to pass it to someone else! I've generally found that my spell slots are sufficient for the smites I need to do.
U'lin
player, 752 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 11 Jul 2020
at 00:58
  • msg #85

Re: OOC Chat - 004

My first thought would be Zaiya, since she is full caster, but without our armour/weapons.

There is a strong counter-argument to having another prayer of healing though, so call the importance what you see it.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 140 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 07:35
  • msg #86

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say no to another spell per day, especially given how extensive my bag of tricks is, but it's hardly something I need
GM
GM, 1726 posts
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 14:09
  • msg #87

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Okay, here's the plan for Thente:

I will give until U'lins ritual stuff concludes for him to get back. I estimate this will basically give him a few days - at least until the coming Wednesday (if not the end of the week).

If Thente isn't back by then, I will implement a means to temporarily cycle him out IC. Then we'll continue running for a while and see if Doderic rejoins us, or Thente comes back. If approx a month or two goes by with a 4 man party and no change, I will look at recruitment again.

Thoughts? Objections? Note that while I'm using the imperative term in the plan, I am open to feedback. My main concern is keeping the game going, unfortunate as this is.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:09, Sun 12 July 2020.
U'lin
player, 754 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 15:03
  • msg #88

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Agreed.

I really hope Thente can return, but if he doesn't return in short order, that timeline gives him the best chance to having a game still running to which he can rejoin in the future.
U'lin
player, 755 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 15:07
  • msg #89

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, guidance permissible on U'lin's checks?
Claire Larkspur
player, 673 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 16:28
  • msg #90

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, it's really unfortunate if we lose Thente, but perhaps something out of his control has come up for him that he needs to attend to :( If it helps keep the game moving forward, I agree that cycling the character out may be the best option we have.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 142 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 16:48
  • msg #91

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So, from the impression I got, the Hammer was originally made from lightning that struck a tree, and they took the wood and used it as the core of the hammer or something?  U'lin's description seemed a bit disjointed.
GM
GM, 1728 posts
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 16:52
  • msg #92

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It's disjointed because the vision itself was disjointed.

Lemme copy paste it here:

The same vision: a petrified tree upon a bed of black rocks, its branches white with age; swaying under a thunderous sky. Powerful winds blow and shake its boughs, the old fossil surprisingly sturdy despite being long dead.

This time however, the vision shifts slightly - focusing on a bundle of worn furs and rags hidden amongst the black rocks. It shifts, revealing a bone-thin, dark-skinned man with long gray dreadlocks and countless blood-red tattoos over his bony ribs and cheeks. Murky-white eyes stare at the tree as the being prostrates himself before the storm, shaking and shivering against the winds.

A peal of thunder resounds, and a crack of white lightning descends.
GM
GM, 1729 posts
Sun 12 Jul 2020
at 16:54
  • msg #93

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Also, if U'lin is recounting the vision- he will realize now that the tattoos resemble that of the elderly Uthgardt shaman from way back at the pit, though the exact symbols are different. The visions tattoos are also red, instead of grey.
GM
GM, 1730 posts
Tue 14 Jul 2020
at 04:25
  • msg #94

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I just had a mental image of U'lin standing in the winds and rains, thunder booming in the background and hammer held high:

"MOIRA! GIB SOUP!!!"
U'lin
player, 757 posts
20/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 14 Jul 2020
at 23:02
  • msg #95

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
I just had a mental image of U'lin standing in the winds and rains, thunder booming in the background and hammer held high:

"MOIRA! GIB SOUP!!!"
combined with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPwPo-IAQ-E
U'lin
player, 758 posts
19/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 00:02
  • msg #96

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM:
U'lin takes 12 thunder damage and is deafened until his next long rest. Magical healing, like that of a lesser restoration spell...
Alright, alright, I give.  I'll swap out a spell for Lesser Restoration already :p
GM
GM, 1735 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 07:40
  • msg #97

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
DM:
U'lin takes 12 thunder damage and is deafened until his next long rest. Magical healing, like that of a lesser restoration spell...
Alright, alright, I give.  I'll swap out a spell for Lesser Restoration already :p


xD

The point was more that the deafened condition can only be cured by specific wording. And that potent rituals have their costs.

I will PM you the results of the Wis check sometime.
U'lin
player, 760 posts
19/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 15:00
  • msg #98

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
DM:
U'lin takes 12 thunder damage and is deafened until his next long rest. Magical healing, like that of a lesser restoration spell...
Alright, alright, I give.  I'll swap out a spell for Lesser Restoration already :p
xD
The point was more that the deafened condition can only be cured by specific wording. And that potent rituals have their costs.
Oh, I know - I just couldn't resist the jest.

GM:
I will PM you the results of the Wis check sometime.
Roger,roger.
U'lin
player, 761 posts
19/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 00:08
  • msg #99

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
OOC: I'd say it works! Claire, U'lin, Zaiya - what do you guys think?
Honestly, I didn't even think it was a question.

Long day of driving.
Two people deaf and hurt.
Thente quiet.
Monsoon of water on the path -note, not even roadway.
And if we left the warm comfy cave, we'd need to set up camp in a couple hours anyway, but with less security and safety?

Also, it will take U'lin an hour to remove the scaffolding back into more portable storage material - which I was planning for the morning.

Re: U'lin specifically, he's trying to ID and attune the Hammer, which will take another hour+.
(+possibly attuning on the Pearl, if group decision was for an extra prayer of healing each day, v. extra offence/utility from Zaiya)


The only question I had... I forgot because of multiple interruptions by my daughter and wife :)

Is anyone else beside U'lin/Zaiya injured at all?
If not, sounds like time to spend some HD
GM
GM, 1737 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 00:27
  • msg #100

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I figured as much, but I didn't want to move you guys without some input. Plus I figured Moira and Claire would want to comment on your bleeding eardrums xD

I'll give this a couple hours and update then.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1054 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 00:28
  • msg #101

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I don't know about Claire, but Moira can't really do anything for busted ears other than fret and give them some cloth to stuff in there to halt the bleeding.
GM
GM, 1739 posts
Sun 19 Jul 2020
at 04:12
  • msg #102

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
"Hello friends.  I am examining my hammer, TO SEE IF IT WORKED, the recharging.. The explosions of sound and energy may have slightly affected my hearing, so it would be wise for a second person on watch to help listen.  Perhaps Zaiya?

"Back to my work!  Moira, thanks again for the soup - it was EXCELLENT."


Okay I almost spat out my morning brew from that lol. U'lin you can get Inspiration.
U'lin
player, 763 posts
19/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 19 Jul 2020
at 04:50
  • msg #103

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
"Hello friends.  I am examining my hammer, TO SEE IF IT WORKED, the recharging.. The explosions of sound and energy may have slightly affected my hearing, so it would be wise for a second person on watch to help listen.  Perhaps Zaiya?

"Back to my work!  Moira, thanks again for the soup - it was EXCELLENT."
Okay I almost spat out my morning brew from that lol. U'lin you can get Inspiration.
*bow* Grin, glad to provide some entertainment :P
Zaiya Alvina
player, 147 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 23:02
  • msg #104

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Just a 12 on my Arcana check, I knew I was due for a fail!

Anyway, I can't post tonight, work ran a bit long, I'll see if tomorrow's better.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1055 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 23:08
  • msg #105

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ugh, real life sucks when it comes to having energy to post sometimes.  >_<

@DM
Are U'lin and Zaiya still deafened until they get a curative cast on them to get rid of the condition, or did a long rest fix that?

Also, as I can't recall off the top of my head - do we know if the sisters at the Shrine are still present back in Red Larch or would they have already hit the road as well by now?  Moira has to weigh options on whether it's best to turn back and sacrifice time for the sake of getting their various injured tended to (and possibly leaving Thente in their care, depending on what the meta-plan for him is supposed to be here) or trying to press on to the next spot of civilization to look for help.
GM
GM, 1744 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 04:44
  • msg #106

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@U'lin, Moira

As a reminder - you guys are traveling, you actually don't get the benefits of a full long rest. U'lin could re-prepare spells however, and cast lesser restoration twice. Given that he has already used heat metal, that would put him out of L2 spell slots (ofc if he attuned to the pearl, he can use it to recover x2 2nd level spell slots. One before sleeping, one when the day renews).

U'lin - when I say a major temple I mean something on the scale of Waterdeep. Allfaith's shrine could work, but it definitely does not have the full resources necessary for a complete examination.

Meta-wise, the intent is to be flexible with Thente's current condition and provide a in-story explanation for his silence. Essentially, he is mysteriously incapacitated and in the longer run, once you guys learn more about the condition, may require you leaving him somewhere with the proper care and/or search for a means to cure him.

@Zaiya

I'll post the results for a 12 in a bit, the rest can assume she's sharing the info IC if needed.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:45, Wed 22 July 2020.
U'lin
player, 767 posts
19/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 18:45
  • msg #107

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh U'lin is completely attuning to that pearl, yes.
GM
GM, 1746 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:42
  • msg #108

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Oh U'lin is completely attuning to that pearl, yes.


Is he also casting lesser restoration x2? If so, do remember to mark it off your sheet.

For Zaiya as well, note that the rest does grant you a short rest benefit, so you can expend HD to recover some health.
U'lin
player, 768 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 20:30
  • msg #109

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
Oh U'lin is completely attuning to that pearl, yes.
Is he also casting lesser restoration x2? If so, do remember to mark it off your sheet.
He so will (Presuming he's aware enough to notice Zaiya having the same issue :P)

I have marked the 3 off, 2 recovered, -1 net.

GM:
For Zaiya as well, note that the rest does grant you a short rest benefit, so you can expend HD to recover some health.
U'lin recovered up last night.
14:25, Today: U'lin rolled 7 using 1d8+2.  HD.
14:29, Today: U'lin rolled 8 using 1d8+2.
The long rest we then recovered half the HD (so the 2 expended), so back to full HD, yes?
GM
GM, 1749 posts
Sat 25 Jul 2020
at 15:46
  • msg #110

Re: OOC Chat - 004

To clarify- no you do not recover HD.

So the intent with the short rest/long rest thing is that you only rest at towns or specific sanctuaries like inns.

If you long rest outside of such a location, you only get the benefits of a short rest. This includes HD recovery.

It's meant so I can spread multiple encounters over a few days of travel without having to keep scaling them for a party with full resources.
U'lin
player, 769 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 25 Jul 2020
at 16:00
  • msg #111

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm.  then I'll just use one HD.
I'll adjust HP accordingly.
GM
GM, 1750 posts
Sat 25 Jul 2020
at 16:14
  • msg #112

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Btw, is anyone waiting on anything else? I just need perception checks from folks scouting - I'll wait the weekend and if no one posts I'll just use Passive Perception for everyone :)

EDIT: Also need to check if anyone is taking the Javelin for now.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:54, Sat 25 July 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 679 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 25 Jul 2020
at 19:36
  • msg #113

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire can scout!

Perception w/disadvantage: 2
14:35, Today: Claire Larkspur rolled 10 using 1d20.  Perception.
14:35, Today: Claire Larkspur rolled 2 using 1d20.

Or not.
U'lin
player, 770 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 25 Jul 2020
at 20:56
  • msg #114

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Btw, is anyone waiting on anything else? I just need perception checks from folks scouting - I'll wait the weekend and if no one posts I'll just use Passive Perception for everyone :)

EDIT: Also need to check if anyone is taking the Javelin for now.
U'lin will scout, and likes his passive as much as possible :)
If alternating with anyone, he will work on the wagon/bond with the hammer as much as possible.


Anyone want the Javelin?
I'll hold it so we have it, but if someone plans to use it, all the better to you.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 148 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 00:07
  • msg #115

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In the home stretch of my current rotation, should be free on tuesday night.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1058 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 00:13
  • msg #116

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The Javelin is still a STR-based weapon, so it's no good for Moira to use it.  Either Claire or U'lin would be the most likely candidates.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:13, Sun 26 July 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 680 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 00:31
  • msg #117

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Moira is driving, so no Perception checks from her.  Claire made a Perception check, so I imagine she's on Glory and scouting ahead or just keeping alongside the wagons with an eye out.


My apologies, I should have clarified! I actually imagined that Claire would be the one to check in on Thente's body every now and then, perhaps from the wagon itself, and would not be mounted on Glory for the duration of this trip. I reasoned to myself that Claire wouldn't be needing to watch him every second of the journey and had some extra bandwidth to scout but let me know if I cannot 1) check on Thente/secure his body and 2) keep an eye out at the same time.

In any case, given how bad Claire's roll was, she was most likely doing 1) more than 2). XD

Re: javelin
I feel like it might make sense for U'lin to keep it (though I forget what his STR is). Correct me if I'm wrong too, but the javelin probably represents an improvement in burst damage options for U'lin, which Claire already has plenty of in Divine Smites.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:34, Sun 26 July 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1060 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 00:34
  • msg #118

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Certainly fair enough.  ^^  All of Moira's attention is going to be on driving, so her Perception is actively focused on making sure they don't hit any slick patches from the storm or such.  Last thing the party needs is a blown axle.

Amusingly enough, Moira had been internally arguing with herself as to whether she wanted to stop into Triboar to tell her friend of the deaths in Nightstone and return a ring of sentimental value, or whether it was necessary because of the Resurrection Project.  This sort of made the decision for her because now they'll just be whizzing past Triboar with nary a glance.
Claire Larkspur
player, 681 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 01:00
  • msg #119

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm excited to move on to Yartar. It feels like what happens from there on could be a major plot decision point?

@Zaiya - There's also the issue of the SEER sending stone and communications, which Thente has been handling for us. Would you like to take that up? Given Zaiya's background, it feels like it would be quite natural for her to do so.
U'lin
player, 771 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 03:54
  • msg #120

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire:
I'm excited to move on to Yartar. It feels like what happens from there on could be a major plot decision point?
I know, right?
I'm quite curious to see how the storylines develop!

Claire:
Re: javelin
I feel like it might make sense for U'lin to keep it (though I forget what his STR is). Correct me if I'm wrong too, but the javelin probably represents an improvement in burst damage options for U'lin, which Claire already has plenty of in Divine Smites.
All valid arguments, true enough.

I didn't want to hog the magical items, and the Bolt is an example of party-accessible.
Especially with U'lin having repaired his catapult hammer.
I suppose the "for-all" use is more In theory.  More detailed exam/consideration does seem to limit the use more.

U'lin is Str15, Claire.
Claire Larkspur
player, 684 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 19:05
  • msg #121

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It'll be so hilarious if Claire actually manages to persuade the bandits to transition to a production-based economy rather than a 'services'-based one XD
GM
GM, 1758 posts
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 19:18
  • msg #122

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire. No. U'lin is already terraforming the wagon into a mobile battlefort/farm.

Not another one.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 149 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 26 Jul 2020
at 22:34
  • msg #123

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
I'm excited to move on to Yartar. It feels like what happens from there on could be a major plot decision point?

@Zaiya - There's also the issue of the SEER sending stone and communications, which Thente has been handling for us. Would you like to take that up? Given Zaiya's background, it feels like it would be quite natural for her to do so.


Easy as pie, wizards gonna do magic stuff.
GM
GM, 1763 posts
Mon 27 Jul 2020
at 19:10
  • msg #124

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
In the home stretch of my current rotation, should be free on tuesday night.


Perfect timing xD

Don't forget to roll Portents for the encounter along with your HD recovery Zaiya!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 150 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 27 Jul 2020
at 23:30
  • msg #125

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Right, Portents, let's see how those go.

(Rolls)

A 12 and a 2, someone's liable to have a bad day!
GM
GM, 1764 posts
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 18:44
  • msg #126

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Right, Portents, let's see how those go.

(Rolls)

A 12 and a 2, someone's liable to have a bad day!


Zaiya you forgot your actual combat post :P

On a side note, how's everyone doing these few days?
U'lin
player, 777 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 19:44
  • msg #127

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
On a side note, how's everyone doing these few days?
+side, 32 degrees and sunny, with just a right breeze, helped 3 clients avoid long jail.
-side, realized my hammer didn't improve from 1/day :p  oops

A couple weeks ago, our local swimming pools reopened lessons, which has been a godsend for our 2yo.  She was trying to swim in the bottom of the bathtub, which was both heart-warming and heart-breaking.  She swims like the 5-6 year olds, and so fearlessly, but teensy compared to everyone in her class :)

Thankfully the region has no cases, but certainly are elsewhere in province.

How 'bout the rest of ye?
Claire Larkspur
player, 686 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 06:44
  • msg #128

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
On a side note, how's everyone doing these few days?


I've just today exorcised the ghost of quarters past and submitted my final term paper.

Dobby is a free elf :D
GM
GM, 1765 posts
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 07:30
  • msg #129

Re: OOC Chat - 004

For me I've been trying to get my sleep schedule in order- working remotely with folks 12 hours apart is rough for meetings.

Glad to know folks are safe and having some semblance of regular life return.

Also this hasn't been an issue- but I'd like to check in case it comes up again. When in combat, should one of you guys be unable to post for whatever reason, would you prefer if I:

1) skipped your turn entirely (character takes the dodge action)
2) controlled your character according to some general guidelines left (basic attacks, cantrips...etc)
3) controlled your character with party input on their actions (cast sleep here...etc)

Note that I will not do this without at least 24 hours of grace (which I'm giving now to Zaiya - 20 hours from this post, I'll probably default to option 1 for her and continue the fight to avoid dragging things out). I've had DMs "delay" the effects of a PCs turn but I've found that generally results in really bursty combat and also doeesn't disincentivize posting on time >_<
Moira Ruadh
player, 1070 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 09:30
  • msg #130

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I've mostly been dealing with a holding pattern of daily life, as difficult as that has been with all the hoops and restrictions that need navigating as of late.  It's an odd shift with everyone being at home; my state very unwisely tried to reopen and now is back in full lockdown mode, so it's like going through those first few weeks all over again.

As for absent player actions, I usually default to either saying the character acts defensively (taking the dodge action, hiding, etc) or uses inexpensive ranged attacks (attack cantrips, arrows if low ammo isn't an issue, etc).  I feel like having the DM or the party-by-vote spend spell slots might be a bit much since that can drastically change the player's potential options.

In past cases where I've DM'd, when necessary I'd do something like alter the difficulty of the overall combat scene mid-action to compensate for an absent player.  Like having some of the grunts fail their "morale check" and run rather than stay and fight, thus lowering the overall challenge a little.  Or cordoning off the absent player with one or two minions and say "they're busy fighting over here in the background".  Though admittedly that's more to my preference for cinematic style battles.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 151 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 17:41
  • msg #131

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Finally home and safe and happy!

And I've got enough bottles of coke to force me through the initial doldrums anyway.  It'll be time to make use of those Portents of mine soon enough!

So, the question is, what exactly are you trying to ask Zaiya to do U'lin?  I'm trying to get caught up where I can but my head's a bit swirly at the moment.
U'lin
player, 778 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 20:12
  • msg #132

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Can you occlude/remove the lights acting as beacon for the giant, and/or put a replacement beacon over by the crossbowmen, so the giant heads there instead of v. us?
Claire Larkspur
player, 687 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 20:42
  • msg #133

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
1) skipped your turn entirely (character takes the dodge action)
2) controlled your character according to some general guidelines left (basic attacks, cantrips...etc)
3) controlled your character with party input on their actions (cast sleep here...etc)


Good question and just to state for the record, in the event that I can't post for whatever reason during a combat and if people have an idea of what Claire should be doing, by all means do 3).

If not, 2) is fine with me too: some guidelines for Claire's behaviour, in rough order of priority (1 being highest):
1. She will try to remove the greatest threat to an individual party member or important NPC.
2. She will try to remove the greatest threat to the party as a whole (like a big boss monster).
3. If the use of persuasion can take enemies out of the game, she will try to do so.
4. Hit the nearest enemy.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:43, Wed 29 July 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 152 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 20:53
  • msg #134

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Can you occlude/remove the lights acting as beacon for the giant, and/or put a replacement beacon over by the crossbowmen, so the giant heads there instead of v. us?


I could add more lights, but it's anyone's guess how that shakes out.  Or I could remove it from consideration for a while by Webbing it and using my Portent dice to make it fail the saving throws.

Hmm, I think Grease might be better under the circumstances though, I think Giants have really shitty dexterity on the whole?
GM
GM, 1766 posts
Wed 29 Jul 2020
at 21:57
  • msg #135

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The giant is still offscreen though, about 80ft away.

I'm going to quickly resolve Moira and U'lins attempts on the leader first.
U'lin
player, 779 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 01:00
  • msg #136

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
GM:
1) skipped your turn entirely (character takes the dodge action)
2) controlled your character according to some general guidelines left (basic attacks, cantrips...etc)
3) controlled your character with party input on their actions (cast sleep here...etc)
Good question and just to state for the record, in the event that I can't post for whatever reason during a combat and if people have an idea of what Claire should be doing, by all means do 3).

If not, 2) is fine with me too: some guidelines for Claire's behaviour, in rough order of priority (1 being highest):
1. She will try to remove the greatest threat to an individual party member or important NPC.
2. She will try to remove the greatest threat to the party as a whole (like a big boss monster).
3. If the use of persuasion can take enemies out of the game, she will try to do so.
4. Hit the nearest enemy.

While I love having contingent defaults, I think it's not really fair to the DM to have to cross-reference.  I've played in super-contingent games, and they quickly burned out everyone.

K.I.S.S. to prevent frustration/burnout.
In melee or badly hurt?  Dodge.
Otherwise? Use cheap cantrip/arrow on biggest threat.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 154 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 01:00
  • msg #137

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hah.

Anyway, I don't believe in fair fights, everyone enjoy your Horoscope Enforced Bad News Bears for a wizard who was stupid enough to start a fight in stabbing range.

(Seriously, Paralysis when there's a rogue in melee range who goes before you get your next saving throw is a bad time to be paralyzed)

I'll start figuring out how to dismantle the Giant next I guess.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:01, Thu 30 July 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 688 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 01:16
  • msg #138

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
While I love having contingent defaults, I think it's not really fair to the DM to have to cross-reference.  I've played in super-contingent games, and they quickly burned out everyone.


Oh certainly. I really mean to do whatever - rough ideas are there if people need it, but I'll not be mad if I came back to find that people decided to do something else!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 155 posts
HP: 14/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 06:09
  • msg #139

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh right, I forgot to roll my hit dice for heals, one sec.

EDIT:  Maxed me out it seems.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:11, Thu 30 July 2020.
GM
GM, 1769 posts
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 06:43
  • msg #140

Re: OOC Chat - 004

*shakes fist*

I had plans! Such plans!

And yea that was a pretty nice combo right there. Rip my mini-boss fight

RE: Claire's thing - if you stuff that in a PM I can easily refer to, I will try to adhere to it. Otherwise what U'lin said - dodge or obvious attacks are what I'll default to.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 156 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 06:49
  • msg #141

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
*shakes fist*

I had plans! Such plans!

And yea that was a pretty nice combo right there. Rip my mini-boss fight

RE: Claire's thing - if you stuff that in a PM I can easily refer to, I will try to adhere to it. Otherwise what U'lin said - dodge or obvious attacks are what I'll default to.


Look man I've got three chances to be awesome per major checkpoint in your system, I made sure to pick my spells for maximum impact as a result.

If my spell doesn't turn the tide of a battle, then I'm using it poorly.

(And seriously, what fun is there in just picking the blasty stuff when I can do such creative things with field control?)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:51, Thu 30 July 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 689 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 06:53
  • msg #142

Re: OOC Chat - 004

NOT THE HORSE

How save-able is it? D:
Moira Ruadh
player, 1071 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 06:53
  • msg #143

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM:
Moira's two attacks crit. Moira - do you want to finish him lethally or nonlethally?


Also DM:
horse 1 is dying


Oh, this guy is mince meat.

As for the horse and wagon situation - hopefully U'lin can repair the wheel later so we don't have to abandon the wagon, but can anyone pop some healing on the horse to keep it from dying?  Moira doesn't have any potions or anything useful aside from stabby damage output right now.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 157 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 07:06
  • msg #144

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
NOT THE HORSE

How save-able is it? D:


Mostly dead is still slightly alive!

(I think it'll live as long as you can stabilize it and it doesn't get another rock dropped on it)
GM
GM, 1770 posts
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 09:33
  • msg #145

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Claire Larkspur:
NOT THE HORSE

How save-able is it? D:


Mostly dead is still slightly alive!

(I think it'll live as long as you can stabilize it and it doesn't get another rock dropped on it)


What Zaiya said.

Man I didn't even get a chance to show off the cool magic item on the bandit leader *cough*
Zaiya Alvina
player, 159 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 16:09
  • msg #146

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Zaiya Alvina:
Claire Larkspur:
NOT THE HORSE

How save-able is it? D:


Mostly dead is still slightly alive!

(I think it'll live as long as you can stabilize it and it doesn't get another rock dropped on it)


What Zaiya said.

Man I didn't even get a chance to show off the cool magic item on the bandit leader *cough*


Haha, in my defense, when a wizard is shittalking you while surrounded by melee, I don't want to take any chances  He could Misty Step or that Thunder Step at any time!
This message was last edited by the player at 16:09, Thu 30 July 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1074 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 20:14
  • msg #147

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright, huddle time for planning.

We've got 3 rounds, which I doubt would be enough to fully change up the horses and coffin to the war wagon, or repair a crushed wagon wheel.  We can always abandon the wagons entirely for the sake of running ourselves and Thente to safety on horseback, but would be basically sacrificing not only both wagons but Stoor's body as well since the Hill Giant is surely going to come back for "Baby" soon and destroy everything in her anger.  So not really an option there.

Magic people - y'all got anything that can work with some prep time?  Moira is strictly round-by-round damage output, so the best she can do is find a good trail of cover to scurry around in and take Sneak Attack potshots at long range.  The most she would benefit from magic would be any sort of buffing spells, but those are also "at the moment" as well.  Any of us can use the Javelin of Lightning but it's best in the hands of someone with a high STR score.
U'lin
player, 783 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 21:38
  • msg #148

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Not much more from U'lin.

He has concentration/AC boost up to tank.
Spiritual weapon out for bonus dmg.
Toll the dead's or melee attack for main dmg.

After that, it's weight into melee, and keep the giant occupied.

I have healing words to help folk back into battle, and U'lin can launch the javelin in the meantime, but he has a mix of utility and restorative spells.

Barring us able to slap a wagon wheel on/swap moira's wagon to back, it's a stick and fight situation.

I would think U'lin's actions, subject to discussion, would be javelin the giant, move the spiritual weapon closer to it, and check over the brigand leader/other brigands for anything to help in the battle, like potions or what have you.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 160 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 23:34
  • msg #149

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Alright, huddle time for planning.

We've got 3 rounds, which I doubt would be enough to fully change up the horses and coffin to the war wagon, or repair a crushed wagon wheel.  We can always abandon the wagons entirely for the sake of running ourselves and Thente to safety on horseback, but would be basically sacrificing not only both wagons but Stoor's body as well since the Hill Giant is surely going to come back for "Baby" soon and destroy everything in her anger.  So not really an option there.

Magic people - y'all got anything that can work with some prep time?  Moira is strictly round-by-round damage output, so the best she can do is find a good trail of cover to scurry around in and take Sneak Attack potshots at long range.  The most she would benefit from magic would be any sort of buffing spells, but those are also "at the moment" as well.  Any of us can use the Javelin of Lightning but it's best in the hands of someone with a high STR score.


Prep time?  Not really.

What I do have is that I can guarantee at least one round where they're Entangled thanks to Web.  I can force a failed Dex saving throw from my remaining Portent, which means we've got one round where we can really lay down the hurt.  Afterwards, it's pretty much Grease to knock her prone and hope that our side doesn't fail our Dex saving throws either while I bombard with Firebolt and/or Magic Missile.

A second round is possible but unlikely, because escaping from Web is a strength check, and Giant's have Strength Yes.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:35, Sun 02 Aug 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 692 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 02:38
  • msg #150

Re: OOC Chat - 004

My spells don't have a whole lot to offer in this situation other than damage and more damage.

I do have a horse however, which means I can absolutely out-tun the giant and possibly bait it further away?

If we're taking it down however, my role seems pretty clear!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1075 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 04:53
  • msg #151

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright, so it sounds like we're going to try and get the drop on the Hill Giant and just single-target burn as fast as we can then.  Claire up front holding its attention and running interference, U'lin in the middle where he can readily switch between short and mid-range as is necessary, while Moira and Zaiya keep far back out of sight and take pot shots.  Normally I'd be inclined to do Dual Attack + Auto-disengage + Bonus Action Dash to try and kite around the Giant for higher damage output, but Moira would get taken out in one shot if she gets caught in melee right now.  -_-  Diving into a cluster was fun, but those crits she ate hurt.  We really need to look into getting our hands on some potions.

DM - Since combat is paused and we're prepping for the Giant's return, would we be able to get a Surprise round as everyone pops up to wallop her out of the blue?
This message was last edited by the player at 04:54, Mon 03 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1774 posts
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 05:00
  • msg #152

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I would say only U'lin (and maybe Moira with a hide check) can "surprise" the giant, since she's not expecting an attack from you two, but everyone else was recognized as "hostile" so she's vaguely aware of them. That said you guys can still initiate attacks on the 2nd prep round to effectively "get the drop" before she comes back.

Effectively this would be:

Moira + U'lin - attack with advantage
Claire + Zaiya act normally

--> giant takes her turn

everyone acts normally

---> so on so forth.

This also gives you the 1st round to reposition, so go ahead and indicate where you want to be. Post your desired location + your 1st round of attacks. Assume the Hill Giant will be at X-Z/18-20
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:00, Mon 03 Aug 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 162 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 17:00
  • msg #153

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So yeah, if you guys are willing to hold action once you're in melee, Zaiya can do that thing I mentioned where she Entangles the giant first.
GM
GM, 1778 posts
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 17:31
  • msg #154

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If this is the Web spell, then yea it will only trigger at the start of the giant's turn- so you guys will need to ready an action against it to potentially benefit from the Restrain.

I'll say the cliffs and trees provide enough anchor points for it.
U'lin
player, 785 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 17:39
  • msg #155

Re: OOC Chat - 004

so bonus action would occur without bonus, and retained attack would be at advantage?

Grease would impose prone now, and all attacks could occur now with advantage?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 163 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 17:42
  • msg #156

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I could also do Grease, yeah, but that'd make Moira's shot harder to make.
U'lin
player, 786 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 18:11
  • msg #157

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah, right, right - she's ranged, not melee now.

Sure, I'll take a regular bonus, and hammer adv.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1078 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 19:59
  • msg #158

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira is likely to be doing a minimum of the damage output at the moment, so go right ahead and cast Grease if that helps the odds of Claire and U'lin right up front.  Moira gets Advantage from being Hidden, so it comes down to a straight roll vs. a Prone target.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 164 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 20:00
  • msg #159

Re: OOC Chat - 004

As you wish!
Claire Larkspur
player, 696 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 8 Aug 2020
at 21:33
  • msg #160

Re: OOC Chat - 004

While we might potentially learn something interesting if we deal a non-lethal blow, I somehow doubt Claire would be of mind to do so in the heat of battle.
U'lin
player, 788 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 8 Aug 2020
at 22:02
  • msg #161

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
While we might potentially learn something interesting if we deal a non-lethal blow, I somehow doubt Claire would be of mind to do so in the heat of battle.

Yeah... I agree.
U'lin, in discussion, would certainly do non-lethal (especially in the "baby" situation), and hope for some information.

But in a situation where the party has been ambushed, the giant has nearly killed a member of the party - well two, if U'lin counts alongside the horse - and the giant has nearly mindlessly killed and devoured many others... hmm.  Tough to think restrain/checking blow.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1081 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 00:54
  • msg #162

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The sudden questions about whether we want to do lethal or non-lethal makes me feel like there was a chunk of story here we're missing out on.  ^^;  But I agree with everyone else so far - we went into this situation expecting to cut loose and burn this enemy down as fast as possible, so that doesn't really lend itself to holding back on the finishing blow.  Besides, it's unlikely we'd be able to get much out of a Hill Giant anyway.  We'd probably have more luck seeing if we can find a surviving bandit who might've been able to hide amid the chaos.

But the real red letter question here (for extra horror points) is whether that one bandit the Hill Giant swallowed whole earlier is still alive in her stomach and might be able to be cut free before he suffocates.  Y'know, traumatized for life, but still.
U'lin
player, 789 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 01:12
  • msg #163

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
The sudden questions about whether we want to do lethal or non-lethal makes me feel like there was a chunk of story here we're missing out on.  ^^;  ...
I know, right? :p

Moira Ruadh:
But the real red letter question here (for extra horror points) is whether that one bandit the Hill Giant swallowed whole earlier is still alive in her stomach and might be able to be cut free before he suffocates.  Y'know, traumatized for life, but still.
Oh I like!  Sharp thinking.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1082 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 01:14
  • msg #164

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Normally one would chalk up a character who's been eaten as dead to rights, but I've been in way too many campaigns where the table's resident Barbarian decided to pull a Drax and thus made it a point to always know what sort of rules there are surrounding characters being swallowed whole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEdhIPgyA-Y
This message was last edited by the player at 01:15, Sun 09 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1782 posts
Sun 9 Aug 2020
at 04:35
  • msg #165

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I asked because I thought there were hints of wanting to spare the giant (partly from U'lins line about sleeping)

Since that's not the case, I'll proceed with lethal. Thanks for keeping in character guys

Can't update today, will post tomorrow due to busy/tired.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1083 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 00:38
  • msg #166

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thanks for the update, DM.

So looking at our current situation, it would probably be easiest to sort the war wagon up to the front and haul Moira's wagon to Triboar, where we can either get it repaired or sell it for scrap and get a new one.  I doubt we can comfortably get along with just the war wagon alone given all we're hauling and how packed it up will eventually be with stuff.

Regarding the bandits and the Hill Giant; I doubt we can move the Hill Giant corpse, but we should at least tidy up the bodies as best we can into one spot rather than leaving them all scattered around the road.  Since we have all the surely stolen guard gear, the Bandit Leader's intact body, and his notes it would likely be wise for us to take it all into Triboar and report it to the sheriff.  There might be a reward in it for us and, even if there isn't, it's the right thing to do on the social side.  Organized bandits with a pet Hill Giant attacking people just outside of town using the guards' own colors is something worth reporting.

Magic folk - Can anyone "Detect Magic"/"Identify" the equipment to see if anything besides the boots are magical as well/figure out what the boots are?  Given that we already have one cursed item on hand, I'm not inclined to trust any magic gear we come across without a thorough investigation first.
U'lin
player, 790 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 03:39
  • msg #167

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
So looking at our current situation, it would probably be easiest to sort the war wagon up to the front and haul Moira's wagon to Triboar, where we can either get it repaired or sell it for scrap and get a new one.  I doubt we can comfortably get along with just the war wagon alone given all we're hauling and how packed it up will eventually be with stuff.
My thoughts as well.  U'lin can mend much, but the value of a wagon ... might be better to take some parts.

Moira Ruadh:
Since we have all the surely stolen guard gear, the Bandit Leader's intact body, and his notes it would likely be wise for us to take it all into Triboar and report it to the sheriff.  There might be a reward in it for us ...
Keeping in mind the "mandatory pressgang"

Could we manage a safe, remote, not shackled into service update/reward receipt?

Moira Ruadh:
Magic folk - Can anyone "Detect Magic"/"Identify" the equipment to see if anything besides the boots are magical as well/figure out what the boots are?  Given that we already have one cursed item on hand, I'm not inclined to trust any magic gear we come across without a thorough investigation first.
U'lin can adn will, though I expect Zaiya has perks to find out more.
Claire Larkspur
player, 697 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 03:42
  • msg #168

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It might be worth reporting the Hill giant to SEER too.
U'lin
player, 791 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 03:49
  • msg #169

Re: OOC Chat - 004

As an aside, so difficult treating this combat/resolution seriously.

MAGA, crying like a big baby.
A bully that lies constantly.
If it had been trying to put its face on South Dakota mountains, there'd be a clean sweep.

:)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1084 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 03:57
  • msg #170

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ugh, I don't want any real life in my escapism.  >_<

Re-reading the Bandit Leader note, it also occurs to me we might want to try finding some of those hideouts as well if we're going to be lingering in Triboar.  They're likely to be very close nearby and, if we have the support of the town guard, could be a useful boost to our funds as well.

And yeah, absolutely report the Hill Giant to SEER.  Moira's always hands-off on the magical field reports though, so she'll leave that to everyone else.  I absently look forward to the day she has no choice but to make a report herself and likely screws it up.  It's bound to be like someone recording an away message on their voice mail and having half of it be "is that good?  Did I do it right?  How do I know if it worked?  Do I press this button to turn--"
This message was last edited by the player at 04:04, Tue 11 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1784 posts
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 04:21
  • msg #171

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
As an aside, so difficult treating this combat/resolution seriously.

MAGA, crying like a big baby.
A bully that lies constantly.
If it had been trying to put its face on South Dakota mountains, there'd be a clean sweep.

:)


Hmm, is this a negative? Can't tell if you're saying it felt like a poor conclusion.
U'lin
player, 792 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 04:37
  • msg #172

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh no no.

Make America Great Agsin?MAGA
Trump just... Ugh


Encounter resolved wonderfully
GM
GM, 1785 posts
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 05:59
  • msg #173

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Oh no no.

Make America Great Agsin?MAGA
Trump just... Ugh


Encounter resolved wonderfully


Oh god I wasn't even considering that when I named the Giant. Sorry Moira!! D:

Now, logistics:

If Zaiya and U'lin are both attempting Identify, I'll roll for you each and PM you the result. I will also say that there are no other magical auras on the items collected. I assume U'lin is doing so - Zaiya, could you confirm here or IC?

Also Zaiya - if you wanna type up a SENDING to SEER in the reporting thread, please do.

Hitching up the wagon will take about half an hour. Gathering the bodies and such will take about an hour - I'll say you can do both simultaneously.

The next town along the way is actually Westbridge. We don't have to spend too much time there - collecting bounties and reporting the information will take a few hours at most - the activity can be compressed into a few posts (depending on what questions you want to ask).

If you want to search the hideouts and collect stuff with the guard though, that would take significantly more time (at least a day or two). Do note that some of the bandits did manage to escape.

Lastly but most importantly: Milestone reached - everyone levels up.

Party is now Level 5.

I wanted to do this after the Pit encounter, but it felt a bit too quick after Zaiya was introduced, so this is a bit of a delayed level up :P
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:59, Tue 11 Aug 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1086 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 06:45
  • msg #174

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yay new level!  Come to me, Uncanny Dodge and another d6 of Sneak Attack damage.  We shall accomplish great things together.

I thought we'd already passed Westbridge though since we were hustling right along on account of Thente?  No worries if that was just me being confused on our pace though.

As for how long we stay in Triboar, I suppose that depends entirely on how long it takes to get the wagon repaired.  Moira has a friend who lives there they might be able to stay with for a day or two/who can watch Thente while repairs are underway, during which time the party can help out the guard with finding the hideouts if there was any interest.  Otherwise we might just be able to proceed directly to Yartar and have it repaired there instead if hauling the damaged wagon isn't too much trouble, like we did with the pre-war wagon to Red Larch.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:00, Tue 11 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1786 posts
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 07:39
  • msg #175

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah, my mistake in communication - you're actually just really near Westbridge. Its possible to hustle past it if you want. And yea, you could delay repairing the wagon till Triboar/Yartar, especially if U'lin reinforces it a bit to keep it from falling apart while its hitched.

That does mean that the "hunt for hideouts" bit won't work though- the lairs aren't near Triboar at all. I will also add that the intent here is to give a choice - delay bringing Thente to Yartar to investigate the caches? Given the party's personality, I can imagine the outcome, but felt that the choice should be presented anyway. Do tell me if the number of "side quests that can't be taken" is starting to create feels-bads.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1087 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 07:45
  • msg #176

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In-character, Moira wouldn't be as eager to go around digging out the remaining bandits/their hideouts since the party is actually further from Triboar than I realized.  Thente is still the priority and she'd never bail on that sort of responsibility to go rooting around for profit, especially not after she was entirely willing to just bail on the bandits before the party was forced into combat.

I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts as well, but with the actual distance involved, Moira would most likely stick with making a report of what happened in Westbridge first to let them know and let them handle the remaining bandits/hideouts, then move on to Triboar for repairs and to fully report the whole affair/turn over the Bandit Leader's body and all the stolen Triboar gear.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:45, Tue 11 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1787 posts
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 08:29
  • msg #177

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh! For the level-up: please PM me your changes. Doesn't have to be too detailed, mostly for book-keeping purposes (what spells you picked, any notable new features...etc)
U'lin
player, 793 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 12:15
  • msg #178

Re: OOC Chat - 004

As player, I hate leaving there treasurer caves behind.

IC, Thente is not in peril.  If he was dying, different story.

Our main goal is finding info re Giants, and you have mage that note takes, and has a captive giant pet.
The additional knowledge re bandit areas, recovering stolen property... I just think how important recovering an empty wagon was to red larvh, and those kobold items were.

I would vote for curving the hideaways, since they wouldn't be too far from the  road because of transporting goods
Moira Ruadh
player, 1088 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 12:18
  • msg #179

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Player-wise, I'm not against it at all, especially since we are a bit short of funds in general even with our current victory loot.  Character-wise, however, will require some convincing since hitting the hideouts would basically require the party to leave Thente under some stranger's watch in Westbridge.
GM
GM, 1788 posts
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 17:24
  • msg #180

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If it helps, "treasure caves" is a bit of an exaggeration. And you guys -will- get a bounty for the bandits :)
U'lin
player, 794 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 18:20
  • msg #181

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Let's split the difference.

The ones closer to roads, so we can leave Thente in the war wagon with an alarm on it, are the more likely to have more loot, since easier to transport.

The ones deeper away are more likely to be hideaway bolt holes - arguably where the cream might be, but more likely where hiding, not looting sites would be located.  They're the longest time commitment and lowest likelihood for goods, so drop them?

That's all terribly vague, without knowing the number and distances, etc. but exploration at speed of plot makes sense :)
U'lin
player, 795 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 20:01
  • msg #182

Re: OOC Chat - 004

5th is such a huge level.  As Moira noted for her!

U'lin increases spell DC/attack

3rd level spells (OMG 3rds - the rockstars of spell levels - so many uber useful spells - this is ALWAYS where I feel the known/ready pinch),

other spells up effects.. tons of work, but much happiness!

And best part - U'lin's armour is finished!  Huzzah!  Huzzah!

~
As an aside, we need to start stocking up on 300gp diamonds for revivify.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:15, Tue 11 Aug 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1089 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 03:30
  • msg #183

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I've always felt Revivify should work with 100 GP worth of diamonds, as opposed to 300 GP worth.  Like, I've been in plenty of games where the party never once saw a single gem of significant value even when we were actively seeking them out.  300 GP of diamonds has always struck me as being really steep for what's functionally a "break glass in case of emergency" recovery spell.  But that may just be me, so... meh.

Back on topic: the bandit hideouts.  I'm okay with popping our head at any which are along the way and seem like they'd be a reasonable diversion without being too risky to Thente, sure.  I was expecting they're more like little hiding spots where the bandits store some bug-out-bags and emergency supplies rather than anything fortified anyway.  While the remaining survivors are bound to run to each of the nearest locations to grab what they can and flee immediately, they are reduced in number and no doubt unlikely to mess with us again, so it's a toss-up of what we'll get there.
U'lin
player, 797 posts
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+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 03:48
  • msg #184

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Completely agreed on both counts.
GM
GM, 1790 posts
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 08:07
  • msg #185

Re: OOC Chat - 004

1) RE: Focuses - Holy Symbol substitutes for any focus that a spell components pouch can substitute for. Otherwise, if it costs significant amount of gold you need the actual component. Clairvoyance specifies a focus worth 100gp, so you would need to purchase it somehow (Triboar being the next best place for such a thing, though Westbridge might too if theres a good alchemist/magic shop there).

2) I've updated the Loot Thread - the bandits' weapons/armor will be sellable to the guard, so I'll hand-wave the process and compress it into GP for distribution. The Triboar-issued ones are a bit more complex, and will be dealt with when you reach Westbridge. Unless U'lin wants to break the items down for scrap?

3) Who wants the potion?

4) Are you burying all the bandit bodies? As a friendly reminder- you'll need something as proof for the bounties. What are you taking?

5) There are five bolt holes - two are within an hour's walk from the road, the other three are much further. Shall I assume based on current discussion the party is heading for the nearest two for now?

6) Lore-wise, diamonds for revivify are significantly easier to acquire and under less scrutiny than "Life-Diamond" (referring to single diamonds worth 500gp each). Mostly because a lot of it is in diamond "fragments" - tiny tiny diamonds, dust/dregs from cutting/polishing. Carefully measured amounts of diamond components are purchaseable at any major town or trading hub in limited amounts - Triboar, Yartar, Luskan and Waterdeep are all locations where they can be easily acquired. Smaller towns may have them, depending on proximity to the trade routes/diamond mines, and will require a check to "find".
Moira Ruadh
player, 1091 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 09:59
  • msg #186

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Boots
Yay for the Boots of Striding and Springing.  I've been aching for a set of those for ages to get Moira up to 30' walk speed with the rest of the party.  ^^  But the real question is if the DM would be generous enough to let me use DEX instead of STR for the jump distance formula.  It's a marked difference considering Moira's negative STR score and Small size, as her height directly impacts the range as well.

Jump with Boots using STR:
Running Start Long Jump - 24' horizontally
Running Start High Jump - 6' vertically
Running Start Reach and Grab - 10.5' vertically

Standstill Long Jump - 12' horizontally
Standstill High Jump - 3' vertically
Standstill Reach and Grab - 7.5' vertically

Obstacle Clearance - Leap over obstacles up to 6' tall


Jump with Boots using DEX:
Running Start Long Jump - 48' horizontally
Running Start High Jump - 18' vertically
Running Start Reach and Grab - 22.5' vertically

Standstill Long Jump - 24' horizontally
Standstill High Jump - 9' vertically
Standstill Reach and Grab - 13.5' vertically

Obstacle Clearance - Leap over obstacles up to 12' tall


Potion
Not sure on this one.  Does Zaiya have any potions of her own left over?

Burying Bodies/Taking Proof
Maybe not full shallow graves but at least gathering and covering what's left of the bodies with a mound, likely alongside the unburied Giant.  Unless someone magical has "Mold Earth", which would make the digging process a lot faster.

What would be a viable practice for proving a kill in this setting, DM?  My initial thought was to take ears (particularly in the case of the Giant) but that also strikes me as kind of barbaric?  What's an acceptable token of proof?

Hideouts
I'd like to hear from Claire and Zaiya first before we confirm our next destination.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:02, Wed 12 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1792 posts
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 11:21
  • msg #187

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Gonna have to say no to the jump thing. However, its entirely possible for such a mechanic to be implemented via a magic item or an upgrade. Especially with all these giant runes around...

RE:Proof- I'm torn between realistic and not-being-morbid. But lets try this:

If you want to claim bounties, you need their head or something distinctive about them. The bandit leader in this case is recognizable - his rapier and the magic boots can be used to claim the bounty for him and presumably the rest of the band.

However, if the party wants to claim bounty for "small fry" in the future, they'll need to either capture them alive, or take the heads. I think this gives a bit more motivation for "capture" over "kill" (with associated difficulties) that fits the level of realism I want.

What do you guys think?

For the giant, any thing thats obviously giant (ears probably being the best) works. Stuff like teeth don't, because you can claim multiple bounties.
U'lin
player, 798 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 12:52
  • msg #188

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Less grusome to toss the bodies into Moira wagon.
, And take just the giant head
Moira Ruadh
player, 1092 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 12:54
  • msg #189

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The trouble there is that we don't necessarily have all the bodies in a verifiable state.  Some were eaten whole and others are likely pulped into the dirt, so that becomes a problem for recovering identifiable remains.

