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Out-of-character discussion.

Posted by DM PaulFor group 0
Rottimer Lind
player, 176 posts
Essentials Hunter
Martial/Primal Controller
Wed 7 Apr 2021
at 18:58
  • msg #556

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Drake (msg # 555):

Nice shot! Now maybe if he keeps chasing me we can kill him on his own turn! Just don't forget to revive me, lol.
Drake
player, 125 posts
Wed 7 Apr 2021
at 21:35
  • msg #557

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Rottimer Lind (msg # 556):

Keep it up Rottimer... you’ve done a great job of keeping him
Entertained
DM Paul
GM, 307 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 01:24
  • msg #558

Re: The True Threat

Two more opportunity attacks, but at least they're weakened.

I have to say that I like how this fight has taken advantage of the room. I usually don't see much of that, when there isn't an exit or other goal elsewhere in the room.
Rottimer Lind
player, 177 posts
Essentials Hunter
Martial/Primal Controller
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 02:29
  • msg #559

Re: The True Threat

DM Paul:
Two more opportunity attacks, but at least they're weakened.

I have to say that I like how this fight has taken advantage of the room. I usually don't see much of that, when there isn't an exit or other goal elsewhere in the room.


I totally agree. Note to DM self: Chase the controller mercilessly.
:)
DM Paul
GM, 308 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 02:45
  • msg #560

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Rottimer Lind (msg # 559):

They get all these fun escape options make/let 'em use them!
Froodle
player, 135 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 13:28
  • msg #561

Re: The True Threat

That'll do for the opportunity attack

If Drake gets a hit too the dragon may have to change target or choose to sacrifice itself by attacking while ignoring the divine challenge.

Of course Frug has an action poised too so we could be near the end (if anyone standing has a heal skill)
Drake
player, 127 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 14:17
  • msg #562

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Froodle (msg # 561):

Hmmm a missed opportunity.... literally

Back to you Paul
DM Paul
GM, 309 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 14:19
  • msg #563

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Drake (msg # 562):

Dragon breath is a standard and the dragon has no minor actions, so I'm done. Bring it home.
Froodle
player, 136 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 14:35
  • msg #564

Re: The True Threat

Ooh there was me thinking you had a charge to come, all down to us now then
Rottimer Lind
player, 178 posts
Essentials Hunter
Martial/Primal Controller
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 16:06
  • msg #565

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Froodle (msg # 561):

So is it Rottimer's turn and the Dragon's movement stopped?
DM Paul
GM, 310 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 16:31
  • msg #566

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Rottimer Lind (msg # 565):

Yes, it's Rottimer's turn?
Rottimer Lind
player, 180 posts
Essentials Hunter
Martial/Primal Controller
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 16:55
  • msg #567

Re: The True Threat

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 566):

I sat there for 5 minutes trying to decide if I should do careful attack for the +2 or try to prone it to grant CA. I finally decided that now was not the time to miss and went for careful attack. Thank the maker I would have missed without it. Whew!

And then I was fortunate enough to get nice damage to finish the job. Great work everyone especially the DM!
DM Paul
GM, 311 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 16:58
  • msg #568

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Rottimer Lind (msg # 567):

Good job! I'll write up a conclusion to this shortly.
Drake
player, 128 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 18:15
  • msg #569

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Rottimer Lind (msg # 567):

Nice one Rottimer a fitting end with the hunted hunter becoming the victor !!!

Nice one Paul brilliant very engaging
DM Paul
GM, 312 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 04:00
  • msg #570

Re: The True Threat

Thus endeth the threats in Kobold Hall. Thanks for the compliments, and thank you for playing.

Assuming you show Devlin d'Denieth the bone mask and return the dragon skin to Goldcap, you have earned 1143 XP each and reached level 2.

From the start of the market scene to the end of the fight with the dragon was 158 days. At that rate, taking the characters to level 30 would take about 12 and a half years. I don't see that happening, but if any of you are interested, I'd like to continue this game with you. It would continue to be based in Sharn and my intent would be to run situations in which the characters remain in Sharn and help keep its collection of points-of-light from dimming too much, both by their own efforts to improve their own status and by dedicated efforts on behalf of the people and organizations of the city.

I think Sharn is big enough to hide threats that are even physically larger and more destructive than the dragon you fought, but given my preference for challenges that aren't just kill-or-be-killed fights, I'd probably have the focus be heavily on objectives the party is trying to achieve, for themselves or others. These would be things like the object and information gathering you just did, or things like sabotaging, escorting, or delivering, or taking or or protecting a person or thing, except with the goal of the opposition being not to kill the party (necessarily) but to keep the party from accomplishing their goal. Or, the goal of the PCs might be to keep someone from accomplishing one of those kinds of goals, which again might be easier to accomplish without zeroing out the opposition's HP. I would plan to make liberal use of skill challenges that happen concurrently with each other or with combat or both and generally have some kind of time limit.

I'm not against the kinds of fights we all just went through, but I just usually like there to be a reason someone is willing to die (or put themselves in a position to die) on the character's swords, and I'd rather it not always be because they weren't aware of the PC's existence or capabilities.

My hope would be that we could reduce the number of combat "typical" encounters per level to something like 3. This is not because I don't like combat, but because it tends to represent the largest expenditure of time for the amount of XP it generates.

