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The Last Ancient
 GM, 2 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Tue 14 Jul 2020
at 21:09
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Welcome!
Seraphina
 player, 1 post
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 01:59
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Hi all.

Figured a quick introduction would help.  Seraphina is a young human woman with a penchant for all things rough and tumble arcane magic that is expedient to cast in a fight (preferably with a flame or fire trapping).  You could call her a "magus" or "battle mage" type character, not really excelling at either but blending both.

She's a little tight lipped about her past, preferring to talk about her adventures, which only accounts for the last few years.  But there's a lot of subtle clues:  excellent table manners, favoring long, impractical hairstyles, knowledge of heraldry, always trying to color coordinate.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 7 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 04:50
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Hey everyone!

We have 3 players so far, definitely not bad for the first day, hopefully one or two more apply by tomorrow and we can get started!

As the game intro said, IC everyone has already known each other for about a week at least, having battled together against various undead monsters and such. You guys are welcome to discuss anything that may have happened over the past week that drew you guys closer etc
Velvet
 player, 1 post
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 05:02
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Heya;

I suspect that Seraphina and Velvet are gonna get along famously!  While Velvet is a lower-class kinda girl (barely into developing her back-story, though), she also tends to present a boisterous adventurer persona to hide her grief, shame... all the negative crap she doesn't know how to deal with.  So... powderkeg in the making?  probably!  "Fight hard, drink hard."  That's her motto today.
Marcus Coventry
 player, 1 post
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 15:00
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Hi all,

Your latest edition here, with Marcus Coventry, another spell caster. But I'm going to be a wand slinger, which is Weird Science, but describing it as me using an assortment of wands that allow me to channel my spells.

I need to think about what spells I want, but if Seraphina is going down the blasting fire mage route, I was thinking I could be more support magic? Wouldn't want to clash, when there are lots of options out there.

Downside with Weird Science is I have 2 spells to start with, but I do have more PP, when compared with Magic/Miracle. So it could be I go for 1 support and 1 aggressive spell, allowing my PP to keep me blasting longer?
Or double support, and it means I can keep spells up longer?

One idea I had was Darksight, to help us see underground/at night, and then adding the modifiers Hurry and Shroud.
For 5 people would cost 7PP, and for an hour let us ignore 4 points of illumination (6 with a raise and see in total darkness), give us +2 pace, have -1 penalty to attack us, and +1 to stealth rolls.
Like having a watered down, but longer lasting, Deflection and Speed cast on us.
Seraphina
 player, 2 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 15:31
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Most of mine are going to be things that benefit someone who fights up close (like Deflection as "Flame Shield"), though down the road a fireball type effect is certainly not out of the question.  Seraphina mostly casts spells on herself and anyone who might wade into the fray with her rather than casting them on enemies, if that makes any sense.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 8 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 15:43
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As a reminder to everyone, you have 4 advances. 3 for novice rank, and then 1 for having achieved seasoned rank.

Iíll be looking over character sheets later tonight, but Iíll have my phone on me and Iíll be replying to any questions all day today. No rush to finish your sheet though, we have plenty of time!

EDIT: Also, starting funds are doubled since we are at seasoned rank :)

This message was last edited by the GM at 15:45, Wed 15 July 2020.

Seraphina
 player, 3 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 16:02
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Yeah I did a quick draft but I'll probably be revising it a bit before I'm done with it.  I often like to throw it down on the page then tweak it, SW characters being so simple to create it's easier that way then meticulously planning it ahead of time.
Maya Lailah
 player, 1 post
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 16:26
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Hello all, your friendly neighbourhood healer here.

I'll admit, I don't have much experience with Savage Worlds, but what I did experience I enjoyed.
Marcus Coventry
 player, 2 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 17:00
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Welcome aboard Maya.

