Caran has had limited but mutually beneficial relations with them for years, so this is both new and and becoming a serious problem. The farmers, herders and Foresters are all up in arms and several occasions have traded arrows. To date none of our people have been killed, but animals and produce have been stollen, and several women man handled.  The last straw was earlier this week when a comely young lass was kidnapped.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 1):

Mustafa relished the task. Believing many of the nobles displaced were behind the issues, he looked forward to the chance to prove that.

Is he able to take a mule with a tent, group basics and some food and water?

You are given two good horses and a mule with needed camping gear. You are also granted remount rights by the Duke's Chamberlain.
Lileth does "Need to get a few things" before leaving, but she is not long in obtaining them.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 3):

Then we head out, also making sure we have sufficient ammunition, including a quiver of silvered ammo.

It takes 4 days of hard riding to get to Squire Worley's Manse.

You arrive at the gate to a fairly large protected area with a 10' high wall around the House, Barn/stables, a Cook house and several smaller sheds and houses.
The guard and five others quickly block your way with spears backed by two bowmen. But the Duke's writ with his seal quickly alters the greeting to  oe of respect and a man is sent running for the main house. You are dircted to the front entry as well and boys come from the stables to take care of your animals.
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Kenyan moves to greet the visitors, "Hello, I'm Kenyan. I've been expecting you. But unfortunately I didn't catch your names. But do come in. Something to wash away the trail dust, perhaps? Unless you wish to retire for a while?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 6):

Mustafa and Lilith look at each other, knowing that their names are on the writ.

"I am Mustafa, as per the writ. Are you a representative of the Lord of these lands?"

"Aren't we all to some degree,"Kenyan answers obliquely before returning to the point. "I am Squire Kenyan Worley and direct affairs in these lands at the Duke's pleasure. I have yet to have the pleasure of examining your writ but was keen to expedite your reception. " He waits with a smile as the writ catches up to him. "So, be welcome here. Your horses and so forth will be well cared for. So what is your pleasure?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 8):

"We have spent 4 days riding hard, and are here to help with the wildings problem. But first, a good nights rest."

"So shall it be," says the Squire and the pair are offered plentiful but unexceptional fare and modest wine, refreshments and two adjacent sleeping chambers. They are comfortable if totally unexceptional.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 10):

Mustafa does not need fine fare, but noting the separate sleeping arrangements, he does ask "You know we are married, right?"

"I do now, sir, and madam. Both rooms have beds fit for two. Choose as suits you. One is predominantly green and the other mostly wood."

The Writ basiclly says these two people are on the Duke's business and are to be aided in everyway possible.
You got a message from the Duke yesterday saying they were coming and would aid you in investigating this issue.
You have had a place where your people and the wildings would go and wait, the other side watched and would then join you at that location within a day or so to talk and trade..

So how do you want us to play it out?

How ever you see the Squire doing it...  I try to lay out a situation, and let you gys deal with it as you see fit ... then we carry on with th fallout or reactions of what you have done.

(I think we just ran with what we had and improv-ed the surrounding bits. Going to wait for the others to post).

So, Come Morning, a refreshed Mustafa and Lileth come back into the public rooms/great hall...

We thank you for the opportunity to rest and recover some from a rushed trip.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 17):

Mustafa asks for details regarding the Wildlings. What are they doing, what has changed, how do you normally meet, who are their leaders, etc.

Kenyan greets them cordially and provides all the details that he knows.

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OOC: Looks to GM for fill in..

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 19):

Msg 13 does that for the moment. The squire seldom attends such things and only shows up once everyone is there when he does.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 20):

Right. What do they usually trade? And how often? Who are their known leaders?

Skins, wood carvings, rustic leather goods, jerky,wool from animals native to their lands*, nuts from trees that grow in the higher reaches they live in, assorted herbs etc.

The mountain goat and other wools are stronger and a bit rougher than that of domestic animals. They never have a lot of it, but woodsmen and the like are willing buyers for it's tough fibers and ability to shed moisture up through light rain. It readily accepts some dyes, and can be made into a mottled green/brown cape.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 22):

Right. And social structure?

It's tribal.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 24):

Right. So which tribe took a girl then?

An excellent question ... who do you ask it of?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 26):

Any locals, likely the Squire.

Kenyan says simply, "I wish I knew. There's been growing friction for a while but for no reason that's come to my attention. The kidnapping is the latest and most signficant thing. Hopefully that's where you experts will be able to assist."

The squires Steward asks So are you going to try and get a meeting?

"Exactly so," Kenyan nods. "Good man! So, please would you inform our guests as to the best way we've found to do that."

Jeeves replies Quite So, sir (as in msg 13)

"So, as the good Steward says, we have a place where wehere our people go and wait. The wildings would join after a day or so." Kenyan answers somewhat obviously. "If you're both ready, we shall send out word and shall leave shortly for the place."

Sounds reasonable, perhaps a smoky fire will also draw some attention. We are taking a good sized guard with us?

"Unless you require otherwise, I wasn't projecting anything other than normal," answers Kenyan. "There's little point in being the cause of escalation."

My concern was if the attackers were to  attack our party when it attempts to parly

"The wildings haven't killed anyone as yet," replies Kenyan. "Why shoud they now? But if, as represntatives of the Duke, a 'good-sized gaurd' is what you stipulate then so shall it be." He looks at Mustafa, the holder of the Duke's Seal, then adding, "But going with more militia may make it more difficult to acertain what is beneath the unrest. What is your call on this, Sir Mustafa?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 36):

"I would prefer a smaller gaurd as well, but my wife is right in that this does increase the risk. Can we have 2 forces, with a backup cavalry force say a mile away, and we take a signal horn?"

"Then so shall it be," answers Kenyan who then excuses himself to put matters into motion. A short while later he returns and asks, "Things are in hand. We may depart when you're ready."

I will assume a 6 hour or so ride to the location (about 10 leagues or so).

Even as you set up, your guards report men departing, one waved his arms at them before moving out.
It's a touchy night as several arrows come in from the SW, although those leaving headed more North to NW.
No one is hurt fortunately, but everyone is on edge.

It is Midday the following day before a Few Men show themselves at a distance and wave a white flag; you see aa coupe of arrows shot their way as well and quite a few sent back  in retrun. Your camp takes several more too, and one horse is slightly injured but all of them are close to stampede. fortunately they are well secured to the lead lines. Your foreters point outthat the archers can' see up onto te meeting location which is on a low hill with a flat top.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 39):

At the first arrows, mounted men will be sent to deal with the culprits.

"It would seem that they are divided. We need to support those who are peaceful, and strong with those who are not."

This will be how the meeting is run. Mounted patrols with be moving around the meeting point, taking bows from any who attack them by whatever means necessary.

How many mounted targets do you dispatch after these archers in the woods?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 41):

How thick are the woods?

It varies, the immediate area around the hill top has been mostly cleared, but the surrounding woods have big (a foot thick) trees about every ten or twelve feet and with low hanging branches in places. The Archers pick their firing positions carefully and can disappear into the woods... cavalry is badly handicapped in such a woods. The archers can play hide and shoot all day long.

Kenyan suhggests, "Perhaps we should just talk to them? I'm content to go myself. If I'm killed, cremation is good. And then you could arrange take the heads of every one of them."

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OOC: sounded like a clue.

The wildings to the North are still moving in and out waving their small white flag, despite the desultory arrow fire.

Should we wave 'em in Squire?

"Yes, that would be good," says Kenyan and gets out a folded white handkerchief and shakes it into a semblence of a white flag.. "Do you wish to wait here, Sir Mutafa? Lady Lileth?"

Yes, Of course, and while I am a Lady I am not a "LADY" as in nobility... I am indeed a commoner. I am from another group of what you would call wildings down in Zenther.

Kenyan delivers a ploite bow to Lileth bat says nothing, then looking to Mustafa for his intent.

As you talk, the wildings with the white flag run from tree to tree and hurry up onto the safety of the Hilll (Mesa).

Kenyan plans to follow similarly..

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 50):

You are already there and they are trying to get there safely. Your archers have paid attention and are engaging in Counter archery... shooting at the archers shooting at you before they can get a shot off.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 51):

In that case we will send groups of skirmishers with shields to engage them, while we go up to the Mesa. Also have some similarly equipped engage them from the mesa rim.

While Kenyan is keen for injuries to be kept to a minimum, his priority is to get to the bottom of the unreast.

If there's someone appropriate to talk to, he will engage. Otherwise he waits.

