Gray contacted me recently and said that he is leaving the game.

Grand Uncle Glorious sounds old for an event in Robert's Rebellion. What age do you see a grand uncle having? Do we want to move the final historical event a little earlier?

How about uncle if grand uncle is too old?

I have no problem with uncle. And I was only saying that Grand Uncle sounds old, I don't know how old he is or how fit.

That depends on if we want Grand Uncle Glorious to still be around or to have gone own to his glorious rewards. In some generations, it was not uncommon to have an uncle that was similar in age to a sibling. So if HoH is in his 40s or 50s, Glorious could be as well.

I am sorry to hear that Gray has decided to withdraw.

It is not set in stone, its just something I was considering and approached Dragondog to see if some things were possible to remedy. I had not seen their intent to reorganize the threads when I had first messaged them, so I'll see if that takes care of the big thing I was struggling with.

Yes, one of my character ideas had been knightly uncle to the heirs (so brother to head of house... unless that is one of the kids).

As far as someone older performing great deeds during Robert's Rebellion, Barristan Selmy was in his 50's or 60's and was never a foe to be taken lightly.

Okay,

This has been a lot to catch up on...

I agree with the GMs original way of doing things. Going in steps according to the core rule book. The first step is to build the house (which we are not finished with), the second step is where you begin to build your character.
This thread is called “house building.” If you need to allocate a resource that we spend in house building (like for a maester, or a banner house, or a ship) please post that in those respective threads so the rest of us catching up with the conversation can follow. I think everyone has been supportive of what we would like to do in that respect. Otherwise, let’s focus on creating a cool house that we would all like to role play a story in. If you are NOT sure if you want to play a character that uses House Stat Resources, then do not request it, and if you have changed your mind about a previously stated desire to use those resources, please be clear that you do not want to utilize those resources.

There has been far too much talk about character ideas. If players want to spitball and get each other’s opinions and brainstorm together about character ideas, perhaps there should be a Brainstorming Characters thread. (I will leave that up to our GM to decide.) Otherwise it will take everyone else for too long to catch up with the conversation in order to contribute to it.

This is not a critique on our GM, who has been doing a great job at disseminating information and encouraging us to stay on track. I also think that brainstorming about character ideas is one of the most fun things about RPGs in person.

We are going to loose a lot of players due to sheer lack of stamina... context: I just put my 2 month old infant down for the night, and it took me 15 minutes to catch up on the conversation in this ONE thread, and I was participating just a few hours ago (because I’m a teacher and it’s summer), I cannot imagine how daunting it would be for someone (most likely still working during the day) to try and catch up to us reading pages and pages of posts that have slowly begun to loose focus.
This message was last edited by the player at 05:39, Fri 12 June 2020.

Thanks for that idea Brown.

I will be going back to work next week. So I'm not going to be here as much as I have been.

In reply to Brown (msg # 341):

I am feeling the lack of stamina Brown is talking about. I don’t feel passionate about the build of the house, I am more interested in exploring a character that fits the house that is built.

I have no plans on going anywhere but I will leave the house building to the people who are passionate about that aspect.

Thank you for letting us know that Silver.

So, is there where things stand so far?

House ____ of the Vale
Motto: ____
Sigil: ____


Defense (51)
 Superior Castle, 50 (Unnamed)
  - Holds up to 10 units, grants +12 to defense tests

Influence (51)
 Maximum Status 6, No heirs

Land (23)
 Mountain Domain, 9
 Hamlet, 10 (Unnamed)
 River, 3
 Grasslands, 1

Law (21)
 -2 to House Fortune rolls

Population (21)
 +1 to House Fortune rolls

Power (42)
 Banner House, 20 (Unnamed)

Wealth (32)
 Rich Mine, 20
  +3 to House Fortune rolls, +2 Wealth gained from House Fortunes
 Smelter, 5
  Reduce Artisan cost by 2, +1 Population gained from House Fortunes

-----------------------------

As far as general character ideas mentioned...

- Purple is going to be lord of the house
- Gold and Green will be his siblings
- Brown is a "Maggie the Frog"-esque diviner and aunt to the the house
- Gray may be a knight and uncle to the house (alternative idea being a maester/spymaster)
- Red expressed interest in playing a steward/artisan
- Silver expressed interest in playing a bastard of the house or a ward from another house
- White, Black, and Orange are part of the banner house


Just... trying to keep things straight in my head. I hope this is okay.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:46, Fri 12 June 2020.

Though there are no children, the brother can still be heir to the house.

Rich Mine need 20 Wealth investment and givess House Fortune Rolls +3 and Resource Gain Bonus: Wealth +2. The Smelter improvement needs an investment of 5 Wealth and gives Resource Gain Bonus: Population +1 and Other Holding Discount: Artisan Personage Holding cost in reduced by 2.

Everything else, regarding the House, is correct and what you have left blank hasn't been decided though some have (strong) opinions about some of them.

As for the characters people are thinking about playing, I leave to them to comment on.

So the mine costs an investment of 20 Wealth, but raises our total Wealth by 2?
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 21:28, Fri 12 June 2020.

When Wealth is increased because of a House Fortune roll, the mine makes that increase larger.

Ohhh, okay. That's nifty. I appreciate the explanation.

In reply to Gray (msg # 345):

Yes. Sister in law to the lord of the house (widow to a deceased brother).

With the edits our GM mentioned, everything else seems correct for what he been officially decided. From what I understand, it would take 4 of us to come to a consensus to make any decisions final.
This message was last edited by the player at 16:54, Sat 13 June 2020.

The lord of the house is in his early 20's, so we are going with a second younger brother, for four siblings in all? (Or five if Silver sticks with the bastard idea)
This message was last edited by the player at 17:01, Sat 13 June 2020.

With have three PC siblings, as far as I know. Who is this second younger brother?

The deceased one Brown wants their character to have been married to.

I thought she was married to one of their uncles. That she would be an aunt to the siblings. As she posted her idea before we established that one of the kids recently became Head of House.

Or did I get that wrong Brown?

In reply to Dragondog (msg # 354):

Correct! Sister in law the the former HoH, as my character is middle aged. aunt to the newly appointed HoH and his siblings.

Uncle Gray and Auntie Brown are the trusted advisors of us three kids.

What could possibly go wrong...

Black had also wanted to play a bastard so changed my concept to be a ward. Black I believe will be a bastard from the banner house.

Nothing wrong with you both playing one, especially if from different houses. Go with whatever sounds most fun for you. ^_^

I am happy with the idea of being a ward.  I just need to find a reason for the house to have taken a ward.

My initial idea was that I was taken as a result of trade dispute.  Although as the house history develops I think this may need to be reviewed.