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Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 5 posts
Wed 2 Dec 2020
at 13:08
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You know what to do here...
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 1 post
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 02:38
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Will touch on the development thread soon. The character is firmly established, so it'll just be taking the time to right it all out.

This message was last edited by the player at 02:39, Fri 04 Dec 2020.

Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 6 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 05:03
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Cool. Feel free to jump into character creation.

Not sure what level youíre envisioning. 6th is pretty good for competent but not too powerful.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 2 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 05:08
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That's about what I was thinking, it's a good level for solo, and allows for some decent mechanical character development. I prefer rolling stats to an array, but I also don't trust the RPoL dice roller to not do me dirty, so it's a wash.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 7 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 13:24
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Whatís your dislike of an array?
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 3 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 15:40
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Mostly personal preference, but it also assumes an end result of random generation that I've very rarely ever seen play out using the typical modern d20 random generation system (4d6d1).
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 8 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 17:21
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I see that.

To me, it represents an ideal. A couple of good stats, a couple of middling stats, a null, and a dump. Rolling, youíre either going to get all good, all bad, or a mix. No one wants all bad. And to me all good is no fun.

The array is also good with multiple players to provide fairness, which we donít need here.

If youíd prefer to roll, I donít really have a problem with that. You can keep rolling sets as long as you keep it all in a set.

Set 1 4d6 drop lowest
11:18, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 14 using 4d6 with rolls of 2,2,4,6.
11:18, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 18 using 4d6 with rolls of 6,5,3,4.
11:18, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 9 using 4d6 with rolls of 1,4,2,2.
11:18, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 13 using 4d6 with rolls of 6,4,2,1.
11:18, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 14 using 4d6 with rolls of 2,3,5,4.
11:18, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 12 using 4d6 with rolls of 6,1,3,2.

4d6 reroll 1s
11:17, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 15 using 4d6, rerolling ones with rolls of 3,{1}4,5,3. 12
11:17, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 12 using 4d6, rerolling ones with rolls of 4,3,2,3. 10
11:17, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 17 using 4d6, rerolling ones with rolls of 6,2,4,{1}5. 15
11:17, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 16 using 4d6, rerolling ones with rolls of 6,2,6,2. 14
11:17, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 16 using 4d6, rerolling ones with rolls of {1}5,3,4,4. 13
11:17, Today: Oracle of The Whills rolled 17 using 4d6, rerolling ones with rolls of {1}4,2,6,5. 15

Honestly, I prefer the array, but I donít care that much. Use whatever you feel most comfortable with. Hell, if you donít like the dice roller, just roll on your end with real dice. Iíll trust you to be honest.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 4 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 21:02
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I might tinker with it a bit when I have some time, to try to get a better idea of how the RPoL roller behaves with random stat generation. Like I mentioned, though, it's mostly just a preference thing and is largely inconsequential. Nothing to spend too much time thinking about.

quote:
Iíll trust you to be honest.


Warning: Expect the following to be unabashed design nerdery that can be safely ignored at your discretion.

From a purely conversational standpoint (as I don't intend to cheat my rolls) would it matter if I wasn't? That's the interesting thing about solo games - since they're balanced against a single player, rather than a group, there's no unfair advantage to be had. Good, even absurdly great, ability scores will only get you so far, anyway. I've got extensive experience running and playing in d20 games where no one has an ability score under 18 (supers-ish), and it really  doesn't change things as much as one might think.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 5 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 21:24
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Well.

15:04, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 15 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:04, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 15 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:04, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 7 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:04, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 16 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:04, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 10 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:04, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 16 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.

15:06, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 15 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:06, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 10 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:06, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 10 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:06, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 15 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:06, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 16 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:06, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 12 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.

15:07, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 14 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:07, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 12 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:07, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 16 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:07, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 16 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:07, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 12 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.
15:07, Today: Errolyn Ebonmar rolled 14 using 4d6, dropping the lowest dice only.

Apparently today's ol' Errolyn's day. 61% of rolls are a 14 or higher, and only one roll below 10 across all three sets. Total score points of 79, 78, and 84. Very little deviation. Interesting.