Given that we've got several suits of blood-stained armor and the Bandit Leader's intact body, hopefully that'll be enough to serve our purpose when it comes to verifying numbers.  Additionally, we can always tell the sheriff where the fight took place if they want to send out scouts to verify/deal with the Giant corpse later.
U'lin
player, 799 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 14:13
  • msg #190

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Good points as always, Moira.  Such a pleasure playing with you, even when we disagree on direction :p

Another option is just taking left hands or such.  "Sorry, many of the bodies were destroyed when the giant rampaged and ate part of them."

I'd rather not rely upon someone else to have to ride out and verify, as it depends on them
1) doing more work
2) while numbers constrained/facing hordes
3) relies upon the scene not being messed by scavenging animals, and
4) relies upon that person's competence.

Not to mention the time delay, even if it is done.
There has been a strong time crunch feel - I keep trying to balance it between checking myself at whether this is player interpretation or IC time constraints :)
U'lin
player, 800 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 14:15
  • msg #191

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Gonna have to say no to the jump thing. However, its entirely possible for such a mechanic to be implemented via a magic item or an upgrade. Especially with all these giant runes around...
I like the augment and improve option so it opens up the boots for more practical use by Moira.

If we cannot find runes, Zoira or U'lin could also tinker with the magic in trying to understand it, and accidentally change it to dex - oops :p
GM
GM, 1793 posts
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 16:53
  • msg #192

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
GM:
Gonna have to say no to the jump thing. However, its entirely possible for such a mechanic to be implemented via a magic item or an upgrade. Especially with all these giant runes around...
I like the augment and improve option so it opens up the boots for more practical use by Moira.

If we cannot find runes, Zoira or U'lin could also tinker with the magic in trying to understand it, and accidentally change it to dex - oops :p


The last option is possible but will also have a very high risk of "bricking" the boots, rendering them non-functional.

My general approach atm is if I'm going to homebrew, it's in magic items, and usually magic items that are obtained via player driven effort (U'lins hammer for example)
U'lin
player, 801 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 17:31
  • msg #193

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
GM:
Gonna have to say no to the jump thing. However, its entirely possible for such a mechanic to be implemented via a magic item or an upgrade. Especially with all these giant runes around...
I like the augment and improve option so it opens up the boots for more practical use by Moira.

If we cannot find runes, Zoira or U'lin could also tinker with the magic in trying to understand it, and accidentally change it to dex - oops :p


The last option is possible but will also have a very high risk of "bricking" the boots, rendering them non-functional.

My general approach atm is if I'm going to homebrew, it's in magic items, and usually magic items that are obtained via player driven effort (U'lins hammer for example)

Oh god yes.  I was thinking more an ic,DM-driven reason if he was changed his mind on the rune for story/plot reasons.  Hand-waivyness :)
U'lin
player, 802 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 20:29
  • msg #194

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well done all, in crushing the DM's spirits and plans, and keeping the PCs alive to strive again!

(As an aside, I quite liked the targeting aspect of the lights - the rest of m'mates were thumbs-up to it as well... and even more glad it didn't last more than one volley! :) )
Claire Larkspur
player, 700 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 22:16
  • msg #195

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yay for level up! I can wait to try my new extra attack on the next hapless bandit. >:)

@GM When possible, I'd like to use my Find Steed spell to 'improve' Glory at some point, as we've discussed before. Perhaps fluffing it as a 'blessing' at a temple would make sense?

As for the hideouts, as a player I'm all for going for them, but ICly I don't think Claire would be comfortable venturing out to deal with them unless they were very near the main road, since of all our characters, she has perhaps the biggest interest in Thente's health.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:18, Wed 12 Aug 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1093 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 22:21
  • msg #196

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
GM:
Gonna have to say no to the jump thing. However, its entirely possible for such a mechanic to be implemented via a magic item or an upgrade. Especially with all these giant runes around...
I like the augment and improve option so it opens up the boots for more practical use by Moira.

If we cannot find runes, Zoira or U'lin could also tinker with the magic in trying to understand it, and accidentally change it to dex - oops :p


The last option is possible but will also have a very high risk of "bricking" the boots, rendering them non-functional.

My general approach atm is if I'm going to homebrew, it's in magic items, and usually magic items that are obtained via player driven effort (U'lins hammer for example)


Might be best to just wear the boots as-is and hope those friendly Halfling deities (ie, literally all of them) might see fit to give Moira a boon someday after sufficient use and accomplishment.  That, or find some Gauntlets of Ogre Power and really confuse people Moira fights.  :)
Zaiya Alvina
player, 167 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 10:01
  • msg #197

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh hey!  A level up that I missed!

Level 5, the point where the good shit begins to appear.  Magnificent

Of course, the flipside is "I have to choose between useful Wizard staples right now, or cool utility stuff that might only have a use once in a blue moon".  Since Clairvoyance won't be something I can use for a while though, I'll probably pick that up later, and since we have a device for it, I can probably skip Sending too.

Unless you guys have anything else in mind, I'm thinking of going with the standard Fireball + Dispel Magic for my third level spells.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:10, Thu 13 Aug 2020.
U'lin
player, 803 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 12:40
  • msg #198

Re: OOC Chat - 004

ulin can dispel

... But counterspell is huge.  Certainly wish priests had it
GM
GM, 1795 posts
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 13:01
  • msg #199

Re: OOC Chat - 004

*rubs hands*

5th is a major power boost. Once you guys hit somewhere around 6-7th level, the level ups will come slower. Just a headsup :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1094 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 16:16
  • msg #200

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM - is the second skill check a group check as well, or an individual check that should be left to the highest-skilled character with someone Helping them for Advantage?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:16, Thu 13 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1796 posts
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 16:31
  • msg #201

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Same as the first - anyone can attempt, I'll take the highest result. If you want to usue advantage via help/guidance, that's fine too.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 168 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 13 Aug 2020
at 18:42
  • msg #202

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I've got a really good Investigation score of that helps?
GM
GM, 1797 posts
Fri 14 Aug 2020
at 02:31
  • msg #203

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Go ahead and roll then ^^
Zaiya Alvina
player, 169 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 14 Aug 2020
at 10:19
  • msg #204

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Going to use my Inspiration on that I think...

Looks like that's a 24 friends.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:19, Fri 14 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1799 posts
Sun 16 Aug 2020
at 07:14
  • msg #205

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Weekend, so no rush to post. That said- any thoughts on handling the glyph?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1097 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 16 Aug 2020
at 07:43
  • msg #206

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I got a whole lot of nothin' for that, so it's up to the magic folk to figure it out.  Moira is just as likely to suggest the old "ten-foot pole" approach.
GM
GM, 1801 posts
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 07:47
  • msg #207

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So it looks like the party has three options:

1) Abandon the stash, come back later
2) Shoot/poke at it from a distance
3) Hope that Zaiya figures something out (Arcana check, failure might cause things to go boom)

Whats the party vote?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1100 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 07:58
  • msg #208

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm waiting for Zaiya's input on the matter to see if she can figure out anything more specific about the ward.  Like, if it's just meant to be an alarm or to injure the person touching it, then we could trip it at a safe distance no problem.  If it's the sort where it explodes and destroys whatever it's protecting as well, then best we leave it alone for now and come back when we have a dispel option.
GM
GM, 1802 posts
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 10:06
  • msg #209

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm, that would be an Arcana check on Zaiyas part to determine the type of glyph and it's effect, with the caveat that if she fails the DC by too much she might accidentally trigger the glyph.
U'lin
player, 806 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 12:48
  • msg #210

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
I'm waiting for Zaiya's input on the matter to see if she can figure out anything more specific about the ward.  Like, if it's just meant to be an alarm or to injure the person touching it, then we could trip it at a safe distance no problem.  If it's the sort where it explodes and destroys whatever it's protecting as well, then best we leave it alone for now and come back when we have a dispel option.

What she said.

I'm presuming that I don't have access to my 3rds from levelling until I pray? (Dispel was one of the 3rds I selected).
Oh, or are they also "not until rest at big centre"?
GM
GM, 1803 posts
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 14:53
  • msg #211

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Unfortunately yes, but a big centre is coming up now. If you guys want to come back after a rest, we can do that too.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 170 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 18:42
  • msg #212

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmmm...

(Looks at things)

I suppose I can call on a Guidance for my arcana check, right?
GM
GM, 1804 posts
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 21:29
  • msg #213

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Hmmm...

(Looks at things)

I suppose I can call on a Guidance for my arcana check, right?


Sure thing.
U'lin
player, 807 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 18 Aug 2020
at 17:24
  • msg #214

Re: OOC Chat - 004

oooo.. the suspense
Zaiya Alvina
player, 171 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 18 Aug 2020
at 20:02
  • msg #215

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Then that'll be 23 I think.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 172 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 19 Aug 2020
at 19:55
  • msg #216

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm, presumably we can't use our shiny new Level 3 spells yet, huh?
GM
GM, 1806 posts
Wed 19 Aug 2020
at 20:20
  • msg #217

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Hmm, presumably we can't use our shiny new Level 3 spells yet, huh?


Nope >:)
U'lin
player, 808 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 00:36
  • msg #218

Re: OOC Chat - 004

but you can have guidance on arcana and disable checks, my friends!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1101 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 00:52
  • msg #219

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira gets a +9 on Thieves' Tool checks, so with even a bare-minimum roll with Guidance that puts us halfway to the DC already.  Zaiya, do you have any more "I decide what the dice say" powers left?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 173 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 10:50
  • msg #220

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I used both of them unfortunately :(

Though it went a long way to trivialize that last fight so I think they were well spent.

Zaiya can certainly provide Assistance though by spotting for our lockpick!
This message was last edited by the player at 10:50, Thu 20 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1807 posts
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 10:53
  • msg #221

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Eh, sure. Zaiya rolled high enough on the Arcana that I'll say she can Aid Another Moira for an advantage on that check

Go ahead and give me a check with guidance, advantage and some description of how you are approaching the glyph issue.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:54, Thu 20 Aug 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1102 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 20 Aug 2020
at 11:43
  • msg #222

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I somehow rolled stupidly high in the first place, but the more the better!
Claire Larkspur
player, 704 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 04:14
  • msg #223

Re: OOC Chat - 004

rpol lives!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1106 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 04:22
  • msg #224

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I wonder which part of their server caught fire this time to have been down for that long.
GM
GM, 1814 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 14:05
  • msg #225

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm going to make a backup of the game's contents just in case.

In addition, in the event rpol does die before this campaigh I'll like a backup means of contacting you folks. Any suggestions? I'm thinking giving you guys a throwaway email you can message (i.e. if you still want to continue, ping me there).

Re:the latest update - I've been skimming stuff to keep things light. If the party is interested in pursuing any hooks, do tell me. Otherwise we'll head back onto the road.

(Also do tell me if you want to sell the cart for 10gp :P)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1107 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 16:08
  • msg #226

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In Case of Emergency
I wouldn't mind having some form of backup contact to keep in touch with everyone, or just you the DM, sure.  There was a minute or two over the weekend where I did entertain the worry of "what if RPOL just doesn't come back online again?" that didn't settle well with me at all.  If nothing else, we can always share a Google Doc and keep in contact with one another that way.

Selling the Wagon
I'm not against the idea, though it depends on whether we actually have enough space to handle everything in the war wagon?  DM, U'lin, can you clarify on that a bit?  It may just be me misunderstanding the actual scale/capacity of the war wagon, but I was under the impression it was designed more like a mobile workshop with mounted weapons and less of an actual travel vehicle.  Does it actually have sufficient space to comfortably house the party, all their supplies, the coffin, and Thente?

Like, if it's a tight squeeze but manageable in the short term, it might be a good idea for us to do that until we get to Triboar for Moira to buy a new wagon.  We can always reduce the number of people inside by having Claire and Moira ride on Glory rather than in the war wagon.

Latest Update and Events
Normally I'd be keen to poke my nose into other NPCs' business for plot hooks, but given the context we're in with Thente, I can't honestly say Moira would be inclined to hang around any longer than is necessary.  If there was something that forced the party to hang around for a day or so longer than they planned or double-back later on on and return to Westbridge, maybe, but otherwise she's keen to get back on the road as soon as possible.

At the very least Moira would like to visit the Coinmaiden's Shrine and The Happy Halfling in passing.  It was something of a brief mention to the party before (I believe prior to Zaiya joining?) but Moira is related to the Longstocking family and will want to pop in to chat with them.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:11, Mon 24 Aug 2020.
GM
GM, 1815 posts
Mon 24 Aug 2020
at 18:20
  • msg #227

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll look at a Gmail account to share here.

Yes to the squeezing- it will be cramped as heck and you'll basically be sitting on her coffin, with Thente shoved in a corner but yes.

We can do a brief summary of the shrine + inn if Moira likes. Basically tell me what she does there in a narrative sense.

Note that the Guard -does- have healers, and depending on how you look at it Thente can be considered an emergency case...
GM
GM, 1816 posts
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 05:56
  • msg #228

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Also, in case it wasn't obvious - what about the rest of party? Where do you guys want to go?
Claire Larkspur
player, 705 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 09:25
  • msg #229

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Emergency contact
I'm also good with a google doc, email or whatever means the group is comfortable with to maintain contact.

Guard Healers
Unless somehow counselled against doing so, Claire would certainly try to bring Thente in. If nothing else, having another opinion would be better than having none, to her worried mind.

Westbridge
No objections either IC or OOC to Moira's stopping by the Longstockings. The party needs to rest up anyway, so choosing the Happy Halfling as their rest stop is good with Claire. If there's a spare moment, she'll probably pry herself from fussing over Thente by going to the markets to buy some provisions (in view of the town's primary trades, more ham and some dried fruit).
U'lin
player, 811 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 16:32
  • msg #230

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Smithies
For stock supplies.
With enough metal value, U'lin can channel divinity a new and better wagon for Moira - though I think from DM's previous discussion that U'lin would need to do the body separate from wheels, etc. as spacing/coverage limitation?


Emma's
On the chance Thente's condition is arcane related, U'lin would check out the reclusive forest witch - also helpful to know about road/woods condition if our travels take us that direction.

Potentially healing potions.

Hostlery
Check with stablehands about where to purchase a pair of wagon mounts, if we have the second wagon, or one horse as replacement if not.

Does this centre/inn qualify to restore abilities/spells/gain 3rds?

Re seating in the war wagon, we can mount it vertically to one of the walls (since we have internal height sufficient for U'lin), if same doesn't offend U'lin - and he has other designs to mount brackets inside or out upon the wagon to permit the coffin being stored upon the ceiling along the back wall (it folds down as door/ramp, and so doesn't have anything on it, but we could still make use of the ceiling footage vertically or horizontally, to avoid stepping on/sitting on the coffin.
External storage is another option.
GM
GM, 1817 posts
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 17:36
  • msg #231

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I will say with a few hours to cycle short rest + channel divinity, U'lin can repair the cart with 10gp worth of metal, essentially replacing all the wheels with it. Actually, I'll say U'lin can effectively repair the entire cart if he has access to scrap metal/wood from the quartermaster, which she would be willing to exchange for the party returning the armors and items recovered from the bandits. This includes the wagon mounts. The process will require most of the remaining evening from him.

The inn counts yes. I assume the party is resting in the town for the night. If they wish to pursue any rumors or visit the shrine/emmas, we can assume you do so in the morning. Again, the threads will be brief.

@Zaiya, what are your plans?

Currently:

Shrine: Moira
Healers: Claire + Thente
Alchemist: U'lin
Moira Ruadh
player, 1108 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 19:07
  • msg #232

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Wagon Repairs and Bandit Gear
When you say "and items recovered", I take it you mean their mundane gear like weapons and ammo?  Not the more powerful stuff like potions and magical items, right?  So long as the party isn't giving up anything important and can still get their bounty for turning it all in first, I don't see any reason why not to take this deal.  Plus it gives U'lin the opportunity to sneak in any customizations he might want to while Moira isn't looking.  ^^

Resting vs. Moving On
I'd say resting is probably a good idea since all you magic folk spent a lot of rechargeable resources in the last fight.  We need y'all with your spell slots/new spells/HD primed and ready.  No-Magic Moira wants to keep moving as much as is reasonable, but if the repairs and other business takes some time then she'd cave to staying in civilization rather than risk roughing it again.
GM
GM, 1818 posts
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 20:02
  • msg #233

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yup. Just the weapons and armor from the guard. Not the potions or gold- those are assumed as a finders fee ;)
Claire Larkspur
player, 706 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 20:19
  • msg #234

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@U'lin

Good idea with the witch! Claire might not initially think to ask her to take a look at Thente, but if the guard healers can't help, she would be easily convinced to take her chances with the witch.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:20, Tue 25 Aug 2020.
U'lin
player, 812 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 25 Aug 2020
at 21:46
  • msg #235

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Wagon Repairs and Bandit Gear... Plus it gives U'lin the opportunity to sneak in any customizations he might want to while Moira isn't looking.  ^^
*blink, blink*
I mean.. who would... it could have been anyone...

Moira Ruadh:
Resting vs. Moving On
I'd say resting is probably a good idea
I'd agree, especially with our 3rds needing to come online.
GM
GM, 1820 posts
Wed 26 Aug 2020
at 09:54
  • msg #236

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Does everyone want to visit the witch-alchemist together? If so I'll have Moiras shrine visit be done privately "out of time" so to speak.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1110 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 26 Aug 2020
at 10:21
  • msg #237

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira's not going to visit the witch/alchemist.  That whole affair completely out of her wheelhouse, so she'll let the others handle it so long as it seems safe.  She'll hang out in town in the meantime for her shrine visit and to do any mundane shopping the group needs for road supplies.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 176 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 18:24
  • msg #238

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Finished my most recent rotation, I'll take the rest of the day to settle down after my return trip and get cracking again tomorrow.
GM
GM, 1829 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 14:39
  • msg #239

Re: OOC Chat - 004

You know. Every now and then as a GM I have to appreciate characters like U'lin :P

Very refreshing.
U'lin
player, 815 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 14:54
  • msg #240

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
You know. Every now and then as a GM I have to appreciate characters like U'lin :P
Very refreshing.
boy brain: aww, thanks
husband brain: wait, he said now and then, so only in very small doses, which means I should change it to avoid.. - oh,no, I'm thinking like my wife again!!!!!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1116 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 15:28
  • msg #241

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I've come to see U'lin as a "character with a learning curve".  Some characters are easy to understand and operate with right out the gate, while others like him need a little while to get a handle on and appreciate.

And then you get mad-cap hijinx like challenging a Stone Giant to what was essentially a free form rap battle.  :)
This message was last edited by the player at 15:28, Mon 31 Aug 2020.
U'lin
player, 818 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 16:19
  • msg #242

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I am certainly trying to present as counterpoint/foil to Moira's worldy wisdom and experience, practicality, and solid in the hear and now.  U'lin is both sometimes too focused on his subject of concentration, and too distractable by the wonders of the non-city world in which he travels.

Yes, the Stone giant encounter was both terribly interesting and terrifying.
That it snowballed from U'lin's attempt to help draw the giant to actually simply pay attention to the party to start discussion... poetry.  Mwah.


I must say that the giants have certainly felt much more impactful and dangerous than I recall from other campaigns, and that's delightfully well done.
GM
GM, 1834 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 16:38
  • msg #243

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It's definitely nice to have distinct voices and PCs doing PC things as opposed to player things, if you catch what I mean.

U'lin:
I must say that the giants have certainly felt much more impactful and dangerous than I recall from other campaigns, and that's delightfully well done.


Thank you! That has been one of my chief goals in rendering SKT and I'm really glad you are enjoying it.

Gonna sleep now. Updates in 12 hours or so.
Claire Larkspur
player, 711 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 22:41
  • msg #244

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
I've come to see U'lin as a "character with a learning curve".  Some characters are easy to understand and operate with right out the gate, while others like him need a little while to get a handle on and appreciate.

This. U'lin is a nice, unique clergy-type character who mixes it up from Claire's more standard formula, I feel.
U'lin
player, 820 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 04:44
  • msg #245

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM:
OOC: The religion check was in case you needed a hint, but yea I think you guys can guess this after prior encounters. Do note that if you're offering to stay one more day someone should inform Moira :P
Dibs not it.

On serious note, it made sense for us to have someone in "emergency actor" position.  U'lin could not and still gain his spells (?), and I didn't see him as coming to that realization in this situation, so I was sure hoping Claire would post as she did.  Nicely done.

And loved the Moira crisis of identity - can't show weakness in front of the kids :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1123 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 23:33
  • msg #246

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Today's episode: "Moira Goes to Therapy".
U'lin
player, 821 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 04:51
  • msg #247

Re: OOC Chat - 004

quality RP there, Moira.
GM
GM, 1840 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 09:00
  • msg #248

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So is the party comfortable with spending another night in town to help Emma?

I intend to skip ahead once I resolve Moira's RP scene. Feel free to put any further questions you guys might ask of Emma the Alchemist in the IC thread.

If the party is staying in town, who is camping with Emma, and who is at the Happy Halfling? Any other actions you want to take for the rest of the day?

You may assume that Thente's sleeping body will be cared for by the army healers, who are perplexed by  his condition.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:04, Wed 02 Sept 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 178 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 14:02
  • msg #249

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm good with helping out how we can, I don't think we're in an immediate rush right now.
U'lin
player, 822 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 14:55
  • msg #250

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, does sleeping anywhere inside a town recharge spells?

If there isn't a problem, U'lin would stay with Claire, and send a message back to Moira if Zaiya is also staying.  (certainly not a slight against Zaiya!)

If it could be a problem, then back to the Inn.  Priority for U'lin needs to be accessing those 3rds, and specifically to help nix the lycanthropy.


Claire/Zaiya - how do you weigh in on the potential of disrupted sleep v. splitting party?
GM
GM, 1841 posts
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 15:02
  • msg #251

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yup! To clarify the resting rules:

1) long rests can only be taken in "sanctuaries"
2) all towns/villages are considered sanctuaries. Sleeping anywhere inside a town counts
3) outside of town, most shrines or places with a shrine function as sanctuaries
4) if a long rest is taken outside a sanctuary, the PC only gains the benefit of a short rest

Note that if your rest is disrupted or you sleep out in the cold you might not get rest benefits for other reasons. Like freezing to death.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1124 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 16:38
  • msg #252

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Once informed on the situation, Moira would be perfectly fine with staying in town another night to help out Emma and make sure the magic folk get their new 3rd level spells.  Thente's safe enough since there's active medical care in Westbridge, so if the choice is "get a few extra hours on the road" versus "doom a poor lady to become a werewolf and potentially slaughter an entire town, Moira's own family among the victims", then it's pretty obvious where she'd weigh on.
Claire Larkspur
player, 713 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 16:56
  • msg #253

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@U'lin Since it seems that staying at Emma's won't affect spell recharge, we might as well all stay together in case she suddenly becomes a werewolf in the middle of the night. The only reason for splitting might be for IC flavour? Like if U'lin needs to do meditation, ritual preparation or simply cannot afford to be disturbed at night. But I doubt leaving Claire and/or Zaiya alone with a werewolf is a good idea.

@GM Claire would also ask Emma if she would consent to being secured by rope to her bed for the night. Kinky perhaps, but safer for all - if she turns while restrained, at least we won't have to kill her.
U'lin
player, 823 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 2 Sep 2020
at 17:14
  • msg #254

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That was my thinking as well.
Additionally, U'lin can craft a stocks or non-kinky bed restraints for Emma if she would find metal securing fasteners more helpful for her peace of mind
Moira Ruadh
player, 1128 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 3 Sep 2020
at 01:48
  • msg #255

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Did... did Emma just make a Saving Throw in response to emotional stress to avoid going Lycan?

On one hand, good to know.  On the other hand, SHIT.
Claire Larkspur
player, 716 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 3 Sep 2020
at 04:06
  • msg #256

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I didn't know that was a thing either. Best use those metal chains if we got them U'lin!
GM
GM, 1845 posts
Thu 3 Sep 2020
at 11:20
  • msg #257

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll wait on U'lin/Zaiya and push an update tomorrow, say 15-20 hours from the time of this post.

Moira Ruadh:
Did... did Emma just make a Saving Throw in response to emotional stress to avoid going Lycan?

On one hand, good to know.  On the other hand, SHIT.



:>
GM
GM, 1850 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 07:17
  • msg #258

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright I bought Mythic Odysseys of Theros after some discussion with a friend that had it and a bit of poking from Moira, since the book has a couple of mechanics/ideas that I think mesh well with the game. (Mythic monsters and special Giants UNLOCKED bwhahahhaha)

In particular, I really like the Piety system as a framework for long-term buffs. The basic system is quite simple:

1) PCs pick a god and start with 1 Piety
2) Significant Acts that are in line with the tenets of the deity improve Piety
3) Significant Acts that are against the tenets decrease Piety
4) Quests, acts of devotion, specific events...etc can also modify Piety
5) At different checkpoints, Piety grants a particular character a blessing/boon based on their deity. This can be a magical item, a buff, a blessing or similar.
6) Checkpoints are at 3, 10, 25 and 50 (if we go above it, we'll deal with it)
7) Additional blessings, items and/or mechanics may trigger/improve based on level of Piety (a Shrine may only grant a blessing to a character with high Piety, a god's blessed weapon may only be unlocked with a certain level of piety...etc)

Originally, I intended to only use the Piety system for Moira's deal with Waukeen, which is something she and I have been discussing for a while now. Then I realised that Piety actually works pretty well as a means for tracking more abstract progression/upgrades for a given PC. As such, I'm thinking of implementing it in a more general sense to existing 'projects' each of the PCs (you guys) already have:

Moira: as discussed, the Stigmata will use the Piety system and grant Moira specific benefits as she levels and does work for the church + donates stuff to Waukeeen.

U'lin: with Gond being your deity, I think using Piety as a general progress bar for the wagon would be appropriate? U'lin gathers scrap, items, blueprints...etc for the wagon to slowly progress Piety, and at various checkpoints-slash-events we add upgrades to it. Mundane upgrades can be done in parallel, I'm thinking  more outright magical upgrades, treated as a mix of U'lins own research and blessings from Gond.

Claire: you mentioned wanting to link Glory with Find Steed. What are you thoughts on tying the Piety framwork (maybe one based more around your bond with Glory and Chauntea than just Chauntea alone) to upgrading your mount? So Glory will get more HP, powers and such as you deepen your bond with her and Chauntea.

Zaiya: rather than "Piety" it would be "Privilege" and be tied to a specific item you have, with actions that go towards increasing your user Privilege adding more features to the item (you know which one I'm talking about). We can discuss details in the PM :)

This is mostly a general outline and statement of intent. The exact details/numbers of the progression can be discussed in PM. One thing I'm trying to avoid is turning Piety into another "treasure/exp meter" that you guys feel obligated to min/max - gaining Piety should feel like a natural extension of pushing your character's interests/ideals in specific situations (maybe taking on more risk? kekekeke). I mostly want to hear your thoughts on the system and the proposed upgrade paths above. Too much to track? Too little benefit? Breaks immersion?
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:19, Fri 04 Sept 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1131 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 07:27
  • msg #259

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm down for it already (particularly since I was the one who brought it up in discussion ^^;), mostly because I feel like it works as a good way of awarding character-driven play without rewards' appearance being arbitrarily decided.  It also gives us a little more control over how quickly we might gain boons as well.  While I don't think any of us are the sort to min-max and abuse a system, there is something good to be said for there being a function that we can proactively use in order to get a power up.  Whether it actually works is ultimately up to the DM's decision, but it's something we as players can initiate all on our own.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 180 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 12:52
  • msg #260

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I very much like it.
GM
GM, 1851 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 15:49
  • msg #261

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Don't forget to confirm your shift + position?

Its the weekend, will just relax on this. But if stuff isn't decided by Sunday-ish I'll probably just make some assumptions (everyone upstairs, random shift order) to keep things moving.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1132 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 16:23
  • msg #262

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If we're talking about system stuff as well, can we please take some time aside and do a full cataloging of our Loot Thread to get it up to date with our current distribution and wealth?  Like, having a list of everything we've acquired thus far is good but some of it's outdated (items that have already been sold or consumed), and I genuinely don't know how much gold we have as a party via pick-up looting since we never really talk about how it gets distributed.

Can we do a run-down of everyone's inventories and figure out who has what and how much?
GM
GM, 1852 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 17:38
  • msg #263

Re: OOC Chat - 004

This is partly on me as the DM. I'll take a few hours tomorrow to list everything out, and we can go over loot allocation then.

Thanks for the poke on that Moira.
U'lin
player, 825 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 21:39
  • msg #264

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Totally up for the system, though I know nothing about it :)
Definitely need to spring for the book.

~
As a player, I'm a little less keen on everyone having something personal with them that improves, except U'lin's, which is a party item that we can't take with us half/more places.  That make sense?
Claire's animal bond is also impacted, though arguably a little less restricted by movement, but still impacted everytime inside buildings, tunnels, etc.  She doesn't also face the party item issue.

(Now if you asked U'lin, he would 100% be in favour of the battle wagon, and IC it makes perfect sense).

I'll have to think on this a bit more.


Position/Shift
I believe I indicated last shift for U'lin (tyk), location where he can watch Emma on his shift.  Likely atop the steps, unless he were to hear indication that the wolfbuddies were tunneling in below :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1133 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 02:07
  • msg #265

Re: OOC Chat - 004

For U'lin at least (not sure about Claire or Zaiya since I'm uncertain what their priorities are for abilities and power ups) instead of his boons being focused on the wagon specifically, maybe have them be focused on his Channel Divinity abilities or something like that?  So more his capacity for creating and modifying things (thus including the wagon into the range) at an improved rate or effectiveness?  Or higher levels of Piety giving him access to a X-times-per-day use of spells like "Fabricate" or similar magic?

Moira's current Boon structure is aimed at kind of emulating certain Warlock Invocations to give her access to magical damage.  So maybe U'lin's could mix in some Artificer class elements by giving him some ability to power up items like with Artificer Infusions?

http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer-infusions
This message was last edited by the player at 02:09, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
U'lin
player, 827 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 02:23
  • msg #266

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That's definitely more interesting, and plays into options to help the party item if we don't need the boon for more immediate things.
GM
GM, 1853 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 03:06
  • msg #267

Re: OOC Chat - 004

We can definitely discuss this further! The wagons and mounts were initially proposals, I would definitely like you guys to have more say in what you want from your character.

My main requirement is that it shouldn't feel like just "more cleric". I think improvements on his crafting abilities, extending channel div is a good route.
Maybe something like the artificer ability to craft magic items? Definitely feel free to PM me your thoughts when you are ready.

It's a nice system, and I don't want Moira to be the only one that gets nice things so to speak.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:34, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 717 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 03:29
  • msg #268

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I like this piety system!

As far as Claire is concerned, I'm all for it being tied in a major way to Glory - it'll be nice to have a mount that grows along with the character. Having a pegasusified Glory in the advanced stages of the campaign would be super cool!

Another ideas in case the mount idea can't quite pan out for whatever reason: Having the ability to help the local communities we meet along the way with some sort of agricultural or pastoral powers also strikes me as interesting without being overpowered in combat. Things like curing crops or livestock of disease would totally be up Chauntea's alley.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1134 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 03:35
  • msg #269

Re: OOC Chat - 004

A blend of combat and utility abilities would be a fun mix, yeah.
GM
GM, 1854 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 03:46
  • msg #270

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sounds like the party is in general, all for more benefits, and the devil is in the details. I'll start up a PM thread for each of you guys so we can hash out stuff - then I'm gonna grab some food and look at the treasures as a spreadsheet.

Once Zaiya and Claire confirm their sentry stuff in the IC chat I'll move that forward too.
U'lin
player, 828 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 13:30
  • msg #271

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire - you need some of your things ID'd?

Misc notes:
Love the layout and coding, DM.  Very easy to read and isolate what we need to examine as not assigned or things for me to confirm U'lin has, etc.

The icygem is in the warwagon to make an icebox/cold storage box for Moira's cullinary supplies.

I need to reread the draconic letter!  Forgot all about that again.

Were the charms and scrolls ever shown to the rest of the party?
Wasn't there some clockwork device too?
GM
GM, 1856 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 13:35
  • msg #272

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thanks for the praise! :)

U'lin:
The icygem is in the warwagon to make an icebox/cold storage box for Moira's cullinary supplies.


Updated.

U'lin:
I need to reread the draconic letter!  Forgot all about that again.


^_^

U'lin:
Were the charms and scrolls ever shown to the rest of the party?


Everyone got distracted by the Javelin, but I intended it as loot.

U'lin:
Wasn't there some clockwork device too?


If you're referring to the Amphail marketplace, I think U'lin skipped over the Clockwork Amulet. Unless its something else I missed?
U'lin
player, 829 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 15:07
  • msg #273

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
Wasn't there some clockwork device too?
If you're referring to the Amphail marketplace, I think U'lin skipped over the Clockwork Amulet. Unless its something else I missed?
As much as I love it for U'lin, a 1/day limited take 10 is a touch steep for attunement slot, let alone that we had neither the materials nor the skills to restore it :)
Without the attunement, probably would have bent for it, on the chance somewhere, somewhen down the road, that we found the rare materials and a clocksmith that could work them and preserve the magics.

This!
the shrine finds:
Rusted clockwork beetle the size of one's palm, carved with the sigil of Gond

GM
GM, 1857 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 15:18
  • msg #274

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh! It's a trinket. It's not worth anything, which is why I didn't include it. But U'lin can certainly take it if he wants!
U'lin
player, 830 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 15:20
  • msg #275

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Oh! It's a trinket. It's not worth anything, which is why I didn't include it. But U'lin can certainly take it if he wants!

For the Steel Beetle formerly known as the warwagon?  Yew betcha.  New fireside project found for downtime puttering.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1135 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 15:58
  • msg #276

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ooh, I certainly like the new spreadsheet!  That's a great idea.  Thanks for putting in all the effort to record the loot in so much detail, DM - I wasn't expecting all that!  It's very useful though; there's all sorts of stuff in that list I'd either forgotten about or didn't realize even existed in the first place.

I'm a bit surprised about notes like Moira being the one carrying the Handy Haversack + Stoor's Belongings and the Petrified Egg/Bowl.  I was always under the impression that Thente or Claire were carrying those?  Or did it just end up shuffled around so much it was eventually relegated to "in the back of Moira's wagon" at some point?

Spell Scrolls:
Everyone got distracted by the Javelin, but I intended it as loot.


I think I remember Moira being there for those scrolls at first, but they're literally unintelligible gibberish to her since she's not a caster-class.  It's impossible for her to read or use them (except maybe for the Protection scrolls?) and she wouldn't know what they were unless someone specifically told her otherwise.

Re: Money Distribution
How should we handle the party gold situation?  Just hold it all as a combined fund we all draw from with permission from the others aside from our own personal resources?  I'll need to spend a bit of time going back through the list of looted cash/sold items to double-check and make sure all my math is right for Moira's personal coin.  I've only ever altered my own funds based on coin specifically entering or leaving Moira's own hands since I don't recall us ever sitting down and distributing wealth at any point.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 182 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 16:02
  • msg #277

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm, I will say that any scroll that contains a spell Zaiya doesn't know is something she can scribe down, as long as the gold holds out.  (Divination spells are cheaper to copy at least thanks to her specialty)

She also got a 'Free' Spell from her research at the containment site, that she only can't cast yet because it's Level 4.
GM
GM, 1858 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 16:19
  • msg #278

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea the Haversack was a "back of the wagon" thing that I assigned to Moira since it was implied it was on her wagon. If you rather not claim it, I can unallocate it, or put down stuff like "Cart"

For gold, I didn't double check it with everyones expenditure because that would be 5x as much work. I've actually been assuming the gold was split evenly between PCs this entire time. Lemme add a column for division (I roughly recall the party size at each point) to make it clearer how much gold each of you guys should have (approximately).

For now, I'll trust you guys to review the "Sold (GP)" column and book-keep yourself. As is, I've been peeking at your character sheets every now and then and haven't seen anything particularly out of line so far.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1136 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 17:02
  • msg #279

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Nah, don't go putting any extra work on yourself.  We can address our own budgeting stuff, though I'm not quite sure how to address Thente's cut.  It really seems like he's not coming back, doesn't it?  Has anyone tried to get a hold of him outside the game or know a way to do so?  He was so dedicated to the story that I can't imagine him just bailing for no reason, but with the way things are out in the world right now there's a strong possibility he has no choice in being unable to contact us.

On the plus side, it looks like Doderic checked in a few days ago at the very least, so he's still poking around.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:03, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1859 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 17:08
  • msg #280

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Nah, don't go putting any extra work on yourself.  We can address our own budgeting stuff, though I'm not quite sure how to address Thente's cut.  It really seems like he's not coming back, doesn't it?  Has anyone tried to get a hold of him outside the game or know a way to do so?  He was so dedicated to the story that I can't imagine him just bailing for no reason, but with the way things are out in the world right now there's a strong possibility he has no choice in being unable to contact us.

On the plus side, it looks like Doderic checked in a few days ago at the very least, so he's still poking around.


I've done rmail, and actually tried pinging the friend he had brought in as well. The friend said they would ping Thente for us on discord, but I have yet to hear back from Thente since (this was over a month ago).

For now, I would say you guys could probably redistribute the Javelin of Lightning from Thente's character. The gold is a little trickier - my current thoughts are actually to not touch it, and handwave it as "hospital fees" in the longer run. Mostly because its a bit messy if it ever reverts back.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:08, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1137 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 18:39
  • msg #281

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'd say it's likely either U'lin or Claire have the javelin since they're STR based.  Since the Blood Dagger was in discussion a little while ago after the initial werewolf encounter, let's say Moira's got that on her person given the situation at hand.  She needs a magic weapon and the crossbow just isn't going to cut it in the long run.  She most certainly would not have Attuned to it, however, knowing that it's cursed.
GM
GM, 1861 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 18:46
  • msg #282

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sure.

Let's put Javelin on Claire for now, since she's closest to Thente :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1139 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:08
  • msg #283

Re: OOC Chat - 004

WELP.  Moira's basically a Commoner with a fair chunk of HP until she makes her saving throw.  Halfling Bravery's default Advantage with return in effect so long as she can't see the Werewolves, at least.  Have fun, y'all.

The dice are mocking me; rolling 2s and 3s when a would benefit from a Nat 1 to reroll on, and rolling a Nat 1 on a roll I can't rereoll with Halfling Luck.  >_<
This message was last edited by the player at 19:10, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1862 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:13
  • msg #284

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira don't forget to roll to save again at the end of your turn!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1140 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:19
  • msg #285

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I thought that one roll was the roll for the turn?  Is the Alarm round an actual round or just a reactionary moment since it only allowed for partial actions?  I mean, I'm not going to really twist your arm otherwise but...

Wisdom Save vs. Fear DC 12, with Halfling Bravery advantage
Moira Ruadh rolled 12 using 1d20+1
Moira Ruadh rolled 10 using 1d20+1

Meet it and beat it?
GM
GM, 1863 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:22
  • msg #286

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh the first roll was to save against the initial effect. Then you get to save again at the end of your actual turn.

And yes meet it to beat it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:23, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1141 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:24
  • msg #287

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah, okay.  My table flipping fluster lasts for just the first round alone then.  I always get confused when there's "surprise" rounds (which don't technically exist in 5e but whatever) when it comes to order of operations.
GM
GM, 1864 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:38
  • msg #288

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah sorry about that. I like to make "opening scenes" more cinematic, which can be a bit more confusing in such cases. Its not different from say, a Slow spell - you save vs the initial cast. Then at the end of your turn, you save again.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1142 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 19:41
  • msg #289

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No worries, that's on me and my own initial "Barbarian who gets mind-controlled on the first round of combat" style grumbling.  A Rogue getting a Fear effect is basically in the same level of that.  ^^;

That said, I'm super looking forward to what the Werewolves do when Moira starts stabbing them with their own magic knife.  That's gonna be a hoot.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 183 posts
HP: 26/26; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 21:03
  • msg #290

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Of course it was an audible alarm, who do you think I am, a rookie?  :P  I wasn't expecting a forceful entry but it doesn't really take any extra time or energy to be comprehensive you know.

Anything that gives us a little extra warm-up time is welcome.

EDIT:  On a related note, have we had a Long Rest at some point since arriving in town, or were we preparing for that when this all kicked off?  Need to know if I have my Level 3 spells yet or not.

EDIT THE SECOND: Also, I don't believe I've used my Arcane Recovery yet,  A bit of an oversight as it gets me both of my cast spells back!  Might be handy here methinks..>
This message was last edited by the player at 21:18, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1865 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 21:19
  • msg #291

Re: OOC Chat - 004

You did rest! This is the 2nd night in town. So all your slots are back!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 184 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 21:21
  • msg #292

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hahahahahaha.

BUENO

Shame I can't use my Level Three attack spell here, but there's plenty of mayhem I can wreak with my current toolkit!

EDIT:  By the By Claire, let me know if you're in a position to line up a Smite, I can create a Paralyzed target for you to get guaranteed crits as per the Prophecy.

I'd offer the same to Moira, but getting the autocrit requires you to be in melee...
This message was last edited by the player at 21:32, Sat 05 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1866 posts
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 21:37
  • msg #293

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea uh. The shop is pretty flammable...

Also to clarify the two werewolves to the RIGHT are at the door. The LEFT wolf is at the window. I assume Zaiya's going for the bigger pack.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 186 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 5 Sep 2020
at 23:28
  • msg #294

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In reply to GM (msg # 293):

Correct, yeah.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 187 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 10:29
  • msg #295

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Bah, of course they roll really well, ah well, I tried.
GM
GM, 1868 posts
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 10:57
  • msg #296

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Still messed them up though! The difficult terrain meant they had to spend their actions to dash instead.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 188 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 11:37
  • msg #297

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In reply to GM (msg # 296):

Oh absolutely, it's the difference between "Die of wolfwere mauling" and "Die of wolfwere mauling next turn"

Or that would be the plan but ESCAPE TACTIC is now available for the first time since starting this game :D

Though it will mean I can't set one of them up to get murdersmited by Claire...  Hrm.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:38, Sun 06 Sept 2020.
U'lin
player, 832 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 13:56
  • msg #298

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh... Zaiya went out ahead of the frontliners?
Was there a reason on that, Z?

I mean besides giving them better access to yummy unshelled snackaroos :p

That puts Zaiya out of protection range of U'lin, but I think I can still put the two werewolves back into U'lin's guardian aura.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 189 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 14:00
  • msg #299

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Oh... Zaiya went out ahead of the frontliners?
Was there a reason on that, Z?

I mean besides giving them better access to yummy unshelled snackaroos :p

That puts Zaiya out of protection range of U'lin, but I think I can still put the two werewolves back into U'lin's guardian aura.


She's not staying there if that's what you think.  I needed line of sight to web that entrance, and it functionally bought us a round before they can start attacking us.

ESCAPE TACTIC is next
This message was last edited by the player at 14:00, Sun 06 Sept 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1143 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 6 Sep 2020
at 16:21
  • msg #300

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Remember that I already rolled up my Round 1 actions in my prior post, so just continue on to Round 2 once Claire's ready.  Moira is presently guarding the hatch and reloading her crossbow.
GM
GM, 1871 posts
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 06:20
  • msg #301

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm, Claire just pointed out that the walls were not really clear in the image, which led to some confusion in movement/sight (see the combat post for details on where the wall/doors are)

After some discussion with her in PMs, I've decided to let her revert her previous motion to move to E-11, to block the obvious chokepoint.

In the future, I'll try to make it clearer where the walls and doors are on a battlemap.
Claire Larkspur
player, 721 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 06:24
  • msg #302

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That was my bad too, I should have realized that there was a wall at E-F 9-10 for the shop layout to make sense XD

At least we still got the left-side werewolf with Ulin's ghosty gang!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 190 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 09:23
  • msg #303

Re: OOC Chat - 004

He crit, yeah, but at least it was with the claw instead of the bite.  I'll keep, I'll keep.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 192 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 09:41
  • msg #304

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Behold!  ESCAPE TACTIC! In all of its glory and all of its horror!

Shank a dude with a cantrip that blows up their guts if they move, and then teleport away!
GM
GM, 1873 posts
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 09:44
  • msg #305

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Behold!  ESCAPE TACTIC! In all of its glory and all of its horror!

Shank a dude with a cantrip that blows up their guts if they move, and then teleport away!


Zaiya: I'm a glorious noble-born wizard who is the epitome of well-mannered breeding

Also Zaiya: *shanks the bitch, teleports away*
Zaiya Alvina
player, 193 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 10:07
  • msg #306

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If your tactics aren't as cruel and mean as possible, you're not really wizarding right, are you?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 194 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 10:09
  • msg #307

Re: OOC Chat - 004

BTW, I'm proactively declaring that Emma's next saving throw rolls a 19
Zaiya Alvina
player, 195 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 14:19
  • msg #308

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh, by the way Mister GM sir.

For the sake of stuff like Hold Person, the enemy doesn't get two saving throws on the first round if I go first, do they?  The one where I cast it and then a second one when their turn pops up later that round?
This message was last edited by the player at 14:20, Mon 07 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1875 posts
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 14:29
  • msg #309

Re: OOC Chat - 004

They get a save to resist when you first cast it.

Then on the end of their turn, they get another save to break it.

So yes if they go right after you, fail the first save but pass the second they might not keep the status long enough for your teammates to capitalize on it.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 196 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 14:35
  • msg #310

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That's kind of annoying, but there's nothing stopping me from delaying until after they go I suppose.

Unless Moira can do more damage with a crit sneak attack than a Smiting Claire can with a guaranteed crit?

(Plus everyone else I suppose. I can basically guarantee we slam the DALETE button on at least one of these dudes barring some really bad dice rolls at least, and I'm inclined to do it on the boss)
This message was last edited by the player at 14:36, Mon 07 Sept 2020.
U'lin
player, 836 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 17:26
  • msg #311

Re: OOC Chat - 004

A nova/burst turn certainly seems smartest upon the boss.
IC, U'lin went after blue, because he was threatening Emma and Moira, but agreed on focus fire on the boss monster.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1145 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 17:29
  • msg #312

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira's going to focus on Blue at the moment, given that he's right there on top of her and the trapdoor.  I'm pretty sure Claire can deal more burst damage with a good Smiting than Moira's variable Sneak Attack can (crits notwithstanding), so definitely prioritize Claire on that front for burning down the leader.

Now the real question here is whether Moira and U'lin can actually block the Werewolf.  It's a Medium-sized creature so it can't actually move through their hostile-occupied squares.  But there is a diagonal movement route right between them, so it becomes a question of whether it can actually squeeze through that much Difficult Terrain and AoOs to get down the hatch, or if Moira and U'lin being right there prevents the movement.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:35, Mon 07 Sept 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 722 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 18:49
  • msg #313

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Assuming the leader's AC is 12...

Rubs hands together evily
Zaiya Alvina
player, 197 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 19:30
  • msg #314

Re: OOC Chat - 004

O_o

Holy Shit

That aside...  Uh, chances are he probably is higher than AC 12.  Man though, Paladins amirite?
GM
GM, 1876 posts
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 19:57
  • msg #315

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Werewolf AC is 12.

These are slightly buffed with "potions" and have the howl ability at the start of combat, but otherwise are vanilla werewolves. The leader has more Hp but well...

Paladins amirite?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 198 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 20:11
  • msg #316

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Paladins.

Why do you think that's usually my first choice to play?  I like running the cute girls in heavy armor with big swords!

Going full out asshole wizard with Zaiya here is very much against my usual taste!
U'lin
player, 837 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 20:15
  • msg #317

Re: OOC Chat - 004

:O

... Just :O
Zaiya Alvina
player, 199 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 20:32
  • msg #318

Re: OOC Chat - 004

You're guddamn right it was a good call, I saw this coming.

