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Out of Character Discussion.

Posted by Hollyhock GodFor group 0
Reyfus
player, 7 posts
Tue 11 Feb 2020
at 21:40
  • msg #33

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Yes the default assumption is we are our imperator's only powers and together we share our chancel and familia.
Luna Duscae
player, 19 posts
Tue 11 Feb 2020
at 21:49
  • msg #34

Re: Out of Character Discussion

We don't strictly operate together at all times, but we do share an Imperator and Chancel.
Reyfus
player, 8 posts
Tue 11 Feb 2020
at 22:00
  • msg #35

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Correct but we are very close allies and are us against the world basically.
Player 4
player, 2 posts
Tue 11 Feb 2020
at 22:22
  • msg #36

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Ok, the lore seems to be the same as in 2nd edition then. There are some differences in the system though. I will look into this.

I was thinking of a Power of the perpetual Motion incarnated in the Wandering Jew. But with your own concepts, I wonder if I would go into something like Secrets/Hidden Truth. Or even Fear with a Scarecrow.

What would you like the most ?

PS: I'm a French speaking Belgian. And my come back in rpol is also motivated by the opportunity to practice my English in good conditions. So don't hesitate to correct me if you feel so.
Luna Duscae
player, 20 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 04:29
  • msg #37

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Secrets, Hidden Truths, or Fear could be neat. I'm not sure what to make of the other one, personally.

I'm looking over Keys to try and pick the ones that are best suited to what I want to focus on with Luna.

Personality-wise, I intend for her to be somewhat melancholic, romantic, aloof, and an iconoclastic and rebellious type. She's had a sequence of lives, effectively - from a rebellious young mortal who stumbled her way into the domain of vampires, to the thrall of a powerful vampire who spent time offering her blood, then blossoming into one of the undead herself. She spent time with the vampires as such , until she became selected as the Power of Night, an event that came with freedom from her bonds of blood to her former sire and also a refreshing glimpse and more of the deeper reality of the world than she'd seen before.

She remade herself from it, with the goal of being someone worthy of her new power, but still held down by the past, in ways. She remained a vampire, her craving for blood lingered, and while she surpassed elders in power, she was now an outsider amongst her former kind twice over.

She'd always been lonely, and it had only become worse when she became a Vampire - she had always been rootless and without a connection, looking for someone or something to hold on to. There were plenty of passions, but no deep and gripping loves, and that, too, followed her into her Noble life, where she also must worry about the prohibition against a power who dares to love.

It doesn't stop them from seeing her, from falling for her almost without her effort or intent, and she cares, she simply doesn't... love, regardless of how she wants to.

As such, and entirely for functional purposes I've selected keys 6 and 9 for Luna. I was... amused, when I settled in, that it fit that way.


Pondering the questions for her, I'm liking the answers of

'In Love with Something' but I am also considering 'Something cool' or 'Epic, Inhuman, Powerful'
Night being (undecided) Beautiful or Painful, she kind of feels both? and either something Lived or Described (I liked Lived for Night Life flavor)

Troubled Origin, I think, but I'm planning to pick several options from the various subcategories:

Some Scars Remain, Trouble Inspired Me, Alienation, and Freedom!. Possibly Reverence in Purpose.

Contacts, I'm debating taking a few. I like taking Legacy  for +1 to New Life, but I also kind of want it to reflect either her sire or a vampiric elder she still has contact with and may not totally get along with but won't ignore.

Also considering a Corrupting Influence, possibly (if Reyfus is onboard) his Excrucian cousin, who perhaps in addition to treating him as little, has an interest in Luna? And also at least one contact reflecting the small group of lovers/blood sources she keeps but also guides and helps with her Shine.

Planning to go Code of Hell, but variant in that she's definitely a 'love the flawed and damaged' sort of person, but she's less 'revel in corruption' and more 'help them better themselves / protective' sort of angle.


Will have the actual life path done up eventually. :D but that's what I have thus far  as far as my notes go.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:54, Wed 12 Feb 2020.
Luna Duscae
player, 21 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 04:31
  • msg #38

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Also, 2 votes for adult rating, anyone object to that?
Reyfus
player, 9 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 05:09
  • msg #39

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Player 4: I think going Hidden Truths would not only be the most fun and evocative estate of the ones you're considering, but thematically would go the best with Alcohol, Night, and Deviance. That's my vote.

