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OOC Yes.

Posted by The MetaFor group 0
Mako
player, 41 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Wed 20 May 2020
at 17:08
  • msg #595

Re: OOC Yes

Well then. Just need to track down a copy and buy/steal it. No need for UMD?
Enoch
player, 69 posts
Wed 20 May 2020
at 17:32
  • msg #596

Re: OOC Yes


if the particular item you are crafting requires a spell you don't have then, yes Use Magic Device checks will be required. This is a general crafting benefit, and so the specific crafting requirements   still apply for certain items as they come into play.

If for instance, you simply wanted to craft leather armor, or a mastercrafted battle axe, then no UMD checks would be required.
Mako
player, 42 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Wed 20 May 2020
at 17:40
  • msg #597

Re: OOC Yes

Nope. Just Mastercrafting some Special Materials. The ritual allows me to do it in a week rather than several months.
Enoch
player, 70 posts
Wed 20 May 2020
at 18:23
  • msg #598

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to Mako (msg # 597):



Then no, no UMD checks required. Carry on.
The Meta
GM, 279 posts
Wed 20 May 2020
at 23:14
  • msg #599

Re: OOC Yes

One thing you two are missing is in the rules on these spellbooks it's called a preparation ritual. I will reread but if I recall correctly, it says you have to use three spells from the book with the spell book knowledge (what you call a ritual) and you must prepare three spells on the same host books list.

You don't need to use the same book, you don't need all the same spells, in fact it says you can even mix and match the books as you want (even saying you can put one books preparation ritual with another books spells).

However, the preparation is the key part. You prepare it along with preparing spells.

Guthbrand, yes but no. You are earning gold... Even a few gold coins is a lot. No, your earnings do not need to be representative of actual gold coins (it could be 4 gold worth of copper coins, or 400 copper).

Also, in the olden days entertainers went from city to city, perhaps performing for a few days before moving to the next... Much like modern theater. You are right though about much the rest, save that the spread of information is aided quite well by magic in Pathfinder... And there are modern tech and magitech civilizations in the year we play in (though, unfortunately, most tech and magitech rules are starfinder... !Yay lore without mechanics support!)

Anyways, there is a trade off... A balancing pros and cons, to these two eras in a rather interesting sliding yin and yang.
There is also that perform isn't really meant to be used frequently let alone impromptu. Most forums are of the consensus that it's meant to be like a concert or similar such performances.
The rules don't explicitly say this though and so I'm absolutely not going to force that. However, it, without a doubt, completely eclipses the profession rules.

And, by the way, the current 50 percent penalty is from a downtime event you rolled (and you have 3 more events I plan to roll out today). I didn't do the 50 percent because 'bUrN ThE Op tHiNg wItH FiRe!!!' like some ass hat GM's do. However, I feel that it is probably causing you to feel pressured and inspiring you to be resistant to more penalties... Please confirm if this is accurate.

If you handle that first event, the 50 percent penalty will go away.
Enoch
player, 71 posts
Wed 20 May 2020
at 23:35
  • msg #600

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to The Meta (msg # 599):



Note, this is not an argument... I can't actually find anything on that,  but it makes sense, since you can purchase these spellbooks, and in previous editions these spellbooks were supposed to be treasure.
The Meta
GM, 280 posts
Wed 20 May 2020
at 23:45
  • msg #601

Re: OOC Yes

I'm sorry if it sounded like I took you for arguing, I did not.

Just was clarifying with my understanding of the rules. And now that I'm home, I'll also post a link for those rules.
Enoch
player, 72 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 01:58
  • msg #602

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to The Meta (msg # 601):



No no no
I was speaking for me.
You are fine. I just wanted you to understand, with my statement that I could find nothing on it, wasn't meant as a challenge.
Aithne
player, 94 posts
Human
Gunslinger
Thu 21 May 2020
at 02:02
  • msg #603

Re: OOC Yes

I have to ask...we have a tavern thread??   *confused*
Enoch
player, 73 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 02:13
  • msg #604

Re: OOC Yes




Possibly, but usually when a female gunslinger enters a tavern, someone usually ends up kicking the bucket.

If they are smart they won't let you in

:D
Blythe
player, 9 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 02:27
  • msg #605

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to Aithne (msg # 603):

I'll be offering a "magic shop" thread soon, that allows ya'll to communicate via notes with each other through my character. I'll help everyone set up adventuring parties, I'll communicate and link up people that could use each other's skills, etc.
The Meta
GM, 282 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 03:33
  • msg #606

Re: OOC Yes

Lol, I dunno. Aithne has been going there for a few weeks now and it's been alright so far. They had a party too... though, they almost ran out of food at one point.