If you want any help, I'm sure we can help :)
Heia Noelani
 player, 1 post
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 17:04
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Do you have a blank version of the character sheets you can drop in the field, so we can all use the same format?
Marcus Coventry
 player, 3 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 17:09
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I made this for friends doing a 50 Fathoms game, but I made a template, as well as having a summary for character creation and advancement.

https://docs.google.com/docume...Aw/edit?usp=drivesdk
The Last Ancient
 GM, 9 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 17:42
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I donít have a specific character sheet format but whatever you guys decide on works!
Seraphina
 player, 4 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 17:50
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I was going to say I usually just type mine, maybe do a little formatting but nothing elaborate

Probably the fanciest thing I do is put an audit trail at the end so I remember what I spent my advances on
Maya Lailah
 player, 2 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 18:25
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I want to play a magical healer with darkness-themed powers. Does anyone have recommendations?
Marcus Coventry
 player, 4 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 18:54
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What type of darkness vibe are you wanting?
  • Blind, which needs no elaboration?
  • Bolt, shooting darkness at people?
  • Darksight, to see through the darkness?
  • Deflection, making people harder to be seen and thus hit?
  • Fear, to represent the fear of the dark?
  • Light/Darkness, which you could have the limitation for Darkness only, but lower it to 1PP?


Also, in terms of healing, you might be interested in relief too, as removing fatigue and shaken can help prevent people getting wounds.
Heia Noelani
 player, 2 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 18:58
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If it helps you sort out what powers to take I already have the following list that are able to target others.

Deflection, Boost/Lower, Protection, Sloth/Speed
Marcus Coventry
 player, 5 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 19:01
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Are most of us coming with an Arcane Background?

And with four powers, are you also using Weird Science Heia, and taking New Powers? Or another AB, and used one of the powers from New Powers to add another trapping?
Seraphina
 player, 5 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 19:36
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Heia Noelani:
If it helps you sort out what powers to take I already have the following list that are able to target others.

Deflection, Boost/Lower, Protection, Sloth/Speed


haha I think we may be making the same character.

Boost/Lower Trait
Damage Field
Protection
Smite
Sloth/Speed

Maybe I should be more blasty than smashy and trade Sloth/Speed for Blast since I was thinking about taking it anyway, though it doesn't hurt to double or triple up on some powers because there's only so many power points, and casting Protection with the Toughness modifier is especially expensive.  Also multiple Boosts doesn't hurt because people can Boost different things.

As for darkness based healing, I usually work backwards.  For example, I want to be able to restore the flesh of others to its unwounded state but at the cost of my own life force might be my trapping, then I may work backwards from there.  Like in my example, that's the Healing power, but maybe I pick a trapping that does Fatigue damage if I roll badly, but in exchange I get some other effect I work out with the GM.
Seraphina
 player, 6 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 19:54
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Apologies for double post, but I may switch to a straight up warrior type.  It was the other idea I almost pitched.  The name and general concept and roleplaying personality of the character still work, the mechanics will just be different.
Heia Noelani
 player, 3 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 21:30
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Of those powers only Speed and Protection stack with themselves in any way.  As I plan to start most any fight with a speed effect on everyone I can get with it you could easily swap that out for something more fitting to whatever style you want to go with.
Seraphina
 player, 7 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 22:08
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Also, I didn't realize we were going to be six.  Hi people! I'll stick to the original idea, it's fine to dupe stuff when there's more people.
Marcus Coventry
 player, 6 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 22:22
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I'm looking at the following spells (new power twice):
  • Arcane Protection
  • Boost/Lower Trait
  • Darksight
  • Deflection
  • Entangle
  • Havoc

My 20 power points will likely run dry quickly from all of them, but that means I either risk Shorting, or have to be tactical about what I cast and when.
Heia Noelani
 player, 4 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 23:04
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If you want to save power points pick up a non combat utility power, something that does a lot of work but isn't build for fighting or surviving.
Seraphina
 player, 8 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 23:17
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I think that's a good mix personally.  I'll play with mine some more.
Heia Noelani
 player, 5 posts
Wed 15 Jul 2020
at 23:48
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I think I will take my own advice and swap one of the overlapping powers for Healing

Let me know if one of you wants to have either deflection or protection on your end, I will use the other one but not have both.

This message was last edited by the player at 16:48, Sat 18 July 2020.

Maya Lailah
 player, 3 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 03:18
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I made a hack of the character sheet, and I'm about halfway done.
Velvet
 player, 2 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 05:40
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Am I the only non-magical practitioner among the group?

This message was last edited by the player at 05:49, Thu 16 July 2020.

Marcus Coventry
 player, 7 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 10:17
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It depends on our sixth player, but possibly, yes Velvet, you are the only non-arcane member of the group.

It also means you are more likely to have a wider range of skills / edges than us, depending on how much we focus on our arcane abilities.

