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Burning Stag Loot.

Posted by ConspiratorFor group 0
Carmen Diaz
player, 885 posts
AC 18 | HP 35/35 | PP 12
Warlock Bounty Hunter
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 11:19
  • msg #44

Burning Stag Loot

Having had a look, this is what I've come up with. Of course, if you would prefer contested equipment to be settled by way of dice, I know a fantastic venue for it..... :D
Sovok and Spark haven't chosen so far. It might just be that they get a much greater total gold to make up for it.

CharacterChoice 1Choice 2Reasoning
SparkN/AN/A 
MalkusHalberd +1Plate ArmourFirst picks and plenty of Plate
TuskHalberd +1N/AFirst pick, uncontested
VictorCirclet of BlastingLongsword +1Guyver wanted circlet but he is uncontested on Girdle
CarmenGreater Been There CrystalHalf-PlateErret isn't here, plenty of half-plate
TidelanN/AN/AQuit the game
Elisar MoonravenGem of SeeingN/AAzucondie also wanted 1st pick, but had an alternative Eversmoking bottle
Lukas VerbanntBoots of the WinterlandsQuiver +1 ArrowsAlso wanted Bracers of Archery but this was Nutcrackers first option, Ten wanted but had +1 longsword alternative, Tiria also wanted but had +1 dagger alternative
SantioLongsword +1Bracers of Defense1st picks, uncontested
NutcrackerBracers of ArcheryHalf-Plate, Quiver +1 ArrowsIzayah wanted Half-Plate as first pick, Lukas also wanted but had an alternative in Boots of Winterlands
Izayah HamadrellHalf-Plate +1Quiver +1 ArrowsWanted Half-plate+1 as preference, gave up Scale+1
GuyverBelt of DwarvenkindScale Mail+1Uncontested first picks
Tiria NailoDagger +1N/AFirst pick, uncontested
WalterHalf-plate +1N/AGuyver taking +1 scale instead
Golun FearstormLongsword +1Plate ArmourUncontested first pick, gave Victor plate armour +1 Longsword instead
TenLongsword +1N/AAlthough put in for Boots of Winterlands, Lukas wouldn't have got any of his picks if Ten had received them
BrohmVicious DaggerN/AAlthough put in for Boots of Winterlands, Lukas wouldn't have got any of his picks if Brohm had received them
LarwickN/AN/ALeft the game
AzucondieEversmoking BottleN/AAlthough Gem of Seeing was first preference, Elisar only had one item on his picks. This is Azucondie's alternate option
Sai NightbreezeN/AN/AHasn't posted since start of the year
Donella TurenAlchemy JugN/AFirst Pick
SovokN/AN/A 
Divok GezahaStaff of HealingN/AUncontested first pick
QitrisMace +1Half-plateUncontested first picks


Iteminterest show by ...
2x  +1 halberds 
+1 dagger 
2x  +1 pikes 
12x  suits of half-plate750gp value
20x  sets of chain mail75gp value
12x  greatswords50gp value
30x  shields10gp value
10x  heavy crossbows50gp value
20x  light crossbows25gp value
16x  javelinsneglible value

Total value (full price) of unwanted items, 12,400gp. I suspect this would only actually sell for 50% at most, so 6,200gp value.
I'm not opposed to the idea of Spark taking a weapon to sell at his store for himself. I'm sure he can make his own weapons with the value he receives.

We have 21 active participants in the battle. 29 items taken for a total arbitrary value of 8,700gp (using 300gp as a value per pick)
14,900gp of extracted value, split across 21 people is 709gp each.
If you take 1 pick, you get 409gp from sale of goods.
If you take 2 picks, you get 109gp from sale of goods.
If you took nothing, you get 709gp from sale of goods.

I have no idea if this seems fair or not, but it's something...