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 52):

You are already on the mesa/hill. The Archers are supressing  the "bad Guys".
Squire Worley is the commander of troops.


The three wilding men make it to the hill unscathed. Kenyon recognizes two of them from past meetings.
The are cursing the New Trash.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 54):

If Kenyon knows them, Mustafa will let him take the lead...

Kenyan advances, white 'flag' tucked under a loop of his leathers, "Greetings, you two know me but for you, sir, I am Kenyan Worley. This is Mustafa Zephyr, the Duke's man, so a representative of my Liege. I would like to be able to understand what is the cause of the restlessness and growing friction. Please, if you would introduce yourselves.." He indicates the three and gestures towards Mustafa.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 56):

"Mustafa and Lilith Zephyr, river trader and willing from the south, representing the Duke." he says simply.

I am the Local Chief, Yura Gigrones; this is my right Hand Listly Throd and our new healer is Nupuct Filathers.
There is no friction between us, it is between us both and the escapees fom the Southern Armies, they claim to be wildings, but do not obey our law, do not honor our leaders and attack our villages and yours as well I assume. Recently they stole two young women about to come of age. We would like to work to bring the women back and teach these clods some respect.

Kenyan bows to the chief, "My thanks, Chief, that gladdens my heart. Let us work together in this. Young women from my communities have been taken. Are these he ones to which you refer? Or are the pair you mentioned from your own villages?"

They were young wilding women, so you too have had women taken. These animals must be dealt with.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 60):

"We agree. We would bring in an army, but I doubt it would be useful. How can we best work together to deal with them?"

Our count shows 331 one of them in a small group of three villages closely linked together.
Most assuredly the women have been taken ther and and we fear for what has already happened to them.
A few, very few might be acceptable in ourvillages, but most need to be chased off or killed.
They are only bad news and show little inclination to work with others as we do.
They currently travel in groups of twenty or so to prevent our raiding them, which we have done in the past.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 62):

"Right. Tell me about their villages, and the surrounding terrain. Do they have farms? Are the forests susceptible to fire? What do they eat? Where do they get their water? What armour do they wear?"

They are circular and arranged in a rough triaangle... mud circles with straw roofs. They have out posts on the surrounding three hills and the villages are in the hollow created by those hills.
They have a few farms, poorly thought out and operated.
Fire is a terrible plan, as the elves and others would immediately attack.

Their diet is mostly the animals they hunt and what they can gather. They obviously never had much freedom to hink, so now when the mus, they struggle... but they are free and unwilling to have anyone tell them what to do, hus their leader are the biggest and toughest, although certainly not the smartest or wisest.
Their village site was chosn for a spring that feeds a creek and it provides water for all of them. It once was a site we used for hunting and migrations.
Armor... they have some, as they were soldiers, at least those who did not throw their armor away have some. Weapons are spears and swords, lots of shields.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 64):

"So they are all fed from one spring... poisoning the spring has some merit. If the leader is the toughest knuckle head, could they be taken over by defeating the leader in single combat? Also, how thick is the forest around them? If they are clearing farms, what do the elves have to say about that?"

Kenyan listens to Mustafa tyrying to construct a plan but shakes his head as mention of either party poisoning a spring and at the thought of mass forest clearance. Out of obligation to the Duke he holds his silence for the moment.

I would doubt the Elves are happy, but at least they grow things, so it's not like poisoning a water supply which will never do! I won't stand for it and I doubt the good squire would either. I am sure the Duke would be Livid at such a thing. What were you thinking?

In reply to Lileth (msg # 67):

"I am throwing out ideas, which is more than anyone else is doing. Perhaps you like getting shot up with arrows. Not all poisons have to kill humans, you know. We just need to render it unfit for human consumption."

Kenyan says, "Yes, Mustava, of course. And very interesting ideas, I'm sure." He glances at Lileth and then turns to the three Wildings, addressing the Elder, "What is the succession of leadership for these troublesome people? Would one of us be able to challenge their leader for leadership of their tribe? othererwise, is there some other plan that you are harbouring?"

They are not Wildings... they do not agree with any of our beliefs and laws, so they must go somewhere else. We have heard your Duke has taken down the King ofZenther and removed some Nobles, could they return there?

Kenyan rubs his beard thoughtfully, "Interesting idea. Mutafa?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 71):

"They could, but if they are trying to escape the Duke here, they will not likely be better there. Something we need to evaluate."

Kenyan looks arounfd the five others gathered with him, asking, "So, we're getting close to going round in circles. Does anyone have anything else to contribute?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 73):

"Perhaps if you can come up with something constructive rather than discounting every idea you hear we might make some progress." Mustafa responds dryly.

Lighten up Mustafa, You have not offered any reasonable suggestions yourself, The squire is discounting plans that won't work or seem unlikely, which does seriously reduce the options.  I think we need to chat with these jerks; perhaps they would like to return home, as they are struggling here.

"That's where  iwas headed. And was going to lead in with how best to achieve that," confirms Kenya with a politely grateful smile to Lileth that fades into blandly polite neutrality for Mutafa.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 76):

"Happy to try talking to them, but if they want to do things the hard way, as those from the south seem to like to do, what is the backup plan?"

The Duke did say he could provide troops if needed.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 78):

"Yes, but as you know well, troops in a thick forest are very vulnerable unless they have the proper training."

"Are there many available with forest training?" asks Kenyan.

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OOC: Does Kenyan have many armed folks with forest training?

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 80):

"I am not aware of many."

GM, please correct me if I do know af a lot.

"Chief, if necessary, would your folks be able to contribute many with both martial ability and forest craft?" asks Kenyan who's trying to feel out their combined resources.

I can provide about 50 men with bows. I am hesitant to have them close with the ex-soldiers.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 83):

"How many of them are there?"

"I understand, cheif. Well, I can muster several hundred, trained and forest-savy, over a week, and perhaps just doing that will send a message. Or it may enflame. But we're not going to do nothing," Kenyan puts forward. "Lileth, what's your reading of this?"

Well, I am a wilding myself... I hear what the chief says and I see these new army deserters as a problem, I think they will be less trouble and also happier in what was Zenther.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 86):

"Happy to transport them, but not if we are only moving the problem elsewhere."

It's a risk, but likely a much reduced risk and the local powers that be can handle this better as well, lastly I expect that they will split up and go to the areas they lived in.

"That sounds a much better option than mass.. suppression. Thank you, Lileth," smiles Kneyan, encouraginly but careful not to give any impression of intent to breach etiquette. "So, Lileth, in your opinion, how might that best be carried out? The initial communication? Walk in with a flag? Gift of food? Or hard line military?" he glances at Mustafa for reaction.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 89):

"They certainly don't seem terribly open to communication, I must say."

"Maybe they feel they haven't had the opportunity? Perhaps that in itself, having that opportunity, may be the breakthrough we're seeking?" kenyan speculates, looking round the gathered faces for some sign of resonance.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 91):

"We are here, at the place negotiations take place, waving a white flag of truce, and they were shooting at us. How have they lacked opportunity?"

"I hear your words, Mustava, and the steel beneath them," Kenyan acknowledges. "What is your view, Chief? And that of each of your advisers?"

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When their responses are ended he adds, "And may we have your view also, please, Lileth?"
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They used to talk more feely, then slowly as these bullies took ovr, hey became harder to talk with. They made demands and expected us to accede to them, we didn't and so we have a very distant and dificult relationship with them, but I think they might still parley.

She shrugs, I think the chief offers the best chance to talk. and short of exercising th use of military arms, the quickest and easist way to open a discussion. Somehow I suspect few of them can read or write. They were raised and led by brute forc, so it's all they understand. It will be hard to persuade them to take a softer appraoch, especially if Mustafa keeps playing the Hard Guy.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 95):

"From what I have seen, the softer approach will only be possible if they understand force will not get them what they want. If the chief can talk. with them, happy days. But I want a viable plan B to Bak him up before I send him, and sending untrained men into a thick forest is not a viable plan."

If I go talk, You come with the squire ... I can say you are the muscle if they do not like reason.

"Fine," slips out from Kenyan.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 97):

"But if they call our bluff and want to fight, it will be harder on you. We will need to call our men in to assist defending your villages."

"Frankly if they kill us then I think the Duke may not rest until they've been eradicated," answers Kenyan. "If someone brought an army with them and asked me to agree to something then I might be less likely to mean anything I agreed to. How about I wrtite a not, in duplicate, one to stay here and one to go with us, stating that if we don't return, my last and possibly dying wish is for martial forces to be raised, trained and forest-savy, either local, or inclusive the duke's, with view to eradication of those we go to see? If we're not back within a reasonable time, it can be set in motion. Would that satisfy you, Mustafa?"

