Sweetness! Anyone else has an opinion?

I'm working on the update!

If we do it, something a bit more modern, but no real super-preference I suppose.

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I'd probably be more free for a villain game than for something that would be kinda like co-GMing :) I'd lean toward modern as well but I'd give anything a look. Gotta get an IC post up too.

In reply to Rose (msg # 980):

I hear that and can only defend myself by saying I enjoy worldbuilding collaboratively and love the unique things that can come up. I feel like you know this more than most, lol. I feel like we are doing that in-game even now in a way, building our canon events and history. I'd love to do a villain's game, I'm actually feeling pretty interested, glad you'd be on board with it!

Luminary: We have twenty more posts! Also, modern-ish? Nothing more concrete? So far 2 votes for any time forward of the 1910s or even further up the line? I mostly just want to get an idea of what kind of game to make.

So some questions:

Do you want an actual villain game or is it suicide squadish?
As a group of villains would we be if not Suicide Squad a self forming group or minions?

I would actually be fine with either, but a suicide squad themed game would be potentially much more fun than just a game of villains, imo, but I'll do whatever we lean towards!

Either sounds fun.

Ideas:

Omega Flight: Suicide Squad - Formed from supervillains captured and imprisoned in the Cube - a SuperMax Security Prison located in the 'antechamber' of the Great Beasts prison plane. Since the prison was located in Canada, Dept. H let's out a few of the more controllable or redeemable prisoners to do black ops for the Commonwealth.

Acolytes: Acolytes. 'Nuff said.

Blackguards: A group of villains with...mmmmm......gimmick motifs. Ice, Fire, Boomerangs, Weather, etc. Work together for mutual benefit and profit.

Young Offenders: A team of villainous sidekicks - evil Team Titans or Hellions.

Thunderbolts: Villains pretending to be heroes - for profit or redemption?

Okay. I'll narrow it further. Post WWII. How about that? Lol! Honestly, between the 80's and preset day would likely be my preference.

That's true, I've really enjoyed past outings with you ^.^ Real life is just a bear lately, I've been feeling tapped on creativity.

Personally I'd rather not play an outright villain, so something Suicide Squad-like would be more appealing.

Also, I remember hearing of another game (campaign setting?) that sounded really cool - basically a DC/Marvel type of setting where the world was invaded by hostile aliens, causing the world's heroes to unite and fight them. They did a lot of damage to the invaders, but lost, leaving the villains of the world to realize that they'd have to fill the gap or else Earth would be destroyed/conquered anyways. So it made for a fun opening for villains to either become actually heroic or try to do generally heroic things in villainous ways and do a terrible job at it, but at least they'd have reason to work together either way :)

In reply to Rose (msg # 987):

Think that's the Savage worlds "Necessary Evil' maybe that you're talking about.

In reply to Luminary (msg # 988):

Yeah, that's the one, thanks! :) It never seemed to drum up much interest on RPOL, I think I learned about it from a GPIA thread that didn't actually result in a game. That's a premise I'd be interested in trying out, or something akin to it, regardless of system.

In reply to Rose (msg # 987):

 I hear that, I've been struggling a bit myself, which is partly why I'm so open to changing things up a little bit. ^_^


In Reply to All:

 So my thoughts head in the direction of a 1985 cold war game when you put in the 80s. It wouldn't be high-powered, but rather more street level with more skill than power.

 In the nineties, I'd be more likely for an Independence Day style impending Alien Apocalypse, maybe the heroes of the time have met the threat and were put down for good. As you both tossed out above.

 The 2ks, Anti-heroes perhaps gov't sanctioned to fight the system. This system went online on June 10th, 2002 at 2:45am...

 The Thunderbolts-analog Defends New York from an attack by a god in 2012...

A riff on any of them maybe? Any combination look interesting? I'm looking at Davin with his list too, any of those could be possible but Rose would rather be more anti-heroes than straight-up villains. So maybe we could try a version of Avengers Academy, where potential supervillains are attempting to retrain and go to therapy to get over their issues, but also being enlisted in a sort of junior avenger in training capacity.
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An expendable team with plausible deniability sent into other countries to deal with fascist or communist governments in banana republics or pacific nations (think Manuel Noriega in Nicaragua or Ferdinand Marcos in the Philipines), or drug cartels in Central and South America with way too much political power (like Colombia), these would be perfect Cold War scenarios.  Maybe there is a secret alien invasion involved, or scientists creating super soldiers for some warlord.

