Because every game has one.

Hello!

Hello everyone!
Working on my char sheet :)

Question DM, for animal companions we also roll the HD after the 1st one? I did roll, and I got a 1 & 2, so if we take those numbers, my companion will last until the end of the first combat :)

In reply to Ausias de Vilanova (msg # 3):

You'll just have to be very careful with your companion then? n_n Ok, use average for your pet.

Nah, that's fine. It's part of the fun to play when you roll badly. I just wanted to complain a little :)
And we are plenty of players so I can use him more stealthily to flank instead of tank.

So we got a ranged or not?

I'm the sneaky guy!

‘Alo all...yeah I’m not much tougher than your animal companion.  ;-)

So no melee guy in the party? Then my poor kitty will suffer...

Well we got a rogue, druid, mage?

Friedhelm could be melee.

Not druid, ranger. But I'm archer, so not melee either.
We'll need a melee. If Friedhelm is not melee I might change my build and become one, if the DM agrees.

Bard here actually, Archaeologist archetype.

While I can’t be an exceptional melee I can focus more on that when it comes to combat.

rogue, ranger, and bard.

Hoping we got some sort of cleric lol

The Fitela line has produced generations of fine upstanding gentlemen of the highest caliber. But I suppose I'm a sport at the old fisticuffs if that's needed.

I was planning on taking a few cures, though obviously a Bards healing is far less than a cleric...

But that might be good considering where we are going.

Tempted to get a Goblin Dog but man they are ugly haha! I'm almost set.

So Ausias what did you pick for a animal?

A wolf, it should be ok, but as ranger lvl 4 my companion is lvl 1 (lvl-3) so he'll be a good support, but still not strong enough to be the only melee)

Think I am set!

Might swap out my weapons, trying to find something different other then 2 shortswords :)
This message was last edited by the player at 16:57, Sun 20 Dec 2020.

So what are you playing as Friedhelm?

Brawler...
Going for the giant of a man nobleman thing
Snakebite Striker for simplicity's sake. Currently sacrificing a bit of AC for style but otherwise playing it pretty straight.

Unsure how married I want to be to the proper gentleman thing. Main things I'm tempted to break character for would be ranged weapons and armor. Parade armor I think isn't unreasonable for a gentleman not-at-war to carry.

Do we know this is a potentially violent job?
I he's expecting violence I could give him a short sword, heavy shield and heavy crossbow as sensible protection even though he can punch for more damage than the shield is capable of doing.

Not sure of this mission but it leads up to Ravenloft.

We're low on magic.

Yup.

At the moment I’m doubling as both wizard and cleric of the group.  I tossed a question by way of our Boss about crafting and costs to perhaps mitigate some cure potions or scrolls as well as any wondrous items to help.

Or a NPC Wizard and cleric haha

Hello

Hello! this has been quite slow during Xmas. Is still everyone in?

Still here myself.

Dunno, DM hasn't been on in 3 weeks.

Yeah, doesn't look good...

They haven't been on in any of the games they run since right before Christmas.  If they are a student, or a teacher with classes starting now it might be sometime later this week or next before they jump in fully.

Around the holidays it can get pretty tough plus some are on vacation and with Covid well...

Been 24 days, not looking good :(

Hopefully the DM is ok.

I want to think that he just dropped the RPoL site. It's been a month, so I'm leaving the game as well. See you around!

Hi.

I'm sorry for dropping off the face of the Earth with no heads up. I wasn't really ok, but I'm better now, and the more we achieve the better I can feel. I've got every intention of getting the ball rolling here. Is anybody here still wanting to do this?

Sure!

Ok, I'm going to advertise for reinforcements. We need like one or two?

Not sure who got back to you yet but yeah maybe 2 or 3?

I'm game.

Need to re-read my notes and maybe adjust class and whatnot since I thought I remember us being critically short on healing outside the idea of a bard taking a few CLW's.

Yeah I think I remember it.

Right now I'm set up for a Male Goblin Unchanged Rogue 4.

So we got a bard, a rogue and....?

I’m thinking I might shift over to Inquisitor so that we get more healing options.  It’ll let me keep much of the previous idea I had and give us a better chance at surviving.