After listening to the dukesman's reply he turns to the chief, "In your view, what is likely to be a 'reasonable time for our return' for this?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 100):

"It would be foolish not to start raising such an army regardless."

I do not think they would see any gain in killing us... holding us for ransom perhaps, but I intend to have a goodly force of bowmen behind me but in sight, I commend that idea to you as well.  Between us we easily have a hundred men, I think they will be cautious, especially as all are trained woodsmen and they know it.

"FIne, let's organise this then and get on with it."

Very good the Chief says ... get your men ready and I'll get mine, we should move soon, it's about an hours walk.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 104):

How many men can Mustafa muster, and how long would it take to get at least 500 here?

"A week or more, perhaps," suggests Kenyan.
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Kenyon's answer does little to resolve Mustafa's desire for instant action, but Lileth calms him a little.
With the Squires 20 odd foresters and the Wildings almost 60, there is enough force to get the wanna be wildings attention.
Lileth notes that many of the wildingsand firesters exchange nods and smiles, obviously on much better terms than their leaders.

The wildings bring you to a hill overlooking the Wanna-be wildings village, and as you move into he thinning trees t the top, you can see vast turmoil below as they try to prepare a defense.  The Squire provides a white Flag which is waved, it takes a moment to be noticed, but then the leaders coalese and a few minutes later they produc a dingy gray flag and a small group exit the village, both th Chief and the Squires have their men pull back a little so no one is threatened.

Th Chief nods at Lileth You come forward too, so there are four vs four.

Kenyan nods, thinking that to be both sensible and wise.

The four Men from the Village walk up to where you are stopping about 10 paces away.
What Now?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 109):

"It would appear that you are far from home. The nobles that send you here have been removed, and Duke Malcolm now rules. Are you interested in returning home?"

Home? You mean back to some Nobles lands in Zenther? Hell No!

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 111):

"As we said, the nobles are no longer there. But if you do not want to return, that is fine.

However, if you want to stay here, you must abide by certain laws. Robbing folk and kidnapped women is not acceptable. Either swear that you will respect the law, or we will be forced to raise an army to deal with you. If you force us to do that, you should not expect mercy."

"If you should choose to return home in Zenther then there would be more leeway for you to choose your own destiny."

What Leeway? And there are No Nobles anymore?

No, there are nobles left, all those who hurt their people are dead, in a dungeon or running for their life. Those that remain have had to pledge their peoples welfare to the Duke. There are no serfs anymore, everyone is a freeman and if a noble wants to hire him to work for him, he must pay fairly. The Duke checks, My husband and I are some of those who have been checking. No Noble can kill or injure a freemen without expecting the Duke's Justice. God Help the Noble who abuses a woman ... and justice is swift, often happening within the week. Zenter does not exist, it is now Catheran South.
If you stay here, we havethe Duke's authorization to call as many as 10,000 men to settle this and bring all the women you have stolen back.  Even now over 500 have been called up at the Squires  lands. We wildings do not offer you protection, since you violated our laws and took our girls against their will. We want them back, now! and any man who raped them or did them harm will be expected to pay the Duke's Justice for such actions. You see, we wildings have made some agreements with the Duke as well.  So what say you? Back toyour old environs with the Due's protection to get there, or shall we have a battle you will lose?


Lileth is obviously getting angry and her control is slipping.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 115):

Mustafa is sharing her frustration, and awaits their response.

Kenyan nods at appropriate times.

The Leader of the Wanna-Be's turns I told you grabbing women would be a big problem... have all three brought up here now with their things, and Gently too! 

We gona let them push us aroun' ?  I'll be chief by sunset!

Of course you will, until I explain they will have to fight to the death against a couple thousnd men ... we saw how the Duke's Army fought in the war. Don't think many want to repeat that mistake. NOW, bring the ladies up here.

Another of the men holds his hands up and urns to walk back down the hill, The Second guy starts to yell at him You best not you gutless slave.

Kenyan looks squarely at the Leader of the Wanna-Be's, "You will have your own lands, and governance as described. If you need aid,.." his eyes flick towards second in command, "then you merely have to ask. Some duties are satisfying." Kenyan's hand has moved slowly and obviously to his sword hilt. He catches the Leader's eyes and smiles grimly with the slightest of shrugs to show he speaks plainly, honestly and is not threatening the Leader.

Lands here or lands there?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 120):

"Getting land depends on how you act, but the lands we offer are here. Back in what was once Zenther, we would have to see, because I will not displace law abiding citizens. But still, if there are lands nearer home available, you could be given lands there. But the good Swire can only speak of offering his own lands."

Kenyan shoots Mustafa a look that says*, 'Didn't you offer a resettlment back where that came from?'

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OOC: *re msg #110
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Kenyan says, "Between us, we will work to arrange something equitable, won't we, Sir Mustafa?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 123):

"That depends on whether it would be appreciated, or abused."

Kenyan shelters behind his neutrally polite, political smile and bows slightly, before turning to Lilith. "And does My Lady have sage words of balance that might assist us in proceeding?" His eyes flick across towards Mutafa as he says the word balance before he dips into a deeper bow.

She Nods, I am sure many will be happier in the new lands that were once Zenther. But there may be a few who will be happeir here with the Wildings, following their laws or perhaps in your lands following your rules and the laws of Catheran. I know of no place where there are no laws or rules enforced, even in wildest Nature, her rules are enforced, grimly sometimes.

The Squire looks at the Leader and says, "There we have it. What will it be?"

He doesn't articulate that it's either settlement with some level of agreed integration or else bloodshed until none are left.

Well likely a few questions ... this new land that was Zenther; so if we retun to our old holdings we are not to be scouraged for deserting? and we will get a bit of land? enough to live off of with some extra to sell?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 128):

"The army you deserted has been replaced by the army that convinced you to desert, so why would we punish you for that choice? If you will be happy to work the land and abide by the same laws that protect you, you will be given lands to work and allowed to do so. I can give you my word on that."

Kenyan waits.

Although promising that those lands will be a part of the old holding is more than we can guarantee. But they should be closee and should be decent farmland.  The new lords make nothing if their farmers suffer, except maybe trouble for themselves with the Duke. If everyone is having trouble, he understands, but if it's just one holding, he will want answers. I have seen the Duke take grain from a noble's cellers and give it to the people working the lands, as he felt the noble was at fault.

You make it sound better, although all of us have been abused and trust nobles like poisonous spiders.

Kenyan responds to that, "You have had no abuse from me in the time you have been on my lands. Rather some of your people have been the abusers. Now, it's not easy, learning to trust. The alternative though is harsher. I've not come here with honeyed words to decieve. I've come here to resolve troubles on my land. We all know exactly of which I speak and the stolen womenfolk. So, which way will you lead your people?"

Truly, I do hear you clearly, but persuading those who think they can force their way will be hard. They have always lived on one end of it and now wish to live on the other.  But I think many will be willing to go back, My self, I'd like to see whatwee could work out form e to move onto your lands, Squire. You have a fine reputation among your people.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 134):

"Then perhaps you only need to separate yourself from those who would cause trouble. There is a shortage of honest folk who want to live peacefully, primarily due to the folk who want to abuse and lord it over others. As stated, we are happy to accommodate those willing to law abiding citizens."

I will ask, I expect a lot of push back and threats from those few who will lose everything if most leave ...

He points ... even now, just bringing the women back up here is causing a lot of discord.

You can see men arguing, shaking fists and blocking the way out...

The Chief Yells Loudly LET THEM LEAVE OR PAY THE PRICE.   The Big one up front is a ring leader, would that you could take him out.

You want him dead or just wounded?

"Dead men harbour no vendettas. We give him the choice to surrender of forfeit his life," says Kenyan. "Do you wish to do this, Mustafa? Or would you prefer that I do it?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 138):

Mustafa smiled.

"Would he accept a challenge to single combat, the old way?"

He takes out his sling and loads it, then readying his shield.
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Dead will create a lot of resentment and likely stop any further talks, just a bad political decision. ...  maybe a show of force?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 140):

"Individually, of mustering an army? He is not willing to put his money where his mouth is?"

As the Duke's man seems to have the bit between his teeth, Kenyan watches, letting it play out. He thinks, "We're approaching the critical moment."

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 141):

Of coarse not, but he is willing to put his followers where his mouth is... and he has quite a few.

