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OOC Yes.

Posted by The MetaFor group 0
Cornelius Abernatch IV
player, 19 posts
"Words are like arrows"
Sun 29 Mar 2020
at 19:07
  • msg #220

Re: OOC Yes

Aithne:
Also, another question while I'm thinking about it.   Is it okay to assume the characters of noble birth and/or rulers have some proof of their identity?


Wanting them to prove that they are noble-born when they say they are? Or are you wanting to claim you are one, and not be rumbled?

These are examples of checks and their DC, related to Knowledge (Nobility):
Know current rulers and their symbols DC10
Know proper etiquette DC15
Know line of succession DC20

Also, has anyone struggled to think what nation their character comes from? I was thinking generic Taldan, but more and more and feel Cornelius fits the attitude and style of someone from Cheliax...
The Meta
GM, 81 posts
Sun 29 Mar 2020
at 19:58
  • msg #221

Re: OOC Yes

Kalven, I meant to say this earlier and its my own fault for forgetting to mention it.

Keep in mind that unless you've spent from your wealth to own a vessel you dont actually own it. That is to say, someone else owns it and they are loaning/renting it to you for transport into the island. This follows the typical hireling rules, we can hand waive the initial/basic costs as trivial in cost. Since its an Air ship, I am fine with you using this to get to a settlement hex you find appealing, however, going inland where the dangers increase will cost per the hireling rules for hazardous employment. Also, once you offload and begin working on the hex, the airship will leave you where you offload at.

You can find vessels and their costs if you want to own one, however. I also meant to make sure Finaril also spent for theirs but cant recall if I checked.

I know I didnt mention this, so dont stress about it, either of you, if this causes conflicts in your sheet then I will make sure to work with you on fixing it in a way that is ideal for you. I apologize for not addressing this earlier.
Kalven
player, 12 posts
Dwarf Brawler
Sun 29 Mar 2020
at 20:11
  • msg #222

Re: OOC Yes

Sorry about that Meta.   I haven’t posted thoroughly in a couple days and been putting out fires in my personal life with all the quarantine going on.

Had spoken with you and wanted to add a few items we had spoken would be ok.     Added a few magic items,  the airship, and a single hireling/ retainer  that I wanted to add to my dwarf colonist that are with me.  Had deducted the money from my private Kalven thread and posted the private message to you about the items, airship, and gnome I wished to hire and start with.
Enoch
player, 12 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 16:17
  • msg #223

Re: OOC Yes

It might interest you all to know that a five ft by five ft by 3 inch iron plate weighs 3062.88 lbs. You could round said weight up to 3063, and then multiply that by  1 sp, or by .10, to get the price of a five ft three inch square of iron for a wall or something.
The Meta
GM, 88 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 16:20
  • msg #224

Re: OOC Yes

someones reading the boards, lol.
Aisent
player, 54 posts
Sword of Iomedae
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 16:27
  • msg #225

Re: OOC Yes

Where did you get a ton and a half of iron, I'm pretty sure that's not laying around this town :)
Enoch
player, 13 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 16:30
  • msg #226

Re: OOC Yes

  1. determine weight of 5x5x3 in iron,
  2. Find price of iron in trade goods section
  3. find out that stainless steel is 10gp per pound
  4. multiply this to get price of a single square of stainless steel
  5. multiply this by 32 to match up with number of squares of airship
  6. continue to determine other costs of airship improvement


Stainless steel folks is protected against rust... even from a rust monster, or so the books say.
Enoch
player, 14 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 16:40
  • msg #227

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to Aisent (msg # 225):



Town... I'm still in the creation phase.

DM, by boards if you mean message boards, most of them don't work with the screen-reader I use.  Now, I scanned in a book of weights and measures to get the weight of iron, partly because I was curious what an iron wall would be like on cost for all those dungens. Its also why steel reinforces something else, usually, and isn't used as something all by its self, save for the outer armor for vehicles...
Don't worry, all my stuff will be in tables with titles representing what it is.
The Meta
GM, 89 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 16:43
  • msg #228

Re: OOC Yes

ah, you did it the hard way. which is fine because someone has to.