I have gone hard on my arcane abilities, raising my linked attribute and skill, having more power points, and more powers. I've not been improving my non-magic side at all.

As I'm low strength, I don't need expensive weapons and armour. So, I'm not sure what to really spend my money on. Otherwise, my sheet is complete and ready for review.
Maya Lailah
 player, 4 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 16:46
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Any recommendations on spending money?

I've got a staff, robes, a backpack a first aid kit, clothes, and some food (though I'll likely have to have our beefier party members hold onto it because my frail ass won't be able to carry it.
Velvet
 player, 3 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 18:31
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That's what horses are for!  So you don't have to carry it all.

Don't know how much of this game will involve traveling great distances, so don't know if it's worth the price or not...
Seraphina
 player, 9 posts
Thu 16 Jul 2020
at 23:49
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It depends on how the GM handle things, Savage Worlds tends to be pretty minimal in terms of backpacks and gears and logistics, but it doesn't have to be.

I tentatively have chain mail, shield and a longsword, that spends most of my money and puts me in spitting distance of encumbrance, lol.
Velvet
 player, 4 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 01:16
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Well, if you guys aren't taking horses, then I guess I don't need to.    I'm pleased to save myself the coin.

Besides, with the difference in price between Adventurer's Edition Core and Fantasy Core Explorer's edition, my bow costs as much as my horse.  I'm very pleased to drop one of them...  cause, you know... the bow might feed me.  The horse won't.
Maya Lailah
 player, 5 posts
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 01:21
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Hey GM, would owning a horse be to our benefit or would it be just something extra for everyone to keep track of?
The Last Ancient
 GM, 11 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 01:51
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For this adventure, you guys wonít be needing horses, however I do plan on the world being fairly vast and you guys are welcome to explore and take things in whatever direction you want to. For now donít worry about horses Iíve decided, we will handle that later after we conclude this adventure.

Iíll be looking over private messages in a bit and replying, as well as checking sheets.

Iím hoping we can get started this weekend!
Marcus Coventry
 player, 8 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 08:20
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What about backpacks, tents, supplies, etc?

I know we've been together a week, and are at an inn. Depending what we have been doing, sch as staying to main roads, we wouldn't have wilderness gear. Conversely, if we're expecting to go off the grid to stop the necromancer, then wilderness gear makes sense.
Alexis De Winter
 player, 1 post
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 14:15
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I'm working on my character sheet today. Yesterday turned out to be a blur of appointments and house hunting.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 12 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Fri 17 Jul 2020
at 15:31
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Backpacks, tents, food, etc are good things to pick up, you can also just save the money and rent a room once your services are no longer required or you move on to another place. This particular adventure all takes place in one night, so other than torches ropes etc other items may not find a use (then again players always do find uses for the oddest things).
Maya Lailah
 player, 6 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 03:33
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Okay, wanna take a look at my character sheet (or do I PM it?)
The Last Ancient
 GM, 13 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 04:25
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Iíll check everyoneís sheet through the GM side of things and let anyone know if thereís any issues with their sheets :)
Heia Noelani
 player, 6 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 06:09
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Fairly sure I am done fiddling with mine now.
Seraphina
 player, 10 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 16:12
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Cool, I need to work on descriptive elements and whatnot but I think I figured out a good mechanics list, changed a couple of powers and took some I don't normally take
The Last Ancient
 GM, 14 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Sun 19 Jul 2020
at 02:09
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Hey everyone, long day at work today so I didnít get to finish looking at everyoneís sheets, but I will be doing so either tonight or tomorrow, and also posting more world information but that will likely not be done until Monday, which is also the day I hope to get things started IC.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 15 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Mon 20 Jul 2020
at 03:54
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Checked everyoneís sheets and we are good to go!

I will be posting some more information in the campaign thread and start our first IC thread tomorrow! Thanks everyone for getting the sheets done so quickly
The Last Ancient
 GM, 18 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:38
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IC post will be up in a few hours once Iím off work!
Marcus Coventry
 player, 11 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 11:23
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My first spellcasting roll (though realise now I should have said Weird Science...), and I managed to roll a pair of 3's!
At least we weren't in combat, so I would have time to try again, without needing to spend a benny.