BRING THE WOMEN UP HERE NOW OR PAY THE PRICE IN ARROWS.


You might have a few men show fire arrows with a torch near by to light them.

I will go pass that plan along to the men.

Kenyan nods.

The Man he is referring to turns and raises his fist, yelling something, the man the leader sent down gives the ladies a push while he is distracted and heads them up the hill. The Ladies do their best to run and the man holds back the trouble maker as best he can. It's only a matter of moments before the trouble maker knocks him aside and runs after the three women, as he comes up on a small tree, an arrow strikes it and leaves the feathers vibrating about 6 inches in front of his eyes, causing him to lean back and lose his balance, grabbing the tree to keep from falling ... he looks about to find Lileth with her bow drawn and aimed at him.

Ya may want to contol yurself Dirgon, if she can hit that tree without aiming, she can pick which eye she wants the arrow in.

Dirgon is fuming as he snaps off the arrow, but he walks up to the Chief I do nay agree ta this being forced on us.

Mayhap you should hear their offer afore ye make such a call; I told ya stealing women would only bring trouble and here it is... They came to talk first, before the thousand armed men fell upon us.

They ain't got no thousand men

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 146):

"I commanded more than 10,000 in Zether when we captured your so-called king and his nobles. One thousand if a lot fewer than we will bring if we have to. If you want to fight, fight a man, not little girls.

Our offer is for you to live peacefully withing the law, farming land we can give you. Alternatively, you can fight and be killed here. This is a choice you should all make individually. Any man who want to live in peace can. The rest, gather your weapons and lets see if you can do better than the half-assed king of Zether."

The Squire looks on impassively but impressed at the steel of the duke's man. 10000 was a lot to command.

Dirgon looks a bit less sure of himself. Farmland ? under some Noble who will rob us blind again? Not happening.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 149):

"Thank you for telling me what sort of Noble you would be, if you ever got the chance. But you will not, because the Duke would deal very harshly with such 'nobles', as he did with the last ones.

But if living peacefully is not happening for you, we will calculate how many men we need to eradicate the troublemakers such as yourself and gather them, allowing those who seek peaceful lives their wish. Personally, I would be happy to end such troublemakers as yourself here and now, but I have been advises it is not how diplomats work. Course, being a river trader, I know little of those matters, so I have to take their word for it, but I suggest you do not push to create too much trouble."

I ain' no F*****g Noble, I gots standards. But i ain' leadin' my friends into no set up like wuz in Zenther.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 151):

"You were sounding like a noble, expecting to tell others what to to, stealing women without respect for their wishes and trying to use force to get whatever you want.

Understand you don't want to lead 'your' people into a trap, but even by claiming them as 'yours' when each person belongs to themselves is sounding very much like a noble.

But if you are concerned, allow those who wish to give the Duke a chance to do so, and whatcha what happens to them. But act like a noble and rob either goods or people from those under the protection of the Duke and you will not get another warning."

Kenyan steps forward to stand beside Mustafa. "In this, we are in complete agreement."
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I ain' no noble and I ain' actin' like 'un ... I is trying ta lead  'em ta aa safe and good way ta live our lives. Jus' like Norg 'ere (points thumb at the chief) but he's a weak leader.

"I'd say ChHief Norg is a wise leader," suggests Kenyan. "A very wise one indeed. Why don't you work with him and be his strength; following his directives? Then he in thurn can be your wisdom."
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You sayin' I ain' smart?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 156):

"If you do not realize how much like a noble you are acting, then your actions speak for themselves. Your actions this far have not been wise, and if you continue with them the repercussions will prove the lack of wisdom. Wisdom and intellect are not the same thing."

He looks a bit confused  Whuts Intalect if'n it ain' smarts?

The Chief is controlling his desire to smile.

The Three woman are a safe distance away and Lileth is speaking with them.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 158):

"If you do not know the difference between wisdom and intellect, you definitely are not fit to rule. It is more than I can teach you in a short discussion."

That Ain' yer choice mister smart ass.

The Chief steps up  We choose our leaders, you do not. Let's not fight over it.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 160):

"Perhaps, but if your actions continue to violate the rights of your neighbours,. you won't have anyone left to lead, so be careful who you insult."

Kenyan waits, studying the thick loudmouth.

Dirgon, These folks came peacably, despite your ill advised sniping at them. I suggest we go down and explain the options. Then themen can make their choices.
he turns
I expect they will want some sort of guarantee that it's not back to being a serf.

" Guarantee? We're talking, aren't we; people arn't dying. The choices remain the same. If these events had occurred elsewhere than my lands, it might be that there would have been no choices," responds Kenyan. "So, it depends on trust. Your folk trusting you and you trusting me. You know me, Chief, and I have given you my word for these lands. Your folk can either accept that or not.""

Indeed so, but I mostly speak of those lands in the south where we once lived in slavery.

"The Duke, to whom I answer, has send this good man to speak for him," answers the Squire, indicating Mustafa, as he takes half a pace backwards.
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So I understood, but try to imagine how those men feel, thy have been given all sorts of promises, few if any ever were worth the time it took to speak them. You and the Duke have a long term relationship of trust it seems, those men have a long memory of being lied to and abused by Lords and Ladies.

"Your role is to inspire and lead your people, chief," answers Kenyan. "So, will you lead them to work the land? Or to lay under it."

That's Harsh, You already know my desire for them, but I can only inform and suggest, no one can force anyone. And you wave off the issues I present as if they are of consequence, do not fool yourself, down there, that concern is paramount. Now if you will excuse me, I wish to deny Dirgon time to mis-present what was said.

Lileth had come back to your group in time to hear the Chiefs words.

He speaks true and from the heart, I was there and I know how concerned my people were at the Duke's promises. As to the Girls, none were quite yet women, but all were forced to breed with several men. They are terrified to go home, lest they be seen as whores or used women.

"If you request help with Dirgon, it shall be given," adds Kenyan. It wasn't the Squire's job to be liked.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 171):

"What sort of guarantee do you seek? I can guarantee to bring an army next time, and I can give you my word that the nobles who treat their people harshly are removed, but if you want evidence, come and see for yourself. What other guarantee would suffice?"

Perhaps that we will see them safely there and that they may speak freely with those there? And leave again if we have not spoken the truth?

Kenyan nods and waits.

A serious debate rages below, sometimes quite loud as well ... Eventually there seems to be some obvious groups forming.

Lileth watches, and then decides she will go down there as a Wilding ... she walks down.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 175):

Mustafa asks if he should go with her...he is worried about her safety.

Kenyan steps back to let the married pair talk privately.

No, Best you stay here Mustfa, I'll be fine ... or a bunch of them won't be.  She wavs at the other bowmen who are all standing with arrows knocked.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 178):

"I worry about you, dear, but I trust your judgement. I hope I do not live to regret it."

Lileth walks in and shortly says somethi, this stats a loud arguement with some pointing to you on the hill, but the chief and a few others prevent any physical contact. shortly there after she pulls up a pendant [which Mustafa shoukd know is her insignia of a "free person".
The duscussion seems to quiet some  and becomes a more disciplined discussion. It last s a while and a few get angry again, you can recognize Dirgon and about three others who separate from the discussion and walk off.  A small group fors with the chiefwhile a large group , likely most all the men here slid over with one of the chief's supporters.  A few minutes later Lileth, the Chief and one other man from the big group come back up to your location.

Seems we have an agreement.  the big group goes back to Catheran South with Mustaafa and i, the small group [8 men] with the chief ask to remain on your lands, Squire Worley.  Dirgon and thre others refuse to have anything to do with either solution, but have agreed to leave and find some place else to live.


If that is agreeable all around.

Kenyan presents a formal bow to the chief, then echoed to Lileth. "That is agreeable to me. Thank you, Chief." With his eyes and a nodding of his head the Squire tries to let Lileth know that he includes her in the thanking. "I would happily provide an escort to Dirgon and those that choose to forever leave with him. What say you, Mustava? Is this agreeable also for you?"

We may well need you and some of your men to act as protectors as wee march some 200 men back south. I am sure the Duke will recompense you.

"Please, refresh me, how far are we talking? how many men were you envisaging?" enquires the squire. "Perhaps I should come also. My steward is capable of handling things in my absense."

Yes, You should come with perhaps 20 men to prevent any issues with the locals. I think once we get them to southern Catheran, the possibility of troubles will be much less. Then it is just finding their old homes and relitives if we can.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 184):

"That is agreeable to me. I will arrange some vessels to transport them back across the sea, but to give the legal cover, perhaps we should travel with them. Chief, when will your people be willing to depart?"