This message was last edited by the player at 11:26, Sat 11 June 2022.
Guyver
player, 44 posts
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 11:35
  • msg #45

Burning Stag Loot

From the way I understood it the Belt would be my first choice, thereby giving up my claim to a halfplate +1, for which I'd get the scale mail +1 as a freebie from Izayah which is not part of the loot, so my second choice would be the Circlet.
Victor Iusticia
player, 637 posts
AC19 DC13 PP10
31/31 HP 0 THP
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 11:40
  • msg #46

Re: Burning Stag Loot

Carmen Diaz:
Having had a look, this is what I've come up with.


I don't think your table is up to date, Victor is only claiming plate armour at this stage, not the Circlet or +1 Longsword.

This message was last edited by the player at 11:40, Sat 11 June 2022.
Carmen Diaz
player, 886 posts
AC 18 | HP 35/35 | PP 12
Warlock Bounty Hunter
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 11:44
  • msg #47

Re: Burning Stag Loot

I just went off the table that Elisar updated today. Damn, didn't see there were changes to be made :(

Guyver, just because Izayah takes the half-plate doesn't mean that the scale mail comes to whoever wants it for free.
Carmen Diaz
player, 887 posts
AC 18 | HP 35/35 | PP 12
Warlock Bounty Hunter
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 11:47
  • msg #48

Burning Stag Loot

Ahh, I know what it was. One of the charts is using just one claim only. The one I did tries to resolve the multiple item issue.
Malkus
player, 925 posts
AC 18 | HP 34/41 | PP 11
AC 13 | HP 14/26 | PP 14
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 13:43
  • msg #49

Burning Stag Loot

In reply to Carmen Diaz (msg # 48):

Nice chart!

My first choice is plate, with the +1 Halberd being my second. (Slight correction)
Guyver
player, 45 posts
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 14:19
  • msg #50

Re: Burning Stag Loot

quote:
Guyver, just because Izayah takes the half-plate doesn't mean that the scale mail comes to whoever wants it for free.


"This is what he said:

"Izayah: If there's someone else that wants magical half-plate armor but's willin' t'accept it, I'll give 'em my magical scale mail armor instead so I can get the magical half-plate armor an' they still get somethin' cool - an' they would still get a pick from the pile since the scale mail's comin' offa me an' not the pile."

The magical scale mail is not loot, it's nobody's except Izayah's, it's his property and his alone to give away, and he wants a half plate +1, loot which I give up my claim for in favor of the Belt as first choice so Izayah can take a half plate +1 instead of rolling for it or wasting more time negotiating over. And for giving up my claim to a half plate +1 I get his scale +1.

If the circlet is Victor's first choice then it's his. I could be mistaken but I think his first choice was one of full plates. So we can roll over the Circlet if it's not his first choice either since we're the only two who want it.

I could technically settle for the scale +1, make the circlet my first choice, bypassing any roll, and then pick up the Belt as my third choice if that sounds fairer because nobody but me has staked a claim on it .. but I'm okay rolling for the Circlet. That's what we're doing right? Negotiating. That's my deal.

I'm not giving up my first choice for my second choice if I don't get the scale. In which case splitting 2 half plates +1 among 3 people would likely come down to rolies.

Izayah's compromise instead sounds like an logical solution I'm okay with. It gets me slightly better armor instead of the best, and a Belt, and a possible chance for the Circlet. Which sounds better than a possible chance for two items and one second choice".


(yes I know +1 is not an IC term but just using it to prevent confusion)
This message was last edited by the player at 14:37, Sat 11 June 2022.
Carmen Diaz
player, 888 posts
AC 18 | HP 35/35 | PP 12
Warlock Bounty Hunter
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 15:00
  • msg #51

Burning Stag Loot

Quite honestly, the fact that you're getting anything at all seems to be reasonable. You showed up for what, 6 or 7 rounds of the entire assault?
Qitris
player, 65 posts
Moon Elf Artiforger
HP 21/21; AC 18; PP 15
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 17:10
  • msg #52