Figure having an hour long spell up might be helpful...
Heia Noelani
 player, 8 posts
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 14:40
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Two questions about that.

How did you get Darksight to give you a defense bonus?
And why cast it on only yourself?

And on that note is Seraphina drunk enough to have actual penalties, or just playing up a bit of a buzz?

This message was last edited by the player at 14:43, Thu 23 July 2020.

Marcus Coventry
 player, 12 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 14:59
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In reply to Heia Noelani (msg # 47):

I used the General Modifiers on p152 - These can be applied to any power, within context. So for Darksight, Shroud and Hurry would be eligible.
If I were to cast Bolt, as it having the possible modifier for increased damage at +2PP, Armour Piercing, Heavy Weapon or Lingering Damage could be added too.

As for why only myself - Doing it on everyone would cost an extra 5PP, and then cost 6PP/hour to maintain, if we spend more than an hour in the sewers/adventuring. Without knowing what we might run into, I don't want to run dry too fast.
Maya Lailah
 player, 9 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 15/20
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 15:07
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I got you guys covered.
Heia Noelani
 player, 9 posts
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 15:57
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Page numbers are mostly useless as there are to many versions of the book, but are you sure you are looking at one of the Adventure Edition ones, that sounds more like an old Savage Worlds mechanic that didn't stick around in the new version.
Maya Lailah
 player, 10 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 15/20
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 16:03
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"Glow/Shroud (+1)
Glow gives off soft light of an appropriate
color for its Trapping (or casterís
choice). This creates soft light in a
Small Blast Template centered on the
target, and lasts until the power expires.
It subtracts 2 from her Stealth totals and
negates 1 point of Illumination
penalties for those attacking the
glowing character.
Shroud dims and slightly obscures the
target so that attacks against her suffer a −1
penalty and she adds +1 to her Stealth rolls."

He's making himself extra gloomy so enemies have a penalty to hit him.

And page 152 is the same one I've got.
Marcus Coventry
 player, 13 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 16:06
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Cover of my book: https://drive.google.com/file/...gi/view?usp=drivesdk

Power modifiers: https://drive.google.com/file/...-l/view?usp=drivesdk

Whilst there may be errata, I'm on v5.4, and as Maya has the same thing, it's definitely in SWADE.
Heia Noelani
 player, 11 posts
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 16:07
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Interesting, my book has that on a different page, and for whatever reason didn't show up in a text search, likely because the title is power modifiers, not general modifiers.
Alexis De Winter
 player, 4 posts
Thu 23 Jul 2020
at 16:12
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I may be out of commission starting tomorrow morning for a day or two. I am having some minor surgery.
Seraphina
 player, 12 posts
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 00:48
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Heia Noelani:
And on that note is Seraphina drunk enough to have actual penalties, or just playing up a bit of a buzz?


The latter, though if the GM wants to give me a penalty that's okay =D
Marcus Coventry
 player, 14 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 09:13
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The Last Ancient:
OOC: There is only enough space in the sewers for one party member to stand, so party order is very important as you guys will have to form a single file line with little room to maneuver.


This feels better to discuss here.

Who is hard to get hit/hurt, and be at the front?
Who is good up close?

I imagine my Havoc spell, cast as a cone, would be good at blasting away anything that tries to come at us down there?
The Last Ancient
 GM, 20 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 15:02
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Anyone who decides they are drunk can take -2 to smarts but +2 to vigor.

For players sake, the GM manual has informed me that any ďaoeĒ actions are likely to affect the players as well or cause unintended consequences due to the confined nature of the tunnel. Just letting you guys know that ahead of time since Iíd hate to be the GM that lets you guys do something and then punishes you for it after the fact ;P

I will say if you succeed with a raise Iíll say things work out to where no one is injured, and any negative effects are not to bad.
Maya Lailah
 player, 11 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 15/20
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 15:32
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If you do have AOE powers, be sure to use the Selective option. It's only 1 extra power point.
Seraphina
 player, 14 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 17:39
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Marcus Coventry:
Who is hard to get hit/hurt, and be at the front?
Who is good up close?


Yeah I need to update my bio and description

But for now I'm at Parry 9 and Toughness 8, now someone smack me down and tell how me you're better!

The Last Ancient:
Anyone who decides they are drunk can take -2 to smarts but +2 to vigor.