I think by tomorrow, as we have only limited things, the few heavy items will be brought to our new homes when assigned.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 186):

"Happy to give you a little longer to take everything. I cannot guarantee that some of your compatriots will not repurpose anything left behind."

"Let us add another day* and I will provide a pair of wagons and some supplies. They can transport the supplies, and young children or expectant mothers, perhaps a few heavy possessions," Kenyan proposes.

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OOC: *Or whatever appropriate time period.

Would that we had mothers or children... the reason they resorted to stealing your women.  And the Anvil is better bought new in Zenther than carried there and fought over. Tomorrow moring means they must hurry and have no time to argue.  How will you march them south?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 189):

"Take them by shortest route to a major port and then south by ship."

"Agreed then," nods Kenyan who then starts to make arrangements with his men, writes instructions for the steward and then locates a very loyal and capable sergeant.

Drawing the fellow to one side he explains about the four trouble makers. "They are to be escorted, with four men of the your choice, to just beyond our borders and the four being escorted carrying their own things with 3 days rations and 3 silver pieces each. They carry their armour. Heavy weapons to be bound. Take a spade. If they give any trouble whatsoever you are to defend yourselves enthusiastically and bury the four bodies out of the way. By my word, report events only to the steward. You understand, sergeant?"
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In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 191):

Was that said within earshot of Mustafa?

The agreement, yes. The subsequent instructions to the chosen sergeant, no.
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The sergeant nods, By your leave, I'd like a few more men to shadow us openly, so these men know it's more than just us.

"Granted, sergeant," agrees Kenyan with approval in his eyes.

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OOC: I'm thinking of Duke Leto

Thank You Squire, we will see them gone or fertilizer, as they choose.

Kenyan nods and turns to sorting out his escort, those returning to their usual duties on his lands, and an additoonal conversation with the Chief, "Do you require some of my men to stay on with you for a while? Or do you require anything otherwsie to assist you in settling on these lands?"
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Just to tell us where to settle, hopefully reasonably close to each other for mutual aid.

After consulting a couple of his senior staffers Kenyan confirms an area close enough for mutual aid.

He looks for Mutafa and Lileth, then says quietly, "Ready to depart on the morrow. Is there anything else we need to discuss here?"

Lileth shakes her head no.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 200):

"I don't think so. I will have to arrange ships, for which I will need numbers though."

"Twenty one here," answers Kenyan. "Exact numbers, Chief?"

222 total, 9 stay with me and four go with Dirgon, so 209 go south. Change is potentially there until we leave.

Kenyan looks at Mustafa, "You need anything more than that?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 204):

"Are you and your men planning on crossing the sea with us?"

"If they will be needed. At that point the ship and lands beyond are your domain. What need do you foresee?"

You might like to see the South, it has a lot of potential now that the problem has been removed.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 207):

"We do not need you or your men there, but you might be interested to have a look."

"If I may take that as an invitation, then I accept. Would you advise that I should bring men?"
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Certainly, they too will learn something which may help in the future dealins with such men.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 210):

Once numbers are complete, Mustafa will send messages to the Duke and the port to inform of the travel plans and to ensure ship availability.

Worley takes ten men and sends ten back to update the steward and to deliver a few further generalised instructions.
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You spend a night in the woods, you have had better ones... and come morning the 'almost wildings' are in relative disarray.

Your Sergeant gets three of the difficult ones separated and moving which seems to help.

The column of 210 men winds out and follows your mens lead. Many carry [not worn] armor and weapons from their prior service and the weight makes them slower; they are no inclined to part with thiose things though.

The Chief and eight men go with your ten men heading back.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 213):

Mustafa will lead those willing to the port. He does not anticipate a quick journey, which will facilitate the sending of messengers and their replies, and response.

Indeed true, you barely mak it to the edge of the Squires lands before having to camp, the good thing is that you should rech a road tomorrow and that will speed things up a bit. It will aso acilitate finding you for the messengers.

As they leave his lands Kenyan maintains his awareness of events but is content to let Mustafa lead.

There is no trouble so far, but one of the four trouble makers did choose to go with you at the last moment.
Your men are succesful at hunting and bring in two deer to use, along with potatoes,  turnips, parsnips and a variety of green vegetables.
Dinner isn't ready until after dark, but it is a good, filling and tasty stew.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 217):

Mustafa will remain cautious but give the impression of being relaxed.  He will keep a close eye on those around him.

Kenyan takes the stew with appropriate grace and later queries with Mustafa and Lileth, "So the lands were we're headed, are they similar to this terrain?"

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 219):

"Similar, but a bit warmer. There are numerous forests,  a few swamps  lots of rolling grasslands and farms and two mountain ranges."

GM, feel free to add in what has been seen but not described in detail.
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"Just as well I have my cloak then," comments Kenyan, reassured at the mention of forests.

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OOC: Will Kenyan need acquire a Cultural Familiarity for the new lands?

Of course, jusrt as Mustafa and Lileth should acquire some knowledge of the North.

Wether you get full familiarity is dependant on how long you stay and how much you travel of course, but you can help getting something, even if only a quirk.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 222):

Mustafa was born in the north, albeit in the desert lands...he should acquire cultural familiarity with the south too. Especially since Lilith is the other way around.

No Argument for Mustafa in the south (Zenther)  ... although this is not even close to where he grew up on the river.
Lileth is not as familiar with the North yet...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 224):

Yeah, it would seem to me there are more than one culture in the north, and possibly in the south as well. Where do we draw the line?

It's sort of why the question got asked..
I guess if Mustafa didn't get reaction penalties when on Kenyan's land then he doesn't need cultural understanding, and by extension neither would Kenyan going to Mustafa s land..

Yes and no... lots of things impinge. You both speak the same language with minor differences. Mustafa knows rather little about forests and woods, although he is learning becaue of Lileth.  The Squire has a fair bit of land under cultivation and some meadows, so he isn't lost, but he will be surprised as he comes upon places where it is almost all fields and meadows with few trees. The Bigger thing for the Squire will be the peoples thinking, based on decades of abuse by Nobles.  Lileth and Mustafa hve already seen it AND they may be the Duke's people, but the are NOT nobles.

And then there is the Game ... how much does Mustafas lack of knowledge about the northrn forests affect his performance? A fair bit wen he wants to chae archrs through the wood with Cavalry, but other were there to prevent that. Over all, the othrs around him mitigated the problems, so why add the complexity of it to the game.

As you move out into the Farmlands of Catheran, you sense some resistance and hostility based more about having 200 guys wandering by their fields and domestic animals more than who they are, whichis mostly unknown. But finding places to camp is now a serious planning issue.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 227):

As is having the ships ready when they get there. This is why Mustafa is sending messengers ahead to prepare. Wee also will use scouts to look for camping sites in 2 teams of at least 2, alternating on different days going ahead to find and wait in suitable sites they have prepared (with the locals) in advance.

Kenyan waits to see what happens, helping where he may.

Speed does pick up some and you manage about 5 leagues the next day and the two following days as well, when a Messenger arrives from the Duke.

   You are cleared to march to Spirue, I will have transport ships awaiting and have sent two peletons of Lancers to assist you in your march. Their Capatain will know of supply points being set up to facilitate your march. We are pleased that Squire Worley and you have been able to defuse this problem. Word is being sent south to ensure you have as few issues as we can from here as well.

Malcolm Urqhart

Kenyan waits to hear what news the messenger brings.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 231):

Mustafa relays the contents of the message to both the squire and to those he is escorting, as evidence that the Duke is keeping his part of the deal.

There is a murmer among the many men and two of the leaders ask to see the message. The one seems to be able to read and nods, He is indeed giving us pass and a way back to our familes. They thank you and go back to the men and confirm the words. There seems to be a small but noticabl change and they are much easier to work with and to get to do things.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 233):

We continue, awaiting the escorts.

They show up the next day and the mounts are exhausted. The location with horse feed and food for your entourage is beside a small river and the Captain asks for a day to rest his mounts before continuing on.  You have been marching for five days now and you can see the benefit of a day of rest as well.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 235):

Of course. Allow the two groups to meet and get to know each other. Allow those being escorted to see the type of soldier supporting the Duke...

Kenyan spends time throughout the journey talking with folks from the 'new region' trying to understand something of how attitudes and values vary according to differences in terrain and history.