Burning Stag Loot

OOC: I think if we sort out the first picks priority the rest will fall into place more nicely.
Character1st Pick
AzucondieEversmoking Bottle
BrohmVicious Dagger
CarmenGreater Been There Crystal
DivokStaff of Healing
DonellaAlchemy Jug
ElisarGem of Seeing
Golun+1 Longsword
GuyverBelt of Dwarvenkind
Izayah+1 Half-Plate
LukasBoots of the Winterland
MalkusPlate Mail
Nutcracker  Bracers of Archery
Qitris+1 Mace
SantioBracers of Defense
SovokShield & 2 Javelins
Spark -Passed-
Ten+1 Longsword
Tiria+1 Dagger
Tusk+1 Halberd
VictorPlate Mail
Not Wendel+1 Half-Plate

Not having handy writing implements, Qitris scratched out a chart into the soil of the fort as such. "So, if we have this worked out as I have it down, then the only really contested pieces are three claims on two suits of plate mail and two claims on one gem. Unless I've overlooked something or someone wishes to make a change, everyone else would be good for their first round of picks."
This message was last edited by the player at 09:29, Sun 12 June 2022.
Azucondie
player, 389 posts
Bard as Clown
AC 13 HP 32/29
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 17:37
  • msg #53

Burning Stag Loot

I renounce my claim on gem of seeing.
Qitris
player, 67 posts
Moon Elf Artiforger
HP 21/21; AC 18; PP 15
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 17:43
  • msg #54

Burning Stag Loot

OOC: Edited table to reflect Azu's action.
Azucondie
player, 390 posts
Bard as Clown
AC 13 HP 32/29
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 18:05
  • msg #55

Burning Stag Loot

Azucondie looked at Elisar and handed him the gem. "You better let me use it, or I'll be mad. You do not want the clown to be angry."
Qitris
player, 68 posts
Moon Elf Artiforger
HP 21/21; AC 18; PP 15
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 18:25
  • msg #56

Burning Stag Loot

OOC: Also, if it helps, this is the inventory after the above 1st round picks are taken before the 3rd Plate Armor person renounces their claim:
Inventory After Round 1
3 +1 halberds
2 +1 longswords
1 +1 daggers
2 +1 pikes
3 full quivers of +1 arrows
1 Circlet of Blasting
15 suits of half-plate
20 sets of chain mail
12 greatswords
29 shields
10 heavy crossbows
20 light crossbows
14 javelins

This message was last edited by the player at 07:24, Sun 12 June 2022.
Walter
player, 53 posts
AC 18 HP 25/25 PP 10
Everything is exciting!
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 19:02
  • msg #57

Burning Stag Loot

The little green man looks a Qitris with a quizzical look while scratching his nose. "Who are you calling Wendel, hm?"
Qitris
player, 69 posts
Moon Elf Artiforger
HP 21/21; AC 18; PP 15
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 19:07
  • msg #58

Burning Stag Loot

With a simple scratching Qitris 'fixed' the chart she had made. "There, fixed. Not sure where I got that, but you're definitely not a Wendel."
Santio
player, 227 posts
AC 15 (17), HP 39/39
Passive Perception: 18
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 19:30
  • msg #59

Burning Stag Loot

Santio’s first choice is, without doubt, the Braces of Defence.

I withhold a second choice until I see what is left after first choices are taken … but it’ll likely be (not the long sword, but) a quiver of +1 arrows.

Golun Fearstorm
Player, 90 posts
May Selune save your soul
AC:19(21) PP:13 HP:20/20
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 20:42
  • msg #60

Burning Stag Loot

Golun’s  first choice was a +1 long sword, happy to renounce claim on plate armour.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:12, Sun 12 June 2022.
Elisar Moonraven
player, 713 posts
Songs and stories for all
AC:14 PP:9 HP:28/28
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 20:45
  • msg #61

Burning Stag Loot

If Carmen claims the Crystal does that mean she is forfeiting a share of the cash from the sale of the leftover loot? I ask because Smith would offer each player 200gp if he takes it.