This very observation has been presented in forum boards once or twice. I've seen it before, so when you presented it I felt maybe you came across it in some char creation research.
Enoch
player, 15 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 16:52
  • msg #229

Re: OOC Yes

Yeah, it would be nice, since there are probably lots of stuff there on how to build the "Ultimit  half-orc Alchemist" ever! I will admit UE helped a lot for figuring out what stuff I wanted to buy for the lab. Well that and the site you linked us to for the downtime overview.
Cornelius Abernatch IV
player, 22 posts
"Words are like arrows"
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 20:59
  • msg #230

Re: OOC Yes

Did I miss something? What caused the random discussion about iron??
The Meta
GM, 92 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 21:09
  • msg #231

Re: OOC Yes

you didnt miss anything

I think Enoch was just excitedly presenting some bit of information they determined.

Enoch is new to the system, remember?

So they have been exploring it to familiarize themselves. I expect this was something they uncovered for one reason or another... they mentioned an airship, so perhaps they plan to make an air ship out of iron or stainless steal. And because they know how thick it will be, they know how much HP any given spot of metal plating will have. Meaning, they just effectively started a conversation on the beginnings of a fully customized airship... all the way down to actually dictating the hp, hardness, and material of their own airship.

Enoch, is this roughly where your mind is at?
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:08, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
Enoch
player, 16 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 22:29
  • msg #232

Re: OOC Yes

It was just some information I thought I'd pass along.

I'm new to the system, and as someone that is blind, hence all the references to screen-readers, information isn't always easily come by and always enjoyed whenever obtained.  The reason I went checking is I'm upgrading my character's airship and knowing weights and values are useful.  Later when I start building structures, even considering the downtime system, and the kingdom building system, knowing approximate weights and then comparing them to individual weights is helpful.
Enoch
player, 17 posts
Mon 30 Mar 2020
at 22:33
  • msg #233

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to The Meta (msg # 231):


Yes. Spot on.
The Meta
GM, 94 posts
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 04:05
  • msg #234

Re: OOC Yes

Since kalven is initiating a physical challenge, Roll initiative. I am going to wait to give Aithne and Cornelius time to react.

*edit
Kalven, I see you rolled an initiative already in a previous post. feel free to reroll or use that.
This message was last edited by the GM at 04:08, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
Kalven
player, 22 posts
Dwarf Brawler
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 04:17
  • msg #235

Re: OOC Yes

I'm good with my initiative roll and strength/ grapple check.   If this guy shrugs me off I know something is up!  hahaha.   FULL RETREAT!!! ='D
This message was last edited by the player at 04:17, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
Aisent
player, 58 posts
Sword of Iomedae
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 11:13
  • msg #236

Re: OOC Yes

07:12, Today: Aisent rolled 4 using 1d20+3.  Initiative.
The Meta
GM, 96 posts
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 16:23
  • msg #237

Re: OOC Yes

Aisent, please roll a ride check to determine if dismounting is a move action or a free action.
quote:
Fast Mount or Dismount: You can attempt to mount or dismount from a mount of up to one size category larger than yourself as a free action, provided that you still have a move action available that round. If you fail the Ride check, mounting or dismounting is a move action. You can’t use fast mount or dismount on a mount more than one size category larger than yourself.

Table:
Ride Skill DC’s TaskRide DC
Guide with knees5
Fast mount or dismount20

Also roll 1d8 to determine where you land in the water, please.
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:25, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
Aisent
player, 60 posts
Sword of Iomedae
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 16:36
  • msg #238

Re: OOC Yes



12:36, Today: Aisent rolled 10 using 1d20+6.  Ride Check.

12:36, Today: Aisent rolled 1 using 1d8.  Where'd I go.
The Meta
GM, 97 posts
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 16:56
  • msg #239

Re: OOC Yes

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And you dont see the guy, you can try to guesstimate but lets see what kalven does first since he official goes before you and the dude.

if you had fast mounted, youd get a second movement action. Since you didnt you had to use a move action to dismount. You also elected to control your fall (the move action to dive) so that leaves you entering the water and then done with your turn. Which I think you expected anyways.
This message was last edited by the GM at 17:49, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
Enoch
player, 18 posts
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 17:52
  • msg #240

OOC Yes

In reply to The Meta (msg # 1):

Two questions while I'm thinking of them, yes this is kind of random:
  1. Would it be possible to give silk armor damage reduction against arrows in keeping with the fact that it was the main reason why such armor was worn?
  2. Does lead-lined block scrying as it did in 3.5?