The rest is beneficial as is the chatter among the soldiers, once enemies. The "Once wildings" are really intrigued with how things are done here, and that they will be done that way in what was once Zenther. The potential for growth, and profit is a major plus.

On the third day you move out for the next rest stop, which is a bit over 6 leagues away... a long walk at a forced pace. The Captain explains that this area was badlly ravaged during the recent invasion and the locals will not be friendly at all if they figure out who these men are.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 238):

Mustafa will support the Captain and try to encourage the men to keep moving.

It was a real struggle and they drug themselves into the new camp area well after sunset.
Come morning they were dragging still and many had cramps.
The days start was slow, but it had been planned wll and the days march was short.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 240):

Mustafa will check with the captain to see what the next days March plans are, looking to give the men a break.

Kenyan continues talking with the migrants and new escort & trying to tease out the cultural differences.

The day afternthe short march, it is back to 4-5 league days, you are getting close to the port, perhaps two or three days match is your best guess, The Capatin is not sure how long these "once Wildings" can keep up this rate of march.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 243):

Neither is. Mustafa, and he does not want to push them.. He requests the captain to investigate another days rest.

The Captain nods, I'll send a messenger, but it takes a day or two to get a response ... of course we can just do it because it needed to be done.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 245):

"I will ask them if they think they need it."

He will head to the leader of those moving and ask if they need a days break.

He looks back over the men, We can make it without, but I think it would help to rest a day, i have not marched like this since the Nobles pressed on for the great victory.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 247):

"Probably helps explain their defeat...ok. I will ask the captain."

Relay the request to the captain.

The Captains response is OK, sounds like command decision time. we will spend a Day of rest at tonights stop.

Kenyan, no longer burdened with the running of things, continues to explore cultural diversity.

You set up that evenings camp.
The squire basically ascertains that with some minor differences, they are little different from his own people.
Kicals start showing up to sell things  that evening despite the soldiers trying to keep them away, which they mostly do.

Come morning however the locals show up in much larger numbers and not to trade anything but blows, judgng by the weapons, armor and shields. The capatin warns them that they violate the Duke's protection at their own risk, but the crowd does not diminish and a few Locals start to work around the edges. The wanna be wildings start to put on armor and get out packed away weapons as well.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 251):

Is there any local leader to talk to?

There seem to be some leaders fomenting the crowds, but you see no others at the moement, do you go looking?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 253):

I think so. Carefully, with the Dukes seal clearly visible but held firmly.

Kenyan turns out as well.

You locate some men staanding back and confering... these turn out to be the more reasonable leaders, talking about how to deal with the hotheads leading things.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 256):

Mustafa will try to introduce himself and join the discussion.

They make room for you and invite any ideas on stopping this fiasco.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 258):

I am first interested in their ideas, including what and who started it...

That are sort of at a loss, as other than trying to drag off the ring leaders and causing things to come to blows, they can't think of anything.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 260):

What about who and what is causing this?

A couple of men who were called up and fought for Catheran... seeing these men with their weapons has caused them to want to settle up.
They see these guys as Zenther's Soldeirs who wern't beaten and should be.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 262):

Mustafa will try to point out to the leaders that these guys deserted Zenthers army rather than fight. Zenther no longer exists and these folk are from the south of Catheran, but if you attack them, you acknowledge Zether is a separate nation and so bring back what was gone. The Duke worked hard to get rid of Zether, he will not be happy about folk reviving Zenther, regardless of the reason.

Kenyan stands near the refugees, ready to defend them if neessary.

The leaders listen and agree that they should be alowed to move along, but doubt they can yell over the mob leaders.
A mounted sergeant rides over and asks all of you to come to the front of the unruly group, as the Capatin wants this defused and will shoot the loud mouths if they do not stop the yelling.
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Resistingthe temptation to ease his sword in its sheath Kenyan smoothly works his way to the front.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 266):

Mustafa joins him, asking the sergeant what the captain has in mind.

The Captain stands in his stirrups QUIET ALL The Duke has sent these men to take the escapees from Zenther's Army back to their lands, now that it is a part of Catheran. They did NOT fight you, They fought to get away from the Nobles who created the war. They are men like you, who wanted nothing to do with  the....

One of the trouble makers yells Well we'll show 'em how we treated them and raises his hand with the sword in it as he says it. A moment later he screams as an arrows appears through his forearm.

A Village leader Steps  up   NOW! Stop this and get back to your work. You violate the Duke's law and he'll not help our lands prosper... GO HOME.

There is a bunch of talking and yelling and thin trickle of men start walking away towards the village... as they do, other men notie and start following them. within 15 minutes or so, there are a group of 15 men still making noise and trying to help the one with the arrow in his arm.

Someone attacked us, we got a right to gather and make our feelings known!

The Captain growls  Get out of my sight or I'll have you delivered to the Duke, and the next fool who raises a weapon can expect an arrow as well.

Now looking at a formed squad of 12 cavalry with lances, they start to back peddle.

The leader of the 'Wanna be Wildings' comes over and suggests that moving on may be wiser, his men are uncomfortable after this .

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 268):

We tend to agree that moving on might be wise...after resting for the night.
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It's approaching mid Morning, so everyone packs up and moves on... it makes for a long day.
The "wildings" now post their own guard inside the one put up by the Captains men augmented by Squire Worley's few.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 270):

We will allow them their own guard, though we do point out that the guard was successful last time.

"True but they are headed towards self regulation so I feel we must allow that they may start that with their own guard. Still 'supplemented' with ours, of course."

The Captain shrugs  Can't hurt as long as they stay inside and don't start anything. I am concerned that we may see more trouble. I have asked for an increased escort. We have about three days marching to reach the port. And the city may also be a problem, as they were very poorly treated during the war.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 273):

"It seems that misinformation is also part of the problem. The locals need to be aware that these folk also rebelled against the nobles by deserting, risking their families.

Are the ships ready, that we could take them quickly?"

I have no clue  the Captain responds.  However I think we are in for an eventful few days. It might be wise to meet the ships at some close location so we don't have to pass through the towns and cities on the peninsula.

Kenyan just keeps quiet.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 275):

"I agree. Can you arrange that?"

No, I have no knowledge in that realm, but I understood you once captained ships and was hoping you might be able to.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 278):

"I can captain ships myself, but dealing with other captians is more challenging. I would need a pair of mounts to ride ahead then. Which ships were you to deliver the men to?"

The Captain shakes his head  I was told to bring you there, no other information was provided. But Perhaps you should also take Squire Worley with you lest some official have his undergarments in a knot. I have some additional men coming and we should be good for another day or so. With a horse, you should be able to get to Spirue by evening and arrange something. The Horse will pay for being pushed so, but a replacement should be available there.

Kenyan nods that he is willing to make the journey.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 281):

Mustafa nods, and he, Lilith and whoever else comes will prepare to leave at once.

Kenyan briefs his lieutenant while he makes preparation to leave.

They find youthree fresh horses, the capatain gives youa written assessment of his postion and threats, and you head off at a trot (Canter?).

Can never remember which is more energy conserving..

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 284):

We will ride off in a way that will conserve energy and move as fast as possible to get to port hopefully by tonight if possible.

Things go reasonably well and you arrive in Spirue before sunset. Finding the fellow in charge is also a blessing and beween you and the squire, the problem is made clear, the seriousness is made clear and things get rolling.
 He wants Mustafa t guide the ships while Lileth and Squire Worley  head back to change the embarkation point to a small town much closerto wher they are.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 286):

Can Lilith come with me?

Otherwise agree.

Krenyan is happy with that. He plans to take a pair of horses (and tack), rotating between riding one or the other every half and hour or so.

I suppose... though I thought the Squire might need the additional prson more.

(That's up to Lilith; Kenyan doesn't consider it his place to ask such a thing. However, if she offers, he will gratefully accept.)

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 290):

And clearly Mustafa would prefer his wife beside him. But quite happy to discuss this with her, with the emphasis on being together rather than her being with someone else. They do not seem to have had a lot of time alone recently.

What ever... she is slightly put out as it sounds like you don't trust her. But she goes off with Mustafa.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 292):

Mustafa will make it very clear why he wants to spend time with her when they are alone.

My wife would be put out if I sent her off with another man without objecting!

She is quite intelligent and can see why it would have been wise for her to accompany the squire... a few days wasn't a big deal and she was aware of all the background.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 294):

I (player) am not even sure why it would be wise for her to accompany him...what could she contribute that he could not do?

