Welcome!

Heyo, all~!

I've got a few loose ideas I might try for...

Fungus Leshy
Storm Druid

(not strictly the same character, though) - Plus a bunch of others, potentially.

Got tabletop in a few hours so no time to shape the exact character just yet, but that'll be tomorrow~!

Worth noting: Great PF material reference here: https://2e.aonprd.com/
This message was last edited by the player at 22:36, Thu 10 Dec 2020.

Stealthy little catfolk over here.

Kitty~!

If folks are looking for a good character generator Pathbuilder 2E is awesome. Unfortunately it is only available for android.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:37, Fri 11 Dec 2020.

I'll be trying out my favorite class: a Monk! I should be able to finish it once I'm home.

I have a 'tabletop' 2e monk who's a ton of fun :D  Speedy and strong.

I think I'm going to go for a Storm Druid, I'm *not* sure what race, yet.

Been talking with one of the players about druids and metal, and I would like to say that if there is a "setting limit" or anything mechanics wise you think doesn't make sense, mention it!

If the divine casters don't want gods but rather some other way of getting their power, that's okay!

I'm a huge fan of using exploration and finding hidden tomes and secrets to learn new abilities and spells, instead of arbitrary "you level up and instantly learn 3 new spells loosely explained by downtime"

You really sound like my ideal kind of GM! Thank you so much for stepping up for this.

Edit: I put this in the wrong thread. Moved.
This message was last edited by the player at 02:10, Fri 11 Dec 2020.

No problem! And thank you guys. I tried getting into pathfinder 1e with my table top group but they had years of experience and PF 1e had so many books and variant rules and they loved power gaming so it just overwhelmed me haha

2e though looks great, just enough crunch for me but still simple enough that I don't feel overwhelmed. Maybe I'll even be able to try 1e again!

I'm game for frontier town, I just didn't know if that was an overdone concept. Really the only thing I was trying to achieve by saying it was a town of isolation is because

A) I wanted a "home base" for the players because knowing how popular Pathfinder is here, I'm assuming we will end up having a fairly large number of players, which means we may end up splitting into different parties. Rather than trying to track each party in an entire world I wanted to be able to have a central "return point" for everyone to mingle and sell loot buy new gear etc. Additional settlements to visit are perfectly okay. As long ad there's a compelling reason to return to the main city I'm happy!

B) I wanted to give us the ability to make up things as we go, this is two fold. One I didn't want us to have to come up with explanations for everything right from the start, this takes a lot off my workload and we can still create a new world. Second, I wanted to give everyone a chance to have input, make the setting their own, and allow for maximum immersion.

All of this can be done with a frontier mind set easily

C) Have a good reason for ancient ruins and unexplored territories, and the chance for me to create some new creatures and monsters, I'd also like the game to have some areas that are just a "higher level" . Maybe this patch of woods has more dangerous creatures living there, or this dungeon has mostly a small community of goblins and ogres but in the bottom there's an ancient dragon that if the party awakens it will leave the dungeon and roam about, attacking anyone it crosses. Now everyone in the game has to be on the watch for a marauding ancient dragon. Perhaps prices go up because it burns the local fields and causes a food shortage.



This is separate, but I plan to incorporate a reputation system that is based on a characters in game actions. If a player steals from a shopkeeper and gets caught, they will be rumored to be a thief down the road, causing NPCs and others to be more cautious with valuables around them.

And while thinking about it, I want to mention that I'll be doing skill checks differently than they are now. Skill checks won't be based off a d20 roll, but instead the characters skill modifier plus 10 will be used for checks, unless the player wishes to risk failing a roll to possibly be able to get a higher result than their "static" result.

The dice roller is a b*tch, all I have to say :D

That said, combat checks will be as normal, to account for things like stress of combat, limited time, and chaos.

I like the idea of a 'passive skill' option whenever it's unopposed or something, but if there's a case of two characters having a conflicting skill check (Stealth v persuasion, ect) I'd prefer they both roll I think. Maybe also in the case of  notable foes V players.  I like the reliability flavor of passive skills, though. Some skills like medicine definitely can benefit from being rolled and having the chance for critical success.  (which, I guess in 2e is possible if you're statted the right way :D)

Certainly, you guys are always welcome to roll instead of taking a static result, I just know there's nothing more frustrating than the dice roller making your intelligence 18 wizard look dumb because he can't seem to have any answers about history checks or whatever.

Any opposed checks will always be rolled, rather than combat I should say any opposed check must be rolled, whereas out of combat or "stressful" situations passive checks are perfectly okay

I'm onboard with that.

BTW, are you doing hero points, and if so, how do you want to handle the fact that there's usually a 1 point drip per 'session'?  I think my 'table' had a house rule about them, too, but I'd need to go check to see if it's worth proposing.

Greetings everyone. I am Talathel Eoleth an elven ranger, I haven't made a sheet yet, but for the most part he will be an archer and hunter. I don't have the best posting rate, overall, active more here and there as opposed to all the time, but I will try my best to carry on with everyone.

I am new to Pathfinder 2e, but have been roleplaying for about 20 years now and am very experienced with D&D 2, 3, 3.5, and 5, Pathfinder 1e, and about 15-20 other systems here and there, anything to have a fun game with people.

I look forward to meeting your characters and having a blast role playing with you all, and perhaps some standard adventuring thrown in for good measure here and there.

Welcome aboard~!

BTW, I *think* I've decided to settle on a Halfling Tsunderestorm Druid :D

I was thinking about that, and I think I'll give everyone 3 to start with, and then just give them out as a see fit for certain milestones or especially good roleplaying.

Tsunderestorm you say? Sounds rather kinky if you ask me. :P

Even with your ideas for evil characters (which works well), I hope we don't have any. I really don't like trying to make that work.

Yeah, and looking at it, I think the law/chaos axis is flawed in terms of it all feels evil, even neutral.  I don't think it's hard to justify calling for players who aren't looking to play against each other. I'd very much like to do that, actually.

Certainly, and I don't think we have anyone who wishes to play as one, but it will at least give everyone a better understanding of "evil" NPCS they may meet, who aren't necessarily villains who must be vanquished (although a lawful good champion might say otherwise), but simply tend towards being willing to do anything to reach their goals.

I've never been a huge fan of alignment in the first place, it is a very limiting idea that often pits characters against one another for no reason other than being lawful vs chaotic, or good vs evil.

Generally though I've found most players to be pretty cooperative with their party members. There's always a few outliers though haha

EDIT: Clarified the alignment post a bit more
This message was last edited by the GM at 06:27, Fri 11 Dec 2020.

Oh heck I'm in! Nice!

Hello, I'm Mezzeline and I will be attempting to navigate both PF 2E and the oracle class. Looking forward to seeing all the kinds of shenanigans we get up to.

I've had a few positive experiences with some fellow players playing some characters playing the system's version of Lawful Evil, but most evil characters I've found to be little more than a thinly veiled excuse to be a jerk to everyone. I also dislike pvp and cvc.

Oh, and welcome Mezzaline. The more the merrier.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:35, Fri 11 Dec 2020.

Evil's kind of hard to balance unless the whole party is evil, and even then it's tricky. Like Talathel says, most people use it as an excuse to be complete jackasses because it's 'in-character'.

@Talathel - PVP I'm familiar with, but what is CVC?