Obviously, this second could be something not supposed to be known IC for various reasons, regardless, and will understand if you decide not to answer, etc.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:54, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
Cornelius Abernatch IV
player, 24 posts
"Words are like arrows"
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 17:59
  • msg #241

Re: OOC Yes

Enoch:
Would it be possible to give silk armor damage reduction against arrows in keeping


Quilted Cloth would give you what you want.
https://aonprd.com/EquipmentAr...Name=Quilted%20cloth

quote:
This enhanced form of padded armor has internal layers specifically designed to trap arrows, bolts, darts, shuriken, thrown daggers, and other small ranged piercing weapons. When these kinds of weapons strike you, they tend to become snagged in these layers and fail to harm you. Wearing quilted cloth armor gives you DR 3/— against attacks of this kind. The special layers of the armor have no effect on other kinds of weapons.

This message was last edited by the player at 18:00, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
The Meta
GM, 98 posts
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 18:11
  • msg #242

Re: OOC Yes

I present to you, armor stacking in all its splendor and glory. I spent over a week researching this design and so ive kept it in my own personal archives.


quote:
Armor:


(Mithral) https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equip...or/lamellar-cuirass/
(2 base ac, 6 max dex, 0 ACP, 0 ASPF)

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/armor/quilted-cloth
(+ DR 3 vs arrows, bolts, thrown daggers, and other small ranged piercing weapons)


https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/armor/haramaki/
(+1 armor)

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equip...or/tunic-reinforced/
(+2 ac vs crits)

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/armor/armored-kilt
(+1 ac)

Final Armor: Light Armor (2 sets of this)
(4 AC (+2 vs crits), 6 max dex, 0ACP, 0ASPF
DR 3 vs arrows, bolts, thrown daggers, and other small ranged piercing weapons)


whether the haramaki works varies by gm. most yes but some say no, enough say yes that i've defaulted to having it in the design.

@ cornelius, do note, aithne is following you into the manor.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:17, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
Cornelius Abernatch IV
player, 25 posts
"Words are like arrows"
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 18:19
  • msg #243

Re: OOC Yes

The Haramaki adds nothing, as all the others give more than +1AC.

You would only really get +1AC from the Reinforced Tunic against a crit, as it gives it +2 AC for a total of 3, making it 1 better than you're Lamellar.

Light Lamellar is Leather, so couldn't be made of Mithril - https://aonprd.com/EquipmentAr...=Lamellar%20(leather)

Stell, which could be turned into Mithril, is Medium - https://aonprd.com/EquipmentAr...me=Lamellar%20(steel)

The kilt pushes it up to classing as medium armour, which could impact anyone penalised for wearing more than light armour.
The Meta
GM, 100 posts
Tue 31 Mar 2020
at 18:33
  • msg #244

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to Cornelius Abernatch IV (msg # 243):

Like I said, thats a matter of gm perspective. most gm's ive seen say something on it have allowed it to give the +1 in the same way the armored skirt does. The primary logic behind this is that the hamaraki has no dex mod limitation, much like how a shield doesnt. It's a strange piece of armor for sures though and not something we should debate here.

On paizo, for 'lamellar-cuirass':
quote:
Lamellar is a type of armor in which small plates of various types of materials are strung together in parallel rows using fine cord. Lamellar plates can be constructed from lacquered leather, horn, or even stone, though suits of iron and steel are the most common. Lamellar armor can be crafted into various shapes, including partial pieces such as breastplates, greaves, or even entire coats. The properties of specific suits and pieces of lamellar armor are determined by their material.

This armor consists of a light breastplate and shoulder guards made from lacquered leather plates bound together and fitted over a silk shirt..


You would be right about the armored skirt, but because Lamellar cuirass qualifies for mithral the armored skirt's armor tier increase is negated by mithrals armor tier decrease.

Im not sure what you mean by that 2 and 3 numbers.

the Lamellar has 2 ac. this is increased to 3 by armored skirt and possibly increased to 4 by haramaki (gm dependent). the +2 vs crits means in the event of a crit threat, the ac then counts as 6. if you mean that the ac stack vs crits counts as actual ac, and thus makes the reinforced count as 3 and thusly counts as 1 higher than the lamellar... that depends on the wording. However, I actually think you may be right on this one as it explicitly says it increases the armor bonus in the event of. And so it is indeed only a +1 vs crits since that puts it 1 above lamellar... and this carries over with the armored skirt bonus. so in the event of a crit threat, its actually increased to 5, not 6. I will make sure to adjust my archive for this, thank you.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:42, Tue 31 Mar 2020.
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