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Everyone (proposal for Imperator): So I am imagining our Imperator as a sultry, dark fem fatal Magister of the Dark. Don't Worry player 1 you can still be code of hell individual nobles can have differing codes and I like your more positive take on the hell code anyone. She would not necessarily be terribly malicious herself though, but would play out a lot like Jessica Rabbit from the Roger Rabbit movie in terms of her drive, her love and hate of people and things, and her general feel. She'd treat her powers relatively well, pushing them and making things interesting but being truly kind to them in return and helping in her own way. To everything else though, she is truly kind and perverse in even measure and exults in the variety of choices humans can make, even if many of those choices lead them to self-harm as much as self-help.

Here are some traits I'm thinking of:

LADY EVANESSA

Estates: Alcohol, Deviance, Hidden Truths, Night
*Magister of the Dark
-Choices
-Hungers
*Assertive yet permissive
*Like a fem fatal
*Always has a glass of wine in hand, but never gets drunk
*Sultry, but poised
*Can be kind, but also perverse


And she'd look something like this:

https://es.dreamstime.com/foto...e-vino-image57778679

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Player 1: Here is a suggestion for your character based on what I've seen you post and what we've discussed. I really like your concept and wanted to offer suggestions to help flesh it out more. I toned some things back given you over-spent before, but also to try and flesh the concept out more too I added new things as well. I also wanted you to have more anchors since you're so Treasure-focused. Obviously, you're the captain of this ship and I offer this purely to be gregarious and helpful and as an exercise in practicing the system. I hope you find something useful in it, and please feel free to give me suggestions for my own character too:

Luna Duscae (25 CP Total)

Stats (18 cp Spent)
Aspect 3   5 MP
Domain 0   5 MP
Persona 0  5 MP
Treasure 3 5 MP

Passions & Skills (8+5 Points) (1 cp spent)
Cool 0+3
Shine 3+0
Superior Vampiric Charisma 2
Passion: Rebellious Drive 2
Passion: I seek a connection with others 1
Skill: Drive 2
Skill: Stealth 2
Skill: Tracking 1
-1 Daytime Activities

Gifts (6 cp spent)
Durant 1
Eternal 3
Shapeshifting 1 (Forms: Human/Vampire (original), Mist, Bat, Black Fox, Hybridization of those forms, altering clothing, eye coloration)
Call Vampiric Animal Minions 1 (Summon any local bats, wolves, or rats. Lesser Summoning of Animals Miracle 4. Activation Simple -1, Area Local -1, Flexibility Handful -2, Rarity Common 0 = 1cp)

Bonds & Afflictions (13+3 Bond Points)
Bond 2: I am invigorated by Night itself.
Bond 2: My beloved Motorcycle (name pending) (anchor)
Bond 3: My Blood-Claimed Lovers (Collection of Anchors)
Bond 1: I never leave the chancel without my favorite black leather jacket! (Anchor)
Bond 2: I hate my vampiric sire!
Bond 1: While I don't need blood to survive anymore, I still have some of my old blood hunger.
Affliction 3: I have superhuman senses.
Affliction 1: My Bite is a pleasurable experience that won't kill or turn someone.
Affliction 1: I'm weaker during the day, although no longer burst into flame from sunlight.

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Next, I will post a proposal for my character tomorrow. I ran out of time tonight and gotta hit the sack to get up for work in the morning. Hope you enjoy reading this!

EDIT: Yes player 1 I'm on board for Reyfus' excrucian cousin also being involved with you somehow.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:11, Wed 12 Feb 2020.
Luna Duscae
player, 22 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 05:29
  • msg #40

Re: Out of Character Discussion

I'll consider the proposals there, but I have a bunch of stuff already written down on paper, I've been finishing up before  typing up. The affliction about being weaker in the day isn't needed. Durant alone covers it, and I've opted to write that up as the skill penalty, a bonus to the  bond empowering her at night instead, so it's less 'day is a nerf' and more 'night is a buff' mechanically for her.

Was going to be considering some additional anchors with my remaining points. Thanks for taking an interest. I probably won't get the animal summoning gift though, probably :)  want a little more MP to work with, especially with my Treasure having to have been lowered by 1 from the overspent version.


Regarding the ideas on the imperator:

I like the idea of her. I'm wondering if she likes to appear as kind of a lounge singer or something. I can definitely imagine she probably pokes a bit at Luna.