Welcome indeed!

I'm so excited I just want to burst. I've been really wanting to try this out from a player's perspective and learn the game. I have this Monk, but would like to play a Druid sometime. Still, what's exciting is the idea of getting to play in a game that focuses on exploration and immersion as much as hack-and-slash.

Character v Character. I have my art picked out. I'm fishing for names and finishing character sheet, while getting background together in my head.

https://i.postimg.cc/ry01m9Nz/Tsunderstorm1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/2yZhKzSn/Tsunderestorm2.png

I think her face is more like #1, the rest of her is more like #2, minus gloves.
This message was last edited by the player at 07:25, Fri 11 Dec 2020.

I have played NE as well as LE characters who worked with Good parties on a couple of occasions. It wasn't until a cleric did a ward vs Evil that my NE character got outed.
People who use it as an excuse to be an ass are forgetting that there are real people who are riding the bus with them, selling them coffee, interacting with them every day who would fall under NE or LE alignments. Lots of people are "Evil" when you look at it as how selfish they are. It is only Chaotic Evil that does evil for the fun of it.

I think the only time I've ever seen an all evil party work in the long term was the Hell's Vengeance adventure path, and even then you still risk CE jerks.

Is there a specific character sheet we're using? And follow up, were we provided with one?

I don't know if there's a specific one. I go for very streamlined for mine. If you want the format, you can have it.

Name
"Quote."

Ancestry • Background • Class 1 • XP 0
Size • Alignment • Traits

Abilities
Strength 10 (+0)
Dexterity 10 (+0)
Constitution 10 (+0)
Intelligence 10 (+0)
Wisdom 10 (+0)
Charisma 10 (+0)

Boosts: Ancestry - ; Background - ; Class - ; Free -


Adventuring & Combat
HP 0/0
Perception +0 • TEML 0 • Wis 0 • Item 0
Senses
Speed 0 feet
Class DC 10 • TEML 0 • Base 10 • Dex 0 • Item 0

Armor and Shields —
AC 10 • TEML 0 • Base 10 • Dex 0 • Item 0
Trained: -

Shield +0 • Hardness 0 • HP 0/0

Saving Throws —
• Fortitude +0 • TEML 0 • Con 0 • Item 0
• Reflex +0 • TEML 0 • Dex 0 • Item 0
• Will +0 • TEML 0 • Wis 0 • Item 0

Weapon Proficiencies
• Trained:

Attack +0 • TEML 0 • Dex 0 • Item 0 • Damage 1d0 • Notes

Skills
Acrobatics +0 • TEML 0 • Dex 0 • Item 0
Arcana +0 • TEML 0 • Int 0 • Item 0
Athletics +0 • TEML 0 • Str 0 • Item 0 • Armor -0
Crafting +0 • TEML 0 • Int 1 • Item 0
Deception +0 • TEML 0 • Cha 0 • Item 0
Diplomacy +0 • TEML 0 • Cha 0 • Item 0
Intimidation +0 • TEML 0 • Cha 0 • Item 0
Lore: Warfare +0 • TEML 0 • Int 0 • Item 0
Medicine +0 • TEML 0 • Wis 0 • Item 0
Nature +0 • TEML 0 • Wis 0 • Item 0
Occultism +0 • TEML 0 • Int 0 • Item 0
Performance +0 • TEML 0 • Cha 0 • Item 0
Religion +0 • TEML 0 • Wis 0 • Item 0
Society +0 • TEML 0 • Int 0 • Item 0
Stealth +0 • TEML 0 • Dex 0 • Item 0
Survival +0 • TEML 0 • Wis 0 • Item 0
Thievery +0 • TEML 0 • Dex 0 • Item 0

Languages: Common

Abilities
Ability • Type • Notes

Feats
Feat • Type 1 • Notes

Spells & Powers
Spell Attack +0 • TEML 0 • Wis 0
Spell DC 10 • TEML 0 • Base 10 • Wis 0
Focus Points 0/0

Inventory
Money: 15 GP
Bulk 0/0 • Enc 5 (5 + Str 0) • Max 10 (10 + Str 0)

Gear
Item • Bulk 0 • Notes

Arms and Armor
Item • Bulk 0 • Notes
This message was last edited by the player at 07:53, Fri 11 Dec 2020.

I'm making mine on Mythweavers.

I had forgotten all about mythweavers.

@Aeris - Copypasta'd and thankyou!

Hmm, I think for my Storm Druid, I'm going to replace the focus of holly and mistletoe with a magnetized stone and a metal wand.

As a Small Character with 8 Strength, hard carry rules are really rough (The only other experience I have is a VERY Strengthy monk girl... it's real different)   How intensive do you want to be about carry weight, especially when some of it is campy supplies?

(Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing like a flat buff to carry bulk in general, if others think it's a decent idea.)

Let me go over the bulk rules some more and I'll see if there's something we can do. Don't forget you guys can have pack animals and things to help with carrying supplies.

I'm not usually very nitty gritty with carrying things but I do want there to be an element of survival in the wilderness and having to eat sleep etc with limited supplies.

In reply to Game Master (msg # 33):

Sure :D

Str 8 means you're encoumbered at 4  Bulk. The basicl adventurer's pack is 2 by itself, my shield was 1, and I was able to specifically buy just enough other stuff to keep it to exactly 4 bulk.  I have a third of my money left, and didn't really have room to buy neat camping stuff like a tent or anything, though.

Actually, correction,I paid the wrong price for potions because the game has to cycle between SP and GP prices, and so I should probably drop one potion  entirely and only have the one.  I need to look over the primal spell list, too, and decide if I should grab Medicine :D

Me, too. And I do want to test out the rules largely as they are, but I also don't want a fellow player to suffer. We'll have to figure out something!

I could just use one of my level 1 spells for ant haul for 8 hour +3 bulk, I realize, looking at my spell list. But yeah, I only get 2 currently. It wouldn't be so bad if we were in an explicit party context, since one of the big strong people could help :)

This message was deleted by the player at 17:05, Fri 11 Dec 2020.

So about the party, how is that gonna work? Because I do want to group up with people, in which case we could help.

I definitely want to party up, too. I think the idea is just 'the party might vary' for each given adventure?  everyone is running out of the main town, and comes back there and their next adventure may be with different allies?

I wouldn't mind a more dedicated, smaller party that has a longer adventure together, though.

There we go, fixed my GP and potion count on my sheet - I'm at bulk 3.9 now, so it's actually a moot point immediately, but if I pick up literally any treasure, it  will become an issue :D

The game isn't overflowing with players so everyone can stay in one party if we'd like, or split up into two parties. I just got to work but I'll keep checking in throughout the day

Sounds good. Mind giving me a name change, when you get a second? :D

I am all for staying in one party for now. If we get a bunch more people and our illustrious GM feels up to running multiple parties then we may want to think about that in the future.

A party start wouldn't hurt I don't think. We can be the first wave of 'new' settlers to Sandboxia and as the game grows new players can be the following waves, plus it gives GM control over how many players they want at a given time AND makes for a convenient scapegoat for player dropouts.

I may be overthinking things.

Greetings your  friendly arcane spell chucker here.

Heyo.

Welcome. Always good to have some arcane assistance.

