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Out-of-character discussion.

Posted by DM PaulFor group 0
mbivens
player, 2 posts
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 18:24
  • msg #6

Out-of-character discussion.

I’m going gnome hybrid, with an artificer/invoker of Aureon. I couldn’t decide between leader or controller, but I love the concept of the the hybrid. Not going to be optimized, but should be fun.
DM Paul
GM, 10 posts
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 19:03
  • msg #7

Out-of-character discussion.

I'll open a space for you to post character details once you've created them. There's a private sheet that only you and I can see and public details anyone can see. You can also pick a portrait, but it's not required.

If you tell me your character name, I can change your name to that.

So far we have:
mbivens: Leader/Controller
Declan Williams: Defender

That's just FYI if you want to have a role to yourself. If you're not familiar with hybrid characters, I'd say that the party currently has half (more or less, depending) of both a leader and a controller, so more of both would still be useful.
Daddysauc3
player, 1 post
Sat 24 Oct 2020
at 23:26
  • msg #8

Out-of-character discussion.

Hi! I've DMed 4e thru several partial campaigns, including a current weekly-ish game for my wife and kids but I've only actually played 4e twice, (both Play-By-Posts) back before essentials released.

Had a Warlordmostly built, but then scrapped it for Maggie, a Kenku Bard, incessant whistler and hoarder of useless things.
Numspar
player, 1 post
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 16:12
  • msg #9

Out-of-character discussion.

Hi all

I’ve been gaming with Declan for over 30 years but playing Runequest.
In the last 4 years we’ve been playing d and d in a group with Declan being the DM.

One of our group also runs Cthulhu.

I’ve decided to generate a paladin to try and balance things out with a bit of healing as well.
DM Paul
GM, 11 posts
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 19:17
  • msg #10

Out-of-character discussion.

OK, we're looking at

Fighter, defender
Paladin, defender
Bard, leader
Artificer/Invoker, leader/controller

There's one other person who was invited who hasn't gotten back to me yet, but we could run with what we have if we wanted.

How is everyone's experience with 4th Edition? Like, do you think you'll have questions about powers, or how combat actions work? I was considering running a "test" combat, both to refresh people and demonstrate mapless combat.

I created character sheets for each of you. You can use those if you want to have the info handy, but you don't have to. I don't have a need to see your sheets unless you want me to review them.

Remember to suggest a level 3 item, and to make it useful for monsters if you want there to be a higher chance of me putting it in the game.
Numspar
player, 2 posts
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 22:09
  • msg #11

Out-of-character discussion.

Hi Paul

Yep I’d be happy to go for a ‘test’ especially to reinforce playing it mapless.

I’ve been playing 4th with Declan for a while.

I’ll update my sheet tomorrow 👍🏻
DM Paul
GM, 12 posts
Sun 25 Oct 2020
at 22:20
  • msg #12

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

Numspar:
Hi Paul

Yep I’d be happy to go for a ‘test’ especially to reinforce playing it mapless.

I’ve been playing 4th with Declan for a while.

I’ll update my sheet tomorrow 👍🏻

Cool, I'll set up something.

What are those codes at the end of your post?
Daddysauc3
player, 2 posts
Mon 26 Oct 2020
at 00:27
  • msg #13

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

Well, given the current roster, dying seems very unlikely. It may take us a year to kill anything tho :D
DM Paul
GM, 13 posts
Mon 26 Oct 2020
at 03:24
  • msg #14

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to Daddysauc3 (msg # 13):

If characters don't do much damage, monsters can risk more opportunity attacks and mark violations, speeding up the rate at which they take damage and allowing them to put it on softer targets.

That actually touches on something I usually like to ask players about: do you expect monsters to avoid opportunity attacks and obey fighter marks? Some people put it in terms of 5he monster's Intelligence, though I don't think Intelligence is really the same thing as tactical ability, and anyway I think a smart creature could see good reasons to take risks.

