Here's the Lifepath, I'm not always sure if I will make a troubled life or an extraordinary Life.

I like the Idea of an Apollo in love with her, not knowing he's a not a woman. An Apollo that gave her some gift (divination) but cursed him to refused his love (his divinations will not be trusted).

Or(and ?) he can bear a very strong secret about the creator itself and that's why he's the Power of Hidden Truth : to help her to bear this burden, and keep it secret.

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Lifepath Notes

Estate: Hidden Truth

Key: III Acacia. A dangerous secret

• Keeping God's Secret
• More than anything else, I'm just plain weird
• My Estate is from the Dark side of human experience
• (I'm still in Trouble ?)

Shadow. That hurt to keep

• Painfull Silence
• set apart
• (nemesis ?) (an ennemy Excrucian ?)

Key: XI Wild Rose. My Nature

• Freak
• My Estate is something you live
• I lived a troubled life (or extraordinary life ?)
• I sing the song of the Wild

Shadow. My strugle

• Trying to fit in
• self doubt

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As I said, last week was quite full. Now I focus into the reading of the book and the character creation. It's not easy without a personal thread actually (if HG can create them…)

I think it would be nice to have a separate thread to discuss about the Chancel, so we don't mess with all the subjects. It would really be easier for me. (Even if we were writing in French, that's not the language the problem)

In reply to Cassandra (msg # 84):

That's definitely doable. It's past time in fact, I think, that I go ahead and expand this into a few separate threads for finalizing the characters, chancel, and collating information. I'll get on that today. (Don't worry, I have a lot more input on various things, but I'll get to that as I expand this board.)

I've been hesitant, but I'm willing to set the game to Adult, I just need to double-check the process of changing the rating here and see if there's any additional vetting RpoL will require on my part before doing so.

RPOL automatically vets now. It has made all of us at some time in the past declare if we're adult or not.

Under user preferences it should say if you've been granted adult access or not. And I think it automatically prevents you from being in an adult game.

Also Cassandra nice to have ya back with us again. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 20:31, Mon 17 Feb 2020.

It will ask us to confirm our DoB automatically, you need do nothing but turn the setting over, HG.  Remember that Group 0 Threads are still publically viewable, so keep thread group in mind.

Some thoughts on Cassandra:

I'm not sure there's 100% a specific deity but you can absolutely be keeping a secret from someone major. Maybe not Lord Entropy, but there are some other big figures. I might suggest Anada.  Powers don't really get granted power from higher beings so much as become symbiotic extensions of an Imperator. Mind, if your prophetic powers have another source, that could be interesting...

Once you make those various lifepath calls, you'll want to turn each point under a heart to a factor or quality relevant to the heart of that key, and each of the shadow points to one that reflects the things that complicate or get in the way of what they key represents.

(For example a good idea behind the Shadow of your Acacia key is to come up with reasons  that keeping the secret is so painful, or that motivate you to keep the secret, or that represent why you want to reveal it but can't.)



Breaking the discussion into threads sounds good to me :D

Glad to see our HG and Cass both lively :D

Honestly Lord entropy is not infallible or perfect. people keep secrets from him all the time. For example you know damn sure a lot of people are breaking the rule about falling in love lol. if you want to keep a secret from him then by all means go for it but you probably will need an affliction with a relatively high rating like three plus for that to be viable.

As it happens, at least one player doesn't have access to the Adult section of RPoL at this time. If that changes (they may simply not yet have requested access), I'll adjust it, but for now, I hope folks are okay with working within the mature rating?

I'm setting up an Imperator and Chancel topic now for the binding elements of the Familia Caelestis. I'll set up individual topics for each player character for discussion and finalization. I figured I'd leave them in Group 1, unless you folks would prefer to make those private threads?

I'm ok with public private threads. It's still cool if other players can make bonds with their own characters or give inspiration. But I admit that my own Estate is by essence not really easy to let in public ^^

In reply to Cassandra (msg # 90):

If there are elements folks want to keep private, private messages and an extra, private thread are still options. ^.^

Probably going to err on the side of several specific threads (Imperator and Chancel each having their own threads, each player character, and a thread collecting brief details on a cast of mentioned NPCs and contacts.) We'll see if that gets too cluttered and ends up needing to be merged.