Any name or details you have fixed on the excrucian cousin?
Player 4
player, 3 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 10:27
  • msg #41

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Ok, I will go for the power of Hidden Thruth, with a Kassándra concept…
This message was last edited by the player at 10:33, Wed 12 Feb 2020.
Jimmy
player, 3 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 13:36
  • msg #42

Re: Out of Character Discussion

2 things

1 what's all the codes again?

2 hey one of my afflictions is that an excrucian is in love with me so what if reyfus's cousin is the one with me.
Luna Duscae
player, 23 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 16:06
  • msg #43

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Boiling the codes down here for you... also see page 146 for a better list, and I think there's another place; downside to this book, some stuff is hard to find.

Heaven:  Impossibly high standards, with the extreme of the code being 'so high nothing really lives up to them' Angels - sealed the gates of heaven against the dirty, impure world, but still try and improve said flawed world

Hell: Love the broken, corrupted, and damned. Devils and extreme interpretation revel in corruption and suffering and like to see people and things falter.

Light: Prioitizes human survival above all else, considering things like vampires, imperators, powers and excrucians to all be lesser, and their main priority is humanity

Dark: Similar to Hell, but explicitly fixated on humanity and their freedom. Specifically their freedoms that can be self-destructive.

Wild: Following your own internal laws without regard for the world's particulars or such. Very much an expression of those laws, which you won't directly violate.
Reyfus
player, 10 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 17:12
  • msg #44

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Jimmy I'd be ok with that too. Perhaps we can say his cousin has an interest in you guys because of how close you are to Reyfus. Like you guys probably met her through him when he went out to see her some time and forged your own connection with her afterward.
Luna Duscae
player, 24 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 17:17
  • msg #45

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Possible. I don't want to pile too much into the one NPC, though, and it sounds like my interest and Jimmy's may conflict there, given how that contact was looking to fit into my Lifepath.  I might go a different direction there, in that case.
Reyfus
player, 11 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 18:01
  • msg #46

Re: Out of Character Discussion

You mentioned corruption but it was vague. And we can have different excrucians for sure.

Maybe Jimmy is linked to reys cousin but the one linked to Luna is one of the bad ones who want to hurt Rey and they are trying to use you in hopes of getting closer to him in a bad way or to get at our imperator? Maybe even try to hurt Rey by hurting you, or manipilate you against him or the imperator?
Luna Duscae
player, 25 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 18:03
  • msg #47

Re: Out of Character Discussion

I'm going over my Contact options, but got ya.  I'll see what I come up with.
Reyfus
player, 12 posts
Wed 12 Feb 2020
at 18:19
  • msg #48

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Absolutely

...like I said before you're the captain of that ship. I'm just trying to be nice and helpful and offer feedback and suggestions and so on. I've always liked the collaborative aspect of this game system compared to many other systems.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:22, Wed 12 Feb 2020.
Reyfus
player, 13 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 04:13
  • msg #49

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Player 1: Yes, a lounge singer is a good image of how I'm envisioning our imperator.

To All: I have decided that Reyfus' Father was a Deceiver of high lineage named Locke Da'Variad, who had the pseudo estate of "The Curiosity of Locke Da'Variad". His cousin is also a deceiver who takes the form of an attractive woman (she's not as sultry to the level that our Imperator is, but she's always "pretty cute" to any onlooker in a universal way). Her name is Lasentha Da'Variad. She's relatively benign as far as excrucians go, but she's not a helpless pushover and can be feisty when pushed too far.

Some details about her. In the ongoing excrucian political debate of "Reyfus is an intriguing scion of our people that is becoming something new and supernal" versus "Reyfus is an abhorrent abomination that resulted when one of our own was in bed with the enemy whose existence is impossible" she definitely is in the first school or camp of thought where as his grandfather is in the latter (and sort of the leader of that school of thought).

She also responded strangely to Jimmy's Alcohol estate, and its property of causing accidents and loosening the mind somehow interacted with her own pseudo-estate of "The Thirst of Lasentha Da'Variad" and caused her to fall for him. Since alcohol seems to drown out other things (at least for a time) and this includes her metaphorical thirst. She thinks Jimmy is super HOT, and she wants him to sate her thirst in a literal and figurative way. And she can be kinda intense about things she cares about or that hold her attention. She's often concocting absurd and sometimes comical plots to try and seduce him.

