Indeed. PC head of house or not will officially be discussed later in the process. But that doesn't stop individual discussions.

I mean, GoT starts... what... 10 years after the war ended? I don't see why a HoH couldn't have been the person who achieved something great during the rebellion. I also don't see why it would have to be the HoH as clearly not all lords are warriors. It was just someone tied to the House whose actions brought glory.

That's not at all what we're are talking about Gray.  What are are talking about is that the glorious one isn't a PC.

By "glorious one" you mean the person who did something noteworthy during the rebellion? Why not?

In reply to Gray (msg # 278):

Valid question. That's what benefits like "Famous" and "Respected" are for. Although, I'd never choose it. It's kinda meh to be the one who did their most significant deeds off screen.

Yes. He is the second most noteworthy member of the House ever. If a PC starts there,  he has nowhere to grow. I might as well kill him.

Why are they automatically the second most noteworthy member of the house? The glory belongs to our house, if the person is to be so noteworthy wouldn't they take qualities for Fame and such?

A Glory event it's the result of the actions of one person.

Yes, but our house is what benefits from it.

That has happened twice in the House's history.  The first founded the House! Who in the House would be greater than those?
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:30, Wed 10 June 2020.

Do all achievements of greatness have to be of the same calibur for them to be considered great? Personal glory and the glory of one's house are not the same thing.

As has been posted in the other thread, the Glory historical event is something you get because the actions of one person. It is something so great that it changes the house! How can anything else compare?

We could also keep discussion in this thread instead of clustering the "House Building" thread to keep things tidy.
The DM would then only have to look through the "House Building" thread to check our results.

Out of Strife:

I agree with the DM here, while I like the ideas I'm not too fond of the changes.
I'd say we keep it as it is but can discuss to use some of their ideas (Using Core rules but we could add the "animal husbandry" which perhaps could net us +1 to House fortune rolls)


Copy this and add your opinion:

Out of Strife:
Yay:
Nay: (gold)

Out of Strife is all or nothing. Either we use all of it. Or we don't use anything.

I was trying to refer to this quote from the core book:



Meaning that we could get ideas from "Out of Strife" but using the Core rules.

Though my vote is still Nay to "Out of Strife" if we're just going with the 8 examples in the core book.

Copy this and add your opinion:

Out of Strife:
Yay: (white)
Nay: (gold)

As I mentioned earlier, one of my core concepts is based off one of the holdings in the book.

Out of Strife:
Yay:White
Nay:gold
Undecided: orange
This message was last edited by the player at 00:39, Thu 11 June 2020.

Ah. I misunderstood. That might be possible.

Out of Strife:
Yay: White
Nay: Gold, Gray
Undecided: Orange

Out of Strife:
Yay: White, Red
Nay: Gold, Gray
Undecided: Orange

Gray, in regards to the Glory historical event. It seems that you and I were talking about different things. You were talking about game mechanics and I was talking about in setting effects.

Out of Strife:
Yay: White, Red, black
Nay: Gold, Gray
Undecided: Orange

Can the idea White likes be incorporated, in some fashion, by the core book alone?
This message was last edited by the player at 04:06, Thu 11 June 2020.

Testing

A Song of Ice and Fire RPG Character Sheet
Name	Trevon Stone				Player
Gender	Male		Age	18	House	Silverswift
Goal	Justice	Motivation	Duty	Virtue	Devoted	Vice	Prejudiced
Abilities
Rating	Ability	Specialties		Rating	Ability	Specialties
2	Agility			2	Knowledge
2	Animal Handling			2	Marksmanship
2	Athletics			2	Persuasion
2	Awareness			2	Status
2	Cunning			2	Stealth
2	Deception			2	Survival
2	Endurance			2	Thievery
2	Fighting			2	Warfare
2	Healing			2	Will
2	Language
Qualities						Intrigue	Combat
						Intrigue Defence #	Combat Defence #
						Composure #	Health #
						Intrigue Damage	Combat Damage
						0	0
						Injuries	Wounds
						0	0
Weapons						Destiny Points	#
Weapon	Quality	Test	Weapon Qualities	Dmg	Bulk	Armor
						Armour Rating
						Armour Penalty
						Bulk
						Move / Sprint
						# Base #
						# Armoured #
						# Fully Laden #
Wounds				Appearance
				Height		Eye Colour
				Weight		Hair Colour
				Mannerisms
Equipment
				Distinguishing Features
				Motto
				Retainers
Gold Dragons			#
Silver Stags			#
Copper Pennies			#
Allies			Enemies			Oaths
Personal History

Out of Strife:
Yay: White, Red, black
Nay: Gold, Gray
Undecided: Orange
Meh: Silver

I don’t have that book, but I can try grab it if needed.

I had a question. I own a physical book and I download the core (game of thrones edition) there were minor differences between them. Which one is everyone using.