I honestly expected most of you guys to be have dropped off, but seeing that y’all are still pretty active I am going to look at just restarting this game. I have some free time at work today so I’m going to see where we left off and see about getting things kick started again. If anyone wishes to be removed please let me know!

If you wish to stay, I’m going to be using Pathfinder 2e still. I’ll need to double check battle medicine mechanics again, I seem to remember we home brewed something for it?

If anyone wishes to change their character they can!

Feel free to ask any questions or anything.

I'd like to make some changes to my character, if we restart. Mostly in terms of appearance and maybe a little on build.

Any chance you'd be interested in using the Ancestry Paragon and/or Free Archetype rules?

I'm probably going to rebuild completely. It'll take me a while, life is hitting hard this week. Death in the family and stuff around that to handle.

No worries, take your time. It will probably be a week before we relaunch anyways. I removed everyone who hadn’t logged into the game since January, so we are down to 5 players and 1 possible rtj. 5-6 players is plenty to get the ball rolling!

Looking at the ancestry paragon and free archetype rules now, I’ll let everyone know what I decide after I’ve looked them over a bit more.

Just added our sixth player!

I wanted to give some updates and ask some questions-

1. I’ll be allowing the gunslinger and inventor classes from the play test found here: https://downloads.paizo.com/PZ...haracterPlaytest.pdf

2. I’m okay with the ancestry paragon and free archetype variant rules

3. I’ll be opening the game up to new players to get some fresh blood in here, but I’m considering how to reopen the IC story. Should we completely restart or just say the players have made it to the first town?

*Waves*

Hi everyone! My grumpy gunner will be bringing the bang bang boogie, and I'm excited to create with you. :)


@DM

1) Awesome!
2) Sweet!
3) As the sixth member, I'll go with the majority :)

I'll likely also rebuild once I have a bit of time to really sit down and look at things.

I wouldn't strictly mind a whole new setting pitch since things were weird with the start of this. I also think that maybe it would behoove us to do something of a proper Session Zero and have an idea of what sort of game were expecting.  It helps to make sure all the PCs have a reason to go on the adventure, are we looking at a linear adventure or an open setting, ect ect?  (That, and making sure the characters get along well is a good idea)

I think I want to avoid playing a caster just because I don't think I can go back to vancian casting after 5e.

@Sani,

One thing to consider with a 0 session is that it does carry a considerable risk in slowing down PbP games. From my understanding and experience, it's not the frequency of posting as much as the fatigue that comes from getting bogged down in details. A simple discussion on these boards can take anywhere between a week and a month, as I'm sure you know.

To add, I imagine that - as the mature individuals we are- we can all put it on ourselves to make sure our characters can get along well enough to remain civil :). Unless someone was planning on playing an evil character or a lone wolf?

I do enjoy a touch of tension between characters to create good story, but unfortunately I know some people can take things personally. No, I'm not that player that makes a char just to stir things up :)

Would it help for everyone who's changing/rebuilding their character to simply state what their new focus is? I didn't know if party balance was a concern of the DM, and it's never been to me, but if needed I'm willing to try my other melee-centric character concept if needed.

But to reiterate, I'm a team player and willing to 0 sesh if the majority wants to. My CS is pretty much done.

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Great for pf2e chargen. Works best on chrome.

I'm down for this! At any rate, we should probably restart, yeah.

I'm still thinking Elf Monk, though I may well try out my Dino Druid!

I'm willing to go with whatever.

Jack here isn't the most compelling character other than in the most crude sense, so I'd be willing to make something new based on party needs.  However, I do like the little guy and kinda want to see what mischief he gets up to.

Sounds like we are all on the same page!

Setting wise I know we had previously established that

1: The starting location has been around for at least 50 years, enough time for permanent buildings and an economy to form, but much of the surrounding area is still relatively unexplored.

2: Dino creatures are a thing, while I don’t intend for a “Jurassic Park” game, I do think some Dinos would be a cool feature of the game. How does everyone feel about this?

3. Story wise, I had originally intended for this game to be relatively “open world”. I would like for there to be one main town/base of operations that everyone returns to after their adventures. Beyond that I’m open to ideas about what the characters goals are. For the first couple of “missions” I was going to more or less just have you guys getting familiar with the surrounding area and the locals. That said, if everyone wants a more linear/party based game I can edit things so that you guys are more of an exploratory expedition to map out this new territory.

That’s all I got for now!

I'm gonna be a little behind in character redesign just because of real life, but I've been playing a swashbuckler lately and might switch to that if party composition won't be an issue.

As for questions,

1 + 2 feel similarly to the 1E module Ire of the Storm, and having played it twice, I am fully down with dinos and a settlement with a bunch of wilderness to still explore.

3. I never say no to a sandbox style campaign, how much input from us as players would you like overall?

Yep. I love the whole "open to exploration" vibe!



Yep! Love it. Dinosaurs belong in fantasy as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I may make my character a Dino Druid instead.



I love a good focus on adventuring and exploration. I'd also enjoy plenty of creative use of Victory Point subsystem usages, traps and hazards, and environmental stuff, and noncombat resolutions as viable alternatives sometimes!

I'm not super hyped to start at level 1, but if we must.

