I meant, is it useful to Kingdom building?

It's a good supplement for strongholds. There is not so much about Kingdom building but it provides rules for magical rooms and such. Since Pathfinder itself is a derivative of 3.5 and the guide was made for 3.0 it translates pretty easily into Pathfinder. Unless you are planning to build a stronghold you probably wouldn't need it.

Vresil and Garick, do you guys need anything?

Almost set - posted a PM for the few things I need.

I just posted a link to several of the tables from the stronghold builder's guidebook for quick referencing. The fees for day for servents is one of my favorite things from the book.

I can't see the last post Meta boat, you seem to have left me off :)

In reply to Aisent (msg # 475):

You didn't miss anything, it was just a post regarding my detect magic and a question I asked ooc

Was there something you needed me to handle, aisent, that I missed?

If I were paying for a bathroom, as in straight up buying it, considering the gold to labor/ influence/ good system it would be 260 gp, right? I'm trying to plan out the rooms of my airship, and how much they'd cost to build, so want to sure I have the prices correct.

The room Bath, looks to cost 130Gp if you are just paying for it and not using earned capital.

Create 3 Goods (60), 1 Influence (30), 2 Labor (40) (130 gp)

Capital 	Purchased Cost 	Earned Cost
Goods 	        20 gp 	        10 gp
Influence 	30 gp 	        15 gp
Labor 	        20 gp 	        10 gp
Magic 	        100 gp 	        50 gp

This message was last edited by the player at 04:22, Thu 30 Apr 2020.

When listening to the entry, I wasn't sure if the coin cost was in addition to the labor goods influence, or represented as an equivalent. Usually    equivalency is written in a different from than the one presented.

The table I have that you have written, but there could be other visual material which the reader doesn't translate.

Nope, there isn't any extra information on that table. It's just the added cost of the goods tossed in GP form so that you don't have to add it all up and check it yourself.

I meant more for the entries, since to me the total as you say it, is in parenthesis, which doesn’t express equivalency in any form known. It also raises a few other questions,  but I’ll relisten before I articulate those questions.

Are we assuming that we took several months to 'spend' 150 bp as we set up the start of a kingdom, or are we starting by 'Landing' at our destination, then roleplaying through Exploration, Clearing of Lands, and Building up?

In reply to Mako (msg # 483):



As I understand it if you spent the initial funds for BP, then you have those resources present, but nobody has any actual starting kingdoms, the port is there, but while you have the means to build things from the BP, you won't have built anything yet. At least this is what I've gotten from OOC conversations thus far.

Map hexes are 12 miles across from side to side?

Yes, map hexes are as you say.

I feel like experience should be earned regardless of whether from success or failure.
I think combat has a 'survived' modifier for experience per cr.

Would you guys be ok with me adding that (probably half experience or a 1/10th experience or something) to the experience earned from doing downtime activity?

So downtime activity would earn half what the dailies originally showed?

I suppose I'm okay with that

I did research and there doesnt seem to be any pre existing system in pathfinder for partial experience for failure. Instead, I have learned more clearly that the rules say you get experience for overcoming something and, quite honestly, failure teaches you what not to do and that is just as valuable as what you should do.

I feel partial experience should be fair though, otherwise people can decide to try for insane dc's to get the experience even if they fail over and over.

so, actually, I am going to DM fiat this and just rule its 50 percent experience without player input (though, I still appreciate you aisent).

Does anyone think the intro thread has become a bit daunting? I am mildly concerned it may be, and am already thinking of ways to mitigate this. Chief among my ideas is to split it into two threads. Just moving the reference and npc stuff would help it look smaller.

I think it's okay, you could make a thread to put in NPC names etc, call it Important NPCs, you could put their stats in there and just private them to GM :)

this is what i meant by npc stuff



I also have rule I havent even posted on how to handle recruiting npc's for kingdom roles and hiring npc adventurers and such.

You could make a thread titled "house rules" and put many of the rules and links to things you don't want in the intro thread, or the thread for sharing information in the house rules
thread.  You could keep that thread

Can a Metamagic Extend Rod extend the duration of an Infernal Healing spell feom 1 minute to 2 minutes?