What would we be looking at if I didn't invoke THE PROPHECY here?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 200 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 20:44
  • msg #319

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Okay, I'm looking at the map and it looks like the green guy hasn't moved?  But the narrative says he's gone down the hatch?  I'm trying to figure out if I've got line of sight on him or if I should try to finish off the leader or try to Hold Person on the blue one and see if we can finish the leader off with an Attack of Opportunity or something.

This would be so much easier if I took Lightning Bolt instead of Fireball, gah.  Why didn't I.

Because right now, I can probably kill the leader, and Moira's got decent odds of fucking up the blue guy with a good Sneak Attack, but if we both team up on the blue guy we could probably clinch the kill on him and then try to count on Claire to Attack of Opportunity the leader down when he breaks off.  Plus U'lin's Spirit Guardians.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:46, Mon 07 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1878 posts
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 20:47
  • msg #320

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Okay, I'm looking at the map and it looks like the green guy hasn't moved?  But the narrative says he's gone down the hatch?  I'm trying to figure out if I've got line of sight on him or if I should try to finish off the leader or try to Hold Person on the blue one and see if we can finish the leader off with an Attack of Opportunity or something.

This would be so much easier if I took Lightning Bolt instead of Fireball, gah.  Why didn't I.


My bad- I didn't update the link. It should be correct now.

To clarify, Werewolf-Green is down the hatch. This means to attack him, you need to climb down. So Zaiya wouldn't have had line of sight anyway, since its on a different floor. Actually Zaiya doesn't have line of sight to any of the werewolves, since she's in the main room and there's a wall in the way. She'll need to be at H-11 to see anything.

Moira would have gotten an AoO except she's using a crossbow atm I believe.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 201 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 20:50
  • msg #321

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Zaiya Alvina:
Okay, I'm looking at the map and it looks like the green guy hasn't moved?  But the narrative says he's gone down the hatch?  I'm trying to figure out if I've got line of sight on him or if I should try to finish off the leader or try to Hold Person on the blue one and see if we can finish the leader off with an Attack of Opportunity or something.

This would be so much easier if I took Lightning Bolt instead of Fireball, gah.  Why didn't I.


My bad- I didn't update the link. It should be correct now.

To clarify, Werewolf-Green is down the hatch. This means to attack him, you need to climb down. So Zaiya wouldn't have had line of sight anyway, since its on a different floor. Actually Zaiya doesn't have line of sight to any of the werewolves, since she's in the main room and there's a wall in the way. She'll need to be at H-11 to see anything.

Moira would have gotten an AoO except she's using a crossbow atm I believe.


I'm planning on moving of course :P

Anyway, thanks for clearing it all up.  I'll pop the boss then and see if Moira can pop blue guy and that should clear things up for U'lin and Claire to chase green guy.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 203 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 21:01
  • msg #322

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well, I Hope It really was 'Near dead' and one last little push was enough, but 4 damage rolled is really sucky.
Claire Larkspur
player, 724 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 21:12
  • msg #323

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I knew I should have power attacked on the second strike too, but I was too cautious it seems. :P

If we really need to make blue or green disappear, Claire could probably tank an AOO from red, dash down and end whoever U'lin and Moira don't get. Always an option!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 204 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 21:22
  • msg #324

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
I knew I should have power attacked on the second strike too, but I was too cautious it seems. :P

If we really need to make blue or green disappear, Claire could probably tank an AOO from red, dash down and end whoever U'lin and Moira don't get. Always an option!


Well, the real problem is that red and blue go before you guys do, I don't know if Spirit Guardians activates before they get to attack though?

Moira can probably cherry tap Red if he's not dead, and if he is (Either from my cherry tap or from Spirit Guardians), she can probably mess up Blue and clear it for you guys to move, but yikes!
This message was last edited by the player at 21:23, Mon 07 Sept 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1147 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 22:56
  • msg #325

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Man, pally's gonna pally.  o_o

Given the situation at hand, Moira's priority is on making sure Emma stays safe as best she can, so she's down after Green.  Might take an Opportunity Attack from Blue if that one is aware enough to try, but there we are.  Characterization beats out effective strategy every time.  ^^;  But hey, she's got magic now, so at least she's on somewhat even footing.  :3
This message was last edited by the player at 23:00, Mon 07 Sept 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 205 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 23:06
  • msg #326

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh very nice Moira!  He's already taken a beating so that's probably going to push him the rest of the way over!

Boss is probably going to eat an Opportunity Attack and die no matter what he does unless we roll really badly, and I think the blue one is going to be in the same boat against you.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:07, Mon 07 Sept 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1148 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 23:12
  • msg #327

Re: OOC Chat - 004

There's a lot of rough terrain, limited movement options, and ambient damage floating around topside for Red and Blue to contend with before the round is over.  Hopefully that'll keep them from getting any further in the meantime.  Green probably can't one-shot Moira thanks to Uncanny Dodge, so I think we'll be okay for the rest of the round at least.  It's just a matter of keeping Emma safe, 'cause that Restrained Condition ain't helpful here.
Claire Larkspur
player, 726 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 7 Sep 2020
at 23:28
  • msg #328

Re: OOC Chat - 004

SORRY I MISSED D:
Zaiya Alvina
player, 207 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 00:09
  • msg #329

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Huzzah!  The insanely heat seeking nature of the werewolves was ultimately their undoing!  We even kept our charge from getting hurt!

Now to figure out why they were insanely heat seeing werewolves...
This message was last edited by the player at 00:10, Tue 08 Sept 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1150 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 00:10
  • msg #330

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well, that was by far one of our most cinematic battles to date. :3
Zaiya Alvina
player, 208 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 00:10
  • msg #331

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Well, that was by far one of our most cinematic battles to date. :3


It was, wasn't it?  That was crazy and right down to the bloody wire!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1152 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 00:22
  • msg #332

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Plus, technically speaking, Moira killed two Werewolves!  :3

...if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go cry in a corner for a while now.
GM
GM, 1882 posts
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 04:16
  • msg #333

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hope you guys enjoyed that fight.

Just wrapping up the scenario, and we can push on again. I admit it got a bit more fleshed-out than I was intending - some NPCs/scenarios just take on a life of their own when encountering PCs, y'know?

Also, I would like to check that the use of crude language and insults in the most recent post is not too offensive for folks. It felt like what the villagers would say, given the scenario, but I understand if it makes people uncomfortable. PM me if there are issues- I will want to know now so I can adjust my writing style in the future. Like IRL, as a DM I wish for all my players to be comfortable 'at the table'.
U'lin
player, 840 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 15:33
  • msg #334

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Hope you guys enjoyed that fight.

Indeed so!

GM:
Also, I would like to check that the use of crude language and insults in the most recent post is not too offensive for folks
Fine here, though I certainly wouldn't want it even most of the time.  I deal with enough super negativity and profanity that it's not "fun" to deal with in game.  Seasoning here and there is quite fine, however.

GM:
U'lin, since you are bending the truth a little here...Deception check AND a Persuasion check.
If U'lin believes this to be the case though, just persuasion?
Emma tries to help people with her craft, studies to improve it, and was prepared to imprison herself and potentially starve to death to protect the populace - though there might be other reasons why the werewolves are here, the only answer in U'lin's mind is that they were trying to stop Emma, so clearly it must be related to her studies.

GM:
Anyone else who wants to add to what our Firbolg friend is saying, please go ahead.
PLEASE!  Please do!  This deliberate ignorance and turning on good ppl may be a touchy point for U'lin with being kicked from his firbolg tribe, and people prepared to turn on "the different", but we'd much rather walk out of this in good circles rather than ahead of pitchforks :p

Moira:
Plus, technically speaking, Moira killed two Werewolves!  :3
"Moira, Slayer of Werewolves" ... I like it.
U'lin
player, 841 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 15:40
  • msg #335

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, how do you feel about Speak with Dead?
I've played in campaigns were DMs were cool with the spell, and others that hated it.

If we're sticking for another day to Remove Curse, U'lin could just as easily ready a little interrogation/investigation from beyond :)

"Okay.  So his favourite colour is green, and he had four children, he used to be a tanner for the group, he hadn't found a true love - but I think he was falling for the lady there, and the werewolf army have corrupted the giant golem, and are unleashing it against the giants and any towns in the way.

... "Perhaps I should have led with that."
GM
GM, 1885 posts
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 15:43
  • msg #336

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I was hoping you would remembering that spell :)

Yes you can prep it alongside the remove curse, no problems.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1154 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 16:28
  • msg #337

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
"Moira, Slayer of Werewolves" ... I like it.


"Where is the mighty monster slayer?"

"I think she's over there stress-vomiting in a corner... that's an impressive volume for such a small woman."

:3

U'lin:
in U'lin's mind is that they were trying to stop Emma, so clearly it must be related to her studies.


Except that U'lin is additionally aware of a big bite-mark shaped possibility as to why the Werewolves would've come for her and he's intentionally using other lesser potential motivations/assumptions to obscure that.  Obfuscation is deception.

@DM
Is there any chance we make this a group skill check for a divide-and-conquer effort with this current angry mob social challenge?  Since it's a group of people with different attitudes/responsibilities/motivations from one another rather than a unified force?

So (assuming Zaiya is focusing on Arcana stuff and not making CHA checks), Claire and Moira can reduce the DC of U'lin's overall Deception+Persuasion check by convincing pockets of the crowd they appeal to (Chauntean farmers, Waukeenar merchants, such)?  Moira is currently keeping out of things because she doesn't want to get the Longstockings caught up in anything by proxy of her being there, but will come up and contribute if there's cause to do so.
GM
GM, 1886 posts
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 16:42
  • msg #338

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Except that U'lin is additionally aware of a big bite-mark shaped possibility as to why the Werewolves would've come for her and he's intentionally using other lesser potential motivations/assumptions to obscure that.  Obfuscation is deception.


This. Emma was working on a cure for herself- the entire part about going into the woods for intelligence, and the wolves coming to kill her because she poses a threat is entirely conjecture.

Deception checks cover lying to yourself as well as to others :P

Moira Ruadh:
@DM
Is there any chance we make this a group skill check for a divide-and-conquer effort with this current angry mob social challenge?  Since it's a group of people with different attitudes/responsibilities/motivations from one another rather than a unified force?

So (assuming Zaiya is focusing on Arcana stuff and not making CHA checks), Claire and Moira can reduce the DC of U'lin's overall Deception+Persuasion check by convincing pockets of the crowd they appeal to (Chauntean farmers, Waukeenar merchants, such)?  Moira is currently keeping out of things because she doesn't want to get the Longstockings caught up in anything by proxy of her being there, but will come up and contribute if there's cause to do so.


This is exactly my intention. I will be taking everyone's arguments and checks as a group. I'm not sure if I've made it clear, but I try very hard not to run social encounters as straight dice rolls. Skill checks are mostly a way to decide the degree of the response (e.g. if you make a good argument but roll poorly for persuasiveness, you'll get lukewarm response but perhaps more chances to make your case. If you make a poor argument but have a good persuasion you may get some success, but not necessarily in the way you want.)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1155 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 16:45
  • msg #339

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I figured that was the case, but always want to verify such things.  Should I wait for you to post a response to Claire's first wave of influence and effect before having Moira pop in?
GM
GM, 1887 posts
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 16:55
  • msg #340

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In the interests of moving things forward, I will be rolling Persuasion and Deception on the behalf of U'lin this round. Then write up a response accordingly. Apologies - I usually prefer PCs to roll their own checks, especially in situations like this.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1158 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 18:15
  • msg #341

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Updated my post with roll results.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 210 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 8 Sep 2020
at 19:54
  • msg #342

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Welp, back to work--of course, now I feel my anxiety spiking hard based on a couple changes I heard of.  Hopefully they shouldn't impact me but reason doesn't usually do much in the favor of head-problems.

Still, fun fun :(
U'lin
player, 842 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 9 Sep 2020
at 00:36
  • msg #343

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira:
Except that U'lin is additionally aware of a big bite-mark shaped possibility as to why the Werewolves would've come for her and he's intentionally using other lesser potential motivations/assumptions to obscure that.  Obfuscation is deception.
DM:
This. Emma was working on a cure for herself- the entire part about going into the woods for intelligence, and the wolves coming to kill her because she poses a threat is entirely conjecture.
I think I read this differently.  I didn't see a tie that person is bitten, so werewolves will hunt her down, invading a town to do... something?

Exploring for research, bitten, turning into werewolf, so trying to do what she can to remove it or make herself not a danger to anyone, and researching how to stop the danger.


If it should have been obvious that people bitten get tracked down, U'lin wouldn't have phrased for deception.  Perhaps overly altruistic in his perception/attribution, but not deception.  He would have gone more as her being a victim.  Might not have made a difference to the description of results, but it certainly does to how U'lin acts and portrays himself.
GM
GM, 1891 posts
Wed 9 Sep 2020
at 00:59
  • msg #344

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
I think I read this differently.  I didn't see a tie that person is bitten, so werewolves will hunt her down, invading a town to do... something?


Yup, this is intentional. The werewolves' motivation is not known. You haven't actually cast speak with dead yet, so U'lin would not know the actual reason.

The party also never really asked for details on what Emma was doing in the woods in the first place. Understandable, given her condition, but it does mean no one actually knows what she was working on prior to getting bitten.

U'lin:
If it should have been obvious that people bitten get tracked down, U'lin wouldn't have phrased for deception.  portrays himself.


The deception check here isn't meant to be "U'lin is actively trying to lie" its "U'lin doesn't actually know the reason but is talking like he is". The original post read to me like U'lin was trying to mislead the villagers by creating a story about how Emma has something the werewolves want, which was never confirmed. If you would have rather rephrased to avoid giving a deception check, I am okay with you changing your speech (I will also adjust the village'rs response) but the current outcome will be about the same.

I do request you keep "FOOLISH ONES" though. That line is great.
U'lin
player, 843 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 9 Sep 2020
at 02:18
  • msg #345

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh absolutely.

I adjusted the speech, but tried to keep the push of the speech, and the bit of lecture tone :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1162 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 9 Sep 2020
at 19:00
  • msg #346

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So just to make sure we're all on the same page going forward (literally as Moira is writing military reports for the Triboar and Westbridge authorities), what are we going to say?  I'm personally inclined to go for the full and naked truth while making sure to express Emma's state of forced desperation as part of her defense.  It'll be hard to fairly blame her for her secrecy when she clearly had nobody in town she could turn to for help, especially when she immediately leaped to recruit those who could help (the party) when the opportunity arose.  She was doing the best she could in an awful situation.

@DM - On anything Emma might want to add to the reports in her defense?  Moira would implore her to explain what she would've done had she been unable to figure out a cure.  Flee the town, suicide before she could fully turn...?
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 19:00, Wed 09 Sept 2020.
U'lin
player, 844 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 01:53
  • msg #347

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Exactly so.
Townsfolk throwing rocks at her, abuse and profanity.
Guards refusing to step in because of direction from above.
Didn't have anyone, so was building a prison to keep herself confined, while she kept trying to find a cure.
Having to reach out to outsiders, did so when help arrived.
U'lin
player, 845 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 02:02
  • msg #348

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Let's talk the Magic 5 Questions (potentially 10):

Some may change depending upon Emma's story, for sure.


What is U'lin asking of the dead big werewolf?
Claire Larkspur
player, 730 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 04:11
  • msg #349

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Agreed on the reports. It's probably best, and in most in character, to play it straight here!

I'm sure the guardsmen would be interested in the werewolf interrogation too. Why not invite the captain along?
U'lin
player, 847 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 04:32
  • msg #350

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
Agreed on the reports. It's probably best, and in most in character, to play it straight here!

I'm sure the guardsmen would be interested in the werewolf interrogation too. Why not invite the captain along?
That was why I wanted to talk with Emma first, so we knew the why she was there, and what she saw.   But yes.

Not only does finding Emma's story give us a head's up if there is problem, we can also extend that across to the Captain (ok, ok, Moira does this :p) so s/he isn't blind-sided, and can look the professional - always good to grease the command wheels.
GM
GM, 1897 posts
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 05:20
  • msg #351

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Just wanted to note that the information you provide the Captain will influence how things develop in the town with Emma. However the biggest factor is the outcome of the ritual, so I'm holding off that part until those two are resolved.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 212 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 17:25
  • msg #352

Re: OOC Chat - 004

A new day means new Portent dice!

Which both came up 15 so that considerably simplifies where this is going!
This message was last edited by the player at 17:31, Thu 10 Sept 2020.
U'lin
player, 848 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 17:42
  • msg #353

Re: OOC Chat - 004

indeed it does, Z, tyk!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1163 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 17:53
  • msg #354

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Y'know, those "Look at me; I'm the Dungeon Master now" divination wizard memes are starting to make a lot of sense now. :3
U'lin
player, 849 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 18:11
  • msg #355

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Y'know, those "Look at me; I'm the Dungeon Master now" divination wizard memes are starting to make a lot of sense now. :3

I know, right?
GM
GM, 1898 posts
Thu 10 Sep 2020
at 23:21
  • msg #356

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Y'know, those "Look at me; I'm the Dungeon Master now" divination wizard memes are starting to make a lot of sense now. :3


:<

U'lin:
OOC: Good thing, Zaiya.
Dicetbot was not friendly.

15:50, Today: U'lin rolled 6,10,4 using d20+4,d20+4,d4.  Wis chk.
Even with advantage, that's 14.
Drat, drat, drat.  Horrible rolls on the bigdice.

U'lin, you had *one things* to do...


>:D

Updates in an hour or so once I finish this meeting.
Claire Larkspur
player, 731 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 11 Sep 2020
at 00:08
  • msg #357

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Won't have time for a full post before then, but Claire will opt to stay with the party instead of helping out at the healers' tents. I'd like to get my long rest!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1164 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 11 Sep 2020
at 00:29
  • msg #358

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alas, we're all helpless before the dice.  >_<
GM
GM, 1900 posts
Fri 11 Sep 2020
at 04:54
  • msg #359

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Apologies for the delay, meeting took longer than expected and then I forgot :<
Moira Ruadh
player, 1165 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 11 Sep 2020
at 05:42
  • msg #360

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
In meta-terms, she has been transformed into a Shifter, as per the Eberron race.


I mean, stat-wise this is a big upgrade for a NPC.  Socially... eh... depends on whether the bestial traits are the new default for her or something that is used per Rest like the standard rules list and she turns back to her normal appearance after.  Either way, miiiiiiiiight be the time to suggest a relocation for Emma.  Maybe moving to another less bias town?

GM:
Also, the Wolf Dagger has been destroyed.


Dang it... I actually had plans for that thing.  ^^;
This message was last edited by the player at 05:43, Fri 11 Sept 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 214 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 11 Sep 2020
at 10:52
  • msg #361

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hah, figures.  At least the two previous successes made this mostly a successful exorcism.

Mostly.

Zaiya: "YOU HAD ONE JOB CLERIC!"
Moira Ruadh
player, 1168 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 12 Sep 2020
at 05:33
  • msg #362

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@U'lin
Let me know if you want me to try a Persuasion check (with Advantage, if someone Helps maybe?) to cool the Captain's jets if you don't want to surrender any/as many questions to him.

@DM
If Emma is interested in relocation, are there any of Moira's connections that could be useful to call on here?  Either given her merchant past or her Background Feature?  Or is this something SEER might be willing to lend a hand on as well?
GM
GM, 1902 posts
Sat 12 Sep 2020
at 06:20
  • msg #363

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
@DM
If Emma is interested in relocation, are there any of Moira's connections that could be useful to call on here?  Either given her merchant past or her Background Feature?  Or is this something SEER might be willing to lend a hand on as well?


I'm leaving this open ended. SEER could certainly help. You may take some liberties with connections for Moira as well.

Emma has her own connections (she does have someone funding her research in Silverymoon, and some friends/family in Everlund, but does not seem too comfortable with going to them.)
U'lin
player, 853 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 13 Sep 2020
at 22:00
  • msg #364

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No response by Emma to U'lin's Gondish medallion offer?
GM
GM, 1904 posts
Mon 14 Sep 2020
at 04:52
  • msg #365

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
No response by Emma to U'lin's Gondish medallion offer?


Ah, my bad! Emma does like the medallion. Edited the original post a little.
GM
GM, 1905 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 02:28
  • msg #366

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Let's talk the Magic 5 Questions (potentially 10):

Some may change depending upon Emma's story, for sure.


What is U'lin asking of the dead big werewolf?


Hm U'lin I think you're the lead here. Since the rest of the party does not seem to have much opinion, do you want to open with the first question? I'm fine letting you guys decide the next ones as we go along
U'lin
player, 854 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 03:48
  • msg #367

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, guess so.

I had hoped for some input in/out of character, but I'll throw up a query.
I expect there's a better-than-average chance we may need to build off something we receive.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1169 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 03:59
  • msg #368

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I've basically got a whole lot of nothin' for the questions, I'm afraid.  A big part of it is because while the contacted spirit can't take in any new information, it can recognize us as enemies.

U'lin - Firbolg can magically disguise themselves, can't they?  Could you turn yourself to look like one of the other Werewolves, Uthgardt, or maybe that Boss Lady Werewolf we've encountered a few times already?  That might make the spirit more conversational.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:59, Tue 15 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1906 posts
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 04:08
  • msg #369

Re: OOC Chat - 004

A magical disguise would work, but I'll need a Deception check for it.
U'lin
player, 856 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 15 Sep 2020
at 04:46
  • msg #370

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin - Firbolg can magically disguise themselves, can't they?  Could you turn yourself to look like one of the other Werewolves, Uthgardt, or maybe that Boss Lady Werewolf we've encountered a few times already?  That might make the spirit more conversational.</quote>

Indeedie.

Though it makes sense ooc, I don't think U'lin would try to deceive or prevaricate to gain knowledge... it feels too much like tainting the gift.  I think he would try to work on common goals/interests - in keeping with his traits about the common good of gifts like crafting and Gondish blessings.

Perhaps as he learns more about it, becomes more worldly, he could parse it better, but I'm going to give up the gold for a more earnest silver :)
U'lin
player, 857 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 16 Sep 2020
at 04:06
  • msg #371

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Anyone with important or semi-important questions?

U'lin's last question is more a little curiosity about the crafter of his hammer, to help with finding more about it.
If there is something we need to know, that would have priority.
- hmm.. I suppose we could Yorick the chap? :p
GM
GM, 1908 posts
Wed 16 Sep 2020
at 15:05
  • msg #372

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hm, we seem to be losing pacing - U'lin, lets wrap up the questions and we can move on to the road then.

Do you want to rephrase your original question? Since all the Uthgardt you've encountered so far and in the vision have gray tattoos.

Does the party have anything else they want to do in Westbridge? Else, I'll wrap up the scene and we can move back onto the journey.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1170 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 16 Sep 2020
at 19:10
  • msg #373

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No arguments here.

As most Moira would want to say some goodbyes to her family and be impressed/thankful that U'lin fixed her wagon, but the latter can wait to be expressed for an on-the-road post in the next thread.
Claire Larkspur
player, 733 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 16 Sep 2020
at 20:57
  • msg #374

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Nothing from me either. Under different circumstances, Claire might have bought more stuff in the market, but it feels like they'd just want to get out of town quickly and without fuss.
GM
GM, 1911 posts
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 02:00
  • msg #375

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Loot thread has been updated.

Do tell me who is carrying what for unassigned things :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1171 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 02:12
  • msg #376

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Re: Things to Do; Moira would like to ask either Zaiya or Emma (whomever has "Identify" handy) to take a look at her new magic hands.  Even she figures it'll be something better suited for the Waukeenar priesthood to tell her more about, but she'd like a little more understanding if possible.  That can wait until we're on the road though, for the sake of keeping things moving.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:12, Thu 17 Sept 2020.
U'lin
player, 860 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 02:39
  • msg #377

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin will buy a utility belt - er potion belt.  Wrap and put into his backpack.
Potion of Waterbreathing x1
Healing Potion x1
Antitoxin x1
Oil of Slipperiness x1 (for forge work, unless someone wants it fer realz)
Dust of Dryness x1 packets for Iron Beetle fire suppressant.


U'lin gave Emma one of his holy symbols in previous post.
He will definitely work with her to learn about her recipes and work, if only to provide Claire some more recipes for her work too :)

In town, scrap metal or broken metal items that U'lin can purchase/scavenge for supplies (after consolidating it in travel form, or repairing :) )
Zaiya Alvina
player, 216 posts
HP: 22/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 17 Sep 2020
at 19:20
  • msg #378

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Not much Zaiya wants in a small town like this, she might spend some time scribing one of our Scrolls into her spellbook though if we've got any that have spells she doesn't know.
GM
GM, 1914 posts
Sat 19 Sep 2020
at 11:09
  • msg #379

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I figured this would be a good time for Moira to bring up matters with Zaiya, or perhaps for them to ask Emma some questions. We can always do this semi-OOC instead, if needed.

If no one feels like adding much, I'll push things forward tomorrow (~18 hours from now)!
GM
GM, 1915 posts
Sat 19 Sep 2020
at 16:03
  • msg #380

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So! Tasha's Cauldron of Everything is Coming out and I'm looking at getting the book. Anyone else excited for it? There's some interesting rulesets, feats and most notable - the flexible ability scores for races. If I do enable it as a book for this campaign, who here would want to use that ruleset and why? Any particular subclasses or content people want from it?

Besides that well, how's everyone doing? Anyone participating in the DnD Celebration 2020? I'm playing in a One-Shot tomorrow with a bunch of friends as a 6-man All-Kobold party :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 1172 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 19 Sep 2020
at 17:38
  • msg #381

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm 500% going to pick up Cauldron.  I've been super eager for another Guide/Tome-tier expansion to the core content.  I was willing to sit on getting the Theros book so long as I could find someone else who had access to it for the Piety system reference, but Cauldron is going right into my collection as soon as possible.

As for adding things, that depends on what it introduces.  Not sure about revising our characters to involve the lineage system for a stat rework, though new abilities from a hitherto unaddressed heritage does fit our theme so far, admittedly.  Depends on how drastic it is, I think - someone like Moira likely wouldn't see much use from it since she's so specialized into a single core melee and specific skill function to begin with.  Can't speak for everyone else though.

But, like, feats and magic items and new spells?  Oh yeah.  :3

GM:
Anyone participating in the DnD Celebration 2020?


The what now?

GM:
6-man All-Kobold party


Aaaaand I'm officially jealous.  I love gimmick one-shot games and playing as monster races is always a blast since it really lets players cut loose with wild personalities and crazy antics.  It's like "Here, just be a creature of pure Id for a night" and see what happens.  I took part in an all-Kobold Pathfinder game a while back and it was non-stop hilarity.  Or every now and then I'll run a script-flip version of "Lost Mines of Phandelver" where I let the players play as the Cragmaw Goblin (and Hobgoblin, and Bugbear) tribe or the Redbrand Brigands (and spare Nothic) depending on what part of the story they're in, while I run the Heroic PC Party as their enemies.  Even better if they'd already played the module straight and I can just use their actual characters from the first run as the NPC enemies.
U'lin
player, 861 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 19 Sep 2020
at 20:58
  • msg #382

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Our old table had run the high fantasy/heroics as main group.  A couple were pushing for evil camp, so DM did similarly - had the evil group do the expected slaughter for advantage in a one-shot.

Party returns to regular game to find their families brutally murdered, the churches that had been built up razed, the lands salted, wells poisoned... the campaign world shattered at their own hands.

Each of the players described versions of hearing a pin drop as the reveal happened.

Agreed on Cauldron purchase.
I ended biting on the new books for reading pleasure/character options.
GM
GM, 1916 posts
Sun 20 Sep 2020
at 02:55
  • msg #383

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
GM:
Anyone participating in the DnD Celebration 2020?


The what now?


https://dnd.wizards.com/dndcelebration

https://dndcelebration2020.com/#/

Weekend online events celebrating the Release of Rime of the Frostmaiden! There's some fun puzzles/easter eggs hidden on the site!

Its an interesting adventure. Haven't looked at it yet, but I love the premise. Friend's getting it, might ask them to check for giant lore :)

GM:
6-man All-Kobold party


Its going great! We went fishing and built a monstrosity of a fishing trap out of a Hunting Trap, a Waterskin and a crossbow bolt for luck. Then the kobold bard sung the mating call of fish with some help from the druid to try and get the biggest trout. And then we abandoned all of it to steal fish from other people instead.

U'lin:
Each of the players described versions of hearing a pin drop as the reveal happened.


That is an amazing twist. I can feel the knife twist.



Updating in another 2 hours or so, once my one-shot is over. Will respond to U'lin, then move events a little ;)
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:07, Sun 20 Sept 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 218 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 21 Sep 2020
at 18:30
  • msg #384

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Not really an option for me, I'm still working for the next two nights before my rotation ends, but I'll probably pick up Cauldron at some point.
GM
GM, 1919 posts
Tue 22 Sep 2020
at 10:10
  • msg #385

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Not really an option for me, I'm still working for the next two nights before my rotation ends, but I'll probably pick up Cauldron at some point.


Ah, sorry to hear that.

Glad that people are excited about Tasha's. I'm really digging the alt-art cover for one.

Does anyone wish to respond to the approaching sonds? Else, I'll push things forward again sometime tomorrow.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 219 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 24 Sep 2020
at 19:37
  • msg #386

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Back from work, and with three weeks off going forward!  Time to be productive!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1177 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 05:35
  • msg #387

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Anyone else getting some major Baba Yaga vibes here?
U'lin
player, 867 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 05:49
  • msg #388

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh the wiggled out is hi

No way we are going to ten towns for dm to do whole horror campaign :)
GM
GM, 1924 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 07:12
  • msg #389

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Anyone else getting some major Baba Yaga vibes here?


:)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1179 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 07:25
  • msg #390

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Doesn't that new "Rime of the Frost Maiden" story they just put out take place up in the Ten Towns area?

Mama Gretchen:
Mama Gretchen peddles medicines yes, but knowledge too is a trade.


[META KNOWLEDGE WARNING KLAXONS INTENSIFY]
This message was last edited by the player at 07:27, Fri 25 Sept 2020.
U'lin
player, 868 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 14:27
  • msg #391

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Doesn't that new "Rime of the Frost Maiden" story they just put out take place up in the Ten Towns area?
That is the reference indeed.

Moira Ruadh:
[META KNOWLEDGE WARNING KLAXONS INTENSIFY]
Yeah, this is straining my "avoid metaing" ability.
U'lin
player, 870 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 15:32
  • msg #392

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Not that it should matter, since surely the crone will apologize, and we'll all have a lovely tea and crumpets vignette, but is this same day as the speaking w/ dead/curse removal, or does U'lin have any 3rd level spells until we hit Triboar?
GM
GM, 1927 posts
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 16:20
  • msg #393

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Same day unfortunately, since I think you guys left the same afternoon, and you won't get a long rest till you reach Triboar.

Don't worry it won't be a fight. I think :D
Claire Larkspur
player, 737 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 25 Sep 2020
at 18:16
  • msg #394

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Against the wisdom of the meta-knowledge, Claire has taken the bait! :D
GM
GM, 1931 posts
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 03:12
  • msg #395

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Made a slight wording change in the little chant at the end, do check it before responding (U'lin, Claire)
U'lin
player, 872 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 03:15
  • msg #396

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM
GM, 1932 posts
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 03:31
  • msg #397

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh
player, 1182 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 06:20
  • msg #398

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So, who wants to go see what's in the cup?  Moira's got "Uncanny Dodge" now, so that's an option.  :3  Otherwise I'd be inclined to just leave the cup untouched, pack up the wagons right now, and make tracks for Triboar all through the night.  Moira's got Yerba Root; she can handle risking a level of Exhaustion so long as we have a day to rest and recover in Triboar.
GM
GM, 1933 posts
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 08:51
  • msg #399

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Soooo Zaiya you taking the cup? :D
Zaiya Alvina
player, 221 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 09:04
  • msg #400

Re: OOC Chat - 004

She's debating whether she should or not, based on the hints it seems like it's probably going to set whoever picks it up on fire and then have a false accusation set on them.

Which, given how she's fire resistant, probably makes her the best choice.
GM
GM, 1934 posts
Sat 26 Sep 2020
at 12:42
  • msg #401

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hm, looks like I may have been too successful at the creepiness...

Hope you like the little poem, at least xD
GM
GM, 1935 posts
Mon 28 Sep 2020
at 02:32
  • msg #402

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
So, who wants to go see what's in the cup?  Moira's got "Uncanny Dodge" now, so that's an option.  :3  Otherwise I'd be inclined to just leave the cup untouched, pack up the wagons right now, and make tracks for Triboar all through the night.  Moira's got Yerba Root; she can handle risking a level of Exhaustion so long as we have a day to rest and recover in Triboar.


So. Should I assume this then guys? D:
Zaiya Alvina
player, 222 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 28 Sep 2020
at 02:40
  • msg #403

Re: OOC Chat - 004

... Fuck it, I'll do it live!  Editing my post.
GM
GM, 1938 posts
Tue 29 Sep 2020
at 11:39
  • msg #404

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Apologies for the slow down, got caught up with some stuff over the weekend.

Hope you guys liked the hagnice old lady who stopped for some tea.

Moira: are you ditching the mug as well?

If anyone has anything else they want to do before I move the scene forward (scout the area, pray to the gods, eat the bean...etc), do post within the next 12-15 hours. I'll strive to update around then.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 224 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 29 Sep 2020
at 16:50
  • msg #405

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya'll definitely try to figure out what the bean does before she does anything with it.  Identify magic and magical science go!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1184 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 29 Sep 2020
at 20:12
  • msg #406

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira isn't going to touch anything that had to do with the Hag.  Like, if she has no choice, she'll pluck the mug up by the handle on the tip of her sword and hold it at double-arm's length the whole time so she can wing it away into the rocks to never be seen again.

So if anyone else wants a slightly-used mug instead, help yourselves.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:13, Tue 29 Sept 2020.
GM
GM, 1941 posts
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 01:13
  • msg #407

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira, Claire, Zaiya? Anyone else following U'lin? Or stopping him.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the GM at 01:59, Thu 01 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 874 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 01:19
  • msg #408

Re: OOC Chat - 004

He's just the healer - they're disposable.
Claire Larkspur
player, 740 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 1 Oct 2020
at 02:39
  • msg #409

Re: OOC Chat - 004

We could send in both the healers. What could go wrong? :)
Zaiya Alvina
player, 225 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 2 Oct 2020
at 03:07
  • msg #410

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Going to let others take the lead at least until saturday, because I'm currently in a bit of an RL crisis that I need to hopefully work something out for soon.

(The crisis is that my landlord decided he wants his basement for himself again and now I need to find a nice, new place to live)
GM
GM, 1945 posts
Fri 2 Oct 2020
at 04:37
  • msg #411

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Going to let others take the lead at least until saturday, because I'm currently in a bit of an RL crisis that I need to hopefully work something out for soon.

(The crisis is that my landlord decided he wants his basement for himself again and now I need to find a nice, new place to live)


Oh shit, that really sucks. Thanks for the headsup Zaiya - do let us know if you more time here. Eviction is not a small matter :<
Zaiya Alvina
player, 226 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 2 Oct 2020
at 06:17
  • msg #412

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I've got the money for it, it's just...  I really did not need this on top of everything else, you know?
U'lin
player, 879 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 3 Oct 2020
at 14:43
  • msg #413

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Vote for road
Body goes on Moira's wagon, so shouldn't be cramped in the Iron Beetle.
GM
GM, 1949 posts
Sat 3 Oct 2020
at 16:50
  • msg #414

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiyas busy- what about Moira/Claire? Any questions about the parchment before we move on?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1190 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 3 Oct 2020
at 20:49
  • msg #415

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira has some assumptions as to what it might say based on context, but lacking any real translation it's sort of a moot point.  She's also way too tired to focus that much brainpower on one thing at the moment, so back on the road we go!

Oh, though I imagine we'll pat down the scout's body for anything else he might've been carrying that could provide relevant information as part of bundling him for transport.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:50, Sat 03 Oct 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 743 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 3 Oct 2020
at 21:36
  • msg #416

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No particular questions about the parchment, since Claire doesn't even have proficiency with the script. Back to the road!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1191 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 05:50
  • msg #417

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Do we want to push on through the night to Triboar?  Moira's pretty much stress-wired at this point and is willing to risk another level of Exhaustion to make it to their destination.  Because of how safety is required for rests in this game, she literally can't recover from her current level of Exhaustion anywhere other than town anyway.
This message was last updated by the player at 05:52, Sun 04 Oct 2020.
GM
GM, 1951 posts
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 06:05
  • msg #418

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Do we want to push on through the night to Triboar?  Moira's pretty much stress-wired at this point and is willing to risk another level of Exhaustion to make it to their destination.  Because of how safety is required for rests in this game, she literally can't recover from her current level of Exhaustion anywhere other than town anyway.


Note that only the driver and anyone else horse-riding/keeping a look out would need that check - Moira can swap out with someone if necessary. The horses are pretty well-trained so additional checks aren't required unless the party wants to force the horses to double-time or similar (or avoid panicking...etc)
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:07, Sun 04 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1192 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 06:33
  • msg #419

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Note that only the driver and anyone else horse-riding/keeping a look out would need that check - Moira can swap out with someone if necessary. The horses are pretty well-trained so additional checks aren't required unless the party wants to force the horses to double-time or similar (or avoid panicking...etc)


Mechanically unnecessary, so long as nothing happens in the middle of the night ride that would require Moira to make an Animal Handling check (which would be at Disadvantage from the Exhaustion).  In terms of in-character motivations, Moira's too spooked by the possibility of the Hag still being out there, and now Orcs roaming around killing scouts.  As far as she figures, if the killing was recent enough for there still to be fresh blood at the scene, then the Orcs really can't be all that far away.  Even if someone did relieve her of duty as driver, she's not going to be able to get any rest outside of city walls short of medicating herself.
GM
GM, 1952 posts
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 07:02
  • msg #420

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No one actually checked how recent the killing was - but I'll give that information here since you took the corpse with you. Claire and/or U'lin can tell, from the dried blood, cool temperature and pallid complexion that the scout died more than 8 hours ago, but no more than a day, as the decay has no quite set in.

Not sure if this influences the rest's decision, but I want to make sure you guys are clear on the info you might have.
Claire Larkspur
player, 744 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 07:18
  • msg #421

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I was of mind to go with what Moira preferred, since she is the one with a level of exhaustion, so since she's inclined to press on, I'd be in favour of continuing on too. Since Triboar is less than half a day away and represents considerably better safety, I imagine Claire would easily see Moira's point and likewise be anxious to get to proper sanctuary.
U'lin
player, 880 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 15:02
  • msg #422

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Emma can rest while we drive so she can do nighttime darkvision watch.
Claire can as well, if Moira extends her goggles use.

I'm fine either way, either plan.
GM
GM, 1953 posts
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 15:10
  • msg #423

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Since Zaiya's busy, I'm going to go with rushing then.

Is U'lin/Claire scouting with Moira, or resting in the cart? (Emma will gladly rest)

If so, con saves from you both. I'll work on the update soon.
U'lin
player, 881 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 15:14
  • msg #424

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Is U'lin/Claire scouting with Moira, or resting in the cart? (Emma will gladly rest)
If so, con saves from you both. I'll work on the update soon.
Can we take turns, so we make the checks with advantage?
GM
GM, 1954 posts
Sun 4 Oct 2020
at 15:21
  • msg #425

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Unfortunately, no. Either you rest or don't at all - the journey isn't long enough for shifts to make a difference here.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1193 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 03:11
  • msg #426

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira's going to use another dose of Yerba Root when it's safe to do so, which will negate her current Disadvantage to give her a flat roll.

@U'lin
I've still got two spare doses of Yerba left, if you wanted to use one to roll at Advantage and maybe undo that failed roll?
GM
GM, 1956 posts
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 03:18
  • msg #427

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Moira's going to use another dose of Yerba Root when it's safe to do so, which will negate her current Disadvantage to give her a flat roll.

@U'lin
I've still got two spare doses of Yerba left, if you wanted to use one to roll at Advantage and maybe undo that failed roll?


The first level of exhaustion is only disadvantage on checks, not saves. So Moira actually rolls with advantage.

I'm okay with U'lin retroactively eating another Yerba Root.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1195 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 03:26
  • msg #428

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh?  I thought it was an ability check rather than a saving throw since it's under that section in the rules.  I'm not gonna argue if that's how you call it though.

In that case, Moira doesn't need the Yerba Root this time at all.  I rolled a 17 on my first check, so there's no need for a second at Advantage.
U'lin
player, 883 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 03:27
  • msg #429

Re: OOC Chat - 004

oh heck yes, if there's a chance to try Moira's concoctions!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1196 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 03:29
  • msg #430

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll go ahead and edit my post to mention that Moira brewed some Yerba tea for U'lin when she noticed him starting to flag then.
GM
GM, 1958 posts
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 03:49
  • msg #431

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Oh?  I thought it was an ability check rather than a saving throw since it's under that section in the rules.  I'm not gonna argue if that's how you call it though.

In that case, Moira doesn't need the Yerba Root this time at all.  I rolled a 17 on my first check, so there's no need for a second at Advantage.


Interesting! I thought it was otherwise since that's how I've usually played it, but it is specifically called out as an example of a Constitution check in the books.

Lets make it a save this time. In the future, I'll remember to make it a check instead. Thank you for pointing this out to me Moira - you may gain Inspiration for this :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 1197 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 03:52
  • msg #432

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@DM
Always pays to be honest.  :3  I think confusion could be attributed to the fact that such rolls were saving throws in the past, whereas in 5e they seem to have been shifted over to be an ability check instead.

@Everyone else
Looks like there's need to rush on ahead that last hour then.  Unlikely we're going to make it in time to be much of a difference in whatever's going down, but it doesn't really fit characterization thus far for us to take a leisurely pace with the town on fire.  ^^;

U'lin, can you spare a cup of Guidance for my Animal Handling check?
Nevermind, I rolled a 2 (the dice roller denies my Halfling Luck ability again!), so no amount of Guidance added on will help.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:00, Mon 05 Oct 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 746 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 21:10
  • msg #433

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira:
"Y'three, we're goin' on foot!  Stay close and don't get separated."

I assume going mounted is fine too? :)
U'lin
player, 885 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 5 Oct 2020
at 21:33
  • msg #434

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
@Everyone else
Looks like there's need to rush on ahead that last hour then.  Unlikely we're going to make it in time to be much of a difference in whatever's going down, but it doesn't really fit characterization thus far for us to take a leisurely pace with the town on fire.  ^^;
Well, we do have a pair of light catapults... I mean, that equates to powerful support to a sprawling military town serving as the hub for all forces in the region?
Glory's pretty strong, and shiny buckles.
At least Zaiya has some thirds to throw around :)

Moira Ruadh:
U'lin, can you spare a cup of Guidance for my Animal Handling check?
Nevermind, I rolled a 2 (the dice roller denies my Halfling Luck ability again!), so no amount of Guidance added on will help.
But you had it in spirit, M.
GM
GM, 1962 posts
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 02:18
  • msg #435

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Going in mounted would make stealth significantly harder since Glory is a horse.

The catapults are with the wagon- you could leave the cart with Emma if you want to bring the war wagon but note that a war wagon completely negates stealth and is also made of very high quality, very flammable wood.

Does the party intend to stick around, sneak in or rush in horses and wagons blazin'?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1201 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 02:28
  • msg #436

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I personally didn't think any measure of stealth would be possible outside of what's natural amid a chaotic melee of random brigands running about and everything being on fire.  That said, I don't think we can bring the war wagon in any case?  That would require the horses to pull it, which would either put them at risk and surely require Animal Handling checks since they're worn out, and would leave Emma high and dry if danger came her way.

My basic thought was just for us all to head in along the safest route until we see an obvious point of attack.  IE, a rampaging Ogre, or a bunch of Triboar soldiers cornered by Orcs/Brigands/Whatever is causing all this.  Ideally, if we can flag any of the guards up on the outer wall towers, they might be able to point us to where we can help?  And not shoot us thinking we're also more brigands.
U'lin
player, 887 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 03:00
  • msg #437

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ironically, I saw that we could more easily advance the warwagon ahead BECAUSE of the chaos.
And yet, I also saw us trying to find out what occurred, and lending aid where we could to help defend or extra the guards (depending how bad the situation remains after the capturing force has withdrawn the bulk of occupation, or is settling in to claim the remainder).

Yet, I didn't know it would have much impact here - just fun to consider.

I figured it more likely we were moving in a power squad, since two in heavy armour are not going to be making great stealth :)
Claire Larkspur
player, 747 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 03:46
  • msg #438

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I don't think stealth would be the best approach here, especially if there are people who can be saved by us arriving a couple of rounds earlier. Besides, speed grants a sort of surprise of its own!

@Moira Agreed on the warwagon. While it *would* be fun to bring it along to see how it fares in combat, it's too risky for Emma, Thente, Stoor and the exhausted horses, so it's a different situation from if we were attacked on the road.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1202 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 03:50
  • msg #439

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, the war wagon seems like it would be better suited for a roadside conflict, either where we're in an already-moving chase (like with the first Werewolf encounter) or in some more 'breaking into somewhere' scenario where the catapults can really shine.

I intended to rush right off for the gates, but from U'lin's most recent post, I take it his insanely high Passive Perception has spotted a survivor hiding nearby?
U'lin
player, 888 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 12:02
  • msg #440

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yup
GM
GM, 1965 posts
Tue 6 Oct 2020
at 12:31
  • msg #441

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll give some time for Claire and U'lin to handle the survivor, then respond to Moira's attempt - even if she doesn't spot anything, that doesn't mean nothing spotted her :)

Zaiya - you back with us?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 228 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 17:53
  • msg #442

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Back in the swing of things, sorry I was distracted this last week--a crash house-hunting project isn't something I'd wish on anyone.

At least I found a nice place at a good rate!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1211 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 22:00
  • msg #443

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Glad you got it all worked out as quickly as you did.  I don't know what I'd do in that same situation - rental costs out in my area are sky high.  >_<
U'lin
player, 893 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 8 Oct 2020
at 23:19
  • msg #444

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Let alone all the Halloween decorations we have staked down around the yard :)
U'lin
player, 896 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 03:58
  • msg #445

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
"They are most decidedly _not_ half-pint catapults.  They are quite excellently paired and balanced light catapults, with superior range, and an automatic rewinding mechanism, with offset triggering pulls, so you can manage both catapults even at a full gallop of the pulling horses..."
OOC: Okay I laughed way too hard at that. Thanks for brightening my day - gain Inspiration as well U'lin, that  piece of characterization was a completely on point.
Moira just set me up too perfectly to let it pass - thanks, M.
Glad it made y'all smile as well :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1216 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 04:54
  • msg #446

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
when the language clearly was appropriated back by the little folk to no longer be a depreciation of effect or quality.


While colloquialisms and figures of speech are commonly misunderstood among different folk in fantasy settings, I'm absolutely tickled by the notion that size also factors in somehow and the bigger or smaller two people are from one another, the harder it gets for them to grasp each other's slang.  :3

Also, a little bit of fun - Hero Forge 2.0 is out and it offers color!



Hardly spot-on for Moira, but it's not half bad for a fiddling around with the app for a few minutes.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:54, Fri 09 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 898 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 12:29
  • msg #447

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh nice!
How did you find the utility?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1219 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 12:46
  • msg #448

Re: OOC Chat - 004

As in, how did I locate Hero Forge 2.0, or what did I think of it?

Find: heard about it from a friend and google'd it.