I might be tempted but I just got cured.  I usually check OOC before IC so I don't always know what happened!
Heia Noelani
 player, 12 posts
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 17:54
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I am distinctly not better, but I will be making you better at the first sign of trouble, you go do your tank thing, I will stay in the middle and stay 'useful'.
Alexis De Winter
 player, 6 posts
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 20:25
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Alexis is a pretty standard rogue in a lot of ways so...definitely not up front if it's not for scouting.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 21 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Sat 25 Jul 2020
at 23:47
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Date with the fiancť tonight but will post when I get a chance!

If someone wants to post a party order while Iím gone itíll speed things up, or I can figure it out when I get back no worries either way haha
Alexis De Winter
 player, 8 posts
Mon 27 Jul 2020
at 21:42
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Velvet, looks like the dice roller thought you were me.
Velvet
 player, 8 posts
Mon 27 Jul 2020
at 22:20
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What really gets me is that I was moving a Mutants and masterminds game I run forward through combat, and rolled a bunch of NPC stuff...  and I rolled like four natural 20s in a row.  For NPCs.  Such a waste!   Doesn't seem to happen when I actually care about it...
Alexis De Winter
 player, 9 posts
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 17:03
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First day back to work after procedure, I'll try to post but I'm definitely drained already and only halfway through my day.
Seraphina
 player, 17 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 22:19
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Is it super narrow in here all the way in?  I'm asking because I'm considering casting Deflection, but there may be no point in casting it on others if I'm the only target, if that makes sense.  It would make sense to cast it on me and the person directly behind him, if we could ever decide who that is lol
Heia Noelani
 player, 16 posts
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 22:22
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At this point we don't know what kind of ranged weapons they have, if you have a good roll and want to burn the points I don't think anyone will refuse deflection, but this may also be just a warm up encounter.
Seraphina
 player, 18 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 22:23
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Yeah but if they have ranged weapons, I'm the target lol
The Last Ancient
 GM, 24 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Tue 28 Jul 2020
at 23:18
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Yes, the hall is still really narrow, Iíll let yíall know when it opens up!
The Last Ancient
 GM, 25 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Thu 30 Jul 2020
at 19:01
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Update today around 5pm, apologies for the wait guys!
Maya Lailah
 player, 15 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Fri 31 Jul 2020
at 00:22
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Reminder, we all have +4 Armour from my spell.
Maya Lailah
 player, 16 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 00:16
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Hey Velvet, you should roll an extra D6 for your damage since you got a Raise to your hit.
Velvet
 player, 11 posts
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 00:20
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Thanks!

I'm brand new to Savage Worlds and playing off of a PDF to boot, so I'll take all the help I can get...

Still, 12 damage ain't nothing to sneeze at.  I'm happy.
Maya Lailah
 player, 18 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 02:42
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Re: Seraphina: At least you did enough damage to shake it (3+2+1+2 = 8>7).

How does damage work if you shake it then shake it again if it's already got a wound?
Alexis De Winter
 player, 11 posts
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 03:39
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Is the area small enough to grab the walls and ignore the rats from above?
Seraphina
 player, 21 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 11:46
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Maya Lailah:
Re: Seraphina: At least you did enough damage to shake it (3+2+1+2 = 8>7).

How does damage work if you shake it then shake it again if it's already got a wound?


If it's just got a wound, but isn't currently shaken (for example the target passes its Spirit roll on its initiative and rids itself of the Shaken condition), it becomes shaken again and still has the wound.

If it is currently shaken with a wound, it cannot become double shaken so the effect may cause an additional Wound.  It is up to the GM to interpret, but for example if Player 1 uses Intimidate to cause the Shaken condition and then player 2 uses a non lethal stun power to make it Shaken again, that shouldn't cause a wound; in essence the second maneuver may have been a waste.  But if Player 1 uses Intimidate to cause the Shaken Condition and Player 2 hits with a sword for enough damage to render it shaken (normally), that should cause a wound.

I will admit this system really works better in person with a physical shaken token you can pass back and forth.
Heia Noelani
 player, 17 posts
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 13:02
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The shaken condition is a bit transient for powerful, or tough, targets but it really just represents the value of concentrated fire in an initiative system.  As long as the team can focus fire each round the recovery is a minimal problem.
Seraphina
 player, 22 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 13:26
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Heia Noelani:
The shaken condition is a bit transient for powerful, or tough, targets but it really just represents the value of concentrated fire in an initiative system.  As long as the team can focus fire each round the recovery is a minimal problem.