I'm debating going over to monk. I have some art I like. I don't think I can come back to PF2e's casting after falling so far in love with how magic works in 5e. Like., classic Vancian is terrible and I hate it with a passion, so yeah, no more classic vancian casting for me.

I might maybe want to go with a Monk, I've got art picked out one way or another. Might go with a Medicine-skill Monk, actually (Medicine Skill is actually super good for actual healing of HP, so I could go for that). It's basically a rehash of the other PF2e concept I've enjoyed, but... *shrug*.

The version of the 'medicine monk' I have in my Age of Ashes game is very tomboyishly punchy, could do a version that's more healy and chill to differentiate them, maybe. I don't know much about these alternate/additional rules. Aeris, got links or anything to them?

These are all the same points I would have brought up myself.

Pwrsonally I feel that urban exploration can also be included in that; discovery throughout a city or settlement could be fun.

Also a huge fan of political engagements, but that's a lot of work, so I wouldn't expect anything too in depth.

Dipping my toe into those alternate features. Pretty neat overall.

I was checking the Medic Archetype out, and it doesn't have enough feats on its own to make full use of the Free Archetype thing, but could I potentially use that to do two archetypes?

I love player input on things like factions, NPCs, small world things like everyone goes to the Winking Skeever for cold brews, historical events or artifacts of interest, things like that. Leave the party quests and what happens to me, but always feel free to let me know if there’s some “side quest” you feel would play out well for your character.

Exploration is a key thing I’m going for here, it’s unexplored land after all! There will be PLENTY of faction politics, and I’m not the kind of GM to railroad players. I’d much rather give each faction some goals and issues  and then let things play out organically. The only thing I’m going to push a bit is well, you can’t be everyone’s friends. I’m purposely going to pit some factions against each other, even if it’s just a trade war over who gets to buy off the  characters loot when they come back from expeditions and stuff. Expect choices and small actions to have an affect on how factions interact with you down the road.

Traps and hazards go hand in hand with exploration, so they’ll definitely pop up. Expect certain aspects of the game to include the basics of everyday life in an unexplored land, such as making sure your character has access to food and safe sleeping areas, or risk injury or other bad things happening to your character.

Also, since I’m not a fan of killing characters off without good reason, there will always be another option besides permanent death, but there will be a cost of some kind. Instead of killing you, I’ll probably jus make sure your character is severely injured for awhile ;P


Starting level wise we don’t have to be level 1, we could level 2 or something? I don’t want to start to high simply because I’m still trying to get a full grasp of the rules. Thankfully pathfinder seems to scale well!

I’ll need to double check the medic archetype and the rules but I believe yes you can.

I would like to profit an establishment name of The Grubby Geezer XD

In the RTJ, you did have a section where we could present our own takes on ideas for some of the world-building and character development we would like to see. I know I filled that section out pretty thick, one of my floated faction ideas being a performers' underworld. Would it be helpful to you if we all revisited that here? Personally can't think of anything else I'd add at the moment other than what I've already submitted and the other great points made.

I would posit that if someone were to suggest a faction that is relatively unknown, it could simply be submitted in secret to you. We may have as much fun in the discovery and exploration of those secret organizations as opposed to talking about them and having to suspend our character belief that the ones we've discussed don't exist, especially if any of these factions are not confined to our Area of Operations.

I don't mind starting at level one. Level two is a great jumping off point to start diversifying concepts with those dedication feats.

Hello everybody! I will be your superstitious barbarian here! Please dont cast any spells on me, even good ones! Dont trust magics too much.

:)

Ps-big fan of starting at level 2!
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Right now my idea is leaning toward Human  (undecided heritage) Monk, with a focus on the Medicine Skill and probably also taking the Medic archetype first, maybe another. I'm also considering Rogue with plans to get martial artist and medic maybe, but I'm not super-sure which would suit me more. Rogue getting sneak attack, and dexterity to attack and damage maybe, could be good. Rogues are more inherently criminal in PF2E than I'm used to, though. So Monk may be the way to go. I'll be honest PF2e is hard for me to use, but I know how monk works in it and I know I like how good medicine skill is. XD;

I think I mostly need to decide on character specifics, beyond that. Name, background, that sort of thing. I think I have the art decided upon, at least:



Might go Godless Healing but unsure, might not. my other monk did, but this character could be different in that regard. Would be interested in a version of Risky Surgery that does bludgeoning instead of slashing damage (flavored more as doing pressure point based healing techniques than cut open surgery stuff :D)  but that aside, I think I just need to sit down and get things worked out.
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Greetings everyone! I'll be playing Mouse, your 3 foot tall Ant Gnoll Rogue. His presence tends to make itself known when items of food go missing.

I’m certainly interested in hearing ideas for factions, and if there’s any secret factions you guys think would be cool let me know in a private message. I can’t promise I’ll use them but I’ll definitely take inspiration! That’s for monsters or natural features and landmarks as well.

I’ve added a couple more people and will be getting things ready to be started sometime this week. Don’t feel rushed I’ll make sure those who need it get the time to finish their characters.

That sounds good to me. I'll likely finish  Mouse after work today and post more coherent thoughts. The app Hadi mentioned has been a godsend.

Tentatively thinking about Monastic Archer Stance and using mainly a bow, but dunno for sure offhand. I'm really not very in tune with PF2e.