She knows all about Reyfus of course and about our chancel and so on. Our Imperator and her have a live and let live policy right now. They used to be on more friendly terms when Locke was alive as they bonded over their love of fine wines but after his death Evanessa sort of withdrew from all Excrucians even the nice ones. Neither blame Reyfus for his father's death (they correctly blame his grandfather) but their relationship has been more civil than sisterly since then. She's on good terms with Reyfus though and he does see her now and then as she's the only friendly active family on his father's side he's got right now (the rest are outside creation or doing whatever). She really liked Locke - he was one of her favorite uncles - and was really upset with her grandfather's actions and pettiness. She is anxious to see what sort of god or god-monsyer Reyfus grows into one day, since she can tell he's still young in his power and in the process of changing into something else still. She basically sees him as a freak of nature, but in a good way.

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Ok, so here is what I'm thinking of Reyfus' Stats.

Name: Reyfus Da'Variad

Stats (15+1 cp Spent)
Aspect 0   5 MP
Domain 0   5 MP
Persona 4  5 MP
-Secondary Estate of "The Curiosity of Reyfus Da'Variad" 1
Treasure 1 5 MP

Passions & Skills (8)
Cool 0+2
Shine 4+0
Superior Godling Physique 4
Passion: I strive to excel at swordplay and the arts 1
Passion: I love learning about the things of the world and beyond 1

Gifts (9 cp spent)
Immortal 6
Glorious 2
Soul-Carving Sword 1

Bonds & Afflictions (13+1 Bond Points)

Bond 3: I can draw on my untapped limitless potential as a source of strength.
Bond 3: The Society of Eurytos (Collection of Anchors)
Bond 3: I am the legitimate heir of Eurytos, the Abhorrent Weapon of Horror. It doesn't play nice with anyone else though. (Anchor)
Affliction 3: I am above the law.
Affliction 1: I'm a freak of nature...and some excrucians think so in a good way.
Affliction 1: ...and so does Lord Entropy. Which kinda creeps me out.

Estate Properties (7): Deviance
2 Causes something to stray from norms and expectations
2 Can sometimes be a source of good with pleasantly surprising results
1 Makes something miss its mark
1 Allows the impossible to become possible
1 Is confounding, devious, and sneaky

Estate Properties (7): The Curiosity of Reyfus Da'Variad
2 Can discover the truth and learn secrets
1 Demands satisfaction
1 Killed the cat
1 Is ripe with possibilities
1 Can get you into or out of trouble
1 Is intriguing, captivating, and sultry

Anchor Panoply

The Society of Eurytos: This mystery cult is thematically part Stone Mason, Part Illuminati, part religious group, and part sorcerous cabal. It is composed of members and their friends and families and has chapters around the world with interests in secular business, politics, and the esoteric. It initially began as an Excrucian cult centered around the outer god Locke Da'Variad (who's divine curiosity blessed the cult with knowledge and power) and to a lesser extent some of his allied excrucians like Lasentha. However, it has since changed hands and its sole patron is the god Locke's only child, the divine blossoming prince Reyfus Da'Variad. This is a wondrous collection of Anchors with access to sorcery of many types, although it only functions on the mundane level of normal or mundane-magical action without Reyfus expending Treasure MP.

Abhorrent Weapon [Horror]: Originally known as Eurytos, this is one of the seven known abhorrent weapons on the Ash. Originally created by a powerful excrucian of high lineage named Lock Da'Variad, it was known as a divine relic that could inspire joy. But after being forced to kill its own maker by other excrucians, it now lives in utter horror of itself and became a sharp and barbed thing that ceased inspiring joy. It's self-loathing horror allows it to inflict horrific wounds on anything it strikes, and it is able to cut through and kill anything. It only withholds harm from and allows itself to be wielded by its maker's son, Reyfus Da'Variad. He one day hopes to help Eurytos move past its personal horror somehow but knows that will be a slow and long undertaking.
Luna Duscae
player, 26 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 06:06
  • msg #50

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Aha, Ninja'd by Reyfus~!

Lounge Singer Imperator:  I like. I definitely imagine our Chancel (if it's a city style location) has a very active night life - lounges, clubs, bars, ect.) There's probably A vampire presence, but not a massive one. *just had this idea* Maybe she's led a small group of Vampires out of the usual vampire culture and that's settled here and she can do a contact related to that. I know I've had some contact pondering of late.