Thoughts?
Qitris
player, 71 posts
Moon Elf Artiforger
HP 21/21; AC 18; PP 15
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 20:56
  • msg #62

Re: Burning Stag Loot

In reply to Golun Fearstorm (msg # 60):

OOC: Whoop, misread your post, then. Thanks for clarifying. No contests except for what Elisar has brought up.

EDIT: Also Sovok has a pick! Almost forgot.

This message was last edited by the player at 21:01, Sat 11 June 2022.
Brohm of Clan Stonehelm
player, 370 posts
Dwarf, Male, Ranger.
AC.:15, HP.:48/48, PP:13
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 22:09
  • msg #63

Burning Stag Loot

In reply to Lukas Verbannt (msg # 32):

"Your lack of choice on rewards we all lay claim to does nothing to settle what your blood could not.". He rumbled, his deep bass voice stern in response.  "It is an insult that you think an action that costs you nothing would amend anything.  Make your choice, and any competing claims can be settled before distribution.". His tone was final, and indicative of an end to the discussion.
Carmen Diaz
player, 889 posts
AC 18 | HP 35/35 | PP 12
Warlock Bounty Hunter
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 22:34
  • msg #64

Re: Burning Stag Loot

Elisar Moonraven:
If Carmen claims the Crystal does that mean she is forfeiting a share of the cash from the sale of the leftover loot? I ask because Smith would offer each player 200gp if he takes it.

Thoughts?


Why would this be the case? I don't see the 3,000gp boots of the winterlands being specifically penalised in the same way.
Sovok
player, 45 posts
Male, Goliath, Barbarian
AC.:13, HP.:29/29, PP:13
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 22:47
  • msg #65

Re: Burning Stag Loot

Sovok looks over the loot, his broad shoulders shrugging.  "I will take some coin, a shield, a pair of javelins.  They will serve well as totems of victory.  There is nothing here that is made for one such as I.". He states in his deep, booming voice.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:47, Sat 11 June 2022.
Azucondie
player, 392 posts
Bard as Clown
AC 13 HP 32/29
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 22:50
  • msg #66

Re: Burning Stag Loot

In reply to Carmen Diaz (msg # 64):

"Because the boots wouldn't be used for the good of the entire community. You are being selfish."
Victor Iusticia
player, 638 posts
AC19 DC13 PP10
31/31 HP 0 THP
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 22:52
  • msg #67

Re: Burning Stag Loot

OOC:
I think now that everyone has laid claim to a first choice we should lock those in and now look to distribution of what remains.

I'm sensing there are some who are now getting annoyed about loot distribution and I am concerned things may deteriorate from here into some sore feelings.

I suggest that those who intend to use any of the remaining magic weapons get dibs and then the rest either be given to Erret for the town militia or new characters that arrive in town or otherwise be sold and everyone get an even share regardless of previous claimed items or time involved in the assault.

Victor would like one of those +1 swords but will be first to step back should there be too much interest in them as I intend to transition to a whip in a few levels anyway.

If everyone agrees to this I'd like to call on our lovely GMs to arbitrate redistribution of gold so that those who did not claim high value items are duly rewarded for their contribution.

This message was last edited by the player at 23:04, Sat 11 June 2022.
Brohm of Clan Stonehelm
player, 372 posts
Dwarf, Male, Ranger.
AC.:15, HP.:48/48, PP:13
Sat 11 Jun 2022
at 23:21
  • msg #68

Re: Burning Stag Loot

Brohm considers the arguments going back and forth.  Finally, deciding on something, he speaks.  His deep voice even, and confident.  The solution is to appraise all of the items, then add in the coins.  Once you have the total, divide it by the number of participants.  Each can then potentially adjust their share by claiming items.  Rival claims can be settled by mutually agreed means."
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