Also a valid point.

Shaken has been a contentious subject in SW from the beginning.  On the one hand it's a good idea because real fights often effectively "end" because participants lose the nerve or ability to continue (there's research that claims in battle most soldiers never even fire their weapon for example), but it's also frustrating for players to track the status of the condition and in older editions you could easily lose most of your actions.  The problem with it now is the condition isn't as powerful as it once was and it dis-incentivizes taking powers like Stun.

It's still powerful, especially if you can make an especially tough target or multiple targets Shaken.  The mechanic is intended to make it such that a character using powers or tricks or other less direct offense directly enhances the efforts of a character using conventional attacks, and it's a little hard sometimes to get that across in play by post.

I often get the Shaken rules wrong because I've been through like 3 different versions of it, lol
The Last Ancient
 GM, 27 posts
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 Elder Race
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 16:31
Re: Out Of Context
So in previous editions the way the shaken rules worked was if you were shaken (0-3 points damage over your toughness) it meant on the next turn the character was unable to act unless they got a raise on their spirit roll, in which case they could recover from being shaken and act. If you only had a success on your spirit roll you were no longer shaken but could not act on your turn besides moving.

EX: Skeleton was shaken by taking 5 damage, he has a (4 toughness), on his next turn he is able to roll a 4 on his spirit roll so he is no longer shaken but cannot act or do anything. If he had rolled an 8, he could act AND no longer be shaken.

However, Savage Worlds is all about FAST, FURIOUS, FUN. The developed realized  players donít like not being able to act on their turn, and weíre getting complaints from GMs and players alike about how spirit was becoming a ďdump statĒ, because anyone who didnít have a high spirit would routinely find themselves shaken every turn, would ďunshakeĒ themselves, only to be ďreshakenĒ in the course of the very next round, creating a loop of never being able to act.

So in Adventure edition they changed the rules so that you only had to succeed in order to act.

Now, if someone is shaken and takes damage that puts them over their toughness, they take a wound. While in some contexts this may not appear to make sense I usually find a way for it to make sense. So yes, in theory you could taunt someone until they become incapacitated, IC this would mean they are so ashamed of themselves or something that they flee or otherwise surrender during the fight, which ever makes more sense.

Also, if you wish to attempt to climb the walls Iíll need an athletics roll -2 because of all the muck and grime and water (or other messy things) the line the sewer wall.

This message was last edited by the GM at 16:33, Sun 02 Aug 2020.

Heia Noelani
 player, 18 posts
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 17:10
Re: Out Of Context
The change in mechanics aside the paradigm of shaken is about the same.  To me it has always seemed like it made perfect sense.

When you are shaken you become distracted, by pain, taunting, or some form of trickery.  That effectively lets anyone who attacks you face an at least partially surprised target, someone unable to avoid attacks as easily.  That effectively translates into a free raise when you hit them with something.

I am also curious why nobody is using their extra action from the speed spell, should that have been cast during the first round?  I thought we had a free round at the beginning to get those spells fully into effect.

This message was last edited by the player at 17:19, Sun 02 Aug 2020.

The Last Ancient
 GM, 28 posts
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 Elder Race
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 17:48
Re: Out Of Context
Yes, it is in effect. You guys are welcome to edit your posts!
Maya Lailah
 player, 19 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Sun 2 Aug 2020
at 17:53
Re: Out Of Context
Hey Seraphina, if you want to attack again, you get another +2 from me.
Seraphina
 player, 23 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 01:06
Re: Out Of Context
Heia Noelani:
I am also curious why nobody is using their extra action from the speed spell, should that have been cast during the first round?  I thought we had a free round at the beginning to get those spells fully into effect.


Oh I completely forgot.  I'll edit it in.
Velvet
 player, 12 posts
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 05:46
Re: Out Of Context
I wasn't actually aware I had another actions available to me.  between the wash of posts and the wait between, and the flow of posts in other games... I'm not keeping track very ell here.