Cousin Lasentha sounds fun. I get the idea that maybe Luna finds her passion interesting, maybe even (covertly) lends her a hand, but also doesn't really get what she's so into about Jimmy, as for the start of things.  I can see them interacting, even if I am not going the route I had in mind.

Overall, I like Reyfus. Nice that you gave him an Excrucian-style Estate as well. Hope you're oK with me also getting a good Shine value? (I like the idea that she does have positive impacts on people when she tries)



Pondering on my Lifepath. My working bit here so far is as follows

Lifepath Notes

Estate: Night

Key VI: Wild Oats - Key of Destiny Denied
Heart: Hunger
  • Lonely 'Bad Girl' Romantic
  • Love of the Night Life? (Estate is Something Lived)
  • I need their Blood. (Lived a Troubled Life)
  • I want to Love them. (Code of Hell)
Shadow: Why It Feels Empty
  • Difficulty Opening Up To Others (Alienation)
  • Powers are Forbidden to Love (Reverence of Purpose)
  • They can't really understand me... (Followers Contact [Her Collection of Blood-doners/lovers])


Key IX: Honeysuckle - Key of Something, Finally at Rest
Heart: My New Life
  • Charmingly Aloof and Benignly Rebellious
  • Carefully Hidden Soft Spots (Estate is Painful Side of Life)
  • A Protector (Trouble Inspired Me)
  • ???? (Legacy Contact: Elder Vampire)
Shadow: My Old Life
  • They Made Me What I Am (You are Something Cool)
  • I love the Night Life (Estate is Beautiful Side of Life)
  • The Vampires Took Advantage of Me (Some Scars Remain)
  • I Regret What He Made Me Do??? (Nemesis Contact: Former Sire)




I picked both Beautiful and Painful sides of life despite generally the rule being to pick one, because I love the feel of Luna being conflicted as to whether or not she actually does find it more painful or beautiful.

I picked freely with the options for troubled, humble and blessed lives, as the text does suggest you're free to do so. I mainly picked Troubled (but I felt like Extraordinary would also be viable), but picked all relevant sub-picks that seemed to fit: Some Scars Remain, Trouble Inspired Me, Alienation, and Reverence in Purpose.

So far I'm debating Contact related stuff.
Her Followers contact is intended to represent the anchors she has who offer her blood and she inspires with Shine/Guidance. She cares, but has trouble feeling truly loved by them.

I am liking the idea of possibly two Vampire Contacts, setting her former Sire up as a particularly bad dude amongst the vampires, and possibly an elder, and an more neutral position with another Elder perhaps, but ultimately I figure most vampires see her as 'technically one of us, so we can't just through her out of vampire spaces (she'd probably kill us), but not *really* one of us anymore.



I am planning on a Shine of at least 3, maybe higher ( I assume anytime something is bought that invalidates something, like a Persona level that comes with a free rank of shine) it would refund the thing so it can be respent... (Similarly I assume Durant/Elusive/Eternal can be 'upgraded' toward Active Immortality, that reasonable?)

Having two Vampire NPCs might be a lot, though, so, I could just go for an Elder Vampire who is her main friendly connection to the vampiric community and having issues with it come up occasionally, and drop the 'Former Sire as Nemesis' and have him actually just be legit beneath her now.

I am imagining she's hurt people and possibly been hurt in the past with her vampire connections. She did spend some time as essentially one of their hanger-ons who was there to be a blood snack. Eventually earned/ someone wanted to turn her' so she was turned, then had to serve them, and probably did some things in general she's not happy with during that time.

Ultimately still debating on the contacts for Key 9.
Luna Duscae
player, 27 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 06:24
  • msg #51

Re: Out of Character Discussion

Found some art that might make for good imperator reference too :D (or, frankly, maybe an NPC for me.)

Slight lighting variant: https://i.postimg.cc/BvYxPyv6/Evanesse-b.jpg


This message was last edited by the player at 06:26, Thu 13 Feb 2020.
Luna Duscae
player, 28 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 07:50
  • msg #52

Re: Out of Character Discussion

WIP sheet here. Still got a few things to do.

Finalize Contacts and Lifepath stuff...
Finish Mundane Skill List (I've been having issue wording exactly what I mean for her 'rebellious' thing.)
Additional Anchors - there's not strictly a problem leaving some points unspent, because I can use a treasure miracle to claim a miraculous anchor in play (and simultaniously invoke it, too!)

