I was told that DM was deciding but to assume pathfinder default world in creation, after all I had originally assumed Cerilia (Birthright world).

I found another god to worship, well goddess this time. Only a couple tweaks. Hope to have my sheet done soon. No one would probably have trouble determining I'm a Paladin of Iomedae unless they are blind....

In reply to Aisent (msg # 19):

I'm mostly finished myself, still have to pick mundane gear; and I'd like the GM to look the character over before I do that.   I'm a twin pistols gunslinger who also doubles as a Dex based tank.

Aithne, I'm seeing rules to allow one to use perform for daily earnings but not weekly. It's not abnormal though for shooters to sell themselves off for shows and displays of weapon manufacturers.

Common pathfinder setting (which is golarion).

it will make finding maps easiest, I love maps but im not that good at making them.

In reply to The Meta (msg # 21):

Oh, I'm going to have both a Craft and another Perform skill.  It just occurred to me that might be a viable perform skill, just like the Wild West shows in the early 1900s.

I'll swap it from a Perform to a Profession skill, no problem.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:21, Sat 07 Mar 2020.

I hear you.

remember that I mentioned in the gm wanted thread we could use background skill rules

I would love some creative help Sylvanus is the half-elf bastard son of the old king's youngest son. Would love some direction of where his elf mother was exiled from so that it would not bring a black mark on the royal family. Let alone a baby on the way.

07:49, Today: Sylvanus rolled 9 using 3d6.  blooded.

Oh that's great background skills, I could use that us Paladins are poor skill wise :)

In reply to Aisent (msg # 25):

paladins arent allowed, no background skills for you.

I kid i kid. ;p
I guess I should put the background skill as explicitly approved in the intro.

Still working on my equipment and a bit of backstory on how I got it :)

In reply to The Meta (msg # 23):

I forgot.  I'll change it in a bit.

Edit: I am officially done.   I think.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:00, Sat 07 Mar 2020.

I'm still some way from getting my character sorted. Tough part will be spending all that money.
Also, deciding where to spend 17 skill points. Going to be the most intelligent rogue ever, especially as the only non-class skill I have is Fly, which isn't much of an issue really.

Now, who else will be buying buildings?

In reply to Cornelius Abernatch IV (msg # 29):

Nope.  I decided to settle upon being from Tian Xia, which means that she moved around a lot before she ended up where she is now.  Which definitely makes her fall into the mercenary category.

In reply to Cornelius Abernatch IV (msg # 18):

Competition? Or alliance?

I don’t know how people spent that much gold already.

Meta, for those of us planning more rulership stuff can we use the gold to build and populate... something? A stronghold or small city?

In reply to Danus (msg # 31):

Three magic weapons, 1 set of customized armor, ring of regeneration, magic boots, magic gloves....shall I go on?  ^_^

In reply to Danus (msg # 31):

You can either buy and manage land using BP, picking a spit of land in Golarion to settle at, or you can spend actual gold using appropriate rules for that to have things built.

I suggested to another player that the lyre may be a good resource here, mitigating costs. kingmaker suggests using bp also kind of covers labor and residents, I cant remember if they have a population growth system persay but ill check soon.

However, paying straight gold for a building or using a lyre does NOT cover the people part so you would have to contend with that in those two options. If you can math it, theoretically, it's possible to use a lyre to mitigate the BP costs but I wont math it.

Also Also, there IS a gold to BP, and a BP to gold, conversion mechanic in kingmaker if I recall correctly.

Finally, there will be a maximum BP start of 150 (so you can start with a kingdom, castle, mansion, or whatever... of up to 150 bp) and I think there are mechanics for maximum bp spend per cycle but I don't recall right now. I think i put this somewhere but dont recall. You CAN do both, use bp AND spend in whatever way to make buildings from gold.

I have posted my sheet :)

I have no land to manage, I thought about it, but having land to manage is hard when you are a roving Knight seeking to do the will of Iomedae, particularly at 1st level :). Though I can craft weapons and I can farm :).

Is the plan to adventure as a group?

Also the 150 BP is that coming out of the 880,000 gp?  I think its a conversion of 1bp = 1000gp initially

I'm up for adventuring with others so long as they don't interfere with me keeping my oaths and stuff :).

In reply to Finaril (msg # 35):

Is the kingmaker BP to gp conversion different than that in the PRD building rules?

Here is the table from Ultimate Campaign

KINGDOM SIZE   PRICE OF 1 BP    WITHDRAWAL RATE*
01–25           1,000 gp            500 gp
26–50           2,000 gp          1,000 gp
51–100          3,000 gp          1,500 gp
101+            4,000 gp          2,000 gp
* If you make a withdrawal from the Treasury during the Income
phase (see page 207), use this withdrawal rate to determine
how much gp you gain per BP withdrawn.

Thanks!’

Is the “kingdom size” the number of BP in that kingdom then? So with Meta’s 150 BP limit would it be 150 * 4K = 600k for that size “kingdom” or would it 25k + 50k + 150k + 200k = 425k as it grew for each level (i.e. 1-25 cost +26-50 cost, etc)?

Kingdom size is the number of hexes you control.  I think they vost at least a BP for each hex depending on terrain.

A hex can run some 4-6 buildings. Each building can be like 10-50 bp to make. its been a while but I know a single hex can have multiple buildings. Theres a sheet somewhere showing all of this, shouldn't be too hard for me to find again.

because you are 'settling' rather than 'settled' I'm going to say its as if you had just 1 hex regardless of what you actually end up starting with.
so that means its 1k per bp.

the 150k comes from your starting wealth.

Some of you can absolutely band together, you can even 'recruit' other 'adventurers' (I will random generate roll some out, theres a website for this). I'd rather you run the extra's, feel free to run them like a bunch of dirty redshirts.

I also am going to do some 'cross-platform play' where I make a separate game and use outside gaming and mirror the two sides for each other (but, again, please dont get too crazy about this). to explain this more. Say someone goes full necro and they are just murdelizing the game. I'll probably go put up an add somewhere for a crew of level 5's or something and have them start a campaign against your necro. I'll port there actions into here and your actions to there.

Good shit like that, multi tier as a mother fucker.

im not settled on all this though, but its highly likely. Depends on my energy level you know?

*edit
so, its better then I thought.

A hex map is a 3 by 3 grid of large squares and each large square fits 4 blocks. some buildings use 1 block, some use 2, some use all 4 blocks. so you can have from 9 to 36 buildings in a single hex.

https://daddydm.wordpress.com/...3/kingmaker-the-app/
This message was last edited by the GM at 07:27, Sun 08 Mar 2020.

Realized I forgot to add a skill rank for favored class and so did that. I do believe the sheet is ready for review.

1BP = 1k gold means I have vastly more money remaining than I planned.

Now, is the 150BP limit per person, or us overall?

As if overall, I feel like it might only be myself and Danus being landlords at this time, and may need to plan, so we don't overdo one type of building, and miss others.

If personal, we will still want to coordinate, but at least it's all on things we want ourselves.

For me, it's settling on what my noble family is about, and having related buildings.
I'm thinking known for scholars and knowledge, keeping records for others, and the go-to family for when you need to know something. So the building of choice would be library. But still need peripheral things, such as a brewery for wine, as what nobles don't love having their own wine?

An alternative is known for making weapons and armour, supplying armies, mercenary companies, militias, and the like.