In other games I've played in we've sometimes had a closed, GM-controlled, thread for tracking effects and conditions applied to the characters.  Any chance we might get something like that here?
Alexis De Winter
 player, 12 posts
Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 13:14
Re: Out Of Context
We were somewhat affected by the storm (lost internet but not power) and I'll hopefully be back in order soon.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 29 posts
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Mon 3 Aug 2020
at 18:59
Re: Out Of Context
Yea I can get something like that posted! Sorry for the delays on my party fiance announced a random trip to the beach so i haven't gotten a chance to sit down and right anything up yet but I will do so soon! Definitely today sometime.

EDIT: Does anyone who hasn't posted want to get a post in before I update? If not its okay, I just want to keep things moving :)

This message was last edited by the GM at 21:36, Mon 03 Aug 2020.

The Last Ancient
 GM, 30 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Wed 5 Aug 2020
at 18:20
Re: Out Of Context
Apologies for my tardiness everyone, I promise Iím working to get an update in!

I post from my phone, which works but this next update is a bit lengthy and I need to check everyoneís rolls and such, make the rolls for the rats, and Iíve had some unexpected life things that got me distracted but Iím home now so I will get things sorted out shortly. Iíll be better about daily updates in the future this wonít be a normal thing!

Excited to continue the adventure with you guys :)
Seraphina
 player, 24 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Wed 5 Aug 2020
at 22:04
Re: Out Of Context
Heia was the one who climbed out of the way right?

I don't think it matters, the spells should make it so that no one is worse than Shaken after that I believe.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 32 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 00:13
Re: Out Of Context
Oh goodness, I got that mixed up! My bad
Marcus Coventry
 player, 17 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 11:09
Re: Out Of Context
Sorry for vanishing, I've been in a bad headspace, and every time I would load RPOL and see the PMs and rMail waiting for me, it just made things worse.

I need to catch up on what I missed...
Alexis De Winter
 player, 13 posts
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 13:47
Re: Out Of Context
I am sick this week, I think it's a stomach flu. Will be back ASAP...the sooner the better.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 33 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Thu 6 Aug 2020
at 15:08
Re: Out Of Context
Take care of yourselves first, Iíll still be here!

If you canít make it to your character post when I update Iíll just assume they take defensive reactions and I wonít have enemies target them if it can be helped/makes sense.
Velvet
 player, 14 posts
 +1act/5, +4 armor/5
Fri 7 Aug 2020
at 06:06
Re: Out Of Context

I'm offline probably for the next 24 hours.   Water photo-shoot in the morning.   I should be back online tomorrow evening.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 35 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Mon 10 Aug 2020
at 18:26
Re: Out Of Context
Went ahead and got in update in to keep things moving forward!
Heia Noelani
 player, 21 posts
Tue 11 Aug 2020
at 23:10
Re: Out Of Context
Before we let the time skip go completely unnoticed, did anyone take an actual wound from the swarms, something more lasting than the shaken condition that will fade on its own?
The Last Ancient
 GM, 36 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 01:22
Re: Out Of Context
Iíll need to double check, but I believe because of the armor bonus no one was actually wounded, only shaken. And shaken status wonít matter for the next part so Iím effectively saying if you were shaken youíre good now.

You guys actually slaughtered those swarms a lot faster than I anticipated! In the adventure pamphlet I was only supposed to introduce one swarm at a time, but threw both at you guys to try and make it a harder challenge.. but to no avail :D
Heia Noelani
 player, 22 posts
Wed 12 Aug 2020
at 04:15
Re: Out Of Context
We did collectively dump a lot of power points onto that encounter.
Maya Lailah
 player, 22 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 04:25
Re: Out Of Context
I'll leave the trap checking to someone else.
Seraphina
 player, 27 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Sat 15 Aug 2020
at 15:35
Re: Out Of Context
Wait a sec- was there any clue from checking the body?  I'm trying to figure out if this is new or if this has been down here for donkey's years
The Last Ancient
 GM, 38 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Sun 16 Aug 2020
at 18:45
Re: Out Of Context
My apologies for not responding to that, the body is very decayed and has no clear markings or jewelry or anything, literally just Humanoid bones, as for age itís the same as the tunnel/hall, definitely several hundred years old at the least.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 39 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Sun 16 Aug 2020
at 23:56
Re: Out Of Context
Donít forget you guys have 3 bennies! You can use them to reroll (but not reroll the wild die).
Marcus Coventry
 player, 19 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 06:16
Re: Out Of Context
The Last Ancient:
Donít forget you guys have 3 bennies! You can use them to reroll (but not reroll the wild die).


