Mustafa arises with the sun and heads to the wharf, picking up a sweet roll and two healthy sandwiches of ham and cheese. He also brings along a small jar of pickled eggs for snacking.
At the Wharf he runs into his boss I see you have been drumming up business. Don't be gettin' into that old boat o' yers.  You now have Sedric and Huber workin' fer ye and ye will be sailing the Misstress o' the River o' there. Them Arabs wanna go home in style it seems.

The Mistress is a 50 foot long galley with both a square sail and a lanteen sails and 8 or locks. It's way more than this little group needs, but you know she is rumored to be faster than anything else around and handles well to boot.  Getting to captain her is a feather in your cap for sure.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 1):

Mustafa looks over the new vessel with interest. It will be nice to Captain her, but he knows that it comes with greater responsibility as well. He looks her over well to be sure, evaluating the number of crew needed to row her upstream, and the amount of supplies she can carry.

[OOC: Still at sea, but have some connection. Expect to be back next week]

You have little time to assess your new Boat as Omar and his fellows show up shortly after you do and want to go back to where you picked them up. It will be the same routine as last time, you'll wait there and then bring some people back to Zornath. Judging by their actions and the big stupid smile on your boss, they paid him, not you.
The Arabs pile into the boat and the owner has his guys untying the lines before you are even settled. You order your two crewmen to get shore and hold the vessel against the dock until things are stowed to your satisfaction. The owner is nodding and smiling.

Once ready, you have them push off and the two crew each take a sweep and propel the boat out into the river. There the sweeps are shipped and the Lanteen sail raised, the wind is moderately strong and the boat fairly skips across the water. By sunset, you are back to the Magnaflume. This new Boat really moves! It take 2 ½ days to reach the same point Omar pointed out the first time, you beach the boat partially and tie it securely so the current can't take it away.  Omar leaves one man with you as a guard to assist the three of you. The rest take off over the embankment and into the dunes.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 4):

Mustafa found the new craft very capable. But it would also be a prize. He had the men set up camp on the boat, only going ashore for firewood and the campfire, they would always need to have at least one guard aboard.

Then it was the waiting game. He carefully looked around at the local area, noting areas where problems could sneak up on them.

Two days pass with no one showing up. The two sailors with you try to use hand signals to the Arab, to ask when they were coming back, but he just smiles and shrugs.

On the third day about midday, Omar and a group of about 11 other people show up. He lets the guard leave and speaks with you

We need go back to Zornath quick as we can. Have Princess with us.

You look around and realize the one most wrapped up in a burnoose is indeed a woman.
You have the men stowing gear and people as quickly as you can, and offer your hand to the Lady as she tries to step in on the step provided by Omar, She turns and smiles at you ... you see a rather dark skinned woman with striking features.

You learn that her name is Ryllaazade.

Picture at Group B for those who want to see what she looks like.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 7):

Mustafa just waits until the Arab returned, assuring the crew he will likely be some time. Once he does, he helped her aboard and makes way as fast as he can, using any competent Arab skippers to sail in the day and he will sail at night if at all possible, too make things as fast as he can.

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 8):

Their are no Arab boatmen this time, but your two assistants are capable and willing to prove it... It still take some 3 days sailing day and night to get to the Zornath river. There, the wind becomes less favorable and even with the Lateen sail, you have to tack back and forth to make head way. You guess is that it is still faster than trying to row.  One of the Issues is that when the Princess needs to make a bathroom break, it's a good half hour or so with guards out and screens erected. She tries to contain herself, but Mother Nature will only accept "Wait a bit" for so long.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 9):

Mustafa will try to set up a special seat for the princess at the stern of the vessel, using any tools he can find aboard for repairing the vessel.

All the same, he will make what headway he can.

It's not worth the effort in the end, although the effort and thought are appreciated. Omar gives you a pat on the back and the Princess smiles but doubts she could be comfortable cantilevered over the stern like that.

You are still tacking back and forth when one of the Boat men points out a large mansion near the river that has a lot of activity and soldiers... Omar wants to get closer, but not land.  He hails the soldiers and ask who/what/where they are and discovers that the Duke of Catheran is there, he immediately wants to be docked there (There is a dock).

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 11):

Mustafa will make for the dock, and have the men cast lines. Once secured, he will allow the passengers to leave.

Mustafa jumps on the dock and helps the passengers and the Princess onto the dock. then follows them up onto the grass where a crowd of soldiers and Arabs forms. The Princess stays back and off to one side, and you move to her side to protect her as does one of the Arabs with a large two handed axe ... Halberd is what you think it is called.

You see a figure you recognize as the Duke leave the house wuith a Lady and head down toward the group.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 13):

Mustafa will keep a watchful eye on proceedings and their surroundings...is the princess the only woman?
This message was last edited by the player at 07:46, Mon 29 July 2019.

Which is the Duke?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:54, Tue 30 July 2019.

MUSTAFA, Are You awake?  She shakes you a little.

In reply to Ryllaazade Qaadna (msg # 16):

Yes, but I doubt I would know, so i said nothing to let those more knowledgable answer. It is better to appear ignorant than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt!

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 17):

OOC - You have met the Duke... you do know who he is...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 18):

In that case I would introduce her to him then!

The duke sees you off to his side and turns toward you and approaches with the Lady beside him.



Ryllaazade says Please make the introductions Mustafa, it is important we meet with a man introducing me to him.

Behind you, you hear her Body Guard right behind the two of you, and unsettling man, heavily armored with a Halberd. he has never uttered a word the whole time he has been traveling with you.
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In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 20):

Mustafa steps forward.

"Your Highness it is my pleasure to introduce to you the lovely Princess Qaadna..."

He would then go on to name what he knows of her parentage and where she hails from, before introducing the Duke to Princess Qaadna.

The Duke smiles and nods to Mustafa and then takes the princesses hand and kisses it as he says how glad he is that she has arrived.

You hear Panting and Omar arrives too late... the Huge armored man stands behind the princess and looks to be on edge as he looks around in all directions.

Omar turns his head to you and says softly   Thank You Mustafa, that would have been my head!

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 22):

"Glad to be of assistance. Now it is out of our hand, right?"

Yes, out of Yours, but I am here to aid her....

In reply to Omar Al Dun (msg # 24):

"I see."

He steps back and looks around, looking for any potential trouble at this critical juncture.

At this point all the soldiers are mollified and drifting away mostly, although most of the Arabs and a few of the soldiers are watching the Duke, Princess, Baroness etc. and the goings on.  As you watch, you note that the Duke and the Princess seem to be quite enthralled with each other and are still holding hands.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 26):

His task complete, Mustafa retreats back to his boat and awaits further orders, doing required maintenance as needed.

Omar will run down and throw him a small bag of coins, thanking him and releasing him.  There are 8 silver in the bag for you and the crew.
Assume you go back to Zornath Dock?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 28):

Unless someone wants to hire us, yes. 8 coins total or my share was 8 coins?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 29):

Everything was paid for, he give you(the captain) 8 silver as a tip. How you treat it is up to you.

Back at the Dock, your boss asks how it went, you note that there are a LOT of boats tied up and he acknowledges that things are grinding to a halt with the nobles men shooting at passing boats with crossbows and using some small boats to threaten them with boarding. Many don't care to take the risks. the amount some are willing to pay to ship things would be lucrative, if it could be done. Would you be willing to try it with a bigger crew, say 5 of you?  Put some shields up and have your own missile weapons to shoot back?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 30):

Ok. Thanks. How many crew? Also, what was Mustafa paid? He plans to share some...

Mustafa would definitely be willing to try. He asks if he can get anyone skilled with a crossbow, or any crossbows?

There are some who say they can use one... skill ... well everyone is an expert ;-)

You managed to get 7 silver as pay, your crew got 4 each.   This does not include the coin Omar gave you.

You previously had two, the owner is suggesting adding two more, the same large vessel you had, but well loaded down it sounds like. He'll also add some Boards and heavy shields to protect you from the bolts fired.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 32):

Mustafa will give 2 silvers each to the other crew, and keep the 4 for himself to make his pay 11.

Are there any crossbows to be had, with bolts, of course?

Their seems to be a bit of a run on them, but you find two, one a light cross bow (ST-8) and one heavier (ST-11); they want 3 SP for the Light one and 5 for the heavier one... that is with a pouch for quarrels and what quarrels they have on hand. 18 for the heavy and 14 for the light.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 34):

The heavier is preferred, and Mustafa will purchase that one with the bolts.

Normally, the bolts would all be the same...it is the strength of the bow and bowstring that determined the draw strength, and though very heavy bows could use heavier bolts (is siege crossbows), generally for such a small ST difference they would be the same...

OK, just the way they are selling them... To your eye, the lighter crossbow's bolts are a bit thinner and lighter.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 36):

How long would it take to be able to use one effectively? I doubt we have that time but I had to ask. Also, can I find someone to strengthen the Crossbow to 14?

Regardless for now I will get ready with my crew. Are any of them purchasing the cheaper crossbow? I will encourage them to do so with their new pay...

No chance to strengthen the bow.  It's a moderately easy skill (DX-4) to learn.

No one is purchasing the other bow, they don't have the free cash.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 38):

They both just got paid 3 silvers! Their problem, then!

Alright. What is the situation? We put a small wooden covering for the person on the steeringboard (Or wheel, as appropriate) and set up cover from which folk below decks can fire. Actually, do we have below decks?

Also set up buckets of water if they throw fire...

No, there is just the area below the rowing seats... there is a flat floor, but it is only about 8" above the deepest part of the hull ... The side boards are to cover the steersman (Oar) and others who might be shooting back. The hull side will stop any bolt fired from a hundred feet or so ... no one has reported any bigger engines.

Buckets of water are a good plan, just in case.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 40):

Since I understand the bridges are the problem, what can we set up to provide cover from above?

We will also soak the decks in water as we depart...and stow the sail to keep it safe. Do we have a spare? What vessel, and what is the mission?

This is the same longer Vessel you picked the Princess up in... just loaded down with grains mostly, some skins and some amber.
There are no bridges across the Magnaflume river, just it's tributaries, where you shouldn't need to go.

You have some ways to go before there is any threat, so the sail is going to be needed, may be wanted even if under fire, as it makes you faster, reducing exposure.  The threat is from small groups here and there  along the river, not for the whole length.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 42):

Ah, if there are no bridges, then yes, the sail would be good. Is there a spare sail? What is the width of the narrowest section of river?

I will hire other crew, especially looking for those with crossbow skills as they can be useful at range, and those with sewing skills that can repair sails...plus any with Armoury (Missile Weapon) skills...