Project Ideas~!


Growth Plans: I know I plan to grow several things early on;
2 CP worth - Immortal (+ the points from Durant and Eternal)
I want to raise Treasure and aspect each by 1, and definitely get some Persona early on.




Name:   Luna Duscae
Estate: Night
Origin: Human-turned-Vampire-turned Power
Age:    33 (21 apparent)
Gender: Female

Wounds
BoxesSeverityEffects
[ ][ ]Deadly 
[ ]Serious 
[ ][ ]Surface 

TraitsRankMPMax MP
Aspect366
Domain066
Persona066
Treasure366

Mundane Skills & Passions
Will8/8
RatingSkill
0 + 3Cool
4 + 0Shine
3Superior Vampiric Charisma
4Passion: Rebellious Style
2Skill: #####
-1Skill: Daytime Activites

Bonds & Afflictions
RatingDetails
3Bond: I am invigorated by the Night.
3Affliction: I have incredible, superhuman senses.
1Affliction: My bite is a pleasurable experience that won't kill
3Bond: My Motorcycle (Anchor)
3Bond: (Followers/Collection of Blood Donor/lovers) (Anchor)
0Bond: #####
0Affliction: #####

More ideas: 3 Bond Points Unspent
A personal icon (bloody crescent, a silver/dark moon shape with the points of the crescent stained red)
'Someone whose blood I've tasted' -idea of her being able to gain power over someone by tasting their blood.

Estate Properties: Night
RatingDetails
3Night invokes Lonliness, Intimacy, or Revelry.
2Night draws out your true nature.
1Night is a mantle of concealment for those who need it.
1Night is a time of rest and sleep.

Additional Anchor Notes
(Name Pending) Motorcycle
  • Expanded Details
(Followers/Blood Donors/lovers)
  • Expanded Details
Anchor
  • Expanded Details
Anchor
  • Expanded Details


Gifts
Durant (1 CP)
  • Improved Durability vs Physical Harm (p228)
Eternal (3 CP)
  • Ignore physical and environmental conditions short of harm, resist pain. You can potentially stabilize from wounds that would be fatal otherwise.  You live on miraculous energy instead of food, water, air, ect. *Luna still has blood cravings, but doesn't depend on it, though her eventual Immortality will require blood*  Luna doesn't age. (p229)
Shapeshifter (1 CP)
  • Automatic speed allows shifting as part of other actions without miracle use. (p231)
  • Forms: Human/Vampire Original Shape, Bat, Black Fox, Mist, Hybridizations. She can also change her eye color, as well as the details of her clothing.
Gift (# CP)
  • Expanded Details




Lifepath Notes

Estate: Night

Key VI: Wild Oats - Key of Destiny Denied
Heart: Hunger
  • Lonely 'Bad Girl' Romantic
  • Love of the Night Life? (Estate is Something Lived)
  • I need their Blood. (Lived a Troubled Life)
  • I want to Love them. (Code of Hell)
Shadow: Why It Feels Empty
  • Difficulty Opening Up To Others (Alienation)
  • Powers are Forbidden to Love (Reverence of Purpose)
  • They can't really understand me... (Followers Contact [Her Collection of Blood-doners/lovers])


Key IX: Honeysuckle - Key of Something, Finally at Rest
Heart: My New Life
  • Charmingly Aloof and Benignly Rebellious
  • Carefully Hidden Soft Spots (Estate is Painful Side of Life)
  • A Protector (Trouble Inspired Me)
  • ???? (Legacy Contact: Elder Vampire)
Shadow: My Old Life
  • They Made Me What I Am (You are Something Cool)
  • I love the Night Life (Estate is Beautiful Side of Life)
  • The Vampires Took Advantage of Me (Some Scars Remain)
  • I Regret What He Made Me Do??? (Nemesis Contact: Former Sire)



Projects and Destiny
Total Personal Destiny00
Invested Personal Destiny00
Unspent Personal Destiny00

Project : (##/## Destiny)
  • Details

This message was last edited by the player at 07:51, Thu 13 Feb 2020.
Jimmy
player, 4 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 09:40
  • msg #53

Re: Out of Character Discussion

In reply to Luna Duscae (msg # 52):

I think the personal crescent is a pretty good bond idea.

