In reply to Silver (msg # 299):

Out of Strife:
Yay: White, Red, black
Nay: Gold, Gray
Undecided: Orange, Silver


Fixed it for you...

I'm using the pdf, I didn't even know there are differences

The only reason spotted the difference is I was looking the rules for being a Ward. One book has it as a flaw and the other as a benefit.

I am using the game of thrones edition as well.

In reply to Orange (msg # 245):

Even if a betrothal for a PC happens, the marriage will most likely not happen until after the fighting is over (if he even survives)... take a look at the

---

Spoiler text: (Highlight or hover over the text to view)
betrothal Catlyn made for Rob to one of Lord Frey’s daughters. Troops were sent in good faith that the wedding would take place later... and we know where that ended up (as the rains of castemere plays in the background).

---

So there is a president. (From a father who didn’t care much for his children in general.)

In reply to Silver (msg # 299):

I'm using the digital version

GoT edition is the updated edition. I have been using it.

Me too.

I'm also using the GoT version.

I will look into if there's a way to implement White's idea with only the core rules.

In reply to Dragondog (msg # 288):

Out of Strife:
Yay: White, Red, black, brown
Nay: Gold, Gray
Undecided: Orange, Silver

Chronicles of Sorcery:
Yay: Brown,
Nay:
No strong feelings either way:
This message was last edited by the player at 13:33, Thu 11 June 2020.

Seconded.

I'm using GoT: Song of Ice and Fire rules. I don't own Out of Strife or Chronicles of Sorcery. If we can play without having access to those rules and they just provide supplementary data for those who want to use them, I'm fine with both.

I haven't read Chronicles of Sorcery, so I cannot say what it does or doesn't do.

But Out of Strife changes the rules. I made an example out of Port earlier so let me repeat that.

In the core rules a Port can only be built on a coastline and it has synergy effects with the Marketplace.

In Out of Strife, you can build a Port on a coastline or river, but it has to be in a Small Town or larger. And the Marketplace has synergy effects with other holdings, but not with the Port.

If we go by realism, rule in Out of Strife makes slightly more sense. But I am fine with either.

 I'm not sure if I am misreading, but in the GoT edition of the rules, the markeplace still requires a small town or larger as well. So that seems the same between both books it sounds.

The Marketplace does require a Small Town in GoT, but the Port doesn't. In Strife, Port also requires a Small Town.

Oh... yes. Forgive my misreading that.  ^_^;

No worries, Gray.

In reply to Brown (msg # 9, Land Resources):

What house rules have been required so far that you feel we are forcing Dragondog to implement?

The comment was about the alcohol. There are not rules for that in core, but, apparently, there are in the supplement.

Without the supplement, the gm would have to improvise.

Or go as Gray suggest and have it as flavor only.

 Yeah, much of this system is about abstraction. I don't need mechanical expressions to make every aspect of the story possible.

Someone pointed out that depending on edition, Ward was either a Benefit or a Drawback. In the Errata for GoT edition, they change if from a Benefit to a Drawback.

It also states that a Land Holding only may have two Wealth Holdings.

If you're interested in reading what else is there, you can find it at https://freeronin.com/gr_files...esEdition_Errata.pdf where it was found by White.

Oooh, interesting update to wealth holdings.

In reply to Gray (msg # 317):

None as of right now that I can see. I like being able to look up codified rules in a book rather than putting pressure on a GM to weigh in with a decision for something that is house ruled (especially if a text already exists that has been play-tested for balance and also especially in a play-by-post format).
When I run a game, it is much easier to refer players to a page number in a book and make a ruling on the interpretation of the text rather than making decisions that could upset several players (and in a play-by-post campaign, waiting for other players to weigh in on the discussion instead of just being able to read the rules). Like our GM, I also am an all or nothing sort of person when it comes to using a book. (That does not mean that anyone needs to go out and purchase anything else. It was the second link on google when you search for the pdf.)
All of this could just be me projecting from the way I run games with large numbers of players (usually in 5e or Monster of the Week).

If you want a more narrative RPG experience, there are other systems that lend themselves to that (Monster of the Week, or Powered by the Apocalypse) that are not setting specific, so with a little imagination, you could run it in Westeros. This system is more codified than 5e and less codified than Anima. Because of that, I like having “rules as written” rulings by the GM rather than having house rules that could break the balance of a play-tested system.

Green and Purple, could you please go into the Wealth Resource thread and vote on the rule set we are using. Basically the new rules add more wealth holdings, but they also change the rules on the old ones.

If you have no opinion on the matter, that is fine too. It would be good to know what direction we are going.