That would work perfectly in the 80s scenario!

Or, trapped in the Savage land?
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Second Gen - a group of young villains...or would be villains who were trained by their actual villainous parent/parents who decided they didn't really want to be villains, but......sometimes their training gets the best of them. They stop a bank robbery and maybe some money is missing, etc. Everyone character would be a 'legacy' that is a child of a villain - probably an established one in Marvel Canon if not the 616 version of that character.

'Who Wants To Be A Superhero?' A group of people wildly unsuited to be heroes are given superpowers, costumes, and a name - they made a deal for all of these and their patron will be able to call upon them to do a certain amount of deeds/tests/etc.   Their patron is Mojo and unknown to them they are starring in his newest TV show yet!

A supercommando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they did not commit. These neb promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortunes. If you had a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire ... The A-Team!

In 2010 multiple portals opened around the world and an army of both mundane and superhuman invaders marched through the portals. The heroes - and some of the villains of the world rallied together with the armies of the world and fought back. The greatest group of heroes actually took the fight through the main portal and shortly thereafter the portals shut down. The flow of invaders stopped, but by that time they had conquered large swathes of the world and numbered in the hundreds of millions, nearly every hero and villain who had fought were died, crippled, or captured, while humanity had lost almost half their population. The invaders are settling and firming up their conquests and readying to complete their conquest. You were the small time, the cowardly, the disinterested, the self-absorbed, the imprisoned, the dregs. It is time to step up or shut up. Will you go quietly into the night or rage against the dying of the light?

In 1908 the planes of existance were....squeezed together and this had several effects - one of which was the plane of Tartarus cracked slightly. Power oozed out and several of the Greco-Roman deities were poisoned and now are dead or dying. Zeus the Skyfather and his brothers cling to life though weakened and now are recruiting their children and grandchildren for Tartarus is breaking and the Titans will soon emerge.

The A-Team idea sounds so preposterous it might just be really fun! Mix it with suicide squad and you've got a bunch of low lives with bombs in their heads running Ops for Hannibal!

All of the m sound fun.

Well, if you want Villains trying to be heroes could just do the original Thunderbolts - All the Heroes or at least most of the established ones (in Canon FF and most major Avengers) were wiped out by Onslaught. So Zemo had his latest incarnation of the Masters of Evil rebrand as heroes and become the Thunderbolts. Eventually, some of them started to like it.

There's also similar to the A-Next from Marvel's MC2 line - a group that comes together but there is that lingering mystery of what actually happened to the previous superhero group that you are 'replacing'.


Now, this is more an aside than a pitch I guess but I also liked Valiant comics original H.A.R.D. Corps. People taken from comas, given a brain implant that not only cures the coma but grants them one superpower at a time (switched by requests to a controller via radio) but also is an explosive to 'keep the tech from falling in to enemy hands' (and keeping the members in line). Kinda like Suicide Squad in a way, but not villains, as most were former military. I just found it a very interesting concept.

Wages of Sin: Seven individuals made a deal - they were each granted power in return for service until they realized what it was they were doing. They were each being consumed by their own powers. Gathering together they summoned their patron and then banished it. This broke their pact and freed them while also weakening their powers. Now they must decided what to do with their lives after years as supervillains and many misdeeds to their names.

Each person would pick possibly randomly a sin: Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, or Pride and base their character's powers upon it. Since I don't think we have 7 active or who would want to do it, the remainder might have died during the fight, gone their own way, or sided with their patron.

Played a related idea in a Nobilis where each of our Nobles were one of the Sins and in a superhero game where my character was one of only three survivors and the only one to go heroic.

I think we have enough ideas, what are we thinking looks most fun? Easiest to get into?

- Rose suggested we not do straight up villains. Others only stipulated a modern time period.
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Okay but what does that mean. Just that no one plays psychopaths/serial killers/rapists? (which I'm fine with btw to be clear)
  -I mean, I assume something like Magneto's Acolytes is out since while some of them may think they're fighting for a just cause, they have no or little regard for the lives of normal humans.

Or does everyone have to be a framed hero/reformed villain/that sort of thing?

Or can it be a mix of some good, some bad but controlled, some other?

Just want to get a handle on what the limits we want to place are.

I think she meant, let's not do just a villainous group that will become murder hobos and sickos. *_* which I can get behind. Otherwise, I think she was totally fine with villainous but not necessarily "the bad guys" of the story. Correct me if I'm wrong on that Rose!

Continued in OOC 2....