Also i like the cousin.
Reyfus
player, 14 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 13:56
  • msg #54

Re: Out of Character Discussion

All: I'm SO GLAD that you guys are happy so far with what I wrote. I literally sat in front of my computer for hours yesrerday after work really hemming and hawing and hashing things out. Trying to get them just right and capture the feel I'm going for.

Luna: I'm definitely thinking our chancel has an active night life for sure. And chancel creation will be fun when we get to that. I think having some vampires there who are friendly to you is interesting too.

And yes...I see you caught that he has an excrucian estate. It's actually literally the same one as his father's although applied to him. I thought it would be a nice touch to highlight his heritage while still being well within the parameters of the rules and such. It's a side I'd like to grow over time which is why I kept it purposefully low given his shadows on his hollyhock key, but as he explores his other facets that side can and should grow over time.

And don't worry about the shine thing. This isn't a competition...you deserve to shine too! Rey has so much shine because he's high persona. You have it for different reasons; you don't shine because you're numinous, but because you're enthralling and charismatic and that aspect of you as a vampire got heightened by commencement. I guess you could say that while they both have high shine, it plays out differently.

For Reyfus, he straight up has the otherworldly beauty of an excrucian as well as the numinousness of an imperator. He's charismatic because his presence just takes up the room...and he really isn't trying. He's winging it. He doesn't fully understand all of his power and his potential yet. And his cult and others react to him like they would a god emerging from a closed lotus. He doesn't plan tactically as much as he should, or have strict manipulation or charisma directly but he is still radiant like the sun in his shine and is seeps into and infects everything connected to him.

For Luna, it's different. I envision her shine being a consequence of cunning and manipulative planning, combined with sheer unnatural charisma. It doesn't come from persona. It doesn't NEED persona. She is sexy and enthralling in a sort of ideal vampire way. And I also like the idea of her shine representing (in part) the bloodblond she has with her anchors too. That bond drives people to do things and to do them unnaturally well compared to normal people. It's like the blood is enthralling and empowering all at once.

Luna and Jimmy: Really glad you both like Lasentha. I thought hard about her too. I envision her personality as something like a (mostly) non-sociopathic version Harley Quinn from batman. Although when she's angered she basically getsinto sociopathic Harley mode on her oppressors. With her obsession for "Mister J" being for "mister Jimmy, albeit more aggressive than Harley has for joker as she's totally willing to initiate with Jimmy. Sort of like Harley Quinn mixed with Elmira from tiny toon adventures. :P
Luna Duscae
player, 29 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 14:41
  • msg #55

Re: Out of Character Discussion

I know the feeling of stressing about what you're writing and how people will take it :D  I like the Imperator stuff.

Yeah, I like the idea of a small community of Vampires who are actively, kinda like her, trying to  do the thing of actively protecting and or making their donor's lives better instead of just collecting fanatical attention and being kind of rock star night life folk who help themselves to whatever neck they happen to fancy.  She's not an Elder Vampire, and none of them were exactly sired by her, but she's kind of got comparable clout to one, now.

Kind of to her chagrin.  She wants out of that life, kinda.  (Buuuut she has to share the night life with them, and they made her what she is, and all of the other shadow 'but...' issues to wanting to elude that life.)

And yeah, I kind of see that. I also sort of liked the amusing fact that the idea of letting her drink someone's blood kind of can actively improve their mundane life XD. that interpretation of her Shine is pretty accurate.

I'm still struggling to word exactly what i mean by some things. I am tempted to try and shorthand the concept of her followers into a Vampiric 'harem', as she definitely does get physical with them (and yeah, it's pretty much exclusively women),  but it also is only like half-fulfilling for her, because of the whole 'failure of them to really comprehend her actual issues' so it's more of a case of them trading blood for her support and a guidance, and sometimes serving as an anchor.