Why not reroll the wild die?

quote:
REROLL A TRAIT: Bennies grant a hero a reroll on any Trait, and best of all, you get to keep the best total from all your rolls. The only exception is a Critical Failure, which ends the attempt and must be accepted.
Such is the price of tempting fate!


As we're wild cards, all our rolls include the wild die, so we reroll all the dice, not just the trait die. Otherwise it would state reroll trait die, not trait roll.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 40 posts
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Mon 17 Aug 2020
at 16:26
Re: Out Of Context
I stand corrected :D
Marcus Coventry
 player, 20 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Tue 18 Aug 2020
at 14:10
Re: Out Of Context
I'm still on team knock the door btw ;)
Seraphina
 player, 29 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Tue 18 Aug 2020
at 23:17
Re: Out Of Context
Yeah if no one else is going to try checking it, you might as well decide who's going to force it (if it needs to be forced).
The Last Ancient
 GM, 41 posts
 The Last of an
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Tue 18 Aug 2020
at 23:42
Re: Out Of Context
The door is not locked, and I can go ahead and update I was just waiting for others post. Iím assuming everyone wants to open the door and continue on then?

We are getting close to the conclusion of this opening act
The Last Ancient
 GM, 43 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Wed 26 Aug 2020
at 00:05
Re: Out Of Context
Posts from me today now that I can log into RPoL! Site has been down the past few days I guess
The Last Ancient
 GM, 46 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 19:52
Re: Out Of Context
Just poking everyone, if thereís something I can do to help you guys post, more descriptions or anything just let me know! I just want to make sure everyone is enjoying the game so if you feel something is lacking or could be done different please tell me!
Marcus Coventry
 player, 22 posts
 Parry 5+1 Toughness 6(1)
 Wandslinger supreme
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 20:48
Re: Out Of Context
From me it's a case of, did we all make it across?

And if so, is it another repeat of checking the door is safe to open, and then open it?

Right now we're following a linear path until something happens to interrupt us.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 48 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 22:21
Re: Out Of Context
Well, Iím waiting for the others to either make a strength check or to find another way across, in order to continue into the next room
Heia Noelani
 player, 25 posts
Mon 31 Aug 2020
at 23:03
Re: Out Of Context
SO nobody had any rope at all? That is going to get fun.  I figured I would go last just in case someone needed a nudge over the edge, but if everyone has gone already we can just move on.
Seraphina
 player, 34 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Tue 1 Sep 2020
at 00:38
Re: Out Of Context
Well I think I can solve the problem, but in a way that's going to cost us a lot of power points I wanted to save for what's behind the door (I also would have preferred to do it before Maya jumped buuut I was overwhelmed for a few days there so that's my bad I apologize).  How many people besides me are still on the wrong side?  Me, Heia, technically Velvet and Alexis but they seem to have dropped off?  I ask because if they've vanished into the aether I'd prefer to save the power points.
The Last Ancient
 GM, 49 posts
 The Last of an
 Elder Race
Thu 3 Sep 2020
at 19:33
Re: Out Of Context
For the sake of moving forward, Iím going to say there is some random rope on the other side of the chasm, and anyone who wishes to cross over can now do so safely. If you guys want to open the door let me know and Iíll post whatís on the other side
Maya Lailah
 player, 27 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Thu 3 Sep 2020
at 19:45
Re: Out Of Context
Let's do it.
Seraphina
 player, 37 posts
 P:9 T:8(3) W: 0 B: X
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 13:29
Re: Out Of Context
Unless someone else volunteers or wants to cast more spells, Seraphina's plan was to burst in and start... something.  Fighting probably.
Maya Lailah
 player, 29 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 13:40
Re: Out Of Context
I'm a little low on PP so I'll be reserving for blasting and healing.
Heia Noelani
 player, 27 posts
Fri 4 Sep 2020
at 13:45
Re: Out Of Context
I think fighting is probably the next step, after that we may want to consider taking a breather to recover a bit.
Maya Lailah
 player, 30 posts
 Par 5+1 Tough 5+1 Pace 6
 Dark Healer pp 8/20
Sat 12 Sep 2020
at 01:52
Re: Out Of Context
Let's go!