Sorry, I didn't see this message. The problem of too long posts, we don't see what was for us ^^

Thank you, but … no. I'm not interested by the concept. My idea of transgender with Hidden Truth is not compatible in my mind with the fluidity of genre (it's not truth if it changes at will) nor with the operation (it's not hidden anymore). And I want to explore this character by myself ;)


Exact ! No problem to keep it open to the group then.

In reply to Cassandra (msg # 92):

No problem. Was just wanting to offer that to you to see if you liked it or not.

And how about the chancel so far? Are you liking the direction the discussion on that has been going?

I didn't read all, TMI…

Is the basic concept about a "roman noir" ambience ? I like this inspiration. It fits our Estates perfectly. Casablanca, Sin City, it's ok for me.

fun fact : in my former Nobilis game here, we had a black and white Chancel, inspired by Metropolis.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:49, Tue 18 Feb 2020.

In reply to Cassandra (msg # 94):

I've just re-posted (copypasted) the Chancel description thus far in its own topic, so hopefully that will help. ^.^

My evening is unfortunately busy, I'll be free later to work on stuff :D

In reply to Cassandra (msg # 94):

I highly suggest you read the chancel description that was ported to the new thread by the GM. I even put a location in there that focuses on you - the Librarium - and would love either your buy-in and/or feedback.

And you're close about the chancel. It's neo-noir overall, as it has more modernity to it although some parts of it definitely resemble the earlier 1900's like the Lounge is definitely inspired by the 1940's or 1950's.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:21, Tue 18 Feb 2020.

Phew. Specific character threads are up. You guys *should* be able to edit them.

Cassandra, just let me know which spelling you're going with.

Next I'll gather up a little Dramatis Personae of NPCs that have been mentioned thus far and that you folks might still have in mind.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:04, Tue 18 Feb 2020.

I'm reading the kickstarter pre-release version of Jenna Moran's Glitch, and immediately noticed an interesting tidbit: In it, the Magisters of Dark and Light are now referred to as Lords of the Game and Lords of the Rules, respectively.

getting freed up. Don't have access to Glitch stuff, but neat. :D Will be able to start contributing shortly :D

I didn't know she was working on anything new. I'll have to check it out.

Also I got Reyfus converted into the new sheet format, with a few of my own tweeks like I added contacts for instance.

I also decided to focus in on his theme of having untold potential but still being nascent and new. So I set his treasure to 0, and lowered his cult bond by 1 to reflect this, and set persona to 5. He now has more Deviance than even our Imperator. He is the living avatar of it. And this is important, because it was only through a once in a lifetime interaction of Evanessa's Deviance estate and Locke's Curiosity that was able to make the impossible be possible and give birth to Reyfus. However, he still has Horror and the Society of Eurytos as Anchors. As Treasure increases, I intend to get him a sigil and other anchors but for now he's purposefully looking under-developed in that area compared to someone with more mature bonds like Luna.

So he (sometimes literally) shines like the sun as a proto-divinity, and divine power just drips off of him, but the reality is that even though he's 80 years old he is not human and was never human and has a different life cycle as the only one of his kind. Relative to his cycle, he's only very recently become a young adult. He was born in 1940 and remembers bits of the start of world war 2 and the roaring fifties and all that, but he was a child longer than a human is a child, and was a teenager (and QUITE the handful for the Imperator, the powers, and the chancel at that) for longer than a human normally is one, and has only been an adult for like maybe 5 years. Aged from baby to like roughly 5 years old and then his development slowed since 1945. He aged about 1 human year for every 5 real years that passed and this growth cycle was protected/enforced by his freak of nature affliction. He will now stop aging physically but only just recently became an adult and his power is still nascent and growing.

And yes, he was and still is a mama's boy. But he was something of a troublemaker mixed with a brat although did have a bright and charismatically cheerful personality as a child. He was everything endearing and terrifying about a child, although even younger he supported the chancel though in his own childlike ways and spent his time between his father on earth and mother in Vespera. He was roughly 11 physiologically and psychologically (in the year 1975 if my math is correct) when he killed Locke. As he became a teenager, be became more withdrawn and brooding, and did lash out sometimes at just about everyone - allied powers, chancel inhabitants, shadowcats that even looked at him funny, and also cultists and such on earth but he never hurt Evanessa. He sees her as the one truly innocent person in the whole sordid affair. But as he became an older teenager (like the equivalent of 15 years old) puberty set in and he began to mellow out and stop lashing out so much and take an active interest in others - both male and female. He also became more thoughtful and ponderous, and while he still has a meddling, trickster side he is now filled with existential self-doubt about himself and what he should do with his future...classical traits of transitioning from childhood into adulthood. He physically and psychologically is around 20 years old now in human terms. The Society of Eurytos and of course his mother have picture books of him from every year since 1940 when he was born.