With your permission, what might work to introduce a bit more variety into the stats is to take that last set, decrease the 12s to a 10 and an 8, and increase one of the 16s to an 18. Thoughts?
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 9 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 21:35
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Thatís fine by me.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 6 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 21:44
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Now to refamiliarize myself with RCR... I've missed it, really. Far less concerned with a false sense of "balance" as Saga, and with actual time left in the license to get proper editing and errata. Ah, production values, how I've missed thee!
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 10 posts
Fri 4 Dec 2020
at 22:25
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I put a link to a Java script character creator thatís pretty good.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 12 posts
Sat 5 Dec 2020
at 21:49
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Iím assuming youíll want a ship?
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 7 posts
Sun 6 Dec 2020
at 07:13
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Yeah, probably a good idea. I'm good with it being purchased with a loan from <insert crime lord here>, winnings from a game of sabaac, or even starting without one and having the opportunity to "acquire" one early on.

My personal favorite light freighter for Errolyn is the YT-1930, for which I have an updated deckplan by the ship's original (uncredited) creator. I believe RCR has stats for one. If not, they should be pretty easy to whip up, since it's statted in both WEG and Saga.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 13 posts
Sun 6 Dec 2020
at 14:07
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In reply to Errolyn Ebonmar (msg # 14):

Letís say itís a family vehicle you ďborrowedĒ.

Can you send me deck plans you have? Iíll take a look for some stats.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 14 posts
Sun 6 Dec 2020
at 14:33
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Looks like itís just a modified yt1300.

Double cargo, better shields, better engines. I think maybe lowered maneuverability for the extra cargo weight.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 8 posts
Sun 6 Dec 2020
at 23:36
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RCR Web Enhancement with the YT-1930's official stats: https://drive.google.com/file/...idJ/view?usp=sharing

Deckplan: https://drive.google.com/file/...ypP/view?usp=sharing

This message was last edited by the player at 23:37, Sun 06 Dec 2020.

Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 9 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 07:58
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Just a heads-up that I have contracted some variety of winter-is-bullshit-disease. I absolutely loathe being conscious at the moment, but it should pass within a few days.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 17 posts
Tue 8 Dec 2020
at 22:27
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No worries. Iím terribly crushed at work this week.

Hope you get to feeling better.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 18 posts
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 16:17
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How are you feeling?
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 10 posts
Sun 13 Dec 2020
at 23:25
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Mostly better. Been swamped since I picked things back up, but I'm making progress on my end. I've been active, just not here where you can see it. Tinkering with some different ways of going about what I want.

Build is pretty much guaranteed to be Noble/Scoundrel, just working out the details. Been a while since I've worked with the 3.X skill system, so it's taking some... adjustment.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 19 posts
Wed 16 Dec 2020
at 22:46
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Are you gonna want some kind of NPC sidekick? Possibly a droid or loyal servant? Or are you a loner?
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 11 posts
Thu 17 Dec 2020
at 03:20
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Other incarnations have had a butler, the Star Wars version being a <a href="https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/3D-4X_administrative_droid">3D-4X administrative droid</a> by the name BR-T13B (Bartleby).
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 20 posts
Thu 17 Dec 2020
at 03:37
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That seems reasonable.

Was he basically just a personal assistant droid, or did he have other functions?
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 21 posts
Thu 17 Dec 2020
at 05:04
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I gave Bartleby 2 levels of soldier, which, to be honest, doesnít give him much. But it seems appropriate. So he can fly the ship, shoot a gun (not incredibly well), and I also gave him a secret retractable vibrodagger for self defense.

Hereís his stat block:

BR-T13B
3D-4X Administrative Droid Expert 1/Soldier 2, Init +0, Defense 11 (+1 Class),
Spd 8m, VP/WP 22/13, Atk +2 melee (2d4 vibrodagger) or +2 ranged (3d4 holdout
blaster), Save Fort +4 Ref +0 Will +2, Rep +1.
ST 10 DX 10 CN 13 IN 14 WS 10 CH 16.

Skills: Appraise (int) +6, Bluff (cha) +10, Computer Use (int) +6,
Diplomacy (cha) +10, Entertain (cha) +7, Gamble (wis) +4, Gather Information
(cha) +7, Intimidate (cha) +7, Pilot (dex) +6, Repair (int) +6.

