Baron's Business   Posted by Finger of Fate.Group: 0
Finger of Fate
 GM, 2473 posts
Wed 29 Jun 2022
at 17:49
Baron's Business
This is where the Baron and Baronness will carry on.
Finger of Fate
 GM, 2475 posts
Fri 1 Jul 2022
at 17:54
Baron's Business
AND you need to Monitor the other thread as well.
There is information in there for you as well.
Baron Kenyan Worley
 player, 110 posts
Fri 1 Jul 2022
at 17:57
Baron's Business
OOC: Is this thread open to Mustafa also? is this a RP thread? Or just a mechanics thead?
Oh! i didnt't realise that (about the other thread). I only read where I'm involved (or GM says otherwise).
it minimises me trying to remember what the character doesn't know that I do. And bleedover of the same.
Finger of Fate
 GM, 2476 posts
Fri 1 Jul 2022
at 18:01
Baron's Business
At the moment both threads are open. Is there a reason this one should be closed? I could see reasons I suppose.
Baron Kenyan Worley
 player, 111 posts
Sat 2 Jul 2022
at 09:18
Baron's Business
OK, I've been wrestling with the Ally/Dependent aspect of Amelia. In passing, I'm happy to do all the bookkeeping for this. Open book, of couse.  :)

Copy/paste of where we got to:
Increased status (2 to 4) = +10CP Edit: Actually it's: (1 to 4) = +15CP
Increased standard of living = goes from $3k pm (Status 2) to $60k pm (Status 4). Wow. [B265]
Status 4 requires Wealth level Average +4 Fithy Rich (TL4 pay $800x100=$80k pm [B516-7]
So, Wealthy => Filthy Rich = +30CP
Total +35CP 40CP

versus

Duty to the Duke (Quite rarely, but extremely hazardous) (6) [-7CP]
Duty to the Duke (Most of the time, non-hazardous) (15) [-10CP]
Duty to NW Catheran (Brother, vasaal. Fairly often. Hazardous) (9) [-5CP]
Duty to Luscious Meadows (Quite often. 12 or less) [-10CP]
Dependent (Amelia)


So, picking this up again, here are some of my thoughts:
Amelia starts as Ally but would like her to end up as Dependent. At 250CP versus Kenyan's 167CP, RAW she;s not allowed to be a dependent, so "phasing over" would be needed. (More on that later).
Kenyan started off as a wealthy fellow of some importance and only limited ability and limited responsibility.
He's now become immensely wealthy, of great responsibility and still only limited ability. I want to grow his ability.

Query 1: Is Amelia combat capable? (How skilled?) Or is she a big bundle of socio-econonomic skills?

OK, so Kenyan has just gained a huge amount of wealth.
Assuming it's probable that the Baroness getting married to Kenyan won't vastly increase her wealth, then I propose that the pair swop Walth status, with her being somewhat financially dependent on him (long term).
{In mechanics terms, Amelia was Fithy Rich [50CP] but that has majorly fallen to Kenyan to control (as the new Baron), so Amelia "only" has her personal wealth remaining, although Kenyan doesn't actually stop her doing anything, her Advantage drops to Wealthy [20CP].}

Query 2: Did Amelia start with the Advantage Filthy Rich [50CP]?

u>Query 3:</u> Did Amelia start with these Disadvantages? If so, at the same frequencies?
Duty to the Duke (Quite rarely, but extremely hazardous) (6) [-7CP]
Duty to the Duke (Most of the time, non-hazardous) (15) [-10CP]
Duty to Luscious Meadows (Quite often. 12 or less) [-10CP]

This message was last edited by the player at 12:38, Sat 02 July.

Finger of Fate
 GM, 2479 posts
Sat 2 Jul 2022
at 19:02
Re: Baron's Business
Baron Kenyan Worley:
OK, I've been wrestling with the Ally/Dependent aspect of Amelia. In passing, I'm happy to do all the bookkeeping for this. Open book, of couse.  :)

Copy/paste of where we got to:
Increased status (2 to 4) = +10CP Edit: Actually it's: (1 to 4) = +15CP
Increased standard of living = goes from $3k pm (Status 2) to $60k pm (Status 4). Wow. [B265]
Status 4 requires Wealth level Average +4 Fithy Rich (TL4 pay $800x100=$80k pm [B516-7]
So, Wealthy => Filthy Rich = +30CP
Total +35CP 40CP

versus

Duty to the Duke (Quite rarely, but extremely hazardous) (6) [-7CP]
Duty to the Duke (Most of the time, non-hazardous) (15) [-10CP]
Duty to NW Catheran (Brother, vasaal. Fairly often. Hazardous) (9) [-5CP]
Duty to Luscious Meadows (Quite often. 12 or less) [-10CP]
Dependent (Amelia)