Edit: Cash Total: $91.7 starting cash left over, + 7 Florins ($700) + 11 - 5 silvers (Last Pay minus crossbow, $120) = $911.7, Correct? Were we also going to update the Character sheet to say there were 2 knives instead of one, as per Private discussions, and add the Crossbow (ST 11, 1D+3 imp, Range 220/275, Acc: 4, 6 lbs, and 18 bolts in a quarrel)? Will probably add some purchases to that too...How common are creatures that need silver to be harmed in this world?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:33, Sun 04 Aug 2019.

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 43):

Within the area you travel the river varies between a 1/4 mile and a ½ mile wide.

All sailors of any skill can repair sails and tie knots. It's a part of boating (Sail).

You can hire Boatmen for roughly 10 (apprentice seaman)-15 (Able Seaman with experience) CP a day depending on skill, or hire soldiers who should be better with weapons, Have some armor but have no boat skills for  10-12 CP a day.


$120 = 6 SP... check your math.

Consider the knife there. A Crossbow Bolt is a Crossbow quarrel ... same item, different names. Quarrel is the more correct term.

You, nor anyone claiming expertise knows anything about creatures affected adversely by silver.

Minus the 5 sp for the crossbow = 6 sp. Did I miss something there?

With the quarrels, you are right. For some reason I was thinking a quarrel referred to the quiver.

With regards to the creatures effected by silver, that is fine. I was just checking to see if it was common knowledge.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:48, Mon 05 Aug 2019.

Not that I saw...  Go with 891.7

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 46):

Lost a silver piece? Ok so be it...$891.70.

I would also like to get 40 balanced Lead bullets to complement the ones I have (price $20) and 10 balanced Silver projectiles he would like to save for special enemies he wants to make a statement with! ($24).

I understand he has 2 Able seamen? He would like to increase the able seamen to 3, plus 2 apprentice seamen, and get 3 soldiers skilled with either bow or crossbow. Total wages: 65+36=101 cp per day.

But before he signs the contract, so to speak, he would like to find out more about potential contracts. Do they provide food? Pay?

If You hire them, you provide food. Your boss is rather Luke warm about hiring so many...dead weight he says.  @ able seaman he can see, he'll buy off on an apprentice, but no more.  He suggests the threat is being over blown.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 48):

I see. What about the details of the contract? What does it entail and cover? That is the best way I have of gauging the threat...

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 49):

Contracts are largely verbal, sealed by a hand shake.  You provide food, transportation to any remote place and any special tasks to be done (obviously a seaman does anything related to that task,  but if you also want him to sell or buy things on the trip, that is special and increases his cost. It is quite possible to create a very complex situation, and putting it in writing makes it clear to those who can read, but most can't and will steer away from any sort of written contract.  If you have something special you want the person to do, you get a Merchants guild master to witness and record the agreement as a neutral party.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 50):

Ok, so no-one is offering me a contract then. No lucrative offers to make the risk worthwhile? Perhaps a couple of lucrative offers together? Somebody wants some high value goods taken downriver?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 51):

Not so, several merchants have offered good money to take things down river, often along with one of their folks who will sell it.
You have plenty of choice in both sailors and soldiers, as there is a sudden slump in business.
You owner is being very parsimonious as a penny saved is a penny earned.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 52):

So if I take the most lucrative offers, as much as the boat can carry with room for troops, his much do I stand to get paid?

A Gold crown is offered, out of which you have to pay the crew, of course that's just the trip down, so you could also make money coming back as well.  There are some documents the Guild Masters want delivered, and that is a fair portion of the money.  A Bigger crew is going to reduce your share a good bit.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 54):

Right. How many days travel is it? And to where?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 55):

To Nardath, past where you have been going with the Arabs.  probably 5-7 days down and 7-10 back up. Plus time in port, about two ten Days.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 56):

Right. So I am looking at a 17 day round trip. A Gold crown (piece?) is worth $200, so about 11 coppers per day, if there is no work there.

There is a crew of myself, 2 able seamen and one apprentice, that are approved by the owner. Is that right?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 57):

Yes, that is the crew approved by the owner, who is busy to one side and letting you deal with the guildsmen.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 58):

Mustafa is thinking that unless they pay more, their goods are not going anywhere...

It's the next day before the merchants come slinking back  So 30 Silver to go down and we'll cover what ever part o 30 SP you don't make on what you bring back. We get first option on what'er it is.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 60):

"Agreed then. We will hire 2 troops to make sure the goods are safe. Or to at least give it our best shot. Load up, and we will gather some food."

You have to watch them closely as one of the seaman notes that they are over filling the boat ... trying to get as much to sell as possible aboard.
Once loaded to your satisfaction, you guide the boat out and down the river. She is a lot less handy than she was with just a group of people aboard. You also have thew Merchants man aboard, the one tasked to sell all this at a nice profit. He brings some food as well and is willing to contribute it to the common mess.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 62):

Mustafa does a little fishing, and encourages others to do the same in their down time. Glad to be on the water again, he heads for the middle of the river, instructing the crew to wet down the boat and take cover, and instructing the archers (troops) to take cover and prepare to defend. Unless the merchant can fight, he suggests he take cover between crates.

Well bags, no crates... you are again going north from Zornath to the great river Magnaflume... before turning south and heading down, you do not expect trouble until around the area east of Chisa or even further South. You are aware of the Duke moving forces from Zornath toward Chisa.

While sluggish, the boat sails well enough North with the wind, and uses the current once in the main river. The first three days are quiet. Do you beach for the night?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 64):

We will beach for the night, but insist that any who sleep do so aboard the boat, and at least 1 soldier (or myself) and 1 sailor be on watch all night. So three watches.

We will arrange the bags to make for beds as comfortable as we can. I will take the last watch, and will put out with a sail if the wind is favorable.

Fair enough the first wo nights, the last night you are un beaching in the morning when a small group of soldiers appears, they gallop toward you, but you are already 50 feet or more out into the river by the time they reach the Bank  One of them orders you to come back to shore; their uniforms look multicolored and unfamiliar.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 66):

"Not so sure. Who do you serve?"

Then, more quietly, he tells the crew to prepare to spend the night under sail, and to stay under cover. Can we see what arms and armour they have?

Cavalry... swords, shields and chest armor with helmets.

Ground the Boat, Yours is not to ask questions but to do as ordered by your betters.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 68):

"PIRATES ARE NEVER MY BETTERS.

Archers, take any you see with bows or crossbows, especially any without armour. If they come into the water with that heavy armour, they will not need bows to make them fish food. Take your time, make your shots count. The rest of you, take cover. "

He will ask the apprentice to hold a shield to protect the helmsman, and another to protect himself, whilst he makes for the centre of the river.

Two quarrles are loosed, one goes wide of the mark, the other hits the horse of the man trying to keep up with them along the bank. It doesn't look like a serious wound but all the horsemen with draw quickly.

You should be passing the Chisa river mouth this day.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 70):

Already content that the presence of the hired men was worth it, Mustafa decides against going ashore again in future, and presses on.

You pass the Chisa river about midday and stay out in mid stream...  you occasionally see soldiers on the banks, but they just watch.  The apprentice suggests  We could always camp on the East bank... haven't seen any soldiers over there.

The river keeps you moving and no one else tries to bother you. In about two more days you come upon the twin towns of Nardath on the Catheran side and Dirgon on the Desert Tribes side of the river. A flag flies over the city of Nardath, but it is too far to make out whose it is...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 73):

Mustafa is glad for the observation that no hostiles were observed on the eastern bank, noting that the desert is on that side and wondering if that may have had something to do with it. Prior to approaching the twin towns, he resolves to camp at least once there, to get a good nights sleep prior to arrival.

As he approached the twin towns, he is extra careful. Experiences so far have shown the desert folk to be more reliable, but one could not be too careful.He tried to stick with the middle of the river, but favoured the eastern side if forced to do so. He approached the twin towns with caution, looking to identify the flag flown on both cities...

Ah, a vision roll...

The Eastern side flies banners and pennants that ar clearly those of the Desert peoples. The call to prayers also says they control that side. The other side is definitely armed up, with guard on all the walls and various machines of war sited to cover all approaches. There are several that could fire your way, but none are attempting to do so.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 75):

Rolled 3 over perception, which would be vision as there are no vision modifiers...

Mustafa will keep to the desert side of the river bank...until he can see otherwise!

The Flag is just not familiar... the Arab side is glad to see you and wants to know what you have... the haggling starts... and from what you are gathering, the Merchant sent with you isn't getting offers anything like what he wants for the cargo.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 77):

Can we ask about who controls the other side of the river?

Of Course... depending on who you ask, you get differing answers.  the local merchants wag their heads no and say not good.
Passer by's you ask shrug and say something to the effect of typical infidels, not dangerous, but not of the one faith.

You note a Catheran native talking with other merchants ... when asked, he laughs, Of course they don't want you to go over there. But the Governor general raised the Cities colors and will not allow the rebel Nobles in.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 79):

The last answer was of great interest to Mustafa. He offers to take the merchant and the good over to the other city if the prices here are not to his liking...

Why thank you, If you'll give me a few to hopefully come to decent terms with one of these merchants, I'd be very appreciative.

A couple of river taxi boatmen start grumbling and talking rough.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 81):

Just to be clear, the ride was offered to the merchant we brought with us to sell our cargo. If any others want a ride, they are welcome to negotiate...

You take my job...my family is hungry.  one of them retorts.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 83):

"Our customer has been with us for several days. He was never your customer, do not claim what was never yours: that is thievery. I am sure all the holy books speak of that in clear terms, and I myself do not stand for thieves..."

He speaks politely, but firmly, as the original passengers and crew set out for the other side to negotiate with the merchants there.

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 84):

Well the merchant was NOT a member of your crew, but the boatman aren't sure and you leave with out further issue. The merchant suggests a docking location to save you some docking fees, but first you must deal with wind and current...  boating skill roll if you please.

Pretty sure he was an original passenger though!

Mustafa has trouble with the current getting to the point where the merchant indicates.

Nope, he came from Nardath by boat and is now goig back with you. He is a resident of Nardath.

The river tries to sweep you past the city, but with the sail up you are able to get far enough up stream after a couple of tacks to come down on the other side out of the main river flow and put into the harbor . Here there are a quite a few boats loading and unloading, which seems surprising given that everyone is supposed to be afraid to sail here.  A comment to the Merchant will get a nod, from across the river and at a costly price. The Arabs take advantage of our predicament and it causes hard feelings with those we considered friends. Sell your wares for a fairer price and they will threaten you, but you will make friends on this side.

Do you tie up at the stone dock with the man waving at you and pointing to it or at the more ramshackle wooden dock where the Merchant suggests?

What happened to this merchant then?

Mustafa will aim for the dock suggested by the merchant.

