Fine by me. Apologies again for the mega delay.

Predictably, Val will be grounded big time, and will still find a way to hang out.

RL happens, Val. Doesn’t mean I won’t pester you in PMs. :D

How many of Vamp's gang/band made it back to their "home"?

About half.  They are certain one died, they saw him take a bullet during the melee.  No word on the others.  I don't think we settled on how many there were, but let's call it somewhere in the 5-6 range.  That work?

That works. Thank you.

Folks, going to award 10 IP for Part 1 and another 10 for Part 2.  You can raise a skill by spending current level x 10 in IP.  For 10 IP you can pick up a new skill.  You may spend points to improve your evolved skill and you may also spend points on "adult" skills.  The Adult Skill Master List is on p. 216.  To learn an adult skill you need to find a teacher.

....I have 10 IP listed on my sheet. Was that from before the..20 listed above? I don't want to accidentally cheat so just checking.

Also...I mean...I know I play Tailgate as somewhat without a clue sometimes but...come on...Nat 1. Sigh. lol

21:18, Today: Tailgate rolled 11 using 1d10+10, rerolling max with rolls of 1.  Belated Get a Clue.

I think I should get Tinman 2 and I'll bank the other 10 IP.

Who teaches me Personal Appearance, a personal stylist? Or is more like cosmetic surgery?

Or does it have too much overlap with Celebrity and Little Angel (they're all about manipulating people) to be worth it?

From my understanding of 2020,
Personal Appearance would be make up, hair and overall grooming,
with a side skill of Wardrobe and Style.

I love the fact that you have skills as broad as "Athletics" or "Psychology" and they have two different skills just to boost attractiveness.

Oh well, it's a better skill than "Vampire Lore" or "Underwater Heavy Weapons"

Cybergen simplified the CP2020 skill list to a shorter set for adults.  Personal Appearance combined Wardrobe & Style with Personal Grooming.  In Val’s case she probably has make up artists and wardrobe people that can teach her that stuff.

The reason to consider learning adult skills is that the Juvie skills everyone gets are at one half value when going up against adults.  So a street fighter would cut his skill ranks in half fighting an adult Martial Artist.

So what you're telling me is, Little Angel and Personal Appearance have the same chances of success against a juve, but against an adult, Little Angel would be at 50% and Personal Appearance at 100%?

(Also, incidentally, there's a very dark and creepy comment to be made here, about teens and adults...)

Little Angel isn’t  about appearance in terms of making yourself look attractive, it’s about appearing harmless, playing up on the “it’s just kids” bias and generally the various deception skills.

Because of that it works 100% against both so long as you are a kid.  Now, using it as a Persuade skill in an adult setting, that’s different.  The 50% thing is when kids are trying to do adult things or things in an adult way, against adults.  There are exceptions, largely when there is no adult analog (Thrash is an example, I think.  There isn’t an adult skill for using a skateboard.)

I always found the appearance/grooming skills in anything CP2020-derived (this, mekton zeta, they even kept them in RED) to be really odd, and the fact that there are two to be even odder.

People can barely figure out what to do with Appearance in the old White Wolf stuff aside from what directly calls for it, so much so that NWoD dropped it.

Yes, I was somewhat surprised they kept it in RED.  I've played and GMed Mekton II and Zeta, CP 2013/2020 and now RED.  Every GM used them differently, some not at all.  In Mekton I basically ignored them as they don't have any official mechanical effect and you get so few skill points in that game.  In CP2020 another GM I know let people roll W&S and beat a difficulty, the excess points were added to ATT.  Another let people add their skill ranks in both to Seduction and other social skill checks.

For me, I mostly use it as gauge to see if NPCs consider someone "hot" or attractive, and gauge their reactions based on that.  It's why I gave an ATT number for the NPCs in the "People in the Neighborhood" thread.

Nikola cannot sense thoughts or emotions, she is not a scanner.

I was just reading the core book because i wanted to use the points.. so I was granted the interpretation scanner skill which could enable me to scan the girl's mind..if I'm reading this right i had an initial score 1 and if i use 20 points i'll get that skill to 2. If you find it fitting that's a skill we can resort to

You are not a scanner, you are a scout.  I put the scout pages in the Game Links for you.

Oh, im sorry you are correct, i got confused .. ill correct the IC, so then if i use the 20 points and get the scout skill to 2 .. i wonder if that would allow me to detach a probe from my body and send it to spy on the girl

IP expenditure is current skill x 10, is it is 10 points to get scout skill to 2.

The trouble is a) that would be pretty obvious in a hall full of kids; b) they stay attached via a "leash" or micro-cable, so there is limited range; c) it takes some time to make one.  However, a good idea overall in terms of thinking about the use of your powers.

I have just started playing in a RED game recently and I used one of those skills (Personal Grooming or Wardrobe & Style) twice now. Once before a meeting to see how 'put together' I was, and another time for trying to blend in when gathering information among the homeless (...'cause...you know...I rolled Bag Lady Chic of course for my character's style lol).

At some point in the future (without slowing up the game) Shin-Ji is going to make good on the promise to teach Vamp the basics of martial arts.

Also, he'll give her that mono katana, with a short speech.

Do you want to do this in a seperate thread so as not to slow the game up?

Tailgate, I am running a RED game here currently with two groups.  If you are interested in joining up I can probably fit you into one of the groups.

Offer stands for anyone here not in that game already.

Shin-ji, if you guys want to do an extended cut-scene about that I am happy to create a side thread for it.  It would be a good place to do any cut-scene type side scenes for people.  It would be good to start the scene with the date and end the scene with the date so that we can track the overall timing.

We started at 9:00 PM, on Friday, June 4, 2027 - two weeks before Summer vacation begins.

That means this is the last week of school before summer, about June 9.

Uh, i don't see the note from Minerva (whatever info her daemon dropped off), unless I'm missing something.