Once we get to the actual character creation process, I am willing(if the gm is ok) to answer questions and help if people need it.

In reply to Orange (msg # 44):

In GoT, the only way for a woman to be the ‘heir’ is if she is from Dorne (which is why it was my top pick for locations). Shereen (Stanis’ daughter) is the only exception to this in the books or TV show

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and she was eventually used for kindling.

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Are we being faithful to the culture of the books and TV show in this aspect?

I assumed we would, but I also love the idea of a Westeros with greater gender equality.

I am torn on this.  Part of me says, "well, we are just rp'ing in a fantasy world so who cares." The other part says, "well, we are rp'ing in a fleshed out fantasy world and perhaps we should try to reflect the culture we are playing."

But, I don't have strong enough feelings either way.

In reply to Brown (msg # 51):

... and if Head of House has no male sons. According to books, Cat was groomed as heir before Edmure was born.

In reply to Orange (msg # 54):

Then that limits the family to having only one child, or only daughters. Which doesn’t mess with my character idea, but it does limit what everyone else chooses. (Unless we throw bastards into the mix.)

If someone else decides to play legitimate heir, I will modify background. Although I could claim the right of first dibs :).

In reply to Orange (msg # 56):

:-D
This message was last edited by the player at 21:55, Tue 09 June 2020.

Gray, both the house's history, including founding, and the 1d6 each player gets will change the House's stats.

White, feel free to help the other players with any rules questions they might have in regards to character creation. If we interpret the rules differently, we'll talk about it at the time. We will be talking about character backgrounds and roles and such towards the end of the House Building process. That doesn't mean we will bring up all of their background.

Brown, we are being faithful to the culture of the setting. So unfortunately, there are no female heirs in the House.

Orange, I haven't read the books so I cannot say what they say on the subject. But the core rules are clear on the subject. The first son is worth more than the first daughter outside of Dorne. In regards to the needed investment of resources.


I have another question to you all. What is your view on player vs. character knowledge? Would you be fine with your character sheet and backstory being public to the players? The benefit of this would be that it would be easier for the other characters to know what you are good at and what you are not good at. You are a House and would likely know such things. The other side of the coin is do you trust the other players not to let what they know, but their character doesn't influence how they act.

In reply to Dragondog (msg # 58):

I prefer using our descriptions as a way to let others know what they might know about us.  This game is set up for many possible avenues, and, while we all may be in the same house(and all may, to a point, like each other), it doesn't mean we all have the same exact goal.

I like keeping the sheets private between player and GM, especially in this setting.

I am thinking of being a bastard born, with some interesting side hooks I hope if I can design him right.

You have good points. Let's keep them between the player and the GM.

In reply to Dragondog (msg # 58):

I prefer my character sheet be open to the group for efficiency, but keeping it private doesn’t bother me.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:14, Tue 09 June 2020.

I've never kept then open between playes before and I recently saw another game doing that for that very reason, so I wanted to see if that was something we wanted to try here.
This message was last edited by the GM at 22:14, Tue 09 June 2020.

  Do we really need to worry about efficiency? We aren't some party of adventurers.

Throwing my hat in for creating a steward.
But I will want status 3 at least.

In reply to Dragondog (msg # 58):

You should they are good. But that is basically what I said. My character being heir is good only as long as there are no male children. For now, nobody had shown the intention of playing legitimate son.

The household is Step 6 of the House Building process, so I wouldn't expect anything firm from anyone until then.

I can make a male heir if needed for the House otherwise will make a bastard born military trained guy.

In reply to Black (msg # 69):

What your own blood can't bring you, spilling enough of someone else's might?  heheh

I guess we are not deciding upon who plays the heir until we reach step 6.

Feel free to discuss your character ideas though. But everyone isn't online so everyone may not give any input on the matter until step 6.

In reply to Brown (msg # 55):

I just wanted to answer you but got distracted. While it might at first seem that me choosing to play a female apparent heir might be limiting to other players, many other options are limiting as well: if I pick maester, for instance it might limit someone else who plays that, there can be only one head of the house etc.

I have been discussing a concept with the GM. I don't have it fully fleshed out, but, it involves a forward thinking mountain clan becoming a banner house to the main house. Two ways for that to happen are for us to start with a banner house (which can be expensive but easier) or, I take the sponsor quality and later take landed.

There are more to my thoughts, but finishing up at work. :-)