OK, I see the confusion... the Merchants of Zornath put a chosen man aboard to manage the sale of the goods and he is still there. The Merchant is a different person all together.

The Man on the stone dock becomes very animated and you can hear him yelling as you turn toward the wooded dock.  He is the local Arabs man, you would have got much the same offer for your goods there as well. Here, I expect you will do better, as will the locals. I'll warn the guards, the Arabs sent some toughs over last time to cause trouble, I expect the guard will be quick to prevent that from happening again.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 89):

Ah, OK, so I have 2 Merchant at the moment. I did not really intend to pick up a local, but I guess we did.

I will suggest to our merchant that he go around and ask about what other prices are. We have moved once, and at his direction we can do so again. Basically, I am accommodating the Merchant we brought with us.

The one you provided a ride back to nods, and suggests he ask several different merchants whose warehouses he points out on the quay.

Figure there are four, numbered 1-4  You can roll a merchant skill for your passenger, I'll do the locals.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 91):

Mustafa is happy to go where he directs.

He might want to try some others, or roll himself! Rolls were, in order, 15, 12, 12, 16.

Mine are 10, 6, 12, 8 ...ouch, these boys are very astute and giving your merchant a very hard time. # 3 is the most even, offering you about 30% profit. That's not likely to be enough to continue these trips, so you'd like to see more.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 93):

Mustafa will ask if the Merchant knows any other potential buyers here.

[Given my history, he might want to roll himself!]

He knows them all, these were just the bigger and closer merchants.  he personally doesn't have the cash to buy it all, but will cherry pick the things he wants if allowed and  offer a 50% profit on those items.

He brings Merchants 5, 6, and 7 aboard
5- 10
6-16
7- 11

Go ahead and roll for your guy...  the dice hate me too.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 95):

He starts to imporve, finding out what they really want...

Rolled 12, 10 and 9 this time...

So Merchant 6 makes the best offer for everything  ... a whopping 70% profit offer.
You help him get everything loaded into his wagons.
He asks how soon you could return and provides the merchant sent with you a list of things in demand here.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 97):

Mustafa responds that his return is partially dependent on finding good with which to pay for the return journey as well. Glad that goods were sold, he seeks return fares now, asking the merchant who traveled with him to assist.

They have some issues as they lacked the raw materials (some of which you brought) but do have a moderate supply of manufactured goods.
It costs the Merchant with you (from Zornath) a bit over half his take to buy about a half load of products. We'll figure 40% or the original 70%.
This include grinding stones for mills, manufactured knives, blades, arrow points, tools, fabrics, rugs and clothes. You also get some of the local produce, preserved fish in glass jars (jars are in demand in Zornath, and full of food, makes them even better). The Boat is nowhere as heavily load as when it came down, but the Merchant Representative is happy and ready to head back.

Your new Merchant friend here, Horgath, says that you should be sure to visit him when you return. And he hopes soon, as the grain you brought will help feed people that can't afford the Arabs prices.  You start to wonder who your enemy will be, the Nobles or the Arabs.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 99):

I will ask Horgath if the Arab cities sell anything cheaply that could be sold for reasonable profit up north.

Well, yes, once they know you go back north, the prices should change to something more reasonable. They have medicines, Arab style weapons, which some fancy, Books  and spices, which can be very worthwhile to sell. Spices and Medicines should be the most profitable.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 101):

Ok. What do they have in the way of weapons? Some new bolts for the crossbow might be nice too.

Mustafa will get prices from both sides of the river for Fine quality weapons, Spices and Medicines.

What books are available?

$891.70-$44 for 40 more balanced Lead (bringing total to 100, -1 used at arrogant horsemen!) and 10 balanced silver sling bullets, yet to be added to character sheet. See message #47. So $847.7 to spend.

And your merchant buddy has about 140 silver to spend too.

Nardath isn't interested in selling weapons with the enemy literally at the gates. The Arabs are willing to sell Jambiya (2 sp) and Scimitars (5-8 SP for average quality, more for better).
They also have some 20 Composite Bows they will sell quite reasonably (6-8 SP).

Medicines almost all originate on the Arab side as do the spices.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 103):

Is Nardath interested in any of these weapons? I will ask them before I leave their shores.

What strength ratings are the composite bows? What are the Jambiya?

Also, what are the prices for Medicines and spices? I am thinking ore medicines...

The river taxi's get what they need or want from the Arabs, not worth your time.

ST 11 on the bows.

Jambiya is the short curved knife of the Arab world.

Both Medicines and Spices vary by which you are looking at.

Simple Herbs/Spices like Rosemary, Pepper (white and Black), Sumac, Cumin and hot peppers are around a SP per gallon (4 liter) bag.
Some mixtures are about half as much for the same price, although your nose says a small amount might go a long way.
Cardamom, Allspice, Nutmeg, Cinnamon, and dried Ginger are about the same as the mixtures.
A few spices are far more expensive, like Saffron, where a small vial is worth 2 SP and a larger bottle holding perhaps a half a glass of wine (say 5 Milliliters or a teaspoon) will set you back a Florin.

Medicines are even more varied, but those for coughs, sinus issues and stomach bugs are in the 1 SP realm for 5 Tablespoons (75 Ml.) worth.
They have healing balms and anything else you can think of as well (use the Alchemy section of the basic book for available things and costs).

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 105):

Cool. What about finer quality Scimitars? What skills would they use and how much are balanced ones?

I have never actually found the Alchemy section in Basic...what page is it on?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 106):

My mistake, page 210 of MAGIC

Scimitars are $350 for an average quality version with a 26" blade  (Falchion).
A Balanced version is  1050, a fine quality is also 1050, a blade with both would be 3150.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 107):

Right. Is Nardath willing to buy weapons for a greater price that the Arabs are willing to sell them?

Are Elixirs (such as healing) freely available for a similar price in Zornath?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 108):

Nardath has regular cross river trade with the Arabs... not always happy, but regular in both directions (grains don't grow as well on the east side). Entering the local trade as an outsider will be hard and not likely profitable.

Some of these potions, elixirs, salves and pastilles are available in Zornath, but are expensive, as they are imported from here! Prices here are about 40-60% of what would be asked in Zornath. The Arabs will also provide a discount if you buy larger quantities, which varies with Merchant house and how much you buy. Less expensive products for disease cures, healing , love potions etc. are popular. The really expensive stuff moves very slowly and may well be useless before you could sell it.  All these things have a limited shelf life.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 109):

I notice Magic has two prices...Healing potions are $250? I could probably only get 1 of the other sort, but perhaps 3 healing potions...would that be bulk?

Use the first price ... if you buy 5, it's $100 per, buy ten and it's $80 per... Your merchant companion starts digging in his gear... perhaps if we combine our monies we can buy enough to save more money... a $150 in Zornath is common and considered a good price.

He produces $135.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 111):

Mustafa is happy to get 10 for $800. If the other merchant wants to put in, he should buy in lots of 1 bottles to avoid complications. So $80 for 1, or $160 for 2.

$847.7 - $720 = $127.7. Any Bolts for his crossbow?

You find a few crossbow bolts, 13 to be exact. It seems the people across the river have been buying them up by the bucket load.

You get 10 Healing potions, which the merchant with you pushes you to let him sell for you. His commission is only 10% since you have been a traveling companion. He manages to scrape up enough to buy two vials, you buy eight and they give you a deal on a potion of Health, giving it to you for the last $80 of your $720. The merchant makes noise about how he provided the last two purchases and he should get that deal, but they just wave him away.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 113):

Mustafa reminds his merchant that he is providing most of the cash that makes his own purchase much cheaper, so he should be happy with what he has. Usual price of $26 for the bolts?

Once the purchase is made, Mustafa will begin the return trip...

After some palaver about how much they could get for them across the river, he'll settle for $28.

The wind favors you on an up river path and you make good time. Let me know if you stop over night and on which side.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 115):

We will stop rarely, always on the Eastern bank (That was the safer bank last time, correct?) and Mustafa will always sleep aboard, and encourage others to do the same.

"You know, guys, if we have to move and you are aboard, we may not even need to way you. But ashore, if we have to leave in a hurry, it would be terrible for you to get left behind!"

Only once do you see someone trying to sneak up on you... you easily shove off as a bunch of desert raider gallop up and make a lot of noise waving swords and shields...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 117):

Does Mustafa recognize any legitimacy to the raiders, or are they just basically bandits? How big are the groups?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 118):

Just bandits, about 12 you'd guess.

The wind stays true and you make fine time up river, and can even use the sail up the Zornath river. You make the return trip in a remarkable 4 days. Even as you dock the merchants start showing up, as does your boss and a bunch of sailors who are trying to assess how dangerous it was.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 119):

Are they armed with bows or ranged weapons? If not, Mustafa would actually be interested in dealing with them, at least initially by lowering the sail and using missile fire to try to take some of them down.

A couple appear to have bows, but they are waving them around, not shooting at you. It is still dark out... likely close to dawn though.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 121):

I direct the soldiers with me to target the riders with bows. Mounted, they will be much less stable than we will be without the sail on a river...we will be about 15 to 20 yards out, having just left the bank. Loading up a heavy sling stone, he will take time to aim at the torso, before releasing the shot.

The sudden arrival of bolts and sling stones brings the display to an immediate stop and they disappear into the darkness like magic.
You scored no hits that you could see, but they were most aware that they were shot at...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 123):

"That worked, at least. Lets be on our guard and stay away from the banks...shifts 24/7, lets hoist the sail again and stick to the middle."

Edit: Did night vision 4 help see what was going on?
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Yes, one of the reasons you could see what they carried and were doing as well as you did.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 125):

We will continue on, only stopping ashore during the daylight for food, and sleeping at night on the river in shifts.

"The wind stays true and you make fine time up river, and can even use the sail up the Zornath river. You make the return trip in a remarkable 4 days. Even as you dock the merchants start showing up, as does your boss and a bunch of sailors who are trying to assess how dangerous it was."

as posted earlier...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 127):

Mustafa will let the merchant ply his trade and sell his goods, and take visitors. He will explain the constant number of raiders, perhaps with some, but not much, exaggeration, and making it clear that the extra soldiers ensured that troublesome raiders kept their distances. He also inquired about the demand for potions of healing, and waited to get paid as the merchant sold their wares.

The Merchant wants a cut off the $150 you get for each potion, as his service fee... he wants $15.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 129):

Ok, so can we summarize what we get?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 130):

We can, but do note that he saved some $20 per potion on the two he bought because of you and is now trying to charge you $15 on each of those eight potions for selling them ... no Hug, No Kiss.

Your Gross in take would be $560 + some $920 for the potion of Healing.  Less anything you agree to give the merchant journeyman you brought along.

