In reply to Danila (msg # 860):

Design it as a 400 ton ship with 150 tons of cargo space. Maybe?

In reply to Nerull (msg # 861):

A Q-ship in the form of a Subsidized Merchant? May be... I can make it non-stealthy in order to pass as a merchant but it can have a stealthy ship boat. No passengers anyway, because it can compromise that the ship is a Q-ship.

In reply to Danila (msg # 862):

I believe that MGT 1s supplement 'Merchants and Cruisers' has an example of a subsidized merchant converted into a Q-ship. You can certainly improve on the design. With advanced EW could you spoof a stealth ship into having a 'normal ' sensor profile of the standard civilian ship?

Edit: correction the Q-ship is in 'Traders and Gunboats'
This message was last edited by the player at 03:19, Wed 26 Jan 2022.

In reply to Andrew Steward Copeland (msg # 863):

I'll let you work out the details on this one fellas ;-)

That's question for GM. Nerull?

I guess you can with a good role. If all else fails.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:08, Tue 25 Jan 2022.

In reply to Danila (msg # 865):

Maybe we'll do Secrets of the Ancients next, or move spinward, what do you think? We cut this one a little short, but it also isn't over, getting Bennerj and the Wolblutn shouldn't take too long, there is the Mammoth, or let them to the authorities.

In reply to Nerull (msg # 866):

Both sound they could be fun. As for Bannerji and the Wolbutn instead of killing or arresting him if we were sneak up to his ship with the stealth ship and remotely hack his computer copy useful information and leave backdoor and viruses to track him could he lead us to the Mammoth and the leaders of the conspiracy?

Mammoth is Tukera Lines. Wolblutn is Sternmetal.

In reply to Nerull (msg # 868):

So than Bannerji's visit to Tureka HQ on Aramis we have no connection to Banmerji and Tureka?

In reply to Andrew Steward Copeland (msg # 869):

We have the itinerary which could be unrelated, but seems to lead to where the meson gun was to be delivered. There's definately some connection, but we can't nail it down. I'm all for gathering intel directly from Wolbutn if we can...

Fantastic design, Danila player ! :)
The ISS could, say, lend it to us;
then we look for the Wolbutn with it,
and depending on what happens, either we keep it to tail the Wolbutn, or we give it back and...


...then jump in the converted SDB :)


I think you're over-optimistic ;) Let's focus and finish this adventure first and foremost, and once it's under our belt, we'll be happy to consider other venues :)

Joonan drums his fingers on the table... I like the one with the red paint...

In reply to Gvoudzon (msg # 871):

True, you could die fighting the Wohlblutn.

In reply to Joonan Marr (msg # 872):

<Does his best 40k Ork imitation >

paint it red and it will goes fasta

Geez, and now I bet Andrew will see a red door and want it painted black...

In reply to Joonan Marr (msg # 875):


For all you know he might the Rolling Stones in his ancient
Terran music collection. Perhap Keith Richards could be still alive in the Traeller Era and a not so distant relative of Joonan.
This message had punctuation tweaked by the player at 20:00, Fri 28 Jan 2022.

In reply to Andrew Steward Copeland (msg # 876):

Richards is a zombie, he OD'd 30 years ago and was brought back! ;-)

In reply to Nerull (msg # 877):

Working on a Q-ship design (inspired by the Q-ship in MGT1 "Traders and Gunboats").
How compromising would be a barbette or a small bay installed on a Fat Trader? :)
This message was last edited by the player at 20:18, Sat 29 Jan 2022.

In reply to Danila (msg # 878):

Can you make a weapons bay 'pop-up'?

 Didn't they convert thr 400 Q-ship for MGT 2?

RAW there is no such option, however, the opposite was never stated too.
I don't understand why pop-up version is ever needed, for example, for missiles: if one wants to hide its missile he can simply place it inside the ship and close the bay, like modern missile silos on destroyers, and more than that - one can fire them all at once. Grumble-grumble.


I didn't see it in MGT2, but my Q-ship will be better! ;)
This message was last edited by the player at 22:18, Sat 29 Jan 2022.

OK, here is my proposal.

The concept of this ship is described by an old joke: "The most dangerous enemy is a runner. If he is stronger, you will not run away from him; and if he is weaker, you will not catch up with him."

Indeed, very few dedicated warships can catch up with this Q-ship. The ship is disguised as a regular Subsidized Merchant, but whoever tries to attack it will be very surprised. The ship is designed to quickly get close to the target and do it up close and personal: four pop-up triple turrets with rapid-fire plasma cannons. Long range is for the weak in spirit! But wait, there's more. Electronic countermeasures, advanced sensors and software, thick armor. The Corsair, with its pathetic laser turrets, won't even scratch the paint. At the same time, the ship is within a reasonable TL14, and all systems are civilian grade (no particle beams and nuclear weapons). However, even TL14 is a serious problem for repairs in this sector (maybe that's why the Scout Service on Aramanx wants to dump this problem on us, lol). This ship can even be used for trading! With a minimum fuel supply of 1 parsec, the ship can carry 85 tons of cargo. Of course, there are collapsible tanks there, which, if necessary, will increase the range of the ship to 3 parsecs. The ship actually has Jump-2, but this capability can only be realized with drop tanks, so consider it as a Jump-1 mostly.

I didn't put a stealth coating on the ship as it would make it VERY expensive, but the ship has a small 20 ton boat, and the boat has an advanced stealth system (and advanced sensors). The boat, in turn, is also well armed and protected and can successfully fulfill the role of a heavy - but fast - fighter. The boat can also carry 8 people - not counting the pilot and gunner - for infiltration missions.

Q-ship:
https://docs.google.com/spread...bMM/edit?usp=sharing

Stealth boat:
https://docs.google.com/spread...1gI/edit?usp=sharing

I'm just the GM, I don't pick it! ;-) Sounds good, you guys make your decision.

Abstains since he knows nothing about such things, but appreciates the trouble you went through Danila! :D

In reply to Joonan Marr (msg # 883):

A lot of work doing that! The System Defense Boat trader is $10 MCr. BTW, financing available.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:37, Sun 30 Jan 2022.

Love the Q-boat design. For some reason the cute white rabbit from 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' comes to mind(I have a plush of the rabbit on my computer desk). The converted SDB is still  a fun concept.

The mystery background could be fun. With the Q-ship could have it's mysteries also. Perhaps the ship could been in a dry dock by the ISS (perhaps impounded
And forgotten). Oberlindes, who originally increased their fleet by acquiring surplus navy ships  and somehow  wound part of a mass purchase from the Navy. LSP could have made this ship for a long forgotten  This ship could have been forgotten, or may have been misfiled for a reason.

The 200 ton chameleon could be used for the mission and I could work with the either ship.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:06, Sun 30 Jan 2022.