Looks like we got a monk, ranger, rogue, oracle, druid, and some sort of arcane caster. So who's the tank? Our Monk? I am more a backliner since I am planning on archery ranger. We have plenty of divine/nature magic and some arcane magic, so if the monk has decent HP and AC then we could be a good scouting group for the village.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:23, Sat 12 Dec 2020.

Monk is likely the tankiest out of all of us depending on druid build and I guess Oracle build, but I think the way this'll come together Mezzy will be more support than front line, but we still have a decently balanced party.

I've never been a fan of the Wild Shape playstyle. I love that it's optional. :D

As a Tsundere Storm Druid, I will shock things. And, I guess, I'll heal you some. Don't get the wrong idea, though. It's not like I like you or anything.

Not to worry, I already have my tsundere translation program installed. ;)

Yare yare daze...

In all honesty, that's kind of an aspiration rather than what will probably come out in full, I just got the wordplay for it in mind ages ago when I first read the PF2e  core, and am finally trying it out :D

There we go. Got a description of her up :D

Hello everyone.  An oddball Gnome Witch who is still figuring her life out signing in.  How is everyone?

Doing alright.  <3

Doing a lot better since we got set up for this awesome game!

If the GM wants to get a name for the settlement, maybe we could all start maybe contributing ideas for one notable establishment (related or not to our character, maybe it should be something our character frequents) and an NPC idea or two  for that location  to help the GM 'build' the hometown to have stuff we'll want to engage with in it?

(@GM, if the idea of having a bunch of NPCs handed to you worries you there's one cool piece of advice I've found to try - try taking the idea outlines of NPCs that seem like they'd fit and merge them to create one more interesting NPC.)

Just spitballing an idea to help the GM build stuff for the main setting, though, if the GM has other intents or plans to do it, I'm all for it too.

Hello.

Tremble before the mighty Guardian of Autumn's Harvest

...a three-foot Leshy with a pumpkin head here to solve your lack-of-Barbarian problems.

You can call him Jack.

Yes

I almost went for a fungus Leshy: https://i.pinimg.com/originals...b8f611c9711a7015.jpg
This message was last edited by the player at 20:26, Sat 12 Dec 2020.

You guys should definitely think of town features and NPCs you'd like to meet. If you want, you're welcome to tell me what portrait you think would be a good fit.

I've got a busy day but I should be able to get some more posts up later today or tomorrow for sure. So please feel free to blow the threads up and talk things out while I'm away. I may be the GM but I think its cool to take as much input from the players first before writing things in stone :)

Welcome to our new players as well!

One of them wishes to play an 11 year old girl, so I'll need to check on rpols guidelines to make sure its feasible if you know anything about where that like is drawn let me know and I'll look at the site policies.


Also, we now have 9 players and a possible 10th, who wants to play a more frontline character but is still working things out. So we may end up being a 2 party game but everyone will all start together.

RPoL faqs (maturepolicy)

Essentially: Don't imply anything naughty anywhere in the general direction of the young character and it's not really a huge issue.

First off - Heck yes pumpkin barbarian! I love it!

Second - Sani beat me to it, but the TOS is pretty clear on what is and isn't okay for a mature game, and RP'ing a child is fine as long as it doesn't break any site rules. It'll be an interesting character choice, that's for sure.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:29, Sun 13 Dec 2020.

BTW, dunno if it's intended, but the Reputation thread is locked.

So, I need some advice from persons better versed in the rules.

I'm looking into the Giant Instinct for Barbarians, which let's me drag around a "large" weapon and use it in combat.

However it doesn't look like this actually gives any benefits to the weapon.  There's some talk of "upgrading the damage dice" or "giving the weapon 'reach'" on the internet.  But I can't find it anywhere in the rules proper.

So, my questions are threefold.
1. IS there any benefit to wielding a large weapon inherent to the weapon itself?
2. Does reach stack? I've got a feat that gives me stretchy-arms (and therefore reach), if I wield a polearm does that give me 15 feet of reach?
3. If there is no reason to take the Giant Instinct, which would you recommend I take instead?
I'm divided be between the Dragon (because the only thing better than a Pumpkin Barbarian is a Pumpkin Barbarian that breathes fire) and the Spirit (which makes thematic sense, and plays into the quasi-mystical nature of being a Leshy).

Any advice would be welcome.

Checked with a friend of mine on what you've asked.

1) The item's Price and Bulk is X2, but its actual stats don't change. Giant Instinct increases rage damage from +2 to +6, and you are Clumsy 1 wielding it.  I could see making this a little better maybe, though that's more the GM's domain. This was checked with a GM I play with, but not OUR GM, so it may be handled differently here.

2) Regarding Reach, I'd say you've got two 'reachy components', noodle arms and the thing held by the noodle arms. I'd say you'd take your best 'noodle arms' reach and add the reach for what's in those noodle arms. (IE, I think a limited stacking makes sense, where logical)  This answer is my interpretation, though, not based on bookdiving.

I can't say I have a position on #3.

Guess I should have been a bit more specific.  I am a Universalist Wizard,.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=...Sm-0pjaimkyPbKltZXRM


There's a link to a Reddit post talking about that exact question!

Ran into some connectivity issues with my internet but all is good now. I'm getting threads set up now.

Also, I will open up the reputation thread!

2 new players joined today!
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:28, Mon 14 Dec 2020.

Thanks for that.  It's what I was expecting (and dreading).  Welp, back to the drawing board.

Hello I'm playing a hard working cleric of a peaceful goddess I'm working on her.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:39, Mon 14 Dec 2020.

Hey there, everyone! Playing a witch who potentially lives in a weird little shack on the outskirts of town. Can’t wait to see where this all goes!

Welcome Vysol!

Are you interested in a character connection?  Because I have a murder-moppet in need of an absent-minded creator.

@ Jessica

This message was last edited by the player at 05:45, Mon 14 Dec 2020.

Jessica is neutral good. She may be able to create fire but she is not a vandal nor a psychopath. :)

Sani probably wouldn't have made GoAH, alas.

I do like the idea of trying to form some character connections, though. Sani  is currently only somewhat developed.

I know that she's the daughter of a halfling family and there's reasonable speculation that she might be half-halfling half-elf. She was struck by lightning as a girl and survived, which is where the name and the scar come from, and also where her fascination with storms came from. She became a druid as such. I wonder if one of the other characters here could've healed her, that was about 15 years ago or so, probably.

I notice she's about an inch shorter than Jessica, which is just great.

Her druidic practices don't preclude metal as a thing, and in fact her version of a primal focus is actually a naturally magnetic stone and a metal wand which it adheres to but can 'roll along'

Alignment, I'm still waffling on. I know it's in the 'Neutral Good to Chaotic Neutral' box. She has an aloof, standoffish nature - she helps out and does adventuring jobs, but she's not typically dramatically friendly with most people, but there can be exceptions.



In her description, the thing with a halfling with smooth and non-hairy feet. I've always loved the idea that that's a 'cultural thing' that 'says stuff/stereotypes' about the halflings who do take care of their feet, but in her case, it's a result of that half-elven-ness... but there's still room for people to be weirdly fetishistic about it. Probably not a thing that will come up, but a random idea I have regarding it.

Oooh, I love it! We can hammer out the details as needed, but that would definitely make sense for this guardian to be/have been one of her projects.