Your boss wants to know if you'll make another trip as soon as possible, before the other boatmen decide to try it. The profits are a big help to his business.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 131):

I have noticed the profit the merchant is making...he has taken enough, no extra bonus for him!

I am willing to make another trip, as long as the profits remain high, since there is more risk than usual. The extra troops proved wise, and could easily have been needed, so they must be covered by any deal. So my gross cash is $1480, are there any bolts or such weapons that are in demand there I could purchase for the run myself?

No, The Duke's army suppliers have cleaned the town out of bolts (Quarrels).

The Merchant squeals like a stuck pig and acts like you are stealing him blind. Your Boatman and the soldiers stand up beside you ... An' ya brought to little food, so we had a feed ya too ... shad up an be happy!

Your Boss points at the Man An' he don't go wi' us on the next trip either.

Suddenly all is quiet   the Merchant Journeyman replies My apologies, I had forgotten that kindness, Please do allow me to continue on with you.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 133):

"Yeah, it seems as if he has helped himself enough. Everyone else, though, put in a good effort, and is welcome to join us for the next trip, for the same pay. If they have any cash of their own to invest in potions of healing, we can help them with that too...Sir, do we have anyone else interested in paying us well to brave all the dangers on the shores to get the good there? At least twice we were set upon and had to thank our soldier friends for their protection."

He plays up the danger a bit to discourage competition, and has the crew do similar. It make them all look braver, if nothing else!

The banter has the other boatmen talking, several heads are wagging "no", so you have sowed some doubts.

Several merchants step forward and the merchants who had subscribed for the first trip also want back in.  You could actually use another boat!  There is some banter about costs, but you get an agreed upon 32 SP each way from the merchants and a different Merchant Journeyman; the first merchant Journeyman is quite put out that he has been bumped (you have a minor enemy) although none of the merchants support him except his master, who has a reputation for being a bit greedy.

You leave in the morning. Your boss would like the second boat to tag along behind you under your orders ... do you want that extra boat?
It adds 3 people to the costs and is about half full.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 135):

I would only want an extra boat if they also had a pair of crossbowmen. We will of course support them, but an extra boat would attract extra raiders and therefore need extra defence. I will let my boss make the economic decision...

It's not worth it for the little bit of extra it takes. Just take your boat in the morning.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 137):

Very well. Loading up with supplies and goods, Mustafa will get ready to head off in the morning.

The New Merchant's assistant is much quieter, brings plenty of food and shares it. He talks with you to learn more about where you are headed and what to look out for.  The river is flowing well, although the wind is mostly in your face.

On the second day you see signs of men on the shore, but think them loyal to the Duke.  They wave but make no effort to stop you.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 139):

Seeing the chance to find out more of what is ahead from good men, Mustafa will pull over near the men to ask about what they know of the situation.

They don't know a lot. They had pushed south to force back the rebels, causing the rebels to retreat and call for reinforcements, then the Duke had them pull back behind the river while he maneuvered on the rebel Army.  Anything past the Chisa River is likely rebels.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 141):

Mustafa thanks them, and informs them of the situation of the city holding out where they are headed.

Let them know the Duke is working to get these traitors out of Catheran, may take a bit, but we'll get it done.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 143):

Mustafa promises to do so. Can he take any extra supplies?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 144):

What extra supplies? These folks have none to share... are you going to pull to shore and sell some?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 145):

Sorry, I was thinking of taking extra supplies from Zornath if there was room when we left. But we will continue down the river regardless.

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 146):

You were loaded to the maximum safe level when you left ... You have about 8 inches /20 cm of freeboard.

Did you bring anything to sell? Things like hard woods, furs, local cheeses are all salable. Also can find a few set's of medium leathers for a good price ( just over 12 Sp each if you buy all 14 sets left for 170 Sp).

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 147):

Yeah he would. All sets of leather armours sound good. 170 sp = $??

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 148):

About $1700 , works out to $120 and change per set. Normal is $210 to $235. Each set is Torso, Groin, legs and arms. Each set is adjustable with straps and buckles.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 149):

Noting he only had $1579.7, but that he still had the potion of health, he inquires about how much he could get for the latter? Or he may find investors...

The potion of health netted $920 in msg 131

The new journeyman will make up the difference, assuming you know what you are doing.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 151):

I am a bit confused. He had 8 potions of healing and a potion of health...so $1080 from potions of healing ($150-$15 = $135 x 8 = $1080) plus $920 total, correct? In that case I missed the extra $1080 for the potions of healing and need to add that in, so I have plenty to cover it. Is that all correct?

Yes, I subtracted the cost to show the profit made. I get 1200 even for the Healing potions + the health potion at 920, so yes, you can do the whole purchase yourself.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 153):

Ah, that extra $1200 I had not factored in makes a difference. In that case I will get some hardwoods as well. Boat will be very full, I expect!

Quite, I am sure... and now you are headed down river...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 155):

No problem. Did I get any hardwoods before I left? If so, how much did they cost?

Will have the usual routine of sleeping aboard, so no time ashore except for lunch breaks to cook food, with guards all the time.

Yes, you got assorted Hardwoods. Planks and Beams. How much did you spend?
 figure something like 1 Stag/Sp per 20 feet of 1x12 or 6x6 board

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 157):

As much as he can carry. Hardwoods are used for siege engines and fortifications, so he will specifically target the best hardwoods for such. He has up to $1079.7 to spend on it...minus supplies. How much will he need to spend on supplies for the trip there and back?

 $19 would cover down and back ... I doubt you can get anything like a thousand boards on the boat... a hundred would be a large load on top of the grains and furs... so you have a lot of loose cash. Or you could bank it.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 159):

Trusting banks in wartime is much less than ideal...better to carry cash for now.

Mustafa will make the purchases and back for another trip. As mentioned, will have the usual routine of sleeping aboard, so no time ashore except for lunch breaks to cook food, with guards all the time.

It takes 4 days to arrive this time, the same flags fly and the same guy is yelling for you to dock at his jetty.

What are your actions?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 161):

We will check with the merchant with us where he wants to dock...and dock there.

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 162):

He has never been here and is relying on you,

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 163):

Right. In that case I will go to the dock where the guy is shouting to give him a go...

As you pull along side several men grab your ropes and tie you up to the jetty, the Guy shows up looks at your stuff and say OK, wharf fee is one florin and we get 5% of all you sell, my merchants, and he waves to a small mob walking up the quay toward you, give you best price you gonna get here.
You note that the men who tied up your lines are all armed with knives and cutlasses  and seem a bit tough looking.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 165):

"Ah, I see. Thanks for your offer, but I prefer the deals the other wharves gave me. Push off."

He instructs the soldiers to get their bows ready, in case these guys get any funny ideas, and has the seamen retract their ropes. He himself readies his sling...
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The men at the Bollards draw their cutlasses and threaten anyone who attempts to undo the ropes, either at the bollard or at the boat.  The Yelling guy smiles, Oh no Captain, you do not back out now.

There are 3 line handlers with cutlasses (now drawn) and the guy/ leader who has produced a fancy long knife ... his teeth glint with gold fillings.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 167):

"Yeah I do. You have to inform people and let them make a choice, or else it is brigandry, and we do not take to brigands. Men, target them...prepare to push off by force, lethal if necessary. Sailors, stay out of range of the blades. We will drop them from a distance if they insist."

He readies his sling and shield, taking aim at the leaders head. (Skull).
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There is a crowd headed your way... some may indeed be merchants, but some most definitely are not!

Do Not let them leave, this load is mine... the leader says.
The two men at the ends move to jump aboard to prevent your sailors from untying from the boat's bollards.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 169):

Mustafa unleashes.


"Let fly lads. Lets deal with these thieves...and push off."

The "Guy" takes a nasty whack to his face, the pellet smashes into his pretty smile  taking out teeth and more, he stagers back and doubles over with blood and teeth being spit up as he gags on the pellet in his throat.

The Forward soldier fires at the man attempting to board, planting the quarrel firmly in his torso for 4 points of impaling ... the man staggers slightly and drops the cutlass on the quay, holding his chest.

There is a strange sound in the rear and out of the corner of your eye you see the quarrel thrown out of the crossbow at an angle ... it lands in the bottom of the boat. The Man on the dock laughs as he jumps aboard raising his cutlass, the sailor near the soldier swings an oar, which the cutthroat can't dodge or parry, it's not a huge blow, doing 4 points of crushing, but it allows the soldier to drop the broken crossbow and draw a sword.

The Third thug tries to see where to attack ... he looks between you in the boat's middle and the sailor who jumps to the dock, pushes the wounded man out of the way and unties the rope, before jumping back aboard, and pushing the bow away from the dock with his inertia. The third thug moves toward the sailor at the bow, after a second of so pause, arriving to look at 6 feet of water between the dock and the boat.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 171):

Just to be clear, the boat has moved back out, away from the pier, and only one guy has come aboard?
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In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 172):

No, The bow is loose, the stern is still tied to the dock, and you can't get to the rope to untie or cut it.

Sailor up front is using the oar to push well clear of the dock
Soldier is cocking his crossbow.
Merchant is in a tizzy.
Sailor aft swacked the Thug last turn and is swinging the oar back for seconds next turn.
Soldier has his sword drawn and his buckler up, Both antagonists swing and miss each other.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 173):

Mustafa will load his sling as he asks the apprentice to move to the stern and cut the rope. He will direct the soldier to help clear the stern when he is loaded again. He plans to fire at any that try to stop the apprentice.

The apprentice moves back quickly but then becomes very cautious with an armed man standing over the rope.

The Sailor swings the Oar ... and hits the thug in the left kidney (rolled groin, that's about as close as he could get) and the thug fights to stay upright against the pain.
The Thug's swing still manages to contact the soldier who fails to block it, as the bending over throws the swing off, the soldier takes a hit to the right foot!  His return swing misses completely.  Soldier takes 4 points to right foot (after DR).
The sailor pulls the oar back and attempts to push the thug off the side with a good shove ... the thug tries to dodge, fails and teeters as he tries to recover his balance, he drops his cutlass and attempts to grab something, but fails and falls over board. The apprentice jumps over and undoes the rope at the boats bollard.
The sailor in back starts using the oar like a paddle to increase the distance from the dock, which quickly grows by several feet ... one thug from the follow up group does try to jump aboard, but comes up about two feet short, he has one hand on the Gunwale, The Thug in the rear also grabs the side, but the apprentice grabs the cutlass and uses the back of the blade to hit that hand for 5 points CR damage.

The Soldier manages to tell him to use the sharp edge next time...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 175):

"Keep that crossbow ready in case we need it. You, with the sore foot and the sword, get vengeance on that guy in the water, and keep him off our boat. Sailors, take us out."