Opinion: a little on the clunky side, but solid overall.  Short of doing a full original digital sculpt and 3D printing it's impossible to ever get an exact replica mini to match one's character, but this is still a really good resource.  I've been seeing a lot of people using it to make tokens by building minis and then screen capping them.
GM
GM, 1981 posts
Fri 9 Oct 2020
at 12:58
  • msg #449

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I like how it seems to capture Moira's cocky but also slightly worried expression. At least that's what what the grin seems to be saying to me.
GM
GM, 1983 posts
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 04:34
  • msg #450

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Edited in Grimes prodding Moira for instructions, since it seemed in hindsight he would do that.

Hope I didn't skip too far ahead, but it looked the party had reached a consensus.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1221 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 05:05
  • msg #451

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
I like how it seems to capture Moira's cocky but also slightly worried expression. At least that's what what the grin seems to be saying to me.


Given that Moira is a commanding officer of a rebel army who's been forced to flee the front lines and take refuge on the other side of the realm immediately prior to the start of the game, and everything that's gone down within just around two weeks time since Nightstone?  And that I believe she's had at least three emotional breakdowns in that period?  "Slightly worried" is probably her default state of existence these days.  :3

Actually, come to think of it, how long has it been since Nightstone?  I haven't been keeping precise track over all the time we've been playing, but now I sort of want to make a timeline calendar to chart events along the way.



Back to the Current Events:
So, I've got an absolutely mad idea I'd like to hear everyone's vote on.  How about U'lin uses his Firbolg magic to disguise himself as a commanding-looking Orc and try to order the Ogres in Giant-speak to attack the Gargoyles?  Meanwhile the rest of us hang back out of sight and ready attack actions to bombard them in a surprise round if they turn violent?

If it works, the Ogres don't have any magic so they can't actually hurt the Gargoyles, presumably, but it'll give us a better chance to get past to Foehammer's shop.  Plus, y'know, we'll have two fewer Ogres to worry about.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:07, Sat 10 Oct 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 756 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 06:29
  • msg #452

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira:
So, I've got an absolutely mad idea I'd like to hear everyone's vote on.  How about U'lin uses his Firbolg magic to disguise himself as a commanding-looking Orc and try to order the Ogres in Giant-speak to attack the Gargoyles?  Meanwhile the rest of us hang back out of sight and ready attack actions to bombard them in a surprise round if they turn violent?

This is a GREAT idea!

If it doesn't work, it was the original plan to fight them anyway.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 230 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 07:09
  • msg #453

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Spicy, if we can buff that at all it could be effective.

(Anyway, I got day shift this run, so my activity'll mostly be in the evening)
U'lin
player, 900 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 13:17
  • msg #454

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Do we have any idea what a command-level orc looks like?
Or if the giants are under orc command?
Perhaps the Lord Protector's informational unit has some reports/descriptions of the command structure/orcs, or the elite scouts have scouted such?

I'm certainly not adverse to trying it!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1222 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 13:29
  • msg #455

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Do we have any idea what a command-level orc looks like?

If I had to guess, just the same as any other Orc but in spikier armor?  DM?  Moira did see a bunch of (dead) Orcs prior, so would she be able to offer some in-character elaboration to help?

U'lin:
Or if the giants are under orc command?

Big assumption on my part.  But Ogres are about as sharp as a sack of mud, so somebody's got to be calling the shots.  The Ogres are looting things too, so they're clearly greedy in some measure.  Even if it's not a "follow my commands" situation, telling them "Hey, there's a bunch of good loot and maybe some more Humans hiding in that mansion.  Let's go kill the Gargoyles and get in there!" might do the trick.

U'lin:
Perhaps the Lord Protector's informational unit has some reports/descriptions of the command structure/orcs, or the elite scouts have scouted such?

DM?
GM
GM, 1984 posts
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 13:41
  • msg #456

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll say Staff-Sergeant Grimes can give you some of that info. Big bulky armor. Bit patchwork, dull colors - black, brown and grey. Lots of scars. In fact, scars seem to be indicative of rank, with higher, more veteran orcs having more prominently displayed battle wounds, sometimes intentionally decorated or turned into make-shift tattoos.

EDIT: Theres more info here, mostly relating to the orcs structure as tribes - most of the Orcs in the area live in tribes that are further broken up into smaller warbands. Each has its own set of war cries, sigils and totems that change rapidly as new leaders/warbands arise and old ones die. The orc tribes in this area speak a mix of Orcish, Common, Dwarvish and Giant.

The Triboar guard had apparently driven the tribes into the ground by the end of the War- the surviving warbands were essentially conducting gureilla warfare on them for the last three months. Grimes has a few complaints, something about the lack of funding preventing them from properly finishing things off.

Warbands usually consist of anywhere between a dozen to two dozen orcs, which often split and reform as smaller hunting parties of 3-4 each. Ogres are indeed part of the orcish military structure, used as siege units or shock troops. Triboar is fortunate that none of the elite ogres or Oni seem to have show up to this battle.

Orc spellcasters are rare, as are their assassins. They tend to only show up with the bigger, more mature warbands or tribes. There were a few that formed part of the original assault, but they apparently left when the main force scattered. Grimes estimates that currently, only 1-2 warbands might be left looting the place.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:37, Sat 10 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1223 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 10 Oct 2020
at 23:28
  • msg #457

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So what do you say, U'lin?  Ready to do something incredibly foolhardy for fun and profit?  :3
This message was last edited by the player at 23:29, Sat 10 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 901 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 01:59
  • msg #458

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Let's giver.


Does Moira want to be up close (aka "dead" halfling I "killed") for melee, or sniping with the crossbow boys?

Anything else besides disguise to help sell the ruse?
-helping sell why the orcband leader is unaccompanied?

Ranged and casters quite spread out to prevent multiple hits from boulders/debris.

Catapults ready to fire on the ogres if the jig goes sideways.

Scouts and Moira help with jargon for U'lin, Claire helping with some speaking suggestion, U'lin can have advantage and Guidance ready on check?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1224 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 02:12
  • msg #459

Re: OOC Chat - 004

For the sake of Ogres being dumb and us wanting to do this quick, let's make the approach as simple as possible.  No need to complicate the ruse with extra flourishes.

- U'lin goes up to whatever near range you feel safe with in disguise and tries to coerce the Ogres into attacking the Gargoyles.  If it works, gravy.  If not, we attack like we would've done in the first place.

- The rest of the party hangs back out of view with Readied Actions to attack at range (or charge in on Glory, if that's what works best for Claire).  The have-way-less-HP-than-we-do scouts should stay with the Iron Beetle to control the horses and fire with their own bows or the wagon catapults.
GM
GM, 1985 posts
Sun 11 Oct 2020
at 03:29
  • msg #460

Re: OOC Chat - 004

This is fine. U'lin can attempt the disguise+ talk, I will call for Deception checks (at least one will need to be made with the initial approach for the disguise).

The rest can just say they are readying reinforcements. I'll treat it as the party surprising the ogres if combat does break out.
U'lin
player, 905 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 12 Oct 2020
at 02:01
  • msg #461

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Plan is to the forgehammer shop for quick recovery/supply looting, so the dwarven smith is recovered safely, and in case supplies are needed in the event the ogres are unable to take down the ogres and dragon construct.

I think?  Certainly has U'lin's vote - he can't say no to dwarven forgemaster, even before his pursuits and concerns of recent time, and doubly so if there are interesting creations to examine - er, for help in the fight.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1227 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 12 Oct 2020
at 02:36
  • msg #462

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Straight to Foehammer's was the plan, yeah.  Taking the Iron Beetle with us if it's safe to do so since that'll help us load up on any recovered items or carry survivors we come across (Foehammer himself, or other civilians).  Once we're settled with Foehammer's place, we'd sneak to the Gargoyle nesting grounds and prepare to lure them out into battle.
Claire Larkspur
player, 757 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 12 Oct 2020
at 05:11
  • msg #463

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Great execution of a fantastic idea, U'lin! To the smithy!
U'lin
player, 907 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Mon 12 Oct 2020
at 16:00
  • msg #464

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ulin is rolling with advantage in perception because his passive is ridiculously higher, and you had said to roll regular told with advantage to reflect the observant feat instead of always defaulting to passive
GM
GM, 1996 posts
Mon 12 Oct 2020
at 16:06
  • msg #465

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ahhh right I did mention that. Apologies, I'll run with U'lins thing.

In that case, Moira doesn't need to spend the inspiration for a success on Zaiya. Excellent I'll update things shortly.
U'lin
player, 908 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 02:03
  • msg #466

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So:
Magical bow in pieces
Chained glowing rapier
3 bane bolts
Some tools
and a KO'd goblin lass.

~
DM, any signs of other rooms/halls, or basements, or such?
Is this a one-room smithy?  manor?
Does the size of the room we're in match the outside?
GM
GM, 1999 posts
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 02:22
  • msg #467

Re: OOC Chat - 004

There were at least three rooms. One room now.

No signs of a basement. Only one floor.

There's probably a bedroom somewhere. Maybe? Wait no, the forge itself has a cot. Smashed though.
Claire Larkspur
player, 759 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 02:46
  • msg #468

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Shall I revive the goblin? She might point us in a useful direction.
U'lin
player, 909 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 02:50
  • msg #469

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
There were at least three rooms. One room now.
No signs of a basement. Only one floor.

There's probably a bedroom somewhere. Maybe? Wait no, the forge itself has a cot. Smashed though.

How does inside compare with outside dimensions?
GM
GM, 2000 posts
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 02:53
  • msg #470

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well obviously the room your in now isn't the whole of the forge. Like I said, by your estimate there's at least three rooms total, you haven't quite searched all of them, but the room you are in is the biggest, probably taking up half the size of the building.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1234 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 02:59
  • msg #471

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I'd say wake her up.  Assuming she's some kind of servant or assistant, she'd be of use in searching the rest of the building and getting any info on what happened to Foehammer.  Though if U'lin's still got his disguise up, he might want to hang back a little until we can establish some context for the lady.
U'lin
player, 910 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 03:07
  • msg #472

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Okay, so U'lin would still be searching for the smith and items of use.
Claire Larkspur
player, 760 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 03:14
  • msg #473

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Yeah, I'd say wake her up.  Assuming she's some kind of servant or assistant, she'd be of use in searching the rest of the building and getting any info on what happened to Foehammer.  Though if U'lin's still got his disguise up, he might want to hang back a little until we can establish some context for the lady.

Will do!
GM
GM, 2001 posts
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 03:14
  • msg #474

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah. Allow me to take it back- you guys have searched the entire smithy and what I described is what you found. There is no sign of Foehammer. Your searches included moving rubble away and checking for hidden doors or basements. There does not appear to be a private quarters, it seems Foehammer slept in the forge room.

Other items that you did find that I did not mention- a ladder/kitchen stocked with dry food, and a storage room containing various raw ingots, ores and other materials for smithing. Both are partially collapsed.

Yes, it is a very sparse smithy. Yes there is a reason for this.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:15, Tue 13 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1239 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 08:53
  • msg #475

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll go ahead and hang back on further conversation with the Goblin to let everyone else have a chance to catch up, add in their thoughts, and sort through the loot.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 233 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 21:51
  • msg #476

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sorry I'm falling behind, I'm kind of buried to my ears in work bullshit and what little time I have off is mostly spent lying down and regretting my life decisions.  Hopefully should clear up within a couple days.
GM
GM, 2009 posts
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 22:03
  • msg #477

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Sorry I'm falling behind, I'm kind of buried to my ears in work bullshit and what little time I have off is mostly spent lying down and regretting my life decisions.  Hopefully should clear up within a couple days.


Sorry that's happening Zaiya.

And dont worry about the recent flurry of posts Moira and I just happened to get into a good pacing for the gobbo convo.

@Ulin if you are grabbing the rapier, it's literally chained to the display case which is made of heavy wood. You could try to carry the entire case but that would be very slow...

Breaking the chains might have its own risks of course.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1240 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 13 Oct 2020
at 23:32
  • msg #478

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Could we haversack the rapier itself like we did with the cursed dagger prior?  Or is it too big a weapon for that?

@Zaiya
Nothing to worry about.  Take things at your own pace - we're not on a schedule or anything, so don't feel like you need to rush.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:32, Tue 13 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 912 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 00:35
  • msg #479

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I think the issue is breaking the chains and runes to remove it.

~
DM, let's talk about the display case.
Presume it's bolted into the case?
  Which would then imply cabinet for storage, and ability to unscrew the bolting mechanism from inside?

If it's simply a screw in, that's easily resolved with a prybar and counter-screwing, which seems too easy - not going to complain if so, but it seems too easy from you :)

Any basic trolleys lying about?  Tote the case out on the trolley?

Handdrill a couple holes, and run an axle through it?

Hammer in/Attach a couple pairs of metal rings, and Lost Ark it out?

If it's a proper put-together case, pop the top panel off and take the whole panel/attachment out?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1241 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 00:40
  • msg #480

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I think the narrative intent here is that we're not supposed to get the rapier so easily as that.  ^^;  Either go for the "Risk vs. Reward" angle; pop the locks so we can pick it up normally and risk whatever magic it has being cursed, or the "No Risk, No Reward" instead; try to haul the whole thing case-and-all (in whatever manner of deconstruction might be applied) at the expense of not being able to do so easily/quietly/quickly or make use of the sword, thus not risking its curse.
U'lin
player, 913 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 01:07
  • msg #481

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That might be Waukeenian philosophy, but Gond encourages creativity and improvement to a process :p
GM
GM, 2010 posts
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 01:31
  • msg #482

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No trolleys nearby. Won't help much either- the floor is rubble so there are spots where you would need to deadlift the entire thing anyway.

The base of the display case isnt a cabinet - its literally a lump of wood. Someone took a tree stump, carved and lacquered it, hammered a bunch of thick metal chains into it with the rapier attached, then engraved magical runes into the wood and chains. The surface of the wood itself is part of the enchantment - you could try dismantling it, say by sawing the top off, but that would take significant time/effort.

The plane to attach wheels to it might work, but would take time (a couple minutes at least) and make a lot of noise. Does that matter? Maybe, maybe not. There -is- still a fight going on outside.

Also while Moira is correct that the intended narrative was to risk the curse if you want to loot it, I try to remain open to weird player shenanigains that bypass stuff I've planned. I admit to being a mixed of miffed and amused at U'lins "loot everything, even the bolts on the doors" approach right now.
U'lin
player, 914 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 01:34
  • msg #483

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
I admit to being a mixed of miffed and amused at U'lins "loot everything, even the bolts on the doors" approach right now.
That's quality cast iron there!  No mocking good door bolts! :P

If I have miffed you in my attempts for entertainment, then my apologies.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1242 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 01:42
  • msg #484

Re: OOC Chat - 004

See, now, it's times like this the "Reduce" spell would be handy.

What about the bow?  Would that take an extended amount of time and tools to reassemble, or is it more of a "plug and play" situation on account of it being a magical item?
This message was last edited by the player at 01:43, Wed 14 Oct 2020.
GM
GM, 2012 posts
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 01:46
  • msg #485

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
GM:
I admit to being a mixed of miffed and amused at U'lins "loot everything, even the bolts on the doors" approach right now.
That's quality cast iron there!  No mocking good door bolts! :P

If I have miffed you in my attempts for entertainment, then my apologies.


Nah its less a "this is impolite" and more "pcs being pcs groan" kind of miffed. Hence the mix of amusement. Don't worry about it.

In any case, regarding the rapier you have the following options:

1) Break the chains, grab the sword fight the horde
2) Somehow cart the entire thing out, certain solutions may make this easier (floating disk for example)
3) Abandon the item
4) Somehow remove the sword without breaking the wards, which will be very difficult and potentially time-consuming in itself

RE: Bow:

Its a "more time and skill is better" situation. A quick assembly, with the checks given, would likely let it work but only temporarily (it'll fall apart again, or even break if the reassembly was shite).

Proper reassembly would need tools, multiple checks and time.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:47, Wed 14 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 915 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 02:16
  • msg #486

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If it helps, U'lin and I really don't want the sword, but you described it so very nicely as uberpowerful and uberdangerous that he cannot see leaving it behind to be found and destroying someone :)

As a player, I'm interested in the bow, but for curiosity - no one really uses it.

As a PC, U'lin's all about the ore for party need... but likely a little guilt, if challenged, at how it will help the wagon and other projects unless kept strictly separate.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1245 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 02:24
  • msg #487

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Is the bow a Shortbow (simple weapon) or a Longbow (martial weapon)?  If it's a Shortbow, I think everyone but Zaiya could use it?  If it's a Longbow, I think only Claire would be able to?

As for the rapier, I'm of two minds.  Because of Moira's piety bonus, she doesn't need a magic sword now - had we encountered this before her deal with Waukeen, she absolutely would've caved despite the risks and immediately snatched it.  But now that she has some divine backing she's got more resolve on that front.  So in terms of characterization, she'd disagree with U'lin about it being safer with them (since it would be unlocked and in the field rather than locked up and half-buried under a mountain of rubble).

But... from a player's perspective, I really wanna poke the bear and see what happens.  :3
This message was last edited by the player at 02:25, Wed 14 Oct 2020.
GM
GM, 2014 posts
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 02:30
  • msg #488

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Is the bow a Shortbow (simple weapon) or a Longbow (martial weapon)?  If it's a Shortbow, I think everyone but Zaiya could use it?  If it's a Longbow, I think only Claire would be able to?

As for the rapier, I'm of two minds.  Because of Moira's piety bonus, she doesn't need a magic sword now - had we encountered this before her deal with Waukeen, she absolutely would've caved despite the risks and immediately snatched it.  But now that she has some divine backing she's got more resolve on that front.  So in terms of characterization, she'd disagree with U'lin about it being safer with them (since it would be unlocked and in the field rather than locked up and half-buried under a mountain of rubble).

But... from a player's perspective, I really wanna poke the bear and see what happens.  :3


This stuff was planned before some of the piety things that went down. I didn't see a reason to change it, since it just highlights the choices you've made :)

The bow is a Longbow unfortunately. Actually, it seems to be of Uthgardt make...
Moira Ruadh
player, 1246 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 02:35
  • msg #489

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Actually, it seems to be of Uthgardt make...


DUN DUN DUUUUUUU~N!
U'lin
player, 916 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 02:45
  • msg #490

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
This stuff was planned before some of the piety things that went down. I didn't see a reason to change it, since it just highlights the choices you've made :)

The bow is a Longbow unfortunately. Actually, it seems to be of Uthgardt make...
Laugh.  We're going to have a time explaining the paranoid avoidance of anything Uthgardt :)

Not everything should work perfectly for the PC desires, so made eminent sense to me.
Claire Larkspur
player, 764 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 14 Oct 2020
at 18:37
  • msg #491

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sorry for the delay, I've been occupied with PhD applications. Have some little-bit-racist Claire! D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...channel=MattHepworth
This message was lightly edited by the player at 18:37, Wed 14 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 919 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 02:19
  • msg #492

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Guidance to Moira if U'lin may do so, DM.

DM, with the damage to the smith, can we just punch through the wall and into the next residence, avoiding the streets?

We certainly have enough materials about for an improvised battering ram, and likely enough to find nice sledges or mauls in a smithy?
Claire Larkspur
player, 765 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 02:20
  • msg #493

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In case Guidance is a no-go, do we have time for Claire to make the strength check?
GM
GM, 2019 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 02:21
  • msg #494

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Guidance to Moira if U'lin may do so, DM.

DM, with the damage to the smith, can we just punch through the wall and into the next residence, avoiding the streets?

We certainly have enough materials about for an improvised battering ram, and likely enough to find nice sledges or mauls in a smithy?


Sure, but it will make a lot of noise.

Guidance is fine! Go ahead and roll that d4, you need a 2 or higher.

If that fails, Claire can attempt a Strength check :)
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:22, Thu 15 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 920 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 02:37
  • msg #495

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
Guidance to Moira if U'lin may do so, DM.

Guidance is fine! Go ahead and roll that d4, you need a 2 or higher.
Roger,Roger.
20:32, Today: U'lin rolled 3 using 1d4.  Guidance.

GM:
U'lin:
DM, with the damage to the smith, can we just punch through the wall and into the next residence, avoiding the streets?

We certainly have enough materials about for an improvised battering ram, and likely enough to find nice sledges or mauls in a smithy?
Sure, but it will make a lot of noise.
Oh, fair, fair.
In quiet of the night in sleepy town, that would be a big, big problem.
In warzone, with active fighting outside, screaming orcs, cackling gargoyles, bellowing ogres, raging fires, collapsing buildings... erratic crashing sounds in the back perhaps a touch less so? :p
GM
GM, 2020 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 02:38
  • msg #496

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Maybe. Only one real way to find out :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1250 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 02:39
  • msg #497

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ay, thanks for the Guidance boost.  That'll kick the value up to 15, just beating the DC.  ^^  Teamwork!

...I'm gonna have to make a Wisdom saving throw soon, aren't I?
U'lin
player, 921 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 03:14
  • msg #498

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Ay, thanks for the Guidance boost.  That'll kick the value up to 15, just beating the DC.  ^^  Teamwork!

...I'm gonna have to make a Wisdom saving throw soon, aren't I?
Not like there are orcs around... or Firbolg that appear to be one...
Moira Ruadh
player, 1253 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 03:15
  • msg #499

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well, I either crushed the saving throw or missed it by one, depending.  Let's see what happens.  :3
U'lin
player, 922 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 03:17
  • msg #500

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Well, I either crushed the saving throw or missed it by one, depending.  Let's see what happens.  :3

Extra fun on how many times, despite Halfling luck, "by 1" has been the critical factor :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1254 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 03:19
  • msg #501

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Rolling a 2 is my "nat 1 failure" for this campaign and I've honestly never rolled as many ever in my life as I have here.  ^^;
U'lin
player, 923 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 03:44
  • msg #502

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Rolling a 2 is my "nat 1 failure" for this campaign and I've honestly never rolled as many ever in my life as I have here.  ^^;

They have seemed to arise for you in high concentration
U'lin
player, 925 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 04:11
  • msg #503

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, is the voice audible/internal to Moira?
U'lin
player, 926 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 04:12
  • msg #504

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If only we knew a very stealthy scout, who could signal back to U'lin where to target his catapult strikes from out of sight... hmmm...
Moira Ruadh
player, 1256 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 04:32
  • msg #505

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That'll have to wait until we can get eyes on the situation and see what's what.  Since there's no stealth check involved to retreat, shall we return to the Iron Beetle to stow away our items and new Goblin friend?  We can appraise our next move from there.
GM
GM, 2025 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 04:51
  • msg #506

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
DM, is the voice audible/internal to Moira?


Sorry, didn't catch this - only internal to Moira.
GM
GM, 2027 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 10:02
  • msg #507

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Just as a heads up, I might be busy tomorrow again. Could I get some consensus by the weekend on whether the party intends to retreat to the Iron Beetle first, or immediately join the battle?

If you join in now, you definitely have more opportunity to influence things. But then we'll need roll initiative :)

Retreating would let you survey stuff, but other events might happen, and you'll need to make another set of checks as you approach to reassess the situation (Stealth/Perception at the very least).

To help put the situation in context, note that:

-you guys have only seen the gargoyles and some orcs fighting so far.
-the orcs seem to be losing
-Foehammer is still missing, last went to fight giants
-the giants apparently carved a straight path through 2-3 streets and the city wall to wherever the wizard's storehouse was
-The gargoyles fighting were originally centered there, but has since moved down the street
-The forge is still within their supposed 100~ feet perimeter
-the fires in the city are still spreading, though slower in this part of the city since most of the buildings appear to be made of brick or stone
Claire Larkspur
player, 766 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 21:18
  • msg #508

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm in favour of trying to sneak back to stow Tetri and the weapons. Heading back will also give us a chance to coordinate with the catapult team. Perhaps we could attempt the stealth check and see how it goes? If we fail, we could always join in the battle.
U'lin
player, 927 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 22:46
  • msg #509

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I had pictured:
Moira acting as hidden lookout, relaying updates of the battle (semaphore, or basic signs), and providing corrections for targeting of the catapults.

Zaiya calculating where we need to aim.

U'lin manning the catapults.

Claire and Glory providing chunks of rubble to throw (around 50lb chunks), and leading the defence if trouble attends.

The archery trio supporting with removing any baddies that look to be approaching us, harassing until Claire dispatches.


Plan being to keep firing at whomever is strongest of our foes, trying to keep the two sides beating each other up, to preserve our strength for when we engage up close.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 235 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 23:00
  • msg #510

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I think I'm more concerned about what the Giants are up to than anything else, but that's just me.

Anyway, I'll toss some Arcana out, don't have time to ritual cast Identify even if I had it prepared I think.  At least my book should help with this.

Dice are garbage tonight though, only 13.
GM
GM, 2028 posts
Thu 15 Oct 2020
at 23:55
  • msg #511

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Looks like the party wants to regroup first? I'll probably update proper in a couple hours. Just checking in right now

@Ulins plan:

My only question is what will Moira use for signaling? Remember that there are a few buildings and smoke in the way. And that combatants might move in battle. Don't expect things to remain static.

@Zaiya check what Goggles of Object Reading (and thus, your book) does.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1257 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 00:36
  • msg #512

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Regroup at the wagon to stow Tetri away and update the soldiers about what the plan is, yeah, sounds like it.

As for battle strategy, it depends.
If there's still Orcs and Ogres on the field, or even if the Giants show up, then we can certainly use the catapults.  My thought was that two of the three soldiers would man those, however, so that we players would all be freed up to use our more potent combat abilities.  But that's U'lin's call on where he wants to allocate his dice rolls one way or another.

If it's the gargoyles we're up against, the catapults are best left to the NPCs since they can't actually hurt the enemy - at best they can maybe knock them to the ground.  We'll need to use our magic attacks to actually make any progress on that front.

On the other end of the battle, what's the plan if we need to break formation?
For example, if more enemies swarm in or the Gargoyles become too much for us to handle outside.  Do we all retreat with the wagon?  Or do we send the wagon off for safer territory at the Keep while we try to push inside the manor?
U'lin
player, 928 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 01:18
  • msg #513

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Tactically, it makes more sense for U'lin and the group be ready to act/move into the manor - with how folk have been about his inventions/crafting, however, he presumes that the others have no interest or aptitude in using the catapults, despite the elegant simplicity of their construction.  He would very easily be encouraged/persuaded to have the archer group take over the catapult work.

Practically, I agree, Moira.
The catapults can continue to harass both sides, while the party looks for the dwarven smith, and helps penetrate to the core of the warehouse/manor.  Who knows - if the gargoyles are based off the dragon construct, removing it might disperse the whole batch at once.
At the least, we're advancing the story :)

My understanding was that the giants were long gone after looting the artifact, but if we know they are about, it would make sense to search them out to recover the smith.
If he has items to help against the gargoyles, that's nice as well.


What are our goal priorities?
Stop the gargoyles, so the fires can be contained in NE quarter.  This is certainly NPC priority.
Defend the town.  Easier with fire controlled.
Rescue the dwarven smith.  Personally, this is more interesting, but the protection of an entire town of folk exceeds even U'lin's curiosity :)
Kill all the orcs- Moira! Not now!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1258 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 01:53
  • msg #514

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I was under the impression that the Giants and Foehammer had both left Triboar already, yeah, but we don't actually know where they are for certain.  Which is troublesome...

In any case, the priority right now is killing the Gargoyles first and foremost.  Doing that will allow the soldiers to spread out, extinguish fires, and drive out any remaining looters.  Once that's underway, we'll be free to follow after Foehammer.  I just want to make sure that's the only fight we're getting into rather than us immediately jumping into the fray with Orcs, Ogres, and Gargoyles when we can just as easily wait a few more rounds for them to pick each other off and make our job easier.
GM
GM, 2029 posts
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 02:24
  • msg #515

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Regroup it is!
U'lin
player, 929 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 02:31
  • msg #516

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Exactly.  I don't want us trapped between multiple groups.

Moira:
I was under the impression that the Giants and Foehammer had both left Triboar already, yeah, but we don't actually know where they are for certain.  Which is troublesome...
Yes, I presumed OOC that was our big hook from town, though it's certainly possible he died fighting them, I read things that the fight was very fast, and the giants were gone shortly before people realized they were in :)



If the trio uses the catapults, helping hit the groups' mass, we can certainly "sneak" into the warehouse after the construct.

Might help if we approached from the NE giant-side, since the NW and SW are orc-side, and engaged with the gargoryles?
GM
GM, 2031 posts
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 03:05
  • msg #517

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
.

Might help if we approached from the NE giant-side, since the NW and SW are orc-side, and engaged with the gargoryles?


Interesting. You can certainly go through the gates and circle. And the catapults will have an unobstructed view from there as well, since all the buildings were demolished in between.

Will still need a stealth check when you get closer, but it would be easier I think, since the enemy focus is on the streets.
U'lin
player, 930 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 03:17
  • msg #518

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sounds like our vector then.

Certainly possibility of trouble outside, but the possibility of trouble v. the guaranteed of two groups... worth a shot.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1259 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 03:22
  • msg #519

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm down with that if we've got a clear shot, sure.  Plus it puts us closer to what's left of the Lionshield Coster in case we can spot Moira's friend.
U'lin
player, 931 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 03:24
  • msg #520

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Also gives Moira a chance to check on her yellow friend location, and check on signs for the giants and the dwarven smith.
GM
GM, 2032 posts
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 04:01
  • msg #521

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If that's the plan, ill like a group stealth check along with any details on your approach- is Claire on her horse, Moira scouting ahead, people readying actions ...etc
Moira Ruadh
player, 1260 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 04:07
  • msg #522

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh rolled 29 using 1d20+9 ((20)).  Stealth at Disadvantage from Exhaustion.

DAMNATION.
Claire Larkspur
player, 767 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 16 Oct 2020
at 04:20
  • msg #523

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm down for that plan. :)

I'm thinking that Claire will go on foot, leading Glory along behind the party so she can respond to whatever Moira discovers ahead while on point. As big as Glory is, stone buildings (which are also less likely to have been burnt or knocked down) could conceivably provide enough cover for a horse. Illusion/ghost sound spells might help the party in general too. Bringing Glory along could pay off later if we need to move more rubble, bust a door, a distraction, or get a surprise charge off against medium-sized enemies on the ground.

Stealth: 8
23:19, Today: Claire Larkspur rolled 8 using 1d20+2.

In case it matters:

Stealth for Glory (at d20+1 for warhorse dex): 13
23:20, Today: Claire Larkspur rolled 13 using 1d20+1.

Nice roll Moira! EDIT: Oh no, it was the discarded roll! D:
This message was last edited by the player at 05:30, Fri 16 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 934 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 17 Oct 2020
at 13:51
  • msg #524

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It's not so much failing miserably at stealth as it is succeeding at finding more XP and treasure in enemy form :)
GM
GM, 2034 posts
Sat 17 Oct 2020
at 13:57
  • msg #525

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Its fine :P

This is close enough that Zaiyas roll matters, so I hesitate to roll for her.
U'lin
player, 935 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 18 Oct 2020
at 00:36
  • msg #526

Re: OOC Chat - 004

She's said life is turbulent at the moment, so checking in is iffy.  Been there before, lordie knows.

I'd say roll away - it's been a couple days since last post.
(You can always give her advantage if it makes you feel better :p )
U'lin
player, 937 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 18 Oct 2020
at 13:26
  • msg #527

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, with his closer look, can U'lin tell if this is armour or construct or statue?
With body inside/no?
GM
GM, 2037 posts
Sun 18 Oct 2020
at 15:39
  • msg #528

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Its literally buried under the rubble, what little is exposed is a fully-gauntled hand. You need to at least try to dig it out to tell

EDIT: I'll say that you can at least tell this is a real gauntlet, the sort someone would wear and not a carving.
This message was last edited by the GM at 15:44, Sun 18 Oct 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 236 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 18 Oct 2020
at 22:51
  • msg #529

Re: OOC Chat - 004

You need a check from me?  Go ahead and roll it, I've got two more days and I'm on my last nerve, so I'm trying to get as much sleep as I can to reinforce it lest I blow up on shift.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1265 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 01:52
  • msg #530

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll wait until after the results of Claire's Persuasion to post.
Claire Larkspur
player, 771 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 02:42
  • msg #531

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Edited my post to reflect the check!
GM
GM, 2045 posts
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 04:15
  • msg #532

Re: OOC Chat - 004

*wipes sweat*

Okay, that's the first of many long-running plots that have started since Nightstone. Hope you like it Claire :)

As for the rest of ye-

*looks at list*

*chuckles*
U'lin
player, 942 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 04:15
  • msg #533

Re: OOC Chat - 004

ooooo nice one, Claire!
Claire Larkspur
player, 774 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 05:13
  • msg #534

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, it really panned out in an interesting way! It's just getting started too! :)

Meanwhile in meta-commentary:

Foehammer: Imma pimp your sword.
Claire: Yeah well um can't think of what to say
Me: It's a weapon upgrade! Make something up girl!
U'lin
player, 944 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 21:41
  • msg #535

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I loved that, Claire - great RP over mechanical benefit.
Does U'lin or his player know why Claire wasn't intending to use her magical blade?  Not sure if it's something U'lin never knew, or I've forgotten because our %^#$^$%^(I%$ plumber/handyguy told us he took a new job, starting tomorrow. Surprise!

(Ok, little vent session: After we put our new office building basically on hold for three weeks so he could go on vacation  (losing almost a month of a four-month timeline!), helped him set up his own plumbing business, used our know-how to gather him the licences and materials he needed to be able to practice the business... he comes back for one day, then 'Oh I have a new job - did I forget to mention I applied for a new job while I said I would be with you to the end and beyond, excited on the project, thanks for getting me my job licences and town business materials for my childhood dream of being own boss, and buying me those new tools I'm loving, and even telling your little daughter yesterday about seeing her...  and I'm ditching you all tomorrow.  Suckas!'
- Ok, he didn't say anything except new job starting tomorrow, done today.  I feel like the sucker comment is implied.  Quits with a couple hours' notice before end of day.

Then my wife asked me to donate to plumber's spouse's birthday.
I'm a slow to upset guy, even viewed as too placid, but I could have thrown something through the window.

Putting this in context of:
-one full-time staff on maternity leave (the handyman's spouse)
-another so distracted with her daughter's wedding that (again today) we found she hasn't done part of her accounting FOR MONTHS, so we're scrambling to address there
-another that is a gentle soul, but so bloody unreliable lately (every time his wife has an issue with ANYTHING in life, he's not available for work, with no notice, to do damage control)
-another super hard-worker... who overdid it at exercising, injured her arm, and is looking at worker's comp/gone for up to two years because typing aggravates her elbow???
- and the sweetest and hardest working of the bunch is having home-front issues from death of close friend, and the last thing we want is have her shoulder more!

Oh, and those small issues of COVID hitting business and social destressing which would otherwise keep my wife sane(r).

We really try to make a super-awesome workplace (and they all do really appreciate it) - we're the best in our area for firm and what we do - but this just feels like we're suffering doormat abuse part2.


I am.  Beyond.  Words.

I remind myself that this will seem less of "the sky is falling/the world is imploding" tomorrow.  Repeatedly remind myself.  I'm the "hold things together" guy when wife is having meltdowns, so seeing her being calm is scary enough, not to mention suggestive that she thinks I'm about to lose something smelly.

Right now, I just wonder what it is that is drawing these ignorant people to us?
I don't, and cannot believe that someone has to be a jerk boss to have people just act with basic decency, but this being taken advantage of over and over...

Ah...

It's times like this that I wish I drank.
No martial arts in town to vent steam.
Never cut wood when angry.
Stupid swimming pool isn't open today.

I think I need my little girl cuddles.  They have sunshine power beyond anything bad Daddy has ever encountered.  Yup.
GM
GM, 2050 posts
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 23:29
  • msg #536

Re: OOC Chat - 004

By "wasn't intending to use" are you referring to Claire's "I don't have any idea for an oath" bit?

Also, that sounds like a really unfortunate series of events U'lin :(

Hope things get better (cuddles are always good in the meanwhile)
U'lin
player, 945 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 23:47
  • msg #537

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So... the handyman then was pushing my wife to give him our tools used for the job, and just watched as unloading supplies had to happen.


Then I found out someone from the regional paper decided to trespass onto our property to take video of our house and decorations, and post it publicly to encourage their community decoration program.
Now... in fairness, would we have objected, if asked?  We certainly wouldn't have wanted our house and vehicles displayed online, but we would have moved the vehicles for privacy, then permitted the folk - it's just the sheer arrogance/ignorance of tramping all over our property without asking, and posting material online, without even TRYING to ask permission.

So.  Crappy, crappy, crappycrappycrappy day.

My little girl gave me one hug, and we stood outside together in a section of snow (defined by tiretracks, of course) watching the snow on Poppy's truck.

...

All is well, again.  Powerful, she is.

Now mommy is having her meltdown time, but Daddy has back his calm, and is on moderating Mommy duty.
Our girl is entertaining Poppy by explaining how she cannot say Darth Vadar (as she says what she 'cannot say', of course).
Dolly really enjoying watching the snow too.
Kitties have given up trying to steal my chicken.  Girl did steal some, though, since it always tastes better from Daddy's plate.


Yup, much better.
GM
GM, 2051 posts
Tue 20 Oct 2020
at 23:50
  • msg #538

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If you need to take some time from posting (and Foehammer's needling) I totally understand. The current bottleneck is Moira's scouting anyway.
U'lin
player, 946 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 00:12
  • msg #539

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Two hours ago, I had posted it, but I held off.  Seems wisely.

With my little girl's powers, Daddy is daddy again.

Foehammer just dropped precipitously in U'lin's assessment, and he won't approach the fellow further about it.
Refusing to even look at a special magical nugget, after the fellow smith stated he wanted to find you, and just finished healing you from unconsciousness, AND freed you?
This Foehammer offends U'lin's Ideal and Bond too much.
GM
GM, 2052 posts
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 00:17
  • msg #540

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea I'm not sure if its been carrying properly, but Foehammers intended to be a bit of an ungrateful asshole :P
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:20, Wed 21 Oct 2020.
U'lin
player, 947 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 00:42
  • msg #541

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Yea I'm not sure if its been carrying properly, but Foehammers intended to be a bit of an ungrateful asshole :P
Jez a little.

Although U'lin wouldn't think it, his player sure wishes he had looted everything from the smithy. :p
Claire Larkspur
player, 776 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 01:57
  • msg #542

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That's sounds like one hell of a horrible day U'lin. :( Sorry you had to go through that.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1268 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 02:17
  • msg #543

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Man, that is a hell of a rough break, U'lin.  I'm really sorry to hear all that, especially after you and your family were so generous.  Ungrateful people suck, but you can at least take some value in having been the better man in the end.

re: Foehammer
Moira's a lot more tolerant of his attitude because he's frankly got a similar manner as herself (which, yes, can be assholish.  She's trying!) and she's got some insider information on him that's relevant to his decision making of late.  She's definitely going to want Claire and U'lin's help in talking with Foehammer about it later.  It'll be something to address once we've got things resolved though, not in the midst of the battlefield.
U'lin
player, 948 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 02:21
  • msg #544

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
That's sounds like one hell of a horrible day U'lin. :( Sorry you had to go through that.
It certainly was, and thanks for the support, peeps.

Moira:
Ungrateful people suck, but you can at least take some value in having been the better man in the end.
That's our approach.
- "We always had plenty... just living his advice.  'Whatever you do today you'll have to sleep with tonight'"


~
Fortunately, Daddy's little girl is amazing.

Can't even argue when she tries to negotiate a second story at bedtime.  Good arguments.  Cute smile too.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1271 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 05:27
  • msg #545

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Stealth Roll:
Bonus Action: Hide
Moira Ruadh rolled 20 using 1d20+9


GM:
The other gargoyles immediately focus their gaze on the halfling.



This message was last edited by the player at 05:28, Wed 21 Oct 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 780 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 05:34
  • msg #546

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Not if I can do something about that! :D
GM
GM, 2056 posts
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 05:35
  • msg #547

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Stealth Roll:
Bonus Action: Hide
Moira Ruadh rolled 20 using 1d20+9


GM:
The other gargoyles immediately focus their gaze on the halfling.




Hmm. Lemme amend that. I realize that your hiding was taking place after the shot, and there is enough debris that you can have cover even with the gargoyles approaching from all directions.
Claire Larkspur
player, 781 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 05:40
  • msg #548

Re: OOC Chat - 004

For the record, my action isn't going to change. I imagine a big horse isn't going to stay hidden for long anyway, and Claire can't beat the shit of out them without them getting closer :P
Moira Ruadh
player, 1272 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 05:47
  • msg #549

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I figured as much, but couldn't pass up on the joke.  :3
Claire Larkspur
player, 782 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 06:54
  • msg #550

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
OOC: Depends - how are you trying to cover for Moira?


I figured putting an armored person on a big horse in full view of the gargoyles, making a racket, and sending halfling-sized objects rolling around would suffice to allow Moira an opportunity to reposition. :)
GM
GM, 2058 posts
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 06:59
  • msg #551

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
GM:
OOC: Depends - how are you trying to cover for Moira?


I figured putting an armored person on a big horse in full view of the gargoyles, making a racket, and sending halfling-sized objects rolling around would suffice to allow Moira an opportunity to reposition. :)


I'm more asking what sort of check do you want to attempt to draw their attention?

While yes an armored person on a horse is big and loud, your arrows aren't doing much to them and they know it. Moira's the real threat here with the bolts that killed one of their own. These gargoyles aren't super intelligent, but they definitely are smart enough to prioritize without extra incentive.
Claire Larkspur
player, 783 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 07:15
  • msg #552

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The basic intention is to create a lot of new visual and aural stimuli so it's more difficult for the gargoyles to perceive a halfling darting off somewhere. I hadn't thought of it as much as a 'taunt', if that clarifies things.

Perhaps a CHA or intimidate check to create field presence? As much as I'd like to use my +6 Persuasion, that might be stretching the definition of 'persuade' somewhat.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:17, Wed 21 Oct 2020.
GM
GM, 2059 posts
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 07:24
  • msg #553

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll say that creating chaos to muddy Moira's position and impose disadvantage on their search checks would be a Performance check (since that seem to cover creation of visual and aural stimuli).

Claire can do this as part of her attacks and movement on the Gargoyle.

If you had tried to draw their attention to you as a threat (which was what I was trying to figure out by the question) then it would have been an intimidate check to get them to abandon future attempts to hunt for Moira.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1273 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 07:27
  • msg #554

Re: OOC Chat - 004

While I do appreciate the help, don't go to any trouble if it means sacrificing your own combat capacity, Claire.  Moira's stealth skill is a +9 to begin with and her "Naturally Stealthy" racial ability allows her to hide amid literally everything in this battlefield, so even with Disadvantage I still have a really good chance of getting a solid stealth roll for hiding.  Plus, if we pull any of the Gargoyles into melee, I'll be able to gain Sneak Attack that way automatically.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:28, Wed 21 Oct 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 784 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 07:38
  • msg #555

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Resolving it as a sort of cinematic 'muddy Moira's position' bonus action 'check' works out fine on that count I think, since I don't have to give up move or attacks to execute that. A 'taunt' style intimidate on the other hand, I suspect may have cost me an action, which may not have been worth it per se.

Might it be a good idea for Moira to hide under Glory? That way we get to punish them hard if they come after you. Either they stay at distance and get shot at, or get into melee with us and (hopefully) get melted. I'm a little worried about them going after the wagon though.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:40, Wed 21 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1274 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 07:45
  • msg #556

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hiding under Glory might be a bit on the dangerous side in and of itself.  ^^;  Moira's currently set amid some market stall-looking area, so she's got cover to work with.  Given that she's only three-feet tall, any of the Gargoyles trying to swoop down on her are pretty much guaranteed to either land first or have to get within striking distance to make such an effort.  Too bad none of us have the "Sentinel" feat to lock them down, but ah well.

Ideally we should keep them away from the wagon since that's where Zaiya is, plus the catapults are better at longer distances.  We need them within some range to be counter-attacked but not let them have the opportunity to attack the wagon or horses.
Claire Larkspur
player, 785 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 07:54
  • msg #557

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hopefully they don't start picking up people Jurassic Park pterodactyl-style. That could be dangerous :x
Moira Ruadh
player, 1275 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 08:09
  • msg #558

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I mean, it already happened to that one Orc and fall damage is a helluva thing... The benefit is that (I assume) they'd have to make a Grapple check to try it, and we're all pretty solid in our core STR/DEX skills to resist.
GM
GM, 2060 posts
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 08:25
  • msg #559

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Obligatory "these aren't standard gargoyles" disclaimer. Feel free to look up the stat blocks, but I'm just informing you guys OOC that these ones are a bit different.

I think there have been IC hints? Not sure if that was picked up.
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:25, Wed 21 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1276 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 09:04
  • msg #560

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Naturally.  I certainly mix up every monster I put into my games when I DM... in part because one of my players reads the Monster Manual for fun and has pretty much memorized all the stat blocks... >_<

These Gargoyles certainly bring to mind the Fire Elemental we dealt with back at the burial site before.  Gemstone being tied to their continued existence and such.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 237 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 13:16
  • msg #561

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Work is done, driving home today, and hopefully I can recover from literally my worst run since starting this job.
GM
GM, 2061 posts
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 15:59
  • msg #562

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Work is done, driving home today, and hopefully I can recover from literally my worst run since starting this job.


Sorry to hear that. As usual, will NPC if necessary. Take your time to catch up.

@U'lin - technically you can't ready a bonus action spell, but that ruling honestly makes very little sense to me, so I would allow for now. The bigger issue is that readying a spell costs your concentration, so U'lin would drop the Shield of Faith if he chooses to ready the Spiritual Weapon. Would you like to ready a different action instead?
U'lin
player, 950 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 21 Oct 2020
at 16:32
  • msg #563

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
@U'lin - technically you can't ready a bonus action spell, but that ruling honestly makes very little sense to me, so I would allow for now.
No worries (as a side - I agree), I only readied it because I thought -thanks again SRD error- that it was a bonus spell.  Pretty sure this came up before, because it sure felt familiar "right" when you mentioned it.

I have corrected my post to show Spiritual as bonus.

GM:
The bigger issue is that readying a spell costs your concentration, so U'lin would drop the Shield of Faith if he chooses to ready the Spiritual Weapon. Would you like to ready a different action instead?
Well now, that IS interesting.  Learn something new every day.  Sneaky little devil burying that point in the middle of textblock.

Adjusting as well.
Claire Larkspur
player, 786 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 03:22
  • msg #564

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Though two of the gargoyles are well within range, I can't quite do much to them unless they're brought to the ground somehow. Does anyone have any resources to do so? Otherwise I'll ready action to charge any that land or plink at them some more.
U'lin
player, 951 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 03:26
  • msg #565

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
Though two of the gargoyles are well within range, I can't quite do much to them unless they're brought to the ground somehow. Does anyone have any resources to do so? Otherwise I'll ready action to charge any that land or plink at them some more.

Laugh, and I'm just thinkin' away how every friggin' gargoyle remains outside my 20' movement of the spiritual hammer :p

At least I reserved to do 6 dmg successfully! :p
Moira Ruadh
player, 1277 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 03:57
  • msg #566

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I dunno, does anyone have a grappling hook?  :3
I was hoping the catapults might be able to knock them out of the sky, but barring that we have to wait until the Gargoyles themselves come within striking range.  Even if they just try and dive bomb us with fly-by attacks, we'll at least get Opportunity Attacks on them if nothing else.
U'lin
player, 952 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 04:06
  • msg #567

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Unless they have flyby trait...
Moira Ruadh
player, 1279 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 04:13
  • msg #568

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh gods, I hope they don't have that.  o_o
GM
GM, 2063 posts
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 04:40
  • msg #569

Re: OOC Chat - 004

*starts scribbling on the gargoyle stat block*

Some rulings to clarify:

@Moira - yes you can retrieve the bolts. They will no longer be magic if you did hit with them though. See https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/ammunition-1

@Claire - you can't ready a move and an attack. However, since you are on Glory, you can have Glory ready the move and yourself ready an attack. Synergy!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1280 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 04:50
  • msg #570

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah, darn, never mind then.  I've got plenty of ammo to burn through at the moment, but it's the magic stuff that counts.  Assuming we and Foehammer all survive, Moira's going to need to get him to make her some more bolts.
Claire Larkspur
player, 788 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 22 Oct 2020
at 05:06
  • msg #571

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
@Claire - you can't ready a move and an attack. However, since you are on Glory, you can have Glory ready the move and yourself ready an attack. Synergy!