I'm planning to go with the idea of 'creating a vampire calls for draining someone's blood, and replacing it with the vampire's own', so it's something she could still do, but not really a thing she wants to do, and not really something you do accidentally. I did like the idea that she uses her blood lightly in this way as part of claiming anchors - she just doesn't completely drain them, so they're connected to her, bound to her via guidance and potential possession, but they also don't become undead vampires or anything. (but when she channels herself through them as Possession they do exhibit vampiric traits and manifest her abilities)


Another thing I'm having trouble 'wording' is that whole 'rebellious' thing. It's very much intended to capture the feel of 'that tough-looking loner girl drinking alone and she looks like trouble and you're probably too intimidated to approach her, she's got a motorcycle and an issue with authority (especially abuse of authority) and she'll definitely floor anybody who tries to fuck with her.' sort of feel.  She is distinctly 'nicer than she looks' but she's got a 'tough and independent image'

She looks like she should smoke and drink and get in fights a lot, but she doesn't really do the former. She does drink, but with Durant/Eternal and being a Vampire, it doesn't do much to her (She does feel enough to appreciate, but not enough to impair her; it's better when she's sampling someone who's a bit tipsy than drinking herself, and totally prefers wine or cocktails to harder drinks). Fights, they happen, and that much is pretty true.

I think she might have a bit of a confusing infatuation with our Imperator, likely to no direct results, but I can oddly enough see her as capable of understanding Luna where not many others could - not that I see Evanessa as likely to return the interest (possibly without projects, if I pursue that idea?)  Might not be a good idea, leaving it open for commentary.


But yeah, largely trying to word a few things. I've already decided the miraculous things her motorcycle can do. I'm up for more Anchor Suggestions (and I'm okay with lowering her current anchor bonds a little if we need more points)

I wonder if she should have some sort of weapon, though as a vampire with aspect, and the option of using her bike as one, it'd probably be superficial unless the miraculous powers were more explicitly combat oriented.

I like the idea of the icon/ sigil thing for her, since it can be carved into something (and the tips can be stained with a drop of blood, so not hard to make with aspect) and it can be used to keep an eye on things.. though, I'm not strictly the biggest fan of that sort of anchor, so mixed feelings. I do think it will be her 'sigil' whether or not it's an anchor.

I don't have to spend it all at start, though I can. It's totally possible to claim and invoke anchors in play. It could be cool to do that some.
Reyfus
player, 15 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 17:27
  • msg #56

Re: Out of Character Discussion

At treasure 3, I'd personally like to see you with more anchors.

I think your sigil is a great idea. As an anchor you can use it as a symbol as well as something that maybe you wear as a necklace or carry around or something like that. The symbol could be drawn in other places of the world or maybe pictures of it posted or physical little statues of it somewhere or whatever. And those could be things that you could you don't possess or empower as anchors with the relevant miracles. I think it's a great idea and I hope you don't shy away from it. Hell maybe I'll get inspired and one day have a sigil too if yours plays out well enough!

Edit: you could even put it on business cards and now you have a way of connecting and spying on all sorts of people and places.

I definitely think you should put a one-point Bond of how you hate your sire. You don't have to make an anchor out of him or anything right now. But I really think that it would be representative of you and something that you could draw on four strings in a contest related to him.

For the motorcycle I think you should consider some sort of Main power focused on its mobility or something like that rather than using it as a weapon. And I'm getting the feeling that you are hesitating on this as well. if you would like some sort of weapon or something like that that would be a good excuse for another anchor. Then again you also have aspect 3 so you don't really need a weapon LOL. if it is a weapon though it should be something really meaningful. It doesn't have to be like a soul carving sword or anything. But maybe like a silver sword that belonged to your sire once or that you got in the fight maybe when there was a vampire versus werewolf fight back when you were just a vampire that was really important and people that you cared about died in it. Something like that.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:38, Thu 13 Feb 2020.
Luna Duscae
player, 30 posts
Thu 13 Feb 2020
at 19:28
  • msg #57

Re: Out of Character Discussion

The whole vampire v werewolf thing always felt contrived to me :D

Definitely more anchors, that's my plan. As for the motorcycle being able to do a ton of things, any anchor can "be an effective weapon" with treasure 5 miracles :D  At least in miraculous conflict.

I did have myself pretty set that the main thing it has going for it is physics-defying tricks and the like,  manifested in a few ways, mostly in the driving, but also being able to pack more cargo than a motorcycle should, and being able to navigate  more dimensionally, in addition to crazy 'driving on walls tricks' and such :D

But yeah, I definitely like the sigil idea, I had a thought of earrings actually, but yeah :D.

Got prep to do for somethigng tonight, so more work on this tomorrow from me. Saturday is pretty tied up too, unfortunately.  Friday, though, I plan to get something more done. Still open to input though.

One point bond hating Sire could be good.
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