Anyway, no pressure. If this is all we play, it was well worth the time. Thanks for trying no-map play, and bearing with me through various errors and confusions. Whether you'd like to continue this game, or game with me again under some other circumstances, please let me know.
Drake
player, 129 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 09:58
  • msg #571

Re: The True Threat

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 570):

Thanks Paul I’m happy to continue playing.  I’ll have a look at the level up and make some
Decisions
Froodle
player, 137 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 12:00
  • msg #572

Re: The True Threat

Well done everyone, especially Paul for hosting and putting in the extra time to prep / make things run smoothly.

I'm happy to continue too, I'm interested in seeing how the skills challenge side of things works out. That's a side of the game I'm not so confident at running, though have improved since the first one I did, I think, through reading more about them in extra publications. I still feel I have room for improvement so of course I'll be looking to pick up tips.

Froodle will be feasting for a long time on the stories of adventures with his new friends, hopefully we can carry on if you're all up for it.

As previously mentioned to Paul, having started to play Froodle sticking just to the basics of PHB1, I'm thinking now his character and history more suits a different style of fighter so as part of the level increase will try to reshape him.

As for getting to L30, yes that's where 4e characters aspire to retire with immortality, but the fun is in the play heading in that direction. If we never get there, but enjoy playing at the levels we are at, then that's good enough for me.
Rottimer Lind
player, 181 posts
Essentials Hunter
Martial/Primal Controller
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 14:08
  • msg #573

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Froodle (msg # 572):

Rottimer will be retiring for the time being. I had a lot of fun and appreciate everyones input and creativity. And especially Pauls willingness to guide us (and me) through the process of PBP. It was a great learning experience and I'm thankful to have had it. I'm going to crawl back in my hole now, lol.
Drake
player, 130 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 14:23
  • msg #574

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Froodle (msg # 572):

I’ve been playing some of my Runequest characters for 30 years and none of them have reached the 40 year old declining age .. many have died though. So level 30 is a possibility one day ... maybe shame Rottimer is retiring but it was fun.
Frug
player, 81 posts
Frug Tinker Artificer
Invoker of Onatar
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 18:04
  • msg #575

Re: The True Threat

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 570):

I’m going to be leveling up Frug and hope to continue the game, if it works with 3. It’s become a thing for my day and I would like to keep it going. I know that in the Facebook group, I came to understand how the play goes for this style of play. I’m enjoying how to write my powers in different ways. I was hoping that I would get one last shot in, with the dragon makings hit. I was going to have a +7 against that fortitude. Might try to get a power against a different stat. We can retrain one power right?
DM Paul
GM, 313 posts
Fri 9 Apr 2021
at 18:27
  • msg #576

Re: The True Threat

In reply to Frug (msg # 575):

You can retrain one power or one feat. Especially given how fluid groups of players can be, I'm open to even more changes. I think the rules limit it so that players don't change so much that there's no continuity.
Drake
player, 131 posts
Sat 10 Apr 2021
at 18:35
  • msg #577

Re: The True Threat

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 576):

Paul I’m looking at changing my paladin powers to the divine powers book version in essence changing an encounter power and my daily power, I’m gathering from your answer to Frug that you don’t mind this.

Also the gold cap dragon cloth .... what value / benefits does that have please?

I’m guessing the razor armour and gem will benefit Frug and Froodle? And obviously I’ll
Keep the Frost Longsword.?
DM Paul
GM, 315 posts
Sun 11 Apr 2021
at 00:56
  • msg #578

Re: The True Threat

Drake:
In reply to DM Paul (msg # 576):

Paul I’m looking at changing my paladin powers to the divine powers book version in essence changing an encounter power and my daily power, I’m gathering from your answer to Frug that you don’t mind this.

Right. Especially at very low level, more than one change per level doesn't concern me. People are still getting used to their characters.

Drake:
Also the gold cap dragon cloth .... what value / benefits does that have please?
None. It is merely an item that needs to be returned to its owner.

Drake:
I’m guessing the razor armour and gem will benefit Frug and Froodle? And obviously I’ll Keep the Frost Longsword.?

The jewel works with anyone, but yes it makes the most sense for Froodle to have the armor and Frug to have the jewel.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:56, Sun 11 Apr 2021.
DM Paul
GM, 316 posts
Sun 11 Apr 2021
at 00:59
  • msg #579

Re: The True Threat

Here's the link to the new game:
link to another game

Just request access, and look it over. I added some further thoughts about Sharn. I'm also asking players to put into words why their character thinks Sharn is worth sticking around in, why and how they want to see it prosper and what personal business or commitments they have.

This game will stick around, but consider copying out any details you need for your character. I am tracking the party XP numbers.

I'm going to see if we can get one or two more players. I'll let them know the roles that are currently covered. Frug, I'm assuming you won't mind too much if another person is either a leader or a controller, or a leader/controller.
Frug
player, 82 posts
Frug Tinker Artificer
Invoker of Onatar
Mon 12 Apr 2021
at 04:55
  • msg #580

Re: The True Threat

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 579):

I have the Gem in my character sheet now and I posted my backstory in the new game. See you all over there. I’m thinking that Geodesic, my artificer construct is going to be a invoker summons that is a new iteration for Frug in understanding what being an invoker means for him. My utility power is going to focus on HP.
I’m all good with others playing either or both of the roles that I am kind of playing. The hybrid is making a good backstory and reason for the powers changing.
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