Welcome Wungarr and Mouse. I'm new myself but glad to have you in :)

@Sani I'm new to the system too. From what I've read, I really dig it. It seems super adaptable, and removes a good deal of munchkin-ness. IF you're ever stuck on what class to play, especially if you're stuck between option, I always find it helpful to rely on the Rule of Cool. Sometimes that means not maxing out a stat, or taking a feat that's not the most "effective", but it certainly helps me finalize my decisions and actually enjoy playing my characters (dig the pic btw). You can always have a little bit of both.

@DM Dig it 100!

Hey all, another new guy here! When I initially sent in my concept, I didn't realize the game wasn't using Pathfinder as a setting. As a result, I developed my concept around Gorthok being a champion of Shelyn. So, I'd either like to submit Shelyn as a member of our world's pantheon, or come up with a very similar goddess in her place.

Sorry for the double post, just catching up as the new guy:



If these are decided, I'd recommend adding them to the House Rules page. Also, for the Free Archetype variant, are you going to restrict it in any way (ie. we all take the same archetype, it has to fit some theme, etc) or just let people take what they want?

Hopefully this works. Getting it from my phone was a bit of a fuss.

I could use some advice on my sheet, this is literally the first time I've played Pathfinder 2E.

https://drive.google.com/file/...hO/view?usp=drivesdk

I guess my first cursory impression is that you should really get your dexterity up to 18. I'm not a huge fane of min/maxing, but it seems to me that challenges/opponents seem to assume your character has an 18 in their key ability.

Also, if you're going to go with the thief racket, having a high strength isn't really necessary, since you get your dex bonus to damage with light weapons. So I'd recommend either looking at a different racket, or maybe lowering your strength to let you raise something else.

There might be something I'm missing on the app then, as it'll only let me raise my dexterity once to 16. I'll run back and take another look to see if I can get it to 18.

Edit: Ah, found it, I can change my class boost. Alright, that's strength down to 14 and dexterity up to 18.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:02, Wed 04 Aug 2021.

Yeah, you should be able to add to Dex from your ancestry, background, class, and then free boosts.

Excellent, that feels a good bit more solid, thanks for the feedback. :)

In the spirit of openness and zero-sessionishness:

Bash will be a Human [Oread] Gunslinger and using the Juggler archetype. While guns are cool, I'm hoping to play with the mechanics around Intimidation, as I feel it is most apropos to her background (ex-troupe member) and a great way to keep RP elements interesting. At level 2 she'll probably(?) pick up Alchemical Crafting too, because I realize bullets are super expensive as I should have anticipated.

I'll put her reputation up once I get a better sense of how we're starting off.

You can take any archetype you want, I haven’t seen any that won’t work. Just try to make sure it fits your character, and given there are lots of choices that shouldn’t be to hard.

I’ll be going over sheets today and tomorrow to check everyone’s progress

In reply to Game Master (msg # 159):

Good stuff!

What'll be the starting level and wealth (standard or lump sum or otherwise)?

Do we start our free archetype at 2? Do we start the game at level 2?

Just to be 100% clear on how you imagine this to work:

We're using Ancestry Paragon: https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=1336
"When creating an ancestry paragon character, instead of starting with one ancestry feat and gaining another at 5th, 9th, 13th, and 17th levels, the character starts with two ancestry feats and gains another at every odd level thereafter (3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, and so on) for a total of 11 ancestry feats."

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And we're using Free Archetype:
Relevant Text: "  the character receives an extra class feat at 2nd level and every even level thereafter that they can use only for archetype feats. "

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Do you also intend to imply that there's an additional feat that can be either one or the other in addition to the basics of using those variant rules? You wrote...

"We will be using the ancestry paragon and free archetype variant rules. (Above) You will get an extra free feat every other level, you must choose either an ancestry OR archetype fest."

If you didn't, no worries. If you did mean 'an additional feat' - do those extra feats come on even or odd levels?

Good question Sani. I thought maybe the DM was saying we were basically combining the two variants, but you can only get one of them when a feat comes.

So you don't get an Ancestry Paragon feat AND a Free Archetype feat, you get one OR the other. But we'd need to know whether those come on the odd or even level, since the ancestry come on the odd levels, and the archetype feats come on the even levels.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if they were saying 'it's like these two rules, but fewer feats than they would combined give you', or 'an extra feat one on top of these two rules' - Honestly, just making it those two is most practical. If there's extra feats involved, as someone who wants to get into medicine at least, skill feats are always good.

Great questions,

Yes we are starting at level 2, and will be using the lump sum gold, so 30gp. No magic items yet, but I’ll make sure you guys loot some relatively early on when exploring. I’ll add that to the house rules as well.

And apologies for the lack of clarity, I originally meant that you can only choose one or the other because I thought they were both at even levels, but seeing that free archetype is every even level and the ancestry paragon is every odd level just ignore that extra feat sentence I added on. I didn’t want people to be choosing ancestry feats and archetype feats at the same time every even level, but I’m okay with it switching on and off. I’ll make sure to edit the message. Good catch!

In short, 30gp starting wealth, no permanent +1 items yet, free archetype rule: extra class feat at every even level (we start level 2), and then ancestry paragon is start with 2 ancestry feats and gain one at every odd level.

I hope that clarifies things :)

So, just to be clear as to what we should be starting with

Level 1: Your class, ancestry, background, and stuff... 1 class feat, 2 ancestry feats
Level 2: You get a class feat, and an extra Archetype-Only Class Feat, and the usual skill feat.

So, looking at 2 Ancestry Feats, 2 Class feats, 1 Archetype feat, and a Skill Feat, plus whatever your background gives you (Some of them give feats)

I've levelled up to two and got my sheet sorted.

https://drive.google.com/file/...to/view?usp=drivesdk

Really keen on this game, it looks a lot of fun and has a lot of interesting characters. :)
This message was last edited by the player at 06:11, Thu 05 Aug 2021.

@Sani by my calculations that sounds about right...plus that beautiful 30gp XD.

Just FYI, will be going with a Redeemer Paladin with the Marshal archetype. Never played either, so should be a fun experience.

In reply to Gorthok (msg # 169):

Sweet action! I was close to going Marshal too, but didn't think it fit Bash's background...yet. I might dip into that down the road too depending on how the story goes.

I just want to do all the things in one character. That's not asking too much, right? XD

And have you and I played in a game before? Maybe a character named Davor?

Where are you finding these archetypes?

In reply to Duhb Scathy (msg # 171):

There is a free app you can get called pathbuilder2.

Greetings Everyone. Add me to the list of players that are completely new this version of Pathfinder. Been slowly figuring out how to build my character.

In reply to Duhb Scathy (msg # 171):
Another place to view the archetypes are here: https://2e.aonprd.com/Archetypes.aspx

I have pathbuilder 2e but I don't see archetypes there.