Oh, I see! I'll do that then!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1282 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 04:54
  • msg #572

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@DM
Just to check since it's relevant here, is there any way for us to use Acrobatics to reduce fall damage?  Whether naturally or due to magic items like Moira's boots since it triples her jump distance?
GM
GM, 2065 posts
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 05:03
  • msg #573

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmmmm, not an uncontrolled fall like this I'm afraid.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1283 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 05:03
  • msg #574

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Roger roger.
GM
GM, 2066 posts
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 05:06
  • msg #575

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Roger roger.


The less diplomatic answer is 5 levels of monk
Moira Ruadh
player, 1284 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 06:16
  • msg #576

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So does Claire's hit prevent Moira from getting picked up/kill the Gargoyle, or is she still getting grabbed regardless?
Claire Larkspur
player, 790 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 07:13
  • msg #577

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll wait to see if Moira's hit kills the gargoyle carrying her!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1286 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 07:19
  • msg #578

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I mean, picking up a Halfling Swashbuckler is basically like grabbing an angry raccoon.  Nobody's coming out the other side of that exchange in one piece.
U'lin
player, 955 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 15:20
  • msg #579

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
I mean, picking up a Halfling Swashbuckler is basically like grabbing an angry raccoon.  Nobody's coming out the other side of that exchange in one piece.
A couple years ago, I had to track down one of our cats chased by neighbour's dogs into the woods, then lost, trapped in an area she doesn't go when a brutal thunderstorm swept into the area.  Poor thing was out of her mind.  I managed to finally distract and capture her, but before I could secure a grip to pacify her, she turned into ... well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxIOy50dbe0
(At about 1:16 in the clip)
... but moving much faster speed.

I had wicked scratches everywhere, and it didn't matter that she was outmassed by over 30:1.


I picture Moira similarly :)
U'lin
player, 956 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 15:22
  • msg #580

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Claire you may want to wait to see how U'lins initial grapple check does
That is both incredibly kind and hilarious.  :p
Rolled the nat20 on the wrong die check!
U'lin
player, 957 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 17:57
  • msg #581

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hey!  I can see my house from up here!
U'lin
player, 958 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Fri 23 Oct 2020
at 18:23
  • msg #582

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh
player, 1288 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 08:34
  • msg #583

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@DM
A thought occurred to me; Moira can Bonus Action: Dash.  With her boots, she can move enough to get within 60' of the fleeing Gargoyle and thus within her crossbow's standard 80' range.

Since the Gargoyle is actively fleeing and not actually looking at Moira or the party, would that automatically count her as being Hidden/Heavily Obscured amid the smoke and rubble for the sake of giving Advantage to trigger Sneak Attack ranged damage?
GM
GM, 2071 posts
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 08:59
  • msg #584

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmmm...I would say no, same way fleeing enemies in regular combat don't automatically get advantage vs them.

The dash + regular shot is fine though.

Spoiler: You won't need sneak attack.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1290 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 10:22
  • msg #585

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Woo, I love it when a plan comes together.  :3

DM - is the manor still mostly intact and not exposed to the open air?  That is to say, would it even be plausible to have the Iron Beetle follow us for continued catapult support?  Or would we be better served sending them back to the Keep while we delve into the manor interior?
This message was last edited by the player at 10:23, Sat 24 Oct 2020.
GM
GM, 2073 posts
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 10:46
  • msg #586

Re: OOC Chat - 004

From where you are, the front of the warehouse has been devastated. There is a lot of rubble covering the place.

I'll say yea, the iron beetle can follow behind for support, though there are clearly locations they won't be able to reach, especially if you try to go deeper in.

You'll need to get closer and scout again it you want more intel on the layout of the warehouse.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1291 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 11:01
  • msg #587

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So long as there's some line of sight the Iron Beetle catapults can maintain, then it's worth keeping the wagon within firing range.  Thanks for the details.
GM
GM, 2074 posts
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 15:08
  • msg #588

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm so is the party moving to the warehouse right away?
U'lin
player, 960 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 19:08
  • msg #589

Re: OOC Chat - 004

works for me.
Not much reason to give them more time to prepare, and no one is hurt enough to use healing.

If I didn't specify, U'lin will keep the spiritual hammer leading him.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 242 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 05:09
  • msg #590

Re: OOC Chat - 004

RPol is very slow and dubious right now, but I'm good for it.
GM
GM, 2078 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 10:30
  • msg #591

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I've been having a rough two days, though mostly of my own doing. Having something of a block for writing the scenario (I know what I want, and the notes are there, but the words aren't coming) Again, apologies for the delay guys.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1294 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 11:02
  • msg #592

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Certainly nothing to apologize for.  We all need to take our time and recharge now and again, so don't feel like you need to force yourself to post if you'd rather have a day or two to get yourself back in order.
GM
GM, 2079 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 11:19
  • msg #593

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thanks. I spent a lot of time just resting today, so its better now.

In anycase, you guys are like a couple dozen feet (lets say 60ft) from the warehouse atm. I'm sort of pausing here to give some info and see if you guys have a specific things you wanna, prepare or look for on the scene.
GM
GM, 2080 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 00:13
  • msg #594

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Uh. U'lin are you dangling a reflective mirror in front of your glowing form over a dark pit?

Cause while that won't expose your main body it definitely isn't stealthy whatsoever.
U'lin
player, 962 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 00:24
  • msg #595

Re: OOC Chat - 004

And sending my glowing spiritual weapon in too!

Because of the mention of the little gargoyles being based off the big guy, and their communication between each other, ulin is thinking the big guy has advance notice.
It is funnier that he could be stealthy and discounted it :)
GM
GM, 2081 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 01:02
  • msg #596

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah great just wanted to check.

EDIT: is anyone else trying anything?
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:06, Wed 28 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1295 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 01:17
  • msg #597

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Was the view you mentioned in narration including what's perceptible via Darkvision?  Because if so, there's nothing much Moira can contribute until a target reveals itself one way or another.

Otherwise, I'm just waiting to see if the boss monster emerges or if U'lin gets Edgar'd.


U'lin
player, 963 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 01:33
  • msg #598

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Abso-smurfing perfect clip  :)
GM
GM, 2082 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 02:12
  • msg #599

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Was the view you mentioned in narration including what's perceptible via Darkvision?  Because if so, there's nothing much Moira can contribute until a target reveals itself one way or another.

Otherwise, I'm just waiting to see if the boss monster emerges or if U'lin gets Edgar'd.


More info is possible if Moira goes closer, perhaps near where U'lin is. It's another case of angle + darkness making it difficult to see.

This is totally not a trap I swear
Moira Ruadh
player, 1296 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 02:16
  • msg #600

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira's got Disadvantage on Perception checks, so better that she gives U'lin or someone else Advantage on theirs with the Help action.  Assuming an active roll can beat U'lin's passive perception.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 245 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 19:52
  • msg #601

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Half the fun of this game is inventing incantations for every one of Zaiya's spells above cantrips.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1298 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 22:23
  • msg #602

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Cool boss monster and lair, DM.  Quick question though: when this is all done, can we please revive the Bad Guy Wizard so that Moira can stab him to death personally?

Also, Moira is going to use her first round Action to assist Claire so she can re-roll that Medicine check.  So unless the results of a pass/fail roll would kick in at the ??? mid-way point in the round, Claire can just go ahead and take the Advantage roll now.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 246 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 23:21
  • msg #603

Re: OOC Chat - 004

TBH, I think he turned the bodies into bombs or zombies or something.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1299 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 23:22
  • msg #604

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I believe I've deduced what's going on with the bodies and it falls squarely into "Thanks, I hate it" territory.
U'lin
player, 964 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 23:23
  • msg #605

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
I believe I've deduced what's going on with the bodies and it falls squarely into "Thanks, I hate it" territory.
Yepperoo
Claire Larkspur
player, 796 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 23:39
  • msg #606

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I have no idea what's going on with the bodies, but this looks like a great encounter. Well done GM!
GM
GM, 2086 posts
Thu 29 Oct 2020
at 02:50
  • msg #607

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
I believe I've deduced what's going on with the bodies and it falls squarely into "Thanks, I hate it" territory.


Hyuth: you are welcome :D

Re:Zaiya could you give me the exact area you are fireballing? Like specify the point you are centering blast on so I can determine what gets caught.

EDIT: I'm gonna wait a bit, maybe 8 hours or so since Zaiya sometimes checks in about there, then post afterward. If anyone has opinions on the positioning of the fireball I'll take those in lieu of Zaiya doesn't specify.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:05, Thu 29 Oct 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 247 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 29 Oct 2020
at 03:12
  • msg #608

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Roughly U6 or so, there's no special benefit to hitting it dead on, and half the goal here is "Reduce the number of bodies here to do horrible things to us."

ICly, Zaiya's freaking out and is just blasting it as close to a straight line as she can get.
GM
GM, 2087 posts
Thu 29 Oct 2020
at 03:17
  • msg #609

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Roughly U6 or so, there's no special benefit to hitting it dead on, and half the goal here is "Reduce the number of bodies here to do horrible things to us."

ICly, Zaiya's freaking out and is just blasting it as close to a straight line as she can get.


Awesome. Thanks for the quick response.
GM
GM, 2089 posts
Thu 29 Oct 2020
at 04:03
  • msg #610

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Something I forgot to mention: a Remove Curse spell will immediately stop the curse, but I think the point is moot since U'lins out of 3rd level slots.

Also I was writing the update and like. Reading it + my notes. And going "...wow wtf was wrong with me when I wrote this encounter".

Hopefully there will only be -some- trauma by the end of all this...
Claire Larkspur
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ooh hm...what do you think Moira? Continue to operate? Or fight? Narratively, I'm alright with Claire botching the check and accidentally killing the guard, so feel free to go along with whatever you think Moira would do IC.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 248 posts
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Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hahaha oh my god literal rock zombies what is wrong with you GM!

Oh Zaiya's going to be having nightmares for a while.  Tactically speaking she wasn't actually aiming to kill anybody so much as she literally didn't see the bodies there from the place she was shooting at and holy shit giant dragon but it sure happened anyway!

OOCly it was a genuine tactical decision!  But also trauma.

Holy hell this thing is a nightmare beast though.  Who had the bright idea to create grey goo gargoyle zombie hordes led by a gargoyle dragon!  What in every hell is that!  That's one of those ideas that usually gets a god coming down to boop your snoot and tell you 'No, we do not want rapidly spreading hegemonizing threats, don't do that'
GM
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

In every town that you guys have passed, I actually have notes for what happens if you choose not to mess around with the status quo. It's not always negative, but every town has its own thing going.

Triboars is...pretty bad. Lol.

Re:the Fireball. I was surprised, but it makes perfect sense. I look forward to the IC fallout :P
U'lin
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Something I forgot to mention: a Remove Curse spell will immediately stop the curse, but I think the point is moot since U'lins out of 3rd level slots.
ooooo... rub it in some more.

GM:
Also I was writing the update and like. Reading it + my notes. And going "...wow wtf was wrong with me when I wrote this encounter".
Enquiring minds want to know.

GM:
Hopefully there will only be -some- trauma by the end of all this...
Undead.  Corruption of life.  Curses.  Eternal torment of petrification.  Burning alive the civilians.
... oh.. and the "Winter is coming" gargoyle dragon bringing it all together.

GM:
In every town that you guys have passed, I actually have notes for what happens if you choose not to mess around with the status quo. It's not always negative, but every town has its own thing going.
Triboars is...pretty bad. Lol.
And swift.
The horrible spread of this problem doesn't take long to consider.
Zaiya Alvina
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

I swear to god if it turns out there was a Very Important Person in that pile I am probably legitimately going to scream.
GM
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
I swear to god if it turns out there was a Very Important Person in that pile I am probably legitimately going to scream.


*awkward silence*

U'lin:
GM:
Something I forgot to mention: a Remove Curse spell will immediately stop the curse, but I think the point is moot since U'lins out of 3rd level slots.
ooooo... rub it in some more.


Sorry >_<

U'lin:
Undead.  Corruption of life.  Curses.  Eternal torment of petrification.  Burning alive the civilians.
... oh.. and the "Winter is coming" gargoyle dragon bringing it all together..



...

I'm gonna start planning for some sort of "hot springs episode" after this...
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:54, Thu 29 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Zaiya Alvina:
I swear to god if it turns out there was a Very Important Person in that pile I am probably legitimately going to scream.


*awkward silence*


Given the fact that the close friend Moira has been intending to visit since the beginning of the game - who's engagement ring she is currently wearing - lives next door to the wizard's manor and is currently unaccounted for...

Well, let's just hope she shows up elsewhere, or else there is going to be one (1) Extremely Volatile Halfling in the near future.
Zaiya Alvina
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

...  Seriously?

Like, not even a handwavey bit?

Well, that sucks, try to create storytelling opportunities and end up causing a tragedy.
Moira Ruadh
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya:
try to create storytelling opportunities and end up causing a tragedy


This is basically the subtitle for this entire campaign.  :3

On that similar topic, I actually finished making a full timeline of events for the campaign thus far.  I ran it past the DM the other evening for review since there's apparently a specific starting-date on the Forgotten Realms' "Calender of Harptos" that this game takes place in.  But once the final tweaks have been made, we'll be able to post it up for everyone to see.

I'm not sure what's more nuts; that the entire campaign thus far has taken place over a period of just 20 days in-universe, or that poor Zaiya has basically been dropped in the deep end of some of the most dangerous shit the rest of us have built up to right from the word go.  Like, man, SEER better be doling out some crazy hazard pay for her.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:00, Thu 29 Oct 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

I know, right?

Especially given how incredibly expensive maintaining a wizard is and how much time and money they have to blow to expand their spellbook.
Moira Ruadh
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Right?  I used to think that Clerics were the most expensive class because they have to buy diamonds and other pricey material components for specific spells, but the general upkeep of a Wizard is just mad.  Big reason why the only spellcasters I really play in other games are Druids and Warlocks.  ^^;  Bargain bin magic!
GM
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
...  Seriously?

Like, not even a handwavey bit?

Well, that sucks, try to create storytelling opportunities and end up causing a tragedy.


Hm what do you mean handwavey bit? Asking because I don't want to be unfair here.

@Moira I think Claire asked you about the help action, you wanna respond to her on that?
Moira Ruadh
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Whoops, you're right, I missed it amid the chatter.

@Claire
It was already a DC 15 check and if it's gone even higher after this, the odds are against us.  That said, I'd already decided to use the Help Action, so away we go!  Go ahead and make your roll if you're okay with using up your Reaction on this turn as well.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:45, Thu 29 Oct 2020.
Moira Ruadh
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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I was just checking the loot tracker since we need magical healing to save any victims we can.  We have 1 Potion of Greater Healing and 2 standard Potions of Healing that aren't assigned, from the Bandit Stash and Emma.  Would it be reasonable to assume those were handed out at some point prior so that we currently have them on our person?
GM
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Go ahead and ditribute them now.
Moira Ruadh
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Thu 29 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin's already got a potion from Emma's stash, so he's covered.  A standard potion to Claire and Moira, and the Greater Potion to Zaiya sound good?  I think Zaiya had a Greater prior she'd used during the Fire Elemental encounter?
This message was last edited by the player at 23:38, Thu 29 Oct 2020.
Claire Larkspur
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sounds good to me!
Moira Ruadh
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Since we've got a timeline thread now, I actually wanted to bring something up to the group that I've already discussed with the DM.  That is to say... birthdays!  :3

There's actually a lot of holidays and other specifically-timed events in the Forgotten Realms' calendar year, many of which our characters would be aware of and active participants in based on their upbringing, faith, and so forth.  To that same end, it's worthwhile to figure out when our characters' birthdays would be because it's fun.  I'll be adding a full calendar and a related wiki link to the Timeline thread for everyone to make use of.

Moira's, for example, is on the 30th of Eleint.  Specifically, right in the middle of the Highharvestide autumnal festival, as it seemed especially befitting of her characterization.

Forgotten Realms Wiki:
"Highharvestide was an annual festival in the Calendar of Harptos, taking place between 30 Eleint and 1 Marpenoth. It was traditionally a feast to celebrate the harvest and the abundance of food, but also the time when those wishing to travel left on their journeys before winter set in.  It was said that children born on this day were favored by Tymora to have lifelong good luck but be smitten with wanderlust."

GM
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
at 00:52
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

On this note, what do you guys think of a small character trivia thread? Stuff to flesh out things like birthdays or small preferences that might not come up all the time in game, but woudl have been picked up through day-to-day interactions?
Moira Ruadh
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm down for it, sure.  It makes for a fun bit of character building if it's things that others would have logically observed during travel time, or heard about in passing conversation even if not specifically stated by the character.  Sort of like the "give me three rumors about your character - two true and one lie" angle for character creation.

Also, with the timeline, I abbreviated events quite a bit and it's always possible that I missed something.  I certainly glossed over the finer details of the overarching plot of the campaign for the sake of brevity.  So if any of you have any points you'd like to add into the timeline, let me know.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:30, Fri 30 Oct 2020.
Claire Larkspur
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thanks for all your work on the timeline Moira! It's really a lot easier to visualize things now.

GM:
On this note, what do you guys think of a small character trivia thread? Stuff to flesh out things like birthdays or small preferences that might not come up all the time in game, but woudl have been picked up through day-to-day interactions?

I'm 100% down for this. I remember we had some OOC questions about our characters a while back. Why don't we incorporate those bits of information too?

As for birthdays, Claire's would be on 30 Hammer, right on Midwinter. Reason being that it's exactly 9 months from Greengrass...
Zaiya Alvina
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Post coming tomorrow sometime, today was a bit hectic.
Moira Ruadh
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

No worries about it, Zaiya.  Better not to post when tired or stressed anyway.



Re: Character Trivia
I went back through the OOC threads and found the posts in question (because I recalled mentioning prior that Moira's favorite food was eggs, which gave me something to CTRL+F for :3).  It was Claire's idea originally and I certainly endorse bringing it back into use.

Claire Larkspur - OOC - 003, Post 295:
Since GM is away, they have approved my request to flood the OOC chat with (hopefully) fun RP questions about our characters! :D

Today's set of questions have to do with food:

1) What is one of your character's favourite (in-universe) and/or most memorable foods and why? Is there some sort of personal experience or history behind this dish?

2) Conversely, what is one of your character's most disliked foods and why?

3) How would you characterize your character's cooking skill and/or appetite? (Relative to an average member of their race for instance).

Here are a couple of resources I found useful for imagining the culinary world of Faerun:
http://dndspeak.com/2017/12/100-tavern-food/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/c...s/fun_fantasy_foods/

However lengthy or succinct your answers, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. :)

Also, feel free to post your own fun questions if you feel like it!


Moira Ruadh - OOC - 003, Post 298:
Ooh, fun questions.  :3

1) What is one of your character's favorite (in-universe) and/or most memorable foods and why? Is there some sort of personal experience or history behind this dish?
Moira is a big fan of fermented and cured foods.  Owing to her long life of traveling, she naturally tended to have a lot of preserved foods growing up, so things like pickles of any variety, aged cheeses, cured/smoked meats, yogurt, and the like.  Assuming there's a Faerun-equivalent to things like miso, sauerkraut, and kimchi, she'd be all over those in a heartbeat.  She is especially fond of pickled eggs and flavorful hot sauces.  Halflings have long lifespans and thus it's commonplace for them to be able to manage long-term fermenting projects, to the point of being a family tradition quite often.  During communal meals or celebrations with her family and traveling companions, Moira was well-known for always having some curious pickled vegetable, cheese block, or jug of fermented drink to bring to the table.

Moira's favorite food, flat out, is eggs.  She tries to have them in nearly every dish she prepares or eats in general and considers them to be the perfect food.

2) Conversely, what is one of your character's most disliked foods and why?
Horse meat.  Again, owing to Moira's history as a traveling merchant, any time they ate horse was usually after one of their trusted, beloved steeds met an unfortunate and untimely end.  Moira doesn't have any qualms with the food itself but rather can't eat it without having a lot of bad memories surface.  It takes a lot to spoil a Halfling's appetite, but it is possible.  She'll eat it, but she won't be happy about it.

3) How would you characterize your character's cooking skill and/or appetite? (Relative to an average member of their race for instance).
There are two things Halflings are known for: being extremely lucky and being amazing cooks.  Moira fits the bill perfectly.  As has been demonstrated plenty of times in the game, she's all too happy to play chef for the party and is eager to flex her culinary skills, learn new tricks, and find creative ways to feed the force.  As per some home brewery with the DM she's even capable of making dishes so nourishing and tasty that they convey mechanic-boosting effects on those who eat them.  As such, Moira is an especially good cook even by Halfling standards, owing to her well-journeyed history and exposure to more cultures, cuisines, and cooking techniques than most Halflings have.  Back on her history of travel once more, Moira is accustomed to cooking for large volumes of people at once and thus tends to overprepare, leading to plenty of second-and-third helpings.  Though, for a troupe of Halflings, her serving sizes would be just right.

Being a hearty and hale Hin herself, Moira has an impressive appetite and extremely high metabolism.  She tends to eat relatively light while on the road so as not to grow sluggish, but is more than capable of out-eating a grown Human man several times her size and weight without trouble.  As demonstrated in the pie eating contest back in Amphail, she considered several whole pies little more than a serving of dessert and was ready for the feasting table right after.  Lengthy shared feasting days and parties are extremely common amid Halfling communities; rather than gorging on a single huge meal, they have day-long celebrations (if not several consecutive days, in some cases) of constant grazing and drinking with specific larger entree dishes brought out as highlights two or three times over the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmkQvVGD7j4


U'lin - OOC - 003, Post 299:
Indeed, fun questions!

1) What is one of your character's favorite (in-universe) and/or most memorable foods and why? Is there some sort of personal experience or history behind this dish?Spiced chicken slivers with peppers on roasted asparagus.  A Shou trader once travelled all the way up to see the Spine of the World, and stopped in to share supper with the gnomes (and U'lin) at the Trading Post.  The firbolg tend to be heavily dieted to vegetables, but the cycle of life means meat is not unknown, just uncommon.

Sadly, U'lin has never been shown much of cooking.  Sustenance in the firbolg community?  Intriguing devices to produce food more efficiently in the gnomish homes?  Basic travel fair?  Sure... but until Moira, not much in the joy of cooking.


2) Conversely, what is one of your character's most disliked foods and why?
Mushrooms.  A very bad experience on poisoned mushrooms, while leading much knowledge to U'lin, left him very ill on the trip south.  He side-tracked to locate the wretch that had poisoned them in order to remove pesky squirrels... it perhaps wasn't U'lin's finest moment, but he demonstrated very clearly why poisoning a follower of Gond meant never, ever being able to sit or sleep in peace.  Evvvvvver.


3) How would you characterize your character's cooking skill and/or appetite? (Relative to an average member of their race for instance).  Oh, goodness.  U'lin is very inexperienced to cooking, and with the firbolg being very sedate, their recipe list is fairly limited.


Claire Larkspur - OOC - 003, Post 300:
Glad everyone's having fun with these! My answers:

1) What is one of your character's favorite (in-universe) and/or most memorable foods and why? Is there some sort of personal experience or history behind this dish?

Whole strawberries (with honey). Owing to the intensive maintenance and labour required to grow them, strawberries are not a widely-planted food crop (unlike say wheat, potatoes or onions). As such, they were relatively rare even for reasonably well-off rural gentry like the Larkspurs. Claire's mother however, was a skilled herbalist and gardener, and maintained a bunch of strawberry plants in the family garden. Most of it was made into jam or dried preserves, which keeps better, but on rare occasions, Claire and her brothers would get to have whole strawberries with honey and wheatcakes. This was always a great treat that she now associates with home and family.

Pork is another food she can appreciate well. Slaughtering animals isn't pleasant, but that tends to be her father or brothers' job, even if she's perfectly capable of doing it herself. It's important to her that as little of the animal as possible is wasted however, which is not hard since pig hide can be tanned, entrails made into sausages, bones into soup stock, etc.


2) Conversely, what is one of your character's most disliked foods and why?

Saltwater fish. Nightstone isn't terribly far inland, but neither is it a fishing village, so while it was possible to purchase fish caught at sea, it wouldn't be particularly fresh by the time it got to Nightstone or (if refrigerated by magical means) too expensive for Mama Larkspur to justify buying it when there was other quality produce to be had at market. To Claire, fish is stinky in a weird way - unlike manure, which at least has a...certain kind of freshness about it! Dried fish, with its shriveled, googly eyes, looks weird to her. She doesn't have a particular problem with freshwater fish...except that you can get worms from it if you're not careful. Eww. Better avoid that too...

3) How would you characterize your character's cooking skill and/or appetite? (Relative to an average member of their race for instance).

Though I think of Faerun (and other DnD settings) as generally egalitarian, my imagination of Claire's social circumstances in the context of historical agrarian life does involve some light division of labour by gender - as such, she finds herself in the kitchen (and apothecarium) slightly more so than her brothers and father. As such, Claire is a reasonable cook, experienced at working with homely fare and the fruits of the land, especially given her devotion to Chauntea. Soups, jam-making and baking are totally up her alley. By contrast, she is less skilled at using exotic spices or catering to extremely discerning palates as haute cuisine does. Harvest festivals are her favourite occasions, and she takes great joy in cooking as part of a larger community, be it the village or abbey.

As we have seen at the pie-eating contest and a few other occasions, Claire's appetite is more than a match for any man's. Her high rate of metabolism is partially due to taxing agricultural work, but also her father's martial training. As a martial weapon, the greatsword requires some strength to heft and swing, and is more characteristic of a professional soldier (as Arkan Larkspur was) than a typical peasant. All that energy needed likewise demands a voracious appetite, which she would be occasionally teased for (and was slightly insecure about) as a teenager. Now an adult, she doesn't care so much about that anymore.

I feel like my social science/history background shows quite a bit in my answers...




So if I may add onto the questions, a fun one I've always been fond of (despite being just awful with knowing performers) is thus:

"If your character was cast in a movie, who would you want to depict/voice act them?"

I'm absolutely rubbish with actors and actresses, so I'd just lean into the voice acting angle as if we're going with an animated version.  I always hear Moira in my head as being right in that mezzo-soprano range; she's a full grown woman (possibly the eldest of the group?  Not sure about U'lin's age) but she's small and that would pitch her up a little.  I think someone like Sarah Greene would be a good fit for her voice, both in general pitch and accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBKJv0eD-yQ
This message was last edited by the player at 08:56, Fri 30 Oct 2020.
U'lin
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
at 17:26
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Re: Character Trivia
"If your character was cast in a movie, who would you want to depict/voice act them?"
I hear U'lin as a deeper, but less gravitas voice.
Keith David has that nice balance of seriousness, drifting lighter as U'lin stream-of-thoughts, focusing more serious during critical construction or contest of faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygrEVnrg3Ic

Moira:
she's a full grown woman (possibly the eldest of the group?  Not sure about U'lin's age)
U'lin's actually quiet youthful, but between his height, size, and deep-thoughts intermixed with science knowledge (and dear gods, the stream of thought), he presents older.
Moira Ruadh
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Re: U'lin Voice
Keith David?  That's not where I would've gone first, but I can picture that for U'lin now that you mention it.  Maybe not quite as his Goliath performance because Goliath is so Shakespearean.  But Keith David's done a ton of other work where his general pitch fits... maybe the Arbiter from Halo?  That's got the Goliath bass but a more of a blend of that sort of "methodical, yet spiritual" mannerism that could suit U'lin as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ESTDf7ALcg

Re: Ages
Yeah, it's always really hard to tell with the various races since their rates of maturity vary along with their total lifespans.  Moira's the opposite - she's older, but presents as younger because Halflings don't crack.  They're all basically shown like Bilbo; appear as mid-40s at the oldest when they're well beyond a century, and only age all at once right at the end of their lifespan.

I think Firbolgs live, like, what, four or five hundred years?  Almost as long as Elves if I recall.
U'lin
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

... Claire, at least no Moonbeams! :p
Claire Larkspur
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Fri 30 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
... Claire, at least no Moonbeams! :p

Not yet! :)

I imagined U'lin might sound somewhat like William Bassett, in his role as Warcraft's Cairne Bloodhoof. But considering that actually he isn't that old for a firbolg, I could see Keith David fit well!

Moira:
"If your character was cast in a movie, who would you want to depict/voice act them?"

I recall mentioning it before, but Emily Blunt as she appeared in Edge of Tomorrow was a big inspiration for Claire - athletic without being a beefcake. With a British accent, but not quiteee as heavy as her Mary Poppins one.
Zaiya Alvina
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Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 04:02
  • msg #638

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Still here, still plan to post, just busy riding out a nasty stomach upset right now that's being quite distracting.
Claire Larkspur
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Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 06:50
  • msg #639

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Quick trivia question that may(?) make a difference in the current situation: What languages can everyone's characters speak?
GM
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at 07:04
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

I think the party has been pretty open about their languages, so I'm just gonna post it here for Claire's sake:

Claire - Common, Elven, Sylvan
Moira - Common, Halfling, Giant, Thieves Cant
U'lin - Common, Elvish, Giant, Gnomish, Dwavern
Zaya - Common, Giant, Infernal

Interestingly, no one speaks Draconic
Zaiya Alvina
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Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 07:24
  • msg #641

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I feel I had a claim to it, but because of Reasons I chose not to.

Anyway, stomach's finally gotten back under control, I'll try to bang off a post shortly.
Claire Larkspur
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Sat 31 Oct 2020
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Might want to throw some healing on the dying civilian, on the off-chance it's Moira's acquaintance! I shall enjoy a heroic moment for all of the one second it lasts :P
This message was last edited by the player at 07:41, Sat 31 Oct 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 256 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 07:46
  • msg #643

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yes please do I'd rather not be executed by my own party member for killing their friend.

(That was still by far the worst decision I've ever made from an OOC perspective what was I thinking)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1316 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 14:58
  • msg #644

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In reply to Zaiya Alvina (msg # 643):

Nah, it wouldn't be that bad.  I mean, it would be bad but I don't endorse PvP in any situation unless it's an active decision made by both players for their shared story development.  At most Moira might've tried to punch Zaiya in the gut.  But, as it stands, Moira actually didn't see the Fireball impact happen - she was Hidden behind the edge of the manor door frame, so unless Zaiya herself fesses up or one of the others remarks about it, Moira could reasonably be unaware of the action and just think the victims were burned to death in the already-existing building fire.

Regardless, I've already been talking with the DM a bit about Moira's mannerisms and reactions for this sort of scenario in general.  Her friend dying has always been on the table as a risk no matter what.  Moira wouldn't hold Zaiya responsible for her friend's death even if she was aware of Zaiya's Fireball.  They'd most certainly have some words and bad blood between them for some time, but Moira's been looking at the bigger picture of all the party's woes for a while and her friend's death would just further galvanize her against the Giant conflict.  IE; the actual core cause of fault behind everything awful that's been happening to everyone.
Claire Larkspur
player, 806 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 16:38
  • msg #645

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Also, having exact control over where the Fireball is aimed is a feature of the (meta) mechanics of DnD. But in-character and in-game? It's not clear that Zaiya had a meaningful choice under the practical circumstances to cause or avoid collateral damage. Unfortunate yes, and IC Moira might plausibly be sour about it, but collateral damage is a reality of battle. Especially considering how dangerous this foe seems to be, 'holding back' may cost more lives.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1317 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 16:53
  • msg #646

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yep yep.  Moira's a soldier and well-accustomed to the costs of battle and warfare; she knows full well that you can't save everyone and sometimes there's crossfire.  She'd be more angry if it was clear that Zaiya intentionally targeted the civilians as a preemptive measure, but even then would keep the logical-yet-callous view of 'trying to reduce danger' in mind.

Of course, this is all going through the filter of in-character thought processes.  OOC, I was right there with the 'if these NPCs are going to become enemies and are already dying, then killing them preemptively would be efficient...' train of thought as well.  Characters have their own alignments and values, but players are always 'Chaotic Practical' once Initiative gets rolled.
GM
GM, 2104 posts
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 17:06
  • msg #647

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DMs are Lawful Suffering

Whose suffering you ask?

Yes.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1318 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 17:35
  • msg #648

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Speaking as a Forever DM in the offline games, yes.  This is truth.
Claire Larkspur
player, 807 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 18:21
  • msg #649

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Epic dash there Moira!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1320 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 31 Oct 2020
at 19:15
  • msg #650

Re: OOC Chat - 004

In reply to Claire Larkspur (msg # 649):

Moira's established pattern of high-velocity adventure continues.  :3  Honestly, she's literally thrown herself into more battles than any other character I've played thanks to me wanting to play up that high DEX and Acrobatics score.
GM
GM, 2105 posts
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 04:39
  • msg #651

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin, are you making two attacks with the hammer? I don't think clerics have extra attack
GM
GM, 2107 posts
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 10:02
  • msg #652

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I am currently ignoring the 2nd attack from U'lin until I can get confirmation, but I don't think it changes much in terms of actions from the monsters this round. So just gonna update and move on first.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 257 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 11:10
  • msg #653

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well, at least I don't have to feel bad about killing the wizard, given how he was already cut in half!

Still, I am not liking where this fight is going, I don't have enough crowd control to keep it pinned for long.
GM
GM, 2108 posts
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 11:15
  • msg #654

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Fireballfireballfireballfireballfireball-
U'lin
player, 973 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 12:56
  • msg #655

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin, are you making two attacks with the hammer? I don't think clerics have extra attack

Advantage from web
GM
GM, 2109 posts
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 16:44
  • msg #656

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The web save only occurs at the start of it's turn, not when the spell is cast. It's not restrained at that point. I mentioned that in the initial post.
U'lin
player, 974 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 18:46
  • msg #657

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Indeed. Thought they were restrained until saved but weirdly not

Oh well, ulin wiffs every attack

Thanks for clarifying for me
GM
GM, 2110 posts
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 19:18
  • msg #658

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well you get another shot at least :P

I realised with Moira's rescue of the "hostage" there aren't any more Stone-Cursed Zombies left, so initiative is free for all now. Go nuts guys.
Claire Larkspur
player, 808 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 20:43
  • msg #659

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh boy oh boy.

Hold on to your hat my gargoyle friend, here comes a Nat20 crit from Claire!
This message was last edited by the player at 20:43, Sun 01 Nov 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 258 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 20:58
  • msg #660

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
Oh boy oh boy.

Hold on to your hat my gargoyle friend, here comes a Nat20 crit from Claire!


Achieve your true calling.

PRESS SMITE EVIL

Oh, while we're on that topic, I don't suppose I can figure out if it's going to hit us with Dragon's Breath or if this is just windup to something I can Counterspell?  Like is this an Arcana check or something?
This message was last edited by the player at 21:07, Sun 01 Nov 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1321 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 1 Nov 2020
at 23:41
  • msg #661

Re: OOC Chat - 004

15:39, Today: Moira Ruadh rolled 5 using 1d20+1.  Wisdom Save DC 11 vs. Frightened.
15:39, Today: Moira Ruadh rolled 3 using 1d20+1.  And again, because Halfling.
15:40, Today: Moira Ruadh rolled 3 using 1d20+1.  End of Turn Saving Throw.

lol the dice roller has told me to sit down.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:43, Sun 01 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2111 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 01:02
  • msg #662

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Claire Larkspur:
Oh boy oh boy.

Hold on to your hat my gargoyle friend, here comes a Nat20 crit from Claire!


Achieve your true calling.

PRESS SMITE EVIL

Oh, while we're on that topic, I don't suppose I can figure out if it's going to hit us with Dragon's Breath or if this is just windup to something I can Counterspell?  Like is this an Arcana check or something?


If you want DM confirmation on whats going on yes, that's an Arcana check.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 260 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:05
  • msg #663

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Great!

And port...

Wait.

I've gone all this time and I haven't rolled today's Portents!

21:04, Today: Zaiya Alvina rolled 29 using 2d20 ((19,10)

So, that's a 19 and a 10.

So

In this opposed Charisma Check, Moira does not need to roll, nor does the Dragon.

Moira got a 19, and the Dragon got a 10.

AS ACCORDING TO THE PROPHECY!

Arcana check's a big whiff though at only 12.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:06, Mon 02 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2113 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:06
  • msg #664

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
Great!

And port...

Wait.

I've gone all this time and I haven't rolled today's Portents!

21:04, Today: Zaiya Alvina rolled 29 using 2d20 ((19,10)

So, that's a 19 and a 10.

So

In this opposed Charisma Check, Moira does not need to roll, nor does the Dragon.

Moira got a 19, and the Dragon got a 10.

AS ACCORDING TO THE PROPHECY!


...sonofabitch
Moira Ruadh
player, 1323 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:07
  • msg #665

Re: OOC Chat - 004

[distant halfling cackling]

That said, does Zaiya have any other Portents left in the tank after this, or is it only two per day?  Because if she has another low one left that might ensure the Boss Monster could fail a saving throw against the Slaying Arrow if Moira ever has the chance/need to shoot one, that'd be helpful.
GM
GM, 2115 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:10
  • msg #666

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Nah 12 is enough.

Yes its totally about to laser the shit out of Claire and U'lin.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1324 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:13
  • msg #667

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Using "Command"'s listed options, would "Grovel" halt its breath weapon going off?

It'll either be "Grovel" or "Halt" since either of those would presumably prevent it from attacking at the very least.  Though "Grovel" is more useful because it makes the Boss Monster go Prone, which means that Claire and U'lin's next attacks against it on our turn come at Advantage.

Grovel:
The target falls prone and then ends its turn.


Halt:
The target doesn't move and takes no Actions. A flying creature stays aloft, provided that it is able to do so. If it must move to stay aloft, it flies the minimum distance needed to remain in the air.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:14, Mon 02 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2116 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:15
  • msg #668

Re: OOC Chat - 004

You aren't limited to the listed options on command. Its more so you can't ask it to "die" for example or "shutdown".

Grovel and Halt will both work to delay its next turn's actions. Whatever those might be *whistles*
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:16, Mon 02 Nov 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 262 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:16
  • msg #669

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
[distant halfling cackling]

That said, does Zaiya have any other Portents left in the tank after this, or is it only two per day?  Because if she has another low one left that might ensure the Boss Monster could fail a saving throw against the Slaying Arrow if Moira ever has the chance/need to shoot one, that'd be helpful.


I get two per day, this seemed a good time to expend them.

So, based on the Arcana check, is this something Zaiya can counterspell or do they just have to take it on the chin?  It's not a 'Real' Dragon after all so it wouldn't necessarily have a free Breath Weapon so much as just a loaded spell trigger or something.

...

Wait, if the Grovel is timed that it has to shut its mouth when it's about to breath weapon attack, won't that mean it's subjected to its own breath weapon?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:17, Mon 02 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2117 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:17
  • msg #670

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Not a spell unfortunately, its basically a breath weapon effect.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 263 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:17
  • msg #671

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Not a spell unfortunately, its basically a breath weapon effect.


Alas.

Clutching a guaranteed Command though was a good use of my Portents though!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1325 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:18
  • msg #672

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh, absolutely so.  I totally forgive you for Fireball'ing my friend.  :3
GM
GM, 2119 posts
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 02:57
  • msg #673

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
It's not a 'Real' Dragon after all so it wouldn't necessarily have a free Breath Weapon so much as just a loaded spell trigger or something.


*whistles innocently*

Zaiya Alvina:
Wait, if the Grovel is timed that it has to shut its mouth when it's about to breath weapon attack, won't that mean it's subjected to its own breath weapon?


Another command might have done something like that. Grovel means it can't fire, since it skips its regular actions.

Man that's a lot of energy build-up.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1327 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 2 Nov 2020
at 03:20
  • msg #674

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I mean, if we're gonna explode we might as well all explode together.  :3

Go for it, Claire and U'lin!  Attacks made within 5' of a prone creature are at Advantage, so swing away.  Also, since the Boss Monster is right on the edge of that pit, might I suggest the Shove action?

Shove:
Using the Attack action, you can make a Special melee Attack to shove a creature, either to knock it prone or push it away from you. If you’re able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this Attack replaces one of them.
The target must be no more than one size larger than you and must be within your reach. Instead of Making an Attack roll, you make a Strength (Athletics) check contested by the target’s Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check (the target chooses the ability to use). If you win the contest, you either knock the target prone or push it 5 feet away from you.

This message was last edited by the player at 03:23, Mon 02 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2120 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 02:42
  • msg #675

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin - a Shove is not an Attack roll, you don't get advantage on that. I will take the 14 regardless since it was rolled first.

I think I will add a rule that players need to declare their sources of advantage whenever they roll with it, so I can easily cross check.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1330 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 03:14
  • msg #676

Re: OOC Chat - 004

owwwwwww... "Evasion" seems so far away...

Even if Claire makes the DC, I believe she's low enough on HP it'll drop her to 0 anyway.  The real question here is if U'lin makes it or not, and whether he's on immediate Potion Duty to get Claire back on her feet or if Moira and Zaiya need to scramble to get them both back up before Death Saving Throws start kicking in.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:15, Tue 03 Nov 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 264 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 03:33
  • msg #677

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I think Zaiya should have at least one potion?  I dunno how they were all distributed so...

...

I will say, I feel better about my earlier fireball.  That would have done what the fireball did!

Probably!

Hoo boy, how much HP did that beastie have?
This message was last edited by the player at 03:34, Tue 03 Nov 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1331 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 04:03
  • msg #678

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya will have a Potion of Greater Healing on her (as distributed from earlier loot).  Claire, U'lin, and Moira all currently have a standard Potion of Healing on them (Moira used hers earlier, but picked up another one from the dead wizard's bag).

Regardless of whether or not Claire and U'lin are both KO'd, we have enough immediate access to Potions to get them back up again.  It might fall on Zaiya to do it all though, depending on whether or not the Acrobatics check is required to safely scale the pit wall outside of a battle situation.  Failing the check means you fall and take 3 Damage, and it would just figure that after rolling surprisingly well for being at perma-disadvantage the whole event, Moira would cherry tap herself on a drop for her last 3 HP after all was said and done.  ^^;

RE: Boss Monster HP
I'd say at least 150 HP?  It started the battle already "Lightly Damaged".  From there, Claire hit it for 64 damage, Zaiya for 38, and Moira for 34 at a total of 136 damage dealt.  U'lin, meanwhile, was right in there co-tanking with Claire and managed a clean sweep of the enemy forces between his own attacks and the Iron Beetle catapults, 'cause hoo boy being swarmed in that situation would've been real damn bad for us all.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:21, Tue 03 Nov 2020.
Claire Larkspur
player, 812 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 04:25
  • msg #679

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin won't be KOed. I've made sure of it :)

This was prettyy close to an instant kill! If Claire had been 5 hp lower than she was, you'd have an actual dead PC on your hands. Might have been an interesting character development opportunity!
This message was last edited by the player at 04:28, Tue 03 Nov 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1332 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 04:33
  • msg #680

Re: OOC Chat - 004

You could've joined Moira in the "party members who have died at some point" club.  :3

Helluva hit all the same.  That giant explosion that U'lin and Zaiya were in back at the first excavation site was only 28 Fire Damage by comparison.  If that was big enough to be felt for miles around, odds are this blast probably lit up the sky like it was midday for a few seconds.

https://youtu.be/C_SwmGvlMqc?t=128
This message was last edited by the player at 04:43, Tue 03 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2122 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 05:56
  • msg #681

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea I rolled openly for the explosion because there was a chance of MURDER.

...wait shit.

13:44, Today: GM rolled 9 using 1d20+2.  Alaestra save. Uhhhhh-

*checks bard statblock*

49-7 = 42 HP
Bards have 44 Max HP

GOOD NEWS



Now thats over, the boss was templated off a Young White Dragon statblock with a few modifications

1) Construct subtype, immunity to poison, fear, charm and exhaustion
2) All refences to cold swapped to lightning
3) Breath weapon is a line instead of a cone, dex save instead of con, does not recharge this battle. Telegraphed heavily and only used when near death.
4) 133 Max HP minus about 20 damage from earlier tussles. If the battle had dragged it would have started repairing itself with the damaged Stone-Cursed/Gargoyles. (its also how it was gradually repairing itself over time. I ballparked how long you guys took and gave it HP based on that. If you were faster it would have been more damaged, but you might have risked the gargoyles)
5) Lair actions - Fear aura, Stomp and a "heal" that consumed a Stoned-Cursed
6) 2 attacks instead of 3 for the multiattack
7) Death throes, originally meant to be much lower, but I decided that the breath weapon being "choked" while it was dying sort of fit the narrative of it overloading and exploding and went with the full damage of the breath weapon.

The bolt alone would have killed it, I wanted to see if Claire or U'lin might have tried shoving it before updating. If it fell into the pit, the explosion wouldn't have hit anyone :x

This was definitely an atypically powerful boss for a party of level 5s, but you guys are pretty optimized with significant magic items. As "cheats" there was the orb, the possibility of recovered npcs fighting for you, plus the Iron Beetle support fire. I would have also been amendable to attempts to subvert the room's wards (though I didn't hint enough at that in hindsight). As complications well, the hostage situation + stone cursed obviously.

Am curious how you guys found it!

Also I had a plan if you guys wiped here, which would have been pretty dark but might have had some interesting turns (the guard find you guys eventually and defeat the construct with support from Foehammer, but at great loss. Some percentage of the party wakes up with shards implanted in them :P)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1333 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 06:11
  • msg #682

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
49-7 = 42 HP
Bards have 44 Max HP

GOOD NEWS


DM, you're really bad for my blood pressure sometimes.



GM:
Young White Dragon statblock


WE FOUGHT A WHAT AT WHICH LEVEL?!

Seriously though, it was a great fight with lots of fun angles.  I love battles that are more involved than "throw numbers back and forth until someone dies".  Give me a fight that's equal parts puzzle any day.  The Lair actions, the presence of different kinds of enemies, the remote control gem, having Alaestra in the mix as effectively a hostage - it all makes for a really interesting battle.  The only thing we didn't have was a transforming battlefield that changed its layout midway through the fight.  But even then, we sort of had a similar effect for those of us who fell into the pit or failed out Fear saves since that directly changed out movement options.

Odds are we could've ended that fight two rounds earlier and likely before the Guardian Statue ever got to use its breath weapon, or without even bothering with the control gem, if Moira and Claire had focused fire instead of futzing around with Medicine checks and trying to save NPCs.  But that honestly would've made for a far less interesting battle overall.  What we ended up with was actions that highlight character motivations in a high stakes clash with us scraping by on the skin of our teeth, all of which really helps sell the level of danger at play here.

That said, I'm really ready for that obligatory hot springs episode now.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:18, Tue 03 Nov 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 265 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 13:15
  • msg #683

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I certainly hope there's at least treasure worthy of a Young White Dragon fight here!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1334 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 13:37
  • msg #684

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If nothing else, Moira's got a bag of scrolls for Zaiya.  If we get lucky with searching, maybe we can find the wizard's spellbook and/or other magic items he might've had on the property?  Assuming we're allowed to call dibs on any goods found, that is, rather than all of it defaulting to ownership by Triboar itself and a potential payday being awarded from the Lord Protector instead.
U'lin
player, 978 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 14:35
  • msg #685

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
RE: Boss Monster HP
I'd say at least 150 HP?  It started the battle already "Lightly Damaged".  From there, Claire hit it for 64 damage, Zaiya for 38, and Moira for 34 at a total of 136 damage dealt.  U'lin, meanwhile, was right in there co-tanking with Claire and managed a clean sweep of the enemy forces between his own attacks and the Iron Beetle catapults, 'cause hoo boy being swarmed in that situation would've been real damn bad for us all.
Laugh, and thanks for making me feel good for not managing to do ANYTHING against the boss.

