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OOC Yes.

Posted by The MetaFor group 0
Enoch
player, 77 posts
Sat 23 May 2020
at 20:30
  • msg #620

Re: OOC Yes

journey by airship.
Silverdale Blindeye
player, 5 posts
Sat 23 May 2020
at 20:38
  • msg #621

Re: OOC Yes

Put head in hands.

I am in another game and airship is bad idea.
journey of the dammed for the players but for this game airship sounds good to me.
Aithne
player, 95 posts
Human
Gunslinger
Sat 23 May 2020
at 21:22
  • msg #622

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to Enoch (msg # 620):

Or try flapping your arms really fast.
Enoch
player, 78 posts
Sat 23 May 2020
at 21:26
  • msg #623

Re: OOC Yes

There are ways to protect the balloon... both magical and non-magical.  Just saying.  There are also flying carpets and other things that fly, even mountains turned upside down. .

Netheral how I remember you.

There are also elvish teleportation gates.   I'll add link to this later, very nifty.
Kalven
player, 88 posts
Dwarf Brawler
Sat 23 May 2020
at 22:27
  • msg #624

Re: OOC Yes

Silverdale Blindeye:
Put head in hands.

I am in another game and airship is bad idea.
journey of the dammed for the players but for this game airship sounds good to me.



We'll see be wary of the flying spiders.....

Since I've planned my thing out with it I hope it works out okay :)
The Meta
GM, 289 posts
Wed 27 May 2020
at 03:30
  • msg #625

Re: OOC Yes

new post fixed for airship scene.

Aisent, please see my request for you, you may do rolls for next round as well, if youd like. and you may post what I requested in the meta hash thread, also if youd like.

For those waiting on me for things, I will get to them soon.
The Meta
GM, 291 posts
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 07:05
  • msg #626

Re: OOC Yes

i'm not sure why things suddenly got so quiet, a lot is happening in the U.S. though so it's reasonable.

I will post an update to the airship scene tomorrow.
Aisent
player, 150 posts
Sword of Iomedae
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 15:31
  • msg #627

Re: OOC Yes

I think all us in the airship posted :)

I do not believe the riots and such are organic....someone organized and paid for them, I'm pretty sure...
Mako
player, 45 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Counterfeit Mage
Mon 1 Jun 2020
at 15:37
  • msg #628

Re: OOC Yes

Are you waiting on anything from me?
The Meta
GM, 292 posts
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 02:42
  • msg #629

Re: OOC Yes

I see that aisent, thank you.
The Meta
GM, 293 posts
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 06:23
  • msg #630

Re: OOC Yes

I was surprised by family hot pot and now it's late. I'm sorry airship crew, it's going to be another post incoming tomorrow notice for the night.

Mako, you hadnt told me you were ready.
Mako
player, 46 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Counterfeit Mage
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 07:36
  • msg #631

Re: OOC Yes

Ah. Well, assuming that my assertments about the spellbook and getting someone to perform the ritual for me are accurate, I think my sheet is ready for review, and I'm ready to get started.
The Meta
GM, 294 posts
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 18:20
  • msg #632

Re: OOC Yes

quote:
Using Preparation Rituals

Using Preparation Rituals

When a spellcaster who prepares spells uses a spellbook or formula book with a preparation ritual, as long as he prepares at least three spells (not including cantrips) or formulae from the spellbooks, he gains a temporary boon granted by the ritual. The boon lasts until its effect is spent (as specified by the boon description) or the spellcaster prepares spells again (at which time it can be reapplied by preparing at least three spells from the book). A spellcaster can only take the effect of one preparation ritual when she prepares spells, no matter how many spellbooks with preparation rituals she uses to prepare spells. Spells in this section A superscript “S” (S) indicates a spell from the caster's specialty school, whereas a superscript “OP” (OP) indicates a spell from the spellbook creator's opposition school.



http://legacy.aonprd.com/ultim...agic/spellbooks.html

quote:
When a spellcaster who prepares spells uses a spellbook or formula book with a preparation ritual, as long as he prepares at least three spells (not including cantrips) or formulae from the spellbooks, he gains a temporary boon granted by the ritual.


It seems to me, only the person preparing spells can benefit from the preparation ritual. If you can prepare, I would even allow alchemists preparing formula's to count since they also have preparation rituals, you can use the ritual. If you cant, you cant.
Mako
player, 47 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Counterfeit Mage
Tue 2 Jun 2020
at 18:48
  • msg #633

Re: OOC Yes

Can UMD emulate spell preparation for purposes of unlocking a ritual?
Enoch
player, 79 posts
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 00:48
  • msg #634

Re: OOC Yes

If you learned of the ritual as part of a prepared spellbook, prepared formula book, prepared meditation book, or prepared prair  book, then you have to  have at least three spells, or formulas from the book.

You can't get around this, can't UMD, can't sing, or dance, or mechaSheva around it.