He moves his sling to his left hand and draws his knife, moving over to the guy holding the gunnels furthest from the soldier with the sword (presumably the one that tried to jump). Are both in the water on the same side of the boat?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 176):

One is just off the port side stern, the other is starboard beam ... he sees you coming and lets go to swim back to the quay ... he's inclined to keep his fingers.

The soldier adjust himself so that he can hit anywhere the thug can reach... the thug curses and swims for the quay as well. The Apprentice sailor has a cheap Cutlass now.  You manage to get moving back out into the harbor center.

The Crossbow in back had it's cord/string/whatever it is snap at the bow loop.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 177):

Mustafa will see them both back to the wharf before changing anything.

"That was close. Good job, everyone. Jimmy Bean, or should I call you Mr Bean, you will need to get that string fixed...but first we will need to get that injury looked at. For now, lets head to one of the other merchants we visited last time. Beetoo can stay on guard with his crossbow for now."

He will try to get some first aid to help deal with the wound...

[OOC: I took liberties with the unnamed guards names for now. B1 and B2 for short...]
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The Guard has to have his boot cut off, which is no big deal, as it is ruined anyway. The First Aid stops the bleeding and gets him so he can hobble a little, although he needs to sit or lie back with his foot up most of the time.

As you approach the wooden dock, you recognize the merchant on the end ...and he points to all the thugs streaming around toward where you are landing ...  as you pull alongside he steps aboard Pull away, they come for you, pull and head out of the harbor, I'll show you a safer place to dock. I told you last time to avoid that quay, you are lucky to get away.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 179):

"Yeah. Thanks for the tip. Should we wait just off the end to thin out their number a bit before we go too far? Just in case they do not get the idea..."

Mustafa takes his own crossbow and offers it as a loan to the soldier for now. He could have done much worse...the boot should have absorbed half the damage, for which he was indeed lucky, and he could fire a crossbow sitting down just fine.

"Just don't break the strings on this one, please..."

I think you wiser to leave and not stir the hornets nest any more.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 181):

"Do you think they can be trusted not to turn against the city if a fight is brought to the city walls?"

There is some concern, but they are watched closely I am told and no contact from outside is allowed.  They are a big problem... but they have no use for Nobles, so that is a plus. Turn downstream after we leave the harbor and go around the bend, shortly afterwards, we will turn up and fight the stream to get into a smaller harbor... other merchants will be there.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 183):

"I see. We might be glad to help those who want help to deal with that then. Speak soon..."

He pushes back out watching the crowd carefully, and instructing the soldiers, now both once again armed with crossbows, to keep aim and target any seen with ranged weapons.

Meanwhile, he has the sailors push out and back around the bend as instructed.

This is the large boat you took over, well loaded down, so she is steady, but any sort of heel/ list, cause by wind or weight, is a grave concern. Regardless the oars allow you to get out of the main current, although it is a struggle to row upstream, the sail is deployed, well reefed, and allows better progress without much heeling at all.  You soon steer into a small tributary's outlet to the river and find a dock with carts and wagons beside it. The merchant points for you to tie up there and soon you are deeply involved in selling your cargo.

Mustafa will try his hand at selling goods, but does not appear to do so well, so he will let the merchant journeyman take over this area; it is his expertise.

Sale price for wood and leather armour, offering the merchant journeyman 25% of the profits?


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Mustafa is getting browbeat a little by an older merchant, so he refuses to sell and passes to job to the merchant Journeymen, who feels 25% is taking advantage of you ad will sell it for 10%. He gets the same hard nosed buyer, but smiles and points out that his offer is unrealistically low. A couple of others try to elbow in, but the canny old merchant elbows them out of the way and buys all the hard woods for 30% over cost.
The other goods sell well too and by evening you are empty, but wealthier.

At your friendly merchants suggestion you undock and move out into the stream some 300 feet from the dock, where you anchor, posting watch.
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In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 187):

Mustafa thanks the journeyman for his assistance. Before departing he makes sure to buy a few extra crossbow strings just in case.

Setting a watch for the night he discusses with the merchant about what to take back, and checks on the injured soldier while they share food.
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The night is quiet  and come morning you head across the river to the Arab city of Dirgon. There he locates some of the same merchants as before.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 189):

Mustafa will ask about the potions again, and what other items they might have...such as love or Truth potions, as well as Healing and Health and even healing Herbs. And crossbow strings...

You get the Crossbow restrung and a spare string, some resin to keep it dry and some oil for the wood for 10 CP.

Most of the potions/pastes, pasties and what not are available. IF you buy in quantity (say 10+ items) your cost is 65% of list.
Whicker things are available too, shields, chairs, baskets and chests, all well made to your eye.

Food items are also available, oil from some small green fruit, preserved lemons, dried goat and sheep meats, salty crumbly cheeses, and some unusual grains. Spices of all sorts are available, your only concern being how well the locals in Zornath might accept them. The seller seems to understand and pushes a sweet warm tree bark item (Cinnamon sugar), nutmeg, cloves, allspice, black pepper etc., they enquire if you have any salt for sale (Rock Salt is common and available in and around Zornath).

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 191):

Potions in bulk seem to be the order of the day, then. How much for 10 Healing, and do they come with a potion of health like last time? We will seek the same seller that gave us that deal. In additon we ill ask the journeyman merchant if he would lie to go in with us for say, 10 potions of health. We will also ask him any other items that might collect a good profit.

The dealer smiles and shakes his head 'No'...I can't afford to give the potion away so freely, but I will make better deals with you as you buy more.

The Merchant Journeymen smiles, It's a great deal, but perhaps too concentrated, You brought quite a few back last time, so I suggest many fewer this time and perhaps some other potions and some spices. The wicker we can buy with the odd amounts left over, as I expect it will sell well too.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 193):

"I see. Purchasing ten is a good bargain, though, and with a war on, I am not sure there will ever be enough healing potions. It will be nearly a month since we sold the last lot before we return, will it not? I was thinking of 10 potions of Healing and 10 potions of battle. That would come to $3,055, would it not? Or could you provide a better discount on 20 potions? Of course, we could also afford potions of Fear, Sleep, Strength or Horsemanship,but how would they sell?"

The last four need a specific need, so no more than one of each.  I grant the healing potions will sell, but not as well, as the army was moving away from us, so I'd suggest maybe 5 or 6 of those. The Health Potion is expensive but always sells.  The universal antidote is expensive but one will be needed sooner or later. Pain Resistance may be good for those soon to see the surgeon. Beast speech might be useful to some, as they seek to understand an animals illness or injury.  Love potions sell as does gambling, although it is best not to be known as he seller of the last one. And by all means save some money for Spices, as they will sell well.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 195):

"Understand. But since I get 65% off if I buy 10, I pay about the same price for 6 healing potions as ten. Clearly the latter is a much better deal. Hence, the Fear, Sleep, Strength or Horsemanship potions are out. Whilst the suggestions are all useful, they are individual potions, and the real profit is in buying at least 10 to take advantage of the 35% discount. Hence I will go for 10 Healing and 10 Battle potions, which should cost $3,055 and leave $365.7 for spices.

The rest can be spent on spices, of course. Why do you say the universal antidote will be needed sooner or later?"

The Arab waves his hands No,No ... you buy 10 anything, I give Merchant discount, you not just buyer. You buy from me before, buy again, so we work good?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 197):

Mustafa will practice his Arabic with him, switching back to Common if needed.

"Ah, that makes it easier then! Indeed we do work well together. 6 Healing potions, 1 Strength, 1 fetching and carrying, 2 Health, 1 Fire Resistance, a love potion and a Universal Antidote. Thirteen potions that should come to $2,970.5, leaving me with $460.2 to spend on spices and wicker items. Perhaps a wicker box to carry them all in..."

Your Arabic obviously surprises the man ...  Suddenly you are one of them!
He replies in Arabic SO! One of God's chosen ... no wonder we work well together.  Call it $2900, spices are good for health!

The Merchant and any crew close enough to hear you look at you as if you just developed wide purple stripes and horns.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 199):

"Fair enough. All men are equal under God so why should we not talk as such? $2900 it is then, and $539.70 we can spend on spices and wicker, and enough food to get back, of course!"

After concluding business and getting back to the ship, he will ask the merchant how he can conduct business without getting ripped off without learning their language.

The merchant says... in the end, you see what you are going to get and how much you must pay, if it is out of norms, you refuse to buy.  They don't mug merchants as then they don't come back.



So what sorts of spices are you looking to buy?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 201):

"Well, that is one way of doing business. Work a little harder at it, though, and they look after you a bit more. Much better for business that way. What sort of spices do you recommend will sell best? Basically looking for overall profit...we have a nearly empty boat! Perhaps a carpentry kit, sail makers kit and first aid kit might work well, too. And group basics of our own..."

Cinnamon sells well, nutmeg too. Pepper is popular, but many of the others are less well known. I know of a baker who used Cardamom in his pastries and found that they sold much better with it; allspice in small quantities is also of interest to bakers. And Ginger!... it is a tuber, but can be used in baking or cooking to good effect.


Spices are sold in small jars-
Cinnamon is 5 CP each jar
Nutmeg is 10 nuts for 5 CP
Pepper is 6 CP per jar.
Cardamom is 1 SP per jar
Allspice is the same
Ginger is 7CP per cup (in this case, the cup is filled with water and an amount of ginger that balances the cup is 7 CP)

The whicker items are generally inexpensive, so a 3'x2' but 30" deep chest is 18CP, a small chair is 15 and a large comfortable chair is 1SP & 5 CP.
Cases (like small modern suit cases) are 12-15 CP depending on size.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 203):

"Fair enough. In that case I will go for the following:

Cinnamon x 10  $50
Nutmeg x 10    $50
Pepper x 15    $90
Cardamom x 4   $80
Allspice x 4   $80
Ginger x 5     $35

4 Wicker comfortable chairs  $100
2 Wicker Chests               $36

2 lots of Bandages should also be cheap here...that would bring the total price to $541. Would you accept what I have left, $539.7?"

They absolutely take the deal.

You head down to the water, load you boat (quite lightly) and head up river. She again feels lively and dances across the water in front of the wind, making very good speed.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 205):

Mustafa offers one of the healing potions to the injured guard, though the new bowstring should come out of his salary, since he should have been maintaining his gear better.

Total gear

Cinnamon x 10
Nutmeg x 10
Pepper x 15
Cardamom x 4
Allspice x 4
Ginger x 5
4 Wicker comfortable chairs
2 Wicker Chests
2 lots of Bandages
5 Healing potions,
1 Strength,
1 fetching and carrying,
2 Health,
1 Fire Resistance,
1 love potion
1 Universal Antidote

Heading upriver Mustafa is careful to keep moving, using shifts to sail day and night, and only stopping ashore to cook and eat something.