I am glad that catapults had some involvement in the overall scene.  U'lin had his moment to shine with the ogre redirect and earlier battle.

Moira Ruadh:
Helluva hit all the same.  That giant explosion that U'lin and Zaiya were in back at the first excavation site was only 28 Fire Damage by comparison.  If that was big enough to be felt for miles around, odds are this blast probably lit up the sky like it was midday for a few seconds.
Heh.  That makes the second nuclear blast U'lin's taken at ground zero.  Strangeness.

Definitely an interesting story event/encounter series.
GM
GM, 2123 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 15:47
  • msg #686

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The side effect of U'lin killing all the mooks was that they couldn't swarm Zaiya, and couldn't be used by the Boss to heal. I wouldn't say your contribution was insignificant at all.

Plus now you get to patch everyone else up! :D

Also Claire's oath power specifically does not protect her. We discussed it and felt that it made sense for a selfless "guardian" ability.
U'lin
player, 979 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 18:40
  • msg #687

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
The side effect of U'lin killing all the mooks was that they couldn't swarm Zaiya, and couldn't be used by the Boss to heal. I wouldn't say your contribution was insignificant at all.
Oh, I didn't say U'lin did NOTHING... just not anything against boss.  Removing the healing option was certainly helpful, and clearing off the minions to prevent swarming of Claire and Zaiya of course of assistance in the encounter.

I'm all good, no worries.  Just a laugh at not being able to touch the dang beastie!

GM:
Plus now you get to patch everyone else up! :D
Truly, the greatest pleasure dreamed by any healbot. :P

GM:
Also Claire's oath power specifically does not protect her. We discussed it and felt that it made sense for a selfless "guardian" ability.
I wouldn't have expected it otherwise, but I'd feel awfully bad if I didn't try.

IC, U'lin doesn't have my meta knowledge, nor know at the immediate what the guardian ability would do, but if presuming something protective by the image positioning, then it's a reasonable attempt to interpose a shield physical and/or divine between the danger and Claire.
U'lin
player, 980 posts
26/31HP AC21 PP21 Crafter
+2/0/2/0/6/1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 18:41
  • msg #688

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Is Claire still unconscious after U'lin's healing word?
That sounds very serious.
Claire Larkspur
player, 813 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 19:54
  • msg #689

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't negative hit points that you need to heal through (in 5e at least), so I should be up!

Disclaimer: any ill effects that I RP out in my post aren't meant to have any formal mechanical basis, and will as GM says, go away with healing and rest. As I mentioned way back, I'm just not a big fan of 'bouncing back up from a near death experience with a jaunty grin'. I feel like getting that close to death should hurt, but I also don't wish to impose that personal writing decision mechanically on other players :)
This message was last edited by the player at 19:55, Tue 03 Nov 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1335 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 22:53
  • msg #690

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I'm the same way when it comes to depicting injuries and behavioral changes based on the game stats.  I mean, there's mechanically no reason or requirement to have Moira staggering around making voluntary CON saving throws every time a stressful event finishes, but it feels right given how exhausted she is.  Same goes for HP - there's nothing in the rules that requires us to present our characters as being anything other than optimized and ready to go so long as we have a single HP left in us, regardless of whether we've just been picked up from the literal brink of one-death-save-left doom.  It just makes for more fun and dramatics.  :3

Speaking of mechanics though, DM - what's the deal with the pit edge and Alaestra?  Do we still need to make the Acrobatics check to scale the pit outside of a combat situation?  And is Alaestra making death saving throws again and thus will require healing/medicine checks?  Or are we in a "okay, the stressful part is over" phase where it's just a given that she's stable and ready to be carried to safety?
GM
GM, 2125 posts
Tue 3 Nov 2020
at 23:05
  • msg #691

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The last part - noncombat situation with a DC 10 with minimal consequences means yea shes safe to carry
Moira Ruadh
player, 1337 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 4 Nov 2020
at 00:14
  • msg #692

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya:


U'lin
player, 982 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Wed 4 Nov 2020
at 18:57
  • msg #693

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Let's talk about the pit!
How far down to the middle?  Might as well check it out before departing, so we can advise the Protector.

as the giant pully/chain giant work or just large warehouse use?

Plan/Thoughts:
- check bottom for clues/magical stuff
- detect magic/sweep warehouse quickly for shinies/lootz/steel supply :)
- see what Moira's friend has to say of what went on/why she was in the pit (OOC anticipating snatched for healing, but U'lin doesn't know about the healing IC, correct?)
- gather bodies to return to keep for mourning/burial
- return to keep to confirm to Protector that gargoyles and construct down, mage confirmed dead, what we learned of the giant theft, numbers cleared out of the section of town/etc.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1338 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 4 Nov 2020
at 23:07
  • msg #694

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sounds like a good set of priorities to me, U'lin.  Especially since the pit has a rather distinct similarity to the first excavation site that was dug up, so there might be some clues/Vonindod scraps lingering around the Fire Giants left behind.  If the pulley doesn't work itself, there's little to keep us from tethering ropes to the back of the Iron Beetle and using that to help folk move up and down as they please, or haul anything that might be at the bottom.

That said, we shouldn't linger too long for the sake of looting or gathering the bodies.  None of that stuff is going anywhere and we don't have time to do a deep exploration into the area beyond a surface-level sweep for anything obvious.  We can - and most certainly will - come back for it in short order.  But Triboar is still under attack and on fire as far as we know, so our priority should be reporting to the Lord Protector so they can deploy troops to get the area under control, as is our mission statement.  We're all pretty tapped at the moment, so it's best that we leave along with the guards and NPCs for our own safety as much as theirs.



So for the sake of efficiency, let's focus on our key needs.  We should probably go with Moira and Claire helping Alaestra to the wagon and seeing if she's in any state to offer an eyewitness statement.  U'lin and Zaiya, meanwhile, can scan the area with a quick investigation to see if they spot anything immediately pressing.  If not - or if they do find something but it doesn't demand their instant response - then we escort the Iron Beetle and make for the Keep.
Claire Larkspur
player, 815 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 08:08
  • msg #695

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Agree with everything said so far. A quick sweep should be in order, with getting back to the safety of the keep close behind in priority. I wouldn't put it past our very thoughtful DM to send a bunch of orcs our way if we hang about too long. :)

I also have basically zero spells, so I'm not going to be terribly useful if anything comes up.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:09, Thu 05 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2129 posts
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 13:57
  • msg #696

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Let's talk about the pit!
How far down to the middle?  Might as well check it out before departing, so we can advise the Protector.

as the giant pully/chain giant work or just large warehouse use?

Plan/Thoughts:
- check bottom for clues/magical stuff
- detect magic/sweep warehouse quickly for shinies/lootz/steel supply :)
- see what Moira's friend has to say of what went on/why she was in the pit (OOC anticipating snatched for healing, but U'lin doesn't know about the healing IC, correct?)
- gather bodies to return to keep for mourning/burial
- return to keep to confirm to Protector that gargoyles and construct down, mage confirmed dead, what we learned of the giant theft, numbers cleared out of the section of town/etc.


The pit is basically a staging platform the central mining shaft. Very deep and very steep, at least a hundred feet down, most of it hard dirt and rock. The remains of various pulley systems and arcane mechanisms around seem to have been the primary means of reaching into the pit. No stairs or ropes or ladders.

There are several long metal chains, presumably for hauling something big and heavy. If you can find a way to secure it somewhere that would work as a rope. Alternatively well, you can try regular rope. No checks required unless trying to climb in/out in a hurry.

Alaestra is very, very out of it- she can answer questions but don't expect much coherence. Anyone with basic medical training can tell she's still in shock.

Anyone going to investigate the pit, go ahead and post your preperations and methods of entry/egress.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1340 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 5 Nov 2020
at 23:08
  • msg #697

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The pit is actually an entire mining shaft and not just a vault like the last one?  Okay, that changes things a bit.  That seems like way too big a job to try and address with our current state of health and time crunch.  Seems like we're best served by a quick Detect Magic and Arcana sweep up on the surface, then hustling on out for the Keep.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 269 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 11:33
  • msg #698

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm inclined to head in if we can, but if things are hot outside still, we might want to put things off.
U'lin
player, 984 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 7 Nov 2020
at 12:49
  • msg #699

Re: OOC Chat - 004

 Think we are just doing look then heading out
We can give bottom a check. If it is mining tunnels, we will leave for later
If just pit at bottom, we can check that
Then head back Up to give check off area for useful salvage, then head bac with the recovered fallen
U'lin
player, 987 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Mon 9 Nov 2020
at 21:42
  • msg #700

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'll hold to give Claire and Moira a chance to weigh in, and Zaiya to decide if she is staying/coming.


U'lin will use guidance on himself, then use the firbolg innate ability to detect magic.  I'm thinking with eyes closed and hand covering the eyes in case of flare, but otherwise doing a search around quickly for anything left behind.

U'lin is looking for fragments (his belt fragment should help), interesting metal works, an idea of the runes (quick sketch, not record the tapestry of ages), magical items/pieces, and any clues/details as to the retrievers (bootprints, markings as to the probe/drill/etc).
Claire Larkspur
player, 818 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 9 Nov 2020
at 23:22
  • msg #701

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire will be staying by the edge of the pit - it's not clear she'll be useful down there in her current state, and someone's got to be ready to hold the rope!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1342 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 10 Nov 2020
at 01:08
  • msg #702

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira's out with the Iron Beetle crew, so all of this is happening well outside of her sphere of influence/awareness at the moment.
GM
GM, 2134 posts
Tue 10 Nov 2020
at 05:58
  • msg #703

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
U'lin will use guidance on himself, then use the firbolg innate ability to detect magic.  I'm thinking with eyes closed and hand covering the eyes in case of flare, but otherwise doing a search around quickly for anything left behind.

U'lin is looking for fragments (his belt fragment should help), interesting metal works,


Gimme a Smithing tools check, modified by Wisdom

U'lin:
an idea of the runes (quick sketch, not record the tapestry of ages), magical items/pieces,


Arcana check, with Advantage

U'lin:
and any clues/details as to the retrievers (bootprints, markings as to the probe/drill/etc).


Perception check, straight roll because the mist + residual magic here seems to make discerning things difficult (so it cancels your advantage from the feat).

You may apply guidance to 1 of these rolls.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 271 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Tue 10 Nov 2020
at 11:20
  • msg #704

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya would help, but honestly you're coming off as a better investigator than she is!
U'lin
player, 988 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 10 Nov 2020
at 16:44
  • msg #705

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
U'lin:
U'lin will use guidance on himself, then use the firbolg innate ability to detect magic.  I'm thinking with eyes closed and hand covering the eyes in case of flare, but otherwise doing a search around quickly for anything left behind.

U'lin is looking for fragments (his belt fragment should help), interesting metal works,
Gimme a Smithing tools check, modified by Wisdom
Although I think the Guidance is more helpful towards the Arcana check, his flaw and focus would really draw it here.
09:38, Today: U'lin rolled 9,1 using d20+7,d4.  Smithing .
Ouch! Just missed double 1s.
Smithing10

GM:
U'lin:
an idea of the runes (quick sketch, not record the tapestry of ages), magical items/pieces,
Arcana check, with Advantage
09:38, Today: U'lin rolled 11,7 using d20+0,d20+0.  Arcana.
Not horrible, but unimpressive again.
Arcana11

GM:
U'lin:
and any clues/details as to the retrievers (bootprints, markings as to the probe/drill/etc).
Perception check, straight roll because the mist + residual magic here seems to make discerning things difficult
09:39, Today: U'lin rolled 15 using 1d20+7.  Perception.
Slightly better, but not amazing.
Percep15

Diceroller not w/ U'lin's investigating today folks.  I expect U'lin will be up shortly empty-handed or close to it.
GM
GM, 2135 posts
Wed 11 Nov 2020
at 05:31
  • msg #706

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sorry about the slow pacing guys. It's a rough two weeks for me right now (end of year crunch).

While waiting around, would be nice to see folks posting tibits about their character in the trivia thread!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1343 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 11 Nov 2020
at 22:18
  • msg #707

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Agreed on trivia.  I want to know more about folk!

GM:
I guess the party is heading back to the keep?

To the Keep!

GM:
You guys may want to start discussing out what to do after.

Well, that sort of depends.  Not to go all meta, but does this boss fight we just finished mark the conclusion of the Triboar conflict as far as the Party is concerned?  Like, once we get back to the Keep are we going to settle in for recovery and a narrative segue of the Triboar military getting things under control in the meantime?  Or are we taking a Short Rest and bouncing right back into action to continue the fight for Triboar (albeit without spell slots)?
U'lin
player, 990 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 00:43
  • msg #708

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Exactly.

We're very close in time to the fire giants being present, so tracking them is a possibility and arguably great need.


If we're in battle/clearing the city, U'lin is very low on spell power, but can certainly help with range cantrips longer term, and keep the save-party spells for emergency.
In addition to the Beetle of course.
GM
GM, 2138 posts
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 01:49
  • msg #709

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hm, as a bit of a headsup, by clearing the gargoyles and dealing with the orcs here you've helped the military significantly.

Things left to do:

1) Fire fighting + rescue (theres still something in the flames...)
2) Tracking (a scouting team has gone after the fire giants. They have yet to return)
3) Revenge (the remains of the attacking force are still nearby. The Lord Protector will see them destroyed)
4) Investigation (Hyuth is dead, but his tower still stands...)

Obviously, persuing one will lock off the others (depending on how much time passes), and your choices on what to prioritize will have an impact on the eventual fate of Triboar tonight :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1344 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 02:12
  • msg #710

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Since tracking the Fire Giants means leaving Triboar - and thus abandoning all other options to help - that sounds pretty off-the-table in my opinion.  Besides, the Party is in no condition to confront a single Fire Giant, let alone two.

My vote on priorities would be Firefighting/Rescue and Revenge.  We can drive out the remnants of the invading Orcs as we go along extinguishing fires, and focusing on these tasks helps Triboar at large and ensures we'll have the back-up of the military in the process.

Investigating Hyuth's tower would be a secondary priority.  We have to make sure it doesn't burn down first, though sending a group of guards to post up outside it and make sure it doesn't get looted once we have everything under control would be a good idea.  We can delve into investigating it after we've all had the chance to Long Rest since, unless there's more magic at play that I'm not aware of, the tower likely isn't going anywhere.  We might be able to hit the Tower tonight if we can at least squeeze in a Short Rest somewhere, though even that's pushing it.

Tracking the Fire Giants would be the last priority since it risks leading to a direct confrontation which, at this point, would basically be asking for a TPK.  By the time we get around to it, it would more likely be a case of "recover what's left of the scouting team the next morning", if history is any precedent so far.  I sincerely doubt we have any chance of catching up to the Fire Giants at all without making chasing them down our sole priority, and that's just not an option so long as we have Stoor, Thente, and Emma with the wagon.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:14, Thu 12 Nov 2020.
U'lin
player, 991 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 02:39
  • msg #711

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Hm, as a bit of a headsup, by clearing the gargoyles and dealing with the orcs here you've helped the military significantly.

Things left to do:

1) Fire fighting + rescue (theres still something in the flames...)
2) Tracking (a scouting team has gone after the fire giants. They have yet to return)
3) Revenge (the remains of the attacking force are still nearby. The Lord Protector will see them destroyed)
4) Investigation (Hyuth is dead, but his tower still stands...)

Obviously, persuing one will lock off the others (depending on how much time passes), and your choices on what to prioritize will have an impact on the eventual fate of Triboar tonight :)

While U'lin's interest is highest in the tracking, I'd agree we're too beat up and low resource to try it without a long rest and some spellup/healing.
A priority for tomorrow?  You bet.

Revenge reads like something for the military forces en banc, not specialists/adventurers that are beaten down.

I'd agree that investigation would be better with more resources, and doesn't strike as priority.  Certainly of interest, but harder to justify if people are still dying.

I'd agree that U'lin's assessment would be to address the firecreature/burning, as it's the greatest danger to the city entire.  Protecting the tower as part of that would certainly be prudent.

Overnight rest/recover.
Morning, check out the tower, send word of any discoveries, but continue on the tracking of the giants.  If we have the scouts to help, all the better, but between Moira's stealth, Emma's nose, U'lin's eyes, Zaiya's divination/knowledge, Claire's speed and connection w/ Glory... tracking does seem to put us as good options for the tracking down.
Zaiya's magical knowledge would likely put us high on priorities to clear the Tower before we depart.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1345 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 02:51
  • msg #712

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Revenge reads like something for the military forces en banc, not specialists/adventurers that are beaten down.


Agreed by and large - I meant it as an attached priority to firefighting.  Assuming there's still Orcs/Ogres/Etc running around town, the Party would be there to help handle any big threats that show up during the process of putting out fires and recovering survivors.  Even weakened, they're still a better forward defense than NPCs alone.

Seconded that the tower investigation first thing in the morning sounds like a plan.  As for who's necessary there, it depends on how dangerous the tower is.  Like, if it's trapped or has critters then we're all going in ready to throw down.  But if it's just basically a "skill check dungeon" where there's no actual danger, then it might be safe to split the party so that U'lin and Zaiya can handle the tower while Moira and Claire do some Fire Giant tracking.

We'll likely have lost the Fire Giants entirely by that point and will be focusing on finding the scouting team.  But even after that, we need to focus on getting Stoor revived and making some more solid contact with SEER again.  Everything we've learned in Triboar so far is too much for a Sending Stone message to handle.  With luck, hitting that big story milestone will get us into a better position to be proactive about the Giants and maybe head off the Fire Giants on their way to their next destination rather than just playing catch-up with them all the time.

Additionally to all this, we have some personal affairs to handle in Triboar.  Moira and Claire both have business with Foehammer, and Moira has her friend Alaestra to address as well.  Depending on how things go, we may be in Triboar for another day or two anyway.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:53, Thu 12 Nov 2020.
U'lin
player, 992 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 04:21
  • msg #713

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Very leery about splitting the party.
-  Not just that we're putting Moira and Claire into the greatest danger, and without BOTH the primary casters.
- And been properly punished for splitting the party before.
- U'lin would be hard-pressed to stay behind from the Fire Giants, when he's the closest tie we have to the giant race (without Thente), and has been pushing to track them for interest on several items/needs perceived.

Leaving the Fire Giants a second time.. that's a tough, tough sell.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1346 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 04:39
  • msg #714

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'd only put splitting the party on the table so long as there was no combat to be had for either group.  As in, if the tower is just skill checks without any threats, and the tracking is just finding the trail/the Triboar scouting party.  If either case provides evidence that there's danger afoot, we keep together.



As an aside from the day plans and regarding the Fire Giants: have we ever actually discussed why U'lin is so keen on meeting up with them?  I mean, I know the general meta reason since they're core to the current Giant-Superweapon-Plot.  But, like, what's U'lin's end goal?  Is it just intellectual curiosity, or does he have an otherwise unmentioned connection, or is he hoping to gain something by involving himself directly with the Giants?

Moira, for example - her desire to square up with Giants is to try and put a stop to the whole civil unrest situation, as well as hold someone accountable for Nightstone and all the resulting chaos they've been dealing with.
U'lin
player, 993 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 05:22
  • msg #715

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin has a relic that requires fire giant information, so he is curious about their information to be provided - and with his flaw, very interested.

Making it exponentially greater, U'lin's entire trip down has been motivated to learn of an ancient artifact fragment that he found in the woods by the mountains.  And we have learned about it, and U'lin found a second fragment in the first giant vault, and the fire giants have two great pieces taken for their construction.  Again in reference with his flaw.

Re the giant problem generally, we've been seeing the issues of the giants running amok, focused on their goals to exclusion of anything else.  The fire giants restoring a gargantuan golem so dangerous that the ancient giants found they had to break it apart and hide it with every magical defence they could, despite the horrible sacrifices of its creation... that is both a horrible moth-to-flame and a need to protect the world against an apocalypse in the making.


U'lin supports the party goals, but in comparison to the last threat... they mean very little (certainly including his own).
If you could possibly stop a nuclear war, but ignored it to solve a family feud... knowing you could have saved thousands of lives.. a tough sell.


U'lin's only tie in Triboar was wrt the dwarven smith, but he was so offputting that U'lin has no interest in speaking with him further - offensive to the core of U'lin.

I'm presuming no church/shrine of Gond in Triboar?
Claire Larkspur
player, 819 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 06:39
  • msg #716

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira:
Moira and Claire both have business with Foehammer, and Moira has her friend Alaestra to address as well.  Depending on how things go, we may be in Triboar for another day or two anyway

This actually. Claire definitely wants to talk more with Foehammer to learn more about her dad.

Regarding the next big task the party should set out on, I'd go with a rest first, at least a short one, but preferably a long rest.

After that, we could see what the Lord Protector or other sources indicate about the wider situation. For all we know, we might wake up from the long rest to hear that the scouting party has been found or that soldiers have already investigated the tower (perhaps as a direct result of us having discovered what we have). That could narrow our options considerably.

That's what I feel Claire would go for anyhow. Part of my characterization for her is that she's in many ways kind of a regular person, who's very much subject to pain, fear, laziness, hunger, etc, as much as she's also guided by faith and higher principles. Very 'human' (because she literally is one!). Saving lives is great and all, but for now she's like 'I NEED TO LIE DOWN'. XD

I'm quite sanguine about any possible party splits, if only because my hunch is that it's a high-risk, high-reward move rather than something the GM necessarily *will* punish.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:21, Thu 12 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2139 posts
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 07:21
  • msg #717

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If no one has any comments about U'lins exploration of the vault, I will move you guys back to the command post in a bit :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1347 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 07:21
  • msg #718

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
Saving lives is great and all, but for now she's like 'I NEED TO LIE DOWN'. XD


I definitely feel that.  ^^  Moira's been showing more signs of fatigue because she actually has levels of Exhaustion on her, but Claire (and the poor horses!) has been up just as many consecutive nights without sleep.  Definitely in need of some genuine and deserved rest.

DM - Moira's good to go.  All the vault exploration stuff is pretty well over her head and she's more set on the immediate boots-on-the-ground concerns at the moment.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:22, Thu 12 Nov 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 272 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 11:45
  • msg #719

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, Zaiya can toss two fireballs out if need be (One from her last level 3 slot, one from the scroll), but after that she's mostly down to bad language and webs/grease.

She'd certainly help get things under control if still needed though.
GM
GM, 2140 posts
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 12:31
  • msg #720

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
I'm quite sanguine about any possible party splits, if only because my hunch is that it's a high-risk, high-reward move rather than something the GM necessarily *will* punish.


I want to emphasize this - I do not actively seek to punish splitting the party. I generally plan scenarios out before hand, and let the party's actions fall where they may. While there is a degree of improvisation I rarely lean it towards "making things harder".

The Uthgradt w/ the pit scenario for example, was planned to happen even if you did not split the party, given enough time passing. Had the wards still been up and the party in a position of strength (full members, not inside a pit) it may have been possible to negotiate with them to deal with the elemental. The caveat of course, is that the delay would have endangered the life of the NPCs in the pit. And there was a chance that negotiations would fail.
U'lin
player, 994 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 14:46
  • msg #721

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Claire Larkspur:
I'm quite sanguine about any possible party splits, if only because my hunch is that it's a high-risk, high-reward move rather than something the GM necessarily *will* punish.
I want to emphasize this - I do not actively seek to punish splitting the party. I generally plan scenarios out before hand, and let the party's actions fall where they may. While there is a degree of improvisation I rarely lean it towards "making things harder".
This.
I don't believe the DM rubs his hands gleefully at chance to bring horde of dragons down upon the head of someone who goes alone to the privy.  Very challenging encounters can become lethal very quickly at double the odds, or very punishing at the least.
"Chips fall as they may" tends to equate to "PCs drop as they will." :p

IC-wise, a couple ppl checking the tower while two others check warehouses - riskier, but time-saving.
2 checking tower while 2 venture into unknown, far away from support, tracking/risking engaging with two huge dangers, each much more dangerous than any of the near-lethal encounters earlier, and supported by at least better tracking hellhounds, and potentially supported by a chunk of army and cavalry, and, oh, just the small risk of shamans and spellcasters if the giants were not the ones using the scrolls...

... how does one put this delicately?
:p
GM
GM, 2142 posts
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 15:16
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea thats the high-risk part. I think giving you guys the option to do stuff like that is part of the game - heroics tend to arise more from sticky situations after all :P

Also I hope this starts making the value of intelligence gathering tools and intelligence gathering spells (COUGH DIVINER COUGH) more visible. One of my pet peeves with other dnd games I've run is the assumption that scouting and gathering information doesn't do anything.

You guys have been excellent about it so far though, making good use of contacts and asking around town (which is about what can be expected at T1), so no issues from me here. But I've had parties that just try to bumrush things and wonder why it doesn't always go their way.
Claire Larkspur
player, 820 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 12 Nov 2020
at 18:24
  • msg #723

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Plus, even if we end up undertaking a higher risk venture, there are still things we can do to mitigate some risks. We could always try to run away for instance! This would likely be very manageable if it's just one human and one halfling on a horse. We just have to rule out straight up brawls unless we're reasonably certain the odds are in our favour. Worst case scenario, if even after taking all our precautions we still get KOed, it just means someone has to come rescue us. :)

In general, I like the idea of occasionally taking some big risks because writing heroic victories (and defeats) are super fun, and a great way to develop 'young' characters like Claire. That said, Claire's also not looking to get killed, so going with more conservative options is also very well and good.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 273 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 13 Nov 2020
at 20:02
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hey now, I'm working on them!  Just that we've been kind of running from disaster to disaster which has influenced Zaiya's spell picks and memorizations :D
GM
GM, 2143 posts
Sat 14 Nov 2020
at 16:50
  • msg #725

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Updates will be delayed again. Kinda burnt out this weekend :<
U'lin
player, 996 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 14 Nov 2020
at 16:56
  • msg #726

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Updates will be delayed again. Kinda burnt out this weekend :<

Thanks for letting us know.
This game is far, far, far too well done to have you burn out!

Cheers!
GM
GM, 2145 posts
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 11:25
  • msg #727

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So! Tasha's is out!

I have preordered and will get the book soonish.

If any of you are interested in the spells/feats/subclasses there, I believe ther are uh. Sources around the internet you can pursue.

In any case! If you want to utilize any of the features from the book, I'm willing to enable a 1-time character rebuild (subject to reason ofc). PM if interested!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1349 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 16:44
  • msg #728

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm excited for Tasha's Cauldron and, if everything goes well, I'll have my own copy in by later today.  :3
U'lin
player, 997 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 16:51
  • msg #729

Re: OOC Chat - 004

oh nice.. holding for my copy to arrive at FLGS.
GM
GM, 2146 posts
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 16:59
  • msg #730

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I still waiting for mine - shipments outside the US are slower. I'm currently working off online copies, but if you guys have stuff you want and have the book already by all means copy me in and I'll see :)

Incidentally, is there anyone with opinions on what to pursue? The Lord Protector has given her opinion - any questions for her?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1350 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 17:03
  • msg #731

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I was going to have Moira chime in sooner than later on the options.  I would've done so sooner, but it's been a rough past couple days and my sleeping schedule is absolutely shot from pulling a few all-nighters.  I didn't actually get any decent rest until just last night and wasn't really in any state to be doing effective creative writing.  ^^;

As things have been presented, Moira's inclined to suggest the party help with putting out fires since it's local work, and both herself and Zaiya are Fire Resistant.  Plus whatever is spawning the fire critters is no doubt a Giant trinket that U'lin might be able to put to use if we can recover it.  If everyone is feeling up to it afterward, heading after the regrouping Orc band for a cavalry charge/assassination would be next on the list.
U'lin
player, 998 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 17:18
  • msg #732

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I agree on the fire suppression.
Doesn't make much sense to tackle the army remnant while hurt and underpowered, and into risky and unknown numbers and powers... while the city burns away behind us?  Uh.

Interesting thought on the anchor being a reusable item, Moira - good thought.  I presumed spell, but item could be interesting.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1351 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 17:38
  • msg #733

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Who knows?  Maybe it's something that can be used to produce perpetual heat/fire like Moira's cooking cauldron, and he could turn it into the core of a steam engine for the Iron Beetle?  :3
U'lin
player, 999 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 17 Nov 2020
at 17:49
  • msg #734

Re: OOC Chat - 004

exactly my thoughts once you kindled that idea (if the pun can be forgiven).

"Save a horse - ride an elemental-steam-driven war carriage" - this year's top ten Big & Rich bard songs?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1353 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 18 Nov 2020
at 02:45
  • msg #735

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Aww yeah, copy of Tasha's is in.

Customizing Your Origin:
Ability Score Increases
You may ignore your ASI trait and assign ability score increases tailored to your character.  Take any ability score increase you gain in your race or subrace and apply it to an ability score of your choice.  If you gain more than one increase, you can't apply those increases to the same ability score, and you can't increase a score above 20.


Custom Lineage Variant:
Instead of choosing one of the game's races for your character at 1st level, you can use the following traits to represent your character's lineage, giving you full control over how your character's origin shaped them:

Creature Type: You are a humanoid.  You determine your appearance and whether you resemble any of your kin.

Size: You are Small or Medium (your choice).

Speed: Your base walking speed is 30 feet.

Ability Score Increase: One ability score of your choice increases by 2.

Feat: You gain one feat of your choice for which you qualify.

Variable Trait: You gain one of the following options of your choice: (a) Darkvision with a range of 60 feet or (b) proficiency in one skill of your choice.

Languages: You can speak, read, and write Common and one other language that you and your DM agree is appropriate for your class.




Additionally, there's rules for changing skills and even subclasses mid-game through character driven events.  There's also a neat addition of being able to swap out Proficiencies, which I actually really like.  For example, Moira being a Rogue gives her Proficiency with Longswords - a weapon she will never use because, as a dual-wielder, she'd never be able to make use of its Versatile property.  So using the proficiency swap, I could trade out proficiency with the Longsword for proficiency with any other simple/martial weapon or a tool.

With this sort of thing in mind, I'd absolutely be down for a mild rework on Moira since, given her stat distribution being so focused already, using the "Custom Lineage" variant rule would basically just give her a free Feat and Skill Proficiency, and boost her base speed to 30', without changing anything else.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:07, Wed 18 Nov 2020.
U'lin
player, 1000 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Wed 18 Nov 2020
at 03:12
  • msg #736

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Still waiting here.... hrmmm.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1354 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 18 Nov 2020
at 03:37
  • msg #737

Re: OOC Chat - 004

lol, I love one of the spells in this book.  "Blade of Disaster", which is a 9th-level Wizard combat spell.  It's literally the Ragna Blade from the old anime "The Slayers", and I'm 100% for it.
GM
GM, 2147 posts
Wed 18 Nov 2020
at 03:38
  • msg #738

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm comfortable with proficiency swaps- I dislike people feeling like they need to dip for specific proficiencies, and even abused its not any worse than someone going full bard "all the skills".

Lineages I'll need to read the the chapter for myself before I can decide if its an optional rule I'm comfortable with. I have only 2nd hand info on it for now- my main concern is if its a pure mechanical buff without any associated costs or roleplaying effects.

Spells and feats are all okay by default. Personally, I'm excited for some of the summon spells :)

I'll let Claire and Zaiya chime in, but assuming there isn't strong opposition I'll update and move you guys on later today.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1355 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 18 Nov 2020
at 03:46
  • msg #739

Re: OOC Chat - 004

What I wrote in that earlier post is pretty much all there is to it.  The section on new character creation rules is only about 1 page long, while the Custom Lineage variant rule is just a corner blurb that I copied down in its entirety.

The extent of new character creation allows you to:

1) ASI - Swap your ASI as written earlier.
2) Languages - Swap any language you gain as a racial feat with another.
3) Proficiency - Swap racial proficiency amid different categories of weapons/armor/tools/skills.
4) Skills and Subclasses - Swap already-existing skill proficiency and subclasses during gameplay with DM approval, following a suitable in-character event involving a Training Time period or a supernatural Sudden Change.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:03, Thu 19 Nov 2020.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 274 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 19 Nov 2020
at 04:01
  • msg #740

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Back home from work, I'm going to be occupied much of tomorrow moving from my old shitty room to a proper 1 bedroom apartment, but afterwards the rest of the next couple weeks should be good times!
Claire Larkspur
player, 823 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 21 Nov 2020
at 17:40
  • msg #741

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The tunnels sound promising, what do we think of taking that route?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 275 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 21 Nov 2020
at 18:05
  • msg #742

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Move is complete save for the unpacking, there's some nagging little irritants all over the place here and there on account of it being an older building in an area that hasn't been lived in for a while, but having actual legroom is a boon like you wouldn't believe.
U'lin
player, 1003 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 21 Nov 2020
at 21:00
  • msg #743

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
The tunnels sound promising, what do we think of taking that route?

Fine here, tho it is the unknown v. known dangers.
It seems faster, in theory.

Flip side, no fire reduction, tho I think the governing thought would be remove the anchor effect, stop the fire reinforcements?
U'lin
player, 1005 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 21 Nov 2020
at 21:19
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Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
OOC:3) RE: Flour bombs and explosionsOut of character: Flour bombs won't really work - just launching a sack of flour at a fire won't create a dust explosion - you need the air to be saturated with a minimal amount of particles first, then start the fire.
That isn't quite correct.
I used to do fire demonstrations for a science centre, and you do not need the fire last.  In fact, it's much safer if the fire is active first, and you're controlling the time and input of the fuel particles.  I did an average of two shows a day for quite some time. :)

GM:
Also even if it did explode, the shockwave generated would not be strong enough - while there are modern approaches to putting out oil fires using explosives, note that these are modern explosives, with extremely high yields that I do not think a regular dust explosion can match.
Less seeking the massive explosion shockwave, and more looking for a momentary break of the trinity.  Less effective in open area, better in closed.  Burn off the good air before the fire destroys everything, then book it through the building to the next, etc.

However, DM ruling no-go, so idea withdrawn.
GM
GM, 2151 posts
Sun 22 Nov 2020
at 02:49
  • msg #745

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If you can link me one or two videos + resources to convince me U'lin, I might change my mind.

My understanding from the research I did before responding was that the explosion was created by dust particles saturating the air in a confined space. So I assume just throwing a sack of flour at an open fire won't be enough to create an explosion.

If you can find some sort of demo video where the dust explosion surpresses the fire, even temporarily, along with something that shows just hurling a sack of flour at an open fire in an open space causes said explosion, I'll be inclined to say it works.

Part of me wonders how a firbolg in a fantasy world would know the specifics of this scientific interaction for extinguishing flames (right down to the technique of oxygen starving a fire by displacing air). But lets just call it divine inspiration (or "Gondites record everything, even seemingly useless interactions").
U'lin
player, 1006 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 22 Nov 2020
at 03:05
  • msg #746

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Might have a video around but don’t worry on it
Heh, still have fun remembering the expression on everything when you blew the small building.

I agree that’s it is too technical for the fantasy game
Moira Ruadh
player, 1359 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 22 Nov 2020
at 03:33
  • msg #747

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Part of me wonders how a firbolg in a fantasy world would know the specifics of this scientific interaction for extinguishing flames (right down to the technique of oxygen starving a fire by displacing air). But lets just call it divine inspiration (or "Gondites record everything, even seemingly useless interactions").


I mean, to be perfectly fair, real-world people have understood how to manage fire on a technical level pretty much since shortly after they figured out how to make it.  They've been aware of the issues of combustible particles since there's been flour mills around to catch sparks and explode in the first place, and even if they don't necessarily know the exact terminology or more in-depth science we identify these days, they still knew the basic principles well enough.

Plus this isn't a real-world parallel medieval period - it's the Forgotten Realms.  We've got Artificers and Gnomes running around building fairly advanced clockwork machines, magical constructs, black powder firearms, and so forth.  I'd say folk in Faerun have a pretty advanced grasp of fundamental science if they're in the trade circles for it.  That's not even getting into the more wild stuff like some of the artifact devices that exist in the setting, one of which is literally just the control panel of a hyper-advanced alien spaceship some mad baron uncovered from a crash site and used to build a reality-warping war machine.
GM
GM, 2153 posts
Sun 22 Nov 2020
at 03:46
  • msg #748

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm fair point. Rather than having the knowledge not exist, might be better that the knowledge is not widespread- information is hoarded or easily lost. Knowledge isn't as highly valued by the common folk.

I'll probably go with they know that they need to do it but not always the why. So Ulins suggestion of using flour bombs to kill flames makes no sense to them. They get that flour explodes, but maybe not why that would kill a flame.

This post is more for myself, to set how future npcs react. Any comments?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1361 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 22 Nov 2020
at 04:03
  • msg #749

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Seems reasonable.  People would generally have pretty in-depth knowledge about their given trade or trades directly associated with it, but because of how much time they focus on their own daily affairs and how limited long range communication is, it makes sense everyone would sort of be hyper-focused on their own stuff.  So a Soldier like the Triboar guards here would be suitably informed about how to maintain and repair their weapons/armor, but probably not about the techniques of how to make them in the first place unless they had some kind of upbringing in such craftsmanship prior.  Or they might know something that's become common knowledge but not necessarily understand why that thing works the way it does.
U'lin
player, 1007 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 22 Nov 2020
at 19:06
  • msg #750

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Makes sense
GM
GM, 2154 posts
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 02:18
  • msg #751

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm, is anyone waiting on me for some confirmation? Otherwise, please go ahead and make your checks/approaches for the initial approach to the flames.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 276 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 07:28
  • msg #752

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Just woke up a bit back, let me chew this over and figure out if I noticed anything new.
GM
GM, 2155 posts
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 12:11
  • msg #753

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Fire Resistance mostly helps in the case you guys take fire damage. Its a passive ability, not one that I can see contributing to Navigation or Movement without something else in the mix.

I'm guessing people are stumped as to how to approach a Skill Challenge? Would some elaboration help?

The reason I'm leaving things open is for you guys to tell me how you intend to mitigate the dangers of running through the burning streets. Moira's post is a bog standard example - acrobatics to serve as an advance scout isn't anything off the wall, but it works perfectly well and plays into her strengths. I imagine other skills are plausible as well- Investigation/Perception for spotting gaps in the flame, maybe Athletics to help clear paths...etc. Feel free to come up with something interesting!

For Zaiya specifically, if you use magic in a way that might contribute, it'll either be an Arcana check or straight up a success, depending on what you suggest. Like, if U'lin had Create Water using it to douse/flood a path through the fires would count for at least two automatic successes. Something like Mold Earth to dampen flames would be anything from an Arcana check to one automatic success, depending on how you describe it to me.

As a more general rule when DMing, I'm more inclined to reward interesting approaches with good justification. Don't just tell me "I wanna mold earth soil to put out the flames" - give me a description, a dance, a demonstration of how your magic can have the effect you want. A good description would "convince" me enough that the check won't be required. But if you can't think of a good reason, then the check is needed as a substitute. This is a story, and I am as much an audience as you are. If you can "sell" me on your idea, then its less likely to get rejected. Logic, drama or just plain rule of cool- all are viable approaches.

The mechanics are there as a fallback, and we can always use them if you prefer. But the intent of the skill challenge is for you guys to try to flex some creative approaches. I understand my reaction to U'lins post might make it seem like I'm only open to one real solution, but that's not the intention, and I hope that didn't put people off :<
Moira Ruadh
player, 1362 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 12:30
  • msg #754

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Fire Resistance might contribute in lowering a given DC when it comes to moving amid the fire, as those of us who have it can naturally get closer to the flames and move more safely than those without.  We could potentially move into more advantageous spots given the greater range of defense we have against the heat.

Something else that might help are damage cantrips, like Acid Splash or Firebolt.  Stuff's already on fire and being wrecked, so blasting it out of the way here and there to help clear a path or knock a potential collapse in a different direction isn't going to do much more harm.  Prestidigitation as well - it's certainly not strong enough to put out fires of this magnitude, but it might be able to help at least stifle flare-ups or help clear a path if there are several cantrips working together at the same spot.
GM
GM, 2156 posts
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 13:01
  • msg #755

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Fire Resistance might contribute in lowering a given DC when it comes to moving amid the fire, as those of us who have it can naturally get closer to the flames and move more safely than those without.  We could potentially move into more advantageous spots given the greater range of defense we have against the heat.


This makes sense.

Would you guys prefer if I made the DCs for the skill challenge public?

Interesting suggestions on the spells. I'm not sure about firebolt blasting something out of the way, since the spell doesn't mention concussive force, but acid splash makes perfect sense. Prestidigitation could work to enable some sort action as per what Moira describes, and was one of the things I was expecting when I set up this scenario.
Claire Larkspur
player, 825 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 23 Nov 2020
at 19:11
  • msg #756

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Gonna be somewhat busy this week due to fast-approaching PhD deadlines, but will try to get a couple of posts in.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1363 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 12:05
  • msg #757

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No worries on the slowed pacing coming through at the moment.  Games here on RPOL always slow down in this time of year because of the holidays and other end-of-the-year scheduling - I can't imagine it'll be any different even with the pandemic situation at hand.  So long as we all keep in touch throughout each week and don't let the game fall into a holding pattern, it should be fine.
GM
GM, 2158 posts
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 12:36
  • msg #758

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I believe we had a similar conversation last year :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1364 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 12:40
  • msg #759

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Likely, and I think it's a good sign to have it each year since that means it worked and we're still going another year strong.  :3
U'lin
player, 1009 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 24 Nov 2020
at 13:18
  • msg #760

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hopefully not the same computer issues next year!  Broken power jack on my laptop, on Friday in small town, so no repair until late - and that was lucky enough, as I was fearful of no laptop until city run!  Whew.

On other news, the little's 3yo birthday "party" went very well, and we are (sadly) also drowned in too many gifts for the little girl.  Daddy has already experienced two improvised caltrops in the night, and done a kazillion changes of Barbie dresses, help dolls in/out of their car, and all the repair work of very strong but clumsy hands :)
GM
GM, 2160 posts
Thu 26 Nov 2020
at 15:51
  • msg #761

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So the eggs thing is really interesting and something I would have rewarded if you had ran it past me first. The post you made (getting the materials, assuming they arrive, assuming they have the effect you intend...etc) is only borderline acceptable because you didn't immediately assume any mechanical benefit.

Even so, in the future I would ask you check in with me in a PM before assuming that the villagers would have the materials, the materials would work the way you want, and then describing an obvious in game effect without running any of it past the DM. Just 2-3 questions ("would there be tanners...etc with access to volatile chemicals. would there be loose eggs, can i craft those into explosives? would those work to dispel flames like the flour?"), some confirmation from me, and the post would have been fine.

For the sake of keeping things moving, I've largely arbitrated it the way I think I would have given it to you, though with the caveat that you spent a significant amount of time waiting around + crafting. I did not describe the Magmin attacks in the post to keep things light, but you may assume at least 2-3 happened while U'lin was making the eggs - they were immediately dealt with by a dozens of crossbow bolts.
U'lin
player, 1010 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 26 Nov 2020
at 16:03
  • msg #762

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sorry, DM.  You had posted to make the effect happen, with description, so that's what I did.
GM:
Don't just tell me "I wanna mold earth soil to put out the flames" - give me a description, a dance, a demonstration of how your magic can have the effect you want. A good description would "convince" me enough that the check won't be required... If you can "sell" me on your idea, then its less likely to get rejected. Logic, drama or just plain rule of cool- all are viable approaches.
Perhaps I rushed things because of being computer-denied the weekend, as checking re availability/option seems more normal, but that was also why I suggested several options for ANYTHING to provide something workable, and didn't specify if it did anything or not.

Just trying to keep moving.  I should have sent the post to you in PM first for ok, fair, and you could have reposted it publicly if it was.

GM:
ven so, in the future I would ask you check in with me in a PM before assuming...
Yup.
GM
GM, 2161 posts
Thu 26 Nov 2020
at 16:20
  • msg #763

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah okay, the nuance here is that it wasn't a single action but a chain of actions. Plus the result should not be automatically assumed - admittedly this is more phrasing than anything.

For example, assuming U'lin already had an egg grenade and it was established that an egg grenade explodes, creating a shockwave. A post describing the shockwave, the resulting noise, the displaced air, ending with "in hopes of snuffing out the flames by starving them of much needed air" or maybe "attempting to clear the way through sheer force" is okay. The choice of phrasing here is important - you aren't assuming that you attempt was successful, but you are stating your intended result and the reason why you think it would work.

"in hopes of snuffing out the flames" versus "thus snuffing out the flames".

The chain of actions was because to get the egg grenade, U'lin needed to do several things:

-get the materials
-craft the materials
-clarify that the materials will behave the way he intends

While the "mold earth" example, the spell is there. The effects (move x amount of earth) don't require additional clarification beyond perhaps "is there dirt here that I can move with mold earth?".

quote:
Just trying to keep moving.  I should have sent the post to you in PM first for ok, fair, and you could have reposted it publicly if it was.


Here in the OOC chat is fine too!

I hope this doesn't discourage you, its a great idea and a good build off the flour bomb parts! I see how my initial post must have misled you with what I wanted. Do tell me if this clarifies things, if you have further questions, if this is making things too complicated...etc
U'lin
player, 1011 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 26 Nov 2020
at 18:10
  • msg #764

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Nah, nah... just didn't want you to think I was up to hinkyness - was trying to go with what I thought was your lead :)

Certainly wouldn't have written in a travelling merchant coming up with my shopping list, but a large town/city with something from any of a number of locations or professions?  That seemed realistic to describe.  Yet certainly could have been an egg famine or something :p
This message was last edited by the player at 18:12, Thu 26 Nov 2020.
GM
GM, 2162 posts
Sun 29 Nov 2020
at 12:08
  • msg #765

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Update: I will not be available until the 4th of December due to heavy workloads and things being on fire.

Less not enough time and more I'm too tired to write stuff.

In other news, still waiting on my copy of Tasha's to arrive.

Also peanut mochi is delicious and gives me strength.

Hope everyone's doing well this holiday season :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1365 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 29 Nov 2020
at 12:41
  • msg #766

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thanks for the heads up.  I've been a bit preoccupied with the holiday stuff and frankly being really under-rested as of late.  ^^;  Plus I'm anxiously waiting for December 10th when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out, as I fully intend on vanishing into that game for a solid week if I can help it.

As for Tasha's - I have my copy on hand if anyone needs a reference for things.  Additionally, 5etools has updated their site with the new Tasha's content as well.

https://5e.tools/5etools.html

Nothing much I'd use for Moira since they didn't really modify the core Rogue class beyond an additional Class Feature to make getting Sneak Attack on ranged attacks easier.  They added in a lot of neat class options that the rest of the party could surely make good use of though, especially for Clerics and Paladins being able to recharge their spell slots by burning a Channel Divinity use.  Though I'd certainly take advantage of the Custom Lineage variant to net Moira a free Feat and Darkvision.  There are some interesting new Feats, including an official "Chef" Feat for making food with beneficial status effects.  It's only a frankly meager pittance of improved Short Rest healing or Temporary HP, but still.

Some of the more interesting Feats they introduced are basically "diet multiclass" options.  There were already a few like "Magic Initiate" which let even melee characters dip their toes into a little bit of a magic class for a few minor tricks.  But they've expanded on that to cover more class samplings for Artificer, Warlock, Sorcerous Metamagic, and even Fighter.  Plus they've expanded further on mundane damage types for melee specialists to make their attacks more potent.  The "Eldritch Adept" Feat is really interesting because, instead of giving you access to the Warlock spell list, it gives you access to an Invocation of your choice that you meet the level/class requirements for.  Which, if you ask me, is substantially more useful than just getting Eldritch Blast like everyone usually does.

