Tangential, but Quoi still hasn't logged on, so I guess they're out...

  Were the Jimena <-> Valgard <-> White Shadow <-> Big Sister connections worked out or are those still pending?

Valgard and I have figured things out, yeah. I need to finalize and type up my character sheet, but should otherwise be good to go.

To be honest I missed the post about the required relationship.  I'll get on that tonight and hopefully have it wrapped up by tomorrow if Big Sister is around.

:-J It was more of a brainstorm than a hard requirement, really, but if it helps the pack--then yet. Totally a requirement. lol

As far as Big Sister's cubs go, I don't see an issue--she has her responsibilities in home life and then she has her pack duties. Now I'm not super keen on roleplaying as a single, pre-teen mother, but if that's what BS wants to run then I'm all for it. It's my understanding that the cubs need parenting, not breastfeeding, so she should be able to leave one of them in charge if she has to go away on an overnight.
I'm not particularly interested in totem quests, so if you guys want a totem of your own I'm down with it, but would prefer you just pay the background dots and get the one you want.
Regarding the Sept totem: you know, I had a thought. What about Salamander? It feels like it would go pretty well with the whole Barton Springs area. (The Barton Springs Salamander is an endangered species on Wikipedia, and the totem is all about wetlands conservation. And, you know, not killing salamanders. lol) What do you guys think?

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Ah, to clarify some things:
Big sister is (barely) an adult by Garou standards. Metis and wolves age quicker then humans. She is fully grown. Easy mistake to make, since her malnourishment and runty stature might certainly make her look like a skinny young teen from a small distance, especially in the group with the cubs.
Big Sister is not a mom. She's more of a nanny. Wait, those get paid... umm.. the oldest kid in the group taking care of the younger ones? Probably the best approximation. It is also her Duty with the capitol D. Garou Duties are serious business. If something happens to a cub while she's off gallivanting with the pack there will be hell to pay.

I like Salamander. You'll find lizards in the cities too, so it's something Big Sister would be passingly familiar with.

Resources? WOOO! I CAN FINALLY BUY BURGERS!.... What do you mean I can't hold a day job? Boooo!

Do we start in an urban area? That's foremost on my mind right now.

  From the earlier post, Barton Creek Habitat Preserve. Which I don't know anything about, but judging by the name it isn't likely to be an urban center...

It's not far out of Austin--about 10 miles from downtown. There are subdivisions running up to the foot of the preserve.

@BigSister - ;-) Noted. lol
And as they said, the Preserve is close enough to the city center that commuting shouldn't be an issue for you, even if you wanted to travel it on paw for whatever reason.

Hello everyone. I was hoping to join the pack as a Homid, Ragabash, Shadow Lord.

Concept: Black Hat Cowboy Badass

Appearance/Personality: Black Stetson hat and a devilish smile. His watch and style speak to great wealth. He has manicured black hair and a well trimmed mustache. His eyes twinkle with excitement and mischief. He is always willing to take a big risk for a big payoff but more often takes risks just for the thrill of it. He revels excessively in his victories, and broods and plots when defeated.

Before I create the character I need the pack to agree on this character. I have another back up character in mind, if the pack in significantly opposed.

Black hat? As in hacker? AND cowboy? AND classic machiavellian? Nyeh... Sounds more like a collection of stats then a real person.

  Probably not a hacker if he's a cowboy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...at_symbolism_in_film

  Edit: Wait, well-trimmed mustache? Come on now, it needs to be long enough to keep waxed for a proper twirling now and then!

  I am curious as to what the second one would be though...
This message was last edited by the player at 21:29, Sat 30 Nov 2019.

Lee van Cleef never needed to twirl a mustache...

In reply to Big Sister (msg # 94):

Ghost-of Silver is correct- The black hat is to symbolize his devious nature. I am about as far away from a hacker as possible.

His family (kinfolk) are wealthy cattle ranchers (non-gmo, free-range, etc). They mostly run the business side of things. Rides-the-Lighting has a cocky cowboy attitude mixed with Shadow Lord plotting. No waxed mustache, a man has to have some lines he is not willing to cross.


My second character idea would be a Homid Uktena Ahroun.

College athlete that is starting to really connect with his Indian & Garou heritage.

  What is the Shadow Lord's auspice?

Homid Ragabash Shadow Lord

  As long as the plotting and risk-taking doesn't undermine the pack (or put it in jeopardy) I don't have an issue with the first character.

  I will admit that I slightly favor the second one though, mainly because I've yet to see an well-played Uktena that lasted. (Game collapse and/or player disappearance have pretty much claimed them all...)

I like the second one better too. It might mesh better.

I guess I'm the oddball, I actually prefer the shadow lord. Mainly because I love the shadow lords and would love to see one done well, and I like the concept.

And I for one would love to see his plotting and risk taking get us into trouble. Valgard wouldn't like him, but I would.

I too like the shadow lord

I'm ambivalent. I feel like the Shadow Lord is more likely to bounce antagonistically off of other characters (particularly since at least one person mentioned 'mustache-twirling' Shadow Lords in a list of turn-offs [and yes, I know we've established that said mustache is not hipster enough to twirl]). I also think it would be interesting, though, given Austin's horrible sprawl, to have a group of kinfolk with a lot of land outside the city (probably east). It's easy for me to imagine that nobody really likes the Shadow Lord presence, but they're all a little beholden to them for hunting rights and rite rights and such.

Based on popular sentiment, for the sake of moving things along I'm going to rule:
You guys are not a separate pack yet, but you're being groomed with the intention you'll become one of the splinter packs the sept spools off.
There's been more Wyrm activity lately, so the Philodoxes have come to agree that we need more coverage over the deeper parts of the city. The sept's totem is Salamander, so for Gaia's sake don't step on any lizards.
Sound good?

...Amphibians...sorry

  Uhm, can anyone post the full details for Salamander? (I can look them up later but sooner is better.)

In reply to Ghost-of-Silver (msg # 107):

http://wiki.rpol.net/?id=74277/salamander

RPOL Wiki URLs always look funky to me... Does that link work for you guys?