In reply to Sani Stormstruck (msg # 71):

All those vines and memes just faithfully waiting to be recreated in D&D.

"What have you got?"
"A Fireball!"
"NO~!"

Gm, regarding the 'limited communication' of common - might be good to remember how hard languages are to come by in 2e, especially if you're not intelligence-based. I think given we're looking at kind of a community, that community would probably have viable common languages to work with? I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but I am curious what kind of limits you're thinking for the common language.


Also, hmm.. Vysol, your character has been around and is old enough. Do you think she'd be the sort of person people might go to if someone got hurt? It's possible she healed Sani up when she was younger?

Some behind the scenes work proved to take significantly longer than I expected, but I did make one public post about languages, it needs to be prettied up. It's just a list of possible languages, along with some additions of my own, namely -

Ancient: An unknown language that will come up in the game

Elder: Basically the old worlds language, this is what most historians of old times wrote in. Will come up in research during game

Sign: basically sign language, useful for stealthy encounters



Also, we will be using the language groups function. I think it is a fantastic tool and will really help immersion. I'm going to keep common as the default language, but I really want to use other languages as much as possible. I prefer to think of common as a very difficult language to communicate in, especially complex ideas. I will generally do -2 to any rolls using common to negotiate or trade.



I won't be able to get the game started yet as I still need to do a few things but we are very close. I just need to finish the opening sequence, post some setting details, and then we should be good to go!

I'll be checking everyones sheets as I go along, and will message anyone if I have questions.



EDIT: Yes, I am working on house rules for languages, but I'm thinking it'll be along the lines of you speak any language(s) granted by class and ancestry, plus 2 X INT mod. Players will be able to learn new languages and purchase potions to understand other languages

In regards to immersion, I imagine that in a fantasy world children are taught multiple languages simply because of how many different sentient species there are. I'll allow for common to be used, I just want to utilise different languages for more than exploring dungeons and always defaulting to common during any social interaction.

I hope I'm not the only one to come out and say that I don't think crippling the Common tongue is a good idea. PF2e's limited stat spreads mean that investing in Intelligence if you're not an Int-Based class is a luxury, and not something that this is going to work well with, in my opinion. I'm facing the choice of 'do I drop my charisma back to 10 and give up the 'okay at social skills' feel for int so I can get a couple of languages that won't be penalized?' I don't think it's a very good place to be in.

I also don't think it really matches the feel of a settlement that has put down roots on the coastline of a new continent and grown together with a diverse group of people for a good 50+ years, but all the people of various races who aren't intelligence-invested can't talk to each other without a struggle?

The only way I might be able to find a way to be okay with this is if the methods of getting languages were accessible, affordable, and not bound to 2e's feat system, because forcing the use of limited character ability resources on languages in this way would feel really awful, I think.


Personally, I'm also really not a fan of RPOL's Language system, and I don't want to have to utilize it. But if that's what people overall want to do, that's fine.  I figured I should at least voice why I'm having an issue with the idea of making common bad, in case anyone else is similarly displeased by it and afraid to speak up.  If anyone was doing a social character concept, this is a huge additional consideration as well, and I know at least some of us are already done with chargen, so this is a bit of a thing to spring now. I don't really care about language as a complication on a large scale, and I am way more interested to roleplay and interact, and I feel like making a common tongue this difficult is... inherently counter to fostering interactivity.

I'm gonna second Sani on this one, removing Common is just going to add an enormous amount of unnecessary struggle to overcome for no real benefit. Keeping it is worth any immersion sacrifice.

The language system is a little tricky to get the hang of but it has a massive amount of slots available to cover even the most obscure languages.

Definitely can be, I have her set up to be as useful to the town as possible so things like medicine, healing, and general aid are all kind of right in her wheelhouse. By no means the locals’ primary source of any of it, but kind of an out-of-the-way last resort type deal. Maybe whatever sort of medical attention Sani could have gotten wasn’t going to cut it or simply wasn’t available, so Vy was her next best option at the time.

I'm at work but heres some thoughts-

 After reading everyone's input I'm willing to drop the common limitations, but I do want say the only thing I'm worried about with having common stay as it originally was is the other languages never being used since common is such a well, "commonly" used language. That's what happens in most of my experiences. After all, why bother speaking in elven or dwarven if you can just speak common?


 That said, I don't want social characters to feel limited and I do recognise that using language groups can be annoying.

Well as a human player ,go humans, common we start with and don't most players usually take Elven I found for smarter pc's its so common in games to be the de fatco 'common' of the people who matter.

I appreciate leaving common as a viable language.

I don't think that languages are a bad thing for flavor, but 2e really makes languages less accessible if you're not an Intelligence class. You can't drop a skill point into Linguistics anymore, it's a bigger investment. Also, the sheer number of languages on that list is hard to manage when various races only get 'common and our own language', so a diverse group isn't going to share languages without mechanical investment.

(also, my dislike for RPOL's thing is both a 'I like to enjoy the game and not miss out on meaning even if my character doesn't know it' and also 'formatting for language is a pain' thing for me.)

So as someone whose only ever played 2e in person, is there a decent online character sheet, character builder tool, or template that should be used? I’ve not really had a chance to find anything outside of just doing it by hand from the source books prior to this.

I found an google sheet (whatever their version of Excel is).  I didn't care for it, made everything too finicky and honestly it didn't help with my understanding of the rules either.

I'm using the mythweavers site to host my sheet. My only gripe is that it doesn't have much place to copy the text of your features, but I'm gonna be mixing that sheet for reference with the text for features and feats in my RPOL character sheet and a combat HP/Hero Point/Spells Tracker I'll construct when the game is closer to launch.

My character is coming along nicely I never played this version of Pathfinder so its slow going. I find it not as good as the first edition but its nice step-oriented and like its hard to start a character with major bonuses in statistic.

Its mixed but maybe it plays better than 5e, the character creation beats that like I noted as stages are decent.

I've been enjoying dipping my toe into both PF 2e and D&D 5e.  Very different things, but both worth playing I think. One thing about it is just that there's not as much stuff out for it as there is for PF 1e.  I personally love the way 2e here handles actions on turn with the three 'action point' system. Focus spells are a really great idea, and Refocusing and Medicine coincide very nicely, so it's possible to do Skill-Based healing that works pretty well. My 'Tabletop' (Discord) 2E game of Age of Ashes is still pretty early on,  but my monk in that game is also the only healer in the party and it's so much fun :D

(She's actually kind of a tomboy local to the town, just old enough to go adventuring herself, and a local... not troublemaker, but she doesn't get along with the local kids, and also got so many earfuls from clerics that she outright dislikes clerics and gods, so she's doing the Godless Healing thing. Her ki stuff is a blend of cultural stuff and stuff she's picked up from travelers and experimentation. Chaotic Good monk. Fun :D And with battle healing, a variant on risky surgery, and godless healing (and eventually, possibly the medic archetype, she totally does the  *hit your ally to make them pull themselves together* thing, but also pressure-point flavored healing stuff.)

PF 2e can do some really cool things. (mind I do admit that by the rules ability scores are very fixed. I figure maybe a good idea for players who want higher scores leaning more into the 'high fantasy' builds I really like would be to an additional set of bonuses to the current chargen, but I'm not suggesting that here, mind.)