Aithne, not quite titled tavern but... ya.
link to a message in this game

Also, I forgot to post this:
Enoch and Mako
https://aonprd.com/Spellbooks.aspx
it's everything about the pre made spell books, including spell books that come with preparation rituals.
This message was last edited by the GM at 03:35, Thu 21 May 2020.
Aisent
player, 145 posts
Sword of Iomedae
Thu 21 May 2020
at 11:26
  • msg #607

Re: OOC Yes

Sorry been out of it this week, my grandma had some strokes and been a rough week.
Ranos
player, 15 posts
Elan Psion
Thu 21 May 2020
at 12:41
  • msg #608

Re: OOC Yes

I was wondering how we start with posting
The Meta
GM, 283 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 12:54
  • msg #609

Re: OOC Yes

ranos, you tell me when you are ready, I lock your sheet and then check it... if your sheet is good then I add you to a your relevant groups.

Aisent, Rough weeks are rough :( I get it
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:29, Thu 21 May 2020.
Mako
player, 43 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Thu 21 May 2020
at 14:54
  • msg #610

Re: OOC Yes

Hey Boss.

Can rituals be enacted by non-spellcasters?

Can Spellcasting services paid for enact a ritual on behalf of another?
Enoch
player, 74 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 16:31
  • msg #611

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to Mako (msg # 610):




Mako, if you don't have access to spells via your class, and I have no idea what that is, then you'll need to either establish a team with a spell caster in it, via the down time system, or hire someone specificly for that service, which you could pay with the spell knowledge in said book.

Enoch is an alchemist, so while he couldn't benefit from the book you are referring to, he could gain the services of someone that could do it for him. There is another book that is geared for alchemists that I'm thinking about buying.
The Meta
GM, 284 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 18:32
  • msg #612

Re: OOC Yes

Enoch, How are you coming along with your sheet?
Mako
player, 44 posts
Hobgoblin Unchained Rogue
Counterfeit Mage
Thu 21 May 2020
at 18:47
  • msg #613

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to Enoch (msg # 611):

Thank you. That IS a good way to pay for the Services. Eventually my UMD will be high enough to do it myself.
Enoch
player, 75 posts
Thu 21 May 2020
at 18:59
  • msg #614

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to The Meta (msg # 612):



Its never good when the DM asks this question.

Just joshing. Somebody put a  file container on my desk, and crushed the flash drive with said information on it. The work files and most of the other things were backed up, but not that. So having to start over from scratch.

And now to an important question, is Craft clockworks a skill? I know clockwork constructs require craft construct, but if someone wanted to craft something like a clockwork cart, what crafting skill would be required for that?
The Meta
GM, 285 posts
Fri 22 May 2020
at 00:21
  • msg #615

Re: OOC Yes

I'm really not sure, so I looked it up:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathf...raft_clockwork_uses/

https://i.4pcdn.org/tg/1388832309858.pdf
quote:
For example, Erlic is going to craft a clockwork dancer to entertain the king. This is a very complex task,and faces a DC 20 with a 2 week time unit. Furthermore, Erlic wants to use darkwood for the mechanism,yielding DC 22 and a 3 week time unit. Fortunately, Erlic has 10 ranks in Craft (clockwork mechanism).His expertise reduces the time unit to 5 days. He scores a 27 on his Craft check, further reducing the timeunit to 2 days.


Also, at risk of encouraging enterprising and creativity (*tongue in cheek*):
https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2...ting-clockwork-items
(I may allow some homebrewing, but it has to be earned with actual effort and must, absolutely must, be done in game).
Enoch
player, 76 posts
Fri 22 May 2020
at 02:13
  • [deleted]
  • msg #616

Re: OOC Yes

This message was deleted by the player at 02:14, Fri 22 May 2020.
The Meta
GM, 286 posts
Fri 22 May 2020
at 13:41
  • msg #617

Re: OOC Yes

Blythe, I think I added you to the general spaces for rp play last night. If I didn't then just know I thought I did and will make sure I do in 4 hours
Ranos
player, 16 posts
Elan Psion
Sat 23 May 2020
at 12:37
  • msg #618

Re: OOC Yes

In reply to The Meta (msg # 609):

Could you have a look at my sheet ? I'm ready to get started
Blythe
player, 12 posts
Sat 23 May 2020
at 20:08
  • msg #619

Re: OOC Yes

Blythe was planning on starting off somewhere in the lands other than the water. He, quite literally, doesn't want to travel over water. What are other options?
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