OK Arguing is solving nothng,... you have it your way.
I see it differently, two people are always safer than one, and she is anaccomlished archer and not shabby in any other form of combat.
That makes the both of them safer going back.

Now Let's drop it.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 296):

Ok. That was not meant to be an argument, but a genuine question...I did not appreciate the risks involved in travel in what I thought were civilised lands.

So we go our separate ways, Mustafa on the ship(s) to bring them to the meeting point, and Kenyan to the people we are taking, right?

Rougly what distance will Kenyan have to cover?

Yes, onward....  Kenyon has a very long day at a good clip, which will wear out the Horse(s), or he can move a bit moreslowly and arrive the following day with horses that can travel some after a rest.

The ne agreed embarkation point is Choppy Bay, which often has a chop due to winds blowing staright in, however there is a  peninsula that provides a good harbor near the mouth of the bay and with a bit of careful sailing, you can sail out and go where ever , even with the wind into the bay.  The wind tends to blow food into the bay, making it a good fishing location, thus the town.

Would Kenyan meets up with the group after a very long day, riding one horse, then jogging on foot leading both, then riding the second horse, then repeat. He shares the tiredness with the horses, but hopefully prevents them from being ruined.

I will assume the Good squire is wearing his armor?
He would only slow the progress by running... using the two horses, he can make it and not "Ruin" either hors, but they will both be exhausted, as there is no rest running beside the other carrying the squire, just less weight and thus less tiring.

If weight distribution is liekely to help then he can do that, keeping his torso covered. But ok, the idea is to get to the migration group before having to spend a night alone in the unknown.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 302):

How many ships will be needed for all the new immigrants traveling legally by boats?

At least 5 decent sized ships, able to hold about 40+ men each

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 304):

That is going to take some coordination. Work with them to get them to the meeting point in time.

It will, although your letter and seal should clear some of the BS fairly quickly.
A Leadership roll might assist.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 306):

Or not...

Just work with it .. Lileth is a woman in a man's world here, so if she keeps her tunic down they won't pay a lot of attention to her.

You get some resistance, which the Squire can assist with be fore he has to leave.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 308):

Right. So jump to getting there, or there is something to sort out on the way?

Let's get the ships organized, which mostly means getting  the city governemt and harbpr master on your side.

The Harbor master is willing, but the city government is worrying about Money, public acceptance, freedom to choose between doing this and fishing and of course Money and Influence.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 310):

City governance is not effected when the ship sets sail. What is their real concern? Mustafa will go to see them.

Keyan updates the captain with the plan and intended meeting place with the ships.
He then repeats that with and then his own men* while having food and taking rest.
After giving the horsea a pat, a few words and some carrots he gets his own men to take care of the horses.

Felling a little better [+1 FP] the Squire, accompanied by a couple of his men, does the round of the group, listening to various folks sympathetically trying to give reassurance. He updates the leaders of the migrants, checking thereafter with the Lord's captain. If nothing untoward he then settles for a jolly good night's sleep. Hopefully.

It may bnot be, but the City Government controls the docks and more. They are not about to let go of any authority they have.
What it is about is clearly laid out in a previous message.

The Squire finds the men a fair bit closer than where he left them. The Horses are tired, but between them, you should be able to ride all day tomorrow by just exchanging them when one grows tired.

Kenyan continues moving forwards with the group making steady progress as best they can.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 314):

Ok, let's address those issues in that message.

Money: I have the Dukes orders for the Dukes fleet. What money are they entitled to, by law.
Public Acceptance: The public are not likely to accept the ex-zenther troops marching through the city. I am taking steps to avoid that. Stopping me taking these steps in defiance of the Dukes orders is likely to create conflict.
Freedom to choose between doing this and fishing: the council can fish all they like. The ships are trade ships belonging to the Duke. They don't belong to the council.
Money: already covered
Influence: They will loose their influence if the create conflict by disobeying the Duke. What other influence is at stake?

Money: I have the Dukes orders for the Dukes fleet. What money are they entitled to, by law.

What Duke's fleet?  these are fishing boats and merchants he wants to use. He'll pay a fair price to the captains. Th port gets nothing, including landing fees and fish/trade while these ships are gone.

Public Acceptance: The public are not likely to accept the ex-zenther troops marching through the city. I am taking steps to avoid that. Stopping me taking these steps in defiance of the Dukes orders is likely to create conflict.

And puts you and the Duke on the Hotseat ... so what will be paid to avoid the hot seat  (no you cannot just kill them off).

Freedom to choose between doing this and fishing: the council can fish all they like. The ships are trade ships belonging to the Duke. They don't belong to the council.

Not true! And the ships mean i come to the city, which you will be depriving them of...

Money: already covered ............  and corrected.

Influence: They will loose their influence if the create conflict by disobeying the Duke. What other influence is at stake?

Or will they? Ifthey are standing up for the rights of the locals over a miss guided policy from the Duke's Government, the Locals are far more likely to support them.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 316):

Money. Ahha, so these are hired ships. That would have been good to know before. The ships are under the authority of their masters. They also do not need to do the work that those fees are supposed to cover. Besides, fishing boats like Mustafas are too small   for this task...you need traders, and traders travel to trade. Other ships will come, and they will get paid through them. What are they asking for in addition?

Public Acceptance, what hot seat? We are trying to avoid bringing them into the city. Let the public know it is them trying to bring ex-zenther troops in and see who has the hot seat.

Freedom...huh? I do not even understand what they are saying here. Ok, we covered above that the ships are private traders...and traders travel long trips to distant lands. Traders that stay in one city do not make money for anyone, and we are taking them to distant lands.

Influence, but they are not standing for the locals. Locals need traders to travel far and wide to trade, and they are stopping that. Perhaps we need a corruption inquiry by the locals magistrate...

That inquiry should be done in about 8 months or so... see an issue?

You used larger fishing boats to bring troops to Zila and surrouns, each carried about 40 men and the Captains liked the Guaranteed income, although not the risk.

You hope to beatPoliticians at their game of swaying public opinion?  Better you make some sid dals with ship captains.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 318):

Of course it will take time to resolve, but pressure will be immediate.

I transported far fewer persons in a large fishing boat. Hence the assumption these are bigger than fishing boats.

Deals with ship captain's are first choice, and will persue that. But will also let the public know what is going on.

The squire continues the jouurney a little subdued due to the activities of the previous day.
He still makes the effort to talk with folks and assimilate the local culture.

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OOC: How many days have we been travelling with these folks?

OK, so this doesn't drag on forever... a Count shows up from Catheron and all problms disolve rapidly as he starts taking names.
The Harbor master finds 5 ships of suitable size and introduces you to the Captains.
The Count has the finanacing covered and things suddenly move smoothly.
Several local officials go to some length to make sure you know they weren't a part of the problem.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 321):

So the ships had not been arranged? Ok, lets get moving to the meeting point. Mustafa did not have the cash on him to make the arrangements anyway, as far as I know.

Nope, you would have issued letters  which would have grantd them the money. This way it's a more sure thing.

It takes the better part of the day to get into the Harbor, and the Number of ships arouses a lot of questions. The Following morning the soldiers come marching in and two ships at a time are loded at the wharf. It takes a while  but as the second two ships are finishing loading a mob shows up. The Captain along with the additional soldiers block the entrance to the dock, but soon small boats start to move out with torches.  It looks to be getting ugly as several of the shipsstart mounting heavy crossbow on their railings. An arrow or two sail out to drop a couple torch carriers  and the small craft back off.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 323):

Even as the ships arrived Mustafa would start to explain to the locals that he was loading up troops to take back to Zenther. They would be told that the troops would be peaceful if the locals behaved, but if they wanted to pick a fight, against the Dukes direction, then they would also lack the Dukes protection and would find themselves fighting the Dukes men as well.

The town leaders understand, ask a few questions and spend a lot of time trying to get people to go home.
But thepeople are not responding any better than the last bunch in many cases. Regardless, the situation is much more in hand here.

By nightfall all five ships are out of the harbor and headings south

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 325):

Glad to finally be out of that situation, Mustafa turns his mind towards dealing with what is ahead. The group will need to be taken to their homes, hopefully spread far and wide. He starts by taking a survey if where folk want to go.