I think my sheet is good to go, 2E is a heck of a change from 1E, feel free to let me know what might be mixed up.

Will attempt an intro post at some point, have some mild food poisoning so am kinda gross.

Oh, yeah, I should declare prepared spells too
0: Electric Arc, Tanglefoot, Prestidigitation, Ray of Frost, Light
1: Heal, Pummeling Rubble

Focus: Tempest Surge

I'm fighting Colon Cancer I'll trade  for your food poisoning. They cut out the cancer tumor but have radiation and chemotherapy for a good while.

*asked about the weather... reminded of how much FUN the 5e Druidcraft Cantrip is*

I am waiting for Kell to answer which is why I have not posted in the past few days..

I should have my character sheet up for approval today

Character is up for approval

Sorry it's taking me awhile on my pc besides near daily radiation therapy and such its a non-adventuring pc so the setting her up is unusual. And the holidays of course.

GM has also not logged in since the 16th. I wouldn't worry until after the new year, though.

Anyone mind if I play the new Teacher my gal knows the Lores:
Academia
Art (Woodcrafting)
Guild (Woodcrafting as in Carpentry)
Religion

And some supporting feats so she should fit in the town and be a productive Cleric. Idle hands is the playground of laziness. (Book of the Lady, Scroll of Wise Proverbs)
This message was last edited by the player at 22:08, Wed 30 Dec 2020.

Hey. I'm still here. Just had to get started and get past the holiday chaos!

Sani's right, many games that start around the Xmas/holidays period genrally get back on track once the new year starts - give it a week, and then we can wonder what's up.

Here's hoping for the best!

Soooo, how long until we declare this dead and post again in the GM's wanted?

the GM used the 'personal property' flag, so we won't be able to simply install another GM.

Yeah, unless there's a co-GM or similar that can take over for the GM, the game is theirs until they return or is abandoned/deleted.

There is the option of just taking whoever is still here and wants to play and starting our own game, but even before options and details and settings and all that are thought of, the big question is 'who wants to GM?'

I'm not in a position to, myself. That said, I think that if we do that, I'd like to see a bit more of a consistent  outline for the setting nailed down, since I feel like things have been left really nebulous at present?

I'm gonna say, with a HUGE asterisk, that I MIGHT* be able to put something together for whoever is still here and wants to do something similar to what we were gonna do - the big changes being I'd fall back on Pathfinder 1ed over 2ed because I know that one best.

EDIT: Maybe not quite what were going to do here, but I'll still see if at least I can put something together. Don't want to put the cart before the horse, as they say.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:39, Thu 07 Jan 2021.

I also wouldn't be opposed to D&D 5e. I've been falling for that system hard of late :D

I'm not as on top of that one, but I could probably wing it if it came to it - there's a bunch of resources online that help and I have played a game or two of it (Warlocks4lyfe!)

Again though, stating that my doing anything is still a big MAYBE while I look at some factors, mostly RL. But unless our incessant poking brings back the GM here, it's likely that this one is destined for the inactive bin.

Unfortunate but true.

We can hope~!

Me! But its still barely passed the holiday slow down and I'm going into cancer treatments after some tests daily to kill off my colon cancer residue. But can game until I die. So what's another one!

Pathfinder 1E would count me out. I'm interested in 2E, but will never play 1E again.

I am interested in continuing in what we have, though!

I'd be game for just about anything. (maybe not Pathfinder 1E...yeesh).  Sadly I'm not in a position to run another game right now.

Hey everyone,

My sincerest apologies for disappearing. I wish  I had given some kind of heads up but I didn’t. I just got back into rpol, and while I won’t be restarting this game I am interested in GMing (and sticking around), so if you guys have any game ideas you’re interested in let me know! I usually stick to fantasy but I am still brainstorming. I finally got a working laptop and a consistent work schedule so I will be able to stick around for awhile this time.

Again, apologies for my absence and letting the game die. I hope no one was to upset.

Welcome back! Sometimes real life gets in the way of our hobbies.
I'm glad things have settled out for you.

Personally I'd be interested in just about anything PF2!

Welcome back. I dunno if I'd be up for PF2e - maybe. I know I'll probably go Monk if I do, so far it's the only class I've tried that I've really had fun with, but that may be a perfect storm situation running a pre-build campaign.  I didn't really end up liking Sani too much.

I'm definitely more into 5e than PF2e.

Welcome back!

I could do more PF2E now that I've got a bit more experience with it, but my preferences fall between either PF1E or 5e,  but I'll never turn down a chance for another game.

Welcome back.

Welcome back. I've done it; RL crops up and messes you up. It's alright. Coming back helps.

I'd be down for some PF2E. I have a bevy of character concepts I'd love to play, especially if you would use the Free Archetype and Ancestry Paragon rules!

Monks are my favorite. Though I would also like to try a Druid, torn between Elf (loves Elves) and Iruxi Beastkin dino-themed Druid for MAXIMUM SAVAGE.

I just had art commissioned of my Drow, so I definitely want to play a Drow/dark elf Monk!

https://i.imgur.com/4wNRm0z.jpg

That is *exceedingly* pretty <3

Oh, I love her so much! Yes, she turned out perfect. I simply must play her in a game!

I think I saw the art posted the other day on reddit?

But yeah. PF2e monks are nice, I wouldn't mind revisiting mine in something (Monk who dips into Medicine skill, our DM was doing a few very small nice things to make the medicine skill's battle medicine feel better, but that aside... lot of fun ...

Perhaps. Do you know where? If the artist posted it, great! Otherwise, I only have it up on my character stuff. I know he put it on Artstation, though. But I'm very happy. I will be commissioning more artworks from him, and I finally have the exact kind of Drow pic I always wanted!



I haven't gotten to play much of anything, so I am looking forward to it!

I honestly expected most of you guys to be have dropped off, but seeing that y’all are still pretty active I am going to look at just restarting this game. I have some free time at work today so I’m going to see where we left off and see about getting things kick started again. If anyone wishes to be removed please let me know!

If you wish to stay, I’m going to be using Pathfinder 2e still. I’ll need to double check battle medicine mechanics again, I seem to remember we home brewed something for it?

If anyone wishes to change their character they can!

Feel free to ask any questions or anything.

I'd like to make some changes to my character, if we restart. Mostly in terms of appearance and maybe a little on build.

Any chance you'd be interested in using the Ancestry Paragon and/or Free Archetype rules?

I'm probably going to rebuild completely. It'll take me a while, life is hitting hard this week. Death in the family and stuff around that to handle.

No worries, take your time. It will probably be a week before we relaunch anyways. I removed everyone who hadn’t logged into the game since January, so we are down to 5 players and 1 possible rtj. 5-6 players is plenty to get the ball rolling!

Looking at the ancestry paragon and free archetype rules now, I’ll let everyone know what I decide after I’ve looked them over a bit more.

Just added our sixth player!

I wanted to give some updates and ask some questions-

1. I’ll be allowing the gunslinger and inventor classes from the play test found here: https://downloads.paizo.com/PZ...haracterPlaytest.pdf

2. I’m okay with the ancestry paragon and free archetype variant rules

3. I’ll be opening the game up to new players to get some fresh blood in here, but I’m considering how to reopen the IC story. Should we completely restart or just say the players have made it to the first town?