Actually the Soldier didn't do anything wrong... stuff just breaks on an 18.
We'll consider him healed and with a new set of boots.

The Boat is really moving with a very light load and a good wind.
You do see a few soldiers on the west shore who shoot a few quarrels at you, but all of them splash in short.
They seem to be looking over their shoulder quite often.

Other than that, the trip is done in 4 days, the slowest part being the southwest run up the Zornath river.
All potions and such sell at full price; Spices also sell well except for the ginger which has a few small tubers remaining.

Sells for-
Cinnamon x 10  $75
Nutmeg x 10    $80
Pepper x 15    $130
Cardamom x 4   $100
Allspice x 4   $110
Ginger x 5     $48

4 Wicker comfortable chairs  $135
2 Wicker Chests               $48

Note that each item didn't always bring the same price, there was some bargaining going on.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 207):

How much chance did he have to engage the soldiers? How many were there, and what were the ranges?

No chance with out turning toward them... assumed you weren't that interested. there were 4 to 6 and the range was long ... say 300+ feet.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 209):

Just 4 to 6? Scouts or a patrol. That actually does sound a bit interesting. Get folk to take cover and approach to 200 ft, aiming crossbows... what do they do?

Take cover behind the hill / rise and shoot at you (steersman, no?) and anyone who looks even slightly exposed. 4 quarrels are fired, two are not close, one hits one of your boatmen  in the right arm, the other hits the soldier in the back in the torso, doing 3 impaling damage after DR for -6 HP.

The crossbowman in front fires wildly, the one in back barely misses. You are steering.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 211):

Hang on, if I told them to take cover, we have gunwales (empty boat, remember) to hide behind, how the hell did one get hit in the back of the torso? These guys should be less than 10% exposed at this point since this boat has no deck. In the arm at 200 yard is little short of a miracle as well, and if they are retreating behind a hill, then they are much further...

Think I am missing a lot of crucial information here...what is happening in my minds eye and what you are describing are very different.

How much cover do we have? Low Tech describes the vessel as being open. A range of 200 yards is a -12 range penalty and if they are retreating further, I am not following. (The point of approaching was to see their reaction, as posted)

If they are rolling crits, at least let me see the roll so I can know it was a freak shot and I am not missing some very significant detail. Pretty sure my character would recognize such freakishly accurate shooting.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:07, Sun 22 Sept 2019.

LOL... It didn't, no boomerangs in play. The soldier in back (Rear) of the boat was hit when he rose to shoot accurately.
The rise adds maybe 10 yards if that ... and the ballistic arc will let things get behind the gunnels.

They had two bad rolls and too very good rolls. More importantly, I didn't use a -12 for whatever reason.... so only the soldier is hit in the torso due to a Crit (5) rolled. The other fellow does not get hit in the arm.

None of them get hit.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 213):

Ah Ok so one was a freakishly good shot. We will withdraw and treat the injured man, and I will reprimand him for not taking cover as directed as I give him some first aid, as we continue down the river. He should not have needed to stand up but rather could have used the gunwales to brace his weapon.

5 is still only a crit with sufficiently high skill...Mustafa First aid roll is not spectacular, and he may need someone else's help.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:15, Sun 22 Sept 2019.

Your first aid didn't help  ...  He is seriously injured... down half his HP anyway.

You continue up river for two and half more days, before arriving in Zornath.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 215):

Did anyone else's first aid help? We will use a potion of Healing after regardless...

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 216):

Sure, someone just rolled a 6 at First Aid...  you can pick whom.
For whatever reason the Healing potion seems to only help a little.
The Soldier is now at -4 HP.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 217):

The other soldiers assistance was more helpful, possibly even more helpful that the potion, but the two combined to help the man out a lot. Allowing him to rest on the way home would have allowed further improvement, and when they get there, he is allowed to stay on the boat as the journeyman merchant is able to seek buyers of their wares.

(-4 from his original HP, or at -4 HP? He had no armour?)

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 218):

It went through his armor... he is currently at -4 HP

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 219):

So, Vitals hit? Or should I roll diagnostics for that?

No, I did that roll...   let's go to Zornath and sell stuff, make future plans.

The boat crews take note of the wounded soldier, it seems to deter many from going south just yet. But your boss relay's the news about the Duke and guess's that the trade routes will be opened before you can return to Nardath.  On the other hand he is quite pleased with what you have brought back from Dirgon.  He is wondering what things might have value in Chisa and Nardath in the next weeks.  He is also curious about the ports on the coast on the Sea ... Freemarket and Soldis, but is concerned they may still be held by rebels.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 221):

Right. A lot of stuff to sell.

Previously mentioned:
Cinnamon x 10  $75
Nutmeg x 10    $80
Pepper x 15    $130
Cardamom x 4   $100
Allspice x 4   $110
Ginger x 5     $48

4 Wicker comfortable chairs  $135
2 Wicker Chests               $48

Plus
4 Healing potions, (2 used...)
1 Strength,
1 fetching and carrying,
2 Health,
1 Fire Resistance,
1 love potion
1 Universal Antidote

Also noted that I seem to have found a boatwright.

Mustafa will ask about how the war is going, mentioning the soldiers he saw, and asking if the Duke needed assistance. He will of course also inquire about other trade items.

I assume the wages were factored into the merchant and the goods he purchased, as well as the owners share. After all, it was they who made the agreement...

From msg 207 ...

Sells for-
Cinnamon x 10  $75
Nutmeg x 10    $80
Pepper x 15    $130
Cardamom x 4   $100
Allspice x 4   $110
Ginger x 5     $48

4 Wicker comfortable chairs  $135
2 Wicker Chests               $48

Note that each item didn't always bring the same price, there was some bargaining going on.


So Far, it sounds like the Duke is winning, but the common folks down south have paid dearly for this.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 223):

Got those items. What about the potions sold?

Plus
4 Healing potions, (2 used...)
1 Strength,
1 fetching and carrying,
2 Health,
1 Fire Resistance,
1 love potion
1 Universal Antidote

If the Duke is winning, is there any news of where he needs help?

Also, news of a shipwright (see rolls above)?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 224):

All potions and such sell at full price;   that was from back there as well...

TheDuke's immediate needs are not known, but he is closing on Catheron, the City, and they have been blockaded for some time, so foods, and perishables are likely in demand. Healing and health related things as well. Zornath has plenty of grain, some preserved meats, furs and some forest products. You could also choose not to sell all your healing supplies here.

You note a boat operated by several foreign looking men, one is obviously talking or trying to sell a small boat in their deck, which is getting some laughter and head shakes from the boatmen he has standing around him. The boat has no visible wood on the sides, which seem smooth and tarred black.  The man talking is of medium height and his form of dress is quite odd to your eye.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 225):

Just a little IOC: how much does he get for all the potions? Is, total cash?

Second matter is the boat. Load capacity and details, such as cover for occupants?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 226):

If you sell them all here, you get $4680 or 234 silver stags or 20 Sovereigns, 30 Stags and 80 Coppers ;  You'd likely get several Gold Sovereigns so you can mix or match coin as you want.


The Boat is about a fathom and a half long and about ⅔ fathom wide (about twice as long as it is wide). It has woven branches between wood formers with tarred skins stretched over it.  It may weigh 42 pounds/19 kilos. It's protection is quite limited compared to wood planking. Perhaps DR 2 in game terms.
You'd guess this little boat could hold over 200 pounds, by guessing on volume and amount of water displaced. It is obviously meant for easy carry on a larger boat and use for errands and shallow water needs ... fully loaded it should draw about two spans.
See Background for more information on measurements.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 227):

Interesting...total cost?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 228):

They are asking 13 silver and pointing out the many god points (low weight, good carrying capacity etc.) , the boat men are doubtful of it's sturdiness.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 229):

Can we try it?

There is a moment of silence... then the old man says, with me in boat, yes.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 231):

"2 persons will fit? Ok then, lets try it..."

He will proceed to do so.

You try it, it floats very high and is a bit tippy. But even with two of you in it, it has plenty of freeboard and rows easily around the harbor. The issue is moving  in the boat while on the water and  entry / exit are the only touchy points, as it has no keel and rounded sides. It is quite easy to tip over.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 233):

How robust does it appear to be compared with normal boats?

Not as robust (won't take sharp objects or serious smashing as well, but is more resistant to bumping around (like several boats tied up together and beating on each other) due to some flex in the hull. Obvious comparison is 3 cm planks vice 2 cm woven cane and a layer of tarred hide.  There is more give in the hide boat, but less ultimate strength, although that give may well allow it to survive a storm better as it gives a little vice the wood that does not (Oak tree vice the reed in a hurricane).

There is no single absolute answer.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 235):

Mustafa is not so sure. He thanks them for the demonstration, and mentions that he will have to consider it. He then looks around for larger ships available...

What's around is wood construction ... several long boats (rather like your first boat), and a vessel something like the one you have been sailing, but a known poor sailer and in rough shape.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 237):

What would be the price and cargo capacity of those available? And my own to compare...

You original Boat carried a bout a ton, was oar powered with an optional sail to assist. It cost about $2500

Your new command is a (Simple) Square Rigged sailer, which has oars as an optional power source. It carries around 4 tons and cost better than $12000

What's available is a couple of Faerings, like the original ... load is roughly a ton and cost to you for a used boat is $1500-$2000 depending on size, condition and your buying skills.

The one large boat is smaller than your current command and can carry about 3-3.5 tons. It has issues as mentioned and the owners are asking $9000. That is undoubtedly more than it's worth, but they surely need to start the bidding high.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 239):

Can the issues with the larger boat be fixed? If so, how much would it cost to do so?

It's a bad design ... they tried to make a smaller cheaper Square rigged boat by just reducing everything by 20% ... they made no allowance for how that worked out, so the ribs are very close together eating up payload, the planks are thinner and narrower for no reason and the shipbuilder couldn't keep to the hull design, so it is out of balance in several ways.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 241):

The Faerings sound good...stats for a good one as in Low Tech?

Yes, basically; this is what your first boat was...  You no longer are interested in the large skin boat?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 243):

The large skin boat? I didn't think there was one, except for the small skin rowboat. Which one was the large one?

NO, you were looking for someone to BUILD one...  you have just met the man who has the knowledge to do so.
He's trying to build interest and brought a small demonstrator...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 245):

Ah, I missed that. In that case I will talk to him about building a much larger vessel, one that could have sails, and utilizes a wooden frame instead of a wicker one.

You instantly have his attention, since such a vessel would be a great advertisement , especially if it proves a good merchantman.  You'll need to make a merchant roll.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 247):

Mustafa rolled 2 under his skill. We keep talking about cost and capabilities.

