The those two spells, you needn't even go so high to see incredibly far for the most part since African mostly doesn't have nearly so much as Europe in terms of mountains.

In reply to Alpha SG (msg # 59):

I will send you a character name tonight or tomorrow, but put my Architect character down for the Redcap covenant. It makes the most sense, as presumably once he gets his feet under him, the rest of the tribunal may want to contract his services to assist with construction efforts!

In reply to Alpha SG (msg # 75):

Sure, but height is the basically free part. I'll start popping the enchantments into Spell design at some point. But I think you can canonically use magical senses through a Intellego scrying spell. Just Arcane connection to move my senses to a random rock we have flying over yonder.

Should I add a library (possibly Tremere block) covenant? There was a suggestion, just looking for at least one or two more magi.

Just a general question, but one I think could  prove interesting, both down the road, and especially if have a library covenant.
What are people's thoughts on actually naming the Summae and Tractati you buy for with your starting p.v.f? I kinda like it, so we can, IC, discuss a book our character has read, when talking among the Magi.

In reply to Player 6 (msg # 79):

I also prefer naming the books in the library and plan to do it for our covenant.

Hmm... My companion would probably fit well in a library covenant.


I like it a lot. I like having names for them, but I get exhausted trying to name lots of books myself. It's also useful for game rules because it helps to identify if you've already read the quality-10 tractatus someone is offering or if it's different than that quality-10 tractatus you already read.

In reply to Player 6 (msg # 79):

I always like to name my books and add a bit of a flavor text to them to describe what they're about, in case the name doesn't clarify it enough.



I get that feeling. Busted my brain trying to come up with a good name for my Bjornaer, and then I realized I'll lose it and need a new one once I get around to the Secret Name Initiation. ^^"
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In reply to Alpha SG (msg # 81):

That's the beauty, each person that brings a book with him, has to name it. That way, it's not your burden to come up with all those names.

Pending internal discussion the Boarder Covenant may be set up at or along the path of the modern Suez Canal although I think the Brontion Canal has a nice ring to it...

It changed the views of some of the folk already assigned to the covenant. So I figured it might affect other people's decision making.

PeTe 3 +1 Touch with +8 size mags to Ind...  Suez canal with a tollgate... would that count as interfering with mundanes?

Sure... Hardly necessary to do it in one casting... It is a project worthy of a season of work or a season inventing a magic shovel.

Weather it is interference is a Tribunal ruling. But generally no. Tolls are a listed income source in covenants. At most we would have to play a little shell game where we have a pet noble. I would hardly think it's unusual to use magic to improve income sources (there is a whole section on it)

There is no other route it would almost purely bring trade rather than reroute it from other Tribunals (silk road is already collapsed, but Levant might complain still) so it would not bring ruin, at least not enough ruin that anyone would be willing to use one of their 3 motions at grand tribunal on it.

That being said they could say the same thing if we built along one of the land routes and raised prices in Jerusalem. It's just in this case there would be so much additional trade going into Europe that no one would vote against us.

I feel like powerful muslim rulers would want it. Even if you don’t take tolls the placement would be very desirable. Unless it’s an invisible fortress or something, seems like it’s gonna attract a whole lot of unwanted attention. Obviously that can probably be said of at least a few of the covenants we end up with.

Yes, there is a potential for story hooks. It's an issue with any civilized area. No ruler likes a fortification manned by heavily armed soldiers in their back yard. It happens all the time in every other tribunal.

Fortunately it doesn't disrupt trade between the local rulers, Alexandria can trade with Jerusalem with no issue. A third port stocked with luxury good from India and East Africa would be good for everyone. They might bitch about it but it's a wealthy city a hundred or more miles across desert, they know they can't really control it.

The tribunal could be held at different sites each time, just like in the Normandy Tribunal.
With all covenants being recently established this feels like a good option as no covenant will be the old and important covenant.

Yeah, Provencal Tribunal moves the Tribunal meeting around as well. That said, most places are going to be hosting in tents anytime in the near future except, probably an urban covenant (such as the Redcap one) or the “instacastle” one though that’s the least central, far as I know.

I figured that's how it would go. Or maybe a neutral location if we could decide on one. Or the geographically central most one if they are cool.

My Magus would be fine with drawing lots for the order or something equally random. It's not worth the time of magi to argue over where a meeting is going to be held.

If we can arrange travel I'm happy to Conjure Mystic Towers all around, perhaps even on credit. My version might have to be slightly lower level, Finesse roll rather than Elaborate design mags.

I still need to see what's going on with my covenant and character, so it's hard to make decisions.

Seems like players 2, 5, 14 and 15 still have to make up their mind.
I guess that makes room for another covenant if 2 or more of them go for the same theme.

I don't really see the benefit to rotating tribunal to different covenants.  I think it makes more sense to invest in a well-defended place that's remote to mundane lords, where tribunal resources can be kept, and a good setup for copying, big library, etc., and a central location that everyone can travel to.

One thing most tribunals don't do that I think we could is to have centralized shared resources that make things easier for member covenants.  Such as the library, a center for training grogs in various roles, vis exchange, etc.

Some of those could be considered redcap functions but I think it's better to have it under tribunal control rather than the redcaps.

The Maghreb Center of Hermetic Excellence.

I’m sure we could work something out where everyone contributes a certain amount of work every tribunal period. That would make sure we get some books, vis and other things fairly quick. It’s not like we’ve been hoarding for centuries like the other tribunals.

This sounds like the sort of thing the Tremere would support and build a covenant for...

In reply to Player 15 (msg # 96):

I don't know that having a centralized library is the best idea. I'd be willing to support a rule that any Maghreb magus in good standing has permission to study at another covenant for a season a year. Longer terms can be negotiated.

I suggest looking at the Laws of Hospitality and the Peregrinatores part (pg. 20) of Guardians of the Forest. The Rhine tribunal has a similar system in place.

In reply to Player 9 (msg # 98):


The Chapter House covenant is already planning to create high quality guest labs and quarters - you know, for when the rest of you want to shake the sand off your shoes, and spend a little time in civilization.  All for a small consideration, of course, friends and family rates apply.

FMB