******************* It's only an 8 CP difference, not a huge deal, hand wave.

So, picking this up again, here are some of my thoughts:
Amelia starts as Ally but would like her to end up as Dependent. At 250CP versus Kenyan's 167CP, RAW she;s not allowed to be a dependent, so "phasing over" would be needed. (More on that later).
Kenyan started off as a wealthy fellow of some importance and only limited ability and limited responsibility.
He's now become immensely wealthy, of great responsibility and still only limited ability. I want to grow his ability.

********  You sure you aren't a guy?  "I married above me, so now I run the place ;-)"  No, She is worth more $$$$ than you and has far more management ability than you do.  No, she is not a combat leader, thus you complement each other. As a pair you are hard to beat,  Individually, each of you has some fairly big weak areas.

Query 1: Is Amelia combat capable? (How skilled?) Or is she a big bundle of socio-econonomic skills?    ******  B for sure.

OK, so Kenyan has just gained a huge amount of wealth.    ****** Kenyan has gained access to a huge amount of wealth.  One of Amelia's dirty little secrets is that she knows where the body is buried, don't be a greedy candidate for a second dirty little secret.

Assuming it's probable that the Baroness getting married to Kenyan won't vastly increase her wealth, ****** not in the short term, but you provide other benefits, and she wasn't in need of money anyway.

then I propose that the pair swop Walth status, with her being somewhat financially dependent on him (long term).   **** No, she won't accept that for sure, and you'll lose a lot of respect.
{In mechanics terms, Amelia was Fithy Rich [50CP] but that has majorly fallen to Kenyan to control (as the new Baron), so Amelia "only" has her personal wealth remaining, although Kenyan doesn't actually stop her doing anything, her Advantage drops to Wealthy [20CP].}

Query 2: Did Amelia start with the Advantage Filthy Rich [50CP]?  ******* I had her at Very Wealthy, 30 CP  20x normal wealth , they did just have a war here.

u>Query 3:</u> Did Amelia start with these Disadvantages? If so, at the same frequencies?   Generally yes, specifically no.  She could not do many of the Very Hazardous things, and would not have been asked to, although she might have been asked to wine, dine etc. some fellow for information and access to his luggage and things.

Duty to the Duke (Quite rarely, but extremely hazardous) (6) [-7CP]
Duty to the Duke (Most of the time, non-hazardous) (15) [-10CP]
Duty to Luscious Meadows (Quite often. 12 or less) [-10CP]

Baron Kenyan Worley
 player, 112 posts
Sun 3 Jul 2022
at 11:28
Baron's Business
Realising how perfectly the Baroness complements him in skills, Kenyan hires the best martial trainer they find, trusting that he'll pick up some soft skills by osmosis from his talented wife. With that sorted and training for horsemanship, bow and sword occupying a lot of his waking day, Kenyan still embarks on a tour of their ten landed knights. The trainer uses the journeys to make Kenyan sit straighter in the saddle, to steer better with his knees and so forth before progressing to mmounted archery.

The newly-made baron leaves it Lady Amelia to figure out the best way to roll out his intended initiative to increase the literacy and numeracy of thir people, even if it starts with just one per family.

======
OOC: I've updated the char sheet with where we got to above.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:38, Sun 03 July.

Finger of Fate
 GM, 2481 posts
Sun 3 Jul 2022
at 17:57
Baron's Business
Three days into your trip, you are called home, Mustafa is there as is a meassage from the Duke.

From the wilding thread: The Duke has sent a message to you both by fast messenger.
Basically a Tribe from Kir is laying waste to the area along the border with Catheran South.
He wants you to gather as big a force as you can put together and go there to see what is going on.
This area has been quiet for many, many years, so something has set things  off."


Continue in the Wilding Thread

This message was last edited by the GM at 17:59, Sun 03 July.

Mustafa Zephyr
 Player, 1865 posts
 "Shark killer"
Sun 3 Jul 2022
at 22:09
Baron's Business
In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 8):

Mustafa will have his men training while he seeks an audience with the Baron...