I'm also willing to change classes as well.

Hey cool cats,

Looks like I'll be coming on as your local warpriest. Looking forward to creating with you :)

Ok, new people in!

I'll give you all one day to finish your character sheets and I'll open the IC thread then.

I'm the goblin rogue that'll cause a lot of trouble.

Not on purpose. Well maybe a little....

We also have our gentleman, giant (human just big).

Hi Everyone!
Just your friendly (well, sort of), neighborhood halfling princess.

Hello all!

Stelian is a cleric of Pharasma with a particular dislike for Undead things. He was being "trained" to hunt Undead but got over zealous and jumped into the action before he was finished cooking.

He means well and brings the healing so hopefully Stelian might relieve some of the healing pressure from our beloved Bard.

=)

Warpriest
Barbarian
Cleric
Arcanist
Brawler
and Rogue

Cool.

So your a princess -and- a barbarian?

Otherwise known as a Barcess, in polite circles at least.

XD

*chuckles*

Originally we were a group of a Ranger, Brawler, Rogue and Bard.  Choosing to be a bard was a half-measure to give us a little bit of arcane and a little bit of healing at the same time.

Now that we have a Cleric and Warpriest we've got the healing down much better.  Add in the Brawler and Barbarian to handle fighting on different levels (also the Warpriest and Cleric).
Valus has the troublemaking down pat as our rogue.  That then allowed me to shift from Bard to Arcanist so we'd have some serious arcane strength as well rather than a half-measure.

Um is this right?

If you just want a deity who HATES undead, then  Pelor is the big name in Greyhawk, the Flan Deity of the Sun. "Pelor is wrathful against the forces of evil, and is especially opposed to the undead. However, Pelor urges his followers to remember that excessive attention to things of evil can blind one to the truly important things: compassion and goodness. These are what must be emphasized above all."

If you want a death deity who doesn't like undead, there's not much Chronepsis fits the bill but he's mostly a Dragon deity, not usually worshiped by humans.

Full disclosure Friedhelm though not overly religious admires Mayaheine the most. Mayaheine was a paladin of Pelor who ascended to demigoddess. But as I mentioned Pelor is possibly the most popular deity in all the Flanaess so he comes up often.

I don't think Phasma minds undead but I could be wrong on that aspect.

But yes, Pelor is a good god vs undead. Healer. Sun god. Possibly Saerenrae would work.

Saerenrae is good but isn't one of the Greyhawk deities where we'll be starting out at, of which they have plenty to choose from.  Pelor is a good one like Friedhelm mentioned.  Wee Jas works only if the whole undead angle is nuanced with your cleric.  For Wee Jas making undead is okay as long as they are sourced lawfully and aren't raised against their will. :)

In reply to Valus (msg # 52):

No Pharasma *hates* undead there is a lore about urgathoa escaping her boneyard to become the 1st undead and how that grinds Pharasma's gears.

In reply to Friedhelm Fitela (msg # 51):

I am kindda sad, the main draw of Pathfinder is the Lore. I love their deities, but I will adopt. I'll finish the character first and then figure out the deity situation.

Thanks for the heads up gang!

Greyhawk actually has fairly deep lore if people are interested in diving into it mostly centered around the Greyhawk war ironically named after the neutral state which happened to be about at the center of the crescent shaped conflict. There's not everything under the sun like Forgotten Realms, or the Spell Punk thoughts about a world full of magic.

For instance it took me several read through to get Friedhelm's geopolitical position down though I did pick Sterich for being a politically unstable region with many petty nobles who may or may not actually be nobles.

Pathfinder has a great bit of lore and deities, I agree.

Still we're going to be starting out Greyhawk and like Friedhelm's mentioned it has some really great lore as well that is often overlooked.  Mind of course while we are starting out Greyhawk at some point in time we'll be drawn into Ravenloft...or so went the initial advert for this game.

Erm well the thing is Ravensloft is designed as an encapsulated setting, because baseline D&D is all power fantasy and big damned heroes which doesn't translate well to creating horror.

That said while many D&D setting crossover canonically with Ravensloft Greyhawk's intertwining is by far the greatest.