*Waves*

Hi everyone! My grumpy gunner will be bringing the bang bang boogie, and I'm excited to create with you. :)


@DM

1) Awesome!
2) Sweet!
3) As the sixth member, I'll go with the majority :)

I'll likely also rebuild once I have a bit of time to really sit down and look at things.

I wouldn't strictly mind a whole new setting pitch since things were weird with the start of this. I also think that maybe it would behoove us to do something of a proper Session Zero and have an idea of what sort of game were expecting.  It helps to make sure all the PCs have a reason to go on the adventure, are we looking at a linear adventure or an open setting, ect ect?  (That, and making sure the characters get along well is a good idea)

I think I want to avoid playing a caster just because I don't think I can go back to vancian casting after 5e.

@Sani,

One thing to consider with a 0 session is that it does carry a considerable risk in slowing down PbP games. From my understanding and experience, it's not the frequency of posting as much as the fatigue that comes from getting bogged down in details. A simple discussion on these boards can take anywhere between a week and a month, as I'm sure you know.

To add, I imagine that - as the mature individuals we are- we can all put it on ourselves to make sure our characters can get along well enough to remain civil :). Unless someone was planning on playing an evil character or a lone wolf?

I do enjoy a touch of tension between characters to create good story, but unfortunately I know some people can take things personally. No, I'm not that player that makes a char just to stir things up :)

Would it help for everyone who's changing/rebuilding their character to simply state what their new focus is? I didn't know if party balance was a concern of the DM, and it's never been to me, but if needed I'm willing to try my other melee-centric character concept if needed.

But to reiterate, I'm a team player and willing to 0 sesh if the majority wants to. My CS is pretty much done.

Protip: https://wanderersguide.app/
Great for pf2e chargen. Works best on chrome.

I'm down for this! At any rate, we should probably restart, yeah.

I'm still thinking Elf Monk, though I may well try out my Dino Druid!

I'm willing to go with whatever.

Jack here isn't the most compelling character other than in the most crude sense, so I'd be willing to make something new based on party needs.  However, I do like the little guy and kinda want to see what mischief he gets up to.

Sounds like we are all on the same page!

Setting wise I know we had previously established that

1: The starting location has been around for at least 50 years, enough time for permanent buildings and an economy to form, but much of the surrounding area is still relatively unexplored.

2: Dino creatures are a thing, while I don’t intend for a “Jurassic Park” game, I do think some Dinos would be a cool feature of the game. How does everyone feel about this?

3. Story wise, I had originally intended for this game to be relatively “open world”. I would like for there to be one main town/base of operations that everyone returns to after their adventures. Beyond that I’m open to ideas about what the characters goals are. For the first couple of “missions” I was going to more or less just have you guys getting familiar with the surrounding area and the locals. That said, if everyone wants a more linear/party based game I can edit things so that you guys are more of an exploratory expedition to map out this new territory.

That’s all I got for now!

I'm gonna be a little behind in character redesign just because of real life, but I've been playing a swashbuckler lately and might switch to that if party composition won't be an issue.

As for questions,

1 + 2 feel similarly to the 1E module Ire of the Storm, and having played it twice, I am fully down with dinos and a settlement with a bunch of wilderness to still explore.

3. I never say no to a sandbox style campaign, how much input from us as players would you like overall?

Yep. I love the whole "open to exploration" vibe!



Yep! Love it. Dinosaurs belong in fantasy as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I may make my character a Dino Druid instead.



I love a good focus on adventuring and exploration. I'd also enjoy plenty of creative use of Victory Point subsystem usages, traps and hazards, and environmental stuff, and noncombat resolutions as viable alternatives sometimes!

I'm not super hyped to start at level 1, but if we must.

I'm debating going over to monk. I have some art I like. I don't think I can come back to PF2e's casting after falling so far in love with how magic works in 5e. Like., classic Vancian is terrible and I hate it with a passion, so yeah, no more classic vancian casting for me.

I might maybe want to go with a Monk, I've got art picked out one way or another. Might go with a Medicine-skill Monk, actually (Medicine Skill is actually super good for actual healing of HP, so I could go for that). It's basically a rehash of the other PF2e concept I've enjoyed, but... *shrug*.

The version of the 'medicine monk' I have in my Age of Ashes game is very tomboyishly punchy, could do a version that's more healy and chill to differentiate them, maybe. I don't know much about these alternate/additional rules. Aeris, got links or anything to them?

These are all the same points I would have brought up myself.

Pwrsonally I feel that urban exploration can also be included in that; discovery throughout a city or settlement could be fun.

Also a huge fan of political engagements, but that's a lot of work, so I wouldn't expect anything too in depth.

Dipping my toe into those alternate features. Pretty neat overall.

I was checking the Medic Archetype out, and it doesn't have enough feats on its own to make full use of the Free Archetype thing, but could I potentially use that to do two archetypes?

I love player input on things like factions, NPCs, small world things like everyone goes to the Winking Skeever for cold brews, historical events or artifacts of interest, things like that. Leave the party quests and what happens to me, but always feel free to let me know if there’s some “side quest” you feel would play out well for your character.

Exploration is a key thing I’m going for here, it’s unexplored land after all! There will be PLENTY of faction politics, and I’m not the kind of GM to railroad players. I’d much rather give each faction some goals and issues  and then let things play out organically. The only thing I’m going to push a bit is well, you can’t be everyone’s friends. I’m purposely going to pit some factions against each other, even if it’s just a trade war over who gets to buy off the  characters loot when they come back from expeditions and stuff. Expect choices and small actions to have an affect on how factions interact with you down the road.

Traps and hazards go hand in hand with exploration, so they’ll definitely pop up. Expect certain aspects of the game to include the basics of everyday life in an unexplored land, such as making sure your character has access to food and safe sleeping areas, or risk injury or other bad things happening to your character.

Also, since I’m not a fan of killing characters off without good reason, there will always be another option besides permanent death, but there will be a cost of some kind. Instead of killing you, I’ll probably jus make sure your character is severely injured for awhile ;P


Starting level wise we don’t have to be level 1, we could level 2 or something? I don’t want to start to high simply because I’m still trying to get a full grasp of the rules. Thankfully pathfinder seems to scale well!

I’ll need to double check the medic archetype and the rules but I believe yes you can.

I would like to profit an establishment name of The Grubby Geezer XD

In the RTJ, you did have a section where we could present our own takes on ideas for some of the world-building and character development we would like to see. I know I filled that section out pretty thick, one of my floated faction ideas being a performers' underworld. Would it be helpful to you if we all revisited that here? Personally can't think of anything else I'd add at the moment other than what I've already submitted and the other great points made.

I would posit that if someone were to suggest a faction that is relatively unknown, it could simply be submitted in secret to you. We may have as much fun in the discovery and exploration of those secret organizations as opposed to talking about them and having to suspend our character belief that the ones we've discussed don't exist, especially if any of these factions are not confined to our Area of Operations.

I don't mind starting at level one. Level two is a great jumping off point to start diversifying concepts with those dedication feats.

Hello everybody! I will be your superstitious barbarian here! Please dont cast any spells on me, even good ones! Dont trust magics too much.

:)

Ps-big fan of starting at level 2!
This message was last edited by the player at 16:39, Tue 03 Aug 2021.