Although originally headed for Zila, the wind pushes them West and they end up in a moderate Haror that Mustafa and the others are unfamiliar with.  One of the Captains has been here before and while the unloading is underway, he briefs you as to where you are. Once the men are unloaded and moved outside the city, a check of where the men want to go proves this landing may have been fortunate, as most are on this side of the lands.  You are almost directly across the bay from Zila (Due West)  and can follow the main road south along the river.
The next issue is that these men want to spread to the four winds, as their homes are in all directions and there is no way you can go to each.
You start drafting documents, place the seal you were given on them and send one with each group [ there are almost always several men from each location] that is near or futher west.
 Then you provide them a few coins [ supplied by the count] and send them on their way. This reduces your number of ex soldiers by 27.
Now 183.
You move to the river road and head south.

Kenyan does a tour of his men and then checks with the Mustafa and his wife.

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OOC: Roughly how many days has Kenyan been away from his lands?

Kenyan's men are doing  ok  and surveying this country with interest.  They will point out the tremendous  potential, mountains, rivers, plains fine farming land and wonder how it could have kept these people so dirt poor. [You have already determined that many still struggle, as the war's effects are by no means gone]

Since we haven't done anything much, I grant two character points to each of you.

While waiting for the opportunity to check in with Mustafa and his wife and also with the captain, Squire Worley continues to talk with the remaining ex-soldiers, again trying to tease out cultural variations.

As much as the Squire wishes to learn more about the life down here, he finds that the commoners had little life outside of whatever their Nobles demanded of them.  He hopes that he may find a decent noble who has not been discharged who may provide more information.
The ex Soldiers seem very interested in how things are going and have stopped and talked with the locals whenever they could, he has noted that they seem to be relaxing a bit more as they see that what they were told is more true than not.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 331):

Mustafa is happy for small groups to break off, though he asks each for where they are headed. Noting this information down, he begins planning to visit each and every location, as well as noting the major towns the pass through. Told that he will be checking up that they arrive home, he begins the complex task of getting as many men home as he can as quickly as he can.

Within the first week, as you move south, you have had some 116 men leave the column to head to homes. You are down to 67 men headed further south and a five who plan to go East of Zila to the holding you run in Absentia.

Almost incapable of doing nothing, Kenyan tries his hand a helping with keeping the ship sailing. (Knots, navigation and nautical things are fine, but scrubbing decks, sowing sails or splicing the mainbrace are off his activity list.)

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 333):

Continue on, sending them and seeing to it they arrive safely for all involved...

Most of the old holdings are welcoming the men back... another man to help with the farming and caring for those whose Husband didn't come back.

You also learn more than you wanted to know about how abused some of these people were. One very pretty young woman sticks in your mind as she ran when you appeared, they explained taht her looks caused her to be used by the lord and then every man who could when the lord left... she will never be normal and never ever trust a man they say. The Lord was killed and his body brought home and buried in the family plot. She has been found over there many nights relieving herself on his grave, so often that it reeks, although the flowers grow well.
The current leaders are not about to stop her.

Most Holdings have some sort of owner of manager, as the Duke placed those of his officers  who were interested as managers, Not Nobles mind you, but still in charge. The Duke has already had one group of inspectors pass through to ensure there is no abuse. Only two managers and a single noble have been removed for not following the plan. The Noble was hung in front of his people for his actions (that bad).

The Duke goes up a notch in Kenyan's estimation, not the the Duke would probably give a fig.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 337):

He obviously does, as he needs the support of the people,who are led by the leaders, of which you are one...

Kenyan says to Mustafa, "The Duke is a good leader it seems. Much better than most."

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 339):

"Indeed. Which does raise the concern about succession. I would have fought against most nobles, but I fought for him because of that."

Mustafa understands the hard feelings many hold for the suppressive regime that was. He is just as keen as the Duke to ensure justice for all and a change in leadership.

Apart from fiddling around the ship, getting less and less in the way and becoming almost useful, Kenyan spends time every day doing leadershipy things and also takes up with a bit of fishing, something he's not had much time for recently.

Fishing in the river is worthwhile... you have been off the ship for about a week. You are well south of the coast line below the start of the delta.
You can see where the road crosses the river and runs into a town, which was D'Stang's personal holding until the Duke got to him. There is stillsome argument about the new name of the city. The D'Stang castle is tall grey and forboding, although now open to tours.

You are having some trouble in keeping the last 60 odd men from just wandering off on their own.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 342):

Are they local? Where are they going?

These are the men you are escorting homward... they are from further south. But this place has changed a lot from when they left and they are excited to see it... despite having virtually no funds to speak off.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 344):

Then start talking about how their own lands have also changed. The will get paid when they also get home.

They get the drift aand agree to go along with the plan, but they sure are curious about all the changes.

The good Squire is thinking about some land down here to winter in ... it's obviously much more pleasant here in the winter.

"How much is land down here, Mustafa? Perhaps a hill near a river."

Squire Worley scratches his ear, "Is Count D'Stang's place vacant?"
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In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 347):

"There are a number of locations looking for capable managers, but they are full time jobs, not winter retreats. The Duke decides who goes where."

"Well, fine. Guess I'll go back afterwards then," responds Kenyan with a diplomatic smile.

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 349):

Keep moving on?

Yes indeed, onwards

And Onwards you go. A few days further South and more of the group have branched off... you come to a nice holding, lots growing with fields, orchards and healthy, happy well fed people. You make your way over to see what is going on here, as this place stands out in many little ways.    As it turns out, the land holder is a baroness, whose husband made a series of poor decisions and died with the King.  The Lady of the house over turned many of his decisions and things got much better. Then one of the Kings men showed up and raised hell about how the serfs were being treated too well.  He apparently left sometimes during the following night and has not been heard of since. The Locals refuse to talk, but others in the nearby village suspect she had him done in ... at least that's the rumor that is rife.
The Duke passed by and confirmed her as Baroness, as well as removing her ex- from any authority or nobility, should he reappear.

You are treated Graciously, fed well, the few soldiers you have are also treated well and you suspect several will not move on, given the choice. In fact if you do drag them on, they'd probably drift back here behind you.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 352):

Mustafa is not looking to force them to move on, but reminds them that once they are back with families, the whole family can move back here if they want. There are no restrictions on movement within the kingdom.

The Baroness stops that and says that a family moving here needs to be approved so they have work and a place to live. Most of the Farm land is now being farmed. Skilled Craftsmen however would be good.

She also seems to take a liking to to Squire Worley and seeks to spend some time showing him the area and it's benifits.

Worley is amenable to being shown around the Baroness's area and shown its benefits.
Also , perhaps, an opportunity for liaison and assimilating more of the cultural differances. In fact Kenyan tells her that this is what he is doing.

(If she has an expert teacher then Kenyan is happy to spend some hours under tuition, Mustafa and his wife allowing).

In reply to Squire Kenyan Worley (msg # 355):

Neither Mustafa nor Lilith will get between the two of you!

We will be ready to move on, perhaps leaving the squire here until we take all the men back to their homes.

So the Squire and the Baroness hit it off. The Baroness, Lady Amelia Jules Throckwaddle, shows them a lovely evening, with a fine dinner.
Lileth and Mustafa are given a fine room and have servants on call.
Squire Worley is treated similarly although his bedroom is down a ways from theirs.

"A wonderful dinner and such a charming place you have," compliments Kenyan.

Thank You, come let me show you more of what I have...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 359):

Mustafa and Lilith will discreetly retire for the evening... without the servants present if Lilith consents!

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 360):

She has no need of servants.

In reply to Lileth (msg # 361):

So it will be a long steamy night...

Next morning?

Slow start it seems, but a nice breakfast about 9ish.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 363):

Ready to continue on our way...

The Squire is busy...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 365):

Then we give our regards and continue...

Very well, within two days travel south, you have turned everyone loose. those you have checkedon have been welcomed by family and neighbors, and when the understand that the Dukeis responsible for bringing them back, they are impressed. The Duke's stock goes way up.

You start back up the road.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 367):

How far is it to check on my own holdings?

Quitena long ways... over a weeks travel time.
The Squire and the Baroness seem to be plotting marraige.
It seems a lovely match although a bit of thought sees several issues that will need to be resolved.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 369):

Not the least of which are two lands far apart...

That is one for sure, and the difference in Status too.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 371):

Duke is not so big on that. He is a knight after all.

We shall see... expect a detour on the way back. Or did you just want to head for your holdings?
As long as you check on the soldiers dropped off on the way back, you have done all that was asked.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 373):

Check on the soldiers dropped off, then check on Squire and head back to my holdings is the plan.

Check, So far. soldiers are good. Baroness is happy all went well and has your room ready.
She and the Squire are working out details...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 375):

And my own holdings?

Are over a week away. So you set off that way?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 377):

Yes, give the Squire time to sort things out!