This is if the ritual is gained from  a prepared source. It is possible however to learn rituals from other sources, but in all cases rituals have certain conditions associated with them,  and those conditions have to be met. As I've said before, Mako, if you aren't a spellcaster, then either hire one, or obtain one through the downtime system, or discuss a plan with the Meta to ttry and gain the ritual through another means other than via a prepared spellbook. I forget what ritual you want, so can't recall if there is already other ritual forms for the one in question, and yes some rituals don't require you to be a spell caster, or require a UMD check (no ritual allows for a UMD check that I'm aware to get around its requirements),  but if you tell me the ritual, I'll check into if there is another existing means for getting the ritual already listed in source material.  Keep in mind all the rituals if not from a prepared book aren't easy to  perform, usually requiring more than one person, and multiple checks.  If you want I can link you to a few rituals to demonstrate what I mean.

I'll try and check back in tomorrow, but as a crisis shelter volunteer, and given current matters, as you can understand I'm a bit on the busy  side.
The Meta
GM, 295 posts
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 00:54
  • msg #635

Re: OOC Yes

Mako
player, 48 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Counterfeit Mage
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 07:11
  • msg #636

Re: OOC Yes

Emulate a Class Feature: Sometimes you need to use a class feature to activate a magic item. In this case, your effective level in the emulated class equals your Use Magic Device check result minus 20. This skill does not let you actually use the class feature of another class. It just lets you activate items as if you had that class feature. If the class whose feature you are emulating has an alignment requirement, you must meet it, either honestly or by emulating an appropriate alignment with a separate Use Magic Device check (see above).


In my case, the Class Feature is Spell preparation. So if I make a DC 21 check for UMD, I can emulate the preparation of a level 1 spell.


The ritual in question is

Efficient Creator (Su) You can spend this boon to use the magic item creation rules to create items with the Craft skill for one day. When doing this, your material costs are equal to half the final value of the item crafted (rather than the normal 1/3 of the cost for using the Craft skill). You can craft items with a cost greater than 1,000 gp by expending this boon over successive days, in the same way magic items with a cost over 1,000 gp can be crafted over multiple days. You otherwise follow all the rules and options for magic item creations.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:12, Wed 03 June 2020.
Enoch
player, 80 posts
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 15:58
  • msg #637

Re: OOC Yes

From the Ocult book, regarding rituals we have this.
quote:
For those rituals that have been found in prepared spellbooks, prare  books, formual books, or meditation books, if the individual wishes to  obtain the ritual in question, then a use magic device check can be attempted to obtain the ritual benefits for three spells if those spells are level one only. If the book in question does not have three level one spells present, thenthe player can attempt a spell craft check to understand the principles of the ritual, and if successful can then attempt a UMD check equal to three level one spells to attempt to gain the benafits of that ritual. DMs are free to construct rituals by other means


From here it goes into the rules for constructing occult rituals and what have you.    For some reason my PDF of this book doesn't allow me to directly copy and paste, so I'm paraphrasing slightly. In either case, Mako, best of luck to you, because that's a fair number of roles at a relatively high number   at level one.
Mako
player, 49 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Counterfeit Mage
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 16:15
  • msg #638

Re: OOC Yes

The spellbook contains

1st—alarm, anticipate peril, expeditious construction, floating disk, hold portal, magic missile, protection from chaos, unseen servant

So lots of 1st lvl spells.

So what is the DC for obtaining the ritual? DC 21?
Enoch
player, 81 posts
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 16:26
  • msg #639

Re: OOC Yes

Yes, and you can't take ten or twenty on it.

You got to role.

Also, if you faile  you got to wait twenty-four hours before you can try again.  Well, you can also get someone else to try it, but your character has to do the waiting game.
The Meta
GM, 297 posts
Thu 4 Jun 2020
at 23:17
  • msg #640

Re: OOC Yes

Preparing spells could technically be considered the spell casting feature... I guess... As it is an aspect of said feature. And you can umd spells... Too... I was kind not against letting you umd but my brain is starting to see the logic of it.

And enoch just presented what appears to be actual rules run just that way.

Sounds like a green light to me mako. I'm probably going to research what enoch found but assume yes for now
The Meta
GM, 298 posts
Fri 5 Jun 2020
at 16:09
  • msg #641

Re: OOC Yes

Airship post incoming
Blythe
player, 13 posts
Fri 5 Jun 2020
at 19:36
  • msg #642

Re: OOC Yes

Hey guys, I'm bowing out of the game.

Thanks for the initial gameplay, and RP fun that we all had! Have a great rest of the year, and hopefully I'll see you sometime soon!
Aisent
player, 153 posts
Sword of Iomedae
Sat 6 Jun 2020
at 14:20
  • msg #643

Re: OOC Yes

Sorry to hear you are going to leave, I'd love to get more of us together :)

If you got scared about my numbers in the die roller keep in mind I'm one of the folks that started with the huge amount of gold, but I didn't want to be a ruler, so all of my gold is in equipment...don't cast detect magic on me...safe to assume almost everything is magical....
Silverdale Blindeye
player, 6 posts
Sat 6 Jun 2020
at 14:54
  • msg #644

Re: OOC Yes


Just to let you know that even though Blythe is leving the idea of magic shop is not dead.

I was working behind the scenes with Blythe.  I had the idea before I joined the game.
My shop will not be of power or standard Blythe would have been.
I started with basic gold.  However I hope to build my shop up.
Even have a network of shops and player working for me if possible.
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