In reply to Reverend Throckett (msg # 43):

Bit of banter is always good in ooc and out, asha wouldn't be so polite ic

I voted for Vehme as being the most practical option.  It works well for everyone in some regard.  Cerberus was a secondary choice.

Vehme also works to bridge our Camerilla and Anarch sides, potentially getting us in good, or at least needed, with both.
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In reply to Rook (msg # 46):

apologies, i misread it then :), looks like vehme is indeed the type if Nef is also voting for it?

Yeah never hurts to leave one bridge unburned haha
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I also agree. Throckett would be honored to perform those duties.

In reply to Asha (msg # 47):

No problem.  I don't always communicate my intent clearly enough.

In reply to Reverend Throckett (msg # 48):

*L*  You do realize that those duties will involve alot of unpleasant actions, likely to include ashing some licks, and killing some kind right?

Oops.  Sorry.  That was my inner Sabbat.  ;)

In reply to Rook (msg # 50):

Gonna have to keep an eye on you rook if you keep slipping into sabbat terminology IC  ;)

I'm certain that we can come to a compromise where violence isn't needed. But I would never deny the kindred the ability to defend themselves should lick come to bite.

In reply to Asha (msg # 51):

*LOL*. Ain't wrong if it's right.

No ivory tower there.  Well, unless you talk to the correct Tzimice.
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Alrighty, what should our chronicle tenets be?

I'm going to propose a few potential options.

• Know Yourself.
• Be your own, never submit.
• Reflections dichotomy.

Well if we are tossing out options, how about these?

• Control the beast.
• Never kill the innocent.
• Duty before personal gain.

I would put forth:

No needless cruelty - do not maim or harm kine or kindred for pleasure

Duty above ambition - no sect is above the masquerade, punish all breakers equally regardless of sect allegiamces

Control the beast - we should set an example for the other kindred. If we cannot control ourselves how can we expect others1 to do the same.

My options.

• Respect Oneself.
• Control your Lust. ( Lust can take any form such as the lust for Sexuality, Money, or Power
• A secret is just that, a Secret.  So keep them.

Okay, so the theme of self-control appears to be prevalent, as well as business before pleasure.

I can agree with that ST.

• Self Control.
• Business before Pleasure.

Both seem to be resounding in our ideas.

Think the 3rd should also be reasonbly neutral considering we are all playing very different personalities.

Thought you liked a little Conflict!!!

Let’s not all be so neutral on everything

Asha does however if I said the last tenet should be never bow to any Prince, baron or ruler, the camarilla characters might find this socially impossible to adhere to. Likewise if your tenet was obey the hierarchy of the camarilla, Asha would not be able to abide by it haha

There will be bickering and disagreements aplenty I should imagine once play begins ;)

What about no violence between coterie members? Might keep the arguments verbal and help curb any temptation to strike in anger haha

Not that i would ever want it to get to that point does that mean we dont want the option for two members to "fight it out"? If you guys are fine with that i certainly am.

I see your point but feel there might be a danger in letting  kindred fight to resolve disputes as it could be an open door to the beast, especially if the fight is meant to resolve arguments etc

What about "no unnecessary cruelty"? I think it was brought up before

Yeah no unnecessary cruelty is a good one, No problems from Asha there.

We will also need to determine when this Coterie was created?