The end of 2e was a Greyhawk-Ravenloft-Planescape game setting called "Die Vecna Die!" which ended 2e and gave a reason why 3e everything changed, like say Vecna suddenly appearing in the Deities section of the Player's Handbook, when he wasn't a deity before. But I'm pretty sure the god of secrets would take my hand and eye if I gave away too many of his.

I just want to know how a game I remember coming out while I was in high-school is now old enough buy drinks in the US.

I've never play Ravenloft so any hints about it please no. I want to be fully surprised :)

In the past I've tried to run Horror games. Its harder then most realize!

I've seen Vecna come to life...in Critical Role. Pretty epic IMO.

Ok! Done! I look forward to playing with you all.

Apologies if slow.  Work kicked up a storm that'll keep me from concentrating on this for a day or two.

Whats a odd weapon for a two-weapon fighting rogue? I might actually go range since I got a nice dex....

In reply to Valus (msg # 62):

Quarterstaff.
Battlepoi
Bohemian Ear Spoon

The last one may not exist.

Quarterstaff could be interesting for a rogue. Can you sneak attack with a battle poi?

I pondered just using Dogslicers but rogues aren't proficent lol.

There is no reason you shouldn't

So not sure your long term feat plans are but if you do spend the needed feat on exotic weapon proficiency (battle poi) you count as having TWF for attacks with the poi which can fake TWF. Which is fine up to at least 8th level for a pure rogue when you'd first be able to qualify for improved TWF.

There's a goblin feat called "Burn! Burn! Burn!" that works with battle poi and is reasonably impressive for dual wielding small characters. Adds 1d4 fire damage so 1d3+1d4 for small battle poi.

So let it be known, that I've never played a caster before in my near decade of playing, so don't mind me as a try to find a Greyhawk Deity for a Strix...

Went with Sawtooth Sabres. probably should have gone all ranged but oh well!

Living dangerously!

I don't think Greyhawk has a Strix diety nor do they exist till now.

Quetzalcoatl diety? Lawful Neutral?

I think I'm the only non-noble. Course I'm a gobo!

Do halflings have princesses? Now they do!
This message was last edited by the player at 20:18, Wed 23 June 2021.

I figured halflings probably don't organize themselves into as byzantine heirarchy, like they'd probably stop at something close to a city, and made their rulers "kings" because they weren't beholden to anyone above them.

So, in practice they are closer to maquis or dukes in actual rank, but they get away with king/queen/prince/princess because the humans basically say "that's cute"

Honestly I don't think halflings even have cities-they got shires. Or caravans. Just hard for me to picture a 'princess halfling' but eh. Its a game :) Def is different.

Can't really compaire humans to halflings. That's like comparing a cat to a human.

I should look it up out curiosity.

Sorry for the delay from the migraines...I think this cluster of them is done.  Hopefully.

I'll try and get a post up tonight/tomorrow so no one is waiting on my introduction to move things forward.

In reply to Trevor Kheer (msg # 72):

Migraines are the worst. Sorry to hear it.

I'll be dropping one tonight too, but you take care of you :)

In reply to Trevor Kheer (msg # 72):

Don't worry, the group seems to be slowly coming together and we are also waiting on Stelian.

Hey folks,

As a note, wanted to point out that Strix are prejudiced towards humans due to history. I did want to remain true to character, but I'm also making sure that it doesn't come at the detriment of anyone else's fun or comfort. If you feel as though It's too much, please let me know and I can tone it down or omit it all together. I won't use their actions as an excuse to be an ass of a player :)

What is a Strix?

XD

Folk, I found this race on accident. I never played anything with wings, so it sounded dope.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/races...mmon-races/arg-strix

https://2e.aonprd.com/Images/Ancestries/Strix02.png

That's a strix example and what Keen is. I think Valus running away is what humans should do lol :) Course I'm small and can be easily carried off by the mean strix.

Course being a goblin everyone is out to get me. And Valus is a thief so....

Is the Strix flanking?

Sneak Attack on the half-orc! :)

I tend to be the kind of player that absolutely rolls with whatever. So don't threaten me with a good time XD

I'm not really seeing a reason at yve moment for my character to intervene. I sm paying attention though to this game.