GM:
Also peanut mochi is delicious and gives me strength.

I'll see your peanut mochi and raise you a red bean mochi.  Doubly so if it's a red bean daifuku bun with a cold can of milk coffee.  I always buy a very specific set of snacks from my local Japanese grocery.  :3
U'lin
player, 1012 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 29 Nov 2020
at 14:09
  • msg #767

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
GM:
Also peanut mochi is delicious and gives me strength.

I'll see your peanut mochi and raise you a red bean mochi.  Doubly so if it's a red bean daifuku bun with a cold can of milk coffee.  I always buy a very specific set of snacks from my local Japanese grocery.  :3
Hate you both.  Grin.
No Japanese groceries out here - been waiting weeks to even restock any Australian Ginger Beers.

Received my copy of Tasha's as well.

A number of folk were upset that Tasha's felt 'thin', because they added elements to so very many areas, that the per-area was less.  I thought it a very nice book overall, nice art, and new features for many elements.


The creation bard doesn't have the permanent aspect of the forge cleric, but its much faster use, higher cap - and I think much more practical use for PCs/adventurers.


Like Moira re the rogue, the priests didn't gain much, tho couple new paths - but that conversion of Channel Divinity is nice - especially in this campaign!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1366 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 29 Nov 2020
at 22:59
  • msg #768

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I got the feeling a lot of people hyped themselves up into thinking Tasha's was going to be a full-bore second Player's Handbook in terms of content density.  It's really more of a DM's resource, all things considered, but I rather like the additions it does bring and the improvements to gameplay it canonizes.  It shows the devs are paying attention to refining 5e's experience rather than just adding content on for content's sake, which is what led to 3/3.5e's downfall.

In terms of class updates, I really like that they expanded the versatility of spellcasters' available spell options.  I play a Druid in another game and now having access to Revivify makes them vastly more suited as a secondary healer to take pressure off the Clerics.  I like all the new items too since they're all really flavorful, though I'm not sure about the inclusion of Artifact-tier items amid the list.  That sort of content feels like it should've been its own section to me.  All the unique Wizard tomes are neat though; having individual spellbooks tailored for each school of magic just makes sense.
U'lin
player, 1014 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 29 Nov 2020
at 23:31
  • msg #769

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Completely agree on all points, Moira.

I did like what they did with the Artificier, in terms of making it feel meaty.  The half-speed casting I generally don't go wild over, but the abilities are very interesting, and could be solid PC or NPC.  Encouraging towards future new classes being more than just a reskinning of another class.
Claire Larkspur
player, 827 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 05:42
  • msg #770

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Apologies for being quiet here too, but rest assured I haven't disappeared. On the bright side, 5 PhD applications down, 3-5 more to go!

I'm kind of interested to learn more about potential paladin options. Burning Channel Divinity to regain spell slots would be really useful, since one can never have too many smites.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1367 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 30 Nov 2020
at 09:18
  • msg #771

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Paladin Optional Class Features
Additional Paladin Spells:
2nd-Level Paladin feature
The spells in the following list expand the paladin spell list in the Player's Handbook.  The list is organized by spell level, not character level.

2nd Level
Gentle Repose
Prayer of Healing
Warding Bond

3rd Level
Spirit Shroud - https://5e.tools/spells.html#spirit%20shroud_tce

5th Level
Summon Celestial - https://5e.tools/spells.html#summon%20celestial_tce


Fighting Style Options:
2nd-level Paladin feature
When you choose a fighting style, the following styles are added to your list of options.

Blessed Warrior
You learn two cantrips of your choice from the Cleric spell list.  They count as Paladin spells for you, and Charisma is your spellcasting ability for them.  Whenever you gain a level in this class, you can replace one of these cantrips with another cantrip from the Cleric spell list.

Blind Fighting
You have Blindsight with a range of 10 feet.  Within that range, you can effectively see anything that isn't behind total cover, even if you're blinded or in darkness.  Moreover, you can see an invisible creature within that range, unless the creature successfully hides from you.

Interception
When a creature you can see hits a target, other than you, within 5 feet of you with an attack, you can use your reaction to reduce the damage the target takes by 1d10 + your proficiency bonus (to a minimum of 0 damage.  You must be wielding a shield or a simple or martial weapon to use this reaction.


Harness Divine Power:
3rd-level Paladin feature
You can expend a use of your Channel Divinity to fuel your spells.  As a bonus action, you touch your holy symbol, utter a prayer, and regain expended spell slot, the level of which can be no higher than half your proficiency bonus (rounded up).  The number of times you can use this feature is based on the level you've reached in this class: 3rd level, once; 7th level, twice; and 15th level, thrice.  You regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.


Martial Versatility:
4th-Level Paladin feature
Whenever you reach a level in this class that grants the Ability Score Improvement feature, you can replace a fighting style you know with another fighting style available to Paladins.  This replacement represents a shift of focus in your martial practice.


Those are the standard options available to all Paladins.  There's also two new Oaths, just in case you were interested at all:

https://5e.tools/classes.html#...~sub-watchers-tce=b1
GM
GM, 2163 posts
Wed 2 Dec 2020
at 12:51
  • msg #772

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Update: Things went well for my delieverable. Just one more hurdle at the end of the week and I'm home free for the holiday season :3

Right now I'm just checking in with folks. I notice that only U'lin has posted so far - no real rush, but if I can get updates from the other three of you sometime before Friday that would be great. I understand everyones busy with the holiday season (and Cyberpunk, curse you game devs!) so one potential option is that I'm thinking is to shorten the current scenario and get us to a relative "cooldown" period in game before the 10th. We can then go into "downtime activities" with slow posts relating more to the aftermath of Triboar's attack in the next day, then resume the pacing again once the New Year hits.

What do you guys think?

Regarding Tashas: I like some of these optional features. I really do. The Channel Divinity alternate option is something I am immediately okay with, as are the expanded spell lists for cleric and paladin. Fighting-style wise, the newer ones seem a little "too strong" so to speak, but I like the flavor of them. I only one I really have issue with is the Blind-Fighting one - its strong enough that I'm inclined to "gate" it behind a reward. Other than that though, I'm really liking all the alternate options. For now, if any of you want to use stuff from Tashas, just PM a request naming the feature(s) and the page numbers so I can reference it. In general, most things should be okay, but I want to be sure :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1368 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 2 Dec 2020
at 23:20
  • msg #773

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I think we all kind of lapsed off between a mix of end-of-the-year seasonal obligations and your own announced general absence until the 8th.  Makes for a very loose bit of wiggle room to operate within.

Going into the general conclusion of Triboar events and a cooldown after this encounter sounds like a plan to me.  It'll be a good time to transition in any changes that might occur as a result of Tasha character options, or if we want to try and add another player to the roster to fill in Thente's role.

As for the Blind Fighting style for a Paladin, it doesn't seem all that OP to me since it operates at such a limited range.  Even being able to sense an Invisible creature isn't that bad since anyone can do that already with a sufficient Perception check since being Invisible isn't complete obfuscation from all senses.  I'm pretty sure U'lin could do it automatically given his crazy-high Passive Perception more often than not.  If a creature was trying to ambush someone via Invisibility, they surely would've used the Hide action as well to stealth beforehand, so this functionally just means that the Paladin wouldn't suffer Disadvantage trying to melee an Invisible enemy.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:21, Wed 02 Dec 2020.
U'lin
player, 1015 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 3 Dec 2020
at 01:43
  • msg #774

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm fine either way, sahib.
Love the game, so the sooner the pace returns, the better in my books :)

The current situation does seem to lend itself to a wrap-up, however, since the foot is off the pedal in the situation, and we're doing more mop-up assistance.
GM
GM, 2164 posts
Thu 3 Dec 2020
at 04:16
  • msg #775

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
As for the Blind Fighting style for a Paladin, it doesn't seem all that OP to me since it operates at such a limited range.  Even being able to sense an Invisible creature isn't that bad since anyone can do that already with a sufficient Perception check since being Invisible isn't complete obfuscation from all senses.  I'm pretty sure U'lin could do it automatically given his crazy-high Passive Perception more often than not.  If a creature was trying to ambush someone via Invisibility, they surely would've used the Hide action as well to stealth beforehand, so this functionally just means that the Paladin wouldn't suffer Disadvantage trying to melee an Invisible enemy.


Fair point. The issue I have is less whether having blind-fight is good, but more on how useful it is over the other options. It might just be a knee-jerk reaction though. I'll think it over and look around more.

Moira Ruadh:
or if we want to try and add another player to the roster to fill in Thente's role.


I have been strongly considering this, and yes this seems like a good period to start recruiting. I might poke a few of the older applicants first before opening the game up, but what does everyone else here think? A 5th player?

One possibility that I have considered was having someone take over Thente's PC altogether. Changes in personality and build can be explained as part of the current symptoms he's having...and might make for some interesting drama along the way.
U'lin
player, 1016 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 3 Dec 2020
at 04:29
  • msg #776

Re: OOC Chat - 004

A 5th would work, nod.

I'm still holding hope Thente returns - although each day stretches it further, hmm?

Replacement players... I don't know.  I haven't had much luck with them (I haven't minded doing it, in fairness, and feel such was well-received, but my experience generally hasn't been great.  Anyone else experience/chime in?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1370 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 3 Dec 2020
at 04:35
  • msg #777

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I can't really say much in the way of having a new player adopt an existing character.  Never done it in a game myself, though I can see both sides of why it would appeal to some but be a lot harder to manage for others.  I'd say I'm unhelpfully on the fence and would default to the majority.
GM
GM, 2165 posts
Sat 5 Dec 2020
at 04:21
  • msg #778

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright *cracks fingers*

Recharged and ready to go!

1) Thente - I'll avoid taking over his character then. But I'll start PMing older submissions to see if any still have interest.

2) Going to try to push things forward a bit now. Do excuse some liberties taken with the narrative!
U'lin
player, 1017 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 5 Dec 2020
at 04:41
  • msg #779

Re: OOC Chat - 004


21:40, Today: U'lin rolled 14 using 1d20+3.  Religion.

Oh, let's vote to follow the little beggars.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1371 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Dec 2020
at 04:54
  • msg #780

Re: OOC Chat - 004

My 20 Perception roll got some extra information, so I'll be voting to not follow the Magmins as Moira has actually spotted the fire boulder thing they're looking for.
U'lin
player, 1018 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 5 Dec 2020
at 05:10
  • msg #781

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well.  I guess :p
Claire Larkspur
player, 828 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 5 Dec 2020
at 06:29
  • msg #782

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Almost at the finish line with my applications!

Re: 5th player
I'm totally cool with having another player, whether it's someone taking over Thente's character or a brand new concept. I feel like we might be more likely to find someone preferring the latter, but if a prospective applicant (who you think is suitable in other respects) finds Thente's concept compelling and would like to pick it up, then no objections from me really. Also fine if they want to do some minor character reworks.

Re: Magmins
I was going to vote with U'lin for following the magmins, but I'll wait until Moira's responded IC!
This message was last edited by the player at 06:29, Sat 05 Dec 2020.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1372 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 5 Dec 2020
at 08:53
  • msg #783

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm just holding off to see whether Zaiya makes or fails her save to have that response in hand before posting.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 280 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 6 Dec 2020
at 00:16
  • msg #784

Re: OOC Chat - 004

25 on the Arcana check!

Just 6 on the save though, at least she's Fire Resistant!
GM
GM, 2167 posts
Sun 6 Dec 2020
at 03:46
  • msg #785

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hm it looks the the vote is skewed towards following the magmins instead of continuing down the straight path?

If the party wants to write-in for a third choice I'm open to that as well :)
U'lin
player, 1019 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 6 Dec 2020
at 06:48
  • msg #786

Re: OOC Chat - 004

head to the anchor - whichever route moira pointing
Moira Ruadh
player, 1375 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 01:22
  • msg #787

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM - to clarify, are the requirements 3 successful Arcana/Religion checks or a 3rd level casting of Dispel Magic?  Or 3 castings of Dispel Magic?  Or are both the checks and the spell required?

Moira's not going to be of much help here since she's not trained in those skills and thus probably can't use the Help Action in this case.  If she can't, she'll just go ahead and be ready to take pot shots at the Magmins to try and keep them away.
Claire Larkspur
player, 830 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 01:25
  • msg #788

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire's proficient in religion checks, but depending on how big a threat the magmins are, it might make more sense for Zaiya and U'lin to tackle the anchor.
GM
GM, 2169 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 01:54
  • msg #789

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
DM - to clarify, are the requirements 3 successful Arcana/Religion checks or a 3rd level casting of Dispel Magic?  Or 3 castings of Dispel Magic?  Or are both the checks and the spell required?

Moira's not going to be of much help here since she's not trained in those skills and thus probably can't use the Help Action in this case.  If she can't, she'll just go ahead and be ready to take pot shots at the Magmins to try and keep them away.


You will 4 successful DC 14 Arcana or Religion checks.

A 3rd level Dispel Magic can substitute for one of these checks as an automatic success.

If it helps, I'll be rolling initiative once the party finishes buffing.

The moment U'lin/Zaiya decides to approach the anchor I'll roll for initiative :)
U'lin
player, 1020 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 03:31
  • msg #790

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Can more than one attempt be made per round?  I.e.- U'lin and Zaiya, successfully disarm it in 2 rounds?

Guidance use?

Can anyone assist?

Do we still have any NPCs with us?
  Able to help on the checks for advantage?
  Or what able to help in defend?
GM
GM, 2170 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 04:29
  • msg #791

Re: OOC Chat - 004

One check per character, but multiple checks can be made as a whole. So yes if Zaiya and Ulin both attempt they can shave two at once.

Guidance yes but that would take your action for the round. You can prebuff ofc

No NPCs, the flames are too strong for them to go in with you. No other NPC support right now.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:29, Tue 08 Dec 2020.
GM
GM, 2172 posts
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 06:07
  • msg #792

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright, looks like we're a weeee behind schedule (had some stuff come up) but lets get started!

Moira - if you're gonna be immersed in Cyberpunk I'll be happy to NPC you in the meanwhile.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1376 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 06:18
  • msg #793

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Nah, no worries about that.  I've actually decided to postpone my dive in for a while since there's so many reports of bugs and glitches.  I'm just gonna let them figure out their Day 1 patches and fixes for a while before I bother picking it up.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1377 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 13:52
  • msg #794

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Might want to double-check the Map Link you just posted, DM.  Looks like it's still the previous boss fight map.
U'lin
player, 1022 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 15:08
  • msg #795

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Nah, no worries about that.  I've actually decided to postpone my dive in for a while since there's so many reports of bugs and glitches.  I'm just gonna let them figure out their Day 1 patches and fixes for a while before I bother picking it up.
Not big on the weenies poking through outfits? :)
I haven't played it, but that's all the grumping I'm hearing :)
GM
GM, 2174 posts
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 17:38
  • msg #796

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Might want to double-check the Map Link you just posted, DM.  Looks like it's still the previous boss fight map.


Woops, fixed it!
U'lin
player, 1023 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 17:45
  • msg #797

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm.  When I try to scroll down to see the map, the screen turns grey.  Just me?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1378 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 11 Dec 2020
at 18:21
  • msg #798

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It's loading fine for me now, so it might be an Imgur problem?  Try refreshing it?
GM
GM, 2175 posts
Sat 12 Dec 2020
at 04:28
  • msg #799

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Do tell me if the map still doesn't load for folks.

Claire, Zaiya- is your current starting position within the square acceptable?
Claire Larkspur
player, 831 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 12 Dec 2020
at 05:38
  • msg #800

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Map loads fine for me! I'd like to start at N10, just one square south of where the token is at.
GM
GM, 2177 posts
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 06:26
  • msg #801

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Was asked this so to clarify: the party has seen two magmins explode already- you can estimate their death explosion only hits the squares immediately next to them
Moira Ruadh
player, 1380 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 08:37
  • msg #802

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Combat Housekeeping:
Moira is Fire Resistant, so that first round is all half damage to her.  She'll also use her Reaction on that first hit to Uncanny Dodge and halve it again.  So it should be a total of 4 Fire damage from both attacks and now being On Fire.

Anchor Skill Check:
Does someone making the skill check have to directly interact with the anchor?  Moira can do it if Zaiya uses a Free Action to call for her help.  Because of her high proficiency with Thieves' Tools, she literally can't fail the DC unless she rolls double ones.
GM
GM, 2179 posts
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 09:11
  • msg #803

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Combat Housekeeping:
Moira is Fire Resistant, so that first round is all half damage to her.  She'll also use her Reaction on that first hit to Uncanny Dodge and halve it again.  So it should be a total of 4 Fire damage from both attacks and now being On Fire.

Anchor Skill Check:
Does someone making the skill check have to directly interact with the anchor?  Moira can do it if Zaiya uses a Free Action to call for her help.  Because of her high proficiency with Thieves' Tools, she literally can't fail the DC unless she rolls double ones.


Yup, I didn't include resistances but I listed the damage there, but when I subtracted from your HP I did account for it. Not the dodge though, so I'll update that. Would you prefer if I mentioned resistances next time?

Disabling the defense trigger would require Moira to interact with the anchor yes, and risk the Con save for damage. She would need to physically move over to be adjacent.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1381 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 11:15
  • msg #804

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I appreciate being able to see where Resistances are applied, since otherwise it'll make me do double-takes trying to keep track of the math and wondering if they were overlooked on accident.  Better to just have it all there than always second-guess everything, right?

That said, you have Moira listed at 25 HP going into this fight?  She was at 31 after resting at the Keep and didn't take any damage I was aware of when navigating the flames.  So she should be at 27 HP now after taking the hits, or did I miss something?

Thieves' Tool Skill Check
Zaiya, U'lin, what's your call there?  Moira can get to the Anchor, make the skill check, and get halfway back to melee with her original group of Magmins without suffering Opportunity Attacks (thank you Bonus Action Disengage!).  Should she pop over to help out, or would you rather field the Arcana check yourselves while she works to whittle the enemies down with Claire?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:18, Sun 13 Dec 2020.
GM
GM, 2180 posts
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 12:07
  • msg #805

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
I appreciate being able to see where Resistances are applied, since otherwise it'll make me do double-takes trying to keep track of the math and wondering if they were overlooked on accident.  Better to just have it all there than always second-guess everything, right?

That said, you have Moira listed at 25 HP going into this fight?  She was at 31 after resting at the Keep and didn't take any damage I was aware of when navigating the flames.  So she should be at 27 HP now after taking the hits, or did I miss something?


Gotcha. And yea I copied over the previous fight but forgot to update Moira's HP for the rest.
U'lin
player, 1025 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 20:40
  • msg #806

Re: OOC Chat - 004

If we make the next two checks - don't need to disable it, correct, DM?

If we fail, bellow for help, Moira runs in as cavalry to stop the danger room explosion.
If we succeed, then she take out another baddie before it melees/explodes all over us?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 284 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 23:20
  • msg #807

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sounds like a plan!

Just....  Nobody fuck it up, please.
U'lin
player, 1026 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 23:21
  • msg #808

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM, U'lin should be over around the middle of the building T12ish - it was with intent to be in reach of his spiritual weapon, and to spread the explosions of fire (well, I was worried about aoe breath/blast weapon, but little fire bombs work too :) )
Moira Ruadh
player, 1382 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 02:37
  • msg #809

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Shit, wait, no.  Because Moira is higher in the Initiative order, she'd have to use the Ready an Action function to jump over and help out after being called over.  I was double-checking the Ready Action rules and realized I can't do it now because that triggers on a Reaction.  Moira already used her Reaction to "Uncanny Dodge" this round.  >_<

So it's an either-or situation.  You have to either call Moira over right now and have her disable the trap right before attempting to make your own checks on your turns, or she stays where she is and attacks the Magmins while both of you work to shut down the whole thing before the trap can go off in the first place.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:38, Mon 14 Dec 2020.
U'lin
player, 1027 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 03:35
  • msg #810

Re: OOC Chat - 004

She is higher in the init order... for next round.  The rest of us are still in the round before.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1383 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 03:44
  • msg #811

Re: OOC Chat - 004

We're in Round 2 right now and the trap will go off at the end, won't it?  Or am I misunderstanding and it'll instead go off at the end of Round 3?
U'lin
player, 1028 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 03:46
  • msg #812

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
We're in Round 2 right now and the trap will go off at the end, won't it?  Or am I misunderstanding and it'll instead go off at the end of Round 3?
That was how I read it.
Not "this round" but Should you not shut the stone down within the next round..."
GM
GM, 2181 posts
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 04:27
  • msg #813

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea so what happened was Ulin and Zaiya- sort of jumped the gun a bit when we started and posted for Round 1. It didn't really affect the monster behavior, so I rolled with it.

To clarify, if the trap isn't disabled by the end of Round 2, which we just entered, bad things will happen. Shutting down the stone before the end of Round 2 will work as well.

We just entered Round 2 after whatever actions Claire took. So it's Moira's go now, then the Magmins, then Ulin Zaiya Claire.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1384 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 04:43
  • msg #814

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So my original summary stands then - do y'all want to Free Action shout for Moira's fine-work tools or have everyone continue to focus on their tasks as originally planned?
U'lin
player, 1029 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 14:39
  • msg #815

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya's the only one that caught the failsafe, so it's in her ballpark, I imagine.
GM
GM, 2182 posts
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 16:23
  • msg #816

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm fine with you guys voting on tactical info like this OOC, if you wanna add your two cents Ulin
U'lin
player, 1030 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 19:01
  • msg #817

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Then id vote to disable

Removing one magmin is helpful, but only by removing one small foe

If we succeed, it is a lost action, but not huge
If we fail, removing potential danger of aoe blast or a big elemental.  Huge trade up
Claire Larkspur
player, 833 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 14 Dec 2020
at 21:46
  • msg #818

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Agree with U'lin. I kind of wonder if I should have run over to make a religion check, but worried a little that pulling back would have brought more potentially exploding magmins into a position where they could have done more damage.
GM
GM, 2183 posts
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 05:51
  • msg #819

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira? *poke*

Have we lost her to Night City?

I'm finally picking up me (IRL) copy of Tasha's tonight! It -should- be the one with the fancy white cover too. Excite!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1385 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 06:23
  • msg #820

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I was waiting on Zaiya's approval/action.  Moira doesn't know anything about how the anchor operates and Zaiya was the one who made the Passive Perception check to notice it.  So in order for Moira to get involved, she has to be called over.

Since Zaiya already signed off on being willing to go along with the plan before, should I just go ahead and post under the assumption that something in-character was shouted to get Moira over there?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:36, Wed 16 Dec 2020.
GM
GM, 2184 posts
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 07:13
  • msg #821

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I think that's fine, best keep things trudging along.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1386 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 07:17
  • msg #822

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Will do.

-edit-

Moira's solution to disarming a complex magical trap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-gpx5GVXWI
This message was last edited by the player at 07:40, Wed 16 Dec 2020.
U'lin
player, 1032 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 16:20
  • msg #823

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Moira's solution to disarming a complex magical trap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-gpx5GVXWI
Love that show.

I think U'lin just did similarly.

My apparent vote for most powerful item in the game (for U'lin).  Something giving +5' spell reach. :p
Zaiya Alvina
player, 285 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 21:19
  • msg #824

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm back from work!

So, do I still need to roll?  Zaiya would pop Shield to negate that first attack (Though the others roll high enough to hit her anyway, jerks!)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1389 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 21:21
  • msg #825

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yay for fixing things by breaking them!  :3
GM
GM, 2187 posts
Thu 17 Dec 2020
at 03:43
  • msg #826

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya Alvina:
I'm back from work!

So, do I still need to roll?  Zaiya would pop Shield to negate that first attack (Though the others roll high enough to hit her anyway, jerks!)


You do, Moira only stopped the "trap". You still need 1 more success to power down the stone.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1390 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 17 Dec 2020
at 08:40
  • msg #827

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I really hope this anchor works the way such things do in video games, where stopping the countdown timer ends the level and automatically banishes all the enemies on the field.  It'd be pretty embarrassing if we ended up dying to a bunch of minions nipping at our ankles after all this.  ^^;
GM
GM, 2188 posts
Fri 18 Dec 2020
at 02:04
  • msg #828

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
I really hope this anchor works the way such things do in video games, where stopping the countdown timer ends the level and automatically banishes all the enemies on the field.  It'd be pretty embarrassing if we ended up dying to a bunch of minions nipping at our ankles after all this.  ^^;


Y'know I really should...
U'lin
player, 1033 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 18 Dec 2020
at 02:09
  • msg #829

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Moira Ruadh:
I really hope this anchor works the way such things do in video games, where stopping the countdown timer ends the level and automatically banishes all the enemies on the field.  It'd be pretty embarrassing if we ended up dying to a bunch of minions nipping at our ankles after all this.  ^^;
Y'know I really should...
Better than them all exploding at the timer end!
Ethgar Longarm
player, 1 post
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 17:33
  • msg #830

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hello everyone! My understanding is may be a bit yet before we meet in game, so figured I might as well introduce myself here. I'm excited to join you and look forward to meeting you in character. Try to survive until then, please ;-)
U'lin
player, 1034 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 17:37
  • msg #831

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ethgar Longarm:
Hello everyone! My understanding is may be a bit yet before we meet in game, so figured I might as well introduce myself here. I'm excited to join you and look forward to meeting you in character. Try to survive until then, please ;-)
Ah, most excellent!  Welcome aboard, Ethgar!
We can always use another great poster.  The DM has crafted an excellent campaign so far - challenging (we just lost two allies), but it has been very rich and long-lived.
Ethgar Longarm
player, 2 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 17:41
  • msg #832

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yes, I got that impression. I've had enough games fizzle out on here that I'm very selective about what I apply to these days. This one seems promising, though, I'm excited!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1391 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 17:49
  • msg #833

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hey hey, new face!  Welcome aboard.

This game has been going for a good long while now and has survived a number of players passing through one way or another, with myself and Claire being here from the very beginning.  Our DM's put a lot of work into making a solid story and setting for us, and everyone's put in to build quality characterization as well.  I'm sure you'll have a good time here.  ^^
U'lin
player, 1035 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 17:56
  • msg #834

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
This game has been going for a good long while now and has survived a number of players passing through one way or another, with myself and Claire being here from the very beginning.  Our DM's put a lot of work into making a solid story and setting for us, and everyone's put in to build quality characterization as well.  I'm sure you'll have a good time here.  ^^
Yes, sadly I had to wait to join.  Turnover is uncommon, but between Covid and holidays... c'est la vie.

The quality of story and RP is excellent.  Easily one of my favourite campaigns.
Moira's cooking needs work, of course, but we humour her. :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1392 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 18:23
  • msg #835

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
Moira's cooking needs work, of course, but we humour her. :)


Love you too, U'lin.

Ethgar - there is actually a timeline thread you can review if you want to check on the history of our various shenanigans.  Claire and Moira are the last holdovers from the very start of the game, as we've recently lost Thente and Doderic is in sort of a "not quite here, not quite gone either" limbo state.  U'lin joined up very shortly after the start of the game once we set into the larger world, while Zaiya is the newest addition to the group before yourself.  Of the current cast, Moira, Claire, and U'lin have been through the most together and I'm sure poor Miss Zaiya is wondering about how much hazard pay she should demand from our sponsor for having to deal with us.  :3
This message was last edited by the player at 18:28, Sat 19 Dec 2020.
Ethgar Longarm
player, 3 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 18:29
  • msg #836

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Very helpful, thanks!
U'lin
player, 1036 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 18:30
  • msg #837

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
U'lin:
Moira's cooking needs work, of course, but we humour her. :)


Love you too, U'lin.
Grin.  Right back atcha, M.
(In case you haven't had a chance to read the backstory, Eth, Moira's cooking is magnificent, always described with care, and has been crucial to us surviving a number of very brutal encounters, not mention off the constant fatigue from pushing ourselves too far too fast.

U'lin is probably her greatest source of frustration, but he's very impressed with her.)
GM
GM, 2189 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 19:01
  • msg #838

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hello! Please welcome our new player.

Been a little uh. Occupied in the last few days with IRL stuff. Totally not playing random old games on my machine now that work is letting up. Nope.

...why is it 2am already.

Uhhh, stay tuned for the conclusion tomorrow (12 hours or so) :P
Claire Larkspur
player, 835 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 19:02
  • msg #839

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Welcome Ethgar! Like the rest have said, our GM here has put together and sustained an amazing, top quality and very durable campaign. I can certainly vouch for having had a great time thus far since we started in...pretty long ago. Lots of great character customization allowance from the GM either, and encounters can be tough but (in my view at least) always fair .

I always look forward to hearing more about new character concepts, but take whatever time you need! We've got lots of useful threads to keep track of stuff too (which I admittedly should be more proactive in using), so good to familiarize yourself with those. :)
U'lin
player, 1037 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 19:09
  • msg #840

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Finally beat Slay the Spire with Ironclad.  First character, but took me literally months longer than the rest.

Though I am looking forward to BG3 and Civ6, which has been waiting on my desktop forever!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1393 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 19:16
  • msg #841

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm delaying Cyberpunk 2077 until after the new year (letting them work out their bugs since I'm playing on the old-gen version), but I've got BG3 in waiting for me as well.  I've been playing Final Fantasy 14 and Star Wars: The Old Republic in the meantime.  Really good stories on the both of those.
Claire Larkspur
player, 836 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 19:22
  • msg #842

Re: OOC Chat - 004

My life has been consumed by FF14 once more XD Though I'm also eyeing Steam for a Planet Zoo sale.
GM
GM, 2191 posts
Sun 20 Dec 2020
at 09:38
  • msg #843

Re: OOC Chat - 004

As a headsup, there will be some slight railroading coming up as I attempt to integrate our new PC into the story :)

I've been sinking a lot of hours into replaying Torchlight 2. Despite being over 8 years old the gameplay still grabs me. Might be nostalgia, might be craft. *sighs*

@U'lin: I love Slay the Spire! I've been grinding it on and off on higher and higher ascensions whenever I get the itch for some rogue-like deckbuilding. Ironclad is probably my favorite of the three, Defect a close second. I haven't quite gotten a grip on the Silent and the new Watcher yet, but I really love that game.

Still waiting on BG3 too. I love what its done so far but I loathe to pay for early-access when its not complete. Can you imagine joining a DnD campaign where major sourcebooks get added retroactively later, and the DM's plot doesn't extend beyond Act 1?

looks at half-scribbled campaign notes and freshly unboxed copy of Tashas

Hahaha that would be a laugh, wouldn't it? Haha.
Ethgar Longarm
player, 4 posts
Sun 20 Dec 2020
at 15:57
  • msg #844

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
looks at half-scribbled campaign notes and freshly unboxed copy of Tashas

Hahaha that would be a laugh, wouldn't it? Haha.


LOL.

I had not heard of Slay the Spire, but checked it out after reading this and it sounds right up my alley, might have to pick it up.
U'lin
player, 1038 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 20 Dec 2020
at 16:51
  • msg #845

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It's a very fun game, and (with a 3yo and high-needs wife, extra helpful) able to step away, and come back without missing a stride.  One of my buddies hooked me onto it, and dang addictive fun.

Once you take the Ironclad starting character to the first boss, you'll start opening up the next three characters.  Defect is my fav, but good Silent and Watcher decks have so many different styles (Silent discard draw into near perpetual engine, or Watcher hokipokie decks are so dang fun), and the different relics that you find/receive, that I find myself rotating through them all, because I love playing the different styles.
GM
GM, 2194 posts
Wed 23 Dec 2020
at 07:34
  • msg #846

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Countdown to xmas!

@U'lin: yea even though I say Ironclads my favorite its like, being asked to pick best ice cream flavor when the right answer is "ice cream? yes". Defect does seem very in-character for U'lin though xD

@Ethgar: You should try it! Its really good, pauses easily, and can be surprisingly addictive. Just don't get too addicted and forget about us D:

RE: The Game

I'm just gonna let the new thread sit for a bit so that folks can chill over the next week while doing some light RP. When you are ready to move on and meet Daratha, just indicate it here (or in an OOC line someone in the main thread) and I'll start us back up. Otherwise, I'll do a push forward sometime first week of Jan, say 3rd or 4th. Hows that sound?
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:35, Wed 23 Dec 2020.
U'lin
player, 1042 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Wed 23 Dec 2020
at 13:23
  • msg #847

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh I’m good now!  :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1397 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 23 Dec 2020
at 17:05
  • msg #848

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Same.  While I'm personally quite happy to sit back a bit and do some light RP to give ourselves a chance to breathe, as well as get some time to actually chat with Zaiya in-character, I'm otherwise ready to go whenever.  My Christmas holiday has basically been cancelled due to The Plague, so it's business as usual this year.

I think I may have Moira steal into a corner of the Keep's kitchens for the sake of making some breakfast for everyone though.  :3  She'll only use what supplies she's brought with her on the wagon since I'm certain there's very likely going to be a fair bit of famine and food shortage as a result of the attack and she doesn't want to take anything from Triboar that she doesn't have to.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:07, Wed 23 Dec 2020.
U'lin
player, 1043 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Wed 23 Dec 2020
at 17:25
  • msg #849

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Same.  While I'm personally quite happy to sit back a bit and do some light RP to give ourselves a chance to breathe, as well as get some time to actually chat with Zaiya in-character, I'm otherwise ready to go whenever.  My Christmas holiday has basically been cancelled due to The Plague, so it's business as usual this year.
Agreed.  We'll be doing a few zoom calls at best.
I do have faith on my wife finding chores for me to do, but as her drive has been low, most will go nowhere :)

Moira Ruadh:
I think I may have Moira steal into a corner of the Keep's kitchens for the sake of making some breakfast for everyone though.  :3  She'll only use what supplies she's brought with her on the wagon since I'm certain there's very likely going to be a fair bit of famine and food shortage as a result of the attack and she doesn't want to take anything from Triboar that she doesn't have to.
We do have cooking option in the Beetle as well, if the kitchens are full for whatever purposes - though I can certainly appreciate Moira wanting to cook in much larger kitchen!
Zaiya Alvina
player, 288 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 23 Dec 2020
at 18:59
  • msg #850

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, just been occupied with the pre-christmas stuff myself, I'll try to pop a post out later on today.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1400 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 24 Dec 2020
at 17:45
  • msg #851

Re: OOC Chat - 004

quote:
Someone is going to have a very unfortunate day, and I don't know who it is yet...

Today's Prophecy is...  a 3 and a 4.  Yeesh!


The DM.  It's the DM who's going to have an unfortunate day, with rolls like that.  :3

Also, happy Christmas Eve to any who celebrate it.  I'm spending today making care packages of rich vegetable and cheese soup to leave packaged on the doorsteps of various family folk.
U'lin
player, 1045 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 24 Dec 2020
at 17:56
  • msg #852

Re: OOC Chat - 004

We've spent the last couple days doing deliveries, so today is movie marathon.
Going to try and sneak in a game of Legendary over facetime, but we'll see when that happens in the next couple days.
GM
GM, 2195 posts
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 03:32
  • msg #853

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Merry Xmas everyone!

Zaiya: hurhur I the DM now

DM: shockedpikachu.png
Zaiya Alvina
player, 290 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 15:45
  • msg #854

Re: OOC Chat - 004

"It doesn't make any sense the forecast calls for heavy snow, why is everything on fire?"
U'lin
player, 1046 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 16:30
  • msg #855

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Merry Christmas to all who partake!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1401 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 16:36
  • msg #856

Re: OOC Chat - 004

And a happy cup of coffee to those who don't.

...and those who do, really, because like hell I'm not having my morning coffee.  ^^;  I'm happy to report that the soup deliveries went off without a hitch, even if they did have to be made at long distance drop offs for the sake of safety.
Claire Larkspur
player, 840 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 19:28
  • msg #857

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Happy holidays friends! May fattening winter food be in abundant supply for all ^^
Ethgar Longarm
player, 5 posts
Fri 25 Dec 2020
at 19:50
  • msg #858

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Merry Christmas where applicable! You all got me hooked on Slay the Spire :-)
GM
GM, 2196 posts
Tue 29 Dec 2020
at 02:51
  • msg #859

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Glad to hear that xD

Also very interesting RP going on here. Seems like IC wise all the Nightstone folks are a weeeee bit stressed.

Also, do you guys wanna assume someone checked on Thentes? XD
U'lin
player, 1047 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 29 Dec 2020
at 04:15
  • msg #860

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ulin was going down to check on the wagon and our npcs
Moira Ruadh
player, 1402 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 30 Dec 2020
at 00:10
  • msg #861

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Does U'lin have anything to say in regards to the current hug fest going on, or should we assume he's shuffling his feet without comment?  I don't want to pressure for a reply or anything, but I wanted to wait for everyone to have a chance to chime in before responding to folk.
GM
GM, 2198 posts
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 10:29
  • msg #862

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright! I'm gonna start moving things forward a bit. Gonna begin with a bit of NPC interaction to get everyone warmed up.

While Ulin and Moira are doing their thing, what would Claire and Zaiya be up to?

Also, would people want more opportunities for intra party convos like the one that was just had? I can fit them in easily during travel, especially after Triboar, assuming folks are able to drive the conversation.
Ethgar Longarm
player, 6 posts
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 13:26
  • msg #863

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hello everyone! As I finish up my character sheet, I'm finding myself torn on a few decision points so figured I might as well check in with you all to see whether you had any thoughts on what might work better with the current party dynamic.

He's a bard from one of the Uthgardt tribes, with a strong skald/Viking flavor. I'm trying to lean into the martial side of things, to make him feel like not just another minstrel. So, I'm torn between College of Valor, which would be a tankier support character (carries a shield, uses bardic inspiration to provide more combat buffs to you all) or College of Swords, which would be more focused on attacking and using bardic inspiration to buff himself and make himself more mobile.

I'm also still working out spells. I'm more interested in choosing thematic spells than strategically optimized ones, but it is admittedly more fun to be able to do things that are useful and not overlapping with what others can already do. Here's what I have penciled in now:

  Cantrips
  - Prestidigitation
  - Vicious Mockery
  - Message

  Level 1
  - Heroism
  - Bane
  - Disguise Self

  Level 2
  - Enhance Ability
  - Heat Metal
  - Shatter

  Level 3
  - Fear
  - Sending

Message and Sending in particular I think are largely redundant if someone else already has them.

Also I haven't really looked through the supplemental books for spells, so if there's something cool in Tasha's or whatever that you think might fit, please let me know!

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Looking forward to meeting you all soon!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1405 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 14:48
  • msg #864

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ooh, neat character angle given the state of the Sword Coast at this point.  Is he set to be an outcast from the Wolf Tribe we've been contending with or just from some Tribe entirely?  I imagine Ethgar's going to have a little trouble initially fitting in since we've been enemies with the Uthgardt at first, but having a good introductory reason for him joining up and maybe being able to give the party some insight as to the whole conflict could be really solid.

As for spells, "Sending" seems like it would be super useful to have on hand, even if we end up having overlap.  A lot of our frequent troubles have been based around not being able to manage long-range communication as often as we need to, so being able to ring someone we know up via magic at any time would be great.

"Heroism" might have diminishing returns at this point in the game since it's Concentration.  If Ethgar is going to be getting up in melee regardless of his college choice, it's very likely to drop sooner than later.  It seems likely a situational spell.  Same goes for "Heat Metal".  I don't think we've ever fought anyone wearing metal armor in the entire game thus far?  I can certainly see it being thematic for an Uthgardt to have if he's been duking it out with non-tribesmen, but we've generally been fighting enemies wearing organic-based light armor or that have Natural Armor.

Since it seems like you're gearing more into an offensive rather than support Bard, maybe consider "Dissonant Whispers", "Faerie Fire", "Thunderwave", "Mirror Image", or "Silence"?  Those are all really handy at getting a leg up in a fight.  There's also healing spells like "Cure Wounds" and "Healing Word", though Claire and U'lin do offer a fair bit of healing support already if you didn't want to double up there.

If you're still considering options, 5eTools has all the splatbook content consolidated into one place for easy filtering and perusing.  Here's all the Bard Spells, for example.

https://5e.tools/spells.html#aid_phb
This message was last edited by the player at 14:49, Thu 31 Dec 2020.
GM
GM, 2199 posts
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 15:02
  • msg #865

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Fire Giants wear metal armor! :D
Moira Ruadh
player, 1407 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 15:23
  • msg #866

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin
player, 1049 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 19:34
  • msg #867

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Fire Giants wear metal armor! :D
But are immune to fire/heat damage?  See - we told you he was trixy!

Ethgar:
So, I'm torn between College of Valor, which would be a tankier support character (carries a shield, uses bardic inspiration to provide more combat buffs to you all) or College of Swords...
Agreed with Moira on the excellent character background angle.  We've both had helpful exchanges with some of the tribes and near-fatal ones, so agent in support of a tribe?  Renegade?  Spy?  Double-spy?  Peacemaker?  Unifier?  Oh the fun!

Well, as to the choices, party comp and style make a big difference to impact.

U'lin is weakest on damage, but melee caster/very tanky.
Claire is crazy melee nova, but a step down on tanky
Moira consistent high damage, melee and ranged.
Zaiya's all about the casting.

So you don't need to be tank, but nor do you need to be bigdmg - choice and options are wide to you :)

Valour shines in its own, with broader range of weapons over Swords, and shield to allow sword and board.  The AC use for inspiration for quasi-Shields on everyone... that's very strong, and very helpful to a party.

I will put outright that I like the idea of the College of Swords, but I've never found it to hit stride without a dip into fighter or warlock, or until Master's Flourish at 14th.
Defensive flourish, but no shields.  Pushes you really into TWF (but then no bonus actions?) or dipping outside.
Now Mobile Flourish with area control spells - that is the bee's knees.

So do you see your chap helping the melee or the casters?


Ethgar:
'm more interested in choosing thematic spells than strategically optimized ones, but it is admittedly more fun to be able to do things that are useful...
 Cantrips
  - Prestidigitation
  - Vicious Mockery
  - Message

  Level 1
  - Heroism
  - Bane
  - Disguise Self

  Level 2
  - Enhance Ability
  - Heat Metal
  - Shatter

  Level 3
  - Fear
  - Sending
U'lin has Disguise Self - I quit using Bane, but knock yourself out :)
U'lin also has Heat Metal as a freebie prep, but I've never used it except OOC RP wise :)

Ethgar:
Message and Sending in particular I think are largely redundant if someone else already has them.
I'd have to agree with Moira.
Having multiple with access to communication is very helpful, especially for when the party is split.

Message is most handy, but generally not a must-have.  I've enjoyed it when I had it but..
compared to the fun and versatility of Minor Image?  That spell may be my fav cantrip.  if you are a creative person, gods above it's amazing.  Need cover from range?  To hide? Distraction? Target practice? Trying new outfits?  It is simply so dang good in and out of combat.

If you don't like causing the DM's brain to implode from illusions, I'm running a bard in another game with Mage Hand, and that is almost as good.  Trap suspected?  Trip with hand, or try to disarm from range.  Tempting loot at bottom of pool?  Hand it safely.  Stand off at the card game, but you're needing a new ale?  Hand.  It really lets you poke into places, set off your own traps, and do it from safety.



quote:
Since it seems like you're gearing more into an offensive rather than support Bard, maybe consider "Dissonant Whispers", "Faerie Fire", "Thunderwave", "Mirror Image", or "Silence"?  Those are all really handy at getting a leg up in a fight.  There's also healing spells like "Cure Wounds" and "Healing Word", though Claire and U'lin do offer a fair bit of healing support
Dissonant is just so dang good - especially when surrounded with melee allies that can all potentially take AOOs.  For a first level that also does good damage?  Heck yes!  I love me some bard, and that spell has been the only "must have" that has always held its weight and then some.
Moira's other suggestions are also quite good, of course :)

I agree on the others for creativity, but don't discount Cloud of Daggers if you go Swords.
Heh - or to put things into reach of U'lin's Spiritual weapon, am I right? :p
Shatter has been nice, but the ongoing of Cloud is free damage or area control, and if Zaiya's already helping on area control, it's gold.

At the end of the day, take what interests you :)
I must admit that I wouldn't be as likely to take any of the Lvl1 or 2 for the background you've described (and my style of play prefers others spells except Heroism, generally, but they can be helpful to certain thrusts).

Your 3rds are both solid choices.
Fear can be a great battle control spell, and Sending is another very useful OOCombat spell.  Like both those choices.
You may want to consider: Dispel Magic - another that ... gods above, so many times I've wished I had it at hand.

If you are leaning towards a pre-buffer style PC, Heroism pre-buffs, Aid may also be of interest, and it doesn't interfere with Heroism.
3rd lvl Vampiric Touch for melee restoration, if you can hack the concentration checks.


(I tend to like more versatile options than a particular X.)

~
Where I would disagree with the very wise Moira - is Healing Word.  U'lin and Claire do both have battle healing - but 1) there's never enough, and 2) being able to kick the healers back onto their feet as a bonus?  With reach?  Oh heck yes.  It also gives you something to burn up extra slots if going a long rest in town, and more combat options for your than simply "I hit it with my axe.  Or scimitar."  Again, little else brings a group together as being restored from unconsciousness and a vulnerable certain death to waking and striking down the bigbaddie!
-If I have access to it, it goes in the roster unless it's antithetical to the concept.
Ethgar Longarm
player, 7 posts
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 20:53
  • msg #868

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thanks everyone, this is super helpful. DM and I are on top of the issue of how to integrate Ethgar into the group tensions with the Uthgardt generally, but I'll leave that to IC ;-)

I'm leaning pretty heavily towards Valor at this point. I'll be reconsidering spells in light of this discussion. Thanks again!
U'lin
player, 1051 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 21:47
  • msg #869

Re: OOC Chat - 004

For impact, it's hard to argue with Valour.  You need minimal investment for group protection, and you're full to go on everything short of heavy armour.  Plus spells?  Sure sounds good.

Looking forward to meeting you Eth!
GM
GM, 2200 posts
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 02:36
  • msg #870

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Speaking as a dnd player and not the DM, I would say swords vs valor comes down to how you want Ethgar to play: are you going to be spending bardics on yourself to enable flourish, or do you want to use them on your party?

Having played with two different swords bards, I've found they usually end up reserving bardics for their own flourishes so much they get stingy with it on others. You don't have to do that ofc, but the tension is there.
Claire Larkspur
player, 842 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 03:46
  • msg #871

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Happy New Year friends!

Between U'lin's excellent suggestions and my own limited knowledge of DnD mechanics, I don't have much to add. Just a point of his to emphasize re party comp - I believe Claire and Moira actually have the same AC, so although paladins are traditionally thought of as tanks, I'm really much more of a melee damage dealer, and only incidentally am a tank because I'm usually in the way XD So if you're thinking of spending more time on the frontline, more melee staying power would be welcome ^^ Of course, ultimately you should build your stats as you wish!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1408 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 04:03
  • msg #872

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire:
I believe Claire and Moira actually have the same AC, so although paladins are traditionally thought of as tanks, I'm really much more of a melee damage dealer, and only incidentally am a tank because I'm usually in the way XD


So basically what I'm reading is that we really need to dig into finding AC-boosting magic items.

But yeah, Moira and Claire are actually really similar in their combat function but different in the mechanical approach.  Primarily in that Moira is a high-mobility type who deals consistent damage at all ranges, whereas Claire is comparatively low mobility (barring being mounted on Glory, of course) who deals big spike damage at close range.