Right now my idea is leaning toward Human  (undecided heritage) Monk, with a focus on the Medicine Skill and probably also taking the Medic archetype first, maybe another. I'm also considering Rogue with plans to get martial artist and medic maybe, but I'm not super-sure which would suit me more. Rogue getting sneak attack, and dexterity to attack and damage maybe, could be good. Rogues are more inherently criminal in PF2E than I'm used to, though. So Monk may be the way to go. I'll be honest PF2e is hard for me to use, but I know how monk works in it and I know I like how good medicine skill is. XD;

I think I mostly need to decide on character specifics, beyond that. Name, background, that sort of thing. I think I have the art decided upon, at least:



Might go Godless Healing but unsure, might not. my other monk did, but this character could be different in that regard. Would be interested in a version of Risky Surgery that does bludgeoning instead of slashing damage (flavored more as doing pressure point based healing techniques than cut open surgery stuff :D)  but that aside, I think I just need to sit down and get things worked out.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:05, Tue 03 Aug 2021.

Greetings everyone! I'll be playing Mouse, your 3 foot tall Ant Gnoll Rogue. His presence tends to make itself known when items of food go missing.

I’m certainly interested in hearing ideas for factions, and if there’s any secret factions you guys think would be cool let me know in a private message. I can’t promise I’ll use them but I’ll definitely take inspiration! That’s for monsters or natural features and landmarks as well.

I’ve added a couple more people and will be getting things ready to be started sometime this week. Don’t feel rushed I’ll make sure those who need it get the time to finish their characters.

That sounds good to me. I'll likely finish  Mouse after work today and post more coherent thoughts. The app Hadi mentioned has been a godsend.

Tentatively thinking about Monastic Archer Stance and using mainly a bow, but dunno for sure offhand. I'm really not very in tune with PF2e.

Welcome Wungarr and Mouse. I'm new myself but glad to have you in :)

@Sani I'm new to the system too. From what I've read, I really dig it. It seems super adaptable, and removes a good deal of munchkin-ness. IF you're ever stuck on what class to play, especially if you're stuck between option, I always find it helpful to rely on the Rule of Cool. Sometimes that means not maxing out a stat, or taking a feat that's not the most "effective", but it certainly helps me finalize my decisions and actually enjoy playing my characters (dig the pic btw). You can always have a little bit of both.

@DM Dig it 100!

Hey all, another new guy here! When I initially sent in my concept, I didn't realize the game wasn't using Pathfinder as a setting. As a result, I developed my concept around Gorthok being a champion of Shelyn. So, I'd either like to submit Shelyn as a member of our world's pantheon, or come up with a very similar goddess in her place.

Sorry for the double post, just catching up as the new guy:



If these are decided, I'd recommend adding them to the House Rules page. Also, for the Free Archetype variant, are you going to restrict it in any way (ie. we all take the same archetype, it has to fit some theme, etc) or just let people take what they want?

Hopefully this works. Getting it from my phone was a bit of a fuss.

I could use some advice on my sheet, this is literally the first time I've played Pathfinder 2E.

https://drive.google.com/file/...hO/view?usp=drivesdk

I guess my first cursory impression is that you should really get your dexterity up to 18. I'm not a huge fane of min/maxing, but it seems to me that challenges/opponents seem to assume your character has an 18 in their key ability.

Also, if you're going to go with the thief racket, having a high strength isn't really necessary, since you get your dex bonus to damage with light weapons. So I'd recommend either looking at a different racket, or maybe lowering your strength to let you raise something else.

There might be something I'm missing on the app then, as it'll only let me raise my dexterity once to 16. I'll run back and take another look to see if I can get it to 18.

Edit: Ah, found it, I can change my class boost. Alright, that's strength down to 14 and dexterity up to 18.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:02, Wed 04 Aug 2021.

Yeah, you should be able to add to Dex from your ancestry, background, class, and then free boosts.

Excellent, that feels a good bit more solid, thanks for the feedback. :)

In the spirit of openness and zero-sessionishness:

Bash will be a Human [Oread] Gunslinger and using the Juggler archetype. While guns are cool, I'm hoping to play with the mechanics around Intimidation, as I feel it is most apropos to her background (ex-troupe member) and a great way to keep RP elements interesting. At level 2 she'll probably(?) pick up Alchemical Crafting too, because I realize bullets are super expensive as I should have anticipated.

I'll put her reputation up once I get a better sense of how we're starting off.

You can take any archetype you want, I haven’t seen any that won’t work. Just try to make sure it fits your character, and given there are lots of choices that shouldn’t be to hard.

I’ll be going over sheets today and tomorrow to check everyone’s progress

In reply to Game Master (msg # 159):

Good stuff!

What'll be the starting level and wealth (standard or lump sum or otherwise)?

Do we start our free archetype at 2? Do we start the game at level 2?

Just to be 100% clear on how you imagine this to work:

We're using Ancestry Paragon: https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=1336
"When creating an ancestry paragon character, instead of starting with one ancestry feat and gaining another at 5th, 9th, 13th, and 17th levels, the character starts with two ancestry feats and gains another at every odd level thereafter (3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, and so on) for a total of 11 ancestry feats."

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And we're using Free Archetype:
Relevant Text: "  the character receives an extra class feat at 2nd level and every even level thereafter that they can use only for archetype feats. "

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Do you also intend to imply that there's an additional feat that can be either one or the other in addition to the basics of using those variant rules? You wrote...

"We will be using the ancestry paragon and free archetype variant rules. (Above) You will get an extra free feat every other level, you must choose either an ancestry OR archetype fest."

If you didn't, no worries. If you did mean 'an additional feat' - do those extra feats come on even or odd levels?

Good question Sani. I thought maybe the DM was saying we were basically combining the two variants, but you can only get one of them when a feat comes.

So you don't get an Ancestry Paragon feat AND a Free Archetype feat, you get one OR the other. But we'd need to know whether those come on the odd or even level, since the ancestry come on the odd levels, and the archetype feats come on the even levels.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if they were saying 'it's like these two rules, but fewer feats than they would combined give you', or 'an extra feat one on top of these two rules' - Honestly, just making it those two is most practical. If there's extra feats involved, as someone who wants to get into medicine at least, skill feats are always good.

Great questions,

Yes we are starting at level 2, and will be using the lump sum gold, so 30gp. No magic items yet, but I’ll make sure you guys loot some relatively early on when exploring. I’ll add that to the house rules as well.

And apologies for the lack of clarity, I originally meant that you can only choose one or the other because I thought they were both at even levels, but seeing that free archetype is every even level and the ancestry paragon is every odd level just ignore that extra feat sentence I added on. I didn’t want people to be choosing ancestry feats and archetype feats at the same time every even level, but I’m okay with it switching on and off. I’ll make sure to edit the message. Good catch!

In short, 30gp starting wealth, no permanent +1 items yet, free archetype rule: extra class feat at every even level (we start level 2), and then ancestry paragon is start with 2 ancestry feats and gain one at every odd level.

I hope that clarifies things :)

So, just to be clear as to what we should be starting with

Level 1: Your class, ancestry, background, and stuff... 1 class feat, 2 ancestry feats
Level 2: You get a class feat, and an extra Archetype-Only Class Feat, and the usual skill feat.