Update tomorrow, pinkie promise

Combo busy work week and first cold in a long time. Hope to post tonight w/ keyboard.

Quick question, been using stealth and got high rolls (over 30) so how did anyone noticed it was me? Also, I don't believe anyone noticed me moving about and getting under the table but I did make it noticable but not near the table. I don't believe Friedhelm would even know what/if I was doing if anyone at all. So thinking the DM would post and whatnot but with a high stealth....

Even if I roll the lowers I can get is a 23 stealth.
This message was last edited by the player at 15:10, Sat 03 July 2021.

You walked into a fairly empty lit bar in broad daylight stealth check automatically fail when observed. Friedhelm is then warned about pickpockets immediately before you do the bump on the person he deems most likely to be an archeologist thus able to help him find money.
So yes no rolls are needed to have seen that part though he simply suspects rather than saw you take anything. Mostly because of her reaction.
Given you've been sticking to crowds and sneaking through chairs your movement would be impaired so you should be moving at half speed and then half speed for stealth which is quarter speed, a staggering 5' movement which must begin and end in cover.
Hence saw you kept spotting you infrequently lost track of you over that way but he's willing to gamble someone else's money on being able to stop you from leaving in hopes of proving you stole something before doing something about it.

*shakes his head in utter frustration*

I think waiting on the DM post is a good call instead of arguing back and forth. I want everyone to have fun not have everyone blame the goblin.

Course thats waht I get from playing one. Oh the joy....

Solid points!

But now, are you roleplaying or rollplaying? Because if you're going to bring up what I would call most excellent points - ones that I would say lean in your favor - you probably should drop a perception roll yourself, considering your argument leans towards rollplaying with stats as opposed to roleplaying.

Because it is kind of bad form to simply ignore Valus' rolls and presume Friedhelm will actually be able to spot them, just because.

Fried. It is bad form to ignore the other characters agency. You should await for me to adjudicate the results of Valus post. If you really needed it for you to post, that is what "waiting for" thread is for. No Godmodding will be tolerated.

In the future, remember, you control your character, I control the world. If you want to affect the world, roll or use a spell, or a special ability and I'll adjudicate. Don't assume the results if your rolls, let alone the other player's rolls. Specially not rolls that have beeb adjudicated already.

Please edit you post and don't do it again.

(Oh and if you are going to rules lawyer, at least do it to argue in the party's favor not against a fellow player)

So the dispute is whether or not Friedhelm could observe Valus. My contention is there were 3 points thus far when Valus was not and could not be stealthed.

1) When he walked in the front door of the bar.
Obvious action (door opening)
No cover.
Friedhelm would have thought a goblin odd but not note worthy
2) When he bumped into the gnome.
Steal takes a standard action
Reaching a table as tall as you are plus your arm's reach to get to someone your height's belt means you're not under the table. Since she was seated closest he couldn't be behind the table. There was no cover.
Beginning or ending the turn close enough to take the standard action breaks stealth. So unless there's some mechanical reason that it wasn't it was broken.
Friedhelm is looking for people with information about the nearby ancient buried wizard. The gnome is the most interesting person for this goal. He was also just warned about pickpockets.
3) When he's sitting next to the door.
No cover
Attention attracting action nearby.

There are three facts the point to Valus being a thief.
1) He's a goblin
2) The missing coin purse of the woman he was seen standing next to.
3) He keeps disappearing (using stealth)

Not claiming Friedhelm knows exactly where Valus is, but he aught to be able to indicate the general direction he went from the door where he was last not stealth. Not sure the half-orc has any reason to believe him.

The main point of contention seems to be observing Valus next to the gnome scholar moments before she can't find her purse. Apparently we're fairly close to that table (surprising to me) but given that how did Valus have cover for that moment?

Ok three points:

1) Stealth isn't just about being unseen, it is also about not being noticed. The stealth im this case is about blending in the crowd and not standing out.
2) Your character's passive perception is relatively low, unless you were explicitly looking for Valus in the crowd, he should have passed unnoticed by you

3) This is not PVP, this is you bringing a fellow player down. Would you rather be right? Or would you rather get along?

