I made the choice to try & maximize party damage again & failed.  I can only use one power per turn.

I’m going to focus on preventing the next breath, which is what I wanted to do in the surprise round but got side tracked...

I did see that, but I wasn't sure if you included the AC penalty from being blinded.
I am of good alignment, I rolled the fort saves as part of the attack and made all of them except the last one (which only matters if that attack hit thanks to the blindness AC penalty).

In reply to Musa Agasi (msg # 827):

Yeah, knowing if the thing was blinded was the big one. Now we know it was not, we'll need to focus on other things.

Qvan, if you're not sure which dragon to go, I'd suggest Silver; these things don't seem immune to paralysis, and being able to catch both with that kind of debuff at once (I can push them close enough to make that possible next turn) might help us win this faster. And I believe breath weapons generally have recharge times, so we should have two or three rounds at least where the first one will be slightly less of a threat, since I imagine we all have better defenses against other spells - Reflex seems to be the weakest save for everybody, according to the table.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:56, Fri 27 Nov 2020.

I do not update the AC values based on the effects, no. Just wanted to point it out in case you might not have realized it was there :)

I did see it, thanks!

08:56, Today: Musa Agasi rolled 1 using 1d4.  blind rounds.

Bah


If Qvan and Zhira can get to within 30 feet of each other, I can cast mass heal to fully heal everyone and remove daze and ability damage conditions (as applicable). But all targets needs to be within 30 feet of all other targets, and currently the three most injured people (Aryk, Zhira, and Qvan) are all far away from each other. On the other hand, if we bunch up we are more easily targeted. So Musa will wait until after Qvan and Zhira's turn, and then either cast mass heal or continue full attacking the blinded daemon depending on what they do.

I have more than enough movement to get next to Qvan, and I can wait to let Aryk act first so that he can get to a position that is good for that, and I can then place myself properly for a good heal.

I will be able to use my Swift Action this turn and will have a lot of Tension to spend on it, so that's either extra movement or an additional attack, and with Qvan's second wall making it impossible to slam enemies into each other, I think focusing on finishing the one we've already wounded with some severity would be the best play this round.

So, if everybody wants to go first, that's fine for me - and if you want me to move first instead and then see what you can do after I've put another hundred damage on the thing, just say so and I'll go for it.

Alright, I'm gonna end up doing a ranged attack then.

These demons don't have a vulnerability to bright light or count as undead, do they?

Nope, they do not.

I went with blue dragon for the line breath. When I shape change I only get the base damage breath, not the condition inducing one.
I regret not having memorised more quickened spells now...

Well, it will be something to remember for the future, right? :D

Sorry I should have clarified my position, my aim was to fly down to just south of the demon — Zhira if that clashes with your actions I can go somewhere else.

We're in the air - you can use 3d movement to be, say, 20 ft in the air above or below Zhira without trouble, and if you set yourself so as to also be within 30 ft from Aryk, that would let him heal all three of us at once. I don't think that engineering our positions so that they work off well should be too hard, right?

Yeah I was just trying to get to a position that gives flanking, but that may be irrelevant.

In reply to Qvan Ibn Hamid (msg # 838):

Flanking generally only matters for sneak attacks - well, the attack bonus can be useful against particularly slippery enemies, but I don't know that these daemons qualify - and I don't think any of us is a rogue-type? Unless there's some other benefit to flanking that I'm forgetting; with how many rules PF has, that's always possible. :)

Flanking grants +2 to hit, which is always nice. At this level, your first attack almost always hits, but for those of us who use iterative attacks more often, adding attack bonuses to help make those later attacks hit more often really ups damage.

In reply to Musa Agasi (msg # 840):

Fair enough; I did just said earlier that "to hit" bonuses are the best, I've not suddenly forgotten that. I just meant that other options exists for attack boosting (such as imposing debuffs like you did with Blinded) that can generally do more than flanking. Sneak Attacks on the other hand are very hard to come by without either Greater Invisibility or Flanking, and Flanking works on more things than Invisibility, especially at higher levels.

But indeed, every little bit helps. Although, with you having announced you would be healing, you didn't really need the flanking bonus, did you? :)

Six out of seven attacks rolling under 10...grand! Stupid daemon..*grumble grumble*

I guess Olethro #1 still provokes an OA from making a ranged attack while threatened, now that I think about it.

Also, did you roll its miss-chance vs me? The blinding aura also gives me a constant blur-like effect (20% miss-chance).

Did not, thanks for the reminder. But it made the check (see dice roller).

 Just realised, Qvan would provoke an aoo when leaving Olethro 1 – assuming he's still alive when Qvan takes his action.

It is, but let's say it has other things on its mind right now. Don't feel like updating my post again :)

 +28 will save ! I'm going to struggle to get anything past these guys... let's go back to targeting their reflexes!!

I'm going to be very busy today, so updates will have to wait until tomorrow most likely.