Outside of combat, Moira and Claire have actually gotten a fun good cop/bad cop routine on in the past; Moira is a high CHA build but has a blunt, no-nonsense personality whereas Claire has a much more gentle touch in conversation.  In general for the party, I think we have a good spread of skill proficiency overall to cover most scenarios.  Moira, despite being a Rogue, isn't really a general skill monkey so much as she is hyper-focused on a very small and specific array.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:22, Fri 01 Jan 2021.
U'lin
player, 1052 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 04:22
  • msg #873

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Claire:
I believe Claire and Moira actually have the same AC...
So basically what I'm reading is that we really need to dig into finding AC-boosting magic items.
Or AC-improving bards...

or both.  I'm good with both.  Definitely both.
Perhaps there are party giant runes to locate!
Moira Ruadh
player, 1409 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 04:25
  • msg #874

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Both is good.

But yeah, Giant Runes would be pretty neat too for the setting.  It's a rather underused element in D&D, even with the Rune Knight now being a thing in Tasha's Cauldron.  Though we also do have the Piety system in effect as well, so there might be room to drop in minor AC boosts into that as well if the DM allows.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:26, Fri 01 Jan 2021.
Claire Larkspur
player, 844 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 04:32
  • msg #875

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Incidentally, DM and I have discussed AC-boosting items before. I'll leave them to decide if and/or when to introduce some of those (since I understand that flat AC-bonuses aren't intended to be too common), but I must say it's been very exciting and enjoyable to be simultaneously dangerous burst damage-wise and somewhat vulnerable AC-wise. Past fights may not have been as interesting if I had U'lin's superb AC, so good job DM on making those feel balanced. I'm sure future encounters may be different though.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:32, Fri 01 Jan 2021.
U'lin
player, 1053 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 04:37
  • msg #876

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
Incidentally, DM and I have discussed AC-boosting items before. I'll leave them to decide if and/or when to introduce some of those (since I understand that flat AC-bonuses aren't intended to be too common), but I must say it's been very exciting and enjoyable to be simultaneously dangerous burst damage-wise and somewhat vulnerable AC-wise. Past fights may not have been as interesting if I had U'lin's superb AC, so good job DM on making those feel balanced. I'm sure future encounters may be different though.

Oh agreed.  And U'lin in the flipside, in solid defence, but not able to dish it out as well as he can take it - and I certainly feel the weakness on that side!  Definitely fun and challenging encounters.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1410 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 04:44
  • msg #877

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Very true and good points.  Though I do find a point of contention given the sort of enemies we've been fighting in particular.  There's a big difference between being hit risking incremental HP loss versus being hit risking Lycanthropy, or Death by Massive Damage at the business end of a Giant's strike.  ^^;  I know the overall encounters have been suitable to the party size and structure, but thematically speaking it really feels like we've been punching above our weight since the Goblin Caves.
U'lin
player, 1054 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 05:17
  • msg #878

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh, agreed, agreed.  Terribly heroic, and terribly feeling the danger/lethality.

And that before the extra layer of brutal impact of having to really ration any spells until a long rest - just nasty, nasty on casters.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1411 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 05:21
  • msg #879

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I heard about a means of running Curse of Strahd within the course of a single in-game night.  As in, only a single short rest if you're lucky and no Long Rests at all.  Which sounds like utter mayhem to me.
GM
GM, 2201 posts
Fri 1 Jan 2021
at 07:20
  • msg #880

Re: OOC Chat - 004

There will be more giant runes! You just need to find more giants ;)
U'lin
player, 1055 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 2 Jan 2021
at 17:38
  • msg #881

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Clear the tower then off to hunt giants
Moira Ruadh
player, 1413 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 2 Jan 2021
at 17:57
  • msg #882

Re: OOC Chat - 004

It'll probably be more like clear the Tower, spend a day or two recovering, manage some character stuff in that meantime for Claire and Moira with Foehammer and Alaestra, head to Yartar to get Stoor revived and Thente sorted, meet Ethgar somewhere amid all that, then hunt Giants.  ^^;

Given the way things are progressing, I feel like it's only a matter of time before SEER passes down a direct hunt-and-kill order on the two Fire Giants specifically.  Then we get the fun of figuring out how to fight a pair of Fire Giants, or how we can split them apart long enough to pick them off one at a time.
U'lin
player, 1056 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 00:32
  • msg #883

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I volunteer the dwarf smith as tribute
Moira Ruadh
player, 1414 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 00:48
  • msg #884

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I mean, that actually is a pretty fair assessment I hadn't considered before.  It makes sense that while the Artisan's Blessing ritual reshapes matter into a new form, it wouldn't necessarily improve or dramatically alter the quality of the resulting metal structure.  Especially if it had to create non-metal parts wholesale.  Even much higher-tier magic like the "Fabricate", "Creation", or "Mighty Fortress" spells are still faulty in terms of construction results, let alone for a lower-tier class ability gained at 2nd level.

It's not like Foehammer's criticism is a remark against U'lin's skills or even Gond's production either since there's no smelter or forge available to refine materials with.  U'lin's basically been MacGyvering the Iron Beetle out of spare parts this whole time, which is actually rather impressive when you think about it.  Like how Moira produces better results when she has a kitchen to work in rather than just a camp fire; it'd be neat to see what U'lin can manage if he has access to something like, oh say, a full established smithy and skilled, senior Dwarven crafter to work with for a while.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:49, Sun 03 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2203 posts
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 05:44
  • msg #885

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I would add that my intent with Foehammer in this scene is that he is "correct" in saying U'lins creations could be improved with better base materials, but that he is also being unfairly harsh here- sort of like scolding a food truck chef for not using wagyu in their burger.

Also what Moira said- U'lin being able to make the catapults with divine smithing alone is impressive as heck. Gherlyn's just choosing not to explicitly acknowledge it, cause he's also kind of a dick.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 292 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 18:08
  • msg #886

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah, Dorfs, always the worst critics.
GM
GM, 2205 posts
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 18:47
  • msg #887

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I just realised we never sorted out the loot from the previous night!

I'll update the Loot Tracker first thing in the morning, but here's a recap of all the stuff found.

I'll also going to assume Identify was cast on everything so:

FROM THE FORGE:

Arrow of Slaying: Werewolf x1
Arrow of Slaying: Fey x1

Blade covered in Chains: Sword of Vengeance (Rapier)
You gain a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls made with this magic weapon.

Curse. This sword is cursed and possessed by a vengeful spirit. Becoming attuned to it extends the curse to you. As long as you remain cursed, you are unwilling to part with the sword, keeping it on your person at all times. While attuned to this weapon, you have disadvantage on attack rolls made with weapons other than this one.
In addition, while the sword is on your person, you must succeed on a DC 15 Wisdom saving throw whenever you take damage in combat. On a failed save you must attack the creature that damaged you until you drop to 0 hit points or it does, or until you can't reach the creature to make a melee attack against it.

You can break the curse in the usual ways. Alternatively, casting banishment on the sword forces the vengeful spirit to leave it. The sword then becomes a +1 weapon with no other properties.

Minor Property: this blade glows blue in the presence of Orcs (200ft)

Disassembled Uthgardt Bow: identify reveals a bunch of nonsense, as the parts are not connected, the spell is gives scattered information. The bow is of Uthgardt make, the magic residue in it is pretty powerful. Something something ancestral spirits(?)

The bow requires a mix of Arcana and Woodworking checks to reassemble (1 each). Smithing would also work, but at Disadvantage. No DC, higher check will result in a more 'successful' reassembly with potentially greater abilities. Note that you only get one chance at this, however I'll allow Zaiya and U'lin to work together on this. PM me when you guys want to give it a shot.

Note that no one has consulted Foehammer about taking items from his Forge, nor has the dwarf commented on it.

FROM HYUTH:

-Bronze Bracers engraved with Draconic runes and scales --> Bracers of Defense
https://roll20.net/compendium/...of%20Defense#content

Minor Property: anyone attuned to these Bracers gains the ability to Speak and Understand Draconic

-Scroll of Fireball x1
-Scroll of Sending x1
-Scroll of Dispel Magic x1
-Scroll of Comprehend Languages x1
-Scroll of Magic Aura x1
-Potion of Healing
-A tiny silver chest engraved with dozens of fine, delicate runes
-A ring of keys, partially melted
-20gp, partially melted (but still worth about the same amount)
-Several very, very damaged letters and scrolls (Intelligence check to try and piece together)

State here who is taking what, and I'll update things ASAP.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:51, Sun 03 Jan 2021.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1415 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 21:56
  • msg #888

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Thanks for the loot update, DM.  Regarding the stuff taken from Foehammer's forge, Moira was going to address that when she had the chance to speak with him, as she's the one carrying the majority of his stuff.  She's got every intention of returning the Sword of Vengeance to him but will ask about keeping the Arrows of Slaying - at least the Werewolf one, if he's willing to give it up.

As for the rest; I imagine the Bracers and all the scrolls naturally go to Zaiya, as I think she's the only one who can actually use them.  5e's spell scroll rules always confuse me, but she's certainly the only one who can use the Bracers since they require no armor and shield equipped.  Where's everyone at with potions?  Moira used up all of hers, but I'd rather everyone else be covered before I start pocketing bottles.

For the Tiny Silver Chest: did it yield any information from being Identified/Detect Magick'd?  Is it locked to the point that Moira would need to have a go at it?

For the Ring of Melted Keys: U'lin's "Artisan's Blessing" ability allows one to duplicate items, specifically such as keys, if they have the original on hand.  If the ring of keys are damaged to the point of being unusable/fused together, would U'lin be able to forge functioning versions with his magic?  Or would it just result in an also melted-shaped copy?
Ethgar Longarm
player, 8 posts
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 23:34
  • msg #889

Re: OOC Chat - 004

A magical weapon you have to assemble with skill checks, with the resulting powers depending on the quality of the rolls, is such a good idea for an item! I'm going to have to borrow that for my own games ;-)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1416 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sun 3 Jan 2021
at 23:38
  • msg #890

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Best we hold off on that one though until another day.  With a Divintation Wizard in the party, we can assure high results if the Portents allow it.
GM
GM, 2206 posts
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 03:56
  • msg #891

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah I forgot to elaborate on the chest:

It's nonmagical, but after sleeping on it Zaiya eventually recalls a spell that uses a complex miniature chest worth 500gp as a component: the Secret Chest spell!

Regarding the keys: U'lin could try, but the issue is that he has no idea what the keys are supposed to be shaped like. Think of it as the same problem as restoring the text on a burnt piece of parchment. As it stands the keys might work on their locks...or they might fail. With a 50/50 chance, as Tymora might say ;)

Now if he had time to examine the locks they were for on the other hand, he repair the corresponding key for that lock with channel divinity.

@Moira would you like me to hand wave the conversation with Foehammer? We can assume you speak with him briefly either over breakfast or after the tower regarding the loot.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1417 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 04:42
  • msg #892

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Secret Chest:  Ooh, loot box!  :3  We'd better open that one to recall the bigger chest sooner than later then, since there's a time limit on it.

Foehammer Convo: Yeah, let's just handwave off that bit.  Moira does want to have a more involved conversation with him later, but we don't need to cover this part.  It's easy enough to assume they crossed paths when Moira went to get her cooking supplies from the wagon, and that Moira returned the Sword of Vengeance to him from where she'd hidden it in the Iron Beetle.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:42, Mon 04 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2208 posts
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 05:37
  • msg #893

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sword of Vengeance: Ye steal it, yer keep it. Bloody things your problem now girl! *cackles*

He will hand you the bolts. Doesn't want them anyway, or so he says.

He'll trade the bow for something else of interest from the party. Alternatively, if you're heading to Yartar he'll like you to run an "errand" for him.
Claire Larkspur
player, 847 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 07:30
  • msg #894

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oh, while we're dealing with abridged Foehammer convos: Claire would also show him the letter of introduction that was in her father's vault and tell him about the oathblade's activation. Also half-jokingly ask if he could do anything for her armor.
GM
GM, 2210 posts
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 07:41
  • msg #895

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Oathblade: "huh. That was fast. Guess efficiency runs in the blood. Congrats lass, go throw a party or something. Woo."

Armor: "Nah, dun feel like it. Don't have any good material either."
GM
GM, 2212 posts
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 09:49
  • msg #896

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Loot Tracker has been updated!

Things not yet assigned:

Potion of Climbing, Kegothom's Ointment, Potion of Healing x3 ---> Party has indicated that since these were from Stoors backpack, they will not touch it

Goblin Rust Poison (Lesser)

Scroll of Clairvoyance x2

Alchemist Frost x1

Tattered Letter (written in Draconic) x1 ---> Tentatively assigned to Zaiya, since she can read it now

Sapphire Signet Ring with Crest ---> no one recognized the crest, seems to be some minor noble house

Scroll of Bless x1

Scroll of Purify Food and Drink x1

Charm of Protection from Undead x1

Charm of Protection from Fey x1

Scroll of Detect Poison x1

Paper Birds x2

Binder's Gem Dust ---> again, assigned to Zaiya since she indicated interest in magical materials

Rations x30 (from bandit stores)

Potion of Healing x4

Potion of Greater Healing x1

Potion of Water Breathing x1

Antitoxin x3

Strange Bean (from the Crone) x1 ---> tentatively assigned to Zaiya, unless she chose not to take it?

Secret Chest component --> again, tentatively assigned to Zaiya

Ring of Keys from Hyuth

Damaged Letters and Scrolls from Hyuth
Zaiya Alvina
player, 293 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 19:44
  • msg #897

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, the thing about the wizard scrolls is that I can copy them into my book for later.  There's still the 'Prepared Spells' problem of course but that's something for future Zaiya to worry about--as long as we can keep hoovering money into her budget, she can keep expanding her toolkit.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1418 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 4 Jan 2021
at 20:00
  • msg #898

Re: OOC Chat - 004

The Potion of Climbing was used prior (Moira drank it when infiltrating the Kobold Tower and proceeded to Spider-Man her way around to avoid floor traps), and I believe she threw the Alchemist's Frost into the face of our Uthgardt Werewolf friend during that first chase encounter back on the road.

Also, the Notes section on the Sword of Vengeance made me worried-laugh.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:02, Mon 04 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2213 posts
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 04:17
  • msg #899

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Shall I assume everyone else takes one antitoxin perhaps?

Also, do tell me who is taking which items, especially the potion of healing, before we start the wizard tower. Else I'll auto-assign them to the Wagon (which means nobody is carrying them).
U'lin
player, 1061 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 04:33
  • msg #900

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DMG using scrolls:
A spell scroll bears the words of a single spell, written in a mystical cipher. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any material components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible. Casting the spell by reading the scroll requires the spell’s normal casting time. Once the spell is cast, the words on the scroll fade, and it crumbles to dust. If the casting is interrupted, the scroll is not lost.

If the spell is on your class’s spell list but of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell’s level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the scroll with no other effect.


U'lin:
Potion of Healing
Scroll of Clairvoyance
Potion of Water Breathing x1 (unless Claire wants, as U'lin can dismiss his armour)
Antitoxin
Ring of Keys from Hyuth


Claire?
Scroll of Bless x1
Scroll of Purify Food and Drink x1
Antitoxin
Potion of Healing
Potion of Greater Healing x1

Moira?
Scroll of Detect Poison x1
Paper Birds x2
Antitoxin
Potion of Healing

Zaiya: ?
Strange Bean (from the Crone) x1 ---> tentatively assigned to Zaiya, unless she chose not to take it?
Secret Chest component --> again, tentatively assigned to Zaiya
Damaged Letters and Scrolls from Hyuth (if mendable, U'lin will, though I'm presuming Zaiya is far better as researching/investigation/knowledge skills :)
Potion of Healing

Charm of Protection from Undead x1
Charm of Protection from Fey x1
Are these one-shot uses or permanent items?  Space taken?  Require attunement?  Do we know what they do?
Alchemist Frost x1 [Keep with the chillstone in the Beetle?  For later craftings?]
GM
GM, 2214 posts
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 04:53
  • msg #901

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Charms are the phrasing I'm using for scrolls that do not require a spellcaster or a spell to be on your list to activate. This was brought up before by Moira, who said it was confusing how there were two kinds of scrolls.

Both these charms effectively cast the protection from evil spell, except only tuned to one creature type as listed.

U'lin are you taking both scrolls of clairvoyance? Does Zaiya want the other?

If no one objects to U'lins suggestions, I shall copy them to the loot tracker.
U'lin
player, 1062 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 04:56
  • msg #902

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
Charms are the phrasing I'm using for scrolls that do not require a spellcaster or a spell to be on your list to activate. This was brought up before by Moira, who said it was confusing how there were two kinds of scrolls.
Both these charms effectively cast the protection from evil spell, except only tuned to one creature type as listed.
Gotcha.  Tyk.

U'lin are you taking both scrolls of clairvoyance? Does Zaiya want the other?
I was meaning to take only one - forgot to apply the other to someone :)

If no one objects to U'lins suggestions, I shall copy them to the loot tracker.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1421 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 06:02
  • msg #903

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Looks fine to me, though I am amused that Moira somehow ended up with the paper birds when she's the least likely to want them or even begin to know how to use them.  ^^;

As for the Sword of Vengeance, Moira will stow it in the Wagon with the other off-hand items for the time being, albeit very well hidden and buried out of sight.  Like, wrapped up in a bunch of bundles and packed away, hidden.  She doesn't want to be carrying a cursed item around on her person or have anyone stumble across it.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:07, Tue 05 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2215 posts
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 06:47
  • msg #904

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright I've pretty much updated the loot tracker for the recent claims. I also added a second tab, which should show them items per character - might make it easier for everyone to cross check your own inventory! Of particular note are the "wagon" and "unassigned" columns.

1) Charms - anyone wants em?

2) Scroll of Detect Poison - I'm pretty sure Moira can't use this, not sure why this was assigned to her.

Looks like theres some good conversation going with U'lin, Moira and Foehammer! But, I also want to move things along now. So I'm thinking we either just have U'lin/Moira speak with Foehammer after the tower, or perhaps we can continue the current thread in parallel to a second thread where I'll have the Lord Protector chat with you guys and start the investigation. The two events shouldn't influence each other too significantly, so I think this slight OOT thing should be fine.

Thoughts?
U'lin
player, 1063 posts
2/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 14:10
  • msg #905

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Updated and corrected per above:

U'lin:
Potion of Healing
Scroll of Clairvoyance
Potion of Water Breathing x1 (unless Claire wants, as U'lin can dismiss his armour)
Antitoxin
Ring of Keys from Hyuth
Paper Birds (I thought these were just like messaging spell one-shots, which is why I had allocated to Moira)


Claire?
Scroll of Bless x1
Scroll of Purify Food and Drink x1
Antitoxin
Potion of Healing
Potion of Greater Healing x1
Scroll of Detect Poison x1
Charm of Protection from Fey x1


Moira?
Charm of Protection from Undead x1
Antitoxin
Potion of Healing


Zaiya: ?
Strange Bean (from the Crone) x1 ---> tentatively assigned to Zaiya, unless she chose not to take it?
Secret Chest component --> again, tentatively assigned to Zaiya
Damaged Letters and Scrolls from Hyuth (if mendable, U'lin will, though I'm presuming Zaiya is far better as researching/investigation/knowledge skills :)
Potion of Healing
Paper Birds
Scroll of Clairvoyance



Alchemist Frost x1 [Keep with the chillstone in the Beetle?  For later craftings?]
U'lin
player, 1066 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 17:00
  • msg #906

Re: OOC Chat - 004

had to play up Mommy Moira a bit there :)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1422 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 18:19
  • msg #907

Re: OOC Chat - 004


U'lin
player, 1068 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 18:21
  • msg #908

Re: OOC Chat - 004

When you try, oh so hard, to a third time engage the POS NPC.

“I could do is look at yer stupid crap”
“can’t tell much.”
“Shamastic bullshite, as usual…
“Stupid too. … restoring this crap is a waste of time. … Easier ta just make yer own Hammer of Returning from scratch”

And for bonus:
“Just like that stupid bow! Its disgusting. I dinnah know why ah even bothered lookin' at that thing…”


So Zaiya, about those fireballs.... or did we need ammunition for the Beetle's catapults?
GM
GM, 2220 posts
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 18:28
  • msg #909

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
IMAGE


Hehe.

Part of me feels kind of horrible for doing this to U'lin. His disappointment is painful to read >_<

The other part of me is unapologetically enjoying this schadenfreude.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:28, Tue 05 Jan 2021.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1423 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 18:51
  • msg #910

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I dunno, I thought that was actually a very helpful conversation so long as one reads between the lines at what's actually being said.

quote:
I dinnah give a rats-ass about coin. I just wanted the smug lil'shit who shoved a random nugget of ore in mah face while me city burned around me and asked tah look at it fer him like I was some two-copper tinsmith ta take a hike ofta nearest cliff,


Translation: I have bigger things to worry about and now is not the time, and I choose to respond with callous behavior regardless of the consequences.

quote:
I am not a mastersmith. Never claimed ta be. T'was just a title folk stuck on me after I made some fancy gear fer a few nobles'ere and there."

"...'sides, not like I've made anythin'worth smithin' in the last ten years."


Translation, along with earlier mutterings about not being allowed to drink because of his health: My morale and ego are at rock bottom as a result of my own failures and circumstances beyond my control, I'm suffering imposter syndrome, and I've been in a slump for the past decade despite clearly being of skill and use to Triboar.

quote:
"I guess if yer offerin' me use of yer tools in rebuildin' me town, the least I could do is look at yer stupid crap,"


Translation: I'm way too proud to actually say thank you, so I have to couch it in the form of a trade.  It's not like I'm actually grateful or interested, b-baka! >///>

quote:
Everything analyzing the various items presented to him


Translation: I'm a traditionalist with a very focused field of study.  These mystical/spiritual-based items are outside of my specialty and I have no idea how they work, so I treat them with disdain rather than admitting that I just don't understand them.
U'lin
player, 1070 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Tue 5 Jan 2021
at 20:56
  • msg #911

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Moira lingered off the way a bit ...
"I'm proud of ya', love.  We'll give it another go later, yea?" she offered with a fond pat at U'lin's thigh as they went.

We have a work jest/maxim:
"And that, Your Honour, ..." [is what started the fight/led to the murder charges at trial...]
GM
GM, 2222 posts
Wed 6 Jan 2021
at 01:52
  • msg #912

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Quick check, but can everyone see the new thread as well? The one with the briefing by Daratha?
U'lin
player, 1071 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Wed 6 Jan 2021
at 05:42
  • msg #913

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yessir.

I was holding for Moira's lead, but if she isn't able to post by morning, I'll post U'lin jumping in all apologetically like :P
GM
GM, 2223 posts
Wed 6 Jan 2021
at 10:12
  • msg #914

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah okay that's good to know. Was worried it wasn't visible. Hopefully the thread isn't too overwhelming xD

If folks are bothered by walls of text/infodumps like this, do tell me (here or PM is fine). Feedback lets me adjust the style/flow of the game to better suit the group.
U'lin
player, 1073 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 14:02
  • msg #915

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Catapult launch a number of hooks on knotted ropes, hope one hook secures enough to climb more easily?
GM
GM, 2228 posts
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 14:39
  • msg #916

Re: OOC Chat - 004

You know, I was not expecting a "flood the gates" approach, but yea. The hatch is pretty big, its open, you guys have enough time to set up the catapult to fire. If you use a catapult to fire multiple hooks and use all of them as supports...that'll make for a pretty low DC. I'll say DC 13 Athletics to climb up. Assuming you manage to go through all of that.

All this of course, is based only on information you currently know.
This message was last edited by the GM at 14:39, Thu 07 Jan 2021.
U'lin
player, 1074 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 15:47
  • msg #917

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
You know, I was not expecting a "flood the gates" approach, but yea. The hatch is pretty big, its open, you guys have enough time to set up the catapult to fire. If you use a catapult to fire multiple hooks and use all of them as supports...that'll make for a pretty low DC. I'll say DC 13 Athletics to climb up. Assuming you manage to go through all of that.

All this of course, is based only on information you currently know.

Oh, of course.  Unknowns are anticipated, especially inside.  Thanks for the caution/warning, however.
U'lin
player, 1076 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 15:58
  • msg #918

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Could U'lin craft custom carabiners, that would prevent falling more than five feet, from knot to knot?  It would certainly be a slower climb, but safer.

Or would such carabiners be standard, say in a city's guard supply?
GM
GM, 2229 posts
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 16:20
  • msg #919

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm going to say that Carbiners are not a known invention, and are not available for player or widespread use.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1427 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 17:54
  • msg #920

Re: OOC Chat - 004

My original thought was using the Iron Beetle's launchers to get the hooks up there since that'd be the easiest/most reliable way to get the proper strength and aiming calibration, since it can be tested and adjusted before attempting for real.  As for the lines, chain would be preferable but rope with intermittent knots set along its length to aid in climbing would do in a pinch.  Basically a poor man's "Rope of Climbing" to function in the place of add-ons like pitons or carabiners.

One of the Rope of Climbing's Abilities:
If you tell the rope to knot, large knots appear at 1-foot intervals along the rope. While knotted, the rope shortens to a 50-foot length and grants advantage on checks made to climb it.


As for equipment, I'll leave everyone else to figure out what they're asking for.  I'm assuming the "no alchemy" rule means no vials of acid.  Moira would like to requisition the following, on the condition that she intends to use them in the Tower and gives absolutely no assurance any of it will be returned whole/functional:

- 2 Cases of 20 Crossbow Bolts (The armory isn't getting these back period, so Moira will pay for them if necessary)

- 1 Backpack Parachute https://5e.tools/items.html#backpack%20parachute_wdh
- 2 Bags of Ballbearings
- 1 Blanket
- 1 Block and Tackle https://5e.tools/items.html#block%20and%20tackle_phb
- 5 Candles
- 1 Fishing Tackle
- 1 Grappling Hook
- 5 Ink (1-ounce bottle)
- 2 Locks
- 1 Magnifying Glass
- 2 Manacles
- 5 Oil Flasks
- 2 Perfume Vials
- 2 Rope, Hempen
- 5 Sealing Wax
- 1 Sling
- 2 Sling Bullet Bags (40 ammo total)
- 1 Spyglass
- 1 Staff
- 1 set of Thieves' Tools
GM
GM, 2230 posts
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:09
  • msg #921

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No acid is correct.

Backpack Parachutes are a WDH item and not on the standard equipment lists I'm afraid, so the armory does not have it.

Its a bit odd for a keep to have perfume, but lets just say you acquire it from among the nobility/officers who have a stash.

Everything else is good.



Adding knots to a regular rope does not grant advantage to climb it. It will lower the DC, which was already accounted for in U'lins scenario. My reasoning here is that there is nothing in the regular rope description that states that knotting it grants advantage, and that from a challenge standpoint, its trivial to simply get more rope and knot it in any scenario (basically, there is nearly zero cost to gaining advantage in this scenario, and I do not consider adding knots to a climbing rope particularly creative).

As for why it works for a Rope of Climbing: magic.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:10, Thu 07 Jan 2021.
U'lin
player, 1077 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:15
  • msg #922

Re: OOC Chat - 004

A knotted rope is way, way easier to climb.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1428 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:24
  • msg #923

Re: OOC Chat - 004

For the perfume, it doesn't have to be actual perfume or anything nice smelling - just something overtly aromatic and clinging in liquid form.  Could just as easily be some smelly grease emulsified in a jar of water, for example.  But thanks either way; I'm good to go with that, then.

No worries on the backpack parachute.  That was basically a "well, if something goes completely wrong immediately and I have to dive off the top of the tower..." failsafe, given the height of the tower versus the distance limit of deployment.  Not having it is no big deal.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:25, Thu 07 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2231 posts
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:37
  • msg #924

Re: OOC Chat - 004

U'lin:
A knotted rope is way, way easier to climb.


Yeap. That was accounted with a lowered DC. the original DC to climb 70ft of tower was 17, increases with a poor plan to fix the hook, decreases with a good plan. Plus other factors like knotting it and you get the DC of 13.

You can always try other means to grant Advantage ;)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1429 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:40
  • msg #925

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Give us enough time and we'll figure out a way to Block-and-Tackle a pulley system to get Glory up there with us.  :3
Claire Larkspur
player, 850 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:41
  • msg #926

Re: OOC Chat - 004

*confused neighing*
GM
GM, 2232 posts
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 18:43
  • msg #927

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sure :D

I'm sure she'll fit through the doors...?

I'll push things forward in another 6-7 hours to the tower itself, barring additional questions.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:43, Thu 07 Jan 2021.
U'lin
player, 1078 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 19:00
  • msg #928

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Give us enough time and we'll figure out a way to Block-and-Tackle a pulley system to get Glory up there with us.  :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw
Jez sayin'
U'lin
player, 1079 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 19:02
  • msg #929

Re: OOC Chat - 004

DM:
You can always try other means to grant Advantage ;)
We secure the rope ends to the Beetle, to secure the bottom as well.
... for advantage on the check?
GM
GM, 2233 posts
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 19:12
  • msg #930

Re: OOC Chat - 004

That would...stabilize the rope I guess? It would interfere with the blanket catchers though since the beetle would be in the way, but I'll say it would reduce the DC by 1.

Gonna sleep now, check later
Zaiya Alvina
player, 295 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 19:43
  • msg #931

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So, is anyone here good at athletics?  Or is this even after we get the rope up?
Claire Larkspur
player, 851 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 20:18
  • msg #932

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I have a +5 to Athletics, and I'd imagine one could justify an acrobatics check too.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1430 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 20:23
  • msg #933

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira is decidedly not good at Athletics with a -1 modifier to her roll.  Acrobatics is her bread-and-butter.

And yeah, the Athletics check is after the climbing line is mounted successfully, as scaling a 70-foot tall tower via vertical rope climb is pretty rough no matter what.  Like DM said, all our finagling at the moment is just working to lower the base DC as much as we can.  Ideally we get our best climber/strongest person to the top, have them anchor themselves to something solid, and then they Assist the next person climbing by helping to haul them up in order to grant them Advantage.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

Presumably it would be Claire and Zaiya up first, for the sake of making the climb successfully and to give Zaiya time to figure out the abjuration wards while U'lin and Moira follow.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:24, Thu 07 Jan 2021.
U'lin
player, 1080 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 20:55
  • msg #934

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Or good person climbs, then pulls up the next person in a rope lift (who holds onto rope2 to help guiding, and to provide something to hold onto)

Oh yes, and Guidance, Guidance, rah-rah-rah!
U'lin
player, 1081 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 7 Jan 2021
at 21:02
  • msg #935

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Presumably it would be Claire and Zaiya up first, for the sake of making the climb successfully and to give Zaiya time to figure out the abjuration wards while U'lin and Moira follow.
Just because...

the kobold tower climb:
In an impressive feature defying gravity, U'lin's boot slipped off its lichen-covered toehold just as U'lin shifted his weight up to reach higher.  His elevated centre of gravity -worsened by heavy armour, and yet again by extended reach- flipped him boots-over-head and pealed him in an ironic fashion against the fortress wall protecting the very creatures against whom U'lins musical attack had recently struck.
"Ah... oops."

Also - climber's kit already grants advantage, and we are using it to help.
The fastening to the Beetle was more for flavour and fun :)

And Guidance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Tsrn0U4hQ
"And that's what you get..."
GM
GM, 2235 posts
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 02:50
  • msg #936

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya:
So, is anyone here good at athletics?  Or is this even after we get the rope up?


I try to make it a point to make every skill relevant. If you're gonna climb towers as a 8 strength wizard, you get what you dumped for :P

U'lin:
Also - climber's kit already grants advantage, and we are using it to help.


It does not.

https://roll20.net/compendium/...mber's%20kit#content

Moira Ruadh:
Ideally we get our best climber/strongest person to the top, have them anchor themselves to something solid, and then they Assist the next person climbing by helping to haul them up in order to grant them Advantage.  Lather, rinse, repeat.


However I would say this does grant Advantage as part of a Help action since you guys are also launching multiple ropes- however someone needs to be safely on the roof first.

Fastening to the Beetle will lower the climb DC to 12, but will prevent the blanket crew from working as the beetle is literally blocking the way. So party choice of the safety net or a lower climb DC.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1431 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 04:06
  • msg #937

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'd personally prefer a safety net to negate fall damage on a proper save, rather than lowering the DC by 1 and risking taking a bunch of damage on a bad roll, myself.
GM
GM, 2236 posts
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 04:36
  • msg #938

Re: OOC Chat - 004

So...how do you want to approach it? Who is going up first?

Does Zaiya want to take a look at stuff on the ground floor herself? Or are we moving straight to launching the hooks from the Beetle?
U'lin
player, 1082 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 05:01
  • msg #939

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya sees what she can when we arrive, in case that changes plans.
'pult up the hooks and knotted ropes.  Secure to Beetle.
Use climbing kit, U'lin Guidance Claire.

Claire climbs, ready to slide back down if she judges we need alternate plan.
If seems safe, she pulls up/helps Zaiya climb, with kit and Guidance, to start working on ward bypassing.
Then Moira, kit/guidance, in case they need manual defeating of locks, or her skill in breaking magical trap/connections.  (also leaves U'lin alone, but best able to survive solo until party returns).
Then U'lin joins if room (kit/guidance).

Moira:
I'd personally prefer a safety net to negate fall damage on a proper save, rather than lowering the DC by 1 and risking taking a bunch of damage on a bad roll, myself.
  How about a safety net set up beneath the aerie entry?  Attach to opposite side houses, etc?
Surely nets and bolts would be accessible from the armoury?
Claire Larkspur
player, 852 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 05:33
  • msg #940

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I could go up first! Also, agreed on the safety net and U'lin's battle plan.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:34, Fri 08 Jan 2021.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1432 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 05:36
  • msg #941

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I think Claire is best to go first for the STR score.  Goodness knows Moira and Zaiya with their noodle arms are going to need all the help they can get!
GM
GM, 2237 posts
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 06:13
  • msg #942

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No nearby side houses. No one wants to be near the moody wizard.

Nets and bolts are available.

Either the Beetle is parked below the aerie entrance, letting you secure the other end of the rope, or a team is there with blankets as a safety net. You aren't saying anything that convinces me that you can squeeze both.

No the safety net team is not going to tap dance on top of the Beetle, as hilarious as that image is.

You are welcome to try and attach things directly to the side of the tower itself :)



Zaiya will need to tell me what she's examining and any spells she's casting before I can tell her what she observes and if any checks are required
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:18, Fri 08 Jan 2021.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1434 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 06:21
  • msg #943

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, my vote goes to having some folk with a blanket safety net on hand.  Better to have two rolls than one.

Also, DM - is Acrobatics applicable for the climbing check at all?  Or is it exclusively Athletics?
This message was last edited by the player at 06:21, Fri 08 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2238 posts
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 06:24
  • msg #944

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmmm...I want to say no, but looking around there's some argument about climbing via technique instead of strength.

I'd say Moira can attempt an Acrobatics (Strength) check- using her skill in acrobatics, but since this is primarily an exercise that requires grip and upper-body strength it remains a Strength check.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1435 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 06:31
  • msg #945

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Well, there's always climbing via Performance check.  :3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3OqiX0Y9no

But yeah, I agree with you.  It'd be one thing if there was more terrain to work with, but this really is just a vertical climb and Moira is carrying a fair deal of gear with her, so a straight-forward STR-based check gets no complaints from me.  Being able to apply my Acrobatics skill instead of Athletics nets me a +5 to the roll, so that's very generous in the end.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:33, Fri 08 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2240 posts
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 07:00
  • msg #946

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea for future reference if Moira was gonna try to do the ninja warrior thing to parkour up the side of an alleyway I would allow a regular acrobatics check (dc may be higher though since that shit is hard)

Also performers and the like are crazy fit I highly doubt they dumped strength. I know someone who pole dances as a hobby and their grip/arm strength is insane. Even if they are pretty light some of the moves involve supporting 50kg of human body perpendicular to the floor with just your arms.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1436 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 07:10
  • msg #947

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Agreed on that point; a lot of people point to something like ballet as being an example of high DEX while ignoring that ballet dancers have crazy leg and core strength.  It's really more a shortcoming of a game system trying to simplify things into easily modular mechanics not quite meshing with how reality actually works.

Strictly speaking, Moira isn't weak - she has a 8/-1 STR score and a carrying capacity of 120 lbs, which means she's only just slightly below the game's mechanical average.  And since D&D's mechanical average is a Human Commoner with 10/+0 straight down the board, it actually makes sense that a person half the size and a fraction of the weight of your average adult Human wouldn't quite have the same muscle power.  But when the question comes down to raw mechanics and math, the -1 modifier and lack of Proficiency Bonus makes a big difference.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:16, Fri 08 Jan 2021.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 296 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 8 Jan 2021
at 20:41
  • msg #948

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah, I'm just thinking, and work's been a bit hectic the past few days (Though the run as a whole has been fine).  I'll try to get something off before I head to my next shift.
GM
GM, 2241 posts
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 04:05
  • msg #949

Re: OOC Chat - 004

No problem. The party may need Zaiya in the loop soon, since a wizards tower is kind of her wheelhouse. Hope your schedule gets better :)
GM
GM, 2242 posts
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 04:59
  • msg #950

Re: OOC Chat - 004

While that's happening, does anyone want to take a look around the tower themselves?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1437 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 05:03
  • msg #951

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I already had Moira taking a look around the circuit of it in prior narration, so there's no harm in tossing an observation skill check onto that.  What would work best, DM?  Perception or Investigation?

I only rolled a 10, so it's either:
Perception: 14
Investigation: 10
U'lin
player, 1083 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 05:05
  • msg #952

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
While that's happening, does anyone want to take a look around the tower themselves?

I would think U'lin would be on overwatch near the entrance, not searching out.
I'll yield that to Moira.
Claire Larkspur
player, 854 posts
AC 16, PP: 10
Con:1 Int:-1 Cha:5 Etc:2
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 05:25
  • msg #953

Re: OOC Chat - 004

@GM I've posted my Athletics check as an edit to my post, sorry for not mentioning it earlier!

Also "This thread is nearing the 1,000 post limit.  Please request your GM creates a new thread."
GM
GM, 2243 posts
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 05:31
  • msg #954

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Claire Larkspur:
Also "This thread is nearing the 1,000 post limit.  Please request your GM creates a new thread."


Wow you people yap a lot don't you. *silently ignores how a good third of the posts are theirs*

Lets go with Perception. In the interests of keeping things moving, I will just resolve Claires thing first and allow some rollback if Zaiya's stuff changes the party's decisions.

EDIT: Lets just keep using this till we hit 980 or something.
This message was last edited by the GM at 05:42, Sat 09 Jan 2021.
Zaiya Alvina
player, 297 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Sat 9 Jan 2021
at 20:08
  • msg #955

Re: OOC Chat - 004

GM:
No problem. The party may need Zaiya in the loop soon, since a wizards tower is kind of her wheelhouse. Hope your schedule gets better :)


Worst case scenario, tuesday is my last night working here.  But hopefully I shouldn't need that long to add something.
GM
GM, 2247 posts
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 06:08
  • msg #956

Re: OOC Chat - 004

:< Hope things are going okay Zaiya

Stay strong folks. Between Covid and politics, things are rough out there, but I wish everyone the best in these trying times.
GM
GM, 2248 posts
Sun 10 Jan 2021
at 15:02
  • msg #957

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Realised I forgot to mention that the DC for attempting to disable the ground floor glyphs is 17 (or a dispel magic).

Figured it might affect how the party wants to approach.
GM
GM, 2250 posts
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 04:39
  • msg #958

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Huh those are some interesting suggestions. Moira can attempt thieves tools, but the DC is higher at 21 (DC 20 for the ground floor).

Zaiya, note that the book grants advantage on information, not disabling wards.

I would say that you can aid each other, though that means both of you need to be standing right in front of the ward.

Anyway, as long as you guys don't do anything ra-

U'lin:
"If you don't feel confident on disabling the trap, and neither does Moira, let's try the Beetle lobbing up a bigger piece of broken masonry to scratch off the rune from a safe distance - you can stay on one side away, or come back down.


Uh. Y-you are welcome to try sieging the tower I guess? There may be consequences of attacking it directly though.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:40, Mon 11 Jan 2021.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1439 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 04:57
  • msg #959

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hm... would Zaiya's direct assistance to Moira lower the DC or grant Advantage?  As it stands, Moira has a +9 to her Thieves' Tool check, so it would need a 12 and above to success.  So any edge that could be given would help.
U'lin
player, 1085 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 05:56
  • msg #960

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Guidance before you go up
GM
GM, 2251 posts
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 07:29
  • msg #961

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Hm... would Zaiya's direct assistance to Moira lower the DC or grant Advantage?  As it stands, Moira has a +9 to her Thieves' Tool check, so it would need a 12 and above to success.  So any edge that could be given would help.


This would fall under Aid Another- two skills that apply to a situation, both PCs have prof, one aiding the other.

So Moira would have advantage (but then, Zaiya and Moira both need to risk the ward going off in their faces).
Moira Ruadh
player, 1440 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Mon 11 Jan 2021
at 22:43
  • msg #962

Re: OOC Chat - 004

I'm game.  Zaiya, you'd be the other one in the blast radius, so what's your call?
GM
GM, 2252 posts
Tue 12 Jan 2021
at 06:38
  • msg #963

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Hmm, Moira why not you roll first, record both rolls and let's see if Zaiya confirms anything sometime in the next 20 hours.

If she does not, I will take the roll without advantage (the "left" dice). Just so things don't stall here.

I realise this puts undue pressure on Zaiya since you guys will see both rolls. Let's just wait. If Zaiya doesn't respond in another 20 hours Moira, just make the roll without advantage.
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:40, Tue 12 Jan 2021.
GM
GM, 2253 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 07:28
  • msg #964

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alright in the interests of not stalling things, Moira please make the roll without advantage, we will assume Zaiya is standing aside for now (unless she responds soon).
Moira Ruadh
player, 1441 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 08:51
  • msg #965

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Should I make the climb check as well, or is it just assumed to be a given at this point from the various precautions we've set up already?
GM
GM, 2254 posts
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 10:25
  • msg #966

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Ah, make the climb check too please :P
Zaiya Alvina
player, 300 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 19:02
  • msg #967

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Just give me until tomorrow, I just finished driving home and I'm just waiting for my body to crash out before passing out
U'lin
player, 1086 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Wed 13 Jan 2021
at 23:20
  • msg #968

Re: OOC Chat - 004

We do need to pick up the pace on things, though.
It's been over a week and we haven't even _entered_ the first room.
GM
GM, 2255 posts
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 01:15
  • msg #969

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yea I'm gonna say that this has stalled for long enough. I anticipated a degree of discussion since this -is- a complex wizard tower and the party has every right to be cautious, but it really should not be taking this long to get past one trap.

Please attempt the check(s) Moira. You still.have Guidance. I'll update asap once you have rolled.
GM
GM, 2257 posts
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 05:25
  • msg #970

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Urk, just saw the post Moira. Apologies for the delay.

U'lin, feel free to climb up whenever you want. Just make the athletics check, guidance and advantage both apply. Mainly, this is to see if the party takes any falling damage from trying to get onto the roof (so far none xD)
Moira Ruadh
player, 1443 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 05:37
  • msg #971

Re: OOC Chat - 004

How far is it from the roof hatch where the party is perched into the top floor of the tower?  If those suits of armor attack, can they actually reach us?
GM
GM, 2258 posts
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 05:40
  • msg #972

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Roof is about 20ft up, so no.

Not with their swords at least.
GM
GM, 2259 posts
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 07:58
  • msg #973

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Just noticed, but for the record Moira I originally said the DC for using thieves tools instead of an Arcana check to disable the glyphs is higher- 21 vs 18.

For future attempts, I think a Thieves Tools (Intelligence) check at the same DC makes more sense. I originally set a higher DC because it seemed like thieves tools would be slightly "off tangent" for solving the problem, but realised 1) classically, in DnD rogues were the ones that disabled magical traps anyway and 2) penalizing people for using less-than-ideal skills for a task isn't the kind of game I want.

However I did want a way to reflect that this is different from disarming a non-magical trap. Hence, Intelligence instead of Dex for magical vs non-magical traps. Hope this makes sense to you guys.

EDIT: I also updated the original message to include the changes to Zaiya's detect magic sight, as well as fixing an issue that had the Primordial text as secret instead of just scrambled (not that anyone in the party can speak Primordial)
This message was last edited by the GM at 08:03, Thu 14 Jan 2021.
U'lin
player, 1089 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 19:06
  • msg #974

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Absent anything else, let's do an "everyone let loose ranged/cantrip damage on the left armor, repeat if it's still up" and repeat when down for the right if it doesn't retreat?
Moira Ruadh
player, 1445 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 19:30
  • msg #975

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Alternate Skill Checks
Thanks for the catch on the higher DC, DM.  I lost it amid all the OOC math, but Moira still made the check either way since even using her +0 INT mod still rolls in at 23.

For things like INT being used for magical disarming, I'd agree but for the sake of certain context.  Moira applies mundane solutions to magical problems and thus far has based all her work entirely on using precision tools and dexterity, so I feel it's more akin to the more classically accepted "Use STR instead of CHA for Intimidation checks" route that allows musclebound characters to actually be as physically imposing as they logically should.

I think using INT instead of DEX would apply if Moira was attempting to disable a magical trap without having the aid of someone trained in Arcana at her side.  So long as she has a "magical bomb squad specialist" assisting her to explain what the magic is and how it works, it seems reasonable to me she'd be able to address the problem with deftness of hand.  If she doesn't have someone like Zaiya telling her whether to snip the red wire versus the blue wire - let alone that such proverbial wires are even there at all - then she reasonably wouldn't have any understanding and have to rely on her +0 INT mod and a whole lot of luck.

Living Armor
I'm down for the "fish in a barrel" approach, yeah.
U'lin
player, 1090 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 19:38
  • msg #976

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Living Armor
I'm down for the "fish in a barrel" approach, yeah.
Our reward for the climb above.  I like it.
GM
GM, 2262 posts
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 19:41
  • msg #977

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Alternate Skill Checks
I think using INT instead of DEX would apply if Moira was attempting to disable a magical trap without having the aid of someone trained in Arcana at her side.  So long as she has a "magical bomb squad specialist" assisting her to explain what the magic is and how it works, it seems reasonable to me she'd be able to address the problem with deftness of hand.  If she doesn't have someone like Zaiya telling her whether to snip the red wire versus the blue wire - let alone that such proverbial wires are even there at all - then she reasonably wouldn't have any understanding and have to rely on her +0 INT mod and a whole lot of luck.


Fair point, I'll accept this reasoning (and the use of Dex) provided Zaiya first manages to succeed on her own Int check to analyze a given magical trap.
Moira Ruadh
player, 1446 posts
AC 16 | PP/I 13 | Inti +6
S -1, D +3, I +2, ETC +1
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 19:46
  • msg #978

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Sound good to me, DM.  And it offers an interesting alternative mechanic to the usual "Assist other = Advantage" approach.
U'lin
player, 1091 posts
38/38HP AC22 PP21 Crafter
+3/1/3/1/8/3
Thu 14 Jan 2021
at 21:28
  • msg #979

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Moira Ruadh:
Sound good to me, DM.  And it offers an interesting alternative mechanic to the usual "Assist other = Advantage" approach.
agreed
GM
GM, 2263 posts
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 02:51
  • msg #980

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Zaiya? Claire? Are you guys okay with Moira and U'lins plan to just attack the armors from the hatch? Any additional spells you want to cast or prepare beforehand?
Zaiya Alvina
player, 302 posts
HP: 32/32; AC 12 (15/20)
Ini: +2, pP: 10, pI: 16
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 06:00
  • msg #981

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Yeah!  Sorry about that, spent most of the day in bed, there's something for you.
GM
GM, 2265 posts
Fri 15 Jan 2021
at 06:28
  • msg #982

Re: OOC Chat - 004

Responded! Do confirm if you are on board with Moira's plan, in light of the new information.

I'll be creating a new OOC thread and locking this one soon. Do migrate over!
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