1) Disguise and bluff seem more appropriate in those situations. Also see the rules for hiding behind soft cover under stealth.

2) Friedhelm was looking for someone with info on Castle Greyhawk so ancient buried wizard treasure. Is there anyone in the bar more likely to have information about this then the gnome scholar? Lady Yesgrace warned him to watch out for pickpockets. So yes right at that theft while thinking about thefts.

3) So does the not PvP apply to other players? Because Valus causing a scene stealing blocked planned action and caused danger for my character. Keen provoked a half-orc and then mistook my character for the best dressed bouncer in the world.

Counter points:
Blaming the not currently visible goblin doesn't mean the goblin is caught anymore than Keen's stunt means Friedhelm lost a fight.

If you want to retcon go back to before Keen acted and change it so the tables are far apart. For the scenario where given all the reasons Friedhelm should notice Valus to go unnoticed you can at least put some distance between. At which point Keen's action isn't possible. For that to happen at the next table over to someone he wants to talk to when that possibly happening was and practically spelled out for him creates an absurd situation for Friedhelm not to notice. At least give me like a sizeable gap and people between them if you want me to go with noticing despite focus and lack of cover

Fine, if that is the (mole)hill you want to die on, fine. You have convinced me, you can roll perception to see if you notice Valus. And you bring good points of this being a harder case, so I'll penalize Valus roll on the opposed check. So... beat 27, if you roll 28 or more, you noticed Valus.

Just want to add for the record that Fried wouldn't know if Keen thinks are a bouncer unless they have detect thoughts.

Stellan, your post wasn't presumptive (to me) but thanks for asking :)

And did your character's change in speech reflect a sobering up?

In reply to Keen Eid (msg # 93):

Nope, still a drunk little monkey.

XD

I'm so excited about this perception roll.

Because I really would laugh if it's something like a fat nat 20.

Ok, that was unfortunate. Let's move on. Remember, be nice to each other.

*thumbs up*

Aboslutely, boss.

In other news, had to ship off my computer for repairs, so will try to post from phone till Tues. Sorry for delays and lackluster posts.

'Ello!

In reply to Viktoria Zeravina (msg # 99):

Hello!

The question you should be asking uourdelves is if I resemble EDI or Caprica 6. 0-:)<

EDI or Caprica?

1) After reading the OOC, Fried came off as kind of a douche nozzle. I get the "action economy" side of things, but it seemed like he was about using the rules to justify not having to play a particular response instead of just roll (literally) with it.

I am an Arcanist at the DM's suggestion from another game.

2) Valus, yes. EDI or Caprica Six. My face claim, Tricia Helfer, did the voice acting for EDI in Mass Effect 2 & 3 as well as played the role of Cylon Caprica Six in Battlestar Galactica. My jest was, who is my personality going to be closest to, EDI or Six?

:D

1) I don't really want to talk about past events. He did has good reasons for what he suggested but the way he phrased it came off as a complete attack towards me without any reason at all other then he didn't agree with it when he had no clue what I was doing. I let the DM handle it. So let is not talk about it for bring it up will cause undo hardships. I want to have fun and roleplay. Not rollplay. I view it as 'its not combat, doesn't effect you, ect' It seems he had it out for me without any reason. Its the past, leave it there and have a blast with current events :)

2) I never played Mass Effect. I'm big into Wheel of Time, roleplaying games like Dragon Age, Diablo, ect

Hi Viktoria! Welcome!

I'm hopefully getting my comp back today, so expect to drop a post between tonight and tomorrow.

...And I didn't even get a look of scorn. :/

I'm a goblin.

Everyone gets a look of scorn when they look at me. I'm used to it :)
This message was last edited by the player at 17:15, Sun 11 July 2021.

Yes. Buuuuuuut, you inflicted that punishment on yourself by intentionally chosing to play a goblin. So that doesn't count!

I however, am a tall, lean, hot mess blonde in a red dress! And right now I am so awfully amused (seriously) at having been ignored and walked around. Now the obkect is to see how long I can go before somebody realizes I am there and is like, "Who are you and when did you get here?"

LoL.

:D

Really I don't care if people dislike the goblin long as everyone is having fun and no one takes it personally. Its something the goblin has to work around. Never know he could be the best like person in the group or the worst.