He's rather excited and offers to try and make the vessel for $1300, although that depends on him getting good prices from suppliers. The wooden ribs will be about a half pace apart (figure 18" or 45-46 Cm) with woven whicker between the ribs to support the skins. It will have a solid wood floor and stern to handle the rudder, but no center board, rather you'll have to use side boards to keep you from being pushed to windward.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 249):

That sounds great. What will the cargo capacity be? Also, can we use wood between the ribs instead of wicker?

Final point: can we add some defences for archers aboard? High freeboards or large shields on the sides??

With wicker, it can carry about 4.5 tons (estimated) and using ½ inch (12 mm) pine planks on the side will reduce that to about 4 tons and increase the cost by about $350.
Shields that can be moved around would be easiest, cheapest and most efficient. Figure $40-50 per shield, cheaper if leather over wicker.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 251):

Would wood improve the strength (ie HP of the vessel in game mechanics)? How much for Wicker shields and what cover DR would they offer?

The wood is slightly stronger, but has little give, the wicker will give some if hit and not crack as easily ...  so the DR is different.
Wicker will absorb the first point of DR ... then both have a DR of about 2.

For shields, the wicker is lighter and at least as resistant to arrows, rocks, pellets or quarrels because of its slight give again. If cross plied Horse hair is also glued over it, it will stop all arrows and light projectiles. with a DR of 2+5, against a swung blow (sword, axe) it will still give a DR of 5 but will only take about 15 points of damage

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 253):

Ok then wicker sounds fine. What would be total cost with at least 16 large shields (8 per side) that can be positioned to protect the helm and other defenders on each side?

A large shield (say 42" diameter) would be about $25 with just a leather overlay, to glue 6 layers of horse hair set at 60º to the one beneath over the leather and with a second layer of leather over the horse hair would be $35. Leather over wicker is DR 3 versus impaling or Crushing  and DR 2 versus cutting.
The layered Shield is Dr 7 versus impaling, Dr 5 versus crushing and Dr 3 versus cutting.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 255):

Lets go with 16 layered large shields with mounts on the side for easy moving or placement. What would be the total cost of the vessel and carrying capacity? Well I suppose I should just ask the total vessel stats...

Well ... we are looking at at least $2200 and it could creep higher.
I estimate it will carry 4 tons but we won't know for sure until it's built.

The shields are a minor part of it and can be done when the boat is done.


I'll let you roll for the builders skill/success which will dictate much of what you want to know... his skill is 13.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 257):

Roll is 6...he is having a good day!

Mustafa will pay him $2200...

Indeed he is!   Things go smoothly and he comes in way under cost, even with the shields, it comes to a mere $1450. It is 40' stem to stern and should hold just under 4 tons of cargo with plenty of freeboard.  The side boards seem to work smoothly and well and it sails very well in light condition.  It is easy enough to move /maneuver with oars or pole, again in light condition, but even with a load aboard, it should handle well.  Your boss and two boat masters are now ready trying to talk to him.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 259):

Very cool! Ready to take her for a run. Same crew...now work...

Very well, drum up what cargo you want ... be aware that the Duke's action have broken the siege on Nardath. so Chisa and Nardath are again open ports.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 261):

What should I roll to look for cargoes?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 262):

Merchant skill and let me know what sort of things you are looking for.  The area is noted for grains, furs, fruits, hardwoods, some leather (raw or worked) and a few herbs.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 263):

Mustafa will look for all options.

[Private to GM: Merchant 11.
09:09, Today: Mustafa Zephyr rolled 12 using 3d6.  merchant, furs.

09:09, Today: Mustafa Zephyr rolled 17 using 3d6.  merchant, leather.

09:08, Today: Mustafa Zephyr rolled 8 using 3d6.  merchant, fruit.

09:08, Today: Mustafa Zephyr rolled 15 using 3d6.  merchant, nuts.

09:07, Today: Mustafa Zephyr rolled 15 using 3d6.  Merchant, grains.

09:07, Today: Mustafa Zephyr rolled 12 using 3d6.  Merchant, Wood.

So the only decent deal you can make is for fruit... apples and pears mostly although several varieties of each (fruit doesn't keep well, so they want it sold, figure  30% less than what you've seen it sell for down south). How much do you want to buy?
You do find a fellow selling furs that we would call seconds today, they have holes in them or chunks torn off (like legs from a trap).  His prices are much more reasonable (about half of what a good fur will cost), but you aren't sure how well the skins would sell down south.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 265):

This is a new trip, and Mustafa is unsure how fast he can go, so he will look for any consignment's or passengers!

Here, you have the fruit and the furs & skins seconds... you may be able to find other cargo in  Chisa ...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 267):

Right. Any waterborne mercenary work?

Well there does seem to be a bout 12 men who were healing that could now go south to join the army again.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 269):

Which army? Happy to take them to support the Duke...

Oh Definitely the Duke's... the other would have them in chains. You could sail there from Chisa or Nardath as the city is between the two rivers.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 271):

OK. Can they offer anything for the trip?

The city government will offer a Silver for each, you supply he food.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 273):

A silver for each barely covers food! How many days travel is it usually?

Probably 4 to 6 at most.  The city agrees to provide some foodstuffs (2 hams and 2 pecks of dried fruit) plus the silver.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 275):

Cool. Will take crew, but no need for troops this trip. But will cover their food if they want to come in case I find work for them on the next trip. Are the passengers armed?

Passengers have all their gear.  Your hired guards point out that when the soldiers get off, you won't have any guards.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 277):

I accept that, but they are not paying enough to cover the wages, and I lack sufficient excess funds. However, iif the come with me, when I get work I will be glad to employ them again.

They hem and haw, but finally agree to come along.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 279):

So we head off. Passengers are welcome to have weapons out in case they are needed.

So where are you headed?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 281):

Where the soldiers wanted to go. Stopping at any towns on the way to look for trade goods.

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 282):

Well the City said it could be Chisa or Nardath ... they aren't sure exactly where the Duke is...

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 283):

Which is closer? We head for there.

Chisa most likely, although it's well upstream.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 285):

Then to Chisa we head...

It takes about three days to get to the river, but the wind is not so cooperative and it's a struggle to get up stream ... it takes all day of the 4th day.
In Chisa, you are told the Army has moved and is just north of Catheron, the city. Unless the weather/wind changes, that's another two day struggle to put them on the road south.  The Soldiers, who have helped with the rowing and poling, all want to be taken to the road; they will assist the crew in getting there.  They don't have any ability to pay more.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 287):

Are there any others in this city that would like to be taken there? Or cheap supplies?

Yes on both counts... another 5 men and as much as you can carry in supplies... for 14 silver!

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 289):

That sounds like a simple plan then. Take on as much as I can and head off to meet the army!

The money is good, but the trip is difficult and the number of rocks and tree stumps/limbs in the river become a real concern.  You need a full time spotter in the bow with a long pole and great care to prevent the skin being torn ... you have less than a foot of freeboard. This coupled with the number of men needed to force the boat up against the current [middle of the current is the deepest and most clear] makes this a slow arduous trip that takes three days. On arrival , the soldiers thank you and depart, offering no help to unload, but others there are willing to assist and the army quartermaster pays them a small wage to do so. It takes the day to empty your boat, but everything is taken/bought giving you two silver and 25 copper from multiple sources. The fruit is getting bad both due to time and travel damage, but it's all purchased. One of the quartermasters says that it won't matter in a compote and the food value is still there.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 291):

Mustafa is glad to help, and asks if there is anything else they would be willing to pay him to do.

Mustafa is tired and his crew and guards more so. Several times passing sergeants try to force the guards to march to the army ... they are soon aboard and staying there.

You all need to rest and this doesn't seem the place. The quartermasters are willing to take most anything an army could use.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 293):

With that in mind, alongside the difficulties he had coming upstream with a loaded boat, Mustafa will ask about what can be expected if he continues upstream.

At some point you will pass beyond the duke's control ... likely within a mile or three... then who knows ... there are towns further up and river traffic used to be common. But no one knows how safe it is ... if you find out, they'd like to know here.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 295):

Never a time like the present. Mustafa will head to the unknown.

Light Boat? If so, it's a good deal easier to move and you can stay off to the side of the main stream, although you still need a man with a pole in the bow.  You are drawing less than a foot of water right now.    The first day isn't very long, as you started mid morning, you see little but farms, many burned out, with some being rebuilt and others not. A couple still have the remnants of long dead bodies lying about.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 297):

Empty boat = Light boat.

Mustafa will stop and ask what happened, and if he can help.

Yes, but I wasn't sure if you were going to try and take something up stream or not.  So Light/empty it is.

There are multiple places you could stop and help .... but you will move really slowly if you try.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 299):

Nothing to take that I am aware of. Just really stopping to find out what happened, to get some idea of what to expect.

Basically you should already know... The Revolting Nobles (good pun) and their forces ran rampant over the place taking what they wanted and killing those who resisted in any way. They haven't been around in well over 10 days or more. But everyone is very nervous of mounted men or even moderate groups.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 301):

I just wanted to be sure. Scouting further up river, I will want to find out how many there are, and where they have gone.

As you move up the river toward Freehold, you don't see any raiders/rebels for the first two days. On the third day, as you approach the area north of where the Road from Yanna joins the Catheron-Freehold road, you see horsemen in the distance through the trees. I'll stop things there.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 303):

How wide is the river, and how fast flowing? If I understand correctly, we stop paddling and we will be carried back the way we came, right?

Order everyone to take cover (properly this time, behind the shields here for that purpose!) and have crossbows cocked, loaded and ready to fire.

The river is flowing at around 1 foot per second (60 feet a minute) in the main stream, slower in the back waters.
The main stream is about 40 feet wide here ... There is about 20 feet on he inside of the current and maybe 5-8 feet on the outer side.
Which side is which varies as the stream swings back and forth.

The riders are easily two or three bow shots away. You could easily tie up and watch from a distance with no chance of being seen baring someone doing something very stupid or intentional.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 305):

Mustafa will just watch for a bit to see what they are doing, and to calculate their numbers, tying up on the other side but around a bend a bit to stay out of sight.

Looks to be a moderate sized force... you count 46, but may have some duplication or some you missed. They hit a small farmstead  by the river of three houses and a barn ... but quickly determine no one is there and it has been looted before.  They ride off to the west.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 307):

More than we can deal with. We will proceed carefully upriver. Any identifying markings?

From 250-300 Yards? Nothing you can be sure of but their actions didn't seem those of the Duke's men.

You move on carefully, seeing little... the village they just searched seems barren ...IQ roll

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 309):

Mustafa really gets what is going on! Critical success on the IQ roll!

