Im sure there are rules for caravans and nomads.

just remember BP doesnt just represent money, material, or any singular thing. building points is labor, workers, food for those workers, material, etc etc. it makes it both easier to protect but also harder to hoard, transporting 150 bp is likely going to require a caravan or something of that sort.

It took more than a day (and sleeping on it) to get my gear list finalized.  Even if it's alot, it still takes a while to spend wisely.

*updates character description and ponders more pictures*

im looking over these premade maps to use, and starting to realize theres an inherent flaw with using them. I'm going to have an issue with map conversion into an editor that will let me at lease add stuff let alone allow me to maybe clean up whatever is already on the map.

this map:

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https://www.deviantart.com/darthsunshine42/art/Fan-made-Golarion-map-337812221

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Also shows the stolen lands claimed as 'river kingdom'.
Would you guys, instead, be ok with a 'new world' trope where I just generate a large chunk of land on, say, the ivory sea and those who wanted to start in the river kingdom (or the stolen lands) can instead start in this newly generated land?

I would also encourage you guys to check out page 13 and 15 of this:

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https://bikurishita.files.word...er-players-guide.pdf

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This message was last edited by the GM at 07:01, Sat 14 Mar 2020.

I have played Kingmaker a couple of times as well as the computer game.  I like the idea of an island in the Ivory Sea, Colonists kinds thing.

Wherever Iomedae beckons I go :)

In reply to The Meta (msg # 96):

*thumbs up*

Curious is anyone else doubling up on items enchantments?

I'm taking elven boots of speed amongst a couple of other items.

Yes I did :)

I was waiting for you all to give a yes or no, I guess ill take that as a yes since there aren't any no's. that makes things significantly easier, ill have a map up soon.
You guys will need to all come in on the west coast, since you guys had planned to be at stolen lands so thats going to be the continent you guys are coming in from.

Those coming from Tia such and such (I havent looked at where that is yet) can come in from whatever continent houses those lands and Aisent can choose which side she wants to come in from.

To clarify, the default start point is West coast

those coming from any Tia whatever place may/can choose the nearest coast to there as their starting point

Aisent can/may choose any coast as her starting point.

I am going to add another player but if your sheet is ready then you may start as soon as the map is up. I am going to try and pick a central harbor point for west coast, a hastily made port town of sorts, and if you want to choose a different hex along the west coast you will have to contend with the extra travel time and coastal hazards.

btw, doing things in any other continent, lands, or otherwise is acceptable. the whole world is your oyster... go crack it open and reap its life force for your own, prepare for it to fight back though.

Just, those who wanted kingdoms or lands, this 'new land' is the best course to start. I can still make maps for those who want to start elsewhere but its going to be a lot harder and complicated. Also, anyone doing buildings without using bp will have a lot easier time to start but their buildings will typically be just buildings unless they do something extra to fix this.
This message was last edited by the GM at 19:49, Sun 15 Mar 2020.

I think I'd probably start in the default town, despite Champion being able to travel over water the distance would be to great for him to travel over the ocean that way so coming by ship was most likely the path taken.

there are always boats, travel isnt the issue. but then again being all by your lonesome on the east coast would suck so the default port is probably going to be best.

Default port town map is up. ended up looking less hastily done then id like, more established, but we can pretend for now as it won't take long to get itself where it's at in the map anyways.

Imagine the walls are shoddy palisades and the towns are more log structures. the only two places that are established, clearly the first places put in, is the pier and the buildings to the left. the building structure to the right looks like barracks but the people occupying it would be more accurately called a militia.

*edit
actually, I did a shod job making walls to represent the shoddy walls. so thats something.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:38, Sun 15 Mar 2020.

Right, three pretty good rolls, two kind of bad rolls, and one awful roll... probably shove that in charisma for the "by the gods what is that thing!"
right, time to map out skills and purchase some stuff...  let it be known, this is my first time playing Pathfinder, but not my first time playing D&D, so expect questions.

I'd also like to start in the default town, even though from Tian.

I need to verify your item costs and calculate out their totals, then run through and make sure you have the right skills and abilities (oh my, exciting) but if you two dont try to kill each other or the town then you both can start. ill make a post for the port town.

Hello peeps

Welcome aboard

thanks :) anything i should know about beforehand ?

and ill try to fill in my character sheet asap
This message was last edited by the player at 13:52, Mon 16 Mar 2020.

Hello :)

I am the sword of Iomedae :)

I'm still mulling over my initial post, just fyi.

I think I am pretty much ready yo go, just mulling over whether to take a sword or not.

In reply to Finaril (msg # 114):

once you give me the word, I lock your sheet and start vetting it while putting you in your ic group.

Kingdoms are going to have a kingdom group btw, both a public (for everyone who visits) and a private (for themselves) side group. (aithne, I took a screen shot of your myth sheet).

Once its been locked and vetted, you will need to put in a request for edits to it and I will do the edits.

I can confirm that he locked mine a long time back :)

I'm halfway through the purchasing process and have set aside some GP for Buildint Points for Kingdom buuilding. My question for the moment is, are tomes, such as the Tome of Understanding purchasable? I've heard, both figuratively and literally, that some DMs don't allow tomes in their games, so want the up and up here, thanks.

Yep they are allowed, and yes some of us benefited from them but keep in mind their costly nature.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:29, Tue 17 Mar 2020.

You are free to spend your level 20 wealth by level however you want, so long as it follows the WBL rules and limitations. Though, I dont see anyone finding an item that costs over 50 percent of 880k. I havent fully gone through the lists though so maybe ill be surprised.