I usually think of it in terms of monster goals, but this adventure, as written, is about the monsters killing the PCs, Nothing I'd offered about their own self preservation. Which, if they had any, why would they fight at all. So, given this is meant to be simple and straightforward, I'll mostly focus on each individual group trying their best to kill the PCs.

Thoughts?
mbivens
player, 3 posts
Frug Tinker Artificer
Invoker of Aureon
Mon 26 Oct 2020
at 05:17
  • msg #15

Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 10):

I would be interested in a test combat because the dice tab doesn't make sense to me yet. I would like to get to know how to play mapless in 4E too. I feel that I am good on the way my powers work. I am going to be trying to stay back for ranged attacks mainly.
Does a burst attack provoke opportunity attacks? That may be my one power that I could use in melee, if it doesn't provoke.
DM Paul
GM, 14 posts
Mon 26 Oct 2020
at 06:15
  • msg #16

Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to mbivens (msg # 15):

The attacks that provoke opportunity attacks are ranged and area attacks.

Melee and close attacks do not provoke opportunity attacks.

Burst attacks can be area or close. If it's an area burst, then it provokes; if it's a close attack, it doesn't.
This message was last edited by the GM at 13:37, Mon 26 Oct 2020.
Numspar
player, 3 posts
Mon 26 Oct 2020
at 13:21
  • msg #17

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 12):

Those numbers and symbols were emoji’s ... they didn’t work :-)
Declan Williams
player, 2 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 09:13
  • msg #18

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 14):

Monsters should have some thought process
Though their goal is to kill the PCs, probably knowing they will die if sentient beings, they will attempt the task to the best of their ability - looking to weaken the PCs for their comrades if nothing else

so yes, play them as you would as a player with disposable minions, with a focus on the greater goal
Declan Williams
player, 3 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 09:14
  • msg #19

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

I'd also be happy to try a test combat, as this system of rpol is new to me
Numspar
player, 4 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 13:51
  • msg #20

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

Suggested magical items
Holy symbol - symbol of Battle level 5

Frost weapon - Frost long sword level 3
DM Paul
GM, 15 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 14:14
  • msg #21

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

Where is everyone on their characters?
Numspar
player, 5 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 16:23
  • msg #22

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 21):

I’ve created a character sheet a Dragonborn  Paladin called Drake.

What details are you wanting on RPoL on the character sheet section ; All the scores and details of feats powers etc?
This message was last edited by the player at 16:28, Tue 27 Oct 2020.
Declan Williams
player, 4 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 16:43
  • msg #23

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 21):

Mine's done, hasn't got a name yet but will do when I put info on

Is there a template you want us to use, or shall I just put something on and you can tell me if it's too much or too little
Declan Williams
player, 5 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 16:52
  • msg #24

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

suggested level 3 magic item - Adventurers vault p47 - Lifegiving plate armour
DM Paul
GM, 16 posts
Tue 27 Oct 2020
at 18:42
  • msg #25

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to Declan Williams (msg # 23):

There's no template I prefer. And I don't have a real bar for what's too much or too little. I don't really intend to look much at your characters, unless there's some clear mistake, like an armor class or damage roll that seems too high or too low.
Declan Williams
player, 6 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 16:01
  • msg #26

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

character description and sheet done
Numspar
player, 6 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 16:14
  • msg #27

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 21):

Character sheet all updated on rpol
DM Paul
GM, 17 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 16:21
  • msg #28

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to Declan Williams (msg # 26):

Cool. Do you have a name you want to use? Remind me of the race and class.
DM Paul
GM, 18 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 18:41
  • msg #29

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

I just added another player. I'll let them introduce themselves.

If we can finish character by the end of the week, I can start the practice combat on Monday. Once that's over, we can check and see how people feel, adjust as needed, and get into the actual game.
Declan Williams
player, 7 posts
Wed 28 Oct 2020
at 19:03
  • msg #30

Re: Out-of-character discussion.

In reply to DM Paul (msg # 28):

Name is Froodle, a dragonborn fighter
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