So as an adult, he's only just starting to be more forgiving and open to the Society of Eurytos and anyone else involved in his legacy contact, and is seeing that he needs to branch out and not be completely self-absorbed. You know...take on adult responsibilities. That is the core of his project right now to increase his treasure rating from 0 to 1.

How does one request an adult rating?

Per this: link to a message in another game

"4. All users who wish to have adult access will need to provide an age statement / age of majority statement which requests access to the adult section.  This will be automatically requested whenever you try to access an adult game (outside of the game introduction and group 0/public threads), or you can do it from "User Preferences".  At that point your adult access will change to "pending".  This submission will be put into a queue which will be reviewed by myself and the other moderators.  This statement will either be approved or denied depending upon the statement provided.

Only a member who has an account that is over two weeks old can request adult access. "

So are we thinking of a fairly recent 'start' for our group? Maybe we've only all come together and really formed our chancel in about the last five years? Luna's 33 years old (she became a vampire and hasn't aged beyond 21, though) that gives her about 6-7 years as a vampire before she became a power, which feels good to me.

Luna has almost as much shine and magnetism as he does, though, handled in a different way, with a different finesse, and alongside vampiric charisma that can be more subtle than his shine.  It seems like she's the most physically adept of the familia, with her moderately good aspect score, which has subsumed a lot of her former vampiric strength.

I can imagine that she has a bit of reluctant big? sister going on with Reyfus, I've imagined her being friendly with Excrucian cuz, but TOTALLY not getting her attraction to Jimmy. Might help her with some of her schemes involving him though.

With Kassandra, I can imagine a few interactions, but I need to know more about what kind of expression  you put forward generally before I know what makes the most sense to suggest. I can see some degree of confusion on Luna's part, though, flirting if she perceives female, or not if she doesn't, with some sort of confusion with more androgynous perceptions. Regardless, I love this mental image of 'how luna feels about them' being along the lines of 'I like them, I don't really understand them, but I guess we have that in common - people don't really 'get' either of us' - a bit of comraderie, perhaps, but also a bit of hesitation with the whole hidden truths estate.  I don't want to pitch anything specific until I have a better understanding of what Kass expresses as, and such.

That said, Luna is pretty exclusively into women. I'm thinking part of that is just her inclinations, and part of it is probably past trauma she's put behind her but it's shaped her tastes. She doesn't hold anything personal against men, she just finds it harder to be close to them.

I'd like our chancel to be older - at least a century and maybe some sort of improvement or overwriting of something from a previous time that the imperator had to update to make it more fit to protect her for the war.

I suppose I'm not 100% married to that though or ready to dig my heels in but it seems weird to have a chancel that's only 5 or 10 years old. Maybe Evanessa was in an older, less secure chancel (had crappy auctoritas, got ravaged by excrucian attacks or perhaps a pyrric victory she had over a rival imperator's chancel that left the old one scoured heavily of potency, etc) and maybe it had to be "re-coded" and thus she had to do the creation rite again - including paying the steep cost of lives/broken hearts/whatever.

Now THAT I could be on board with.

I like the idea of an older chancel, too, but I like the idea of when Luna became a part of it she needed to 'attune herself' to it, maybe, allowing her to invest some sort of cost into the place to connect herself to it (and maybe that is when the vampiric concessions began to emerge, maybe they weren't fully there before :D)

I definitely would be supportive of us having had to do another chancel rite for [insert whatever reason here that fits]. Like I said I'm not digging my heels in. I guess I think having both the old and the new in the chancel's history is more appealing to me for some reason.

And if luna is the cause of needing re-attunement then it would only make sense the imperator dumped the task of securing payment onto her as well. It even fits your bond of her pushing you lol.