You note that there are recent repairs here, and what looks like fresh tracks to the out house... you doubt the riders made those. Someone still lives here ... and the green sprouts say the farm is trying to keep going.  Looks to be three houses, so obviously some sort of cooperative.  You wonder where they hid so quickly and so well.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 311):

Mustafa smiles as he looks around and makes note of the place for future. For now their secret is their best defense, and he does not want to take that away. He continues up river.

The remainder of the day goes quietly until the setting sun reveals several plumes of smoke rising up stream, these are small like campfires  or Chimneys would make. Given the slight breeze, you suspect chimneys as otherwise the  breeze would have dispersed the smoke more. You'd guess you are no more than a bow shot from whatever is there.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 313):

Mustafa will head for these chimneys, as they would suggest local folk he could trade with or help in event of a raid...

No more than around the next bend you see a walled village with guards. The wall is obviously a hasty affair of brick, stone and timber that is mud covered. You hear the Guard shout something and a bunch of men and boys assemble rapidly, but they don't man the walls and the group moves down to the small dock jutting into the stream. They are all carrying a variety of weapons and it is clear that most are not soldiers and do not seem overtly hostile until the see the soldiers and crossbows, which cause them to quickly disperse and take up a defense. They have a small dingy pulled up into the town a ways and covered with a sod lean-to. The roofs of the buildings are all tile, most unusual on farm buildings where grass thatching is free and easier to put up, as well as warmer.

 One of the men calls out Who are ye and where are ye bound?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 316):

Mustafa is glad to see potentially friendly faces, but is concerned about their allegiance.

"I am a river trader, but with bandits around, we have defences. Do you have goods to sell?"

Few if any, the raiders strip our fields and kill our friends. How far down stream did you start out? will you bring us goods? That assumes you make this trip again.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 318):

"I am headed upstream first. I can bring you goods, but I seek to buy things as well. Do you have anything to offer?"

Don't point the weapons  at aus... and you can come tie up at the dock. We have little to trade, but we'll see, what do you have we can use?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 320):

Mustafa will order all weapons lowered, but instead ot tying to the dock, he will loop the rope over a bollard and tie it back to the boat (a common method used by mariners who wish to stay in control of their lines!). They will do so slowly as he talks, to try to determine their allegiance.

"We sold all the supplies to the Kings army back down river. Who are those that raid you?"
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How far back are they? do they restore order or just steal under a different flag? The rebelling Nobles forces have caused great harm here and not a soul has raised a hand to aid us.  Several nearby villages and farms have been wiped out, we have taken in those who survived. Our fields are burned, they make harvesting anything all but impossible. We have our crops in, but if we can't gather them come harvest time, we are done for. We have little coin, but if you have food we can try to buy, it would be welcome ... hunting is treacherous business as well and we have had little meat.


From what you can tell, he speaks the truth. All look a bit sallow and thin.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 322):

"Those the Nobles rebel against look out for the folk under them, and seem fair and equitable from what I have seen. Do you have any fishermen to catch fish? The army getting rid of the nobles also need supplies. If they attack while we are here, we would be glad to assist, but perhaps we are more useful gathering supplies. Do you know where the Nobles are based?"

We get some fish... hardly enough to dry and sell though.  The Nobles riders generally seem to come from the south, more I don't know.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 324):

"In that case we will continue North to see if there are any villages that fare better well enough to trade or at least spare you some food. We wish you good luck in your defences. Are the Nobles on both sides of the river?"

Honestly, we don't travel far from here because of the risks; you are the first non-hostile group we have seen in many weeks.



OOC - You are going mostly west, not North.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 326):

"I understand. Unfortunately I have no goods to sell, as I have already sold everything and I am now looking for goods to purchase but if there is any other way I can help immediately I am happy to do so otherwise I should be on my way."

We can offer a safe place to rest and what food we have, although you seem well supplied. Past that, we can offer little at this time.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 328):

"Very well. We will rest for the night and continue in the morning."

Mustafa will tie up alongside with plans to do just that. What do our supplies look like?

In reply to Mustafa Zephyr (msg # 329):

You have 6 days worth left, and that's eating heartily... As you discuss things, one of the younger ones point out that they have a lot of knives, swords and shields, horse tack and a few crossbows from those they have killed during raids. They'd be willing to trade that. The older man you have been talking with nods True enough, good thought Lem.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 330):

"The knives, swords shields and crossbows might be valuable in defending yourselves though."

He laughs... We have no shortage ... these would be truly excess, but others might pay for them! Which way do you go?

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 332):

"Further up river for now. How much do you want for them?"

The man shrugs ... food really...  seeds, maybe some farming tools ... If you can find any honest women who will work on a farm ... got more young men than young women.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 334):

"Unusual, typically was works the other way, unless they have been raiding your womenfolk?"

They have and it's ugly, they use and abuse them ... only one has escaped alive and she is marred physically and mentally for life we fear. They killed the others when done with them. Mindless stupidity and harm. We no longer show them any quarter, they are worse than beasts. If you go up river, there may be those who would like these weapons ... anything you can bring back in recompense would be most appreciated.  We need more seeds and young fruit trees if you can find any, that would be most welcome.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 336):

"I will go and see what I can find. Do you want to send someone to watch over them and perhaps to see how your neighbors are?"

The man looks about... hmmm, mayhaps a good idee ... Yuli, Go tomorrow with these boatmen and show them what little w know, bring back all the information and food and seed ye can... trade the weapons if ye can.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 338):

Mustafa will get ready to take the man as agreed, and head upriver.

You spend the night in safety, Come Morning a young man, maybe 18 or 19 helps to load an array of used weapons of all sorts and then goes with you up river. For the morning, he is able to point out rocks, downed trees and the channel where it might be confusing, by mid day he is beyond his knowledge. Regardless, he has been a real light into what has happened here, pointing out numerous destroyed farms and graves. It's sobering to say the least, one of the Farms was where he grew up... his parents and sister are buried there. The rest of the afternoon is slower with out his knowledge, as care must be taken.  Two or three people are seen at a distance, but they run and cannot be coaxed back. Yuli points out that their appearance is good, as they wouldn't be seen if the raiders were about. You find a small island mid afternoon and decide to stop and rest, as a safer camp spot would be hard to find, regardless a watch is necessary.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 340):

Mustafa will thank him for his assistance. Setting up camp, they will fish off the island and set up a two person watch, one on the boat which is tied to a tree on the downstream side of the island, and the other where they can see upstream of the island. They will fish and spend the night Herr, sleeping on the boat.

The night is quiet,  the fishing is poor. You catch one fish of about 4 pounds.

Come morning you continue on ... about mid afternoon you get signs of people ahead and pull off, sneaking up the bank to see who or what ... it is a Rebel raiding party setting up camp. You count 26 horses and numerous men working around 5 fires.  There seem to be  4 hostages tied around a tree, although it is hard to see exactly what they are. Yuli is sure they are women to be raped and killed ... it is all you can do to keep him quiet.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 342):

How possible is it to get safely past them?

Not Possible to sail by unseen, But this is obviously an overnight camp, not a permanent one.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 344):

Right. Not expected that I will stay unseen by 100 eyes at least! But is the river wide enough to bypass them, safely?

Well certainly wide enough and deep enough so they can't get to you, but well within bow range and perhaps thrown things in places.
You are not in view at this point, and only saw them because of motion through the trees and bushes. You are a long bow shot away (foot ball field).
Yuli wants to free the 4 captives, which he is sure are young women ... to the point that he is willing to sneak over on his own to free them ... your view is that that is suicide, and his is that doing nothing ensures their abuse and miserable death.

Right now (late afternoon) they show no signs of having a guard mounted, but do keep looking around casually.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 346):

What would be the chances of sneaking past them to find reinforcements?

Sneaking past depends on how alert the Guards are ... reinforcements may or may not be available and are likely not to close, judging by the effort the riders are putting into guards.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 348):

How many gaurds are there and how much cover would potential attackers have?

As things settle down some, there are three guards, two looking out over the approaches from the South (East to West) and one over by the prisoners. He seems to be talking to them and paying more attention to them than to his surrounds. The rest of the men are around the cooking fires and seem to be drinking some.
You are basically slightly North of East and the guards aren't looking your way, the bank is roughly 6 foot high, so in theory the boat could slide past all those eating if you made no noise and every one stayed very low, the reality is that it would be tough and when you get most of the way around, that guard by the prisoners could see you if he was looking.  Yuli is beside himself and wants to kill the Guard and free the 3 prisoners.
IF they could get in the boat quickly and you moved on a bit, the riders might be hard pressed to do to much, the banks are most over grown and the horses would be of little use.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 350):

Mustafa will position the boat where he has cover for a quick getaway, before talking quietly with the soldiers and the boy.

"We are going to need to kill the guards silently and quickly. I would suggest the two crossbowmen take careful aim at the vitals for each with bodkin bolts before looking for a suitable distraction such as raucous drunken yelling or something similar, before taking out the two guards. I will be as backup, but the sling is neither silent nor stealthy. After that, I suggest we try to make the guards disappear, and our two soldiers take their uniforms, and their places. Then I can approach the guard at the prisoners, as long as they do not have uniforms, and deal with him, before getting the prisoners away. Ideas?"

I wish to come with you so I can calm the prisoners ... I am local and they'll understand my speech.  Yuli says.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 352):

"Ok, but you should try to look like a raider, so that when you are talking to them, the rest of the raiders are less likely to notice you. Everyone else happy with that plan?"

The sailors aren't so thrilled, the soldiers seem to be looking forward to it though.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 354):

The sailors task is to stay with the boat and wait just out enough, with ropes, so they put out and shoot if hostile folk appear, or move in quickly if friendly folk appear.

They are good with that

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 356):

So we get ready to put this into action...

OK, It's now late afternoon, the sun is low, food is close to being served, and the soldiers are all very relaxed. Only the guards are fully armed and armored; Most have only the knife they plan to eat with and their weapons and armor is stacked with their saddles and blankets. The guy in charge is obviously not really concerned about an attack.  Yuli thinks he one of the raiders who has been killing farm folk, especially women and men of age, younger boys and girls are taken for slaves.

You can now get a solid count, three guards and 18 others. Obviously a few spare horses. All the horses are on a picquet line and are unsaddled and have their reins, saddles, blankets and bits removed.
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In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 358):

Mustafa think that with so few, they should wait until they are asleep before attacking, so they have a chance of killing many more of them...

Yuli bristles, saying by then they will have killed the women and thrown them in the river.

In reply to Finger of Fate (msg # 360):

"Unlikely. But if we hit them now, we only kill a few and may save them, since with so many active the chances of someone shooting them are much higher. If we attack when they are asleep, we have a chance to kill many more of them, and still may save the hostages. Which is better?"