So, looking at 2 Ancestry Feats, 2 Class feats, 1 Archetype feat, and a Skill Feat, plus whatever your background gives you (Some of them give feats)

I've levelled up to two and got my sheet sorted.

https://drive.google.com/file/...to/view?usp=drivesdk

Really keen on this game, it looks a lot of fun and has a lot of interesting characters. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:11, Thu 05 Aug 2021.

@Sani by my calculations that sounds about right...plus that beautiful 30gp XD.

Just FYI, will be going with a Redeemer Paladin with the Marshal archetype. Never played either, so should be a fun experience.

In reply to Gorthok (msg # 169):

Sweet action! I was close to going Marshal too, but didn't think it fit Bash's background...yet. I might dip into that down the road too depending on how the story goes.

I just want to do all the things in one character. That's not asking too much, right? XD

And have you and I played in a game before? Maybe a character named Davor?

Where are you finding these archetypes?

In reply to Duhb Scathy (msg # 171):

There is a free app you can get called pathbuilder2.

Greetings Everyone. Add me to the list of players that are completely new this version of Pathfinder. Been slowly figuring out how to build my character.

In reply to Duhb Scathy (msg # 171):
Another place to view the archetypes are here: https://2e.aonprd.com/Archetypes.aspx

I have pathbuilder 2e but I don't see archetypes there.

It is entirely possible; I have tried to make various of incarnations of this character (with the same name) multiple times, the games just always seem to die quickly.

In reply to Duhb Scathy (msg # 174):

You have to pick them as an alternative class feat starting at 2+

In reply to Gorthok (msg # 175):

I feel you. I'm Goon. I've been stuck in a cycle myself, so no judgment. I'm so used to reskinning characters since I never really get a chance to play them.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:04, Thu 05 Aug 2021.

Do you need to have the paid version?

In reply to Duhb Scathy (msg # 178):

I dont think so. You just use the drop down menu on the top left corner when selecting second level class feats.

Hello All,

I was just accepted to join this upcoming adventure.  I have RPG experience but never had the chance to play P2E. So I am hoping to both be apart of a good tale and to gain experience with the rules. I do want to say that I have dyslexia so I apologize beforehand for any odd grammar that may appear if I don't catch it.  I'll start on my character and ASAP.

Looking forward to gaming with you all.

I will be playing a monk also as PF2E IMO has the best monk in any " DND lineage" game.

GM Question can we use the  the rules on page 196 of the Gamemastery Guide:

where most or all of the power comes from the character and not their gear.

The idea is that my character's monk faction TENDS to rely on their own skill and not magic items.  This rule variant allows players to progress at the same rate as those with magic items.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:13, Fri 06 Aug 2021.

I am currently referencing some advice from a friend and considering what I might do for my setup. Feeling frustrated by the 'buy x many feats before doing the another dedication' thing in my outlining.

Friend suggested I look at the Ranger archetype, and I can see some appeal.

@DM - any objection to allowing Medicine Skill Feats count as 'Medic' Feats for the purposes of being able to go into another Dedication feat?

I like the idea of starting with Medic Dedication at level 2, then grabbing Ranger Dedication at 4 by having my medicine skills under my belt by then. I'm thinking of maybe Animal Companion at 6 for my 1-2 ranger feat, then Far Shot by level 8 (which will, combined with monk, let me use my monk features with Monastic Archery Style out to 60 feet with a shortbow)

But yeah, I'm thinking I want to lean toward a very archer monk/medic/ranger feel...

Thoughts?

Have you considered Herbalist instead of medic? You don't get Battle Medicine, but honestly I don't think that's super useful anyway, but you do get the ability to craft some alchemical items using nature.

Just gave it a look, prefer the medicine tree of stuff, I think. I love the high quality out of combat healing, and with medic and risky surgery (or a variant that does bashing damage instead of slashing flavored as pressure point styled stuff),  it's pretty solid out of combat healing, and with ward medic and continual recovery, she can basically handle the party healing needs outside of a fight. I have a monk in another game that leans on the same medicine style, and it's fantastic, she is the party healer.

Just checking in!

I am still learning the finer details of pf2e myself so let me check out page 196 but I’m a pretty agreeable GM and I don’t foresee any issues.

@Sani ; sounds good to me, when I go over your character sheet I’ll take a closer look though.

Been very busy at work and home my daughter had a cold and demanded lots of attention, but she’s better now so I’ll have more time to let things done now.

Appreciate everyone’s patience!

Okay, I think my character sheet is finished.

Thanks.

Hope the kid is feeling better.

I see that some of you have larger pictures in your "The Cast" profile. How did you manage that?

@Kor

To insert images, use <img src="image address">

the Image Address is the link to whatever image you want to use. I upload my stuff to imgbb.com, then use the HTML formatted address. You can also align the image by adding "align=left" or right. Hope that helps!

I've never seen so many black characters or so many monk fans in a single game. That's AWESOME!

Also, how were we going to divide parties? I may have missed this, but are we doing so in-game?

And CS waiting for review.

I think in the previous game we were going to to be divided in-game. I could be wrong, it's been a while.
I am waiting for a response from the GM to a character question and then I'll have my sheet up asap after that.

I am a fan of monks, even if I'm not playing one!

I believe my character sheet is now finished and ready to be approved. Pathbuilder2 helped me figure out some of the mechanics so thank you for mentioning that Wungarr.

Ended up going with the RuneScarred archetype since it matched the tattoo theme I wanted for the character.

In reply to Jafad Embereye (msg # 190):

No problem!

:)

Wow, didn't realize things were jumping so fast! I'll get caught up and posting tonight. A name change will be coming along with my character!

Thanks for the info Bash.  Agreed on you character observations!

Yea she’s better, but she gave me the flu haha thankfully I got tested for covid yesterday and I was negative. I was worried I’d gotten covid because my boss tested positive. Wear your masks guys! I consider myself more conservative and I’m not a fan of the vaccine myself but he’s really sick because he refused to wear one.

Finally got through everyone’s sheets, most of y’all look good I’m still waiting for 3-4 people to finish up. I’m not trying to rush anyone but for the sake of getting things started again let’s wrap those sheets up. It looks like some of you are still at level 1, don’t forget to include your level 2 advancements since we are starting at level 2. If you really need more time let me know in a PM and I can set your character sheet aside until you’re ready that way you can still roleplay until we run into the first dice rolls.

I’ll be replying to everyone’s Private Messages today, and should have the new IC thread up either tonight or tomorrow if everything goes well.

And yes, you guys will start together but will be split up relatively soon after.

Good luck and stay safe! I think I have everything in order, but I'll keep my eyes open for feedback.

Reservations about the vaccine in mind, I had mine months ago and aside from feeling a little sore the day after, I've been utterly fine. The covid situation in the UK is still a bit rough though.

Just to check, are we still going ahead?

I am looking forward to this game, just need a couple things cleared up with the GM.

I’m sorry guys, really dropped the ball on this one. I am back on the site, I got a new job that lets me work from home (never tried that before) and I’ve had lots of free time lately so I’m really torn about what to do with the game I just wanted to apologize for wasting y’all’s time like that!

I will be deleting the game shortly, I plan to stay on the site but I have given up on Pathfinder, I’ve tried several times to GM it and it’s never worked out, and at this point I believe it’s best to stick with systems I know. If anyone wishes to save anything please do so, as I don’t intend to restart the game.