BTW I'm standing near the door, haven't walked into the room yet. Curious probably.

Also: You can post Waiting On the DM to respond to your post btw. It was probably missed.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:51, Sun 11 July 2021.

Its all good, Gobby. I dont know nearly enough about your character to like or dislike him. I'm in the ALWAYS DM camp, so getting butthurt about somebody's choice of character, especially so early in my tenure, is not on the agenda. That would be ansurd of me. :)

Unless...

Unless...

Unless....... You are the one Edgelord to rule them all! The albino dark elf slave assassin Feynor who "Says nothing remaining completely silent and staring at you with his doll like eyes."

https://youtu.be/1q_Iw82I9-o
This message was last edited by the player at 00:24, Mon 12 July 2021.

This was EXACTLY the story I was thinking of when you was reading that, in the crit crab voice, of course.

Yesgrace was a little weirded out by previous events, and has decided not to get involved with the crazyness about the bar.

Never heard of crit crab till now, so thanks for the share!

And I also didn't realize the deep dopeness that came with the name Lady Yesgrace Stonerabbit. Good stuff.

Not sure if I am being insulted or not so I will leave it be.

A strix, a goblin, a halfling, and 3 humans all walk into a bar...

BAM! The goblin and halfling stood there because the others...walked into a bar.

In reply to Valus (msg # 113):

Lol. That's a good one.

And I'm almost sure that Vik's just making fun, not you in particular.

Unless my point of view is sadly dictating the experience of another without considering their own feelings and/or letting them speak for themself. In which case I apologize.

And I'm not being sarcastic. I do strive to be a better human :)

You didn't do anything wrong Keen.

Are you an absolutely ridiculous Edgelord that was so awful you got made into a video on youtube? If not then I wasn't talking about you. :P

*rolls his eyes*

Real talk.

How did I magically bump into you when I followed at least one other in and made a point to note you and that you were being spoken to?

If you want to indicate that you bump into me and blame me for it, by all means. However, please do not dictate what my character does and does not do. I know it is just a bump, but it A) Makes no sense given the context of my previous post and B) has you dictating my actions without even asking me if it was alright.

I know you're saying you want everyone to have fun. But you've already gotten into it with another player, you just got through rolling your eyes at me over having to clarify something that amused at least two other players, and now when I look IC, I see that my character, through no fault of her own, magically ran into you and reddened your nose, whereupon you felt the need to write out a less than subtle threat of "if they were alone / outside"

Come on bro.

Post has been updated.
This message was last edited by the player at 20:35, Mon 12 July 2021.

I promise to update tomorrow. I needed to cool down to keep this game going.

In reply to It's a secret (msg # 120):

I respect that.

You know me...I'm keen on coldlampin XD

I'm going to guess you meant to write estranged and auto-correct dun goofed? Or are we hunting the undead?

In reply to Lady Yesgrace (msg # 122):

Don't threaten me with a good time XD

I'll drop a post later this evening.

I mean, I like nuking undead as much as the next person.

And... we lost Valus...

@Secret how does that make you feel?

@Secret: Was it because of me and the PM I sent you?

How does it make you feel, Keen?

I won't lie. I have thoughts on it.

I mean, I feel great.

I'm only asking because I presumed from the way Secret typed it, they were feeling down in the dumps.

That cat has a rep, though. So no tears for this kid.

It sucks but I think we will always have a core group  (around which other characters might come and go). Stay strong everyone.

;)

Ok, let's not dwell on what happened or why it happened. Let's keep going.

I'll move the scene forward if you don't mind.

In reply to Stelian (msg # 129):

Thanks for that, Stel(lar)ian :)

@DM I can dig it.

Hi. Sorry this seemed to peter out, I was enjoying this.

I know a lot of people are having trouble this summer or are busy, just wanted to say hi to everyone, and that I hope things go better allround.

I feel the same, Lady. Things are good out my way, and hope they are for you too :)

Hello.

Sorry I stopped posting. My problem wasn't so much summer itself, but rather it ending too soon.

Who's still around?

I feel that, and understand.

This guy is :)

Still monitoring.