Feats: Ambidexterity, Skill Emphasis (Diplomacy), Skill Emphasis
(Bluff), Simple Weapons, Light Armor, Blaster Pistols, Blaster Rifles,
Vibro Weapons, Heavy Weapons, Starship Operation (Transports)

Languages: Speak Basic, Speak Binary

Equipment:
 Translator Unit (DC5)
 Recording Unit (audio)
 Vocabulator
 Retractable Vibro Dagger
 Holdout Blaster

This message was last edited by the GM at 05:06, Thu 17 Dec 2020.

Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 12 posts
Thu 17 Dec 2020
at 05:24
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Sorry, was being a "responsible GM" for a live game.

He was primarily a personal assistant/pilot, but depending on the incarnation, had other functions. In a Saga game my SO ran, he was a Noble into the Independent Droid class and provided technical support as well as his typical administrative functions.

The stat block certainly looks reasonable to me.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 22 posts
Thu 17 Dec 2020
at 14:53
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He sort of works as an all around assistant. Useful skills across a fairly wide spectrum.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 13 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 03:43
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Agreed. Seems a very good fit for Bartleby's concept. Thanks for taking care of it for me.

Working on the character now. Might I suggest a house rule for multiclassing? Essentially bringing it in line with the way that Pathfinder does things and eliminating some of the headaches that 3.X-style multiclassing has in the math department.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 23 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 04:41
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Such as?
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 15 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 06:10
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It just gets rid of all the fiddly math that is class skills between multiple classes. Essentially, if something is a class skill, it's a class skill, and costs class skill costs, rather than having to remember that, for instance, while your Noble/Soldier has Diplomacy as a class skill through Noble, when you're leveling Soldier, ranks in Diplomacy cost double.

Gives a slight advantage over RAW, since multiclass skills become cheaper, but it's only a marginal improvement. It's not a monumental need, it's just appealing because I'm lazy.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 17 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 06:20
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On a related note, I appreciate that you're both patient and accommodating. I had forgotten just how long it had been since I last played RCR, and I've been swamped by my GMing commitments. Two of my live groups decided to start new campaigns this week, and I'll likely have a third do the same next week.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 25 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 14:12
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Thatís fine on the class skill thing. Once it is a class skill, it is a class skill. I think thatís how it should be anyway. Actually, the way I would personally do it for a 6th level character is just figure out what all your class skills are and then your total number of points. Then you know you have a Max of +9 in any class skill.

Using that Path Guy link I shared really simplifies the process. You can stat a character in 15 minutes.
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 18 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 23:04
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Pathfinder 1e's skill system was a significant improvement over 3.X d20, in my opinion. The skill max = level was a nice touch, too (+3 misc bonus to class skills to represent the x4 skills at first level thing), but it does make you lose out on a little bit of versatility at low-levels, being able to spread out those initial points.

I have a dinner to go to tonight for my girlfriend's parents' anniversary, but I should be able to get my sheet polished off when I get home afterwards.

What're we doing for post-first-level starting credits?
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 26 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 23:08
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In reply to Errolyn Ebonmar (msg # 33):

I donít want to mess with the pathfinder skills thing if thatís ok. However, I forgot I prefer Perception over listen and spot and stealth over move silently and hide.

So if you have listen or spot as class skills, you have Perception instead. And same with Move silently and hide - switch to stealth. Stealthy feat goes away (you could do skill emphasis )
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 27 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 23:13
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For money, why donít you tell me what equipment you want or what you think is appropriate. And you can maybe have 500 credits on top of that?
Errolyn Ebonmar
 player, 19 posts
Sat 19 Dec 2020
at 23:25
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I wasn't meaning to suggest swapping entirely to the Pathfinder skill system. The swap to Perception and Stealth, though... Life-savers.

quote:
For money, why donít you tell me what equipment you want or what you think is appropriate. And you can maybe have 500 credits on top of that?


Yeah, I can do that. I'm usually very gear-oriented, but I'll behave.
Oracle of The Whills
 GM, 30 posts
Thu 31 Dec 2020
at 15:55
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Just need to sort out gear and weapons. Also need to name your ship.